I've been informed that my traveling legal work which contains the "Phase One" blog will catch up to me shortly. This means I will post it soon. The web-page is still developing. The course though delayed is still progressing. My gut tells me that though this prison wants me out of here God wants me to stay a couple more months. The divorce between us is a destiny just a little premature. If my spiritual sense is wrong God has moved me for His good reason. The move most likely when it comes will move me back to California. I'm still in the SHU. 40 days as of this writing. God has used me here so it is no accident.
Let me talk with you on a serious note. In the story of Gideon he started out with 32,000 soldiers. All of them were good men. By the time God finished His selection process there were only 300. This selection process is about to be applied to you clients. Before I initiate "Phase Two" I will be down to what I'm calling "The Gideon Band." Most of you will be sifted out unable to progress. "Phase One" is the end of the line for you. I have no doubt that "Phase One" is the end of my relationship with most of you. There are others I desire to continue with but I cannot select you. I can warn you though this truth that there is a way in a man that seems right in his own eyes that is in the end his folly. I know how God is going to separate you and I am praying that your faith fail not. It is time for you to be vigilant in prayer for temptation is at your doorstep. I am leading you in the way that is right and doing what Christ asks of me. This I offer you to watch and discern what Christ is requiring of me. I am not allowed to tell you how to pass this test only to pass it myself as an example. Your worldly wisdom will fail you. The correct response permeates the entire Dorean story as well as the entire gospel. The truth is not hidden to those who will seek it with all your heart. I can tell you that the blessing of "Phase Two" in comparison to "Phase One" would make "Phase One" appear to be an insult. "Phase Two" is exceedingly abundant above what you can ask or think. I will not have to seek you out. Those of you who God disqualifies will come to me bragging about how right the choice is you made. The others will come to me with humble fear in the discovery of how foolish their wisdom was. God is wise to sift you. "Phase Two" would destroy the "good people" who don't know His ways. Some of you are going to be so led by fear and the devil that you will be robbed even of "Phase One." You are without excuse and I will not rescue you from your own folly. As I see it the retards use correct words though they have no understanding how to apply them when they say "you get what you deserve." Phase One, Phase Two, or Phase Out you decide. Some of you I love and I have heart robbery in your hearts please seek the Lord with all your heart. The plans He has for you are good.
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Like "Jules"says."The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."Ezekiel 25.17
demo and mongrel...
i put a derelict question to yo "2" an yo didnt answer it:
if yo dont answer it, then yo will be just as bad as allslop and jug beans....
? if EVERYONE during the tribulation MUST take "THE MARK", then how are the 2 of you going to survive as christians during this time period????
plain and simple....
THE QUESTION THAT "BLOWS UP" THE NO RAPTURE/POST TRIB RAPTURE POSTULATION.
"...B-L-O-W-S U-P..."
even dim jug beans can usnderstand the logic here...
1) if you DONT take the MARK, you cannot survive...cant buy/sell food, clothes, pay bills...etc.
2) IF you TAKE the MARK, then you WILL survive during the TRIB, but jesus is NOT coming to GET YOU, after the TRIB, as you now are NO LONGER a CHRISTIAN any more...
which really then posits anther question...
EXACTLY WHO IS JESUS COMING TO GET???
JIMMY NOONE. HE THE ONLY ONE LEFT....AS NO ONE LEFT IS A CHRISTIAN...SO NOW YOUR THERY HAS JESUS RAPTURING SATANS MINIONS TO HEAVEN..
LOLOOL!!!
like i said...
"...B-L-O-W-S U-P..."
the fact is that there cannot be any christians left here...
our job is finis'....
it is time for SHILOH to deal with the juice one on one...head to head...
and...YOU DONT WANT ANY PART OF THAT...LET ME TELL YOU....
WAHT YO LOOKIN' AT!!!
YO WANT SOME OF DIS?!!!
and while yo wait for you HYPEs to payout...begin to stock some can food and water as the ptb now reelize what slop say beefo he beem up dat there will be no attack on eye/ran beeefo the raptoon...now dat they no dat slop no what he talkin about, the ptb lou minotti gettin disparate...they gonna realy start to fire up dose laser sats in da sky and weather boom cities like mkcaney says....
dats wha gong on now...
canes doin' loolops... ∞
one cain rite afta da other...no rest time between...
dose po nawlins peepls....day move out...back in...2/3 days back out again...den in agin...out/in in/out...day gonna drive dem po peepls crazy down there....an they dun give a sh*t eether...
corse, yo no ho run dis world...
the angel of light ho they wurship...
light = luce
is dat why all these relgous sites now say to jsut 'walk in light' ????
wha hoppens to 'walk in the spirit' the hs of course.
