Wednesday, August 10, 2005

“Are We Worried”?

I am hearing the bleeding in my ears of the terrible woes that have befallen us. I am thankful that I also hear the voice of my deliver. He is replete with power and the author of
"The Dorean Group." If you will study his ways you would understand that He wins every war but test the faith of His servants by making the odds impossible. Miracles are normally for those that understand. The battle changed upon my incarceration but not for the worst as you may perceive. It was the time for truth to confront the lie head-on. I have risen to that task. The death of Dorean as you knew it must take place in the current spiritual rope-a-dope. I am locked away and prohibited from making the transition smooth but not prevented from the knowledge to finish the race. The reigns will again be in my hands someday soon and you will see your worry and concern was for naught. To be continued…


imbigo said...

We who understand "HIM" have got your back Kurt. I tried to come and see last Sat. but the line was way too long,and I missed the first wave. Will try again on the 18th "If your still there". THIS FAMILY has you and Scott in their prayers DAILY.



Starfish Prime said...


Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?

Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005

The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.

Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.

Nuclear Terror Drill to Go Live? Let's Hope Not

Mother Media | August 10, 2005
by R. Leland Lehrman

August 10, 2005 12:56PM Santa Fe, New Mexico (Mother Media) - On June 29th, United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) posted news of a nuclear terrorism drill on its website:: "Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it." It went on to say that "Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation." As Alex Jones of and others have pointed out, terror "drills" are now known to be the favorite "cover story" for New World Order terrorist operations, as evidenced by the eerily accurate terrorism drills happening on both 9/11 and 7/7.

Recently, former CIA/DIA analyst Philip Giraldi has informed us that "Vice-President Cheney has tasked STRATCOM with "drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11- type terrorist attack on the United States" and that "the plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons." Investigators and counter-intelligence specialists are concerned that this upcoming August nuclear terror scenario might go live to create the pretext for tactical nuclear war against Iran.

Mother Media contacted NORTHCOM Public Affairs this morning and learned that the Fort Monroe drill may begin tomorrow, 8/11. Mother Media hopes that mass awareness of New World Order methods could prevent the attacks, whether tomorrow, next week or next year.

In the course of the conversation with NORTHCOM Public Affairs, Mother Media also learned that CNN recently launched their military operations news special "Situation Room" from inside the NORTHCOM situation room in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Wolf Blitzer is the show's famously hawkish and pro-Israel host. Imagine that - a new CNN "Situation Room" military focus news program debuts in NORTHCOM headquarters days prior to a nuclear terror drill. They're not even bothering to pretend there's separation between the press and the government anymore. CNN here makes it obvious that they are now the New World Order's propaganda mouthpiece. At the war crimes trials, let's not forget it.

Adding to the drama, the four-star commander of the Army's Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at the Fort Monroe base where the nuclear terror drill is to occur, Kevin P. Byrnes was just relieved of his command amidst allegations of sexual misconduct. Veteran investigator Greg Szymanski has uncovered another plausible motive: "Sources close to the military who remain anonymous said Byrnes was part of a U.S. military faction discontented with the Bush administration war policies in Iraq and the potential for a nuclear disaster in Iran.

In an effort to stop the Bush administration in its tracks, sources say Byrnes was about to lead a coup against the hawks in the military and executive branch determined to lead America into a global conflict, leading to devastating ramifications for the country, as well as financial and social chaos.

Rumors inside the military say that a growing faction of discontented high-ranking officers are attempting internally to try and stop the Bush administration’s imminent plans for war with Iran in an effort to avert global war.

Although the exact number of high-ranking military involved is undetermined, sources have disclosed it appears to be evenly split between pro Bush and anti Bush factions.

Even though speculation abounds about an attempted coup relating to the Byrnes firing, no one would question the strange rumblings of war against Iran and warnings of terrorist threats on the homeland that are beginning to circulate from administration officials and media talking heads almost on a daily basis.

Further, ominous reports are even coming from the Washington Post this week that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the United States, plans justifying and making necessary preparations for martial law in case of a homeland terrorist attack."

If you look at NORTHCOM's website, you will find a discussion of the situations under which Posse Comitatus, the restriction against military policing in America, can legally be suspended. One of those conditions is an attack by a nuclear or other weapon of mass destruction. Another is "insurrection."

