Thursday, October 26, 2006
Mail Delays
There are more blog messages to come however there seems to be a serious problem between the BOP and the US Post Office because it is taking weeks to receive mail which normally only takes a few days. Scott says, they are turning the screws, however, they’re behavior is predictable. Continue to pray, we are near the end.
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US PO--agency of the US DEPT. OF THE TREASURY
US DEPT OF TREASURY HQ LOCATION-PUERTO RICO
go figure????
Didn't someone years ago say the answer to all this process was in Puerto Rico? Wasn't that the swami? That guy is a genius! Ms. Cleo has nothing on the swami.
LONG LIVE THE SWAMI!
Come out and tell us swami how you knew this over two years ago.
it may actually not be the BOP slowing things down....
I just saw on the news that there is picketing, work slowdowns going on at various POs due to a coming consolidation (loss) of some PO jobs
form what i have seen, a possible strike looms in the PO.
I certify that this story is true and accurate description of what I have just seen on the news.
/S/ Son of a Prophet
U.S. READY TO STRIKE!?
the salvation page was a hyperlink that obviously did not transfer to the text message.
sorry!
Konfused Kurt said....
"suddenly and in an instant like Greg Anderson Barry Bonds friend who just got a surprise exit."
There is a slight disparity between being in jail for refusing to testify or contempt of court and bank, mail, and wire fraud, kurt, so don't konfuse the two.
Any truth to the offer you and Scott received and denied at the settlement hearing, of 20 years for you and 15 years for Scott?
TO ALL OF YOU THAT SEEM TO WANT TO BLAME YOUR TROUBLES IN LIFE ON SOMEONE ELSE.
You who have taken the side that of this court case being about how you were scamed and that these guy's should be put away for 20 to 30 years,witch by the way is more time than we give someone for killing another in this country.
First off you should have all of your right taken from you to make any life changing decision do to the fact that you can't take responcability for them.
It is such bull shit to hear you all siyying on the sidelines waiting for what seems to be the equil to the rope snap at a hanging. This being your needed comfort for the choose you made free willed mind you to get into this program in the first place but now you want to say that you were scamed.
Where is it that you were scamed? all I see is that your a cry baby when things don't work out as you had hoped. So the fuck what! that this group said that it was something that had be done 100 time's dose that mean to say that you should not take time to find out if that is true or not? my answer to that NO! as in any other BIG life changing decision you would make DO THE FUCKING FOOTWORK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE AND QUIT BLAMING ALL OF YOUR POOR CHOOSES ON SOME ONE ELSE IT'S JUST DOWN RIGHT PATHETIC!
aS I SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR RIGHTS STRIPED FROM YOU TO MAKE ANY MORE decision if that is your stand on this whole thing.
Stand up for a change and take the responcability you have. If in fact there is any wrong doing then it will come out and be see but that dose not take away the fact that you made the free willed decision to get involved in this and you didso in hope's of what?
Let me ask that again YOU MADE THE CHOOSE TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS IN HOPE'S OF WHAT?
WAS IT TO GET OUT OF PAYING FOR YOUR MORTGAGAE?
WAS IT TO SOME HOW SAVE A SINKING SHIP YOU HAD GOT YOUR SELF INTO?
WERE YOU OVER YOUR HEAD IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH NO CHANCE AND WANTED TO PIN THE BLAME ON SOMEONE ELSE FOR IT?
OR WERE YOUUUU JUST SIMPLEY LOOKING TO SCAM? WITH THE HELP OF OTHER THAT HAD THE KNOWLAGE YOU LACKED?
OR WAS IT JUST THAT YOUR LACKING THE KNOWLAGE TO KNOW WHAT WAS A GOOD THOUGHT OUT CHOSE AND WHAT WAS SOMEONE JUST CLOSING THERE EYES, JUMPING AND HOPING FOR THE BEST THAT THE 3500 TO WHATEVER YOU PAID WAS GOING TO BE THERE TO CATCH YOU?
YOU AND ANY THAT FALL IN THESE LINES WHEN IT COME'S TO THIS WHOLE THING SHOULD TAKE YOUR PEA BRAINED CANDY ASSES AND SHUT UP ALREADY
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH i SAT HERE FOR ALMOST TWO YEAR AND HEARD NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF CRY BABYS. ALL FOR THE THE FACT THAT YOU DID'T DO WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU MADE THE LEAP INTO THIS. THAT BEING ONCE AGAIN THE FOOT WORK TO CHECK OUT A FEW THINGS ON WHEATHER THE TRUTH WAS TOLD YOU OR IN FACT WHEATHER OR NOT THIS WAS GOING TO INVOLVE SOME WORK AND MIGHT NOT BE AN EASY ROAD TO TRAVEL.
YOU KNOW HAVE THE BALLS TO WITHSTAND THE OTHER SIDE NOT JUST LAYING DOWN ANDROLLING OVER WHEN IT CAME TO GIVEING UP ALL THAT MONEY THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING BY THERE FRAUD.
FRAUD IT WAS THEN AND STILL IS NOW THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGE IS THAT THEY NOW KNOW THAT OTHERS KNOW AND THEY ARE WORKING TO PLUG THAT HOLE AS YOU CRY ABOUT YOUR POOR ME'S
THEY WIN YOU KNOW WHY EVERYONE ?
BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS NOW FULL SPINELESS KNOWLAGE LACKING CRYBABIES THAT COULD'NT FIND A GOOD CAUSE LET ALONE FIGHT ONE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STRIPING YOU OF YOUR RIGHTS AND ALL THEY CAN ARE THE ONE'S THAT WILL WIN HERE ... THAT'S RIGHT THEY WILL WIN WHY WOULD'NT THEY WITH THE GROUP I SEE HERE THEY HAVE IT EASY....
PUSSY'S EITHER GET UP AND FIND SOMETHING TO GO MAKE IT BETTER OR SHUT UP AND BEND OVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE'NT SEE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT'S ABOUT TO START FUCKING YOU NOW.
YOU ARE AMOUNG THE GROUP I WOULD SAY THAT WILL FOLLOW RIGHT LIKE THEY WANT AND DO WHAT THEY SAY.
RIGHT CUZ YOU WERE SCAMED WER'NT YOU POOR POOOR YOU DON'T FORGET TO GET HELP TIEING YOUR SHOE SO YOU CAN BLAME SOMNEONE WHEN YOU FALL DOWN OKY DOKY LITTLE.
oHHHHHH I HAVE NEVER IN ALL MY DAY'S THOUTH THAT I WOULD SEE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY BE SUCH A BUNCH OF PUSSY'EEEES WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO HAVE EVERYYTHING HANDED TO YOU ALL OF YOUR LIFE OR CAN'T YOU COME UP WITH WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND UP FOR YOUR DECISION?
