It is said in Ps. 34 to magnify His name. What is there to the name of our Christ? I remember when choosing the names of my three children that I searched for names representative of the primary character traits the spirit indicated to me. Others choose out of respect for another family member. What's in a name? Why not call Him John the Messiah or Brian of Monty Python fame? Jesus is the English version of the Hebrew name Yehowshuwa which also branched down to Joshua. There is no "J" in Hebrew so the "Y" came into our language as such. Yehowshuwa, Joshua, Jesus all mean Jehovah is Salvation. This is a powerful name. It is the "I AM" of Moses with this added office of Salvation incorporated. It includes in name by reference "Christ," Messiah" and all other prophetic labels of identification.
There were a few Joshua's in the scriptures. Is Jesus anymore significant than these others? First let's look at Joshua Moses' servant. He was a great leader and obedient unto God. He brought a level of deliverance to the people of God but he did not bring them rest. Though he was an excellent type his failure was indication of the need for a greater Savior. The other was Joshua the high priest found in Zac. 3:1-10. He likewise is a faithful servant unto God but he has to be delivered from his own filth. The text makes it clear a "branch," one greater, would come to ultimately deliver what these saviors lacked. That being the rest of God. This is spoken well of in Heb. 4:1 - 5:10. The very name of Jesus is the hope to all men of God taking on our need for salvation. He is by His show in the flesh upon this earth all about the redemption plan of God. Jesus Himself never used prayer for His selfish ambitions or desires. He always kept His prayer life in submission to the redemptive work of His Father. Obviously we can't pray as Christ did but how are we to pray? Jesus tells us in Luke 11:1-13. Our need of bread is present but if you'll notice it is co textually within a prayer consistent with God's redemptive work. Many pray and never see their answer. Is this truly possible if this text be true? I've learned from the Lord's prayer in Jn. 17 which is answered that if we actually pray by the true redemptive definition of prayer, praying is the answer. For by it we become one as God is one with God. Is God not the answer to all our prayers? As I sought God recently for His word He drove me into that Samuel spirit of friendship. The word I was seeking was Smallville compared to the answer I received in His presence. How much larger was my answer when the revelation of God entered the equation. Suddenly it was not ab out me or my imaginations of the work before me, it was God's work in me and me in His work. He is about things for superior to my imagination. So great is His work that my request actually appear silly and off point to me now.
I'm beginning to see Dorean outside the windows of Smallville. Let me ask you a question; if God truly directs and makes firm our steps (Ps. 37:23-24) and delights in our way is it possible for Dorean to exist and for your involvement to occur by happen stance or mere chance? If you have come to this knowledge that you are in this by God's design let me ask you another question. Is it Smallville thinking just to concern yourself with economic stability for this life? Have you invested any time in knowing what God is doing? Could it be that your petty little concerns might just be swallowed up in the greater work of God? Let me give you an example from scripture. In Jn. 21:1-14 we have God's disciples falling back on their own talents in fishing. They have seen the resurrected Lord before but they are not prayerfully "watching" this strange redemptive work of the Lord. They fish all night and catch nothing. In the morning against all proper fishing techniques the Lord tells them to throw their net over the side. Foolish to their skill set but done as an accommodation. Now they catch 153 fish. Why 153? 153 is the sum total of 1-17. 17 is the number for victory. 153 represents the number for the sons of God. Right in the midst of Smallville ordinary is a significant revelation of God's redemptive work. Think how this truth was recorded so 30 generations of men could read it. This was not just a catch of fish there was eternal truth about God within. Think also how God maintained and fed those fish until their use in history. Everything is placed into service for God's purposes. In your ordinary life, in your ordinary mortgage scenario, in your ordinary financial struggle is there an extraordinary event just on the other side of your boat? How can you know if you are not watching and praying with the Lord as He agonizes over His redemptive work? Magnify the Lord with me and let us pull in all the fish around us to the glory of our Lord.
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Great post Kurt!! Our prayers are with you guys.
Still no news. Lack of communication
is a negative. If the Dorean group can't follow up on their word I want it said. If they are still active where are they positioned now.We derserve that communication with all the years and the thousands of dillars we trusted them with!
Awwww go pray for about 10-15minutes...you'll feel better.