Diabolically standing over all of these scenarios is Global Cleanse 2000 or just Global 2000, a population control methodology developed by the New World Order which includes triggered natural disasters, wars and diseases designed to reduce the world population by two thirds. Rene Welch, who had access to the Global Cleanse 2000 database in the late eighties, recently appeared on Mother Media's radio program to discuss her findings.

In response to this author's article, Israel, Iran and a Nuclear False Flag Attack, reports have been flowing into Mother Media's office confirming and buttressing this story. One former Air Force member writes that all military leaves have been cancelled after September 7th and that Homeland Security is beefing up security at local Draft Board Offices. Writing as TeaParty2Come, this source paints an ominous picture:

"About 3 weeks ago I was surfing some of the sites I enjoy posting on, when someone posted in all caps that they had just heard from an officer friend in the military that all leaves had been cancelled for the month of September. Obviously aware of the false flags our government is famous for, this person sounded desperate, asking for help in confirming or denying this "rumor" from anyone who had connections in the military.

I happened to ask a co-worker friend of mine whose son in-law is in the Army (82nd) about checking out the "rumor". Well guess what, they've had to move up their leave to this coming week to come home because his unit has to be back by September 7th where upon all leaves are cancelled! They have seen a steady build up of heavy materials just sitting in storage facilities. He also commented that they were rushed through a training course on new weapons systems they just rolled out. He thought this very odd and a first.

This sent shivers all through me.

Not to push any panic buttons I spoke with a dear woman with whom I work whose son is in the Army in an artillery unit. She is a former Captain, her husband is a former Colonel and Vietnam vet and successful attorney here in our area who also happens to be dying from the effects of Agent Orange. Lo and behold their son was told all leaves are cancelled for September and in December they may get leave, but can travel no further than 17 kilometers from their base.

My niece is married to a young man in the Army stationed on the East Coast he is also 82nd, his leave has also been cancelled. Their first baby is due in December.

...I'm not prone to fits of paranoia but I have to tell you, I have begun stocking water and canned goods. I am ex Air Force, I was on three ring standby most of my enlistment and was in a constant training mode. I know how this works and it doesn't sound good.

The draft board offices are in place with staff waiting for the word to go. I read an article from a guy who works in one of those offices, he said Homeland Security came in there early last month and put up bullet proof glass on the windows and iron bars, they installed blast proof glass on the doors, and removed the mail drop box slots on the outside of the building. When he asked what was going on they identified themselves as Homeland Security and said don't worry about the rest and left.

It's coming no doubt about it. Sorry I can't be more positive, but this is what I have heard with my own ears from three independent military member sources in different parts of the country."

A source in New Mexico passed this on to Mother Media a couple weeks ago:

"A friend came by today. His relative is fairly high-level in regional counter-terrorism. My friend says his relative told him they are preparing for the strong possibility that there will be 7 U.S. cities attacked with small, backpack-held nuclear devices by 'al-Qaida types.' It sounds like the propaganda -- the cover stories for PNAC or whomever these bad guys are -- has begun."

The sheer number of warnings and events, subtle hints and overt threats is now too much to ignore. More background and warning signs, especially as regards Israel and Iran can be found in my article at entitled Israel, Iran, Mossad and a Nuclear False Flag Attack. Americans should alert friends and family members and active citizens should inform their neighbors and local authorities. Mother Media has contacted FBI counterintelligence director David Szady, who is in charge of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee spying investigation, with some this information and plans to distribute it widely throughout the local, national and international media. An FBI investigation directed by Szady caught AIPAC using Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin to spy on America's Iran policy and more. Given that AIPAC is committed to war with Iran, we can imagine why they were interested in official American policy on Iran. It is still possible to stop this insanity, but it will require serious citizen initiative. Good Luck, Fellow Citizens, and God Bless You.

dgwondering said...

But will the drivel ever stop?

WillToFight said...

Good post Starfish

All that we talk about on this site might be for "not" if these things we read come to pass?

We are not living in a pretty time my friend.

All the indicators are out there. The ATC drill on 9/11; I have inside info on that. The 7/7 London bombings, just too coincidental to make sense!

Being searched in airports, when the borders are wide open. Yeah, my friend, the American citizen is the target of the game.

All facts point to this. They are preparing us for a great marshall law lockdown.

