By all indications my exit is approaching me quickly. The bond case ruled on June 16, 2011 out of the Supreme Court completely changed the game. With record speed new developments are passing through the courts so quickly are the changes coming that I can honestly say the 12-18 months I’m seeing as a possibility for my release could be substantially shortened.
A man at my prison put in a bond brief on his appeal and was calendared for oral arguments in 48 hours. This normally takes 6-15 months, other examples are coming daily. A man out of New York filed a Bond brief on June 29 and by July 12th his indictment was dismissed. He had already been convicted.
Under Bond our conviction are deemed unconstitutional which can also be translated as illegal for all those so proud of your government in this case. The particulars your can discover from my briefs filed in the criminal case out of the Northern District of California 05-CR-00611WJA.
Our conviction and our wasted (stolen) appeal was nothing but bully pirates functioning as political hacks to protect the fraudsters from your legitimate complaint. They threw us as patsies to you with a propaganda placebo to get you to hate your friends while they broke the law and robbed you. Well soon our mighty God will deliver us and then it is my prayer by this same power He will equip us to bring His deliverance to you. That is the true Bond that made the difference.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 755 of 755That's why the county doesn't have to use the courts to get you out of the house. The assumed owner automatically loses by default to the bank or to the county by auction.
So if you think you are going to get a house for free, forget it. You may or may not win on the front end, and you certainly will lose on the back end if the tax isn't paid.
Oh, and I hope Ms. Kitty is paying her property taxes, because even if acknowledging the grant as deed perfects her title, doesn't mean she owns the home. It only means she gets to stay in her home, but only IF she isn't behind in her property taxes.
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You're completely missing the point. The reason why the County can tax the home is because you aren't an owner. The title has been abandoned because you haven't accepted & acknowledged it. Once you become an owner, you are no longer a renter. County only taxes properties where people are only a renter & have not perfected their title. You have an inferior title until you do this.
So if you think you are going to get a house for free, forget it.
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Kitty's case proves you are wrong. At the recorders office Freddie Mac is no longer the owner of record. She is.
Also one person did the process, and one of the ladys at the tax office admitted that the home could no longer be legally taxed. Not all properties can be taxed. You should at least understand that.
Look I'm not going to argue this "free thing" with you. First of all the alleged loan, promise of extension of credit, was paid at closing, so there is no obligation to the lender anyway from day one even before any mortgage payment is due 30 days after close. There's nothing free about it. An exchange was given, that's all, NO LOAN. SO DON'T BRING UP THIS FREE ISSUE. I'M TIRED OF HEARING THIS ARGUMENT.
I'm just telling you what your remedy is. You won't understand this possible unless you do it. the theory is sound.
And being a man doesn't mean only listening to yourself. That's ridiculous! Accepting the truth wherever it comes from is being a man.
"If a deed be delivered by the grantor to the register of deeds for the grantees use, and afterwards assented to by the grantee, A TITLE VESTS IN HIM FROM THE TIME OF GIVING ASSENT, as against attaching creditors of the grantor." Hedge v. Drew xiii 141.
OMO: To show how wrong you are, let me give you an example in my own life. I bought a mobile many years ago for cash. Didn't go through a dealer. I dealt with the factory direct. I I got an MSO (Manufactured Statement of Origion) for proof of my ownership. THIS IS ALSO CALLED A FACTORY TITLE. This is a superior title to the title the County Recorder gives you. Had I not have given up the MSO to the tax office, the mobile home would have never been taxed, and the tax office would have never had a 1st position against that property (mobile home) I paid cash for. Being stupid, I relinquished superior title, and was given an inferior title by the tax office. I did that because I was brainwashed into believing that the law required it. Do you know what the tax office does with MSO's? They take them & destroy them.
To say that all properties must be taxed, or you lose it, is also to deny the existence of "land patents" too, or properties granted to you by the government, which can't be taxed either. Or to deny the existence of Indian tribes & their lands which aren't taxed either. Yea, just listen to yourself. Don't listen to anyone else. You know everything.
That's why the county doesn't have to use the courts to get you out of the house. The assumed owner automatically loses by default to the bank or to the county by auction.
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You're talking about 99.99% of all the people that don't realize they have to accept their grant deed.
I'm not talking about all those people.
The man/woman who sold us the home gave us clear title and absolute and complete title in the Warranty Deed that we failed to accept at closing.
So, for a short time we were lawfully seized of the estate as it says in the Deed of Trust, thus we were able to pledge the property as collateral for the extension of credit given by the bank. And since we did not “accept” the original Warranty Deed , the County deems it abandoned and takes ownership. Sees that we are living in the home they charge us rent, (property tax), and the county becomes the first lien holder and the bank is second lien holder.
We sign the Deed of Trust and Promissory Note to bank for currency we created and promise to pay them on the note for thirty years.
We now accept the Warranty Deed and do the process and have clear title to home.
The bank will continue to force the issue on the promissory note, but I know we have the skills to stay out of court with that one. And it is my thinking at this point the promissory note is no different than a credit card for now it is no longer collateralized by the home any longer since you acknowledged the deed and perfected the title to a superior position over the bank who only has "marketable title", which is title with defects. The defect is that someday you will come & claim your home through an acknowledgment of the grant deed. Rights of title come through a contract. You are not a party to the grant deed because your signature is no where to be found on that deed. The property is considered abandoned until you acknowledge that the home is your property and record this at the County Recorders Office. The County has a right to tax abandoned properties, not properties that you have perfected the title of true ownership interest.
What I just told you is based upon alot of research I did not present to you. I just want you to understand the basic concept.
