I’ve read many comments posted on this blog by those who purport to be followers of Christ and are Dorean clients. I thought I would relate a personal story in an attempt to help those of you who may need help with discernment and commitment.
In 1995 I was approached to invest in a project. I performed the best due diligence I could to determine whether or not this was a good investment. Then I took it before the Lord. Within 24 hours I received my answer from heaven and it was a resounding “NO.” Not being satisfied with that answer I forged ahead only to discover the reality of not listening. I did manage to recover about 15% of the investment only by the grace of God. I could not bring a charge against heaven because I was warned. I learned a valuable lesson on obedience which travels with me always.
So I ask those of you who purport to be followers of Christ, believed to have been scammed and continually spew your poison, did you prayerfully enter our process? If the answer is “yes” you did prayerfully enter and did receive a “go” from heaven and you went, then why do you complain? If the answer is “yes” you did prayerfully enter and received a “no” from heaven and went anyway, then why do you complain? If the answer is “no” you did not prayerfully enter, then why do you complain?
An honest assessment of why you find yourselves here with us appears to be necessary. Perhaps those of you who were obedient to the “go” are missing the true blessing which is being a vessel poured out for the masters use. Fear not my brethren God is with us. Faint not but pick up your cross and follow. Those of you to whom God said “no” and decided to “go,” well take it from me obedience is better than sacrifice. I can only hope that you have learned to be better listeners. Those of you who did not prayerfully consider participation all I can say is let this be a lesson you will long remember otherwise you are destined to repeat it.
I have met several of you who prayerfully considered entrance and continue to pray and support us in this important fight. You have our undying love and respect for remaining strong, God see’s your devotion and will reward it. It is our intention to refund the entrance fees to all clients and bless the clients who through all of the morass remained faithful and supportive.
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Just like I tried to find a loophole to taking it in the butt,
. . . now I am trying to find a loophole in accepting the blame for taking it in the butt.
True to form are my chaps.
tcob said....
"I take you up on that offer.
In a heartbeat"
(applause) I'm impressed tcob.....10% of the proceeds going to charity. But, least we say that you as a good christian man would probably take that 10% (tithe) and give it to your church anyway.....why not stretch that big heart of yours even further....How bout 50%? What do ya say?
just kidding tcob.....you dont have to answer that.
Seriously, i applaud u for that.
Way to play both ends, Kurt.
So, some would have received a 'go' from your god and can't complain, yet, others would have received a 'no' from your same god and should have listened, but, didn't and can't complain for being scammed.
That's beautiful. Keep it coming.
ROFLMAO
In case you missed it:
neodemes said...
moogie sez:
"It was a proven process for a while"
NO, it wasn't. It was only marketed, heavily, as a proven success.
That is called lying, moogie, and you continue to promote the lie.
Hab sez:
"YOU DONT THINK WE'RE STUPID, DO YOU?"
Yep. Pretty much. LOL.
Hey, Dr. Fred, moogie explained how y'all were nice enough to put the client monies safely in a Latvian bank.
How about putting the money where your mouth is and pay them all back their fees NOW if you are so cock sure there will be a settlement coming?
You ARE that sure, right?
Its just like the devil to try and demonize the DAVIDS out there instead of GOLIATH becuase he knows that DAVID has that one "smooth stone" in his bag thats gonna take his head off. Keep aimin for his head Kurt and Scott....he's comin down soon.
"False accusation always preceeds Divine promotion".....Just like our Lord...Yeshua.
tcob said....
"Habbakkuk.....I'm not the one giving 10%....Fred is donating it out of my settlement. If he wants to give 50% it's ok with me"
Heck, why not go all the way and say 100% of your settlement (if there is in fact a settlement) will be signed over by you to the charity of your choosing. Huh...what do ya say? As long as your in the giving mood, why not..right? Your not risking anything because according to you there is no settlement.
By the way, i think the offer was only extended to you because you said "i dont want the settlement money":(
So what do ya say Taco......100%???
This is getting good:)
DrhFred said...
"By the way this proffer is for any and all that wish to partake. "
I stand corrected Taco...its not just for you. But the refund will come at the same time of the settlement.
