At the end of the year you found us relying on the words of a prophecy that promised our release. Obviously this did not happen and I’m not offering a clear exclamation as to the reasons why. What I can offer you is how the Lord used that situation which did make a lot of sense to me. One of the greatest mistakes I think we make as Christians is trying to box God into the black and white reason of our intellect. This is expressed in simple terms like the prophet is false, I don’t hear God’s voice, God is not able to keep either within His will, or the thousand variations of this thought. I even wrangled with them. This is really what the book of Job discusses plainly. Job knows God’s ways and has diligently followed them. In his disaster he still sees God supreme but is confused by motives that don’t register with his reason. He proclaims what he knows and continues to trust this even though the picture no longer makes sense. That was the great character of Job that God was honoring. His friends were stuck in the same rut of God punishes evil meaning Job’s professions of innocence were further evidence of his evil. All were blind to what God was doing until He chose to reveal it. These were not men seeking evil but men who revered God missing the mark.
When I tried to make sense of my confusion I went to the word. Two men I admire as greater than I are Abraham and Paul. Did they ever find themselves where I was and how did it get resolved. Paul was taught by Christ 3 years in the Arabian Desert. If he erred why wouldn’t I? Paul always taught, spoke, and believed in the Lord’s return imminently but 2000 years have passed. Why did God allow this error? His teaching which I rely upon now would probably not have come if he didn’t have a sense of urgency that the people understand and know the signs of His coming. If he had known of the delay he would have focused on the more pressing issues of the time. The effect of his ignorance is God’s will accomplish and blessing for many. Just like Job. Is God cruel to use men this way? Certainly not! I knew I was obeying God and tracking on His intentions for me but His plans in this exercise were clearly outside my revelation of His ways. This is why I harp on faith and obedience so much. Though it appears risky because we are confused this is how we are expanded into the vastness of a God that is supreme over us. It is an evil temptation to create a God of our reason. You see it here on this blog where simpletons profess themselves wise by being the reasonable mouthpiece of God. God never being able to fit into their box never will.
Next I look at Abraham. At the burning bush incident with Moses God identifies Himself as the God of Abraham a stellar sanction worthy of regard. Then I noticed in Exodus 6:2-3 that the I AM God had not revealed Himself to Abraham. Meaning Abraham was blessed, faithful, obedient and still ignorant of his God. I went to that confusing part of Abraham’s life where he was commanded to kill Isaac. Here I will add that the book of Jasher (The upright record) has a lot more detail on this story that is helpful. Abraham knows that the promise is through Isaac and no one else. He also knows that God abhors human sacrifice because he left the culture of Nimrod who practiced this. Now he gets the unthinkable, irreconcilable, unreasonable request to sacrifice Isaac. God is up to something but Abraham is ignorant as to what it could be. This does not preclude him from responding in faithful obedience nor does it preclude us. Contrariwise it really is a call all the more to press into trust because if what we know is true we are still safe and God is showing Himself greater than His creation once again. Abraham made his faith proclamation in Genesis 22:5 that he and the boy will go worship and be back. He had no idea how but he knew what he knew about God, the promise and the call to worship, which is a cognate of worth-ship. He knew God’s greatness was His worth-ship and his confusion was evidence of this not contrary proof. The burnt offering was the most senseless offerings from a reasonable point of view but symbolic of the truest form of worship. God gets everything, nothing left for this world. The life of this world completely consumed for the benefit of God. Christ Himself being the perfect consummation of this symbol and is why it is the faith of Christ that saves. Abraham has Isaac bound on the alter. We must even bind our promises to the use of God. Now he raises the knife willing to slay the gift for love and trust of the giver. Here’s what caught my attention. God stops Abraham and turns his eyes to a new revelation, the ram caught in the thickets by its horns. In Jasher you find out that God sent the ram charging towards Abraham but the devil trapped it into the thickets. Abraham for the first time discovers Jehovah-Jireh the providing God. God had always provided for Abraham but it was this test that brought that revelation to heart. Would the revelation arrive without the confusing test? Who is to know but it did arrive with the test.