Natural Disaster: High Active Auroral Research Project. That's the official name for the government/military controlled monster mechanism which is sitting in a remote section of the Alaskan wilderness. Since this top secret project was exposed a few years ago, the government has attempted to propagandize all reports concerning HAARP and cover up the real horrors this ultra-advanced apparatus is capable of. As much as possible, I will attempt to avoid a long, technical and boring explanation of how it all works and get to the nuts and bolts of the matter.

This is what is causing all the hurricanes and the Sounami that happen in Shrilanka this year!

down but not out said...

Why don't all you Art Bell nut jobs go get your own blog

son of a prophet said...

Like I said previously, unpaid mortgages will be the LEAST of anyones problems.

If something BIG goes DOWN, all should stop paying on their mortgs. as all bets will be OFF.


All civil process will be suspended go to martial/militry law.

Maybe the DG is counting on this???

Either way, mortgage payments will cease. As there will be no repercussions from not paying them. Cant very well mail it in if the PO is restricted form aming normal delivery.

Hang in there folks.


Connie6 said...

Who shall be contacted now for quit claiming procedure??

Ed/WSOP said...

looks like connie is the only one in here who is asking anything relevant to this blog.
My God people...why even stick our heads out of our houses in the morning.
Good thing I'm taking all this drivel wih a grain of salt
Conspiracy theorists unite.

Can somebody answer Connie's question?
Where's Farrel????????????

WillToFight said...

Down but not out. It's is all relative!

Ed/wsop obviously does not read very much. Only thing posted here are fact. You must only look at FOX/CNN/MSNBC where you become programed to only what main stream media wants you to hear or see!

You call it drivel if you like!

Connie6 you might not be able to get a quit claim right now! Advise those that you had previously advised of what you need!

truthtooth said...

son of a prophet:

Wow! Talk about nay sayers.

You guys put faith in a criminal that is behaind bars. Then you are spouting off that all of us free people are going to be locked down by martial law?

Are you that lost to expect that everything that happens to you is controlled by another human beings ability or lack of it.

I have never seen so many people that can be manipulated.

Ed/WSOP said...

hey willtokite.....everything posted here is fact huh????
What a screwy world you must live in.
I like my world much better
It's called reality
Have fun up there in conspiracyland

midwesttoo said...

Connie, I heard to get your QCD out of trust, prepare it and send it to the alvarado rd address, it will be signed and returned to you. consider including a self address stamp envelope so it will be returned to the right address in a timely fashion.

Starfish Prime said...


All these stories are printed in the papers for all to read. This is no figment of imagination. Have fun in IGNORANT land...

Did you hear Michael Savage yesteday by chance??? 9/11 Commission wants to re-open a probe into the events that took place...and it's scary what they'll find if this is pursued correctly.

Ed/WSOP said...

hmmmmm....thats funny
My son is a sgt. in the Army.
He's had no such orders

You all have fun now

Gforce said...

starfish----I agree with you that the USA is being set up in many ways and I believe that these people who think that they are in control will be allowed to attempt the next level with their plans. I believe "situations" will be carried out that coincide will the current mass programming media.----However, God is in complete control and satan(the master deceiver) has NEVER won at anything he has ever planned to carry out, nor will he ever win. 2005 was prophecied to be a year of judgement on people and nations. One tsunami and some hurricanes so far----but the year is not over yet. 2006 has been prophecied to be a "glorious" year almost beyond description. Apparently it is going to get worse before it gets better. But it seems that the time of those that would oppress the innocent is finally drawing to an end!!! The next few months will be like "flushing the toilet". The world we see is coinciding with the spiritual world. The financial "inversion" will, I believe, happen within a year. So then, the "bad" news is really "good" news for those who trust in the one true God ... "for all these things must happen and then the end will come." My judgement will be blessing upon blessing because I have already judged myself. Go to center---prophecies--The Wakeup Call---------It may very well give you a glimpse of the soon to happen "events"!!!

pasak said...

does anyone know if Scott is still in Utah?
I live in Utah and I am a dorean client. If I can help in anyway please let me know.


Justice7777777 said...

When will Farrell and Guy be arrested?

Tony Tuba said...

I need an answer from Dr Fred or Farrel on this one. What good does it do to get a quit claim deed? No title company will touch the property to get a refi or even sell the home. What good does it do? If Dorean can somehow overturn the quiet title and get the client out of the Trust then you've got something. However the quit claim will just get you out of the Trust with a screwed up title. Doesn't look like a good move to get a quit claim to me. Am I wrong?

lostatc said...