Mortgage Free, can you not see what is happening? It's NOT going to happen! It will NEVER happen! I'm not saying Kurt never intended for it to happen.........he tried, but it's been five years !!!!!!! If you had ever spoke to the "customer service" people(A true stretch of words)in the Dorean office, you would had known long ago it was over. Kiss that money good bye! Move on with your life! Don't become a guinea pig for any more bright ideas or experiments. And for the other people on here that continue to hold up hope........STOP IT!!!!!! If you want to keep up hope, do it to yourself and stop stringing people along here! Great if you want to share the gospel, but any mortgage free ideas are DONE!!!!!!!
Feel better now?
Swami says:
"If you want to keep up hope, do it to yourself and stop stringing people along here! Great if you want to share the gospel, but any mortgage free ideas are DONE!!!!!!!"
Hey Swami, dont you know what part of the message of the gospel is!? Read....
Isaiah 61
[The Year of the LORD's Favor]
1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the POOR.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim FREEDOM for the CAPTIVES
and release from darkness for the PRISONERS, [a]
2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,
3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the LORD
for the display of his splendor.
YASHUA LATER READ THIS IN THE TEMPLED AND ANNOUNCED ITS FULFILLMENT....
Matthew 11:4-6
4Jesus replied, "Go back and report to John what you hear and see: 5The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy[a]are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. 6Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me."
Luke 4:17-19
17The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18"The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to release the oppressed,
19to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW THE GOSPEL TELL US WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT HOPE FOR. IF IT DOESNT COME THRU DOREAN IT WILL COME THRU A DIFFERENT SOURCE. BUT THESE THEIVES WILL PAY BACK WHAT THEY'VE STOLEN AND MORE.
...IF THEY DONT THEN G-D IS A LIAR (AND HE AIN'T)
Everyone's faith is tested from time to time, everyone. PEACE BE WITH ALL.
We still deserve communication on where it stands. Jesus has nothing to do with this!
Habakkuk and Yetter, my faith is fine. Just because you pray for something, doesn't mean your prayer will be fulfilled. Your prayer will be answered, but if it is not GOD's will..........it will not happen. It may be delayed, but it will not happen. You have to believe that GOD is in control, and what happens..........happens for a reason. You must trust in the LORD.........even when the outcome is NOT what you desired! Don't be blind to GOD's will.
Now I'm not questioning anyone's faith here! There are many strong Christians on this blog. I just can't stand to watch anymore people waiting for Dorean to pull the rabbit out of the hat. The hat was stolen by the courts and the performer was thrown in prison.....UNJUSTLY! However, we can't even get an update from Dr Fred. I can't blame him frankly........it's time for him to move on with his life also. Dorean's fight was noble, but they are playing with people that don't follow the law, change the rules in the middle of the game, have the courts stacked in their favor, and probably can't even spell GOD and sure as heck don't give a flip about the "American people".
I'm sure you guys will come back and tell me what a moron I am for daring to question this process. I never said their fight was unjust or ingenuous, but the fight is over. For the few here that want to continue this pointless fight, have at it! Stop dragging unwilling people with you just so your ego can feel satisfied if you achieve the impossible. Don't drive off the cliff just to keep up with the guy in front of you. Don't tell me the fight will be won when Kurt gets out of prison in twenty four years either.
I've dusted the dirt from this town off my feet. I wish everyone well. It's time for me to get on with my life. I pray everyone else gets back to their lives as well! GOD BLESS EVERYBODY!
P.S. If the next Dorean direction is the 1099C form - that's the wrong form to use. I had an Enrolled Agent tell me why.
Mortgage Free,
You may think Jesus has nothing to do with your situation but HE is definately involved in mine...Thats why i am miraculously still living in a house they tried to foreclose on a couple years ago.
habakkuk said...
WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW THE GOSPEL TELL US WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT HOPE FOR. IF IT DOESNT COME THRU DOREAN IT WILL COME THRU A DIFFERENT SOURCE. BUT THESE THEIVES WILL PAY BACK WHAT THEY'VE STOLEN AND MORE.
I agree with your statement. That's why I'm telling people it's time to stop believing Dorean is going to pull this out.
"but if it is not GOD's will..........it will not happen."
G-d's will is in HIS word which i just posted a few clicks ago. Its right there plain as day. The question is are you aligning yourself with HIS will? Are you praying HIS will? If not...you dont get the manifistation of HIS will.