More things I was able to glean. First God shows His nature by sending His provision His blessing charging towards us. Christ again is the perfect picture of this. The devil throws in the thickets to throw off the timing of arrival. This tempts us to bring a charge against God. I always joke the only thing I think God needs that I can give Him is a clock. His timing always seems off. Maybe not! The ram’s horn was also a shofar blown as a call to worship. Worship was leading the charge of blessing and we can certainly see this in Abraham’s actions, Christ’s actions, how about yours? The thickets then were not only to delay the timing but to smother the worship. When the prophecy did not come to pass and I was certain of my hearing and their speaking being of God this was the great temptation within me to stifle worship. Fortunately for me the discipline of pressing into God in my confusion turned my eyes to His revelatory provision. What of you? Dorean has taken a wild turn perhaps making you question whether you truly heard God’s voice. Have you allowed the delay and confusion to tempt you into complaint instead of worship? God is in charge. God is wiser than your understanding. Like Job when I understand nothing I know this that my redeemer lives. (Job 19:25-26) Zechariah in 11:3 when discussing those who appose the blessing “Listen, the roar of the lions for the thickets of the Jordan are destroyed.” The Jordan was a barrier to the promise like the thickets but faith with worship puts an end to them both. Now my prayers have changed by the insight of Zechariah in conjunction with this revelation from Chapter 4:6-7. It is by the spirit of God I pray against the thickets and to God’s plan and blessing I shout “Grace, Grace to it.” God has turned my eyes in the spirit to see Him greater than I ever had before. My confusion, embarrassment, and ridicule is all a small price to pay for my new treasure. May the God of revelatory wisdom turn your eyes to His greatness. If He does join me in His deserved worship, prayer against the thickets and shouts of Grace, Grace to His plans. Hope this helps you as it helped me.
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"One of the greatest mistakes I think we make as Christians is trying to box God into the black and white reason of our intellect.
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from my experience, Yeshua always gives us what we pray for, just not in the time frame we expect, but usually much longer than we expect.
this gives us time to do His will otherwise we wouldnt.
if we got everything taht we pray for immediately, in short order we would completely forget who gave it to us and become apostate.
if one prayed for $1 million dollars tomorrow and got it tomorrow, you would forget about god very soon and soon there would be no one to do His will as everyone would pray for large amounts of money and chaos would ensue shortly.
also, i have found that when god finally does give you what you pray for, one of 3 things have also happened....
1) you find that it is not what you really wanted anymore,(possibly because of the previously unforseen problems that it brings) or
2) you have moved on to something else, so it is not as important as it once was or....
3) if it was a material thing (money, car, boat, etc) you have increased your spiritual wisdom manyfold so that you no longer even desire physical/material objects but thirst for wisdom only.
sort of like a monk, who is only interested in increasin his spiritual wisdom, but better than a monk, as a christian has the HS giving him wisdom which is far superior.
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from whence the true saying comes from....
"...be careful what you pray for; you just might get it."
Phil. 4-11
"...to be content in whatever state that I find myself..."
(whether rich or poor, free or bond)
"Secretary of the British Treasury"; Wow; I told you guys gotta be patient wait till the media gets a hold of this;
The longer it goes on the better for Kurt and Scott the worse for them!!!!!
Worse for the courts!!!!
Kurt,
With all that said, the truth must come out. So finish the race and STAY THE COURSE! Our FATHER will bring the Light into the darkness. You are not alone in this my brother.
R&P
near the end said...
Worse for the courts!!!!
You aren't very smart are you?
Hey Kyhooey, how about a cliff's notes version in the future? I may actually read it.
just goes to show you, mongrel's vast knowledge is half-vast, at best.
