Tuesday, December 13, 2005

What is Truth?

There appears to be varied opinion but I’m wondering if truth is an absolute like in math or the many colored spectrum of the rainbow of perception. Is there a truth to the actual mechanics of the mortgage contract? Does double entry offsetting liabilities reflect honesty or dishonesty? Does it truly reflect a promissory note as an asset because it is, or is it just a balance technique to create zero tax liability? Was the Uniform Commercial Code written as error when it laid down how title rights pass? Did banking not understand credit vs. cash deception? Are our opinions really that diverse or are the facts misunderstood? Retractor or supporter alike, don’t we really want the truth? When I went to prison for securities fraud I worked in a company that issued promissory notes. Deductive reasoning would conclude that a promissory note to be a security must be a financial asset. There being no such thing as liability fraud, the crimes were the misstatements of fact and the omission of facts. If I’m not being told my financial asset is being deposited and used to fund the transaction, is that a misstatement or an omission, or just an accounting formality? Can you understand why I am sensing some form of hypocrisy in the financial asset arena? Let’s just say accounting means nothing. Why all the new rules and penalties over Enron, WorldCom, and Arthur Anderson? The UCC is not the law. This is a half truth, its adoption into International Treaties and adoption by all 50 states is the law. If you have truth that will shed some absolute light upon this subject, all want to hear it. I for one happen to believe behind every smokescreen of a lie is a solid piece of honest, absolute truth. If you have that, you are an asset, if you’re just blowing smoke you will be discovered by the winds of a diligent seeker.

18 comments:

son of a prophet said...

WHAT IS TRUTH??


(doesnt get any easier than this :-) )


"I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE."

YESHUA HAMASHIACH

habakkuk said...

Amen to that:)

Judge Roy Bean said...

Hmmm..."Retractor or supporter alike, don’t we really want the truth?

"Retractor?" Well, let's assume the person allegedly writing as Kurt meant "detractor" and go from there.

Detractors and supporters alike have access to the truth, but it doesn't come from scam promoters who lay claim to some secret knowledge about the way the lending systems work and how to supposedly thwart them for your benefit.

The fact is, if you want to play the game and get yourself into a home with one of the myriad of loan offers, you can. But you're letting someone (the lender) pay off the current owner and thus obligating yourself to the terms of the legal documents you sign.

You borrow from a lender and get a house from someone who then goes out and takes that money and probably gets (or builds) another house. Now you owe on the new note because you are living in a house and they probably used the proceeds to get yet another loan on their new house.

It's just not a whole bunch more complex than that, but scammers like the Johnson's and their promoters will keep trotting out legally-bogus claims to get people to try and fight a supposedly mysterious system with lunatic arguments that have been well-tested in court.

Folks, when you sit down to play blackjack in Las Vegas, don't think you'll walk out with more than you came in with by trying to tell the dealer how the game is played - especially if you've paid some some alleged guru who never really won a hand at the table.

The Honorable Judge Roy Bean
http://www.loansharks.blogspot.com

son of a prophet said...

...for all you seekers of the "truth"...

...other than Yeshua HaMashiach, there is NO truth!

what one must ask themselves is this...would you rather face defeat honestly, or win by decepton??

AS one cannot defeat the banking system honestly, as by deception the banking system was created...AND by deception shall it be taken down.

CHOOSE your poison, as neither side can claim to be self righteous, in terms of Godliness.

This is not to be critical of the process, just a fact. If the opponents of the banking system play completely honestly, they have NO chance at all, as the banking system is corrupt as the day is long.

neodemes said...

Keep your money in a mattress and stop signing promissary notes.

Duh.

G-FORCE said...

JRB-----"...you borrow from a lender..."---That phrase has been part of the fraud that you seek to protect. Righteousness is coming to this economy and those who have perpetuated fraud WILL be held accountable. As far as listening to someone who "has really never won a hand at the table before", I knew who I was and what I stood for before DG. You can not win unless you play, and "we" WILL win, in Jesus name!!

G-FORCE said...

TCOB-----"....what happens if I don't win?"------I had not considered that thought. "I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me." I do not play four quarters, I play till I WIN.---If Jesus Christ was in charge of the economy, this blog and the efforts it represents would NOT be necessary. As HIS ambassador and representative, He has given me and every other TRUE believer authority over this earth and everything that goes on here. I accept the responsibility , and in Jesus name may the one true GOD remove from power and influence those that would work against HIS will on this earth. I speak righteousness and prosperity into the economy of the USA!!!

son of a prophet said...