Whoever pays the tax, assumes 100% responsibility for the property-
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First of all, you can pay the tax, or get a tax certificate from the County, and totally not assume the responsibility of the property. You can let the property go to hell. It's happening in alot of neighborhoods. Repairs don't get made, lawns don't get mowed, etc. Many banks are getting sued for not accepting true responsibility even though they assume the real estate tax on a foreclosure & are getting sued from the counties for allowing property values to go down by letting properties go to hell. Many banks refuse to pay the back real estate taxes because the taxes exceed the value of the homes in some neighborhoods like Detroit and Cleveland.
"Another interesting thing is that a government agency was listed as the grantor on our Warranty deed. The Auditor said that since the land was granted to you from the government…. that you should have not been paying an excise tax.
When i looked on the Warranty Deed it said “EXEMPT FORM EXCISE”. I said you mean to tell me when the governments grants land to a man or woman…there is not supposed to be a tax….she said yes. what I saw in there was everything you had talked about."
Perfecting title isn’t going to save the home if the property tax is not paid.
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I'm not talking about taxes that were legally due when you were a renter prior to accepting your grant deed. Yes, you probably have to pay those delinquent taxes since they were legally assessed prior to you perfecting the title, but I'm not sure what recourse the County really has if you just didn't pay them.
Now I'm still unclear if the County can legally foreclose on you for back real estate taxes if you don't pay those back taxes after you have acknowledged your deed. Maybe they can't, I don't really know. I don't think it's ever been tested yet. We'll see. It's not as if you granted the County a mortgage and a secured interest like you did with the bank, although the banks interest is secondary to the tax office. The banks inferior title is impotent once you become an owner , so why not the County? Taxes are not debts, but are assessments. The County can't sue you in court for these back taxes, although they will probably threaten to do so.
To be safe, I will assume the tax office can sale your home if the back taxes aren't paid, the taxes that accrued while the home was abandoned.
Many counties will accept payments if you just work it out & not foreclose through a public sale.
I'm saying after you accept the grant deed, the county can no longer legally tax the home as it is no longer abandoned, and you are no longer a renter, but an owner/landlord, so you don't have to necessarily get screwed on the back end here by the tax man even if you beat the bank.
If you assumed to be owner, pay the tax, because if you don't, whoever pays the tax will be the next assumed owner.
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In tax certificate States, like Iowa, not "deed states", where you in essence buy tax liens from the County where taxes aren't being paid to the county, that "tax certificate" does not give you IMMEDIATE OWNERSHIP or a tax title to the property just by paying, and the tax office does not assume you to be the owner of record.
In those "tax certificate" states, you have to provide notice, and go through a foreclosure process and the owner has to be so many years delinquent even before you can provide legal notice before you are assumed to be the owner & before the tax office will give you a tax deed saying you are the owner.
In a tax deed State, the county has an auction, and if you are the high bidder, or buy the back taxes, you get immediately a tax deed upon payment of the back tax. I believe there is no right of redemption in a tax deed state auction like say Texas for example. So it's more complicated and diverse than your simplistic remarks.
anyone who has paid the property tax has a right to litigate title even after foreclosure by a bank;
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The bank clears up all back taxes long before you even think about litigating if you have a tax certificate interest in the home.
If the assumed owner fails to pay the tax (i.e. abandoning assumed ownership of the property) then he/she forfeits any and all rights to the property.
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Certainly not true if the property was illegally taxed. That happens occasionally. Property could have been owned by a Church which is not taxable. You don't think a church could come back & overturn the tax sale?
THE point is the property is abandoned from day one since you didn't acknowledge & accept your grant deed even if you pay the taxes every year and keep the taxes current, until you do so, the home is still abandoned and you are still just a renter, even if you think you are the owner. What gives the Sheriff the right to sell the property is because it is abandoned. In Ohio, when a home has been foreclosed upon, a sticker is put on the door, "Home abandoned".
Like i said some States have a right of redemption after the tax sale, so again, you are wrong. You don't lose any & all rights to the home just from an auction sale. Laws vary from state to state.
You don't always lose any & all rights or interest on a tax sale or even to a foreclosure. Stop making blanket & general statements that simply aren't true.
For example, let's say the home is worth $100,000, and you left owing $10,000 in taxes. Let's also say that at the tax sale, the bidder who bought the house paid $50,000 on his bid at the sale & he got the home for half of what it was worth.
If you lost all rights or all interest in the home, you wouldn't be getting back $40,000, FROM THE SALE, BUT IN FACT YOU DO IF YOU CLAIM IT. That's all you have to do, just like I'll you have to do is claim the grant deed. $10,000 FROM THE SALE GOES TO THE TAX OFFICE for what's due them, AND $40,000 GOES BACK TO THE OWNER OF THE HOME that lost his home through a tax sale. The tax office can not legally keep all of the $50,000, but they do if you abandon those funds and ask for them. All you have to do is claim the $40,000 through a request after the sale.
So if a home goes to auction and the person gets back $40,000 from a tax sale, they are in fact not losing all interest in the home AS YOU SUGGEST. As a matter of fact, the person is getting paid a portion of their past interest.
Your ignorance sometimes is appalling and your general statements on how the system really works is often just as absurd and flawed.
If you assumed to be owner, pay the tax, because if you don't, whoever pays the tax will be the next assumed owner.
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First of all, I don't know what an "assumed owner" is.
Either you are the recorded owner, or you are a renter. There's no assuming here.
You can pay all the taxes you want for someone else for as many years as you want, but if someone comes in & accepts the grant deed before you attempt to foreclose as someone with a tax certificate interest, you aren't going to be the next owner because someone already beat you to the recording of the status of owner. "First in time, first in line" as far as the title is concerned.
It seems to me that whoever pays the property taxes has the final word, given the fact that property taxes is the responsibility of the (assumed) owner.
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Debts are a responsibility or an obligation. Taxes are an assessment, which means they are NOT a responsibility or an obligation. You cannot be forced to pay a real estate tax and treat the tax as an obligation.