ONE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WAS IT THAT SOMEONE TWISTED YOUARM TO DO THIS AS IN ANYOTHER THING YOU SEE EVERYDAY THAT YOU CAN DO OR NOT DO SOME HAVE MADE CLAIMS THAT ARE NOT TRUE SO WAHT YOU STILL HAVE A BRAIN DON'T YOU CAN YOU NOT USE IT OR WHAT?
GOOD DAY!
Just make sure that your not standing near cause iI would'nt want you to get locked up do to you stink, you know that EPA these days they just might have a case with the group of todays courts.
it's not so hard to see that these guy's wer'nt out to scam anyone all's you have to do is open your eyes
the only thing I hear from the ones that keep saying they were is "but they did'nt tell the truth about how many they had done before hand"
oh my what a crime that is and so they should be locked up for 20-30years oh ya that seems to be fitting for tghe crime.
all in all the banks can kiss my ass with all the telling the truth crap cuzz.. I have heard more lies from them and there brokers than anyone in my life. so why arn't you out yelling at them to get 20-30 years just ask me and I post all sorts of lies that the banks and the brokers have told me that have cost me hundereds of thousands of dollars but i see no one jumping up and down about that no they get all uppity when some group tries to go get some of it back.
Boy if this group was backing our forefathers we would be singing "oh mother England" for a peram that for sure
heres a tissue now go blow already i can't stand the sight of you any more cry baby
l8r
if you feel the need plz post any and all your off the topic comments and side stepping so knowone see the truth postings all you would like if your thinking is along those lines than your nothing more than the banker you protect so worthless isn so many woeds.
best one yet: govt. says people waste too much gasoling in their cars beacusse they are overweight!!!!
lolololololololo...........
this what they go waste you tax dollars fo??? heheheheheeeee.....
good ol' gub.....
what? to save gas, gub will make everybody overweight go on forced diets into concetration camps or they will lose they license.
govt. run amok? NAW....CANT HAPPEN HERE.
with all the probs in the world, what jeenyis come up wiith this study and what idiot gub. agency pay for it???
jeff_foxworthy said...
You might be a redneck, if you read, write, and think like this moron "KYHOOYA
Oh... Well now that you say it that way... I see how wrong I have been and my thinking it's way out of line I can't tell you how much I do thank you Jeff foxworthlessly I don't no how I got along with out you all this time.
I wish I could know what someone think's like you do and boy what I could do with that nnot to mention that having the power to know how some one reads too. such powerful insight you have I will try to do better and all that there Mr. Jeff Foxworthless Cuz I would like to some day grow up and be jussst like you. Your my hear-no-mo and boy I wonder if you could do me a great big favor your jefferness. Being so humble and all with that kinda ture insight to other I was just wondering if you new what I was THINKING RIGHT NOW! I bet you do...! don't you?
CUZ your a redneck if : you mow the lawn and find that you did'nt use enough of that grain alcohol AT THE "BURN A BOOK BE A FREE THINKER" Bonfire & WENNIE ROAST last year.
yOUR A REDNECK IF: your wallet has the same chain you used to lock up you r wife from running away.
Your a redneck if: You looked up your family tree and found it only had one BRANCH but it never crossed your mindlessness that that was strange.
Your a redneck if: you used the same home brew that you used on those books to get your wife to say Idowew when you went to vagas.
Your a red dicked ass hole if: you find youre self with the mindnumming thoughts of a pill bug and don't no why they don't lower the aged to get hitch in all the states.
And ending with YOUR A RED NEEDELNOSE DICKLESS WONDER WHO SHOULD GO WIPE HIS LITTLE CRYBABY ASS BEFORE HIM GET HIS SELF ALL WORKED UP FROM HIS LACKING WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND UP FOR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF WINNING ABOUT IT AND TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON SOMEONE OR THING ELSE.
bUT HEY THANK'S FOR POINTING OUT THINGS ABOUT ME THAT YOU FIND WRONG! HAHAHAHA! WHAT A JERK AND SO EXPECTED OH YOU MIND READER GET IT READER HAHAHA LET ME NO WHAT i'M THINKING NOW YOU MUST KNOW RIGHT ?
TWITTTTTT! WHY DON'T YOU GO SEE IF THERE IS SOME ROOM AT THE HITLER WORK SHOP ON HOW TO BE A DICK -TA-TORE
I BET THAT NOT ANYONE OF YOU CRYBABIES CAN COME UP WITH THREE GOOD ,REAL SUPPORTED BY FACTS AND LOGIC THINGS THAT SHOW THAT THESE TWO GUY'S HAD THE INTENTION OF RIPPING PEOPLE OFF WITH THIS SO CALLED INTERNET SCAM. ANY TAKERS?
IF ALL YOU CRYBABIES ARE UP TO IT & CAN POST THE FACTS AND NOT MADE UP WISHES OR WHAT THEY THINK IS THE TRUTH.
SO IF ANYONE IS UP TO THE CHALLANGE HERE IT IS .I'LL POST ONE FOR ONE HOW THE BANKS AND THEIR BROKERS KNOWINGLY AND WITH AGGRESIVE MARKETING LIE AND CHEAT CUSTOMERS EVERYDAY AND DO SO WITH THE INTENT TO PROFIT FROM IT.
SO HERES A CHANCE FOR ALL THE BIG MOUTH TALKERS TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
I KNOW THAT THE PLANTS ON HERE WON'T SHUT UP EVEN WHEN FACED WITH FACTS THAT SHOW WHAT I 'M SAYING TO BETHE TRUTH AND THAT THESE TWO GUY'S HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS AND STILL HAV'NT GONE TO TRIAL AS IN THAT LITTLE THING CALLED THEIR RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL AND FARE AND EQUIL TREATMENT.
SO LET'S ROCK! I CAN BACK MY SHIT UP HOW ABOUT YOU?
MY TAKE ON WHAT I HAVE READ AND SEEN IS THAT WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME FORM OF UNDERHANDED AND OUT OF THE NORMAL RELM OF LAW THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT SHOW'S THAT THESE GUY'S WERE OUT TO DO MORE THAN HIT THE BANKS WHERE IT COULD HURT AND WOULD SHOW TO OTHERS THAT THEIR BUSINESS DEALING WERE LESS THAN WHAT THEY LIKE TO CALL "HERE TO HELP WITH ALL YOU HOME LOOAN NEEDS"
HEY I'M STILL WILLING TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE THAT SHOWS I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS. SHOULD BE EASY FOR YOU ALL TO COME UP WITH THREE THING THAT ARE BACKED UP SHOWING THEIR BAD INTENTIONS RIGHT?
LETS GO
OH LET ME CLEAR THIS ONE UP FOR YOU RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN GET TO THE HEART OF THIS AND NOT STALL ON BULL SHIT TO DIVERT US O.K.
