This is considered a hot new crime. It is the oldest crime. For preceding every sin is on identity theft. Lying is identifying with Satan and not Christ. Stealing is becoming a taker instead of giving. Murder is thinking of ourselves more highly than we ought. If you are sincere about a relationship with God you will know that the spirit given you at your new birth only identifies with God. Look again at the temptation of Christ. How did His spirit respond? He identified Himself with God. In His first temptation of the body He kept His flesh in subjection to His spirit, in His second He was not insecure in His soul and kept His mind and emotions identified with God’s view of Him. In His third He understood that a righteous spirit worships God alone. Our new spirits are modeled here by Christ.
I started Dorean in righteousness by the guidance of His spirit. It attacked the works of the enemy in accordance with the will of the head and nature of Christ. Shall I tremble because all hell broke loose? No, I am delighted, I will continue down the same course that got the ire of the devil. If I am secure in my identity can I not see myself in this battle as God sees me? Whose reports will you believe? Some retard who knows not himself and has already been a victim of identity theft or your creator? The answer to me is clear and so is the course. Trusting God’s love and His word is the nature of the new spirit I received in Christ. My body and soul shall not be given governance over my spirit.
Scott and I know how to do the things the spirit requires of us and in this our unswerving confidence is justified. We know what God has said and we recognize the liars and their source. Day by day in cooperation with spirit we will be led to victory. If you can’t see it then someone stole your identity and can only imagine I will choose to lose mine. Rather let me encourage you by my faith to find yourself again.
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Dr Ira Gilac: You mentioned in a previous blog that Jerry Kane was doing the right process on dealing with foreclosure and that his process was winning against the banks so this was the reason he was shot and killed.
As I understand what he was doing, and correct me if I am wrong, he was revoking the banks power of attorney and rescinding the rights of the current trustee, and appointing a new trustee after first setting up a trust and quit claiming the property to the new trustee. Once that was done, the new trustee was cancelling the bank's lien based upon the banks fraud.
Now how is this process any different or superior than what the Dorean Group did?
Why would Jerry Kane's clients be any more successful than the Dorean Group clients?
I believe in every case the banks disregarded what was filed and created for the Dorean clients and every Dorean client got foreclosed on or received a notice of foreclosure in every instance where monthly payments were stopped and the courts supported the banks position by declaring the actions of this administrative process as mail fraud.
You indicated that Jerry Kanes way was the RIGHT WAY to deal with foreclosure and the bank loan fraud, yet you also say that Kurt underestimated his enemies?
Did Jerry Kane and his 16 year old son also underestimate his enemies by allowing themselves to be shot and killed at the parking lot of some Wal-Mart in Arkansas or wherever it was by a Swat Team? After all if they were smart enough, they would have known their enemies were coming after them and would have provided themselves an escape. Why not criticize them too which you haven't done?
I really don't see a significant difference here, other than Kurt & Scott are alive, and Jerry Kane and his son aren't. I don't mean to be insensitive here.
Can you explain? Both used an administrative process and why would Jerry Kane or his clients be any more successful or any more right or any more successful in any way?
OMO said: DSK is her pimp. And now he is facing another lawsuit. LoL.
I wonder what his wife thinks about all this. Poor thing. I'm almost certain she'll never want to touch that thing again. LoL
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Where's the evidence that DSK is running a prostitute ring and that DSK was the pimp of the black cleaning maid? Or are you just running a smear campaign like DSK's enemies too?
So what about him facing another lawsuit? The fact that he is possibly facing two lawsuits or court battles at the same time, just makes me believe it's more politically motivated than based upon real facts. The timing of this 2nd lawsuit now is very suspect too! It's about 7 years old from the alleged rape or sexual assault of this other victim. You would think if you were raped, or sexually assaulted, you wouldn't wait 7 years if you were adamant about getting justice from your attacker. That's strike one for her case for sure. Strike two is that there probably won't be any evidence or good testimony after 7 years, so she has no real significant chance of proving anything unless she decides to manufacture evidence and lie, just like the room maid did. Three strikes and you're out.