So do we still have a deal?
Taco's question:
My question was:
You are saying that you will send me my $4,500 now when I sign the affidavit, not when the settlement occurs right?
Answer:
Drhfred said...
Likewise at the same time (of the settlement disbursment) I shall cut you a refund cheque in the amount of all the funds Dorean collected from you for the mortgage elimination either for the first, second, etc.
Cmon folks lets help him out!.....TACO! TACO! TACO! TACO! TACO! TACO!
Taco,
If you are so confident that there is no settlement you should willingly forfeit yours today.....If you do i admit i was wrong about you.
Taco said....
There will be no settlement
Idiots
THEN SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHTS TO THE SETTLEMENT...BECUASE IT DOESN'T EXIST...ACCORDING TO YOU.
TACO SAID...
He knows that if he offered to pay now that there would be a run by the masses to get their money back
BUT THERES NO WAY IN HELL THERE GONNA PULL A TACO AND SIGN OVER THEIR SETTLEMENT EVEN IF HE OFFERED TO PAY NOW.....NO WAY PAL...LOL!!!!
tcob247 said...
lololol
I know what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wha kind of a fricking deal is that
I'll pay you your $4,500 when the settlement happens
There will be no settlement
Idiots
That is not a deal Dr Fred offered
It's a joke!!!!!!
So then were to understand that you are in the habbit of changing the word of people offers and post to suit you needs?
thats nice tin cup and would you plz try to cut back on the ofers of your WORD I'm tearing up from laughing so much.
YOUR SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT, YOU NO THAT ? HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOUR SELF.
Taco goes on to say....
"Give it back now if your so sure its coming.... then you can keep my settlement.....it will be a drop in the bucket according to yall"
Legally, according to the contract you didn't read, they don't have to give a refund because it was stated that there were risks when dealing with the scum-sucking banks....Not to mention the feds who dipped into the dorean account and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars...remember?
Why would a scam outfit after stealing money from people continue to keep in touch with its clients thru blogs, emails, etc...and even offer to refund their money eventually? All the while the charges filed against them have either been dropped or have yet to stick. Hmmmmmm.
Are you followin this taco? Or does it make too much sense for u?
Again, the bloggers on this site are waiting for you to sign over your settlement to the needy people who could use it more than u. Why do you care about $4,500? thats a "drop in the bucket" for u....right? You and the family can go thru that in a few days at epcot center right?
To everyone that think that this is a scam and that the people that lost there house I have too ask.
Why is it that you would take your house and put it in the dorean process without checking one thing about the success rate that the Neo,seenit,and the rest on this blog seem to lean on as the hinge point of it being a scam?
Why would you risk the in most cases is the largest a& most important investment anyone makes in there life & risk it on the one SALES PITCH that a marketing comp. is claiming to be true?
It would seem to me that you would take a bit more care in the management of your assets than to put them at risk on this pitch
" We have proven successes"
that's being the as you and other here say I'm to assume that that you must have a large pile of shit that you have bought over time after hearing one sale's pitch after another. I think that sound like someone that need's to have someone eles manage there investment and the rest of there important life choses because you seem to lack commen s.....
"COME ON DOWN FOLK'S TO EARL'S BIG DEAL USED CAR LOT BECAUSE EARL HAS A DEAL FOR YOU.
TODAY AND TODAY ONLY EARL IS SELLING A 1967 CORVETTE CONVERTIBLE MINT CLASSIC THAT ONLY HAS 200 ORIGINAL MILE ON IT THATS RIGHT ONLY 200 ORG. MILE EARL IS OFFERING THIS TODAY AND TODAY ONLY SO YOU BETTER HURRY ON DOWN BEFORE IT'S TO LATE.
It make's you wonder how do you do something this
This is what it sound's like everytime one of you Neo, or Tin Cup's get on here and say "they were scammed because they were told it was proven proccess" &told this bin a marketing sale's pitch. So because they were told something that they did no checing to see if there were any that were completed before entering into a contract that they put one of there most valuable assets,paid thousand's of dollar's to pay for then at the same time sign it into a non revocable trust that put's someone they no nothing about in chage of to do as they will. they did all this and that little sale' pitch ? is that what you telling me is the way it went ?