Paying the tax gives you the final word???? What the heck does that mean? All you have is a lien holder interest. Lien holders don't have final words on what is done with the property. Can lien holders tell you who you can rent to, or who can live there or what you can do with the home? Are you suggesting since you paid a tax that you have the final word & you can say, hey Mr. renter get out of the house, I don't have to take you to court, I'm moving in, because "I have the final word." Yea, see how far that gets you. The renter will call the sheriff & you will go to jail for trespassing and harassment.
I was mistaken. If the taxpayer fails to pay tax after 3 years the tax collector has the option of foreclosing. I thought foreclosure was only possible after 5 years of nonpayment, but its 3 years.
http://www.ehow.com/list_7229613_california-foreclosure-property-tax-laws.html
Debts are a responsibility or an obligation. Taxes are an assessment, which means they are NOT a responsibility or an obligation. You cannot be forced to pay a real estate tax and treat the tax as an obligation.
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Well, I'd say that it was an obligation, since you agreed to pay it when you signed the contract. If you don't believe you are obligated to pay the real estate tax, then don't pay it and see what happens.
Also one person did the process, and one of the ladys at the tax office admitted that the home could no longer be legally taxed. Not all properties can be taxed. You should at least understand that.
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Just because one of the ladies at the tax office said that the home could no longer be legally taxed doesn't mean it is true. Only the tax collector can make that dream come true, by putting his money where his mouth is, in writing. If you don't know that much, Joseph, you've got some serious stuff going on blocking your view of reality.
What gives the Sheriff the right to sell the property is because it is abandoned. In Ohio, when a home has been foreclosed upon, a sticker is put on the door, "Home abandoned".
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Well, the Sheriff does not sell the property. Selling the property is the tax collector's job. The Sheriff gets involved because he has the gun. He might need the weapon just in case there is resistance to leave the property.
Abandoned means deserted. The reasons for desertion is unknown except to the deserter.
Abandoned means deserted. The reasons for desertion is almost always unknown, except to the deserter.
"is unknown except to the deserter.
but most pepples will chose to eat settle mints for there dessert, unless it hot outside?
99% of the time the deserter did not desert the property--more likely he was forced out. The property could have been paid in full, but if he failed to pay the tax, forfeits his right to own. That's the way it is under this system. I'm not saying it is right or wrong- I'm just saying that it is the way it is.
And again if you don't want to have to answer to anyone, then find another way to live, because under this system, you will eventually be made to answer to someone, and that someone has someone else to answer to, on down the line.
KARMA IS A BEACH!!!
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NYC Law Firm That Mocked Homeless During Company Halloween Party Goes Out of Business
Karma is a bitch!
[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]
Kyle Leighton November 21, 2011, 3:35 PM 45842 293
The 89 employees of a New York law firm specializing in foreclosures who dressed as homeless people during an office Halloween party last year have been thrown out on the street.
Steven J. Baum P.C., a firm that specialized in foreclosures, is closing its doors a month after photos showing employees celebrating Halloween by dressing like the homeless surfaced in a New York Times column by Joe Nocera.
SNIP
On Saturday, Joe Nocera, The Times columnist who originally wrote about the firm’s Halloween party, published another column about the controversy. In it, he quoted an e-mail that Mr. Baum had sent him last week.
“Mr. Nocera — You have destroyed everything and everyone related to Steven J. Baum PC,” said the letter. “It took 40 years to build this firm and three weeks to tear down.”
First of all, I don't know what an "assumed owner" is.
Either you are the recorded owner, or you are a renter. There's no assuming here.
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"The name that appears on the county tax roll is treated as the property owner."
http://www.ehow.com/list_7229613_california-foreclosure-property-tax-laws.html
Notice that it does not say that the name that appears on the county tax roll IS the property owner. It states that the name on the county tax roll is "treated" as property owner. Therefore whoever pays the tax is ASSUMED to be the property owner.
So there is no need for any other paperwork proving you are owner. Simply look for the name on county tax roll and voila... owner found!
Our entire system of taxation is immoral, because our monetary system is immoral.
Here's the definition from Johnson's (1765)
Immoral. Wanting regard to the laws of natural religion; contrary to honesty; dishonest.
So a religious person is an honest person. How many religious people do you know? Is your boss an honest person? Is your banker an honest person? Do you have honest friends? Who do you trust?
The only person I trust is my mother, but then again, she brought me into this dishonest world. How can you trust anyone who does that? LoL
Here's the definition from Dictionary.com
im·mor·al
adjective
1. violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics.
2. licentious or lascivious.
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My my... how times have changed: from moral to immoral.
"Here's the definition from Johnson's (1765)
ho dat??
dat dr. flinstons g/g/g/g/granfodder?
was he in da dg to?
Samuel Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language (1765)
His dictionary is honest- unlike Noah Webster
oh, ok...
tawt dat it was dr. flinsons long lost reltif...like bonny rumble.
hanker grupe, a nano mouse declares...
"WAR ON THE SYSTEM"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5rrom93aQ&feature=player_embedded
thins shud get berry intersted in the nes foo wekks...
Joseph, do you have more info or a link for this, Warranty Deed acceptance issue?
Strat: Here you go:
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Robb-Ryder.html
po bastit....fockloser fraud wisslebowler found daid...he was a ornery pubic 2
http://www.huffingtonpost
.com/2011/11/30/tracy
-lawrence-whistleblower-dead_n_1120194.html?
comm_ref=tnt-drama-
cami
Tracy Lawrence, the notary public who blew the whistle on a massive foreclosure fraud scheme, was found dead in her Las Vegas home on Nov. 28, MSNBC reported.