The quit claim nullifies what was recorded by the trustees.

Tony Tuba said...

Lostatc, if that's true why are there people that still can't get a refi once they have the quit claim? You would be saying that once the quit claim is done, the title Dorean obtained would go back to the original lender. Is that what you are saying?

lostatc said...
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lostatc said...

Why don't you ask the bank why they denied the refinance?

Banks don't seem to have a problem reinstating a loan once the quit claim is filed, but now you are saying they are refusing to refinance once the quit claim is filed.

The only way to find out why they won't refi is to ask them. Get their answer in writing.

Tony Tuba said...

Thanks LostAtC.

lostatc said...

The most obvious reason the banks won't refinance is because they have a problem with the homeowner knowing that banks don't loan their own money, not with the title. By not refinancing, they are staying in honor-- .

My 2 cents only.

WillToFight said...

Ed/wsop said

hey willtokite.....everything posted here is fact huh????

The facts are that they are being reported upon idiot! Critical thought and research will allow the truth to get out!

Ed/wnot you are the type that has help get us in the mess we are in now. You actually TRUST your government!

hmmmmm....thats funny
My son is a sgt. in the Army.
He's had no such orders

Ed/Wnot if you had read the article. It said those in the 82nd division where put in the cancelled leave status.

Good luck to your son. Hope he makes it through these lies and continuous war to support the cauphers of the elite!

WillToFight said...

Fred your talking about two different issues.

The quit claim can be used in either way.

This is the problem with many Dorean client.

They never new what the hell was going on before or during getting involved. Thats' why your here now cring foul.

You had to study this process. I am able to help myself with or without Dorean at this point. I will not discuss specifics and this site full of spooks and idiots that do not know the process or would only try to pull you down.

I will stay in the process until we win.

The Good Fight!

WillToFight said...


When will you be arrested.

WillToFight said...


When your arrested, should we believe immediately after your arrested that you are guilty?

Your answer will tell where your head is!

Connie6 said...

What about the administrative judgements???? When will we be compensated for "the fight" we
have endured?? We are running short of funds.....................

son of a prophet said...


The PTB are attempting to make the world peaceful and good for all.

There is one "small" problem with this scenario however.

The peace will be a false one created by the Deceiver himself.

The bible says that there can be no peace until the Prince of Peace arrives, Yeshua HaMashiach.

Remember the LORDs prayer...."thy Kingdom come, thy will be done..."

The PTB are attempting to turn the earth into a millenial kingdom. This will be a brief peaceful period, but a true millenial kingdom can not be established until Yeshua Himself arrives.

Again, what did He say..."my Kingdom IS NOT of this world; if it were, mine would come fight for me."

Satan is the prince of THIS world and runs it....with Yeshua's permission of course. AND things are going to get much worse because the Deceiver knows that his time grows very short, so he is going after those (without Yeshua's protection) with a vengeance pulling out all the stops.

Events in Israel beginning on Monday, 8-15 will be interesting to follow, as Israel is Gods timeclock as far as prophcey goes.

Peace of Yeshua be with you.

down but not out said...

willtofight said,

Ron Paul & Cynthia Mckenny in 2008!

You loosertarians don't even know who is running in your party.

Ron Paul is now a Republican in Congress.

Yep. That is one solid party.

down but not out said...

son of a prophet.

I see you use the true name of Messiah.

Do you also keep the correct shabbat, and appointed feasts?

son of a prophet said...

Interesting article here ---->

Connect the above as one link.

Peace of Yeshua be with you.

son of a prophet said...


Israel: Preparing for the coming of the Messiah... soon...
[In the light of some interest by Christians regarding a statement I made that there is an effort by some Christians and Jews to find the Ark of the Covenant, I thought I would tell a bit more about what I am hearing from Jewish sources.

A Jewish friend of mine in Johannesburg phoned me to tell me he had attended a most fascinating presentation by a Rabbi's wife.

It was all about The End Times, and was woven around the Jewish numerology (Kabalah I think it is called).

I'm not going to go into all the detail, because as with all prophecy, one can read many things into scriptures if one wants to. But I thought I would mention a few "big things" which are occurring among the Jews these days. I'm no Biblical expert, but I will mention some basic things which might be important.