Dr. says: "if EVERYONE during the tribulation MUST take "THE MARK", then how are the 2 of you going to survive as christians during this time period????"
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If you make a false assumption, you will probably must assuredly come to a false conclusion.
Why do you say that EVERYONE will act a certain way or EVERYONE WILL TAKE THE MARK? That has never been the norm from the beginning of time. Is there a place in the Bible that says this WITHOUT ANY QUESTION or doubt? I certainly doubt it.
Besides, you don't refute the obvious scriptures I have already given you you show that Christians go through the tribulations times too along with everyone else.
"if you DONT take the MARK, you cannot survive...cant buy/sell food, clothes, pay bills...etc."
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Some might even argue that EVERYONE EVEN NOW uses the "mark" or have already taken upon yourself "the mark" everytime you use a debit or credit card even now to purchase your goods & services. Most everyone EVEN NOW uses a debit or credit card for purchases of food or to pay bills.
It is the desire of the powers that be, to get rid of all paper money at some point. Without any paper money or checks, all you would have is a debit card or something of this nature to pay bills in most cases.
If the financial system is unfair and or inherently evil, than are all those that participate in it, also evil or is it just a system of necessity even now until a better system comes along? Unless of course, you choose to go on the barter system to survive, which is also possible to trade goods & services.
It doesn't really matter because God's people have always figured out ways to survive through revelation & through the holy prophets words that God has always chosen since the beginning of time.
Even Moses's people were fed manna from heaven. Couldn't God do something like that again if needed if there was needed a separation of God's people from the power establishment? Or is God not powerful enough in your mind due to your resolution that all must sucumb to the worldly power establishments ways?
Dr. says: "our job is finis'...."
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The Christians job or God's job is not finished, even until the end of time. The work goes on & his purposes and his glory continue on and on. Maybe that's why one of his names is "eternal".
Your doctrine IS PURE NONSENSE.
For someone that claims the presence of the Holy Spirit, you surely cling to alot of "man made doctrines" or even the doctrine of many of the so called man made churches here upon this earth. If you believe that his true church is not upon this earth, why do you purport many of the false doctrines that these churches teach?
Kurt says: "In the story of Gideon he started out with 32,000 soldiers. All of them were good men. By the time God finished His selection process there were only 300. This selection process is about to be applied to you clients."
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According to the ratio, approx. only 1 in 100 chosen ended up in the selection process in Gideons army.
If that type of ratio still holds up even today, if there were 5,000 dorean clients, are we to conclude that only about 50 clients will be financially blessed due to most being fearful & not having enough faith to take the risk to complete all phases?
Maybe that's not too encouraging in one sense.
judge sloppy said...
And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."Ezekiel 25.17
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Yep, that Jules was a righteous man... except for when he was killing all those people for Marcellus. But we all have to earn a living, I guess.
Of course Jesus will touch the earth at the 2nd coming. He's even questioned by the Jews:
http://bible.cc/
zechariah/13-6.htm
The Dr. continues: IF you TAKE the MARK, then you WILL survive during the TRIB, but jesus is NOT coming to GET YOU, after the TRIB, as you now are NO LONGER a CHRISTIAN any more...
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There's no need for jesus to come & get you, SINCE THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. THIS EARTH WILL EVENTUALLY BE TURNED INTO A HEAVEN, those that survive and "endure to the end".
Speaking of the doctrine & importance of "enduring to the end", how does the rapture fit into & being congruent with this doctrine of enduring to the end? Seems to me if you are saved in an instant, prior to the 2nd coming, there's no need for enduring anything.
So one act MEANS YOU AREN'T A CHRISTIAN ANYMORE? So can I conclude you don't believe in the doctrine of repentence either? If you don't believe in repentence, you must also not believe in the atonement OF Christ either. If you don't believe in that, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T BE A CHRISTIAN YOURSELF, or at least not a charitable & forgiving Christian.
Scott. The scripture wasn't for Jules benefit.It was for your's
mogs...now its you that is making interprets and NOT using the bible...
the bible clearly says EVERYONE
if you want to play lawyer, then you mite as well join jug beans and allsoop...
you are trying to twist and turn a simple word..
EVERYONE mean EVERYONE...
EOS end of story
there is nohting to debate or refute.
the post trib theory plain and simple comes from juice who have infiltrated chruches that all go to teach this nonsense..
its beacsue they dont want christians going up and want them to stay here and suffer thru the trib with them..
the trib is gods punchment to the juice for rejecting His Son...period...
you dont beleive in it so you probably will be here...
i wont...didnt say that i wont suffer...i have alredy, but my suffering is not the TRIBULATION and SHILOH/AC is not here yet and wont be utnil all the real beleivers are gone...
but like ive said...say "hello" to SHILOH/AC when you see him for me...