If thius is the case than I'm going to fire my add comp. right now and get the CCR. team to market the sale of home for me it sould be a wind fall of sale' I just hope I can keep up with them all.
TALK ABOUT YOUR JOKE,
NEO, UTAH, THAT WOULD BE YOU.
HOW FUNNY ARE YOU BEING THAT ONE OF YOU IS A SELF APOINTED PROPERTY INVESTER. AND THE OTHER IS A TITLE COMP. AGGENT AND LAWYER
I see there might be some conflict in your true interest about this it could'nt be that your have anything to loose in this winning?
only the millions that is
bobbed by the broker's and aggents in realastate ,loan's and the hole porccess that you belong too.
What a bunch of hippo's that you are to come on here or anywhere for that matter and say that someone is running a scam. When the factis that what you do everyday is scam. You lie and cheat people out of there money from loan's and such.
The effort that go's into add's by Loan ag. Brokers , and bank's and the amount of out and out lie's and how you hyde the full fact's or only disclose what you are forced into doing and then only last min. is the biggest scam running so take you B.S somewhere eles.
To think that someone would put there haouse up like I said with out checking anything out first is only to say that
1. they did'nt care and they were going to loose there house anyway ( so they checked nothing )
2. they are full of it and are part of the people that want this program to go away (Bank's ect)
They have no commen sence ane have lost evrything more than once in there life do to there bad choses (no due dilligence on there part )
they had high expectation that a proccess that was un heard of and that was sure to piss some people off that were in high places and teh did'nt work out like they wanted and now want to point the finger of blame (can't take res. for own misstakes)
4. if there was nothing more to it thatn the sales pitch that it was proven that made them risk all this than we all sould be worried about the level of thinking people out there today
For the rest of you that seem to twist the truth to your side like I see that it is only thousand's of people that paid to get in but that that was'nt at the convention B.S ( I was there and there were thousands unlike what Tin Cup said ) you change thing to suit you need and that is to do what the goverment tell's you you and in fact there lacky or a lemming that has no mind of his or her own
Come on now they lost there house because what ?
that is the biggest bunch of horse crap I have ever heard. or they are the stupidest people I have ever heard of.
If you all wantto beleive that you were scamed go right ahead it is hard to put the fact's of everything together and say that these guy were out to scam there is no way. and then you mean to tell me taht they hung aroud to get more and that's why they'er in jail and not free spending all that money ?\
What about all that money that the FEDs got from more than one acct so is you say that Lav. has so much ,omey thanin one acct than the feds must have three times as much.
Why is ist that the fed don't help these poor people they sy were dupe by thise they don't need all that money sitting in some acct earning hem %% well they suffre as you say they are I mean lok at it the fact's as they were if thefed no some much from all there investagation work over a year's worth then they no who's who and the one inthe proccess that sould get the money there holding it's not like they need to bring it to show in court all's that they will do is state how much there is and that's it from EVD. ther is more shit that sound like it don't add up from the poor one that are here to say they were scamed than anyothers on here and the rest of you just spout out worthless bull shit in the hope of distraction
By the way in answer to Seen it's Utah ??? a few post back " Why I get worked up over tin cup and not other s "
It is not only tin cup you all are a pain but he is the biggest lier of the bunch and would'nt keep his word if his life depended on it ( weel your life that is ) so I have to pick someone to focus on due to working and having a life and family to share it with I chose not to spend evey waking moment on this blog like some here ( tin Cup ) so there dose that make you feel better about my posting
like who the f(*)&^ck are you but a dis tractoer that rides Neo's coat tail's and self interest is your best bet at the work you do .
Why is it that when they got raided that they did'nt fold up shop then and run ?
insead they went and opened a new office and kept going and don't tell me that they were out for more $$$. With Kurt's back ground that would be bull shit if you think he did'nt no what was coming he did no and chose to stand up. he could of simply went away and that would be that. so why is this again?