The wife might believe that he is innocent in both cases and might be supporting him totally. He might not even care if he is ever touched again by his wife. Why do you make suppositions and think you've reached an epiffany? Your conclusions are pure speculations as usual. No surprise there. LOL
Now how is this process any different or superior than what the Dorean Group did?
dint say that dg original process was that much differnet etc. changing the thristees. just that they should have stuck with that process and avoid completey entering the bar; gong into a courtroom.
Why would Jerry Kane's clients be any more successful than the Dorean Group clients?
apparently they were or they would still be alive and the banks knew it. if allowed to continue, the game would have been over for the banks.
You indicated that Jerry Kanes way was the RIGHT WAY to deal with foreclosure and the bank loan fraud, yet you also say that Kurt underestimated his enemies?
yes, it appears to everyone concerned that indeed jerry kanes way was the correct way to do it. thats why he was stopped. the banks could have taken him to court too, like the dg. they dint. WHY? they preferred to kill him intead.
Did Jerry Kane and his 16 year old son also underestimate his enemies by allowing themselves to be shot and killed at the parking lot of some Wal-Mart in Arkansas or wherever it was by a Swat Team?
in that case, i dont think that jerry kane "understimated" his enemies. i somehow believe taht he knew exactly how pwoerful they are/were. i just really dont think that he gave a f**k myself. he would say as much that he used to get threats all the time on the phone.
I really don't see a significant difference here, other than Kurt & Scott are alive, and Jerry Kane and his son aren't. I don't mean to be insensitive here.
in fact, you statement IS insensitive. the fact that kirk and scoot are still alive proves nothing. the goal was not to STAY ALIVE. the goal was to get the debt removed and the house free and clear. so you are saying that jerry lost because he is dead?! what kind of stupidity is that???
im glad that kirk and scoot are alife, but that wasnt the point.
Can you explain? Both used an administrative process and why would Jerry Kane or his clients be any more successful or any more right or any more successful in any way?
jerry kanes client were successful. the fact that they killed him proved just how dangerous he was to the bnanks. the dg started out as an admin process, but then truned into a legal one. maybe that was the goal from the beginning, to do so, in order to expose the fraud from that angle, while jerry used the admin angle.
look, nothing against kirk and scoot, but the fact is taht they were weak on pursuing the admin angle right to the end.
at some point, they got in over thier heads using the admin remedy.
and once they entered the bar, thier goose was cocked if not drunk.
if they dint enter the bar, they wunt be in jail right now.
rember how not to enter the BAR:
DONT SING ANYTHING!!
are yo capt. kirk?
no, i am not.
they can forcibly make yo enter the bar, so now, at the very least, yo at a stallmate.
they must find a way to trick yo into entering the bar.
could they forcibly?
probly.
but it still they best shot at it; avoiding entering.
and to tip it all off, it now becum a "relgious blaaaagh" of all thins.
ppl dint pay to get a relgius lesson, no matter what any nun thinx.
they should get back to writtin about they case an leff da relgion to da pasters and nones.
to a guy ho loose his house years ago, an maybe on the street, he dun even haf da intanest to reed da blaaagh.
waht good did it do him.
no good.
u think dat he want to hear about jesus now??
sure. he paid to get a relgous lesson on ho to loose his house.
he could hve gifted the $1000 to his own chruch and paster and nones.
i no, i no...da dg was a sussess.....
a sussess fo yo g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-grankids ho will get the afta dinna settle mints in 2025
btw, in case yo dint no, 'g' stand fo "great"
rember dat handsum guy ho fill all dose leans for billions agans the u.s. govt.
he did a 2 hr. talksho last nite.
go here and scroll down to the recored calls.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=39904&cmd=tc
here is the complete site:
http://www.talkshoe
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talkCast.
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904&cmd=tc
No matter how good Kane's "process" was, he deligitimized himself by taking on the entire Govt complex and brought on over whelming force. Their body's and van had more bullet holes than Bonnie and Clyde. The Court refering to Kurt and Scott as dissdents attempted to the uniformed(most)to claim them as sons of Kane.For better or worse DG strategy was to let the pride and arrogance of the beast consume them.For that you'll need a religion stronger than an AK-47.
No matter how good Kane's "process" was, he deligitimized himself by taking on the entire Govt complex and brought on over whelming force.