THE FACT THAT THE PROGRAM WAS MARKETED TO THE PUBLIC AS ATRIED AND TRUE PROCESS OF 100 OR MORE SUCSESS STORIES IS BAD AMRKETING AND I WILL NOT SAY ANY THING TO FIGHT THAT FACT BUT WITH THAT SAID I WILL PUT BESIDE IT THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE BANK AND THEIR ADDS LIKE " YOUR PRE-APROVED , OR THE MANY OTHER WAYS THAT THEY LIE TO GET YOU TO SIGN ON WITH THEM. I HAVE A BAG THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE FROM (MIRRICAL ON 54 STREET) ONLY FILLED WITH THESE ADDS NOT LETTERS TO SANTA CLAWS. THAT FOR SURE AND IN THEM THEIR IS MORE LIES AND LAW BREAKING ALONG WITH IT THA I WOULD SAY AND ONE WOULD SAY IT WAS ONE FOR ONE WITH THE BANKS GETTING THE BETTER PART OF THAT DEAL I'M SURE .
SO NOW BRING IT TO THE TABLE AND LET'S GET ON WITH THIS . I MEAN WE ONLY HAVE ..WHAT.? 79 MORE DAYS INTILL THEIR SPEEDY TRIAL DATE IN JAN.2007 RIGHT SO GET MOVING.
FACTS ABOUT THE INTENTIONAL WRONG DOING THE TWO DID OR CAUSED TO HAPPEN THAT SHOW THEIR WAS A SCAM AT THE ROOT AS ALL HAVE SAID ON HERE FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF NOW BUT THATS WHAT I SAY IT IS NOTHING BUT TALK NO BACKING.
cOME ON WHERE IS ALL THE BIG MOUTHS TODAY I HAVE A BOX OF KLENEX FOR THE CRYBABIES SO NO RESONE NOT TO POST ALL THOSE FACT THAT SHOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS REAL OUT RIGHT THEIVEN AND WHAT'S JUST OUT RIGHT PROPAGANDA.
HERE WANT SOME HELP I'LL GET YOU STARTED HOW ABOUT THE MONEY RIGHT THEY TOOK ALL THAT MONEY AND HAVE IT UNDER THEIR BED SO WHEN IT'S ALL OVER THE'LL BE LIVING THE GOOD LIFE RIGHT? COME ON WHERES YOUR FACT FILLED PITCH FORK TO SHOW ABOUT THAT IT SHOULD BE A SLAM DUNK FOR YOU TO PUT THAT ONE U. I MEAN WHAT COULD I HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT WAS'NT WRONG RIGHT? YOU SOULD GO FOR IT THATS WHEREI WOULD START. HA LOL JUST THE FACT MAM JUST THE FACT YOU KNOW OLD FRIDAY DID'NT HAVE MUCH OF A FUNNY BONE NOW DID HE.
COME ...ON .. .LET'S ROCK! I'M IN THE MOOD FOR SOME GOOD OLD FACT FILLED SLAM DOWN!
BRING IT ON! WHAT,ARE YOU ALL CHOCKED UP WITH TEARS... I TOLD YOU I HAVE SOME TISSUES FOR YOU CAYBABY! YOU HAVE BEEN CRYING HOW YOUR WERE TAKEN BY THIS PROCESS AND HOW YOU LOST EVERYTHING DO TO THE GUY'S ACTIONS AND IF IT WAS'NT FOR THEIR VEREY CLEVER SCAM THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE IN THE SHAPE Y0UR IN TODAY. HOW THEY MUST HAVE SOME KINDA MIND RAY THAT TOOK CONTROL OF YOU EVERYDAY COMMON LOGIC AND THEN TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAVE NO CHOSE BUT TO DO WHAT THEY SAY.
OR IS IT THEM THAT HAD THE MIND-RAY OR WAS IT THE... WHO DO?
COME ON.... ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT. THAT WILL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO THINK OF SOMETHING RIGHT?
COME ON YOU BUNCH OF PUSSIES! LET'S HEAR THE FACTS NOT ANY OTHER BULLSHIT JUST THE THREE THINGS THAT SHOW HOW THESE GUY'S WERE OUT TO INTENTIONALY SCREW EVERYONE FROM THE START AND HOW THE HOLE THING WAS SET UP AS SOME GIANT SCALE PLAN TO.... WELL I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU I DON'T WANT TO SILL ALL THE BEANS NOW BEFOR YOU GET YOUR TURN. SO HERE YA GO THE FLOORS ALL LYOUR LET 'S HEAR FROM THAT MOUTH THAT RUNS OFF SO MUCH AND DON'T FORGET TO BRING ALLL YOUR POSTING NAMES TO HELP SO WE CAN GET THIS DONEALL AT ONE TIME
K... GREAT THEN....WITH THAT SAID
"I'LL BE BACK SO YOU BETTER BE READY TO STAND UP AND FIGHT NOT CRY YOU WEAK PUNNY LITTLE GIRLY MEN"
THE TRUTH-A-NTOR HAHA
I SWEAR IT'S NOT A TUOMA IT NOT! HA HA
L8R
dgwondering said...
KY - get some professional help. Your mind is gone.
6:48 PM
right ... I'lll get on that as so as you can show me three , two thing that are facts and not made-up or twisted thaat say that Kurt & Scott were do all this as a scam and to screw people was there goal. because I can show you where all thses banks and brokers are. So how about it big mouth? or are you just another one of those who want to blame all your problems on someone else?
I see there are so many that are up for the challange here to prove once and for all but tey can't not and tell the truth that is.
THE BANKS ARE THE CROOKS AND ALL OF THE POEPLE WHO TURN TAIL AND RAN TO THEM AT THE FIRST SIGN OF TROUBLE ARE DOING JUST WHAT THEY WANT. THERE IS NO INTENT TO SCREW ANYONE OTHER THAN THE BANKS THAT HAVE IT COME FOR DOING IT TO US.
i JUST READ A YERM FOR MY SEARS CARD THAT IS NOW cITI BANK OWNED AND IN IT IT TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE CHANGING THE AGREEMENT TO READ THATT IF i AM LATE, ,GO OVERMY LIMIT,OR HAVE A RETURN CHECK ON ANY ACCT. I HAVE NOT JUST THIS ONE THE SAY THEY CAN RAISE MY RATE TO THERE GEFAULT RATE OF WHAT IN SEPTEMBER READ TO BE 30.40% AND BREAKS DOWN TO 22.? +PRIME .
WHAT AN JOKE BUT THAS NOT THE BEST PART i HAVE THE CHOSE TO OPT. OUT RIGHT ? BUT i HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE oCT 4 OR i DEEM TO AGGREE TO THEIR NEW TERMS AND WILL BE BOND TO PAY THEM A RATE OF 30.40% IF i WANT TO OPT OUT NOW.
oH YOU BET i BETTER GET MY BIG BOOK OF SORRIES OUT TO GIVE TO THE BANKS FOR EVER THINKING OF GET BACK AT THEM.
