Tuesday, November 15, 2005

What Effect

I saw some comment concerning the effects of our success. First off, I want to make it clear I am not one of those Christians who view the US as evil and our banking system as one that will collapse. I believe our success will clean up excessive greed and return a little prosperity back to the people. Ultimately, even if a full blown scandal (doubtful) should appear, we have a spin-happy congress that can minimize quickly. My only goal is to make it right for my clients and then hope we made enough noise to be heard. If they fix the industry quietly why should I be disappointed? Change is a hard thing to accomplish in a tyranny and a victory for certain. Revolution is the fancy of too few and the vast populace lives in the Matrix unaware they are the funding source of a machine that doesn’t exist in their controlled imagination. Principles and reason justify economic implosion but there are many other factors on a global scale to incorporate in an accurate equation. God of course has timing dictates that must be understood. That is an entirely different blog. Let’s not be too grandiose getting our houses back and a little economic freedom should be our expectation. Anything else is a benefit to those who didn’t enter the battle.

8 comments:

WillToFight said...

That has always been understood!

Thanks Kurt

son of a prophet said...

...from URBANSURVIVL.COM




Where's the Contract?

I've been corresponding with a reader who has a common problem - tons of bank card debt and threats to take his family to Court to settle the matter. Being a bright fellow, and quite well versed on contract law, torts, and such, he's planning to argue that

>>>>he (and his family) have no contract with the several credit card companies<<<<<


that was their pound of flesh plus the 20%+ interest. He's planning to argue (in a local court in his county) that there's no contract because under contract law, there must be a signed person's name on the other side. Naturally, we expect the credit card folks to argue that if the credit extended was used, there's an mplied contract. But, says this fellow, if there was, then how is it that credit card companies can get away with unilaterally changing the interest rate. In response to this, he will claim that when the rates were changed without his approval, that was a breach and the contract was invalidated. Then, to make matters more challenging for the banks, he is also planning to demand that they provide evidence that when he paid off one of his cards that the bank involved destroyed the money that was created in his name by the bank.

Judge Roy Bean said...

How many of these nutballs are going to have to be put in jail before people start realizing they're selling snake oil? It's not bad enough to have people constantly lose in court following this nonsense, now the proponents of this nonsense want even more people to suffer.

Dempsy's no smarter than the idiot Swanson with their name games and utterly falacious arguments that the courts have hammered into the ground over and over.

It's a scam people. The fancy words and mythological legalese don't fly in the real world. It's simply something to lure ignorant people into. It feeds the promoter's hyper-inflated egos and their bank accounts.

The movement is nothing more than a collection of self-agrandizing alleged experts with crackpot theories and a huge dose of good-old-fashioned conspiracy mongering aimed at getting people to buy the supposed secret path to wealth and happiness by overcoming their enemies in the financial industry.

Unfortunately, along with their sympathetic minions, they lure otherwise decent people who have been wronged by the crooks into taking these arguments into court and losing every shred of credibility they might have had.

It's a trap, people. A dangerous, insidious and for-profit lure that preys on people who believe legal gibberish in the hopes they'll find an answer to their problems.

The earth is indeed, flat; men have walked on the moon; the IRS is a powerful foe but it is part of the Department of the Treasury and you do have to pay taxes; lawyers aren't British royalty; banks originate loans as opposed to lending you their money.

Eventually, people get prosecuted and sometimes go to jail for scams, even some of those who try to say they were scammed.

If you actually believe in the kind of BS Dempsey, Johnson, Mogel and his ilk keep trying to promote, you deserve whatever the legal system does to you. There is plenty of real-world evidence of their idiocy both on and off the Internet.

And it's really making it hard to defend people who have legitimate claims against the lending industry who get lured into the legal lunacy and think they'll be able to tell the lender to stick it.

Then they wonder why they're being evicted or their car is towed away.

G-FORCE said...

Woe to you rich people, weep aloud for the miseries that are SURELY coming upon you...you have heaped together treasure for the last days...here are the wages you have withheld by FRAUD from the laborers who reaped your fields, crying out for vengeance; and the cries of the harvesters have come to the ears of the Lord...you have fattened your hearts for the day of slaughter...you have condemned and murdered the innocent man while he offers no resistance to you.James 5----....to the wicked, God gives the task of gathering and heaping up(wealth), that he may give to one who pleases God.Ecc2:26--------With every mortgage payment paid, it is eventually more wealth in the hands of the righteous!!

WillToFight said...

Who the hell is Li Bo, anyway.

Yeah I've seen where ole JRB, neodomenes have been taken apart on the Sui Juris site for acting like they know something!

Leave these plants/spys alone folks! We have too much evidence on our side. UCC/H.J.R.192/TILA etc. etc.

Their angry we know the truth. We will no longer be slaves.

Sui Juris/Dorean = the good fight!

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habakkuk said...

Peanut Gallery,
I totally agree. We are not going to convert them and they aint going to convert us....so why do any of us bother. Like i keep saying...lets just wait and see what the results are.

son of a prophet said...

Fighting the System

In response to our reader who was thinking about taking on the big banks and credit card companies on the basis that there is no "contract" because he didn't receive one back from his credit card company - and because he felt that the banks couldn't unilaterally change loan terms without his agreement, a lawyer/reader offers this dash of reality:

As you know, I am a Texas lawyer and the laws of other states may permit what your "bright fellow" ("BF") is attempting to do, as related in your article of today. I doubt it, however, because (1) there is a signed contract, which originates from the application that BF or a family member signed when he applied for credit; (2) if not, there would be an implied contract, and (3) when the credit card companies change the interest rate (or other terms of the contract), they give advance written notice and tell cardholders that any future charges, etc. will be subject to the new terms or the account should be paid off under the old terms and no further charges made. Since the "no money" argument is unique, I can't opine on it. The numbered items above, however, are well settled law in most states in which I have practiced (Arkansas, Texas and Florida) and will cause the arguments made to be denied on motion for summary judgment, if made in most Texas courts. More importantly, however, under either the terms of most of such contracts, they will cause BF to incur a judgment for the "reasonable" attorneys fees of the credit card companies (which will not be reasonable in amount), probably resulting in BF having to seek protection of the bankruptcy court in his judicial district. If the contract involved does not contain a "winner gets attorneys fees" provision, opposing counsel can proceed under Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 13 (or similar provision in his state) where such an award can be made for a "frivolous suit."

If BF still wishes to proceed, you might advise him to do so in a local small claims court, where the total amount of any adverse judgment is within a manageable limit, thereby putting a cap on such an award, even if appealed to a higher court (in Texas).

I see the problem - looks like a tough nut to crack, doesn't it? Nevertheless, we will cheer for the underdog in this, because the reader thinking of initiating the action has paid the actual cost of the goods he purchased (and then some) - but what has caught up with him is the usurious interest charges. OOOPPPS! Sorry, I forgot. There's no such thing as usury when dealing with credit card companies...it's whatever they feel like...

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