tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post7427704161298649905..comments2023-10-25T06:36:25.124-07:00Comments on Mortgage Fraud: Questions of InvestigatorsWhistleblowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144659621472624683noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-538478016730924612007-10-10T10:01:00.000-07:002007-10-10T10:01:00.000-07:00Notarial Dissent said: "but when the mistakes are...Notarial Dissent said: "but when the mistakes are the result of fraud, they tend to get very nasty at anyone involved, and in this case that would be you since you were the primary beneficiary of the fraud, which could end in state felony fraud charges being filed against you."<BR/>________________________________<BR/><BR/>When Kurt & Scott go free unharmed & free with no sentence, THEN THERE IS NO FRAUD possible that can be proven by being a participant of the dorean process & the clients don't have to worry about any more possible scenarios. <BR/><BR/>What part of NO FRAUD, DO YOU NOT GET?<BR/><BR/>So no, Judge Beanhead is wrong in his assessment as you are too. <BR/><BR/>There can't even be any conspiracy when there is no underlying bank fraud either, by being a participant in the process. <BR/><BR/>When the prosecution dropped all of the bank fraud charges, they admitted that the process has legitimacy. <BR/><BR/>In the very beginning when the Dorean Process started their business, everyone will remember that the banks cried that the Dorean Group MAY BE committing bank fraud by their process, but for the longest time, nothing was done about the lenders opinions in ANY criminal courts & no one was being convicted for these claims of "bank fraud" until Scott was arrested, & even Scott wasn't even arrested for alleged bank fraud, it was other bogus LIKE INSURANCE FRAUD & BEING A FUGITIVE. <BR/><BR/> Notice, how even the Courts AREN'T saying that anymore because factually speaking, THERE IS NO BANK FRAUD by the dorean process. <BR/><BR/>And Nemo, calls this "beating a dead horse" even after this great victory. Nemo, you're a dead horse, & you're the one that needs to be beaten for being a worthless ass fighting a righteous cause, and I mean that in the nicest way when I call you an ass.mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/11589299168185830730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-67096644352807557342007-10-10T09:43:00.000-07:002007-10-10T09:43:00.000-07:00Nemo: Did the carcass start to rot AFTER all 26 ...Nemo: Did the carcass start to rot AFTER all 26 bank fraud charges were dropped? Or did the rotting start before then? <BR/><BR/>Did the rotting start before or after the State of Utah dropped all of their BOGUS charges. If those charges in Utah aren't officially dropped, they need to be officially dropped in writing due to the statute of limitations & time to bring those Utah charges to trial timely WHICH HASN'T BEEN DONE. Or I suppose the Utah courts can violate their own rules & do whatever they want & bring more shame to them too. <BR/><BR/>If the process was such a dead horse, the Dorean process wouldn't have had any of those victories, or do you want to totally be unfair & discount everything & only accentuate whatever you vainly choose to as is your usual MO.mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/11589299168185830730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-63298652572572515602007-10-10T09:35:00.000-07:002007-10-10T09:35:00.000-07:00jUDGE SAID: "No one should assume the servicing a...jUDGE SAID: "No one should assume the servicing and title industries aren't keeping up on debt elimination schemes". <BR/><BR/>Next statement: "Therefore if it had slipped through WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED, the lien might have been removed and the next lender wouldn't know you hadn't actually paid off the note.<BR/>_______________________________<BR/><BR/>Judge Beanhead can't even make up his mind what he believes. Either the lenders are keeping up with the documents or they aren't? Which is it? <BR/><BR/>The fact of the matter is, the lien was removed when Scott signed the deed of reconveyance or discharge of mortgage. If there is no fraud in the criminal trial against the Defendants that CAN BE PROVEN, than Scott signing as an authorized agent for the bank MUST STAND FOREVER. <BR/><BR/>If lenders & title companies are REALLY KEEPING UP WITH THINGS, it is a very simple thing to check signatures. After all, all major title companies have been made aware of the names of Scott Heineman & Kurt F. Johnson. <BR/><BR/>Once all criminal charges have been dropped, do you really think any lender is going to cause any more legal actions towards any Dorean clients????? I doubt that especially since no fraud WAS EVER PROVEN ONCE KURT & SCOTT GO FREE. How can the process be a scam, if there is no criminal charges that CAN EVER BE PROVEN? Come on, even a retard can answer that question without skirting the facts. <BR/><BR/>Again, if there is no fraud in the dorean process, all the paperwork filed MUST STAND & must be legally recognized. <BR/><BR/>The only reason why the lenders had the balls to go after Dorean clients & foreclose on their homes, is because they always thought they could count on the courts to back their illegal activities. <BR/><BR/>Once it is proven that no criminal charges can be filed against any past participants of the Dorean Process & be MADE TO STICK, than at that time, that expectation of counting on the courts to justify the lenders bad behaviour can no longer be counted upon.mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/11589299168185830730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-8798884316584524542007-10-10T09:11:00.000-07:002007-10-10T09:11:00.000-07:00Judge Idiot said: "they could drop all the charge...Judge Idiot said: "they could drop all the charges and it wouldn't affect the civil case that declared it as a scam."