THEY ARE SO NICE TO DO BUSINESS WITH i DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS EVER THINKING.
THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN SOMEONE THAT HOLDS A GUN AT YOU THAT IS IT LOOK HOW THEY WANT TO PUT THE SCREWS TO ANYONE THAT EVEN HAS A BANK CHECK THAT IS RETURNED.
tELL ME SHOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT MY RATE GOING UP TO 30.40% ON MY CITIBANK CARDS NOW BECAUSE I JUST SAW THAT THE PAYMENT I MADE FOR MY MORTGAGE WAS REURNED ??
IT WAS'NT MY FAULT THE BANK PUT IT THROUGH THE WRONG ACCT AND THAT ONE ALTHOUGH BEING AT THE SAME BANK , DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER IT SO NOW WHAT?
MY GUESS IS I'LL BE SEEING A BIT OF A INCRESS IN MY BILL COME THIS NEXT MONTH OR TWO.
FROM 14% TO 39% WHAT A BUNCH OF NICE BANKERS . THEY ARE'NT OUT TO GET YOU TO FAIL FROM BECAUSE YOU DID'NT START OUT TO HAVE TO MUCH ON YOUR CREDIT ACCT.S BUT NOW THAT THEY HAVE RAISED THE RATE RIFGT IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS GOING TO BE TO MUCH FOR YOU TO HANDLE AND YOU WILL KEEP GETTING MORE & MORE ADDD EVERY MONTH.M IN TILL YOU & I BREAK THAT IS WHAT NICE BANKERS .
THERE IS ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU NEYSAYERS
WHY IS IT THAT THE BANKS WANT TO DO THING LIKE THIS WHEN THEY HAVE TO NO IT WILL BE THE CAUSE OF POEOPLE TO GO BANKRUPT TELL ME THAT?
tHEY JUST SET ME UP AND DID IT WITH THE gOV.'S BACKING ALL THE WAY.
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE LOOK YOUR SELFS IN THE MIRROR AND STILL DEFEND THE BANKS AND COURT THAT HELPS THEM DO THIS . IF THIS WAS TIMES LONG AGO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN HUNG FOR THIS CRIME.
i'LL WAIT
I DON'T SEE THAT ANYONE HAS THE PROOF TO SHOW THAT WHAT I SAID ABOUT THERE BEING NO REAL FACTS ABOUT HOW THESE GUYS WERE OUT TO SCAM. THAT THEY WERE INTENDING TO DO ANYTHING MORE THANSTICK IT TO THE BANKS THAT ARE DOING IT TO US EVEYDAY AS SHOWN BY MY LAST POST INFO.
ANYONE THAT CAN SHOW ANY FACTS THAT SAY DIFFERENT ?
STILL HERE WAITING I DON'T SEE IT
i DO SEE TWO GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP FOR ALMOST TWO YEAR AND STILL ARE 78 DAYS LEFT TO GO OR THERE ABOUTS TILL THEY GET THEIR DAY IN COURT UNDER THAT SPEEDY TRIAL RIGHTS THING. NOW HOW DOSE THAT WORK AGAIN 45 DAYS... + THE BANKS -THE UNDERHANDED AND CROOKS FOR A LEGAL SYSTEM AND YOU GET =... RIGHT FUCKED BY THEY GOOD
EVEN WITH GIVING THE COURT THE EXTRA TIME FOR ANY THING THAT kURT HAS FILED THERE IS STILL 78 DAYS TO GO HOW DOSE THAT FIT INTO THE SPEEDY TRIAL OF 45 DAYS OR LET THEM GO LEGAL RIGHT THING?
OH I FORGOT IT'S THE BANKS WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE . THEY GET TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT DON'T THEY
?
PEOPLE LIKE DGWONDERING AND ALL THE REST THAT CAN'T TAKE IT AND OR WANT TO TRY AND SAY EVERYTHING BUT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS PUT OUT THERE AS FACT ARE JUST FULL OF SHIT AND I COULD CARE LESS WHAT SCHOOLING OR OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO POST AS IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN YOU WORKING FOR THE BANKS AND THE CROOKS TO DIVERT FRO THE REAL THING HERE SO GO BLOW YOURSELF AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY CHOSE OF WORDING TUFF I DON'T REALY CARE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT I THINK THAT IT WAS SUPPOSE TO DOTHAT AS INTENTED .
WHY DON'T YOU SHUT ME UP AND SHOW ME WRONG WITH THE ????? i ASKED AND PROOF IT I'LL GO AWAY IF YOU CAN.
SO WHAT 'S YOU GOING TO DO ? PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
BIG MOUTH WHAT A BUNCH OF RUN AT THE FIRST SIGN OF TROUBLE LITTLE LEMMINGS YOU PEOPLE ARE IF I WERE THESE GUY'S I WOULD HAVE FOUND AWAY TO GET OUT AND YOU ALL COULD KISS MY ASSS FOR THE WAY YOU HAVGE ACTED IN THIS. IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT THE BANKS HAVE A WHOLE BIG POT FULL OF PEOLE WILLING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AND THAT THEY WILL ROLL RIGHT OVER ANY LAW'S THAT GET INTO THEIR WAY .
WITH THE BACKING OF THE SCARED LITTLE LEMMINGS FOR WHAT THEY MIGHT DO IF YOU STAND UP.
AND IF SOME ONE WANTS TO ASK HAT I'M DOING TO GET BACK WELL YOUR LOOKING AT SOME OF IT RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU READ . SO ANYONE GOING TO SHUT ME UP AND SHOW ME THE INTENTTO SCAMOR WHAT?
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT NOTHING BECAUSE THERE UIS NOTHING TO SHOW THAT IS NOT A LIE OR TWISTD .
KYHOOYA said...
i JUST READ A TERM FOR MY SEARS CARD THAT IS NOW CITIBANK OWNED AND IN IT IT TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE CHANGING THE AGREEMENT TO READ THAT IF i AM LATE, ,GO OVER MY LIMIT,OR HAVE A RETURN CHECK ON ANY ACCT. I HAVE NOT JUST THIS ONE THE SAY THEY CAN RAISE MY RATE TO THEIR DEFAULT RATE OF WHAT IN SEPTEMBER READ TO BE 30.40% AND BREAKS DOWN TO 22.? +PRIME .
I agree with you Kyhooya 100%. Citibank has entirely too much power and it's only getting worse. They keep taking over the credit side of business for more and more companies.(Sears, Rooms To Go, Ect.) The bad thing about that is you may have never had a late payment or missed payment with a certain company, but once Citibank takes over - your history of ANY Citibank business is now in their database. This means no new credit with certain companies or possibly a higher interest rate with an existing company that you had started with before Citibank ever came into the picture.
