Wednesday, December 19, 2007

The Coin Toss (December 10, 2007)

I continue to flip the coin of joy and sorrow hoping it will tell me of my future tomorrows. What are the odds, just show me a sign, but it all evens out given the time. 50/50, good and evil, or fate? Why is God always running late? Agony twist in my soul and I can't find the comfort of control.

I used this verse to highlight what I think most of us experience in this walk of faith. There are some spiritual truths that should anchor us within this turmoil. First we know that joy and sorrow are inseparable. It is the sorrows that carve out room for the joys. Your joys would be as shallow as a smile if your heart was not completely involved. This involvement comes from the conditioning created by our sorrows. I miss my wife and it pains me to continually be separated from her. This is a sorrow directly proportionate to the joy she brought to my life with her faithfulness. I may cry but what if I didn't have the joy I would not feel this deep sorrow? Many of you have paid a high price in this exercise called Dorean but your joys will be equal. Those who took no risk for truth do not feel the pain of its absence. This is easily seen by the comments here. The scripture says that weeping may last the night but joy comes in the morning. My sorrows as yours are directly proportionate to my joy. If you had great joy I'm sure you have experienced great pain. What you know about joy won't be stolen from you by this pain only made poignant. Agony is the wrenching of our souls for our honest desires. It is like birth pangs. It is a contracted state that will not last long. A new life will emerge from the agony. Don't fall into the trap of seeking a sign or looking for a formula for it all to make sense. Our relationship with God is not like that. What you are really asking for when you seek a sign is a God that stays within your imagination. This is reducing God to an idol. Now God did give the one sign which is measurable celebrated by the world at this time, and that is the incarnation. What greater sign can be given? If God put on our flesh to unite with us and remove the barrier that separated us that is a sign of power, and love. This is the God we should run to not seeking a sign. I am safe in that love connected to that kind of power to resolve any tragedy I face. As I seek to be in the presence of my wife and good friends it is not because I need them to give me a sign they love me. They love me by accepting my presence. I don't need a trinket of their affection whenever we get together. I just want them. Why seek anything from God but Himself? The strange truth is that in seeking Him and Him alone all things are added unto you. Control is not really that comfortable because you dethrone the real God who died for you so you may be your own God. Plain and simple you suck at being God that is why you spend time on the folly of seeking a sign or formula to help you understand. As I sit in limbo pretty certain of my destiny I'm looking at these lingering days as a waste of time. My spirit tells me this is not SO but I can't seem to shake it. The result is a frustration that takes me to the poetic verse in the beginning. What I'm doing is praying, fasting, and spending time with the Lord. In conjunction with this activity I'm going to start the book I need to write for my future. I'm hoping this keeps my desires, joys and sorrows simmered down a little. If it does not I thank the Lord I am sensitive to the wonders of life and not obtuse. I encourage you not to let the time linger as you wait for deliverance. Deliverance is in the presence of the Lord. Dwell there and you will be prepared for the blessings that await you. I can tell by the comments I see posted here that most of you are not prepared. Seek the Lord why He may be found is sound advice. My enemies didn't take that advice and look what it got them.

52 comments:

Yetter said...

My prediction for 2008.
1.Citigroup,Jpm Chase,Wells Fargo will file for bankruptcy protection.
2. Notorial Dissent will infect Dr Caligari with clap.
3.It will be a very good year.

notorial dissent said...

Comment on the latest Kurtian pity fest.

Yawn!!!!

Jim Jr. said...

You have made A huge impact on me and my family ,we are so grateful to you and the Dorean group. We were being robbed by our Mortgage co. and almost forced out. My prayers are answered. Thankyou

neodemes said...

Do tell, Jim!

We've been waiting for a success story.

notorial dissent said...

My questions was refrigerator or freezer carton?

make 'em or break 'em said...

OK. This is a "make or break" Story story.

If world reports is accurate on this, then they are reporting something not generally know to the public.

If not, then, what can I say?

There really is a Santa Claus.

Here it is:


(are you ready?)


HENRY PAULSON CRITICAL AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE CHEST

TOP AIDE TO VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY SHOT DEAD AT CLOSE RANGE


Wednesday 2 January 2008 02:18

127 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES BELIEVED TO BE ON THE HIT LIST

FINANCIAL BRINKMANSHIP LEADS TO THE PREDICTED BLOODBATH

CRISIS HAS ESCALATED WAY BEYOND THE WANTAGATE DIMENSION

make 'em or break 'em said...