Have You actually read the Bible?


I bet you celebrate all the paganized "Christian" holidays such as Easter and Christmas.

ANS.) TRUE. THESE ARE PAGAN HOLIDAYS.





I bet you also break the sabbath by going out for a nice ham dinner after church.

ANS.) FALSE. FOR CHRISTIANS, ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL TO EAT, AS THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE.





I know, I know the 'Law" was for the Jews only right.

ANS.) FALSE. THE LAW IS FOR ALL NON-BELIEVERS ON YESHUA NO MATTER WHAT ETHNICITY. CHRISTIANS ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE. (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH A LICENSE TO SIN.)




Jesus did away with the "Law" right?

ANS.) TRUE. YESHUAs FULFILLED THE LAW.





Unfortunately 200 years of false church doctrine, and anti-semitism have led you to believe that the law was to be kept as a means of salvation for the jews.

ANS.) NOT SURE WHAT IS MEANT HERE, BUT JEWISH CHRISTIANS ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW AS ANY OTHER CHRITSIAN IS NOT UNDER THE LAW.

THE LAW IS FOR ALL NON BELIEVERS WHO ARE NOT UNDER GRACE; JEWISH NON BELIEVERS, GENTILE NON BELEIVERS ETC.






But God saw that it was too difficult to keep so he sent Yeshua to do away with it all.

ANS.) FALSE. GOD SENT HIS SON TO FULFILL THE LAW PERDECTLY AS THE ELDERS WERE ABUSING THE LAW TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AND THUS THE TRUE LAW DID NOT EXIST ANYMORE BUT HAD BECOME MERE RITUAL. GOD WAS NO LONGER IN THE HEARTS OF THE RULING JEWS OF THAT DAY. THE AVERAGE JEW HAD NO ACCESS, SO YESHUA TORE DOWN THE THEMPLE CURTAIN ALLOWIN ALL JEWS ACCESS TO GOD.




You see there was the mean Old Testament God who saddled his chosen people with rules they could by no means keep, how nice. Then there is the nice New Testament God who decided to do away with it all. So I thought God does not change. Apparently he does.


ANS.) GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.






The word translated to law is actually Torah, the first five books of the Scriptures. The word Torah is rooted in a Hebrew word that means to "hit the mark", it is an archery term.
I challenge you to study the appointed feast and festivals, that God gave to the children of Israel as a lasting covenant throughout ALL generations.
These festivals paint a perfect profetic picture of Yeshua (Jesus).

Passover-Yeshuais our passover lamb.
Shavuot-Pentecost. Shavuot means fifty. Fifty Days after the resurection was Pentecost.
Shavuot is when God gave the Torah on Mount Sinai. Pentecost is when the Holy Spirit decended on those gathered in the room(he is our living Torah)Why do you think that all those people had gathered there? Yes they being Jews were celebrating Shavuot.
Feast of tabernacles or Sukkot.God commanded His people to live in temporary dwellings for the week of Sukkot as a reminder of of the post Exodus years when thet lived in tents and booths. Most scolars are in agreement that this is when Jesus most likely was born, not Dec25th. He came to tabernacle among men. These are breif example of just a few of the Biblical holidays the foreshadow the birth, death, and resurection of Yeshua Hamashiac(Jesus the Messiah) There are more if you are interested. I would also like you to challenge me as well. Show me where in the Scriptures it is said that do away with the commandments of the Lord.

ANS.) NO WHERE DOWS IT SAY TO DO AWAY WITH THE COMMANDMENTS..."IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS."

WHAT WAS DONE AWAY WITH IS THE SACRIFICE OFFERING FOR BREAKING THE COMMANDMENTS AND MAKING ATONEMENT AND WASHING AWAY SIN.

MANY ERRONEOUSLY CONFUSE A CHRISTIAN NOT BEING UNDER THE LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE AS A LICENSE TO SIN, LIKE A FREE PASS. IT IS NOT!

NONETHELESS, A CHRISTIAN IS NOT UNDER THE LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE.

A TRUE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT NEED THE LAW, AS THE LAW IS WRITTEN ON THEIR HEARTS.





8:16 PM

son of a prophet said...

ADDENDA:

SHORLTY THE "GOSPEL OF GRACE" WILL BE ENDING AND THE EARTH WILL BE ENTERING THE PERIOD OF THE "GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM."