LOL
BRUCE W. MACOMBER/NEMO, WHY DID YOU FILE "BANKRUPTCY"?
MY BALD HEADED FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT ONLY TAKES ABOUT 4 MONTHS TO FORECLOSE IN FL.!!!!
justice77777777 said...
Hey Kyhooey, how about a cliff's notes version in the future? I may actually read it.
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Sure thing Jusicass 777 I'll post a version that would be more at your level of comprehenion if you need that to understand what I wrote. It's not that I care much, but are you really as stupid as you are seen to be on here I only ask because to act as if you did'nt read my post and understand what was stated in it, is like saying your not here to distract people from getting to the truth and that your not part of the problem to boot.
So all though it is nothing but a waste of time to do this I'll go ahead and put together a some what dim witted version for you. That way at least I can say I did my part to stop the ever growing problem of Illiteracy that you and so many more suffer from today.
It would seems kinda a waste of time without that now would'nt it?
You know without ever meeting you face to face I already can say without feeling like I'm prejudging you by doing so that somewhere 'PUNK BITCH' fits into your title and or class-if-a-ksin.
Your as easy to see throught as the ones I talked about in that post you did'nt read. So keep being you it just prove my point that the Dorean group was making a large enough dent and doing so by using the very rule's writen by the banks that also convince poeple like you that there the ones in the right. Or is it just that you like the fact of being part of something that rips people off? What a great lifes work, cheating and lies that as I heard one broker say to me in his attempt of explaning why he was'nt getting the best deal for me or was it making the Title comp. cut their fee's do to the fact that I had just had a loan the year prier so there was'nt much risk to them I can't recall witch one it dos'nt matter much though. The point being as I was saying he was'nt getting me the things thhat were his job and the right thing to do because he said "it a small group around here so if you mess with the program word gets around fast and your out of business" I would think your more than not proud to part of a group such as that as I said what a great Title for a job are you sure you would'nt be happier as a Car salesmen I hear they are'nt muchbetter then you but at least the public expects the way their going to be treated before hand and the loss of a car is really know equil to that of your lifes work now is it?
say what you will but the facts become clearer everyday about the Gov'ts need to shut down Dorean and not because they were wrong but because they had amassed a larger than most group that was about to explode and cause big problems for the countries banking system we know today. Eveything that is being done shows the fact that the case against these two is a total stall tactic in their systimatic disolvment of the group without causing a back lash that would bring on even more people to their plite against the banks.
You have to see this eevryone and that this shit for brains is here to do nothing but divert you from seeing just that.
Just an ass 7777 waste someone elses time if you must but the time I have to spend on you will be nothing more than to tell you to fuck off for lack of another word at the momment. But hey I'[ll see if I can come up with a few more words to discribe you that are less abrasive ok so Go wipe thoses little eye's and well how about yu just go?
that work for me see ya 'Pal' !!!
even this was more time than you should be given.
l8r
justice77777; Would you be upset if I post your phone number?
I know who you are!!!!
better you give him a jangl so he do no ho yo r.....yo be a no ne mouse.
www.jangl.com
No mogel he may have a legit legal issue if I did; but it is tempting.
....ok, here a new won fo yo.
INDYMAC BANK V. TAMBRA ROGERS
JAN. 2007
RESULT:___________________________
bet nobody got this one????
whos zoomin' who??
Fed warned of foreclosure crisis as loan growth slows
By Craig Torres and Carlos Torres
Bloomberg News
Article Last Updated: 03/08/2007 10:00:37 PM MST
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and other policymakers were warned that rising mortgage foreclosures are likely to get worse, as the central bank on Thursday reported the slowest pace of loan growth in four years.
The Federal Reserve Board's Consumer Advisory Council, including consumer advocates and banks, met in Washington, with Bernanke and Fed Governors Susan Bies, Randall Kroszner and Frederic Mishkin in attendance. Home-mortgage foreclosures were the first agenda item, and the officials heard anecdotes of default and families at risk.