....Makin' a list, checkin' it twice

gonna find out who crooked or

nice.....


the grim reeper is comin' ta town....


he know if you been steelin'

he know if you awake...

he know if you been bad or

good

so....be good for you lifes

sake......

ta..ta..tat..ta...ta.....




Judge Bean, I lookin' to see if you name on the list....

You dont need to hide in you robe....after all, you an honenst judge, right???

You got nothing to worry about.

make 'em or break 'em said...

This what they mean saying:

after the 1st, the gloves come off. NO more Mr. nice guy.

make 'em or break 'em said...

Judge Bean, dont worry.

Is that why you always have a strange car parked outside you house?

make 'em or break 'em said...

SUMMARY EXECUTIONS BECOMING ROUTINE, AS IN STALIN’S RUSSIA
The Editor is quite naturally aghast at these developments. Treason attracts the death penalty, but although a bloodbath was anticipated in earlier reports in this series, for summary execution in this manner to be on the menu reminds us all of Stalin’s USSR. It is a fact, however, that Henry Paulson received, we are told, repeated warnings that he must immediately cease and desist from blocking the Wanta and ‘country’ payments, and from his blackmail threats.




Gee, where did that AC guy go?

He was prophetic about "summary executions" last week, even before world reports article.

Guess that why he the AC.

notorial dissent said...

And yet one more of the mentally deficient crawls out from under his rock.

near the end said...

Notorial Dissent Why ya talkin bout yourself that way?

You must of rode the short Bus to school.

Hey you can be my little buddy!!!!!!!!LOL.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Near the End, wasn't The Village People going to have a seventh member but the thought of having the character of a "Dirt Farmer" (your own words) would have the appearance of being too Gay? I guess there was a hidden meaning behind your username "Near The End". You little Macho Man You!

Don Corleone said...

I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.



RUSSIANS ORGANISED THE SEVERED HORSE’S HEAD WARNING

Reports that President George Bush Jr. found a severed horse’s head inside his bed at Crawford, Texas, before Christmas, are hereby confirmed. The head was severed from one of Bush Jr.’s most prized and cherished horses, worth an estimated $350,000. The Editor does not watch films, but knows that a severed horse’s head was used in similar fashion in a film called The Godfather.

The severed equine head was placed in the President’s bed on the instructions of Russian intelligence, according to sources special to this service. To penetrate the tight security at Crawford, it would have been necessary for extraordinary measures to be taken, for the intended outcome to be achieved. Russia is of course one of the countries that has required payment under the overall financial Settlement, which Paulson, Bush Jr. et al had been blocking.

It is believed that the horse’s head incident occurred after the shooting of Paulson. It may have reflected retaliation against purported threats against the life of President Putin [see below].

It has also been reported that United States 11th Circus Court Judge, Roy Bean has not been publicly in weeks and is reputed to be lying low for some unspecified reason, perhaps concerning the contents of the "hit list."

Don Corleone said...

"Sonny, go get Luca Brasi, I got a job for him to do."

Don Corleone said...

"Luca, we got this corrupt Judge, see and he's always ruling against the family."

"Right Luca, if he want so bad to part of the underworld, lets help him. Make sure that tonight he sleep with fishes."

Judge Roy Bean said...

Wow, come back from a holiday break and this place has slid even further into the tin-foil hat world.

JDJD said...

You're so right Judge. SOP and his various alter egos almost make you long for the merely ludicrous ramblings of Moogles, don't they?!

Don Corleone said...

"I knew it. It was Don Barzini all along."

"the Editor" said...

UPDATE, 5.00PM 2ND JANUARY 2008:


Henry M. Paulson, the Secretary of the United States Treasury, died today from gunshot wounds suffered as described in this report. The State Department have confirmed this to sources in touch with this service. We do not know, and it may never be known, whether Paulson was shot dead 'in the course of duty' given that he had continually committed gross treason in time of war and had repeatedly (we are informed) been warned of the consequences if he did not cease and desist.

Christians are supposed to pray for their enemies, so a fervent prayer for Paulson and his family is in order right now given the terrible state of affairs that arose due to this man's intransigence. It should be added, in the interests of justice, that although Paulson committed the financial crimes described in these reports with great arrogance, it is also the case that he did these things at the urging of and in collusion with the Bush Crime Family, as every informed observer is well aware.