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none cents.
the process worked.
whether or not he decided to "take on the whole govt" is another matter...and his bizness,not yours.
he proved 2 things as a mater of fact.
1. his process worked, no question.
2. he also proved how criminal govt. will stop at nothing to silence the truth. he join JFK an others. he shoulod be inshrine as a mater of fact for what he did. just like they did for JFK, they should create a torch for an "eternal flame" for him.
like JFK, when they create a torch for an eternal flame, it the sign of a lou minotti hit.
anyway, jery kang is presrved for properity fo anynone who want to try it.
just yotube.com
all his taps are hear:
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dint say that dg original process was that much differnet etc. changing the thristees. just that they should have stuck with that process and avoid completey entering the bar; gong into a courtroom.
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Isn't that a ridiculous judgment by you? Think about it. Let's assume Kurt & Scott didn't enter the bar for the criminal prosecution. Do you think they would have been better off by not doing so? Would they have not gone to prison by refusing to enter the bar? If you don't fight the charges, the court will just intervene & proceed with the charges alone & give you the maximum sentence anyway or find you in default, and the Judge would just issue whatever order he wants.
Or are you so naiive to believe by not entering the bar, they wouldn't have gone to prison ?
Which is it?
Are you saying Sarah Magoon was smarter by fleeing the country to go to Canada? Rumor has it that she cut a deal with authorities, but who really knows? Maybe the powers- that- be, really didn't care that she went to Canada since the Brokers were just pawns in the game anyway. You can lose a pawn & still win the game.
Also by not fighting the charge, it would create an even "worse image problem" by people judging & saying, the Dorean Process was so corrupt and so impotent that the Principals wouldn't even bother to defend things by entering the bar & trying to justify or defend their actions.
apparently they were or they would still be alive and the banks knew it. if allowed to continue, the game would have been over for the banks.
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Surely you are smarter than that. You have now completely contradicted yourself. Two processes that are the same in substance, can't have one that is more successful than the other.
"Apparently they were. "
I'm not interested in conjecture or supposition. I'm interested in the facts. You don't know what the banks knew, nor can you speak for them.
Look, even Jerry Kane's wife doesn't understand why he was shot & why their son was brutally murdered either. She is guessing just like you what went on & why. I listened to her interview for over 2 hours. Maybe it had something to do with the banks, or maybe it was just a case of mistaken identity. There's no doubt that the powers that be made a huge mistake and breach of justice.
And no, I don't believe anything would be over for the banks had Jerry Kane lived. Your conclusions have no merit whatsoever. There's plenty of proof of the lending scam by the banks, yet they continue and nothing ends. The changing of trustees is not a new idea. It's been tried before many times. I think it just serves to prolong the foreclosure, but in the end, it seems the banks still evict the tenant because the courts support the bad behaviour of the banks. Banks foreclose on people where a mortgage doesn't even exist. Banks make up documents so they can foreclose. Banks don't hold the note, & still foreclose. Banks paperwork is often not even in order, & the courts still allow them to foreclose.
I haven't heard any one come forward & say that their bank completely gave up because a change of trustees was put on the record. If anything, you run the risk of being accused of paper terrorism, or mail fraud by changing the trustee, even though I agree, you have the right to do this.
If you don't fight the charges, the court will just intervene & proceed with the charges alone & give you the maximum sentence anyway or find you in default, and the Judge would just issue whatever order he wants.
Or are you so naiive to believe by not entering the bar, they wouldn't have gone to prison ?
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it doesnt matter.
you just dont enter the bar.
if nothing else, you give credibility to what they do.
if you play, how can you later claim that the justice system is a fraud?
(which it is) but why play at their game.
let them do what they want to, as yo cant stop them, but at least its w/o your consent.
of course they still may have gone to jail, they kill jerry kane, they can do anythin they like.
but the bottom line is that you still cannot enter the bar.
its plain ans simple.
they will do what they want to anyway, but at least you didnt go along.
when you enter, you ceded jurisdiction and became surety for your strawman.
even if they thro you in jail, you still have not willingly becum surety for you s/man.
and further, what was the point if they started off using admin remedy, to then go into court??
then that means that they really didnt beleive in their admin remedy in the first place??
you cant put all your effort into one and then switch to another.
its apples and organges.
if they really beleived in admin remedy, then they shoudl have stuck with it.
always quoting CFR 72.11 that ALL CRIME IS COMMERCIAL.
waht was that all about?
was it all just really a commercial too??
or an "infomercial" as they call them now?
the banks could have taken him to court too, like the dg. they dint. WHY? they preferred to kill him instead.