"We have found neighborhoods with abandoned homes, 200 at a shot," said Louise Gissendaner, senior vice president and director of community development in Cleveland at Fifth Third Bancorp, the 10th-biggest U.S. bank by assets. She said abandoned housing has "devastated our city to a great degree."
Mortgage borrowing rose by $792.5 billion last year, the smallest gain since 2002, according to the Fed's quarterly Flow of Funds report. The increase last quarter was the smallest since 1998, as two years of Fed interest-rate increases depressed loan demand and slowed the housing industry.
The Fed raised its benchmark rate to 5.25 percent in June, compared with an average target of 3.2 percent in 2005, a year when net new mortgage borrowing soared by a record $1 trillion. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg News expect the Fed will hold the rate through the third quarter, the median estimate shows.
Fed officials heard stories from Denver, Cleveland, Philadelphia and New York, where neighborhoods are deteriorating as borrowers struggle to pay loans or abandon their homes in foreclosure, a process where lenders take possession of property.
Bernanke and the other governors didn't comment on interest rates, the economy or the direction of regulatory policy. They listened to comments from advocates and bankers, who indicated that foreclosures are likely to increase further.
"We feel like a canary in a coal mine," said Stella Adams, executive director of the North Carolina Fair Housing Center in Durham. "It is sad for us to know that there are 1.2 million families at risk from foreclosure."
Some 1.2 million foreclosures were reported nationwide last year, up 42 percent from 2005, according to Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac, which has a database on foreclosed properties.
Delinquency rates on real-estate loans rose to 2.11 percent for all banks last quarter, the highest in four years, according to Fed data unadjusted for seasonal patterns.
Much of the deterioration in mortgage quality was the result of subprime loans, or credits to borrowers with little or poor credit history. Banking regulators on March 2 issued proposed guidance on subprime mortgages.
Consumer advocates at Thursday's meeting said poor underwriting standards in the subprime market were behind the rising foreclosure rates.
"We are facing a foreclosure crisis in this country," said Adams. "There is a distinct problem in the subprime market that is contributing to the foreclosures."
"We have found neighborhoods with abandoned homes, 200 at a shot," said Louise Gissendaner, senior vice president and director of community development in Cleveland at Fifth Third Bancorp, the 10th-biggest U.S. bank by assets. She said abandoned housing has "devastated our city to a great degree."
We feel like a canary in a coal mine," said Stella Adams, executive director of the North Carolina Fair Housing Center in Durham. "It is sad for us to know that there are 1.2 million families at risk from foreclosure."
1.2 millon?? you aint seen nuthin' yet.
dun woorry. they govt. has put showers in the condensation camps fo yo.
the "planned" ecomonic destruction of the UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA© continues.
and you know who all dose homes is goin' to doncha??
the frito bandito and the coffee guy, what his name....wahn valdais and dey done need no moogage to buy
it cause they got no id to get the mortage. govt. give to them fo free. no gingos need apply.
LOLO!!!!
lot easier to take over a country when the peeples you takin over done have a house to live in.
guys in neos line of business can make a killing in the next few years (provided he hires a translater)
not being derogatory of neo, here, just stating the facts as they are.
We have found neighborhoods with abandoned homes, 200 at a shot,"
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i recetnly drove by some of these "200 a shot" neighborhoods, and it wasnt in the bronx, ny either.
they just had a big "illegals" raid in massachewsits.
guess who came to the rescue with food and shelter????
pick one_____
Saint X
Saint Y
Saints Y and Z
Saint ______ (fill-in you own)
now, 2 + 2 = 4
so, now you tell me who all behind the ecomic destucion of the USA???
RIGHT. YOU GOT IT!
what did the bible says: the ac from the city on 7 hills. (roam)
see, they smot. they no that yo cant complain because who would complain about giving food and shelter to poor peeple??
no one. even tho they just using these peeple to destroy the USA.
when they done using them to destroy USA, they will throw them to dogs just like everyone else.
mogel said...