Cause of death has not yet been determined, but Officer Jacinto Rivera, a Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department spokesman, said the case was not being investigated as homicide. She was 43.
Earlier this month, Lawrence came forward and admitted to the Nevada Attorney General's Office that she notarized 25,000 fraudulent documents for Lender Processing Services, a Florida company used by most major banks to process home repossessions. The documents were filed with the Clark County Recorder's Office between 2005 and 2008, The Los Angeles Times reported.
Lawrence also accused two loan officers of allegedly running the massive robo-signing scheme, saying they forged signatures on tens of thousands of default notices. Nevada now alleges that Gary Trafford, 49, of Irvine, Calif., and Gerri Sheppard, 62, of Santa Ana, Calif., directed their employees to forge foreclosure documents, notarize the signatures on the documents they had forged and file the fraudulent paperwork in order to begin foreclosures on homes throughout the county.
Trafford and Sheppard have been indicted on more than 600 counts of offering false instruments for recording, false certification on certain instruments and notarization of the signature of a person not in the presence of a notary public. Authorities are currently negotiating the terms of their surrender, KSNV MyNews 3 reported.
Earlier this month, Lawrence pleaded guilty to one count of notarizing the signature of a person not in her presence, The Associated Press reported. Had Lawrence shown up at her sentencing hearing on Monday, she could have faced a potential sentence of up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,000.
On Nov. 17, Lender Processing Services issued a statement acknowledging that the signing procedures on some of documents were flawed. The company also agreed to fully cooperate with the attorney general's investigation.
"I am deeply committed to ensuring that LPS meets rigorous standards of professional conduct and operating excellence," newly appointed LPS President and CEO Hugh Harris stated. "I have full confidence in the ability of our leadership team and over 8,000 dedicated employees to deliver on that commitment."
According to RealtyTrac, Nevada has had the highest foreclosure rate in the nation for 56 straight months.
she did a dum thins.
yo cant play both sides of the fence.
yo cant play crocked, and then yo rat out ppl.
she dun a good thins, but deese ppls are dangerous.
yo no dat day gonna cum back at yo.
she shud of tooked precutions afta she blow somenuns whistel.
she injoyed getting the fees fo singing all dose fony docs, now she wanna rat erverynun out?
it dont work that way. she shud of tawt of it beefo, like she tawt she saw a pussy cat.
but wah go ruond, cum around..kike they say....
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may they receive instant karma for doing this.
I'm almost certain that guy would go to jail under the cruelty to animal codes in the U.S.
I didn't watch but a few seconds of that video. It's very disturbing.
Today a suit was filed against the 5 largest banks in MA for fraud and misconduct:
http://www.mass.gov/ago/news-and-updates/press-releases/2011/five-national-banks-sued-by-ag-coakley.html
The news media isn't doing their job. What else is new? While it may appear to be all quite and peaceful out there, it is anything but.
As Alan Watts said in one of his videos, they do thing incrementally and in secret- Silent wars, silent weapons, silent torture, silent imprisonments, etc.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-medias-blackout-of-the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-shameful-2011-12
The Media's Blackout Of The National Defense Authorization Act Is Shameful
The broadcast media's ignorance and unwillingness to cover the National Defense Authorization Act, a radical piece of legislation which outrageously redefines the US homeland as a "battlefield" and makes US citizens subject to military apprehension and detainment for life without access to a trial or attorney, is unacceptable.
Raids on Organic food stores
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b27EFldZ17k&feature=player_embedded
Raid on an organic picnic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa3krStI6y4
Slave/ Master relationships
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w14Mi24enBI&feature=g-all
I agree with Michael 100%- There is so much finger pointing going that I sometimes wonder when are people going to grow up and start looking inside themselves and stop blaming the banks for all the fraud. It takes two to tango.
As Gerald Celente once said, GROW UP!
Prosecuting Wall Street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM6KkjYkpN8&feature=autoplay&list=PLB3B149056235E910&lf=g-all&playnext=1
Euro Crisis Destabilizing the Dollar by Ron Paul
"Americans deserve sound money that cannot be manipulated and created out of thin air by central planners who deceitfully promise prosperity. Fiat money caused this European crisis and the financial crisis before it. More fiat money is not the cure. The global fiat currency system has proven itself a failure. We need real monetary reform. We need sound money."
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1932:euro-crisis-destabilizing-the-dollar&catid=62:texas-straight-talk&Itemid=69
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Yes, we need sound money. Money the government cannot print is sound money. What government has not printed money? They all do it. And if they don't do it, they'll get someone else to do it.
There's no such thing as sound money, because sound money, is honest money. If it isn't honest, then it is not sound.
There is no way to make printed money sound money because sound money is not a promissory note.
Government is not a business.
Government + money = business.
The provision that Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate its value should be amended out of the Constitution simple because Government is not a business, nor are they authorized to regulate private businesses.
Constitutions are FORM constitutions. What good is a constitution if the CONTENTS of it are always ignored?
Put another way, there is no way to make printed money sound money because printed money is not money. Printed money is a promise to pay money. It is not money itself.
The only way to higher consciousness is through honesty.
Quote from Neil Kramer
"If your resistance to consciousness is high, you see a very limited set of things, very limited set of frequencies in this world. If you willingly and intelligently decrease your resistance, that is, if you conduct more consciousness, then you are in a position to see more."
The only way to limit dishonesty in government is to limit government. Not that limited government is entirely honest, but at least it is limited.
The 50 state U.S. Constitution is a fraud.
All big government is fraud. The bigger the government the greater the fraud.
Just say no to the New World Order.
California codes define ownership as the right to possess or use the property to the exclusion of others.
If you read some of the other statutes, on the same subject of ownership, they even refer to anyone with a rental agreement a homeowner.
CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE
SECTION 654-663
654. The ownership of a thing is the right of one or more persons
to possess and use it to the exclusion of others. In this Code, the thing of which there may be ownership is called property.
657. Property is either:
l. Real or immovable; or,
2. Personal or movable.
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Do you see anything in this definition (of own and owner) regarding the the right to use?
Samuel Johnson's Dictionary (1765)
To Own. To possess; to claim; to hold by right.
Owner. One to whom anything belongs; master; rightful possessor.
Accepting the Deed will only make you owner according to the legislature's definition of owner.
The language that must be used in your documents must reflect what you are actually trying to accomplish, i.e., who the rightful owner is.
Johnson's (1765)
Ownership. Property; rightful possession.
In a real action, the proximate cause is the property or ownership of the thing in controversy.
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So the key word here is RIGHTFUL.
Who is the rightful owner of the property [as opposed to who has the right to possess or use the property.]
The rightful owner is one who has a just claim.
Rightful. 1. Having the right; having the just claim. 2. Honest; just.
Justice. 1. The virtue by which we give to every man what is his due. 2. Vindicative retribution; punishment. 3 Right; assertion of right.
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The definition of legal has turned on its head. In 1765 the word legal meant lawful. What was lawful was legal. Today, the word legal means permitted by an authority (a.k.a. the legislature).
According to Johnson's the law is not an authority. The law is a rule of action as in common sense- Rules of action such as do not injure, do not steal and do not defraud anyone. Common sense stuff. Today, the word legal is what the legislature says is it is.
Johnson's 1765:
Legal. 1. Done or conceived according to law. 2. Lawful; not contrary to law.
Lawful. 1. Agreeable to law; conformable to law; allowed legal by law; legitimate. 2. Not contrary to law.
Law. A rule of action.
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From Dictionary.com:
Legal. 1. permitted by law; lawful: Such acts are not legal. 2. of or pertaining to law; connected with the law or its administration: the legal profession. 3. appointed, established, or authorized by law; deriving authority from law. 4. recognized by law rather than by equity. 5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the profession of law or of lawyers: a legal mind.
Law. 1. the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people, whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision.
Lawful. 1. allowed or permitted by law; not contrary to law: a lawful enterprise. 2. recognized or sanctioned by law; legitimate: a lawful marriage; a lawful heir.
"If you tell people it is written that way, they'll think well there's nothing we can do about it." Alan Watt
That's right. Because the law is now written, no one has to think or use common sense anymore. All thinking has already been done for you by the legislature. If you have a question regarding the law, common sense now tells you to go to the law library, not think for yourself.
They have made us helpless.
From Dictionary.com:
Legal. 1. permitted by law; lawful: Such acts are not legal.
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Legal. 1. permitted by law; lawful: Such acts are not legal.
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Such acts are not legal if they are not permitted by law.
For example the Occupy Wallstreeters. Some were arrested because they were doing things that were considered unlawful or not permitted by law- meaning that there was no law that specifically stated that they could camp in public parks.
So whatever it is that you want to do or say, if the police or other authority do not like what you are saying or doing, they could arrest you if you cannot show that it is permitted by law.
reverse it:
such acts are legal if NOT specfcally prohbted by law
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Legal now means permitted by the legislature. Breaking the law now means you did not have permission from the legislature to do it.
Here are some examples of what is now illegal:
Squatting
Squatting consists of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building, usually residential,[1] that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use.
Driving a car without a Driver License
Citizen arrest
Camping in public parks
Essentially it is anything THEY don't like. It's all about THEM, not the law, which used to be defined as a rule of action, not rule of authority.
"... The question is, why have the big governments allowed it? It is because government is just a show for the public. It has been for a awful long time. It is only a legal arm to sign into law that which the big technocrats want." Alan Watt
As you can see from definition of squatting (above), the law is now about permission from government.
Here's a quote from the book Discovery of Freedom, Rose Wilder Lane:
"American Government is unique in two ways. It is a kind of Government that is not superior to an individual, but permitted by the individual; and it is neither Government by superhuman Authority nor by living Authority, but Government by Law [common sense]."
And that is why HISTORY is so important. If you don't know HISTORY, you won't know that the American Government is NOT an Authority. They are pretending to be one, for the technocrats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2AEZosrqaw
Real human beings rare breeds. What is a human being? There are two kinds: One who is conditioned /programmed by society and the public school system, and the other is not. How many REAL human beings do you know?
Richard Syrett: "Any glimmer of hope here?
Alan Watt: The people would literally have to WANT- WANT to get back rights; they would have to WANT independence- personal independence and privacy, and they must be indignant."
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And that's the problem- most people do not KNOW what they WANT because all of their life they've have been told what they WANT, which is what the systems WANTS for them.
In order to KNOW what YOU want, it takes years, decades of UN-indoctrinating yourself. UN-indoctrinating oneself takes even longer with MIS or DIS information.
Phase # 2 of the payouts in Kurt's words:
"By playing their game better than they play it I could reverse their slander fest into a sanction. This is my goal now. Much of my commercial efforts can even expire. I can resurrect them all by tying all their evils into a collective commercial damage claim. Once I have exposed the righteous as aiding and abetting criminals the flood gates of spoil open up to us all. No statute of limitation affects us yet because the damages have yet to cease. Only then does the tolling stop."
Phase 2 payouts based upon one big commercial claim or mass joinder lawsuit based upon all injuries.
Phase # 1 of the payouts in Kurt's own words:
Phase One
Phase One is now rapidly approaching. It is very important you follow the instructions. I am not going to explain to you the mechanics of how I am accomplishing these payouts. If you don't like it you don't get paid. That is your choice. There will be two ways to work with Phase One.
1. For those of you who file tax returns or expect to in 2008
2. For those of you who do not file taxes or expect to in 2008
Point is that it's suggested that the remedy on Phase # 1 payouts is through paperwork sent to the IRS.