There once was a web site called FU*KCITIBANK.com, but it appears to have been bullied off the internet by Citibank lawyers. It told hundreds of horror stories of terrible customer service and stories of people that once worked for Citibank that could not tolerate their "Screw The Public" policy.
Patience my brother. What comes around goes around.
Fake Beavis said...
Didn't someone years ago say the answer to all this process was in Puerto Rico? Wasn't that the swami? That guy is a genius! Ms. Cleo has nothing on the swami.
Beavis I was KIDDING. If somehow the solution to our problem is tied to Puerto Rico, then it is a simple coincidence. Puerto Rico was my dream of having mortgage elimination and topless dancing merge together in a utopian society.
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Now I remember why I don't check out the blog much anymore...
it takes to long to scroll past kyhooya's crap.
The end is near?
Good.
neodemes said...
Now I remember why I don't check out the blog much anymore...
it takes to long to scroll past kyhooya's crap.
The end is near?
Good.
10:58 AM
So who are your? someone special that I or anyone here would care if you "Check out this site" or not.
You think an a lot of yourself don't you?
Screw you two pal!
I see you did'nt bother to come up with anything that say's that the guy's were out to scam anyone.
I think that your just part of the problem lemming so come or go on here and say what you want but that still dos'nt take away the fact that these guy's have been locked up without do process and it's all a big time game that the fedsare doing in their atempt that if a long enough time goes by that the interest in dorean and this whole thing will fade and then they can do what ever they want. you and your group are the one that feed on the feds bullshit hook line and sinker. Hope you don't mind that soon all of the rights that your enjoy at others expence will be gone. If people like you are let to clog the ways of people that are working to stop the this from happening.
so you think your so special that everyone cares what you do? wel so do I. I think your so special you should have your own title so that it make a statement about just how special you are. Let see... What could we call you....? Oh hopw about Sir neo-de`Dippanty Shittorder.
open you eye a see or at best have someone that knows show you what the gov. is doing that is wrong and quit being such a lemming. You know thay have so many ways to get you to beleive them over anyone that might fight them.
As I post before take alook at history and tell me that is was only a strange and odd thing that everyone that has gone up against the FEDS and their lackies that everyone of them has been kill or there was and atempt to do so. Or is that just to much to understand why for you?
heck the Sen. McM whatever his name (can't remember it now) but this guys has been quoted on here and other site for his fighting the feds res. and telling how bad it was for this country. they tried three times to kill him before they had success at it.
Again there big mouth post where there has been some facts and proof that these two were out to scam. I'm all ears to see how it is that all of you that are on here helping the gov and the feds bank to stomp these two are nothing more than the one that will be the cause of the rights of everyone in the country to be lost and what will your kids think when they have to pay the bill for all of are spending that keeps going up & up cuz the feds just keep raising that %%%%%%%.
Oh I almost forgot to say ... Thanks for stoping by it must be a special day for us for you to grace us with you ebdless numbness Sir De`Dipity Shitity. you come back real so now ya hear!
l8r
Why dont you guys take your sub-human vulgarity to another blog.
LOL
If all the vulgar posters left, the blog would be pretty empty.
Not that that would be a bad thing.
KYHOOYA - Read and weep at:
Mortgage Elimination
Seriously, dude, you need a vacation or something.
Life is too short.
Pax
tcob247 said...
Kahooya.............
Neo has a site that documents all you want about Kurt and Scott
Read it sometime
It will be good for you
Here it is:
http://rei-resource.com/rei-forum/index.php
Scroll down to Mortgage Elimination and read away
Been there! Done that!
Now what?
Is it that hard of a question?
I can't seem to get anyone on here to ever answer the dam questions I ask but they always have lots to say about how wrong Dorean & the one's that support it are, alnog with so much more useless rants.
I don't see the problem in what I have asked. It would go to show you that when someone has to go to the great effort to not answer the easy question that I have posted over the past they must be working at it hard cuz it's not that complecated of and issue here. The question that I ask are simple and direct and only leave one answer for there to be given and with that opening the chance of real truth to be seen not just what some want to post and have as fact.
I mean come on it's not that big of a deal, your going to the page, you read and then you post, then take the facts about what you have read and then instead of taking the road that you are expected why not suprise meand not post about anything you find you can twist and turn to look bad and post I mean it not that much of a pain is it, To ask that you post something that is of some real truth and facts or answer some simple little question. Me's thinks is not to much to hope for that just once, maybe you could come up with just a little back bone and show that your not all one sided and can be open to at least try to open your see with your eyes & not have your the chance that your idea about this could be wrong. That is if you are here for any other resone than to distract I would hope that your not just someone that would have the balls, to sit there posting a link or some other b.s. as your responce to the questions.
You know maybe the one sided few your taking is wrong and if you had given the whole thing a real good looking you might have all of the facts and can then .... put ... What am I saying, look who I asking to do anything other than post neg crap or to somehow try and look over their own wreck of a minds idea about even one thing like the banks are screwing us and it's going to hurt when their done if we all don't wake up and do something now!
Well I guess it is to much to hope for.
Thats just so much the expected thing to do why not step out of the box and try something new for a change. How about you give it your best for once and stand up and post the real truth as it is and not all that crap that is pasted in your mind as being right cuz... it ant't hard to see it is all just one sided and that you don't care if there is any truth to it , no0t as long as the PTB say it is the right thing your there buying it.
I you take your link and go jump in the pot cus I hav ebeen there and all I se is some brown noising from some title lawyer to the sites captain I can't be wrong ebeven if I see it right in front of me . The captain has spooken and I am the supper power heren anfd control..ca! Ah.. I mean that i over see this site and play fare and don't try and make any one feel thatthey are not able to speek there mind and get some real thought back about it thas what I'm here for ..oop's I mean were here for.. But as the ruler I must insist that you put all of your question in writing and i will look them over and let you now what i think is stupid and what i say you can post before the royal court wanta-be-a you must first bring them before me and bow to show your going to do as i say with repect.that is !.. then show be by your acts of humbeling your self that you see me sir knight of the REI's and ruler of all I see are you r to be worshiped" ... "Wow holly inflated personel ego's Keymowstslobby I would have never thought tha there could be so much hot air traped in one person" I" know toimeto-going I'm just as supprised as you my hard to under stand but always by.. Keymowstlobby keymowslopby ... What is it toimtogoiny what is it thyat you are trying to say my little under grad form the great school of.... HEt Keymow dillholey You want to cut the crap I just about had it with "little fella B.S. and you turn to ride jack-ass for awile mE notum like tha no mowa.. My word Toimagoi ...oh the hell with it I quit! I can't work with an idiot like that so ther you have another episode of the LOAN STRANGER and his side kick TOINOT A WANTA DO THIS NO MORE TIOME TO GO CUS YOU NOT PAY TOI GOOD. And "High go silver" WEPAY!" that was the end of ols toimewanta oh for get it the little red guy that took all the abuse for the star. m
I don't know what that remind's me of ..... I sure do wish I could think of it .... It's going to bug me all day if I don't ...... any one got an idea of who that inflated gas of a guy my be like cause I just know I have seen the same better than thow b.s. before I just can't put my finger on it.....anyone? maybe it was some site I was on ..? or maybe it... was no thats' stupid it would'nt be ...