The talk the lady gave was that not only are The End Times here, but The Messiah's coming is close now.

Now before you think the Rabbi's wife is off her rocker, I must mention that I have some good friends in Israel, and I've been hearing very similar things from them. So it appears to me, there is something stirring very seriously among Jews - probably across the world. So I will mention too, things I have heard directly from my Jewish friends in Israel.

In the Bible there is mention of pointers which will indicate that we are in The End times. The most important pointer is that the Jews will return to Israel. And as you know, Israel was created by less than 700,000 Jews in 1948 in a civil war. There weren't that many Jews there before then. It was the Zionist Movement which brought Jews back to Israel. Even now, Jews are returning to Israel from all across the world. So for 100 years or more, Jews have been returning to Israel - and that is one of the pointers that we are in The End Times.

According to the Rabbi's wife, in the various Jewish scriptures there are other pointers too. Among the pointers my friend remembered from the talk was things like: Children will rebel against their parents - which is something that has also been going on in the world for quite some time.

I must mention the extreme importance of the Messiah to the Jews. The Jews have never accepted anyone as a "Messiah" for over 5,000 years. So the fact that the Jews are now waiting, and believing, in larger numbers, that the Messiah may be here soon is something, the importance of which, cannot be underestimated. We are talking here about an event which is "greater" than that of Jesus - if I may put it that way. I don't want to belittle Christians, but we're talking about somebody which even the Jews will accept as "The Messiah" - and no doubt, Christians will follow suit.

I have been finding it very interesting, in recent months, hearing my Jewish friends talking more and more about the discussions they are having among each other, and with their Rabbis on the subject of the Messiah.

There is one prophecy which was mentioned to me, which ties in to modern politics rather well. Apparently in these scriptures it mentions that Babylon will be reconstituted, and it will survive for 70 years before it is invaded and destroyed. The Jews say that Babylon is, undoubtedly, Iraq. And Iraq gained its independence from Britain in 1932. Iraq was invaded and brought to a fall by the USA in 2003 - which means it was around for 71 years!!!

The Rabbi's wife's presentation went into a lot of detail about 9/11, George Bush, etc, etc and the numerology which ties it all together - but I am not going to bother with that sort of thing here because I've seen these kinds of things too many times with regard to other prophecies.

What is of more importance to me, is the "Big Picture" if you will - the huge things - the mega-trends - which indicate "the time is nigh".

It is the political act of the Israelis being forced to hand over territory to the Arabs, which is creating an incredible surge among the Jews as to whether this is in accordance with God's will. In the Old Testament, God promises Israel to the Jews and expects them to keep every square inch of it. Indeed, God promises the Jews that he will give them land which belongs to other people as well. He gives them much more territory than they have in Israel today. And this is a serious thing especially to the Rabbis because they see themselves as being in the "front line" for God. They answer to nobody except God, and they intend resisting, with their lives, anything which they deem to be against the Will of God.

So now politics is entering into a contest with religion - and religion is an extremely powerful thing - and current events may be strengthening it even more.

Apparently in the Jewish "calendar", they have an "agricultural cycle" which is 7 years long. They plant for 6 years and leave the land fallow for a 7th year. Apparently, in these scriptures, they discuss the arrival of the Messiah as being within one of these cycles.

The Rabbi's wife's theory, using various numerology, etc - 9/11 and the intifada which started in Israel in 2000, coincide with the start of the current 7 year cycle. This cycle ends in 2006/7.

Apparently, these Jewish scriptures lay out a series of prophecies which occur and which tie up to the years of the cycle in which the Messiah arrives. The Messiah can only arrive in the 7th and final year of each cycle (as I understand it). So the Messiah can only arrive in either 2006/7 or, 2013/14, etc.

So the Rabbi's wife's lecture was that in her interpretation, using the Kabalah, etc - that the Messiah could be expected in 2006/7.

There are other pointers too... which I don't know if it is too early. Apparently the sea of Galilee (sp?) will disappear as well. Another prophecy was about "oceanic disasters" (She theorised maybe the tsunami of December 2004?), and so forth. I think we can all agree that the weather is definitely getting strange especially due to global warming - and there are Jews who are taking this too as a serious indication that the clock is ticking, and God is busy changing the face of the planet. There are Jews who see these as indications that the Messiah is near and the battles for the survival of the Jews is close at hand.