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I don't know all of the facts so I can't really say. I think in the end the powers that be are going to regret their decision to take their lives by taking the easy way out by killing those two, and I think the wife will in the end be financially compensated greatly.
Taking their lives didn't destroy the information or the concept, so taking their lives didn't really accomplish anything except maybe deter someone else from doing what Jerry Kane was doing. The killing did create a sanction to dissuade someone else from taking the lead & trying to educate the public on a large scale. After all, most aren't willing to put their life in jeopardy over a stand. I wonder if Jerry's wife has any regrets? She says she feels that "she is a target", yet she hasn't taken any real precausions about her belief. She has also turned down help from other people to make her more safe. I don't really know if she had to do it all over again if she would have done things any differently or even suggested that her husband & son do things differently in retrospect. Jerry Kane was maybe too adamant about "gun rights" and what he would do if he was pushed or put in a corner & maybe he should not have been so public & vocal about that. Maybe that could have made a difference in him living today, who really knows? Maybe some of his comments were taken as threats? Again, I am just purely speculating.
And you wonder if setting an example by killing people really works as a sanction? It seems there are more debt elimination programs & ways to fight the banks more than ever now, and the landscape and perception and image of lending & banking has really changed since the Dorean Group began. The pristine image of bankers surely has been shattered, but it's still business as usual.
in that case, i dont think that jerry kane "understimated" his enemies. i somehow believe taht he knew exactly how pwoerful they are/were. i just really dont think that he gave a f**k myself. he would say as much that he used to get threats all the time on the phone.
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Of course he underestimated the power of his enemies. The fact is HE'S DEAD, ALONG WITH HIS SON, AND LEFT A WIDOW AND HAD NO INSURANCE. It's not a pretty situation at all.
You think the Dorean Group never received a threat? You want to make it look like somehow things are different?
in fact, you statement IS insensitive. the fact that kirk and scoot are still alive proves nothing. the goal was not to STAY ALIVE. the goal was to get the debt removed and the house free and clear. so you are saying that jerry lost because he is dead?! what kind of stupidity is that???
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I think the goal is to stay alive, stay out of jail, AND get your mortgage cancelled. I think the goal is to try and have it all, but that isn't always possible in the real world.
Yes, Jerry lost because he is dead. He can no longer do his work because he is dead. If he wanted to finish what he started, he is no longer able to do this. Jerry is in a worse situation than Kurt & Scott & in one sense swallowed a worse fate.
It's just like what you said when the powers that be cause an earthquake or sunami in Japan. The elite have already killed you, or have won because they have poisoned the environment. It's over for many. Your words, not mine.
And the Dorean Process did remove the debt. The point is this didn't stop the banks from foreclosing on Dorean clients any more than Jerry Kane's process stopped the banks from foreclosing on their clients, so how is one more successful than the other? You still haven't answered that question.
I think the wife will in the end be financially compensated greatly.
ill bet you that she wuld ratrher have jerry back.
She says she feels that "she is a target", yet she hasn't taken any real precausions about her belief.
i agree.
why bother?
the leos are the ones responsible, so who is she going to get to protect her?
more leos?
if they really want you, theres noone who can really protect you.
Of course he underestimated the power of his enemies. The fact is HE'S DEAD,
NO, IT DOESNT PORVE TAHT AT ALL, IT JUST PROVES WHAT I HAD SAID EARLIER: HE KNEW THE RISKS, BUT HE DIDNT GIVE A F**K.
IF YOUR CARRYING AROUND AR-15s, you not defiending youself from a mugger. you expect taht someday karma is going to catch up to you and you will shoot it out with the leos. same as happen in wacko tx years ago. cornish no eventaully what was gong to cum down, but he didnt care.
quesion was, did everynone else with him no that it would cum down to that???
the goal was to get the debt removed and the house free and clear.