"the Editor" said...

NOTE:

The Editor has compiled this report from such TOP SECRET sources as from Extra-Terrestials who are actually capable of walking around invisible to the human eye.

THUS, do not see this expected to be reported on the local evening news programs.

"the Editor" said...

The Editor of this service has also obtained information that the Provost Marshalls is also looking for one D.B. Cooper, the original provocateur of this whole Wanta debt crisis, who jumped out of a skyjacked airplane over the woods of Washington state almost 40 years ago with an estimated $200,000.00 and has never been seen since.

He had apparently disappeared without a trace and has been rumored to be hiding everywhere from a spider hole in Antartica to having bribed aliens to transport himself above to their spaceship.

near the end said...

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near the end said...

swami I love you. I love you. I love you.

Will you Marry Me??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

near the end said...

Please swami baby call me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"the Editor" said...

RAPID FIRE UPDATES from

"THE EDITOR"


UPDATE, 11.30PM 2ND JANUARY 2008:


2 informed sources state authoritatively that the official intention is to claim that Paulson died of a heart attack. The way that he died has been verified by intelligence, official, diplomatic, military and personal sources. A separate source close to the Paulson family has also confirmed that Paulson died on 2nd January and that the cause was precisely as stated in this report and Updates. As is
always the case in such circumstances, a tentative operation is being mounted to claim that our report is false. This is tantamount to asserting that the Editor is a liar which (a) is fatuous given the record of these reports and (b) will have serious consequences if so asserted. There is also the usual category of people who are still at the elementary stage of not believing anything unless it's in the 'mainstream' press. These doubting Thomases ought to take the trouble to look up Operation Mockingbird, the veteran CIA operation to control the media in the United States. And finally, when reporting intelligence-related matters, constraints applicable to what may be stated, do apply. We only report what is in the public domain. By definition, if the information were not made available to us, it could not be reported. We would not report such information unless verified by our sources. Journalists do not reveal their sources when asked to do so. The sources are always confidential.

"the Editor" said...

LETTERS TO "THE EDITOR"



Dear Mr. Editor:

I really enjoy reading you hourly updates for the last few months on the Wanta crisis.

And I especially enjoy you posting here at this blog due to your very busy schedule.

It is also a pleasure to see all the various celebrity personalities who post here.

Everyone from the AC to Don Corleone.

HOw do you do it?

I mean, any minute now, I am expecting Dan Rather to show up here to report on the Paulson story.


Sincerely,

A loyal subscriber



ED. NOTE: Regarding Mr. Rather showing up here, be careful what you wish for.

"the Editor" said...

More Letters to "THE EDITOR"


Dear Mr. Editor,

I am somewhat skeptical of your recent reports on the death of Mr. Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary.

It is well know that the mainstream media is controlled by the various corrupt and criminal intelligence agencies.

HOWEVER, even as corrupt as the controlled newsmedia is, do you expect us to believe that even these blind as a bat news persona could possibly conceal such a story as the murder of a sitting United States Secretary of the Treasury!?

Come on now Mr. Editor!

You will have to do better than this.


Sincerely,

A skeptical subscriber

"the Editor" said...

ibid.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Marriage huh? I want a pre-nup?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I've just learned that the editor of World Reports is the original Paul Macartney of the Beatles. Listen to the White album backwards and you will gain more clarity on this. The real Paul died 40+ years ago. However, in true British fashion, the writer of World Reports (Who Is British) is the real Paul. You gotta love those brits and their silly wit.

notorial dissent said...

And now the Bilge Report for December 10, 2007

Kurt whined
I continue to flip the coin of joy and sorrow hoping it will tell me of my future tomorrows.

I didn’t know there were coins that could come back with 15 to life.... well, learn something new every day.

Kurt complained
Why is God always running late?

So the almighty is supposed to schedule to your whims now??? I don’t think so!!!!!!!!!

Kurt propounded
Many of you have paid a high price in this exercise called Dorean but your joys will be equal.

Too true, fortunately, most of them won’t need to look forward to spending time in jail as well as losing their homes.

Kurt sniveled
What I'm doing is praying, fasting, and spending time with the Lord.

What you’re doing is whining, coniving, and trying to bargain your way out of the mess you got yourself into.