The purpose of these massive disasters, according to the Rabbi's wife, is that God wants to unite nations through disaster and suffering.

Their scriptures also say that God will punish those nations who maltreated the Jews. I might add, that these scriptures also say that God will bless those people who bless the Jews.

I did mention in a previous post that there is a movement afoot, among some Christians and Jews to find the Ark of the Covenant. Now this is a most interesting story.

Apparently, the Romans seized a lot of Jewish artifacts 2,000 years ago, and these are now in the Vatican. But, the Jews also built tunnels in and around Jerusalem. Some of these have already been discovered. The Jews apparently built these tunnels as hiding places for their most precious items to keep them from the hands of their various enemies. There are texts which state that the Ark of the Covenant is hidden in one of these tunnels.

The Jewish scriptures state that there are certain artifacts, among them, the Ark of the Covenant, which will be rediscovered prior to the arrival of the Messiah.

There are also a number of conditions which must be fulfilled before the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.

According to my friend, there is a whole industry in Israel now, where people are preparing in 101 different ways for the coming of the Messiah. Apparently people are being trained to carry out ancient rituals which have not been carried out for a very long time, but which will be carried out when the temple is rebuilt. People are even redesigning clothing which used to be worn in ancient times, and which will be worn again when "the New Israel" comes into being, and so forth.

Israel, in its current form is a secular state. However the Jewish scriptures dictate that Israel, in the form in which it is to exist once the Messiah has appeared, will be a religious state. It won't be politicians calling the shots - but the Rabbis dictating how things will be run.

One Israeli friend of mine who is deeply religious has told me more about the Messiah they envisage - and it is pretty much in line with what others have said to me. The Messiah is to be a great leader - a leader who will be able to lead the Jews in battle as they fight for their survival. The Messiah is not going to be like the Pope. The Messiah they envisage will be something quite different altogether, because their existence, as a group is on the line. The whole world is against them, but God has decreed that they will survive. The Messiah is going to be a type of great leader/warrior.

I would like to talk for a minuate about what one might call the "Judeo-Christian Alliance". Although one might class Christianity as a "radical offshoot" of Judaism, and the Jews and Christians have had their differences in the past, it appears to me that in the future, Jews and Christians are to be reconciled and will stand together.

There have been a number of articles from various American conservative publications in recent years which give out the politically incorrect view about the Muslims - and which state that the Koran instructs Muslims to murder all Jews, and to convert Christians at sword-point. I won't go into this, but there is a lot of material out there, which explains that. Thus from the Muslim point of view, Christians and Jews are lumped together as the enemy, with the Jews being Muslim Public Enemy #1, and the Christians being Muslim Public Enemy #2.

A friend of mine who is a devout Christian told me that he read in the Bible (from the Christian viewpoint), that the Jews would "come right in The End Times" - and that Christians and Jews would see eye-to-eye in the end.

Interestingly enough, I see the same sort of viewpoint emanating from Jews. They too are seeing Christians as their allies and friends in the hour of their greatest need.

And herein lies a fascinating concept - that of tiny little Israel as a Super-Power. Israel, with just over 4 million Jews (and about 2 million Arabs I think), is half the size of tiny Holland. Yet... through the Old Testament, and this "offshoot" called Christianity, Israel actually holds a commanding moral position in the world which is much more powerful than the Vatican, or any other religious group. The few million Jews, through their Rabbis, actually hold a tremendous amount of power in their hands. Tiny Israel, is actually a "mighty nation", if it invokes its power over Christianity, and calls Christians to arms.

Many Americans fear the 1 billion Muslims... but the Muslims are small fry compared to the Judeo-Christian alliance. If the Christians want to save Israel - the Christians are a very serious Super-power to be reckoned with - and the Jews hold the lever which could unleash the Christians.

We seem to be entering a phase in the world, where Politics is starting to mingle with religion. The Muslims have their Holy War against the USA and the Western world, and the Muslims want to conquer the whole world and turn everyone, at sword point, into a Muslim - while simultaneously slaughtering every last Jew on the planet.

But, Judaism, and Christianity, might yet also enter the political world.

Whether the Messiah really will arrive within the current cycle, is anybody's guess... but undoubtedly, on a grander scale, one has to admit, that over the last 100+ years, some major changes have occurred in Israel which seem to have scriptural links.