? or maybe .... "Oh i know keymo... not tha again lol tell me dose anyone know of a gas bag that sound like they are the king knight of it all let me know if you do I know its going to just bug me all for about 30 seconds and then oh well if you post it wopuld youi ... by
Oh has anyone else other than tin cuppy been to that site what was it ? Re... m oh what- ever! lol lol lol
Ya thanks tin i'll give tha some real thought o.k. i'll just be t your in dimwitt wonderland. say hi to brownee the apple buffer for me. would ya ,.
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one of these day's that ball's is going come flying right of that string and paddle, then watch out cuz who knows what can happen when all's your left with is the paddle... hum? now there some to think about.. or not!
RE: citibank cards or any other...
just because they put in that little paper saying that they can do this or that, it doesnt mean anything.
you originally signed a contract of adhesion and they cannot change it just because they want to.
you have to agree to it.
they have to ask you if you would agree to change it, not just say that if you continue to use the card, you agreee by default.
KYHOOYA sez:
I can't seem to get anyone on here to ever answer the dam questions I ask
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LOL. Dude, that's because no one reads them.
You may have noticed I haven't been on this blog much lately. The reason is I've spent a lot of time and money on a new exercise video that will soon sweep the nation. I've posted a link below to wet your appetite. Happy Gluting!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/278688/these_glutes_are_made_for_walking/
interesting?!
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz2146.htm
above should be
http://www.cuttingedge.org/
news_updates/nz2146.htm
Wanta $4.5 Trillion Still not Turned Over By Bush Administration
According to Michael C. Cottrell, treasurer of Wanta's financial group, money being misued by Bush as $55 million of off-shore money recently sent to North Korea.
28 Oct 2006
By Greg Szymanski
Michael C. Cottrell, treasurer for the Wanta financial group set to repatriate $4.5 trillion into the U.S. economy, said he received documented inside information the Bush administration sent North Korea $55 million the day after it set off a nuclear testing device.
Cottrell's announcement Thursday came as a shock to the world since it previously was thought the U.S. was strongly opposed to North Korea's actions, publicly denouncing the nuclear testing and indicating strong financial sanctions should be imposed.
However, the transfer of money to North Korea, taken from the offshore and off-the books account earmarked for Ambassador Leo Wanta and the American people, shows the real behind the scenes intentions of the Bush administration.
Although publicly the Bush administration castigates North Korean officials for their actions, behind the scenes the $55 million pay off is proof positive the Bush administration is working hand-in-glove with countries like North Korea to promote war not stop it.
"It looks kind of strange, doesn't it," said Cottrell Thursday while appearing as a guest on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal at www.gcnlive.com and www.arcticbeacon.com "We have it from credible sources that $55 million was transferred from the offshore money to North Korea the day after the nuclear testing took place."
Although Cottrell would not speculate on the Bush administration motives while having solid evidence the money was released, other researchers close to the North Korean scene said the $55 million amounts to nothing more than "a pay-off for a job well done."
Cottrell's announcement also provided more evidence the Bush administration was involved in treasonous and duplicitous actions, demonstrating the interests of the American people, as well as its security and stability, were not really Bush's first priority.
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KYHOOYA sez:
I can't seem to get anyone on here to ever answer the dam questions I ask
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LOL. Dude, that's because no one reads them
Judging by your post someone could only come to the realaltion that you must of read my post to be able to have such a responce.
Also someone might have the mind to think that if the above were to be true ,as I beleive it is, then you must be an IDIOT!
NICE POST KEEP THE QUICK WITT COMINLOL
TWIT!
i'LL SEE IF i CAN STOP BY TAT LITTLE SPOT OF A SIYE YOU HAVE THERE SOON. i'MSURE THERE IS LOT'S OF GEAT STUFF LIKE YOUR POST HEAR TO GIVE ME A GOOD LAUGH.
nOW I understand why TinCup the begger thinks so much of your site, he fit's right in with all of the rest of the thinker there .
So don't let me stop you from getting back to that inportant work you have over there. Oh ya! I all most forgotthe good by. "DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT IN THE ASS ON THE WAY!"
The above quote may or may not be Copyinsightment protected 2005-06 Out of respect little if any we withheld the originators name for the obveious, we for got it!
Hey do we get paid for originating that like those brokers do in them loan's or what?
LOL
Keep on talk Neo, Tin Cuppy, Who ever else want's to join you, Cuz every posting is better than the last. Just plain funny, and you say that there are people that take your addvise. Real brave people if you know what I mean?
lol LOL no no more like ROFLMAO That's 4 shore, Now I think I seE your DOOR JUST OPENED , YOU BETTER RUN ALONG NOW BEFORE YOU GET HURT. K.
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Here is one for the numbers. if this guy's is say were in truble then you might want to lisen up people cuz... he would no about money and where it.s goingin this country so take set and give this one a good read , then think about your next move. I would'nt take long to do that cuz... the time to something is now , not later. It would seem like a know brainer but......t as sure as I type this will hear some kinda twist. just read It's important to hear what these guy's like this and hear what their telling us. thing's are going take place in this country that are going to have great impact on us and our kids and change the very way we live and if we don'twant those to be bad we best start find the reins on this out of control ride and pull them in a bit.
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Would it take more than a minute or two to use proper >>>grammer<<< and spelling?
"...grammar and spelling?"
"Our mind is of 3 categories: what we know, what we dont know, and what we dont know we dont know. Not knowing is unfortunate; not knowing that we dont know is tragic."
W. Erhart
"The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about and refuse to investigate."
Dr. Wayne Dyer
tcob247 said...
translation please....
I swear....Am I the only person who has a hard time understanding this guy??????????
Are you sure your IQ is 142 Kahooya?
Would it take more than a minute or two to use proper grammer and spelling?
I'm not saying it has to be perfect, but wow...just a little bit would be a huge improvement
Yes for you "Tin ScupyCup" it would be to much trouble. So blow it out your ass already with all the same old drug out andd road hard lines that you some how think are a form of your quick.. I mean dimwitedness As I said before I never check my posts or reread them. Unless they are included in someone elsees post that is.
My time is to filled up in a day as it is now and , I sorry to say but site and you are not that important to give up one more second more than I do already.
If your that confused Witch we both know are most of the time and this is all about having something to post back and keeping with your " No Positives all Neg." stand on posting here It's understandable that someone of your limited brain power would have a hard time coming up with the quick witted or showed some form of thoughtin your replies, then dont read them.