TESTAMENT=WILL Go read the new and old TESTAMENT and find out whats in the WILL...You'll find HE left something in the WILL for you.
Swami and Mortgage Free....No hard feelings...just trying to encourage.
Let me be clearer habakkuk. The "will"...... will not be achieved through Dorean. It may be achieved through someone else, but it won't be Dorean. You have people still grasping that Dorean is going to pull this out. Still clinging to a hope that a man in prison is their answer. That premise is wrong,misguided, and sad. I can't stand to see people this late in the game not putting two and two together after five years.
We were told many things would happen;hard money loans;payments through sold administrative judgments;no options for the banks after the new loan was achieved from the hard money loans;EVERY CLIENT getting help from their legal team;ect.,ect.,ect. None of those happened by the way. They helped you avoid foreclosure two years ago......you realize that happens to people everyday.......right? Are you still making payments on that house is my question? HMMMMMM?
Am I the only sane person here anymore who was a paid client? I'm not saying they weren't good people, but it is over! At what point habakkuk do you realize it is over. Your view that every prayer and direction you do is the right one just as long as you keep praying is ridiculous. You wouldn't have become a Dorean client if all prayers you sent up resulted in a heavenly utopia. I hate to break this to you habakkuk, but we are human. Sometimes we just make bad choices and bad directions and it doesn't matter how much you pray for the square peg to fit in the triangular hole. It is not going to fit!
You are a good man habakkuk. Redirect your prayers, efforts, and focus on something that is going to help people in this trying time. There is more to GOD's will than a mortgage free house. Let's all find out what GOD's will is for us individually.
Amen. I will caution you though, it's not over untill KJ say's it's over. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean somthing isn't happening.
"Still clinging to a hope that a man in prison is their answer"
WHO'S SAYIN THAT? I NEVER DID.
"They helped you avoid foreclosure two years ago......you realize that happens to people everyday.......right? Are you still making payments on that house is my question? HMMMMMM?"
DOREAN DIDNT HELPED ME AVOID FORECLOSURE, THE LORD DID (LONG STORY). DOREAN HAS JUST BEEN ONE PART OF THE STORY THAT AIN'T OVER YET.
"At what point habakkuk do you realize it is over. Your view that every prayer and direction you do is the right one just as long as you keep praying is ridiculous. You wouldn't have become a Dorean client if all prayers you sent up resulted in a heavenly utopia. I hate to break this to you habakkuk, but we are human. Sometimes we just make bad choices and bad directions and it doesn't matter how much you pray for the square peg to fit in the triangular hole. It is not going to fit! "
SEE, THIS IS WHERE KNOWING WHAT G-D IS TELLING YOU COMES IN HANDY. YOU DO KNOW THAT HE (HOLY SPIRIT) STILL SPEAKS TO PEOPLE, RIGHT? IF HE TOLD ME TO MOVE ON I WOULD...BUT HE HASNT SAID THAT..SO I DONT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE TOLD ME EARLY LAST YEAR TO PROPHESY THAT HE WAS GOING TO SHAKE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM...AND THE SIGN WOULD BE AN EARTHQUAKE. THE EARTHQUAKE HAPPENED ALMOST THE NEXT DAY...THEN THE IT HIT.
IT AINT OVER TILL HE (G-D) SAYS IT IS.
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ROMANS 4:17 "....the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were."
We havnt paid a payment in 2 1/2 years. That doesnt mean the enemy doesnt attack you...but it helps you fight better when you know who wins:)
Yetter says: " Amen. I will caution you though, it's not over untill KJ say's it's over. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean somthing isn't happening."
WELL SAID...BUT I WOULD TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND SAY THAT ITS NOT EVEN WHEN KURT SAYS ITS OVER...ITS WHEN G-D DOES. SOMETIMES G-D WILL WAIT UNTIL THE THING IS A CORPSE AND BURIED BEFORE HE STEPS IN. IF YOU HAVNT READ ALREADY, HE SPECIALIZES IN RESSURECTION;)
...THEN WE CAN'T TAKE THE CREDIT.
"You are a good man habakkuk."
THANKS...BUT I GOTTA GIVE HIM(G-D) ALL THE CREDIT:)
Everyone is guessing what is happening. I want to hear it from Dr. Johnson that it is dead we deserve that for the 3000 I paid!