SOP: What is the win against Indymac about? Was this a secured debt or an unsecured debt case?
check you email at yuhoo.
i have more info, but as it was sent by email to me, i MUST respect ones privacy.
sorry, thats all i can provide and even that is not in the public domain right now so please keep it private.
also, regarding the info you sent me to that email box, i only jsut went into it now
i only created it for that one time use that you wanted to send me something.
but thanx anyway for the info.
someone had already alerted me to the WT programs earlier.
as far as fusionats, i dont really want to put in $250 for the privelege of investing there.
it seems like a good program at a very high rate and will probably do well, still, i cant see the 'fee' just for joining even tho you probably make it back in one month.
its a "principal" thing o guess.
Hey Just-ass 7777 what gives you ask for a more condenced version of my posting and it waiting for you why no responce back about it?
Oh don't bother I think I have a good idea why your not posting anything about it, its gone into the weekend and your not sitting in front of that computer at work twittling your thumbs all day.
That would just go to show you if you hire a guy like you your paying 100% but only getting 10% back the rest of the 90% of the time paid for is just you plaing with yourself all day debating wheather or not your line of business is fiull of crooks or not .
I think that about end's that debate, now don't it!
Slacker!!! now go get a job worth doing you know something that's not charging people for the push of a button and alking to the printer to get the resultes out of it then adding a paperclip and sitting there with no real advise for your customers.
I guess the bank's is your REAL customer right?
I guess what that broker said to when I asked him why he was'nt finding out about a problem the lender was causing andd working on stopping it when he said "Look I have to work with these guys after this loan so I'm not saying anything"
Seeing how he thought my back was against the wall and had to take his junked up last min interesrt ajuting up loan. Oh and lets not for get the wife who was thge signing agaent and was making a grand for doing so all though she did have to cut her shopping trip at the mall short to do my signing so I guess that is worth the grand for getting the papers out of the fax and driving daow the street 10 blocks and then bring them back home to and sending them to the lender Oh thats right she was at the mall shopping ok make that across town on her way home she brought the paper by to sign = $1000.00 it must be nice if you can trap ... OH my mistake i ment find the work who would think that a broker would trap customers and take adantage of them I never would say that .. sure I would..!!!
Boy were'nt they .. well her mostly surprised when I canceled the loan after signing you know some times that little recision law is nice to have around. Add 1.5 % to the loan at the last min and think I'm going to chock on it he can go fuck him self. I'll go get screwed by someone else before I'll let soemone try that and get away with it.
Just an ass your just part of the problem pal rep what you sow cuzzy it will come back at you soon.
Lissen to all the lawmakers running around say the foreclosures are what they think is the results from the Subprime market. NO SHIT! Really ya think so? What a bunch of dumb asses or are we to beleive that their that stupid and go along with them and their gult free act.
You bet subprime but more to the crooks ripping people off is what put them into the place they are not the fact that they were looking for more than they could handle it's just they had know chose by the time the broker and the rest6 of the un watched buch got through.
\More concerned with their pocket getting filled as much as it could rather then what was the best for the client. The recourse being very limited foor them to get the broker to pay for the mistakes their asso. create more like they spend their time doing damage control so tey can keep their pockets fill by it6's doing also.
CROOKS all of them if more than 1 % coulkd show they were out there doing an honest day's work and being upfront about 100% to the customer i would be more than happy to take any lump i have coming at least that way i would have no chose but to say I was the one who caused it not that the incompetent poeple that say their doing their job and don't were the cause.
How these lawmakers want use to beleieve them when they act so suprised about the goings on with in the industry is just another slap in the face. Their in it everyday and I have only less than a customes working knowlage of it and I can see all the lies and trick being done ny many everday how in the F)*(&k can they not see it.