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Again, no difference between the two processes.
I think the wife will in the end be financially compensated greatly.
yea, just like the settle mints...it will leaf a bad taste in her moth until 2048 wehn she get her settle mints for wrongful death of jerry.
her too g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g grankinds can enjoy the taste of the settle mints!!!
"...will in the end all be daid."
evrythns hoppens "in the end"....
even dats where jug beans take it, "in the end"
Yes, Jerry lost because he is dead
at least jerry had b@@ls and dint wimp out.
he die like a man, no ascarred like everynone else lives.
i guess that he must be angry that he dint take at least some of them with him?
but no matta, like they say, waht go around, cum around (in the end)
jerry kanes client were successful. the fact that they killed him proved just how dangerous he was to the bnanks. the dg started out as an admin process, but then truned into a legal one. maybe that was the goal from the beginning, to do so, in order to expose the fraud from that angle, while jerry used the admin angle.
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Jerry kane & son being dead only proves we live in a stupid police state where police often do things they shouldn't. The media wants you to believe Jerry Kane was dangerous & that was the justification to kill him. Jerry Kane was not a threat to the banks as I mentioned earlier.
The Dorean process didn't turn into a legal process, although the courts were used in a dozen cases to sue the banks to see if any case precedent could be set, but of course that was just wishful & foolish thinking. Nothing good came out of that. That was already admitted as a tactical mistake. Remember there were about 5500 clients. If it were turned into a legal process, than 5500 clients would have been defended in the courts by the process, would they not? Of course that didn't happen either. Having criminal actions filed was beyond the control of the Dorean Process so it's silly to infer that the Dorean Process had anything to do with that malicious prosecution.
Again, both processes were administrative processes ignored by the banks & ignored by the courts.
true....
"in the end"....jerry's dead and kirk and scoot in jail and everyone still loosed they house.
so, "in the end", ho won?
nooone.
like yo say about jerry, i wanna no if kirk and soot would do it all ova agian if they knew this would be the result?
i would bet NOT!!!
no matta ho much money they got, look at all the cost.
7 yrs of they life?
probly 2 marraiges?
stranged from they father for all this time?
stranged from they kids all this time?
an on tip of it all, they not even done doon time yet
was it all worth it even if they get $100M in settle mints back?
ho do yo get the time back?
Nothing good came out of that.
and they should not have entered the bar. period.
at least jerry had b@@ls and dint wimp out.
he die like a man, no ascarred like everynone else lives.
i guess that he must be angry that he dint take at least some of them with him?
but no matta, like they say, waht go around, cum around (in the end)
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Again, you are suggesting things with no merit. You are suggesting Jerry had balls and Kurt & Scott don't, yet you show no proof of that statement. If anything you are exposing your own silly prejudices which I already could readily see even before this discussion started.
Why are we arguing whether Jerry kane had balls or not? That is a side issue never challenged. I am arguing whether their is any significant difference in the processes and hoped you would input something significant here which you haven't thus far !!
How did the Dorean Group whimp out? You completely lost me there if that is what you are suggesting.
No, he didn't die like a man, he died like a mutilated animal or prey being shot a hundred times like he was John Dilinger WHICH HE WASN'T. He died an ignominous death which he didn't deserve. He didn't die like a man. He wasn't treated like he was a man in his last hour of life.
You think Kurt is scared? You must because you used the word, "everyone else". Where's your evidence of that? He is done nothing to show a lack of courage ever.
Is that what a real man does? He kills others as he is going down too? I think you've watched too much television. Are you suggesting that Jerry Kane was some sort of angry Vidulante who was seeking to avenge his enemies by seeking their blood and life too? Is that your concept of a "real man"?
Of course it matters. Everything matters.