SHILOH his name to the juice
AC his name to NON JUICE WHO WILL BE HERE
judge allslop said...
Scott. The scripture wasn't for Jules benefit.It was for your's
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Thanks, sloppy! You know I have to mess with you, right? There are just so few of us left here to keep you guys on your toes. And I'm through playing with Byron. He's become awfully tiresome. And Dr. Ira Gilac... well, I have to sharpen up on my ebonics before I can know how to respond to him.
I really just wanted to let you know that I saw Pulp Fiction too and that I found it interesting that Kurt's latest post inspired you to quote the favorite scripture of a psychotic hired killer. Wassup wit dat?
And Doc Gilac... I hope it doesn't make you uncomfortable for ME to be the one to say it but you are right on the mark about the pre-trib rapture. As weird as you are sometimes, your knowledge of scripture is USUALLY spot on.
SOP - Your 'everyone' premise blows up in REV. 20
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Of course, if you really wanted anyone to take you seriously, you would drop the distorted language.
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
true...BUT these are the "souls" who were converted during the TRIB...
most likely jews who somehow converted to christianity and now are beheaded....
so your verses still dont change anything...
they went into the trib as unbelievers and came out (died) as beleivers...
still does not change at all that EVERYONE will take the mark...NO EXCEPTIONS.
sorry!
durig the TRIB, there will be only 2 people preaching the g of the K...sorry its not demo and mongrel....
but the "2 witnesses"
some will be converted at that point...however, just like the 2 witnesses, they will be killed...
anther nail in the post trib rapture...if the 2 witnesses cannot survive SHILOH, what makes you think anyone else can???
but really...i dont want to argue the point...you really are welcome to stay if you like...the AC is looking for recruits.... ;-)
like i said...
"...B-L-O-W-S U-P..."
here's no need for jesus to come & get you, SINCE THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. THIS EARTH WILL EVENTUALLY BE TURNED INTO A HEAVEN, those that survive and "endure to the end".
rawng again!
this earth will see a 1000 year 'millenial kingdom" beginning when jesus touches down again on the earth with the saints after the marriage feast in heaven...
howver, wehn satan is unleshed one last time after bing bound for 1000 years, the final war armageddon...then jesus will create a 'new heaven and new earth"
all old things will pass away....
rember, when the saints come back after the rapture and the trib, as they will be given power to judge evil "on the spot"
if yo think taht jug beans is tuff...you aint seen nuthin' yet as they say...
teh saints will judge evil on the sop, means that evil is immediately dealt with...
from the gospel of the kingdom, people will have already been warned about dong evil...now the saints are here to 'enforce' it...
real easy...yo do evil..yo otta here...simple as that...teh penalty is capital punishment on the sop...rember anis an saffira???
they got "in the end" w/o vaslin...
they lied to HS....same deal here....
"..behold; hear those footsteps coming?...those are yo pallbearers.."
yeah...i hope sum of dose is still here when i come back with Him....theres a few that i gonna "look up"
and in a spirit body, they address wont be too hard to fined.....
Scott says."I really just wanted to let you know that I saw Pulp Fiction too and that I found it interesting that Kurt's latest post inspired you to quote the favorite scripture of a psychotic hired killer. Wassup wit dat?"
The scriptual context refers to retribution for the hostility of the philistines.
Jules quoted this scripture in the beginning because he thought it was "just a cool thing to say".
At the end he refers to it as a value and meaning to his life that's missing.
I say its a cool scripture and one of the most powerful warnings given.I also thought it segued in with Kurt's comments.
the meek will inherit the earth...but only after it has been made civilised again after the trib and the 2nd coming with the saints...
becoss yo wont be able to fite yo way thru it...
rember...
"...unless dose days be shortened, there would be NOBODY left..."
OK...now try to find the excepton to the word "NOBODY"
i no...JIMMY NOONE again..
Sept. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Silver State Bank of Henderson, Nevada was closed by U.S. regulators, the 11th bank to collapse this year amid a surge in soured real-estate loans stemming from the worst housing slump since the Depression. Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is preparing to announce plans to bring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under government control, seeking to halt the crisis of confidence in the companies that make up almost half the U.S. mortgage market.
As if this isn't bad enogh,major publications report Lehman nicknaming their Corporate trash can "Spinco" and "Badbank".Lehman is giving you the middle finger, enjoy the ride.