Precisely. Gird your loins, read carefully and take heart, if he hasn't said it himself, we're still dancin. Your agent is being the best fiduciary you ever had. Kurt's takin the heat, quit whinin over a little pocket change and celebrate him home.
Yetter said...
it's not over untill KJ say's it's over. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean something isn't happening.
From About.com
In 1944, Lt. Hiroo Onoda was sent by the Japanese army to the remote Philippine island of Lubang. His mission was to conduct guerrilla warfare during World War II. Unfortunately, he was never officially told the war had ended; so for 29 years, Onoda continued to live in the jungle, ready for when his country would again need his services and information. Eating coconuts and bananas and deftly evading searching parties he believed were enemy scouts, Onoda hid in the jungle until he finally emerged from the dark recesses of the island on March 19, 1972.
So.........it's not over until Kurt Johnson says it's over. With your philosophy, World War II wasn't over because Lt.Hiroo Onoda didn't acknowledge it so. Whether or not Kurt acknowledges it's over or not is a moot point. If he tells you, "I need twenty more years to have this process perfected",.....will you wait? Look at these facts.
1. Several months ago, didn't Kurt tell his wife on this blog it was over for their marriage? Note the term..........over.
2. KURT IS IN PRISON. Some others that were involved in this are in prison, probation, or house arrest.
3. People lost their houses. A LOT of people lost their houses. So much for that sure fire Trust we all had on our homes.
4. Several thousand people have the titles on their houses screwed up. That will take more money for each person to get that straightened up.
5. Several marriages ended because of the stress the Dorean debacle caused on the relationships. I know two people personally that this happened to.
With all the horrible things that have resulted from the Dorean process, how can you still wait for Kurt Johnson to declare it's finality. The five things above are just some of the collateral damage that have been suffered. Yet........yetter.........you wait, and wait, and wait.
From members.tripod.com
During heavy flooding caused by La Nina, a priest refused to obey evacuation orders and decided to stay back in town. As the flood waters rose higher, he climbed to the roof of his house and started praying to God for help.
After an hour of devout praying, a boat came by. The priest refused the boat crew's help.
"God will come to my assistance," he said. And he remained on the roof of his house.
After another hour praying, a canoe came by. The priest refused the owner's help.
"God will rescue me," he said. And he remained on the roof of his house. After yet another hour of prayer, a helicopter flew by.
Yet again, the priest refused help. "God will help me", he said. And again, he remained on the roof of his house.
Despite continuous praying, the flood waters rose and the priest eventually drowned in the raging water.
In heaven, he met God and asked Him, "Why didn't you help me? I called for help and you didn't answer my prayers!"
"Didn't the help arrive? I sent a canoe, a boat, AND a chopper to your rescue!"
What part of the canoe, boat, and chopper are you not seeing that GOD has sent? People are in prison, people have lost their houses, marriages have ended, people lost thousands of dollars,titles are a disaster, ect.,ect.,ect.. Yetter........I don't know what canoe, boat, or chopper you are waiting for. Hopefully...........you won't drown like the priest. Or.......maybe you just need 29 more years like LT. Hiroo Onoda.
It's funny that human nature wants to put a time limit on God's timetable or a timetable when things should "rationally work out."
I have been trying for 6 years to get a derogatory item removed off my credit report. I tried every trick and scheme in the book to get it removed. I even offered to do a "pay for delete". The creditor refused over a dozen times to do this. Their stupid rationale is that it isn't fair to those people that do pay their bills on time. Or their other favorite lie is that they are under some legal obligation to report what they as the creditor perceive is to be the truth. Or another favorite lie is that you can't get accurate information removed from your credit file. Isn't it all inaccurate information if the creditor really isn't the creditor or that's it's inaccurate information if they can't validate the debt? The truth is that if the creditor doesn't respond timely to a consumers dispute, the credit bureau is obligated to remove the item, irregardless of whether the item is accurate or inaccurate.
I must have refuted the item over 100 times, with the credit bureaus, no lie. The creditor never budged over the last 6 years, not even one inch.
Yesterday, I finally got the attorney of the creditor to admit they were wrong & they are afraid of me sueing them now for damaging my credit rating because I found several of their billings that disagree. I even sent a letter of complaint to the Federal Trade Commission, just because they deserve the aggravation they caused me. No hard feelings though, I'm starting to enjoy all of this.