The IRS knows the lending fraud and is the agent for administering your remedy.
Check this out too:
https://on942.infusionsoft.com/go/fcb/mogel007/
http://www.realecontv.com/videos/central-banks/theres-nothing-wrong-with-the-debt-unless-.html
It took 3 million years to put 3 billion inhabitants on this planet, and 40 years (1960 to 2010) to put 3 billion more. Eleven years later, 1 billion was added to that. Just think, in the next 5 years, 2 billion more could be added making it 9 billion inhabitants. The economy will not survive it, not even if we reduced the population 3 billion because the FRN is not worth what it was in 1960.
We have way too many people on this planet as it for this economy. We are in deep doo-doo.
"All of human history from the first Australopithecus 3 million years ago to 1960 to put 3 billion people on the face of the planet—40 more years to put the next 3 billion people on the planet, and 11 years for the next 1 billion. We are now at 7 billion inhabitants on the planet.
When you have something limited, like you’ve got a fixed size of the planet or a fixed size of a stadium, or anything that is fixed—things go slowly at first and the speed up at the end-—So if things feel like they are going faster today, it’s because they are."
Now I know the reason they want to reduce the population- the economy will not survive 9 billion inhabitants. What do the psychopaths in power plan to do about it?
Being the psychopaths that they are, probably nothing.
I've often wondered what the State of California did with all the lottery funds taken in daily. They rake in so much money from the lottery it makes you wonder how they ever could go broke, or even are broke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XddjM_efnmk&feature=g-all-u&context=G2124318FAAAAAAAACAA
Why property is taxed is discussed in the video above starting at 1:58:53 Property is taxed because you've registered the property...
200 million thoughtless human beings? Try 7 billion... THOUGHTLESS human beings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vROuFO2FwuQ&feature=g-vrec&context=G2607a25RVAAAAAAAABg
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BAD NOOSE
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http://chasvoice.
blogspot.com/2011/12
/us-plan-to-collapse
-irans-central-bank.html
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eye rean is not libbyo
an sides dat, chin ups and rush yo is procting it with meowchool greements, an tax on one, is consider a tax on da other
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http://shortsalefundamentals.com/blog/featured/fannie-and-freddie-executives-on-trial/
Interesting stuff here:
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mogel, Isn,t that what Dorean tried to do with the Administrative Process?
And,
2. I've heard of the Apostille process before, how many ppl do you personally know or on this blog that have ever succeeded with this?
i can tell you why the UCC process dunt works.
bee corse, teh trick is, dat when yo file out da UCC form, just like da "SHOW ME DA ORGANAL P-NOTE" prcess, when yo file out da UCC form, yo dont ge to keeps da organal form, they do.
thus, why it doesnt works.
yo need to kepp the organal UCC form which they dun let yo kepp.
they gift yo a copy in ted.
then they takes yo organal UCC form and circluate thro the fed reverse sytme an fractonalaze da same way as da promisry note and makes up to 100 they $$$ on yo UCC note.
The U.C.C. was created for the Federal Reserve System-- a system of no money. You can file as many documents as you want under the U.C.C. but it isn't going to save you because the problem is not in the original paperwork (which you believe you are correcting by filing U.C.C. documents) but in the fact that there is no money.
"...but in the fact that there is no money.
there never IS/WAS any money.
it all crated out of tin air.
da proble is dat yo cannot crate $$$ out if tin air w/o da organal paperwurks.
so, i it is correct, that w/o the organal UCC paperwork, the process can never work.
yo can bleef what yo want.
if there was no mooney, then the banks could not do it eether.
fact is, there is no reel money, but just crated money.
but yo still cant crate money like da banks do w/o the organal paperworks, even UCC paperwork.
it all must be organal. the banks have no prolem cratiing money with they file a UCC coss they have da wet kink dox
it all must be organal. the banks have no prolem cratiing money with they file a UCC coss they have da wet kink dox
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Originals are always supposed to be kept by bank. The county records copies, never originals unless you want to give it to them.
Filing copies or originals of any document has nothing to do with saving yourself from an eviction- especially not under a system of no money which all laws are based.
The current system is based on legislation, which is not law.
All legislation is law ENFORCEMENT- It is prima facie law (i.e., has the appearance of law) but it is not law. It is is pure force- it is the police- it is the sheriff- it is the military- but it is not law.
"UCC is the law of God in the world of business."
Notice the police and the Vatican in the background
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUdsIfxf0Jc
"The status quo is basically set by the church- All of your law--everything goes back to the church. The church established this law through brutal force, and in the ancient of times, if you did not believe what they told you to believe, if you questioned the church, you were either put in stocks (?) beheaded, burned-- and your family was burned. And that is the program we are dealing with today-- this program of tyranny and force." James Gillian
the h was missing in the previous link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUdsIfxf0Jc
Originals are always supposed to be kept by bank. The county records copies, never originals unless you want to give it to them.
yo still dun got it do yo??
lest see if yo can splain it to me lucy this way??
go fill a UCC with the SoS of any state and see if they will give you back a copy of yo filling or the organal??
you will not get the oregano, but a carpee.
now, you can not fractonalze a copy of anythins with the BIS; ONLY ORGANALIS.
now, granted nun of dis stuff is gong to save yo house or kepp yo from slepping in the street, but dats not da point.
case close loocee???
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go fill a UCC with the SoS of any state and see if they will give you back a copy of yo filling or the organal??
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As I recall, they give you a receipt for your filing. When you file, they don't ask for the original. A copy will do. Most UCC state form do not require a wet ink signature. That's why copies will suffice.
Even if the UCC form requires a wet ink signature, they will still file a copy of it.
UCC is international agreement between businesses, not people, so a signature is rather irrelevant.