How did the Dorean Group whimp out? You completely lost me there if that is what you are suggesting.
i never said spefically dat the dg wimped out.
and i have no predice agains kirk eether. wake up!
yes, jerry did die like a dog in the street, but at least he was unafraid, unlike most ppl.
dont know that i would do what he did myself, becase i know what the ptb are culpable of: stone cold killing someone with no recourse.
and yes, the car look just like boony and clines from da movie therof
i even fell bad fo they dawg who was in the car with em.\
po bastit.
anyway, it all be settle soon.
not the settle mints, but 2012.
the date is real and this plant is gong to cahnge big time way beffore then.
like yo sayed: just sit back and watch it hoppens beefo yo i's.
erthquaks, torndos, soonarmi's, fluds, nook plants, etc.
they even gonna shut down the pwoer grids soon.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/controlled-power-cuts-likely-as-sun-storm-threatens-national-grid-2296748.html
Nothing good came out of that.
and they should not have entered the bar. period.
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I think that's really debateable. I think the court record is further proof of the corruptness of the court, the wrongful charges that were lodged, and it's premature to say that no good has come out of that.
And as far as the idea they should have never entered the bar, I really don't think that a refusal would have made any difference anyway. Do you think they would be both free today if they didn't enter the bar? If that's not the point you are making, what point are you really making? What good or change today would have been accomplished by refusing to enter the courtroom? And you know this because?????
How you can make positive conclusions on a supposition that can't be proven, is beyond my understanding.
So, your position is NEVER ATTEND ANY COURT AT ANYTIME? How has that worked for you in your own personal life?
and amost forget, the sun is gong crazy too. gonna cau;s;e all this sh8t
welcome to da AGE OF AQUARIUS form that 60s song whihc is true.
and i have no predice agains kirk eether. wake up!
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Oh, I think you do, especially when you say they made huge mistakes and that one process is better than the other.
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
Oh, I think you do, especially when you say they made huge mistakes and that one process is better than the other.
thats MY judgement AND I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE IT!
i guess that you never judge anything...or that you are predice agans me for judging that i am incorrect in my judgement.
HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
yet you judge jerry for getting killed doon what he ws doon.
kirk was unsucessful in saving ppls houses and unsessufl in staying out of jail.
how was his way the rigth way????
and i alreaydy know that the sytem is courrupt..and so did he?
so then what exactly was he trying to do or prove?
maybe the truth is that it was all an ego trip to begin with.
easy money and glory all at once for saving ppls houses and getting them money plus all the money he would have made from it. not from the dg fees, but from the settlemints for himself.
sometimes the truth hurts, but soemtimes it is what it is.
pride and ego notwithstanding.
like yo say about jerry, i wanna no if kirk and soot would do it all ova agian if they knew this would be the result?
i would bet NOT!!!
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And I say, you would lose your bet.
It's not about the material things in life, it's all about the spiritual things & answering the call & following the will of the Lord at whatever cost.
Isn't that what a true Christian does? I would like to think you understand that, but maybe I have my doubts there. Maybe you don't by your own admission even believe that you are even capable of being a true Christian by our own admission of weaknesses.
If you bet against Kurt, which you openly & admittedly have, by saying "he has regrets", you in essence have judged him, even though you say you have no prejudices (LOL) and said that he isn't a true Christian and wouldn't follow the Lord if the costs were too great, which there is no debate on how high the costs have been already.
It's not about the material things in life, it's all about the spiritual things
thats the problem with most "christians", they "pick and choose" accordingly to what fits.
i agree that we live in a spritual world.
but if it really all about spirit, then you really dont need to do anything eether. just let the spirit/god take care of your mtg.
but christians pick and choose what to let god take caer of and what they bleef they must take care of themselfs.
cant have it both ways < >
And I say, you would lose your bet.
rnt yo making a jugmint here??
thought so.
so then what exactly was he trying to do or prove?
maybe the truth is that it was all an ego trip to begin with.
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He's trying to be the best trustee he can for all clients and following the call & will of the Lord. Shouldn't that be obvious to someone that says "that you can believe no man, but the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit?" If you say you have the Spirit yet are unable to feel that Spirit in another man who speaks that same will, than isn't your assertion of the Holy Spirit's importance only rhetoric by you , and haven't you made the Holy Spirit's function as a "comforter" or "attestation" irrelevant?
Well if you believe it's an ego trip, you most certainly can't believe that Kurt & Scott answered any call from the Lord, so in essence you are saying you don't believe them, which in essence you believe them to be liars. Again, you are exhibiting your own deep rooted prejudices & lack of trust by your own chosen words, thoughts and questions.