We both know that the main point of my topics get through just fine. I will admit that there are times when i have little or no time or I have been typing late at nite and take a se`esta in the middle and upon waking have no time to cetch up. But the one ting I do know is that I'mlong winded enough that some where in it all the point I was makeing comes throught. I 'm also aware that at times they must be a jumble of sentances that repeat themselfs or other sure ramblings & rant's but thats the difference between you and me Tin Cup old boy, I don't have a problem in admitting that and moving on unlike you who have your five standered answers and that's it and even worst they all sy pertty much the samething , just different word's.
At least I show's my love of the english lang. and along with that being I already spend way to much time on here as it is. You can read it or not read it, know one is forcing you to.
I don't really care one way or another. We both know what your motive is here when you post stuff like this anyway ````````````````here anyway so big woop at least it's not the same old boring really really old dried up of any substance and totaling lacking one onuce of effort to try and understand that as you say " In Jail" isn't always defined as Wrong as you would have everyone beleive here. You know what they say "Use it, or lose it!" judging from what you put in you post's, I have to believe you have LOST IT! along time ago most likly sitting on it is my guess With know hope of return.
Lets see there was that and what was that other thing you keep harping on in regard to me? Oh that's right it was about my IQ
I don't remember if I had responded to you past post about my IQ so I will now just to make sure.
Yes the 142 is my IQ and if there is ever end to this I would be more than happy to show you the test results.
I don't know why but you do seem to be quite interested in it so don't worry I won't throw it away. In fact if you have my e-mail if you want to e-me your adderess to send it to, I would be more than happy to drop it in a envelope and let you have it. It seem's to mean more to you than it dose myself. Oh and if you don't want to do that then you just have to wait I guess cuz I'm not posting it on hear or e-mailing it do to the fact that it has my personel info on it and being that you would have to have that to know it was me that took the test... Unlike you when I say that I am sending something to back up my claim I do just that, I send real unmistakable documents as proof. You know something like ... oh what could work here ? I know what about something with a Name that matches for starters or anything that would tie it to you. You see that way it might show that your for real. That would be EZ to understand even for you````````````` Einstein Einstein some poor excuse and lame attempt like what you sent me witch I can only take as an insult or that your so stupid that you think someone would fall for that as you pay check.
Ah.. nevermind I don't realy care.
As I said if you want it then send me your postal adderess and I don't care where that is as long as you can sign for the letter thats fine. You'llmost liklyt post that you won't give me your adderess because Blah Blah ... Whatever again really don't care . I have offered up what is a pain in my ass you prove to you what I say is the truth. Nowthats about as far as I go with it and I sure you'll find away to wiggle out of it with some claim of you personal security and such. It won't matter much as I said the truth is the truth and it's is ez to see when someone has nothing more than hot air to back himself up.
You'll have your proof. and then you can look at it all day and dream that with a lot of hard work you might just be able to break a hundered for your IQ. You know anything is possable so they say I don't know when it comes to you .... I guess so.. Not !!
Oh let me just stop you from what I'm sure is going to be anther of your quick witted responce to this question. I will tell you now why i am willing to send it to you in the form of postal mail hard copy, cuz taht way I can place a terms to it and a copyright of sorts to make you responcable if you take it a post it anywhere without my writen consent.
You see there is a way to get someone the real deal truth for proof about what they have boosted and still not put your self at risk . I know that you had already thought of that after you sent me yours by e-mail.
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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order (referring to the 1991 LA Riot). Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger (Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991)
To be honest I don't know why I'm even resonding to you at all. I think I told you this already.
My lack of sleep I must have forgot anyway so you don't feel slighted ... kiss off ass wipe
I don't care what you want ,think ,or post you are worthless and a waste of time like know other so by by now by by by byby o.k. then by byby .. get it try and use some of tha hot ait to blow your self right up on out of here and go learn something before you start saying it's wrong..,
sorry this was suppose to be after my post that
read this or heres
one for the numbers
GAO Chief Warns Economic Disaster Looms
By MATT CRENSON
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - David M. Walker sure talks like he's running for office. ``This is about the future of our country, our kids and grandkids,'' the comptroller general of the United States warns a packed hall at Austin's historic Driskill Hotel. ``We the people have to rise up to make sure things get changed.''
But Walker doesn't want, or need, your vote this November. He already has a job as head of the Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress that audits and evaluates the performance of the federal government.
Basically, that makes Walker the nation's accountant-in-chief. And the accountant-in-chief's professional opinion is that the American public needs to tell Washington it's time to steer the nation off the path to financial ruin.
From the hustings and the airwaves this campaign season, America's political class can be heard debating Capitol Hill sex scandals, the wisdom of the war in Iraq and which party is tougher on terror. Democrats and Republicans talk of cutting taxes to make life easier for the American people.
What they don't talk about is a dirty little secret everyone in Washington knows, or at least should. The vast majority of economists and budget analysts agree: The ship of state is on a disastrous course, and will founder on the reefs of economic disaster if nothing is done to correct it.
There's a good reason politicians don't like to talk about the nation's long-term fiscal prospects. The subject is short on political theatrics and long on complicated economics, scary graphs and very big numbers. It reveals serious problems and offers no easy solutions. Anybody who wanted to deal with it seriously would have to talk about raising taxes and cutting benefits, nasty nostrums that might doom any candidate who prescribed them.
``There's no sexiness to it,'' laments Leita Hart-Fanta, an accountant who has just heard Walker's pitch. She suggests recruiting a trusted celebrity - maybe Oprah - to sell fiscal responsibility to the American people.
Walker doesn't want to make balancing the federal government's books sexy - he just wants to make it politically palatable. He has committed to touring the nation through the 2008 elections, talking to anybody who will listen about the fiscal black hole Washington has dug itself, the ``demographic tsunami'' that will come when the baby boom generation begins retiring and the recklessness of borrowing money from foreign lenders to pay for the operation of the U.S. government.
``He can speak forthrightly and independently because his job is not in jeopardy if he tells the truth,'' said Isabel V. Sawhill, a senior fellow in economic studies at the Brookings Institution.
Walker can talk in public about the nation's impending fiscal crisis because he has one of the most secure jobs in Washington. As comptroller general of the United States - basically, the government's chief accountant - he is serving a 15-year term that runs through 2013.
This year Walker has spoken to the Union League Club of Chicago and the Rotary Club of Atlanta, the Sons of the American Revolution and the World Future Society. But the backbone of his campaign has been the Fiscal Wake-up Tour, a traveling roadshow of economists and budget analysts who share Walker's concern for the nation's budgetary future.
``You can't solve a problem until the majority of the people believe you have a problem that needs to be solved,'' Walker says.
Polls suggest that Americans have only a vague sense of their government's long-term fiscal prospects. When pollsters ask Americans to name the most important problem facing America today - as a CBS News/New York Times poll of 1,131 Americans did in September - issues such as the war in Iraq, terrorism, jobs and the economy are most frequently mentioned. The deficit doesn't even crack the top 10.