<BR/>_________________________________<BR/><BR/>In other words, according to the Judge, it is a scam BASED UPON NOTHING, no reason, no law. That is why Judge Alsup's civil rulings CAN'T STAND ON THEIR OWN. <BR/><BR/>Judge Beanhead doesn't want to discuss why the dorean process is a scam, Judge Bean, wants to discuss everything else that isn't relevant to the heart of the issue.mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/11589299168185830730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-69203173262262483532007-10-10T09:03:00.000-07:002007-10-10T09:03:00.000-07:00Judge said: " they could drop all the charges and...Judge said: " they could drop all the charges and it wouldn't affect the civil case that declared it as a scam."<BR/>_________________________________<BR/><BR/>Do you think that once all the criminal charges are dropped, that Judge Alsup is safe in his fantasy rulings that supposedly declared the Dorean Process a scam? <BR/><BR/>No, he's the next one going down, big time!!!!!!! Judge Alsup deserves to be financially bankrupt since he's bankrupty of all reason and justice. The Civil cases are still open & are definitely reverseable due to Judge Alsup's fraud & improper rulings.mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/11589299168185830730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-90625258821795219482007-10-08T12:38:00.000-07:002007-10-08T12:38:00.000-07:00Thankyou my little Bald Headed Buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thankyou my little Bald Headed Buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!near the endhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549911991944679870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-83658652970323407742007-10-08T06:06:00.000-07:002007-10-08T06:06:00.000-07:00near the end said... countdown continues... ...near the end said...<BR/><BR/> countdown continues...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> 7<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------<BR/><BR/>Good job.neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-51849593971696311222007-10-08T04:11:00.000-07:002007-10-08T04:11:00.000-07:00countdown continues...7countdown continues...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>7near the endhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549911991944679870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-74359783572213244622007-10-07T18:32:00.000-07:002007-10-07T18:32:00.000-07:00oksurewhynott said... A caged tiger grows more ...oksurewhynott said...<BR/><BR/> A caged tiger grows more irritated when you corner it.<BR/><BR/>-------------------------------<BR/><BR/>It oughta be mighty cranky come 10/14 or so.<BR/><BR/>LOLneodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-19069998655171279682007-10-07T17:45:00.000-07:002007-10-07T17:45:00.000-07:00A caged tiger grows more irritated when you corner...A caged tiger grows more irritated when you corner it.oksurewhynotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908250091049698512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-24827543445947771272007-10-07T13:32:00.000-07:002007-10-07T13:32:00.000-07:00Countdown continues...8Countdown continues...<BR/><BR/>8neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-2311508538721474092007-10-07T06:56:00.000-07:002007-10-07T06:56:00.000-07:00Sounds like Judge Roy Bean is giving LEGAL advice ...Sounds like Judge Roy Bean is giving LEGAL advice here. <BR/><BR/>Are you an Attorney judge or just a wanna be?near the endhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549911991944679870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-14724273217055910632007-10-07T00:16:00.000-07:002007-10-07T00:16:00.000-07:00I'll take Heineman,Johnson over your bs anyday.I'll take Heineman,Johnson over your bs anyday.Yetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861959901979122597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-65092565764428218352007-10-06T16:25:00.000-07:002007-10-06T16:25:00.000-07:00One of the promoters of similar bond redemption no...One of the promoters of similar bond redemption nonsense was just convicted by a jury in Oregon. Even the much-vaunted expert testimony of Walker Todd didn't save Buhtz or his almost-as-whacky scamming partner. The jury saw through the nonsense and convicted him on most of the counts.<BR/><BR/>Buhtz will be sentenced in December. <BR/><BR/>Unintelligible gibberish and legal mythology as promoted by Johnson, Buhtz, etc., will go on and on as long as gullible people can be led into <I>paying</I> to learn how to do things by inherently untrustworthy people who sell the alleged how-to secrets.<BR/><BR/>This isn't legal advice, but while the sycophants and former brokers like Byron Gashler (mogel) and the other childish posters here try to make financial issues sound interesting and conspiratorial, anyone who is still participating in this kind of thing needs REAL, local legal advice, unless of course they don't care what house they and their family are living in in the coming months.<BR/><BR/>Anything else just makes it easy for the predatory servicers who know how and WILL press their legal advantage when you have equity they can come after and they find you hooked up with crooks like Johnson and Heineman.<BR/><BR/>The sad part is some clients might have a valid case against a lender or servicer. There are hundreds of thousands of loans out there that were uttterly bogus, especially in the subprime realm. But if you fell in with the Dorean process to solve the problem, you're trying to use a scam to thwart a scam. That doesn't work. The legal term is "unlcean hands." You can't get away with stealing from John Doe just beacuse John Doe's brother stole from Jane Smith. The law doesn't work that way.