Even if the UCC form requires a wet ink signature, the secretary does not require the original for filing.
There's really is no difference between the original UCC form and a copy.
There's really is no difference between the original UCC form and a copy
thats simply not true.
you wont get your wet ink form back, only a copy
so if a copy doesnt matter,then why wont they give you the wet ink original BACK and just make a copy and file it in their archives.
BECAUSE IT DOES MATTER.
and a copy wont do to get an AR from the BIS.
so stop saying things that are not correct.
and a copy wont do to get an AR from the BIS.
thats why they can fratonlize the UCC and you cant.
thats why theres no ARs being paid yet, becuase you need to file a wet ink UCC with the BIS.
you can say all the reasons you want,
like jock nickelsohn says...
"no ticky, no laundry"
same deal.
"no rijinal UCC-1, no ARs TO BE PAID"
"you wont get your wet ink form back, only a copy"
You don't need the original back because there's no difference between the original and the copy. You can compare the original filing to your copy by viewing it online.
"so if a copy doesnt matter,then why wont they give you the wet ink original BACK and just make a copy and file it in their archives."
They don't give you the original back because you should have made and kept a copy for yourself.
Again, there is no difference between the original and a copy because in most cases the form does not require a wet ink signature.
"and a copy wont do to get an AR from the BIS."
No compute. What is an AR and a BIS?
And even if a UCC form required your signature, you would not send them the original. The SOS has no interest at all in originals because they are not in any way party to your documents.
Original documents should be kept by the party with the most interest.
ogel, Isn,t that what Dorean tried to do with the Administrative Process?
And,
2. I've heard of the Apostille process before, how many ppl do you personally know or on this blog that have ever succeeded with this?
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Yes, the processes are very similar.
I think the powers that be, did what they had to do to stop things from succeeding and paying out, because the Dorean Group was getting too large, and the amount of monies involved got to be too big, or it least would be had the Dorean Group not been molested, especially if the Dorean Group were around a few more years to carry on business. But, I don't think that this type of trickery and unfair playing and practices that the powers that be, have done, negates the validity of the process or the eventual victory that we can share in.
For example if the government unfairly extinguished all of the UCC-1 filings, as I believe they did, for no justifiable cause, then, this is another damage done to us which means more proof and more money to us.
Since the Courts have put the Dorean principals in jail, it seems reasonable to the uninformed that the process was illegal, hence, extinguishing false liens seems a justifiable thing to do to the uninformed. And if the Principals were jailed because the process was a scam and illegal, (what the courts assumed & concluded), then, it sounds reasonable to the uninformed that mail & wire fraud was used to perpetuate this scheme. Since the powers that be, made good men criminals & convicted them on false charges, whatever the government & courts have done to stop any success, seems justified to these law breakers.
Once Kurt & Scott go free, & get their convictions overeturned, all the issues that gave the Dorean Group power and credence needs to be entertained again in the light that the government have wronged not only the Principals, and unfairly rail-roaded them, but all the clients too in significant ways have been damaged too by all of this.
No, I don't know of anyone specifically on this blog that has benefitted in a large way yet, however, I did hear of one or two that completely went through the process and refinanced their homes, took money out, and then sold their homes before the title issues became a real issue by the title companies.
I have heard some bad things on the 1099 OID process where people either ended up in jail or who have gotten funds from the IRS & eventually got those funds frozen or have been sanctioned by the courts in some large way, so that process doesn't seem to be safe.
However, this process below, appears to work for those that have lost their homes either through short sales or through foreclosure. Anyone who has received a 1099 A or a 1099C can benefit from this program if they have lost a property since Jan. 1, 2008 or who have shorted their mortgages through a bank settlement since Jan. 1, 2008. You can receive up to 90% of the fair market value of your home back from the IRS. This process seems to justify the theory , and I only call a "theory" because the banks won't acknowledge the facts, that when a loan is closed, a new deposit is in fact created in the borrowers name, and we know a deposit is a bank liability, so the truth is, the lender OWES YOU, not the other way around. This is where most of the funds can come from. This process allows you to collect your deposit back in a few instances as I described earlier, you must have either received a 1099 A or 1099 C from the IRS. This seems to be a friendly process with the IRS, so no worries there either.
Can't help the people before that date of Jan. 1, 2008, sorry, so this program below won't help the Dorean clients that lost a home prior to Jan. 1, 2008, since your remedy for this program is past for the program below. Here's the link. Check it out:
https://on942.infusionsoft.com/go/fcb/mogel007/
As Larken Rose once said, "Stop treating its [government] thugs with respect as if what they do is justified and legitimate. Don't ever give them the sanction of the victim by treating them as if they have the right to rule over you."
Tell that to Alex Jones, Gerald Celente, et al-- stop talking as if government has the right to rule over you. Alex Jones waring people about SOPA or the new NDAA as if they had the right to even enact such a law.
The government doesn't have an ounce of legitimacy to do what they do. The psychology is to keep enacting more laws giving people the impression they have the right to rule, and at the same time, making history disappear.
What was the American Revolution fought for? Can anyone tell me?
BREAKING: Welcome to America Police State 2012: President Barack Obama signs controversial NDAA
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20120101&articleId=28440
Is the new NDAA law really law, Alex? Coming from you, it sure sounds like it. Just look at that face of yours.
Obama Signs Martial Law Bill: NDAA Now Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxXhn3We7U&feature=g-all-f&context=G2251952FAAAAAAAAUAA
I inadvertently left the most important sentence in Larken's quote:
As Larken Rose once said, "Stop treating its thugs with respect as if what they do is justified and legitimate. STOP SENDING THE MESSAGE THAT YOU AGREE THAT THEY ARE YOUR RIGHTFUL MASTERS. Don't ever give them the sanction of the victim by treating them as if they have the right to rule over you."