Kurt promounced
My enemies didn't take that advice and look what it got them.

Yep, you sitting on your useless ass in a jail cell, waiting to spend the rest of your worthless life in a Federal prison cell is where it got them. And you did it all yo widdle self, without any help from your mean ole enemies. I guess one good thing will come of it, at least your children will know where to find you..

"the Editor" said...

Repeat affrimation:


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THOU SHALT HAVE NO EDITORS BEFORE ME.

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near the end said...

We all should start calling notorial dissent, The Judge he's really goog at doing that.

near the end said...

Replace the g with a d in goog. I have to tell ND this or he won't get it. He lacks the mental capacity.

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"the Editor" said...

THE EDITOR of this service has learned of new limits imposted on Debit Cards.

Sources have informed THE EDITOR of this service that only those with cards attached to HYIPs schemes will be affected.




Citibank limits ATM cash in city


Thursday, January 3rd 2008, 4:00 AM

A jump in ATM fraud led Citibank to slash the maximum amount of cash available to customers from their accounts - a security move greeted warily Wednesday by its patrons.

The new cap on cash kicked out by the company's ATMs began in mid-December after what Citibank called "isolated fraudulent activity" around the city.

The bank, with 134 branches around town, would not say how many customers were affected or how much money was involved.

One Brooklyn woman said she went to her bank branch on Christmas Eve and was unable to take out her normal cash limit, so she called customer assistance.

"She told me customer accounts had been hacked into through cash machines around the city," the woman said.

"As a result, the bank had decided to slash how much customers could withdraw from their own accounts. They cut my amount in half.

"She said most New York customers were affected and she suggested I change my password."

The bank insisted the problem was not national in scope, although it would not provide any other information. Citibank declined to specify the amount of the new withdrawal cap.

"Though we can't provide details of ongoing security investigations, we are working closely with law enforcement on this matter," the bank said in a two-paragraph statement.

Citibank customers were divided over the new policy.

"It's your account and your money," said Mari Lopez, 22, a Manhattan student.

Manhattan truck driver Hamadou Boureima favored the move.

"It's a good idea. In case someone steals your card and identity, you'll have some money left," Boureima said at a Manhattan Citibank branch. "Otherwise, someone can take everything."

Customers caught short of cash when making ATM withdrawals can call customer service and get instant access to more money, Citibank said.

The bank said customers were not responsible for fraudulent activity in their accounts.

That didn't pacify Pam Tinney, 43, of the Bronx, who felt the new limit was an overreaction.

"If they made the ATMs more secure, we wouldn't have to worry," she said. "It's our money. We should be able to take out any amount we want, when we want."

"the Editor" said...

There are various scattered reports reaching the desk of THE EDITOR® regarding varied sightings of the US Treasury Secretary.

These are to be disregarded right off, as dark forces have made prodigious use of clones at this present time.


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Judge Roy Bean said...

Odd...where's Gashler?

Did the Romney campaign get the church to put the arm on you Byron?

Did you get the word? Do they "disfellowship" members for what you've done?

After all, a nutball rogue mormon scam promoter in Iowa isn't exactly what the Romney campaign needs, is it?

Enquiring minds want to know, Byron.

Is that any nuttier than the crap you promote? I doubt you're still even a member.

LOL!

Yetter said...

The only thing worse than a child molester, is an ambulance chaser.

neodemes said...

Let sleeping dogs lay, Judge!

near the end said...

See how the judge roy cum licker tries to get mogel going and start posting again.

He can't help himself.

Judge go troll another site your very very BOREING here.

near the end said...

See how the judge roy cum licker tries to get mogel going and start posting again.

He can't help himself.

Judge go troll another site your very very BOREING here.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "What you’re doing is whining, coniving, and TRYING TO BARGAIN your way out of the mess you got yourself into.
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What a very interesting statement!!!!!

How does one BARGAIN with no chips in hand? Unless you want to admit a person can BARGAIN with a losing hand now that the jury has spoken! Course that statement makes no sense when you have already sentenced the Dorean Group to 20 + years even BEFORE THE FACT EVEN THOUGH YOU TALK OF IT AS A FACT TO COUNT UPON.