<BR/><BR/>Again, if you can afford to keep up with the payments and want to keep living there, you need competent legal counsel if you need to sell or refinance. If you can't afford it, get REAL legal advice before you find the local sheriff, constable or process server knocking on your door with summonses or worse.<BR/><BR/>You got conned by the Dorean Group. Yes, that's hard to swallow. But you're still being conned by the alleged author of this blog or more likely, someone he feeds his drivel to and a tiny handful of obnoxious, ignorant nuts. <BR/><BR/>The religious fog Johnson is trying to foist on you needs to be seen for what it is - simple ego gratification by someone who wants to paint himself as a martyr. He is nothing more than a self-agrandizing, greedy promoter of crap from long ago that he figured could be re-worked into a new flavor the average person wouldn't recognize as snake oil.<BR/><BR/>His crack team was nothing but crackpots who contributed to the aura of authenticity.<BR/><BR/>When you're trying to explain to your children why you're having to pack up and move from the house they have known as a home, you'll probably discover lying to them or other family members isn't easy. You're probaly wired differently than scam artists. It may be hard for you to make up lies on the fly to tell your family. Then again, in the case of people like Gashler, they've found a conventient way to live with being morally bankrupt - just ignore reality and hide behind disproven mythology. A lie isn't a lie as long as just <I>you</I> really believe it, right, Byron?<BR/><BR/>But telling your kids and family the truth, that you got taken in by a scam will be better for them, and you, in the long run.<BR/><BR/>They need to know there are and will always be, people like Kurt Johnson and Scott Heineman.Judge Roy Beanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16197148790963951934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-39824636489012017292007-10-06T16:06:00.000-07:002007-10-06T16:06:00.000-07:00SOP. Congratulations. Your the undisputed heavy w...SOP. Congratulations. Your the undisputed heavy weight champ of blah.Yetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861959901979122597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-81614749725859656062007-10-06T10:46:00.000-07:002007-10-06T10:46:00.000-07:00You will be the second to know.You will be the second to know.Yetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861959901979122597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-56789374178939436652007-10-06T10:33:00.000-07:002007-10-06T10:33:00.000-07:00Thanks, but just let me know when the rest of thos...Thanks, but just let me know when the rest of those charges have been dropped.<BR/><BR/>I'll wait.neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-87059508998482574492007-10-06T10:12:00.000-07:002007-10-06T10:12:00.000-07:00Neo. We are so proud of your progress. Here is the...Neo. We are so proud of your progress. Here is the FBI tip line. 1-800-376-5991, for those who need to help in the cause of justice.Yetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861959901979122597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-73676919259300138482007-10-06T10:06:00.000-07:002007-10-06T10:06:00.000-07:00Countdown continues...9Countdown continues...<BR/><BR/>9neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-9186376605970630802007-10-06T08:43:00.000-07:002007-10-06T08:43:00.000-07:00Hey Merklinger1 your momma must be proud!!!!!!!!!!...Hey Merklinger1 your momma must be proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!near the endhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549911991944679870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-51035937391725396562007-10-06T08:41:00.000-07:002007-10-06T08:41:00.000-07:00Hey Bruce you say that like I care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Hey Bruce you say that like I care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SNIFF SNIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEE HEE HA HA.near the endhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549911991944679870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-58204643397966062262007-10-05T23:42:00.000-07:002007-10-05T23:42:00.000-07:00Countdown continues...10Countdown continues...<BR/><BR/>10neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-34890877932799141572007-10-05T23:20:00.000-07:002007-10-05T23:20:00.000-07:00SHIT MAN BURN IN HELL JOHNSON.WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO...SHIT MAN BURN IN HELL JOHNSON.<BR/>WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET INDITED IN THE DOREAN GROUP SCAM . i AM A SUPERIOR CON MAN TO YOU.<BR/><BR/>I RIPED OFF 150 VICTIMS AND MADE $450,000 TAX FREE FROM THEM WITH DOREAN FROM WWW.FREEDOMANDTRUST.COM.<BR/>I COULD COP A DEAL AND TURN EVIDENCE AGAINST JOHNSON. <BR/>FUCK YOU JOHNSON- BURN IN HELL WHITE TRASHmerklinger1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09748408965742108415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-18386770448175360092007-10-05T14:56:00.000-07:002007-10-05T14:56:00.000-07:00near the end said... As skinny as you are I'd w...near the end said...<BR/><BR/> As skinny as you are I'd win in the 1st 30 seconds. I don't PM only BM.<BR/><BR/>________________________________<BR/><BR/>Spoken like a true anonymous coward.<BR/><BR/>Snivel on!neodemeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936217281148295367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14007337.post-1068921640949128362007-10-05T14:51:00.000-07:002007-10-05T14:51:00.000-07:00Hey Yetter :I think we found it!Hey Yetter :<BR/>I think we found it!JDJDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953954244400676260noreply@blogger.com