Ego trip? No, that doesn't make much sense at all. Egocentrical people are also quitters and give up when things get too difficult, because if it's about "self", and not other people, why finish the race or be true to your clients? Egocentrical people don't know how to truly love and end up being poor sports or even bad marriage partners.
Do you think the Spirit and those that possess the Holy Spirit have such glaring doubts in their own minds as you do about Kurt's character?
You know nothing about how the Spirit really works and inspires people based upon your own doubts that you exhibit. If a man is truly called of God, and you are possessed with the same spirit of the Lord, you don't have doubts of his call like you have. You don't waver like a "wave of the sea, that is thrown around with the wind every which way and tossed" based upon a weather change or change in life. Maybe this, maybe that..... No, the Spirit doesn't deal in "maybes", but in truth and assurances, of things that will be, or things that are, or things that have already been, and peace of mind and spirit, and hope, faith, and charity, and victory. There is no room for doubts and fears when you truly are possessed with the spirit. There are no maybes, no suppositions, you just know and that feeling is confirmed. And if you have ever felt it even once having the Spirit confirm a truth to you, are you going to deny it at a later date, and say, well maybe I was just experiencing heart burn or something like that & try to explain your spiritual experience away as foolishness? Maybe this, maybe that.....LOL
Maybe this, maybe that.....LOL
EXACTLY!!!
you can go round and round and ......
fact is:
noone has their house paid
most have lost it to the banks.
noone has they settle mints yet.
kirk an co. are still in jail.
7 years are gone by.
i no, i no...we already have those things in "the sprit"
ok, so then like the wizard of ours, we always had them anways and dint need the dg.
just "believe" and its done.
the babble say that too!
rnt yo making a jugmint here??
thought so.
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I never said making judgments was evil or bad, but if you make wrongful judgments, or unfair judgments, than this is wrong and needs to be acknowledged.
You are so sure you are correct, but there are many holes in many of your arguments.
I don't pick & choose as you say what principles I need to follow. Either a principal is from God or it is not. If it is, I should follow it. If I don't follow the word, than there is "identity theft" on that particular issue since I am not in congruence with the will of the Spirit.
Either Kurt & Scott were called and led by the Spirit to start the Dorean Group or they weren't. Either Kurt is continually being led by the Spirit or he isn't! It's really quite that simple. It's not a picking & choosing issue here as you suggest. LOL
These are black & white issues here.
Either Kurt & Scott were called and led by the Spirit to start the Dorean Group or they weren't. Either Kurt is continually being led by the Spirit or he isn't!
yes, and these same cretans also bleef in killing and joining the miltry to kill others.
i no...i no..its no killing, the babble probits 'murder'.... all obfuscation.
nothing more dangerious than misguided cretans.
so what happens to those who are not cretans and dont bleef the babble.
do they have the spirit of god?
i no waht they dont have.
7 years and no money, no settlemints and they lost their houses and teh dg fees to boot.
they paid for 7 years of a relgious blaaaaagggggh.
ok then.
let me borry $5000 and i will pay yo back in 7 days.
and each time yo axe for yo money, i dealy till its 7 years lateer.
i will also keep telling you that you have already been paid in the "spirt"
you would have me put in jail long before then.
i just cant take ppl who say thins and then cant back it up.
it just all bullshit
that all it is.
but bullshit go round and round and ......
if you tried to do taht, borry money an keep stallin someone, they would kill you after a while.
try telling them that you have paid them already "in the spirit" and you will be dispatched "in the spirit" very quickly, like anis an saffire was, only by a bullit in the head
and to tip it all off, it now becum a "relgious blaaaagh" of all thins.
ppl dint pay to get a relgius lesson, no matter what any nun thinx.
they should get back to writtin about they case an leff da relgion to da pasters and nones.
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Really, I expect more from you. A religious blog? Give me a break!
When clients joined the Dorean Process, a blog or even the existence of one, was never even an issue.
You would think that Kurt & Scott being religious men or men of God, would be a comfort instead of a negative thing to another professed Christian, but I guess not. LOL
No, people didn't pay for a religious lesson, that's just an extra benefit that people didn't have to pay for and got for free anyway as an extra benefit.