Silver State Bank of Henderson, Nevada was closed by U.S. regulators, the 11th bank to collapse this year
oh, oh!! the sh*t will really start to hit fan now!!!
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the 11th bank to claps...
somethins up wit dat!!
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Government to take over Fannie Mae & Freedie Mac as soon as this weekend & companies will go into a conservatorship. 1 in 11 people are either in foreclosure or behind on their payments:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/
ap/20080906/ap_on_bi_ge/
mortgage_giants_crisis
SOP - Your 'everyone' premise blows up in REV. 20
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Thank-you Nemo! Kind of difficult to refute that, isn't it?
SOP says: true...BUT these are the "souls" who were converted during the TRIB...
most likely jews who somehow converted to christianity and now are beheaded....
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The evil people will be utterly WIPED OUT DURING THE TRIBULATION TIMES, so they aren't going to be around to be converted.
Why can't these people be Gentiles or non-jews? Again, you are making too many assumptions SOP.
Just because you profess to be a Christian, doesn't mean that your fate is death or to be beheaded. Again, that's pure nonsense.
Dr. says: "the trib is gods punchment to the juice for rejecting His Son...period...":
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Again, that is pure nonsense!!! Probably a very prejudicial or anti-semetic comment too I might add!!!!
The tribulation period is to have justice for all the WICKED PEOPLE WHO WILL BE DESTROYED, whether they are jew or gentile, those that can't be here for the Millenium & the new age coming that is reserved for the honorable people of the earth. There are honorable Jews and there are honorable Gentiles that don't profess to be Christians too.
Dr. says: "durig the TRIB, there will be ONLY 2 people preaching the g of the K...sorry its not demo and mongrel...."
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Again you are wrong. The scriptures say that the GOSPEL MUST BE PREACHED TO ALL NATIONS before the 2nd coming. Sorry, but 2 people only can't get the job done.
The 2 people preaching are annointed prophets of the Lord. You don't have to be a speical prophet to be a missionary preaching the gospel of the kingdom.
There is no place in the Bible that says "that there are ONLY 2 preaching the gospel of the kingdom during the tribulation period. Again, you are making assumptions which seems to be your forte.
the trib is gods punchment to the juice for rejecting His Son...period...
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That happened 2,000 years ago. You mean to tell me, that God ignored doing something about this for 2000 years & he is a God that answers the prayers of the righteous?
Why must a punishment be only about the Jews?
Dr., how are you going to convert the Jews to Christianity with an anti-semitic attitude like the one you have?
Seems to me there will be 144,000 "rabbis" (spelling?) preaching God's Word...
Dr. says: its beacsue they dont want christians going up and want them to stay here and suffer thru the trib with them.."
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The tribulation period of 7 years PRECEDES the 2nd coming of Jesus.
Nemo made that perfectly clear.
Nemo says: "Seems to me there will be 144,000 "rabbis" (spelling?) preaching God's Word..."
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Correct again! 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
That's certainly more than 2.
Scott said: And I'm through playing with Byron. He's become awfully tiresome.
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Remember, even mosquitos have a purpose!
Dr. said: some will be converted at that point...however, just like the 2 witnesses, they will be killed...
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Don't they come back to life? So were they really dead?
Dr. says: if you DONT take the MARK, you cannot survive...cant buy/sell food, clothes, pay bills...etc.
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Yet Jesus teaches this... not to worry about tomorrow. Matthew records Jesus' words saying: "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? . . . But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble" (Matt. 6:25-26, 33-34).
So Dr., it is obvious, you don't believe that Jesus will take care of you. It's a faithless statement you make that is not congruent with the things Jesus really taught.
You may not be able to buy & sell with the establishment, & their ways, but that doesn't mean that you can't eat. I think you are perverting the true meaning originally intended.
When I say the tribulation times, I'm also including the time when the evil people are burned & destroyed at the Coming of Christ when Jesus brings his destroying angels & Saints to cleanse the earth. These angels will be resurrected beings.
The 7 year tribulation period just precedes his 2nd coming.
Dr. says: this earth will see a 1000 year 'millenial kingdom" beginning when jesus touches down again on the earth with the saints after the marriage feast in heaven...
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MARRIAGE FEAST IN HEAVEN?
You'll have to give me that scripture that denotes such language or are you making up the language as you see fit?
howver, wehn satan is unleshed one last time after bing bound for 1000 years, the final war armageddon...then jesus will create a 'new heaven and new earth"
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Wait a second! I thought the battle of Armegeddon, was just preceding the 2nd coming OF Christ, not the time frame that you give. There will be millions & millions in this battle if not more. I thought this was the worldly war that if Christ didn't come back soon & cleanse the wicked from the earth, THAT NO ONE WOULD BE LEFT on the earth to live a 1,000 years of peace.