DURING THIS PERIOD, MOST CERTAINLY, THE LAW IN FACT FOR JEWS WILL BE KEPT, IN FACT FOR EVERYBODY, JEW OR NOT, AS NO ATONEMENT CAN BE MADE FOR SIN, AS THE GRACE PERIOD HAS RUN OUT, SORT OF LIKE A FREE INTEREST PERIOD ON A BILL. THE BILL IS NOW COME DUE AND WILL BE PAID IN FULL.

TRIBUTE WILL BE PAID TO THE FALSE MESSIAH RESIDING IN JERUSALEM, UP UNITL THE "ABOMINATION OF DESLATION" WHERE THE FALSE MESSIAH DESECRATES THE TEMPLE.

YESHUAs MESSAGE TO JEWS FOR THAT TIME..."WHEN YOU SEE THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE..."

THE HOLY PLACE WILL BE OUTSIDE THE TMEPLE, NOT IN IT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

G-FORCE said...

TCOB-----If you can not grasp the concept of material wealth(among other things), then you would have an extremely hard time existing in Heaven, in fact, you would not be able to exist at all. It will take faith to live there. Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. There is no sin in Heaven. God apparently has chosen to pave the street in front of my mansion with GOLD. Jesus was approximately just 3 years old when he was given very expensive gifts in abundance---GOLD, FRANCENSENCE, and MYRH. His ministry supported 70 people plus their families. He had a full-time treasurer to keep track of funds. "Blessed is the poor"---He came to free them from poverty and oppression. Money is only a part of the definition of true wealth. If you have cancer and million dollars, you are a poor man with a million dollars. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money is NOT evil. Satan comes only but to steal, kill, and destroy. He is the father of ALL lies. He and those that follows his ways, have absolutely no right to the wealth in their possession. You are and will be witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of earth from the wicked to the righteous.

WillToFight said...

Mogel

On "Subject Matter Jurisdiction"

Isn't that just a matter of whether "State" court v. "Federal" Court would here the case.

I don't think the banks make many mistakes as to filing in the wrong jurisdiction, or do they? If they did all they'd have to do is refile in the proper court.

Is there anything else in "Subject Matter Jurisdiction" that I might have missed that can be used to help folks?

WillToFight said...

Tell you what! We have not heard from "SeenItInUtah" as in earlier blogs he swore to having so much evidence about the Bond and other information.

Goes to show, he is trying to mislead us and discourage us from our goal!

WillToFight said...

Mogel

Could this be a question "Subject Matter Jurisdiction" where citizenship v. sovereignty are concerned?

What am I missing? If anything!

son of a prophet said...

PG-

I do not give 'pat church answers.'

I do not attend any church.

These are interpretations of Scripture given to me by the Holy Spirit.

I do not think debate would be profitable, as the Holy Spirit only reveals ts each of us what is good for us to know at a particular time.

Also, being able to apply what one knows is totally depedent on the Holy Spirit as well.

A simple example of this is as follows:

If I walk up to a Christian and start puncing him in the face, if he reacts by hitting me back, he has just lost witness.

However, the bible is perfectly clear about not repaying evil for evil and turning the other cheek.

All Christins know these verses, yet can not apply them.

Reason: The Holy Spirit has not yet enabled them to apply what they know.

son of a prophet said...

PG-

what I have said are interpretations from the bible.

Everything I have said is there.

It appears that you may be Jewish.

If so, this would explain our seeing things differently.

If not, then discussing it, as I have said would serve no useful purpose.

These are things that either the Holy Spirit has revealed to one or not. Discussing it is fruitless.

I have been in hundreds of disucssins and have come to realisze they serve no useful purpose when one is trying to explain things on a "spiritual" level, also knows as a 'supernatural' level.

May the Peace of Yeshua be with you.

son of a prophet said...

PG-

It must have been you that wrote to me once before regarding 'replacement theology'; which again you have attributed to me when I have never stated nor implied this.

This will be my last post 'discussing' this issue with you.

You are free to believe what you like and to also believe about me what you like. It doesnt really matter to me what you believe.

I have discussed with your 'types.'

You seek not to learn, but argument and confrontation to 'prove' that you are correct.

You cannot 'prove' anything, as I have said before. These are thngs of Holy Spirit wisdom. Either one has it or one doesnt. Either one understnds this or one doesnt. There is nothing to discuss.