Or is this latest statement an admittance that THE REAL ISSUES ARE not over with? How does one bargain NOW THAT THE TRIAL IS OVER? WHAT COULD KURT & SCOTT POSSIBLY OFFER THE COURT OR ANYTHING OR ANYBODY IN POWER THAT IS SO ENTICING THAT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO BE SET FREE FROM JAIL? If you can't think of anything, than the word, "bargain" is really out of place here.

Or are you admitting this is not over & Kurt in fact has a few aces up his sleeve & that concerns you? LOL Or is your nonsensical writing, just a form of whining, and coniving, THE VERY THING YOU HATE?

I always thought you had to have SOMETHING someone else needs or wants IN ORDER TO BARGAIN. Am I wrong? If not, you are just a raving lunatic deserving to be ignored, just like someone who thinks he can bargain (which is impossible) if you have NOTHING TO OFFER.

Or are you just continuing to write more nonsense?

Judge Bean, you really need to get a real life! I could care less what you believe. My church standing is about as uninteresting & irrelevant to most people, as your posts and criticisms.

Obviously Romney lost in Iowa because the prejudice people there were TOO CONCERNED about what his religious denomination was, instead of what kind of President he could be or what integrity & credentials & leadership he could bring to the table. This totally wrong focus is about as stupid as the Jury's focus was in the Dorean trial.

neodemes said...

Why presume Mitt tanked due do his mormonism?

Maybe they just don't like or trust the man.

notorial dissent said...

Moogies back and dense as ever
How does one BARGAIN with no chips in hand?

At long last you have finally recognized that. Now if Kurt just would.

And tries again, and misses
Or is this latest statement an admittance that THE REAL ISSUES ARE not over with?

Nice try Moogs, but not what I said at all, and what I said was that Kurt was trying to bargain his way out, not that he could. I’m not responsible for Kurt’s ongoing delusions of adequacy and pretended omnipotence. The only thing Kurt has up his sleeve is his hairy arm.

mogel007 said...

Nemo asked: "Why presume Mitt tanked due do his mormonism?"
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Because "Huckleberry" finished first, being the fundamentalist he is. People in Iowa want someone who is the mainsteam type, something that Romney doesn't portray to Iowa voters.

Not really sure what Iowans wouldn't like about Romney other than his religion. He comes across as a handsome & competent man. I don't think trust is an issue. Kind of ridiculous to say that people don't trust him when he is willing to talk about his religious preference & talk about that specifically. Is there some reason why trust is an issue here?

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "Kurt was trying to bargain his way out, not that he could."
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Ok, fine, what is Kurt offering then that is so valuable? You still didn't answer my question. If Kurt has nothing to offer, he certainly can't be bargaining, so don't use that word, "bargaining".

If you have nothing to offer except lies, than it's an exercise in futility & you will always fail in the end. However, if Kurt is telling the truth, and has been doing so since the beginning, than this will set him free, otherwise Jesus was a liar too. Did Jesus lie too?

"If you CONTINUE IN MY WORD, then you are my disciples indeed, and YOU SHALL NOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE."

Or "No weapon that is formed against me shall prosper."

I'm going to take the former scripture literally if you don't mind, meaning free from all type of bondage, physical & politically & spiritual bondage. Also being free from lies that bind you & limit your ability to follow God. You are never free if you are ignorant & falling for the lies & deceit the Devil tells you. All liars go to hell for that's what they deserve.

The truth will always EXALT YOU in the end. You can always count on being a winner in the end, and being blessed, if you continue in the truth.

Kurt has always believed he was doing the right thing, and has always believed he was inspired to do what he has been doing. His manhood is determined by following this light. The intent to deceive or mislead has never been his nature or in his character. How someone can interpret that to be so has always been a mystery to me!

If someone does things that he truly believe is congruent with his conscience, why would any charitable person, condemn such a man for what he believes or what he does or what he stands for? Unless of course those that condemn him have no charity, don't listen to their conscience, or have no ability to listen to truth or don't have the ability to be inspired by the truth.

Conventional or bank lending is based upon a lie, pure & simple. Kurt opposes this lie as Jesus would do & did, & this opposition has temporarily put him in jail.

Jesus said in the last days "that even the very elect would be deceived". The only way that could happen would be if those people don't have the Holy Ghost. The elect I believe are members of the body of Christ, or Christs Church, or those that are called to a holy calling, however, "many are called, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN." I believe Kurt & Scott were not only called, but in the end, all will see that they were chosen too, by their right choices and character to ENDURE TO THE END & finish what they started. In the end, they will be the winners. I also agree that "the Lord equips whom he calls" or prepares a way for them to accomplish the things that are commanded of them.