Yes, leave God and religion, and morality out of all of this. Try and separate the material things from the spiritual things as only you can do well. LOL
Kind of sad that you want adamantly to have the right to speak any opinion or judgment you want, even when you are often off base and even wrong or judged wrongly, but you want to also censor Kurt when he speaks of spiritual or religious things ON HIS OWN BLOG. Even though you know he ties all of these religious things into why Dorean clients can and should believe he will be victorious and to increase their faith. Should everything be about money anyway? After looking at the expectations of most clients, or even those that weren't clients like yourself, maybe it always was about money, and money only, and freeing oneself from a mortgage with no hassels or issues whatsoever.
Obviously you don't find his religious gems of truth as inspiring or even comforting or even valuable? What does that say about you and your ability to hear the Spirit or recognize it's worth?
You can't separate God from this lending fraud issue anyway. Either God is for the existing financial system & status quo or he is not. Either lending as we know it, is a moral & ethical issue, or it is not.
In all fairness half of the blogs speak about religious things, and the other half of the blogs speak of secular things that involve clients and the courts. Let's not exaggerate here, as exaggerations are only an attempt to manipulate the real truth and facts, which manipulation of reality seems to be one of your best traits sometimes.
I'm still waiting for the complete evacuation of all of Florida from the Gulf oil spill.
Should everything be about money anyway?
absolotly!!
it was/is always about the money.
if it wasnt about the money, then teh dg should have been for free.
i no...i no....they had expesnes to pay....but it wasnt about the money...but it was about the money..but it wasnt about....
round and round bs....
No, people didn't pay for a religious lesson, that's just an extra benefit that people
what was the "first" benfit that they paid for??
lol!!!!
alomost forgot. losing they house....
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
but you want to also censor Kurt when he speaks of spiritual or religious things ON HIS OWN BLOG.
YOUR RIGHT!!!
i shunt really say anythins to the 2 ppl still redding this blaaaagh...me an yo!!!
lolololol!!!!!!11
if it wasnt about the money, then teh dg should have been for free.
clints should have been allowed to "pay in kind", ie., pay in "spirit"
as youve said taht its all about the spirit anywyas.
but kepp gong...redding yo anwers is crackin me up!!!
lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, can yo lone me about $5K??
ill pay yo back in 7 days.
i promise.
back by the bull fate and credit of myslef.
honest!!!
lolololololo!!!!
btw....
i do bleef dat eventually the dg will get they settle mints.
and thats only becasue i do bleef that there really exist:
global settle mints
debt forgiveness
iraq dinar reval
etc
and last but not lest
dg settle mints.
OOOPS!!!!
all most forgot!!!
burly baals HYIPs too!!!!
all dose hi yeel pogroms will finaly payout.
he say as much on his blog.
f it wasnt about the money, then teh dg should have been for free.
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I can tell by your unrealistic comments you have never run a business in your entire life.
what was the "first" benfit that they paid for??
lol!!!!
alomost forgot. losing they house...
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Look on the bright side of things. This just means more damages, and a bigger pay day in the end.
fact is:
noone has their house paid
most have lost it to the banks.
noone has they settle mints yet.
kirk an co. are still in jail.
7 years are gone by.
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Fact is it's not over, so your points are meaningless since even you say that clients will get their settlements in the end. And I seriously doubt it's a fact that most have lost their homes.
Most probably never stopped making their payments after they saw that the banks didn't honor their mortgage discharge or anyone's mortgage discharge.
Dorean never promised to pay off your house, just discharge the mortgage. I realize that it is going to be 7 years since the Dorean Group was created come Jan. 2012. You're still exaggerating a bit as usual. It might be 5.5 years since they were in jail. At a million dollars/day in damages, for false incarceration, what does that compute to anyway? And if they are out of jail in less than 18 months from today for example, let's say, was it worth it? That might still be less than the 7 years they were offered as a plea bargain in the beginning which they rejected.
Fact is it's not over, so your points are meaningless
fact is, thats exactly why the points are right on.
its not over and wont be till 2025.
will yo still be round by then?
will any noun??
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