If you had it, you would understand. You are trying to understand with the human mind of things that are spiritual and logical. Logic does not apply here.

Can you possibly know my life hisotry or what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me? No, you cannot. You are trying to use logic, as if this were a courtroom.

THE SAME LOGIC THAT THE PHARISEES LIKE NICODEMUS TRIED TO USE.

This is what lawyers in a courtroom try to use, like the Sanhedrin. All that logic does not apply here.

These are spiritual things.

You quote and you quote, but its obvious that its not in or on your heart jsut like Nicodemus, trying to understand spiritual things with the human mind. (Church pastors do the same thing; they know the bible insied out, but devoid of Holy Spirit wisdom. Why I do not go to church; there is nothing they can teach me, and in fact theres lots I could teach them, but they dont know it.)

Rather than try to force your views upon me, take time and ask yourself if you understand what the Holy Spirit is and wheterh or not you possess it? And I did NOT say whether you can repeat what the bible says aobut it, BUT whehter you possess it??

Someone in this blog once said tht when the time comes, the martyrs were not in pain despite being tortured or burned at the stake.

That is the Holy Spirit's description of what it is.

Wheter or not YOU have it, means can YOU be burned at the stake and feel no pain???

That is the difference between describing what it is, and haivng possession of it.

ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS.

I have been given Holy Spirit wisdom. I do not need to, nor can I, prove it to you.

May the Peace of Yeshua be with you.

son of a prophet said...

TCOB said:



son of prophet



You are a good candidate to be a cult leader.

NO. BECAUSE I DO NOT SEEK ANY FOLLOWERS, BUT ONLY TO TEACH THOSE WILLING TO LEARN.

BESIDES, WE ALREADY HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE, THEY ARE CALLED PASTORS AND STAND AT PULPITS SENDING MANY THOUSANDS INTO PERDITION WITH THEIR FALSE TEACHING.

SATAN RULES IN CORPORATE CHURCHES, AS THESE ARE 501-C CORPORATIONS. CORPORATIONS ARE AGENTS OF THE STATE. WHAT DID YESHUA HAVE TO DO WITH THE STATE???

CORPORATE CHURCHES WERE CREATED BY DECEPTION, SIMILAR TO THE BANKING PROCESS. YOU COULD START A DOREAN PROCESS ON LIBERATING CORPORATE CHURCES FROM THE STATE. SAME DEAL.

IN CORPORATE CHURCHES, THE DECIEVED BELEIVE THAT THEY ARE WORSHIPPING YESHUA, WHEN IN FACT, THEY ARE PAYING HOMAGE TO SATAN.






You are right, everyone else is wrong.

YOU HAVE SAID THIS, NOT I.




No hears the holy spirit better than you.

HAVENT MET ANYONE YET, BUT WILL KNOW WHEN I DO.

You are too good for churches or
other christians

WHAT DO TRUE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO DO WITH CORPORATE CHURCHES WHERE SATAN RULES???

You alone have the answers because the Holy Spirit speaks directly to you.

YES. THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO ME. DOESNT HE TO YOU??
IF NOT, HOW IS IT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN?

I think I've heard this before.

HEARD WHAT BEFORE???

Oh well, I'm sure you will have a great answer for me as I am not spiritually enlightened.

SEEK THE TRUTH, AND YOU SHALL FIND IT.

This has really turned from focusing on Dorean and on religion

We should get back to the purpose of the blog.

Pro or con on mortgage elimination

son of a prophet said...

hockedonn-


even the oriental philosophers had a proverb which has a universal truth to it:

WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY, THE TEACHER WILL APPEAR.



Thus, your statement that I am not willing to teach, is false.

I AM VERY WILLINT TO TEACH. ARE YOU WILLING TO LEARN??

What I do not want to do, is debate issues that the Holy Spirit has taught me, as this is not teaching, but debating which is a waste of everyones time.

Also, upcoming events shortly leave no time for debate.

The Holy Spirit will be very soon teaching a 'crash course' so to speak that everyone can get in on.

But, it will not be very pleasant, I can guarentee you.

Currently, the Holy Spirit teaches thru suffering, suffering and more suffering which the whole world is going to go thre very, very shortly.

At that point, I gurentee that you will understand.

Consider the preceding info from me as an introductory lesson number one.

Further graduate study level lessons will come from the Holy Spirit Himself.

Then you will understand, and all your questions will be answered.


Peace.