Satan is not bound during the 1,000years. He's still around and able to travel. Remember, he's not as yet THROWN INTO THE PIT. It's just that people don't listen to him or give him any power during the 1000 years so it's a metaphor, not to be taken literally.
The earth will be changed during the 1000 years reign & will revert back to the way the earth was before the Fall to it's paradisical state or terrestrial glory. It will be changed again after the 1000 years once again to a higher & more heavenly glorified state to be a new heaven to it's celestial glory. The earth will actually take 2 heavenly changes, so I'm not mistaken as you say.
I thought the Battle of Gog & Magog, is the spiritual battle after the 1000 years of peace, where Satan & his angels are finally subdued. I don't believe that is the Battle of Armageddon as you say.
The evil people will be utterly WIPED OUT DURING THE TRIBULATION TIMES, so they aren't going to be around to be converted.
mongrel,
i like you, but carefully re read what you have written above??
an atturnme would destroy yo in jug beans coatroom in the end...
what youve writtne is a blatant contradiction...
besides not being scripturally interpreted correctly..
there will be no good people converted according to what you have written...
obviously...if they were good, then they wouldnt need to be converted....the wicked require conversion...if the wicked are all wiped out before jesus gets here, then there is nobody left..
rember, scripturally ALL NON BELIEVERS are no good and evil
paul said: there is no one good...no, not EVEN ONE.
unless you can play lawyer still again and somehow translate the phrase NOT EVEN ONE....
JIMMY NOONE AGAIN!
mogs...like slop used to say...its too late for debate....you are scripturally wrong on so many of your posts here, that my fingers would get tired trying to reply...
like slop used to say...at this point, one either gets it or one dont...
as far as anti semitic nonsense, i call em as i see em....i have friends who are juice and get along fine with them...
nonetheless, the bible makes it perfectly clear, at least to me and some others that the trib is punchment to juice who have rejected His Son...
i dont know if they are good or not..and neither do you...
i only know what the bible teaches ... either you worship jesus or you worship satan....juice dont worship jesus...so.....who do they worship.....
you figure it out...
Wait a second! I thought the battle of Armegeddon, was just preceding the 2nd coming OF Christ, not the time frame that you give.
just for info, the b OF a is AFTER THE MILLENIAL KINGDOM OF 1000 years...
THE TRIB IS NOT THE BATTLE OF ARMGDON
Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved." Matthew 10:21,22
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Dr. it seems to me by this scripture, that everyone won't be killed & everyone won't WORSHIP THE BEAST.
juice dont worship jesus..
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You can't worship someone you dn't know. that doesn't make you evil.
see mogs, w/o getting into teh scripture, you cannot understand what slop taught becasue you and millions of otehrs as well beleive that man alone can bring in the millenal kingdom..
this teaching comes from religious juice who although may be nice people dont have the HS to get it right...
TRUE. the banking sytem is going to be changed...houses will be saved...some BIG HYIPs are going to pay and this is going to bring in a false sense of security like everything IS GOING TO BE ALLRIGHT....nice and cozy...dont get me wrong, i will take my HYIPs money too when it pays..but the back of my mind will always tell me, enjoy it while you can becassue peace and propertiy is on a time limit before all hell breaks loose...mabye take the hype money and build a brick NBC hardnen shelter with it..nook, bio, chem....
WRITE THIS DOWN AND SAVE IT...
***EVERTHING IS NOT GOING TO BE ALRIGHT***
slop said taht when the banking/foreclsoure/finance problems have been solved that new problems will simply take their place....
in fact, they will make the foreclosure/banking system problbems look like a walk in the park...
they will be replaced with...amongst other things...or like the words layers like to use: INTER ALIEN....
more war, possibly WWIII which slop already beleived started on 8-8-08 which could result in a limted nook strike somewhere. and we all know, once the first strike is used, all bets are off, you wont put the jeenie back in the bottle and any country that has them will now fell free to use them.
cosmological disturbances....INTER ALIEN
hurricanes, erthquacks, typoons, tsunmes, floods, torndos, wind storms, rainstorms etc much more severe than was ever seen before....
and yes, even INTER ALIA will begin to apper...course these are but ANGELS whcih have allways existed...
ANGELS...VERY POWERFUL BEANS...VERY POWERFUL INDEED!!!
but rather than debate who is correct...just follow as we go along...at some point you will come to a fork in the road...if you alread havent and see that things will never be allright and there will NOT BE A MILLENIAL KINGDOM until jesus comes back.
mogel007 said...
juice dont worship jesus..