Yet on the rare occasions that pollsters ask directly about the deficit, at least some people appear to recognize it as a problem. In a survey of 807 Americans last year by the Pew Center for the People and the Press, 42 percent of respondents said reducing the deficit should be a top priority; another 38 percent said it was important but a lower priority.
So the majority of the public appears to agree with Walker that the deficit is a serious problem, but only when they're made to think about it. Walker's challenge is to get people not just to think about it, but to pressure politicians to make the hard choices that are needed to keep the situation from spiraling out of control.
To show that the looming fiscal crisis is not a partisan issue, he brings along economists and budget analysts from across the political spectrum. In Austin, he's accompanied by Diane Lim Rogers, a liberal economist from the Brookings Institution, and Alison Acosta Fraser, director of the Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
``We all agree on what the choices are and what the numbers are,'' Fraser says.
Their basic message is this: If the United States government conducts business as usual over the next few decades, a national debt that is already $8.5 trillion could reach $46 trillion or more, adjusted for inflation. That's almost as much as the total net worth of every person in America - Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and those Google guys included.
A hole that big could paralyze the U.S. economy; according to some projections, just the interest payments on a debt that big would be as much as all the taxes the government collects today.
And every year that nothing is done about it, Walker says, the problem grows by $2 trillion to $3 trillion.
People who remember Ross Perot's rants in the 1992 presidential election may think of the federal debt as a problem of the past. But it never really went away after Perot made it an issue, it only took a breather. The federal government actually produced a surplus for a few years during the 1990s, thanks to a booming economy and fiscal restraint imposed by laws that were passed early in the decade. And though the federal debt has grown in dollar terms since 2001, it hasn't grown dramatically relative to the size of the economy.
But that's about to change, thanks to the country's three big entitlement programs - Social Security, Medicaid and especially Medicare. Medicaid and Medicare have grown progressively more expensive as the cost of health care has dramatically outpaced inflation over the past 30 years, a trend that is expected to continue for at least another decade or two.
And with the first baby boomers becoming eligible for Social Security in 2008 and for Medicare in 2011, the expenses of those two programs are about to increase dramatically due to demographic pressures. People are also living longer, which makes any program that provides benefits to retirees more expensive.
Medicare already costs four times as much as it did in 1970, measured as a percentage of the nation's gross domestic product. It currently comprises 13 percent of federal spending; by 2030, the Congressional Budget Office projects it will consume nearly a quarter of the budget.
Economists Jagadeesh Gokhale of the American Enterprise Institute and Kent Smetters of the University of Pennsylvania have an even scarier way of looking at Medicare. Their method calculates the program's long-term fiscal shortfall - the annual difference between its dedicated revenues and costs - over time.
By 2030 they calculate Medicare will be about $5 trillion in the hole, measured in 2004 dollars. By 2080, the fiscal imbalance will have risen to $25 trillion. And when you project the gap out to an infinite time horizon, it reaches $60 trillion.
Medicare so dominates the nation's fiscal future that some economists believe health care reform, rather than budget measures, is the best way to attack the problem.
``Obviously health care is a mess,'' says Dean Baker, a liberal economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a Washington think tank. ``No one's been willing to touch it, but that's what I see as front and center.''
Social Security is a much less serious problem. The program currently pays for itself with a 12.4 percent payroll tax, and even produces a surplus that the government raids every year to pay other bills. But Social Security will begin to run deficits during the next century, and ultimately would need an infusion of $8 trillion if the government planned to keep its promises to every beneficiary.
Calculations by Boston University economist Lawrence Kotlikoff indicate that closing those gaps - $8 trillion for Social Security, many times that for Medicare - and paying off the existing deficit would require either an immediate doubling of personal and corporate income taxes, a two-thirds cut in Social Security and Medicare benefits, or some combination of the two.
Why is America so fiscally unprepared for the next century? Like many of its citizens, the United States has spent the last few years racking up debt instead of saving for the future. Foreign lenders - primarily the central banks of China, Japan and other big U.S. trading partners - have been eager to lend the government money at low interest rates, making the current $8.5-trillion deficit about as painful as a big balance on a zero-percent credit card.
In her part of the fiscal wake-up tour presentation, Rogers tries to explain why that's a bad thing. For one thing, even when rates are low a bigger deficit means a greater portion of each tax dollar goes to interest payments rather than useful programs. And because foreigners now hold so much of the federal government's debt, those interest payments increasingly go overseas rather than to U.S. investors.
More serious is the possibility that foreign lenders might lose their enthusiasm for lending money to the United States. Because treasury bills are sold at auction, that would mean paying higher interest rates in the future. And it wouldn't just be the government's problem. All interest rates would rise, making mortgages, car payments and student loans costlier, too.
A modest rise in interest rates wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, Rogers said. America's consumers have as much of a borrowing problem as their government does, so higher rates could moderate overconsumption and encourage consumer saving. But a big jump in interest rates could cause economic catastrophe. Some economists even predict the government would resort to printing money to pay off its debt, a risky strategy that could lead to runaway inflation.
Macroeconomic meltdown is probably preventable, says Anjan Thakor, a professor of finance at Washington University in St. Louis. But to keep it at bay, he said, the government is essentially going to have to renegotiate some of the promises it has made to its citizens, probably by some combination of tax increases and benefit cuts.
But there's no way to avoid what Rogers considers the worst result of racking up a big deficit - the outrage of making our children and grandchildren repay the debts of their elders.
``It's an unfair burden for future generations,'' she says.
You'd think young people would be riled up over this issue, since they're the ones who will foot the bill when they're out in the working world. But students take more interest in issues like the Iraq war and gay marriage than the federal government's finances, says Emma Vernon, a member of the University of Texas Young Democrats.
``It's not something that can fire people up,'' she says.
The current political climate doesn't help. Washington tends to keep its fiscal house in better order when one party controls Congress and the other is in the White House, says Sawhill.
``It's kind of a paradoxical result. Your commonsense logic would tell you if one party is in control of everything they should be able to take action,'' Sawhill says.
But the last six years of Republican rule have produced tax cuts, record spending increases and a Medicare prescription drug plan that has been widely criticized as fiscally unsound. When President Clinton faced a Republican Congress during the 1990s, spending limits and other legislative tools helped produce a surplus.
So maybe a solution is at hand.
``We're likely to have at least partially divided government again,'' Sawhill said, referring to predictions that the Democrats will capture the House, and possibly the Senate, in next month's elections.
But Walker isn't optimistic that the government will be able to tackle its fiscal challenges so soon.
``Realistically what we hope to accomplish through the fiscal wake-up tour is ensure that any serious candidate for the presidency in 2008 will be forced to deal with the issue,'' he says. ``The best we're going to get in the next couple of years is to slow the bleeding.''
10/28/06 21:32 © Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.
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