The attorney sent me a certified letter stating yesterday that the derogatory item will be expunged from my credit report. How funny is that? The manager in charge of collections told me a dozen times, they never do that!!!!! The attorney said as a courtesy they were doing this, but actually they have showed me no courtesy over the last six years whatsoever. Even the attorney can't even tell the truth even now when I finally hold most of the high cards.
I could have given up after 5 years of trying different things. I did not! I decided to try one more time to get it deleted & soon it will be a reality. The irony is that the item would have been deleted by the credit bureau by the statutute of limitations in one year anyway, but it was gratifying to get a letter from the attorney admitting their defeat and that I was right all along, and now they are in essence accepting the accord & satisfaction agreement I led them into a few years ago when they cashed my check for a portion of what they said I owed. Two years ago, the attorney argued there was no accord & satisfaction because he alleged there was no bonfied dispute. I finally proved to them there was a bonfied dispute since there were different billings that all contradicted each other.
Another funny thing is that I even had about 4 late fees tacked on my own mortgage that I tried for years to get the mortgage holder to remove. Half of them I know aren't true. Recently, I also got the lender to remove all lates too without having to pay for them. Years ago, they would have never thought of doing that as a courtesy.
Never give up, never stop trying, never stop asking for those things you need and those things you want & seek for.
Both Kurt & his wife have been shown by the Spirit that Kurt won't be in prison for the duration of his sentence. That testimony is good enough for me. Why is that not good enough for others? It's not them in prison.
There is a way to get redress for all of this, the problem is that Kurt's hand is tied by not being able to count on people he has entrusted to implement phase 1. No blame really, just a reality. That doesn't mean that phase 1 is not workable. There has been enough testimonies that the process works & people have been paid, another fact.
Another misconception that people seem to carry is that you need to get on with your life. Who said that you can't get on with your life & still not look forward to redress? How silly is it to put your life on hold anyway?
mogel007 said...
Never give up, never stop trying, never stop asking for those things you need and those things you want & seek for.
This statement is coming from a man that got me involved with two multi level marketing campaigns and get rich quick schemes. Yes I know I was an idiot for believing and following Byron! Yes Byron, continue the lie, continue the facade that has paid so many dividends up to this point. I actually think Byron is very smart, but he falls for schemes and quackery at every turn of the calendar.
Even Gran Teasley..........GRAN TEASLEY people..........wrote everyone in Mortgage Alternatives telling everyone that the mortgage free fight was over. He said they had tried everything but were constantly stopped with road blocks by banks and the government. He said their fight was finished. However,Mogel says to keep going even though he has nothing to show for five years of waiting. Well you just keep wasting your time and efforts Byron. Keep misleading people. Keep stringing people along. Maybe you will have the opportunity to get some more people to join your garbage Mogel. How you didn't do jail time is a miracle. Your positive thinking cost me over $ 2,000.00 joining your charades. However.........here is the difference between you and me.......I learned my lesson.........you do not.
Maybe if we don't give up on Ken Titus .........it will work out. Let's keep Freedomclubusa going too. I bet if we try real hard we can get Freeland OPPS rolling again. If we try real real hard maybe all the HYIP's will actually start paying on a consistent basis. You know I'm noticing a pattern here. NONE OF THIS STUFF WORKS!!!!!!!! Maybe we are just giving up too easy. Maybe we are just not praying hard enough. Shame on us. We give up too easy. Shame!
This statement is coming from a man that got me involved with two multi level marketing campaigns and get rich quick schemes.
AND HOW MANY OTHER MULTI LEVEL MARKETING OR GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES HAVE YOU LOST MONEY ON? LET'S BE FAIR HERE? WE ALL HAVE LOST MONEY.
Yes I know I was an idiot for believing and following Byron! Yes Byron, continue the lie, continue the facade that has paid so many dividends up to this point.
NO ONE IS CALLING YOU AN IDIOT.
I actually think Byron is very smart, but he falls for schemes and quackery at every turn of the calendar.
I THINK WE BOTH CAN RECOGNIZE A PONZI AT THIS POINT, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE?