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You can't worship someone you dn't know. that doesn't make you evil.
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THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO JESUS IS!!
mogs...that one put the 'nail in it....'
waht can i say....OK..YOU WIN!!!
just do me a favor...FOLLOW ALONG as we go....
all incorrect teachings/beliefs will be corrected...painfully, unfortunately....
and while we are at it...
you accuse me of being anti semtic???
how is taht??
for what i bleive?????
i can beleive whatever i want...as long as i do not harm anyone...jew or non jew..
otherwise, if you want to control what i bleieve, then you are of satan who wants to use mind control.
the jews use mind control as they control the cia and all the intel grups...
'good jews' as you call them would not be in such agencies....
The debate has gone on for centuries whether man is inherently good, or man is inherently evil.
If you believe in the pretext of "the Lord of the flies" you believe that man is inherently evil if left to themselves.
When God created the earth & the heavens & even man, he said it was all good.
Yet sin came into the world & man became fallen.
Man is neither inherently or basically good nor are they basically or inherently evil by nature, but man is in a fallen state.
God has given us a probationary period to repent. You can't judge everyone as good or evil until you know everything there is to know about a person, his opportunities, his choices, his environment, etc.
Nor can you say someone has rejected Christ, when he may know little to nothing about Christ or Christ's ways.
I still maintain there are a lot of good people that aren't Christians as of yet. Being a non-christian, doesn't inherently make them evil & worthly of God's punishments.
see...real christians will be tormented becasue the HS has given them the true interpetation of the bible...they know this, so when it starts to happen and everything is turned upside down after some time, they are going to be like....SEE! I TOLD YOU SO!
and no doubt, this will anger all those who THOUGHT that they were real christians and will turn their anger on the real ones...
real christians just need to sit back like it was a football game and they are up by 5 TDs in the 4 qtr...
just sit back in "zone defense" maybe even 6 DBs and disregard the false info...the running plays...you know sooner or later, the other team has to throw the ball..they aer too far behind too late in the game....keep the safetys back and then get the INT....
see mogs its simple...
w/o gettng into scripture whcih we can debate forever...
bottom line:
good jews think that they can bring in the millenail kingdom w/o jesus
and fooled christians have also bawt into this...those who want everything 'nice and cozy'..bills paid, house paid etc...and they will all be paid...at taht point, other major probs will surface...
as time goes on and they follow along, they will see that they are incorrect.
Dr. said: "all incorrect teachings/beliefs will be corrected...painfully, unfortunately...."
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I don't believe God teaches with pain, as his primary tool of advancement, but with loving patience & many many chances to repent, learn, & change to come to the reality of the truth in all things.
We all live under incorrect teachings that aren't totally congruent with Christ & all his ways, simply because we are human & imperfect & we do often err even though we might sincerely believe we are right. May I remind you there are over 1,000 Christian denominations teaching different & often contradictory things about God, his nature, about salvation, etc.
Maybe if Christ came back today, with all the contradictory teachings that abound, he might exclaim, if that is Christianity, with all the confusion & division that exists, than certainly, I'm not a Christian either. :o)
ust sit back in "zone defense" maybe even 6 DBs and disregard the false info...the running plays...you know sooner or later, the other team has to throw the ball..they aer too far behind too late in the game....keep the safetys back and then get the INT....
in other wrods just sit back and relax as you already knwo that the world is headed for destruction....
maybe even tune into the CONTROLLED NEWS NETWORK and watch it self destruct.....
The debate has gone on for centuries whether man is inherently good, or man is inherently evil.
thats just it...its not a debate...
you either beleive waht paul says...or you dont....etiher way, there is not debate...
neither will convince the other.
I still maintain there are a lot of good people that aren't Christians as of yet. Being a non-christian, doesn't inherently make them evil & worthly of God's punishments.
mogs...with this one, you are really going OFF THE DEEP END!!!
being non christian does not make them worthy of gods punchment??????????????????
waht bible do you read?????
this is not even a christian statement at all.
and i wont even begin to debate it with you.
Dr. said: i can beleive whatever i want...as long as i do not harm anyone...jew or non jew..
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So you believe that your own personal thoughts and beliefs can't harm or offend people or even offend your own spirit?
That's like saying that "sticks & stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me."
Words or false beliefs are very harmful sometimes.
You harm people when you leave them alone on their own collusion of disaster due to their preconceived notions of falsehoods.
...in that day, many will say........."lord...lord..."
".....DEPART FROM ME!!! I NEVER KNEW YE! YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY!!"
whatever the case may be, i am not letting anyone mind control me...thank you!