If that were the case then everyone of them as part of the test to get their lic. they should have to go throught the process 3-4 times and see how they get treatd as somneone on the out side and all then they could not act so dumb when these kinda things happen they would have to say they new it was bad but did'nt care cause they were making so much money at doing it!
CROOKS and snakes thats all they are.
Hey "Nemo" do you plan on fileing "BANKRUPTCY" anytime soon?
How do you sleep at night?
I know all about you; your x-wife and I have been talkin about you.
I know more about you than you know about yourself.
Hope you can sleep at night!!!!!!!!!!
I should have said;
Are you planning on fileing "BANKRUPTCY" again anytime soon?
Justice7777777 said...
6 Months later and SOP still owns the blog.
Excellent work my isolated friend!
Mogel still needs a date.
And folks have gotten a kick out of using my login.
I don't enjoy watching criminals in their death throws. So I will leave the Latvian fraudsters to their own final gasps.
RIP Kurt.
I'll check in in 6 months to see if the memorial service continues.
Suckas
Go get em SOP.
Good luck Mogel (www.eharmony.com)!
9:50 PM
As we can see you are at a complete losss for any answer to a question or stsment of fact put to you.
Know doubt do to your involvement with the parties of the banking industry, and so being could never get beyond you greed long enough to see or admit the truth as to do so would only bring to light for all that you are nothing more than a CROOK.
So be on your way and try not to let the door hit your ass to hard on you way out of it.
It's all good to post ones OP but to do so when this is to try and hold up a lie and to gain from it is the show of bad faith and you have shown that here.
You answer nothing that is presentedd to you in truth all's you have to say here is your one sided and unfounded view.
There are no facts that you offer that support your claim's so why must you continue to boost upon something you can only think is the facts or truth instead of finding the real story and looking beyond your pay check and greed for the sake of being a stand up person in your doings for once . Or is that to much to ask someone of your ideals and standerds ?
I find it interesting that when anyone persented with a question they can't answer by bullshiting there point through sem to just fade into another blog name and start to post their same dribble all over again but never have the facts and guts to stand up and have an open real look at the topic and that there view as to it might not be the way they think it is and just because something iis told by the PTB to be the fact's dos'nt mean it to be always the truth.
In the history there aremany timeswhere this country PTB have made very real and very bad chooses as to their stand or how the people think or want thing this happens alot that latter they are shown to be the crooks for it doing and then what ? they simply say we were wrong 'SORRY we won't do that again'
In your eye it must be ok to go out lock a large number of americans up for nothing they have done wrong and then say we sorry later is that your way of thinking
So be the one that should stand at the time of an injustices and say NO! to the ones that are the cause of it's doing even if that be to go againest the stongest power and gov't should their view and stand be wrong because at the time it is not seen the wrongs caused by the PTB.
Could it be that this country has taken the fact of its men and women have been push to the edge of working and have vary little time to or have been trained that if the go aganist the PTB (ie: Dan Rathers and the way he was set up by the Bush Admin to shut daon any further expose of the 'made pres') as to the fact they can't find the time to fight there Gov't and make them do the right thing
Is it so far off the mark to think that the persons who have shown us that given the chance to do the wrong thing and gain from it or to be corrupt in office to serve the people they will so do the wrong thing without care , that it is only the fear of being exposed that keeps most in line who have been so truthed with it . That the idea of the Gov't using their power to get the people in to a state of complacencey as to the doing of thie office and to do so with the end result being the gain of filling the PTB pockets full ?
We used to here of these things like how TV could use sub messegess to get people too by their product or that the Gov't might be useing the info they gather or that the BIG BROTHER is watching well how would you not be able to see the fact around their use the fast paced climb of tech to their addvantage and at your ( the people ) cost
There ar eway to many thing that have been shown that say the banking industry is corrupt and that just of the past few years have made changes to their already onesided term of aggerment and have done so to stop the very thing that Dorean has resented so why is that if there was no case.
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