I do find it extremely fascinating that "The Chosen Race" are starting to unite, and to mobilise. They are starting to think that the time of the Messiah is close at hand and there are significant groups of them preparing for it in a serious way. I do think we are witnessing something the likes of which we have never seen in the history of our civilisation. So I will watch the events in Israel with great interest in the next few years to see what happens. And maybe Christians should start taking note of what is happening there, because there definitely seems to be something brewing in that strange little land of the Jews. Jan]

WillToFight said...


What an idiot!!!!!!

Ron Paul & Cynthia Mckenny in 2008!

Down But certainly out! If you don't get it! You don't get it!

I would be sorry if you are apart of this process along side me.

You havn't learned yet that there is only one party right now.

I do not belong to either! I do not agree with either. Both are allowing the destruction of this country and Globe, due to it's imperialist attitude.

Ron Paul & Cynthia Mckenny although of the "so-called" different parties, Just happen to speak the same language.

YOUR AN IDIOT! Please do not respond to me again!!!!!!!

imbigo said...

WOW, I think you people are on the wrong blog, this is not Sunday school, and yea I am a Firm beleiver, but lets stick to the point about "TDG".

GODS SPEED!!! 1+1+1=1

imbigo said...

Can we keep our post to a paragraph or two, about "TDG"

imbigo said...


Dont let these guys frustrate you and make you loose focus. They have no clue, let them watch from the porch. This is a task for BIG DOGS not puppies. LOL

Big "O"

tcob247 said...

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Please, no more copy and paste.
Get your own blogs. We are looking for info on Mortgage Elimination. Especially relating to Dorean, CCR and The leaders.
If we wanted your info we would go to Google and type "wacko"
Thank you

Just want out said...

Does anybody know whats going to happen wih the quick claims?

Starfish Prime said...

Down but not out,

Ron Paul spoke at the most recent LP convention and will again in October in Atlanta, GA. Look up Ron Paul on Wikipedia. He is a Republican and has very close ties to the Libertarian party... I even said he WAS a republican. NEXT!

Starfish Prime said...

p.s. I HAVE started a blog.

Starfish Prime said...

and go fuck yourself tcob! You fuckin robot.

Starfish Prime said...

Down but no out,

Since you will not take the time to do any real research to do yourself some good I did if for you. You don't understand Ron Paul (obviously) and his affiliation with the Libertarian Party.

Ron Paul joined the Libertarian Party as a lifetime member, a status which he appears never to have renounced. Though a Republican Congressman, Paul remains on good terms with the Libertarian Party and has addressed its national convention as recently as 2004.

A Libertarian Party spokesman George Getz said thousand of libertarians across the United States donate money to Ron Paul's campaign funds. Campaign disclosures reveal that 71.4% of contributions to Paul's coffers come from outside his home state of Texas. [1] Unlike many political candidates, Paul receives the overwhelming majority of his campaign contributions (92.5% in 2004), from individuals*. [2]


Starfish Prime said...

Our country.

tcob247 said...

hey continue that shit in your blog asshole
good riddence fruitcake

down but not out said...


I'm the idiot? Learn to spell you're. it is a contraction of you and are. Your is a word that defines possesion.

As far as Ron Paul and the loosertarian party are concerned.

Ron Paul has come to the realization that the third party movement is consistently loosing vote percentage each year, not gaining. He has realized that instead of trying to defeat the Republican party he is affecting change from within, and not giving up. I certainly am not pleased at the direction the party has taken, but trying to have athird party take hold and effect any kind of change will take a very long time. In the past 20 years how many loosertarians have actually been elected to any kind of significant office position? Not many.

Quit wasting your time on the third party and work in the grassroots to effect change in the existing party

kingair said...

Kurt and Scott, we are behind you and praying for you daily. The Lord will deliver you!! We believe in you, because you believe in Him and trust Him for your deliverance.

Malachi's Hope said...

Hello Pasak,

Hope this helps! Give our best to Scott! Let him know we appreciate the sacrifices he is making! Let him know we call him released and are ready to celebrate! ! ! !!

Here is Scotts address and website for more information.

Dale Scott Heineman
C/O Salt Lake County Metro Jail
3415 S. 900 W.
South Salt Lake City, UT. 84119

Malachi's hope

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