IF you want to, then thats your business...seem like yo already have....
Dr. said: "the jews use mind control as they control the cia and all the intel grups..."
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What? No Gentiles in those agencies, huh?
"YOU PEOPLE" :o)
Dr. said: "good jews think that they can bring in the millenail kingdom w/o jesus"
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That problem will be corrected quite quickly when HE comes with power & salvation for the Jewish people. That error won't be too difficult to change when they finally realize that their ancestors killed their Christ & God. After all, Christ is coming back with the same marks he had during the crucifixion as a sign & witness for those that need some extra assurance & guidance. Course when they see him in his glory & power & saving, there won't be a whole lot of convincing needed.
What? No Gentiles in those agencies, huh?
of course there are gerbils in those ogrs....
but they are not in control, merely misguided minions...gerbils were not given control of this world by god...juice were...the god of thsi world is baal and juice are brothers with him....
and before yo start yo anti sem nonsense, didnt jesut himself say that their father is the DEVIL...
Dr. said: "see mogs, w/o getting into teh scripture, you cannot understand what slop taught becasue you and millions of otehrs as well beleive that man alone can bring in the millenal kingdom.."
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You can't include me in that. I don't believe that.
Further proof that you assume too many things.
Dr. said: "but they are not in control,"
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Jews control, therefore they are the real evil ones, huh?
That gives new meaning to the "chosen people", doesn't it?
No, I don't think you are anti-semetic, where did i ever get that notion. LOL
Dr. said concerning the Gentiles as "merely misguided minions."
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Course the jewish people, can't be "merely misguided minions" due to the fact that they crucified Jesus, thinking he was no one of importance? After all, they believed he wasn't the Messiah they were looking for, otherwise, why would they vote for Barabbas?
The jewish people could have saved him by their vote according to the choice Pilate gave them.
Was Pilate a "misguided minion?" too? How about Pilate's wife who had a dream that Pilate should let Jesus go free? Pilate's wife was a Gentile, was she not?
dR. SAID: and before yo start yo anti sem nonsense, didnt jesut himself say that their father is the DEVIL
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No, I don't believe that was said or intended.
The Devil is the father of lies, whether a Gentile OR Jew heeds the words of Satan.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A RACIAL OR ETHIC ISSUE OR THING.
You can't worship someone you don't know. that doesn't make you evil.
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Dr. said: THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO JESUS IS!!
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The jewish people know exactly who Jesus is? Does that come from their complete reading & understanding of the scriptures as given to them by the Holy Spirit? Or is there another way to know him?
Well, if you have judged & condemned the whole Jewish nation & race, I guess the discussion is in essence over.
I can understand where your lack of mercy and lack of understanding of human nature & of the jewish nature & race comes from now.
I wasn't really sure until you said emphatically, that they are all evil BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID & WHO JESUS WAS & rejected & crucified Him anyway & their posterity has done the same. Hence, they are all worthy of God's wrath as you say.
For someone that says that one should not judge another, I believe you have judged the whole nation of Jews which I find to be somewhat ironical.
".....DEPART FROM ME!!! I NEVER KNEW YE! YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY!!"
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I don't believe that statement was intended to be a racial or ethic slur either.
Dr. said: "being non christian does not make them worthy of gods punchment??????????????????"
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Yet you say that the tribulation punishments are for the jews since they rejected Christ 2,000 years ago. The jews today weren't even around during the time jesus walked the earth.
Dr. said: THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO JESUS IS!!
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Yet, Jesus said to the Father: "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."
The Dr. said: "the trib (tribulation period) is gods punchment to the juice (Jews) for rejecting His Son...period..."
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Period......In other words, don't add or take anything from this statement. It contains the totality of the truth. Huh???????
American Kings James version reads:
"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and TO HIM shall the gathering of the people be:
See:
http://bible.cc/genesis/49-10.htm
In otherwords, Dr., you are perverting the meaning of this scripture to include the anti-christ, when the anti-christ is NOWHERE MENTIONED.
ok mongrel...youre right!
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yo take egold?
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i like yo HYIPs even beter than burly bowls...
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yo take libral reserve?
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Sorry. I had to scroll through most of the discussion, but I did catch something about the Jews and mind control of the CIA and Govt...
Sheesh. Give me a break.
And SOP, what is with the dual personality - dr and slop - who are you, anyway, Sybil?
LOL
Regarding Marriage Feast:
Revelation 19
Regarding Satan Bound:
Revelation 20
1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Sorry. I had to scroll through most of the discussion, but I did catch something about the Jews and mind control of the CIA and Govt...