Why did all the people that claim thatthey lost out due to that one line of the sale's pitch ( proof of successes ) and then risked everything on it without one bit of checking it out ?
and don't say they did check it out again that would be bull shit this is the biggest asset they have if it was still worth anything or they were not going to be at loss in a short time regardless they would have not so quickly put itat risk an dthat is what make sence not that other crap but go ahead why was it again?
Tin Cup
just by the fact that you twisted the offer thaat was givin by Dr. Fred to you so that it read something eles show's that you are the biggest lier here and that you have to change the fact's so thatthey suit the Bull Shit that you claim is the truth
I wait for waht I'm sure is to be some off the topic or you dim witted atempt to side track you lack of....
you are a waste of good air why don't you just give one good exhail and callit a night so the rest around you can get a breath of freash air you dip shit.
where is that big check of your again yousaid thatyou would send it if I did as you asked and I did but what you sent was nothing like a check was it?
did'nt you say your were through postting hyere and that you had a life and better thing's to do that post here ? thatwas all of about two second's before your were back
I guess that you have no life after all isn' t that right
but gio on now say something witty like my spelling suck'ds or that ineed to get grammer leasone from my kid I'm all on pin's waiting for you great reply I'm sure it will be orig.
How many time did you say that you have gone on vac. in the last post to me was it 4 i think that was it if that is the casr where were those trips to I'm just wondering because I don't remember that many from the past few mo. as you claim.
But thenagain I should be use to to and false claims aready .
how is it that you people say that grown people that have made a chose to risk and the fact is just that a risk no mattre how dumb you were you can't but help to see that the proccess was a risk ( why would anyone think that this thing that had not been done before was going to be a smootha s silk and the banks were gonig to roll over and give all that money they take without a fight ) that is the biggest scam how is it the made that chose and now that it did 'nt work out thaty are scamed that is bull shit
they made a chose like any other one and it did'nt go as well (Again due to the feds and the cowards that are here to complain and I do mean spinless aby any ones eye.
more of taco's nonsense....
"Last I saw your hero's are still in JAIL
Wake me up when they get out "
DO we have to go over this again.....obviously its useless to try and explain to you AGAIN why they are falsly incarcerated....But i will anyway. We keep goin in circles taco....its getting boring again:( The debate game doesn't work if you keep using the same nonesense talkin points. Lets try it again: KURT AND SCOTT WERE LIED ABOUT AND SO THEY WERE PUT IN JAIL. THEY WERE PUT THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THE BANK BEING BAD. THE BANK DOESN'T WANT ANYONE TO NOW THEIR LITTLE BAD SECRET. AS IT TURNS OUT, THE BANKS AND THE FEDS ARE GOOD FRIENDS AND THEY DONT LIKE KURT AND SCOTT. Lets continue our bed time story tomorrow...ok.
And thats the problem with our country and the media....if you are in jail you are immediately thought to be guilty.
If what you say is true than I can go out and get out of everythingthat I have lost money on just have to sa that they lied right?
that's good to no I see lies everyday by the mortgage industry by yet there left to go about there secrect non discloser
ther hidin RATE SHEET'S AND SCORE'S the underhanded day to day thing like holding you apperasal so you can't shop them taking away the hope for the customer at any fare deal and the chance at any comp. from other brokers and a better rate by such .
you have you YSP you pad COST LAST MIN> SO THAT THE CUST might not see
let me ask you this so when the broker tells you that they have a loan in place like let's say you get a first loan and you at the same time need a sec. loan to go with it abouve 80% and the brokers said that they havd it in place and they were just wait to hear from one more bank to make the final chose but that they faxed you this and said it was no problem and that it was a go right after ther first closed ( Keep in mind that this is a loan set up That I have done many time) so I would'nt think for one min. that the broker would put me in to a first loan that they were un awere of the fact thyat there chose of a sec. would not write behind it nor would many other ' so now your lock in for 1 yr. ansd you can't get anything of a good rate because of there incop. but what your telling me is they lie so I sould be able to recove r my loss andd ley me tell you it cost me a lot %% and set in to play the last 4 yr. of tring to correct it and good luck it the fight agaist the broker there so slimy that you play hell getting anything out of them now that is all part of te same banking industry that you all want to say is the victom here and these people were lied to . Shit they had more info than any transaction of any loan from a bank even with the discloser and That is just the tip of the ice when it comes to the lies from the lendding goup of snakes the hole bunch fucking snakes and liers that ought to be stung up for there lies .