Even Gran Teasley..........GRAN TEASLEY people..........wrote everyone in Mortgage Alternatives telling everyone that the mortgage free fight was over. He said they had tried everything but were constantly stopped with road blocks by banks and the government. He said their fight was finished. However,Mogel says to keep going even though he has nothing to show for five years of waiting.
IF IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, THAN YES MANY HAVE LOST MONEY, BUT HAVE YOU ACHIEVED AN EDUCATION ALONG THE WAY? HAVE YOU PICKED UP OTHER THINGS OF VALUE ALONG THE JOURNEY? MUST EVERYTHING BE MEASURED IN TERMS OF MONEY? IF & WHEN DOREAN PAYS OUT, WILL THAT MEAN THAT YOU ARE AT THIS POINT, POSSIBLY MISLEADING PEOPLE?
Well you just keep wasting your time and efforts Byron. Keep misleading people. Keep stringing people along. Maybe you will have the opportunity to get some more people to join your garbage Mogel.
KEEP MISLEADING PEOPLE? I POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS PROOF THAT PHASE 1 WORKS, HOW IS THAT MISLEADING PEOPLE? I AM NOT PROMOTING ANYTHING FOR MONEY AT THIS POINT. HAVE YOU EVER PROMOTED ANYTHING THAT HASN'T WORKED OUT AS PLANNED? LET'S BE FAIR.
How you didn't do jail time is a miracle. Your positive thinking cost me over $ 2,000.00 joining your charades.
MIRACLE? LET'S SEE, 4 OF 19 BROKERS INDICTED & CONVICTED. SOUNDS LIKE SELECTIVE PROSECUTION TO ME. MOST BROKERS WERE NEVER AT RISK. OH BY THE WAY, MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO READJUST THAT FIGURE SINCE ONE OF THOSE OPPS IS SOON GOING TO GIVE 30% OF YOUR INVESTMENT BACK THROUGH GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION. ANY REASON WHY YOU FAILED TO MENTION THAT?
However.........here is the difference between you and me.......I learned my lesson.........you do not.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT LESSONS I HAVE OR HAVE NOT LEARNED? NOT FAIR TO COMPARE THE DOREAN GROUP CHALLENGE TO A PONZI SCHEME.
SPEAKING OF PONZI SCHEMES EVEN DAVID REED IS FACING JUSTICE NOW AT THIS POINT 10 YEARS LATER. HE HAS ASSETS, MANY WILL GET BACK MONEY FROM THAT TOO AT SOME POINT. IT TOOK THE GOVERNMENT 10 YEARS TO PROSECUTE ON OSOPPS & OSGOLD, REMEMBER THAT PROGRAM? HE ABSCONDED WITH 200 MILLION SOME ESTIMATE. I'LL BET YOU WERE A PART OF THAT TOO.
Maybe if we don't give up on Ken Titus .........it will work out.
AGAIN NOT FAIR. KEN TITUS HAD NO LEGITIMATE PROGRAM OR DESIRE TO HELP PEOPLE.
Let's keep Freedomclubusa going too.
MAYBE FREEDOMCLUB WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FINALLY MAKE THEIR PROCESS WORK IN A NONCONFRONTATIONAL WAY WITH THE BANKS, HARD TO SAY FOR SURE. ONE THING IS CERTAIN, THEY AREN'T GIVING UP AND THE GOVERNMENT SURELY HASN'T SHUT THEM DOWN.
I bet if we try real hard we can get Freeland OPPS rolling again.
NO ONE IS PROMOTING THAT, SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
If we try real real hard maybe all the HYIP's will actually start paying on a consistent basis. You know I'm noticing a pattern here. NONE OF THIS STUFF WORKS!!!!!!!! Maybe we are just giving up too easy.
THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE.
Maybe we are just not praying hard enough.
I'M SURE MOST IF NOT ALL OF US AREN'T PRAYING HARD ENOUGH.
Shame on us. We give up too easy. Shame!
I WASN'T TRYING TO SHAME ANYONE. I THINK THAT WAS YOUR INTENTION, AM I WRONG? MAYBE YOU WOULD FEEL BETTER IF EVEN KURT HIMSELF, LIKE GRAN TEASLEY SAID HE WAS GIVING UP SINCE THE TASK IS TOO LARGE AND IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8PMSZOQcmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cZJugwYwUM
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