Sheesh. Give me a break.
yo right!
christians are into the mind control game and run the cia!!
Is that the only two choices, SOP?
Jews and Christians?
While we're tossing around what Jesus said about workers of iniquity, etc, did He not refer to Peter as Satan at one point?
Does that mean that Peter would be eternally punished?
Let's keep it real.
s that the only two choices, SOP?
Jews and Christians?
buddas maybe??
well, lest see...the cia is a usa agency...so, yo tell me ho the 3rd choice mite be???
are we in eye rack, or eye ran, or eye blind maybe???
yo, maybe da lie lama run it??
or is dat dull eye lava?
cleen yo eyes!
dats it!!! dam an of piece...da lie lama run it!!
he run it from the bet..he bet da cowboys and they covered today.
but like i say, i wont the bait anymo....2 late....
as i sayed beefo....just foolow alons.....yo will get it rite ventually....
den again, maybe not!
one last thins...yo willing to subjugate the truth for the lie....and thats your prerogative....as doing this will allow you to survive in this world as those whom you lie for are eventually going to kill those who say the truth....as the truth will be repulsive to them...but that is the way that prophecy was written...so be it.....
e-Bullion update: Fayed's lawyers say feds seized $24 million in assets
Ian Lamont08.20.2008
A motion filed by the lawyers for e-Bullion's co-owner James Fayed claims that FBI and IRS agents seized "bank accounts, business records, property and precious metals holdings" worth $24 million on August 5, according to a new report on the Ventura County Star website. The motion also requests that the government release $300,000 to preserve electronic evidence, including e-mails, audit trails, transaction histories and other electronic records and data, says the Star. (Note: There is an update and a copy of the motion at the bottom of this article.)
Fayed is in jail, awaiting trial on a federal charge of operating a money transmitting business without a license. He is also a suspect in the July 28 murder of his estranged wife, Pamela Fayed, in a Los Angeles parking garage.
August 5 is the date that e-Bullion's account services were taken offline for "routine maintenance." The report in the Star does not mention e-Bullion, only an associated gold-trading company owned by James Fayed, Goldfinger Coin & Bullion. However, Fayed described the strong connections between e-Bullion and Goldfinger in an earlier court filing, and e-Bullion's services are heavily promoted on the Goldfinger website. The Star report says the motion states that the cost of maintaining "Internet servers and [the] computer network system" totals $100,000 per month, including staff-related costs. It further claims that crucial evidence on the system is at risk because of the seizure, and suggests this information would be lost if it were to go down.
The motion also states that the target of the federal investigation might not have been James Fayed and his gold-trading businesses. This could be a reference to the alleged scam outlined in a government memorandum filed earlier this month. The document says e-Bullion was used to transfer money belonging to victims of a massive "Ponzi scheme" in 2006, but does not accuse Fayed of devising the scam.
The Industry Standard is attempting to verify the information described in the Star report, and to determine whether the alleged seizures on August 5 are related to e-Bullion accounts being disabled on the same date.
Update: Paul Huebl has posted the motion cited in the Star article on his website, and you can also view it on the second page of this article. The "[Proposed] Order Granting Application for Release of $300,000 to Preserve Exculpatory Evidence" blames the ongoing e-Bullion.com shutdown on the FBI and IRS search and seizure warrants executed on August 5.
The $24 million cited in the proposed order includes gold and silver from Goldfinger's vaults that is "held for the benefit of thousands of e-Bullion customers." It further reveals that 466,300 user accounts have been created on e-Bullion since 2001, although it is not clear how many of those accounts were active as of August 5.
According to the motion, Fayed is offering to assist law enforcement authorities in investigating past and future transactions for evidence of criminal activity. It notes that in the past Fayed has "cooperated with inquiries" from the SEC, the FTC, U.S. Attorney's offices in several states, and various other federal, local, and state agencies.
http://www.thestandard.com
/news/2008/08/20/
e-bullion-update-fayeds-
lawyers-say-feds-seized-
24-million-assets
This will be a long lasting story where nobody of us investors know what will happen with our funds.
I can¨t understand why FBI seized all the bank accounts without no juridiction.
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yo cant?? ho dat??
beecoos day a criminal entryprize the rsi and the fib....
me too...i was wating to get pay in ebull from bruly bowels HYIPs....now i screwed....
fayit shud listen to the take prisner nestwork to get his money back from the fib...
he shud just do a $24 million AR and get his mooney back.
the fib is a corp.© so this can be done.....
SOP, besides yourself, who is the author of confusion?
Catch my drift?
SOP (a/k/a dr ira gilac)=Satan?
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