this go's on everyday evryweek every yr, on and on and nothing get done even when they see the problem and no it need to change now that is a crime by any measuer of one
now that it is a lie and wrong but let it continue to do so anyway what more is there to be a crime than that anyway .
so you keep on defending that bank and all the rest for it is the normal thing to do i can only hope your turn come but than againn what will that help to fix it anyway
your a bunch offuck's that 's it and for the time you spend on the internet and this blog with all the bullshit you post about the scam that is not true you must have no life or a great deal at risk of being lost by it's success or why would you support such an indust.
You have no idea how much the PTB are dir. your life but you just keep thinking how you the one in control.
tell me something what would it take to inact a big change it the Goverment we have to day. like the Fed res. system or any other power that is firmly rooted and making money or some greatreward for there doing's ? do you think that it could be done in short or would it take a life time or never or would they stop at nothing to kee it ?
we all haer it people talk and say they are no goood or that system need;s to be change or there curpt or they rig thevote or he leaked somthing or what every it i s do you see the power at work to stop any and all from it trans in to extinction . let's look at why Nevada placed a bill to recind the right of cong. to coin money that you have al lread yet not much is said about that and I would thjink that it would be looked at as a big statment just in it self past or not that a state of our would want to place that into law it said intill the fed in dismanteled and cong. take back it right to the money control what would it take to remove the fed's from control over are money ,lifes and everything ' control the money and you care not whatthe law tell's youto do , you make the law's and brake any who would stand to oppose you. with that kinda power who need to have a dictatoship in place you still do whatever you want to. there is no one to stop you no oneunless the hole country gets up and want's you gone other than that why would they worry in small numbers your nothing more than a nat fling around a bit anoying but neverthelss of no concern or when you become one you are no more a problem , just slpat and your gone .
You would have to be in a cave all your life to think that the feds don't no there power and that they long ago put in place that withch would take an army to undue as to think about why would anyonee give up that power to any one they can push aside there not worried one bit
so again how long would it take to get rid of the fed if one so wanted to
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there a huge power and that is not going to goo away at the whim of one president or other leader not when they can crush them with wave of there hadnd and tell us all it o.k go back to work you have mortgages to pay for so don't mind this here acts we arethe one that are right as you see we have taken care to let you see they were the bad ones not us
what you think that kinda power is going away good luck casuse I don't think so and I bet you deep down no this along with many but who want's to talk about something bad they can't change and are infected by .
you think about that went you come on here to support that power. it just may be the one that cut you out.
yea yea conspe . tis and fanat -ic that you think whatyou want but it is all to clear to see and make way more sences than most .
I'm sure we will be fine ... but what about are kids if you have them even if you don't what do yousee for us in let's say 50 yr. 100yr. that alot of time for thing to happen look at what has in the past 1000 and then look again
There's a storm abrewin pa we better get there horses in before itgethere
ha ha and that ant funny !
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tcob247 said...
you know what goofy
I really try to read your stuff, but after a couple of sentences I just give up
If you could just speak a few words of eglish it would help
All I did was ask you a simple question
(which you failed to answer)
Here goes again....
Are
you
a
dorean
client?
Here you go Tin Cup is this up to your standard's and speed for a passing grade?
You know how much I need to have your approval and praise because with out it I don't think i could get through the day.
Hey Tinny Boy if your having a hard time reading my post than do the following
1. Take your thumb out of your mouth and insert it deep up your fat ass, then remove and reinsert back in to your mouth. (this should taste like shit at this point) if repeat as many times as needed to get the Shit Taste result's.
Once you have done this correctly and can move on to the next step.
2. Now take your other thumb and follow the direction from step 1.
You are looking for the same result's as before.
When you have complete these two step's you are ready for the final step and the end of your lesson.
(remember to alternate thumb's as you go this is very important and must be done with no destraction's)
Now if you have done everything correct as instructed than you are ready to go on.