In the final analysis, it's still a faith issue even at this point in time. That's why the debate still continues even now. The fact is Kurt & Scott still haven't been sentenced & that sentence hasn't been carried out and an appeal is still possible, and CHANGES are still conceivable. Neither side of this issue has been batting 100%, so the arrogance on either side is not justified or even warranted.

Note to JD: I'm not hiding. What could I possibly be hiding from? There's NO EVIDENCE AT ALL right now that the FBI or anyone else is interested in making more indictments. I've been as vocal as anyone else here on this blog. If I have nothing to say, it's because there is nothing worthy to respond to or that I need a break from some of the stupidity here.

notorial dissent said...

wherein Moogie fails to grasp simple concepts, yet again
Ok, fine, what is Kurt offering then that is so valuable?

Still can’t read or comprehend for anything can you? I said trying, I never said he had anything to bargain with, just that he thought he had. Kurt, like you, is still deluding himself that he is somehow magically going to get out of this, and it ain’t a gonna happen.

wherein Moogie makes another silly and pointless attempt to deny the obvious
if Kurt is telling the truth, and has been doing so since the beginning, than this will set him free,

Kurt was, is, and will remain a liar and a fraud, and no amount of twisting of words by you or him will change that. In fact, two juries have judicially and publicly and irrefutably confirmed that fact now. The only place he is going is to another prison cell.

Moogie rehashes an old lie for lack of anything better or more original to try
Conventional or bank lending is based upon a lie, pure & simple.

The crack in your record is showing, Moogs, it is a dead issue, the whole premise is a crock.

Moogie tries to convince himself of three impossible things before breakfast
That's why the debate still continues even now. The fact is Kurt & Scott still haven't been sentenced & that sentence hasn't been carried out and an appeal is still possible, and CHANGES are still conceivable.

The sentencing hearing will be in Feb, where they will be sentenced, and the sentence will be carried out. They can certainly appeal, but since they have nothing to appeal, it is doubtful if the Ninth will even accept it.

wherein Moogie tires to practice understatement, and fails
Neither side of this issue has been batting 100%, so the arrogance on either side is not justified or even warranted.

You’re kidding, right, Kurt lost 0 for all, proved what kind of fool he was in full court, and LOST on all counts. This is one of those cases where the defendant proved the prosecution’s case just by opening his mouth. The only arrogance was, and is on Kurt’s side, and it is wholly unwarranted. The only likely changes will be if additional charges are filed, and that is always a possibility. The really big question is how much of the 400 years they could possibly get will they get. I’m betting that between Kurt’s big mouth and the things he has done that he will get most if not all of it, as he so rightly deserves.

Moogs, the only thing more disgusting that a fraud who disguises his villainy behind pretensions at religion and uses religion to justify his actions, is someone who defends the fraud and the fraudster.

wherein Moogie tries to convince himself that it will all blow over
There's NO EVIDENCE AT ALL right now that the FBI or anyone else is interested in making more indictments.

Just keep telling yourself that Moogs, maybe you’ll actually believe it one day, but I doubt it.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "Still can’t read or comprehend for anything can you? I said TRYING, I never said he had anything to bargain with, just that he thought he had.
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Ok then, how is Kurt TRYING TO BARGAIN? Tell me what is he pretending to have than & how the word "bargain" is appropriate here in your language.

Can you give me some specific examples?

How about ANY evidence or any indication that the government is interested in indicting more people & have made any steps whatsoever to date in doing so?

As I thought, STILL NOTHING of substance as usual from you. Keep telling yourself that these things will happen when there is nothing to believe so. I think your presumptions are delusional.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "Moogs, the only thing more disgusting that a fraud who disguises his villainy behind pretensions at religion and uses religion to justify his actions, is someone who defends the fraud and the fraudster."
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I agree with you there, although I think that standard of judgment condemns you, not me.

notorial dissent said...

Well, let’s see here Moogs, who, as we speak, is in jail as a twice convicted fraud artist, on multiple counts of fraud, and is now busily trying to cloak his lies and deceit in religious blasphemy, and who is busy trying to defend him and the lies and deceit?

If this is an example of your thought processes, you are really in deeper trouble than I thought.