3. You will need to get some help if you have trouble this part of the proccess.
Your going place yourself infront of your monitor in a way so you can see clearly. Then you need to get a pillow and place on the floor in this spot. After you have done yhis take your head and place it on the pillow with your face looking at the computer monitor (Not the wall Stupid!)
O.k with your self in the right postion you can resume step 1&2.
At this point you should be read the post of your choose and understanding the content.
The Shit taste in your mouth should correct any trouble you are have understanding any of the post. If this is not the case you are not doing step's 1&2 at a speed that is needed so increse your hand to ass speed till you are happy with resultes.
NOW ALL DONE CORRECTLY YOU SHOULD HAVE A STRONG TASTE OF SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH.
THIS IS SHOULD BE COUPLED BY A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ......
THE REST OF US FEEL WHEN WE READ YOUR BULL SHIT!!!!!
Now keep these instruction's close by incase you have trouble in the future understanding how you should not be pointing finger's ate other's when your mouth's is full of shit!
You asked if I was a Client, Why?
What dose that have to do with anything?
You have asked this many times and it seems to me that you are after something in doing so what is it that your after?
TIN COP, COP, COP,
What make you think that I would tell you anything about anything?
All you do on here is to disrupt and when you get back into a cornner you run or twist the toipic to suit your aggenda witch is very clear what that is you have to be a Goverment plant or your just stupid beyond beleif.
Witch one is it?
All let you pick!
When you keep your word and do what you say your going to do, Thats when I'll think about answering one of your question. Intill then ...
Shut you pie hole!
Habakkuk
Please Stop Overloading TACOs Brain!
He cant take much more. Hes about to blow!
I just signed Solvo to a three year rapping contract!
Rapper's Delight anyone?
Thank you Solvo! My money is well spent!
willtofight said....
"Habakkuk
Please Stop Overloading TACOs Brain!
He cant take much more. Hes about to blow! "
Just when i thought he was ready to graduate from Banking Fraud 101 he says something real dumb like:
"last i saw kurt and scott are still in jail"
SO....HOW DOES THAT PROOVE YOUR POINT TACO?? Needless to say I had to demote him to mortgage 01 (for children with "special" learning needs)....We talk V E R Y
S L O W in that class.
Hopefully we can get him up to the level of the rest of the children before the break when the other advanced kids will be out playing with their atm cards;)
hey Hab & willing
Did you notice how Tin Cop never answers anything?
it's always just a ??? for an answer.
It would be nice if he did one thing he said he was going to do.
He is forever asking the ?? about who's a client or not.
One last thing I'm sure that you have notice that SEEn nothing yett & justanass arn't posting as much now that Tin Cop is who want's to bet he is one of them.
I sweer he could not leave this blog to save his life.
watch what he dose now!
d;^)>= Piece \/
Ok taco, i'll stop pickin on ya.
Hey SOP,
What ever happened to that ship that was docked on the gulf near Texas?....It was carrying that suitcase nuke that was supposed to detinate yesterday. Oh well, i guess i should thank the Lord we're still hear.
On a much more serious note.....i want to share this with the dorean audience (supporters and naysayers). Its a small part of an article about the significance of the Passover. Its so relevant to our situation:
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"The people (israelites) immediately accused Moses of only aggravating their condition. Be careful not to place unnecessary blame on those who are trying to help you break free. "And they did not listen to Moses, due to their crushed spirits (becasue of the delay) and hard work." (Exodus 6:9) It was just as difficult for Moses to convince the Israelites (dorean clients) of God's word as it was to convince Pharaoh (the banks). He was assigned to not only inform the people but also to educate them on what it meant to come out and cross over and be redeemed. Therefore, they had to prepare themselves for their redemption. That is what Passover is about. "
That realy jumped out at me because i feel this waiting period has been a preparation for me and my family to come out from under this bondage (mortgage). I didnt post this to aggitate the naysayers....i just think its important to note as we are right in the middle of PASSOVER. I honestly pray we all become FREE soon. Spirituall and Phsically.
(By the way, i inserted the dorean references....anyone else see the parallel?)
The Passover article is found at:
http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/3987
Enjoy!
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