Amazing artist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWbypFzm_qg&feature=g-all-lik&context=G20c4224FAAAAAAAABAA
Mogel you may be right, but the difference with Dorean is 'being right' has nothing to do with the outcome, for them to be so naive as to take on the PTB and say I dare you was of phonomenal lack of sense. I can appreciate Dorean for exposing the mortgage fraud caused by banks, however the lack of sense in the manner they went about it was bewildering. If it were so easy as to file paperwork thru an AR, the world wouldn't be in the situation it is in the 1st place. Umm, the President was shot in the head for bringing back the silver coin and the country minting its own currency again, and Johnson reversed the order before his plane landed. Dorean actually wants to believe there earthly deitys are going to be different and save them because they are special? I hope they wake from their (go)spell they are under that they keep practicing.
The level of corruption goes exponentially beyond having your proper paperwork filed.
That's why I asked about the Apostille. A friend of mine (not thru Dorean) was also "right" and filed paperwork against the bank and the judge blew thru it instantly and ruled for the bank and he lost his house. After 7 years , he still is fighting for damages. Good luck.
Reality and "legally being right" are as far apart as 2 can be.
strat, do you know what an Apostille is?
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/apostille.html
What is an Apostille?
Additional authentication required for international acceptance of notarized documents including (but not limited to) adoption papers, affidavits, birth certificates, contracts, death certificates, deeds, diplomas and degrees, divorce decrees, incorporation papers, marriage certificates, patent applications, powers of attorney, and school transcripts. Instituted by 'The Hague Convention Abolishing The Requirements Of Legalization For Foreign Public Documents' of 1961, its objective is obviate "the requirements of diplomatic or consular legalization" and thus replace...
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For example, if you are going to another country (like the UK or Switzerland) and you want that country to recognize your document(s) as an legitimate or authentic. Some states require an Apostille + a Certificate of Authentication on certain documents like Birth Certificates. An Apostille only certifies the Notary is a Officer of the State in good standing- and nothing else. It doesn't certify the document as authentic. Only certain documents can be given the Certificate of Authenticity. Each states has different rules for this.
But that's all an Apostille is -
From the Secretary of State:
Apostilles and certifications only certify to the authenticity of the signature of the official who signed the document, the capacity in which that official acted, and when appropriate, the identity of the seal or stamp which the document bears. The apostille or certification does not validate the contents of the document.
The California Secretary of State authenticates signatures only on documents issued in the State of California signed by a notary public or the following public officials and their deputies:
County Clerks or Recorders
Court Administrators of the Superior Court
Executive Clerks of the Superior Court Officers whose authority is not limited to any particular county
Executive Officers of the Superior Court
Judges of the Superior Court
State Officials
"The level of corruption goes exponentially beyond having your proper paperwork filed."
I concur.
There is more to it than having the proper paperwork.
OMO, yes I do.
In addition to what you copy pasted, an Apostille is one of if not the highest final paperwork in an Administrative Remedy that can be used for collection of damages recognized internationally because of International Treaties.
Do let me clarify,
It CAN be used as a legal document for redemption of damages internationally including Hauge.
NOT to imply that is its only purpose, moreso the gravity of the document has been verified.
"It CAN be used as a legal document for redemption of damages internationally including Hauge."
WHY WOULD YOU GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY TO COLLECT DAMAGES?
Here's what the Secretary of State says what an Apostille is for:
The California Secretary of State provides authentication of public official signatures on documents to be used outside the United States of America. The country of destination determines whether the authentication is an Apostille or Certification.
"NOT to imply that is its only purpose, moreso the gravity of the document has been verified.
The only thing an Apostille does is verified the Notary's signature. Another Notary from the SOS verifies the notary signature that is on your document. That's all it is good for. An Apostille can also verify the signatures of :
County Clerks or Recorders
Court Administrators of the Superior Court
Executive Clerks of the Superior Court Officers whose authority is not limited to any particular county
Executive Officers of the Superior Court
Judges of the Superior Court
State Officials (notaries)
AND... The document that is attached to the Apostille is good in only ONE country- the country of your choosing (if you plan to travel to that country).
I have a notarized document with an Apostille attached that is good for use in the United Kingdom of Great Britain ONLY. It is no good in any other country. Of course it is good in the United States- but it's only a verification that the notary is in good standing.
let me sum up ALL oy your words :
an Apostilled document signed by the correct govt officials, (NOT just your notary of a county that you reside in) CAN be used Internationally by LAW of international Treaty.
If you think a legal document, ie: financial instrument is only good in one country, you are mistaken.
You will need to continue your Google searches for experience.
A financial instrument can then be negotiated internationally as it holds face value.
Again, if done correctly.
ie: You can get a document notarized by the United States, NOT just a notary of your county.
If you don't believe that, you can google search for the Californai man that won against the US's imminent domain land grab (steal) with a Apostilled document by land patent that is still recognized by International Law.
That is all I will share on the subject.
Believe what thou will.
If you think a legal document, ie: financial instrument is only good in one country, you are mistaken.
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An Apostille can be used in more than one country but you will have to have a separate Apostille for EACH country. It is not a one-size-fits-all document.
Different Counties or at least different States for sure, I am told, have different wording for their apostille's that they prefer to be used as an attachment to documents, which in essence the apostille is just a certificate of authority verifying the notary or person affixing their name to the document is of good legal standing to act in their appointed governmental office. In light of that, it wouldn't surprise me that different countries might have different requirements for their apostille's so the "one size does not fit all countries", does make sense.
Apostille = certificate of authority and of good standing, verified and certified.
I guess it cuts down on potential fraudulent paperwork by requiring an apostille.
There is more to it than having the proper paperwork.
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I agree. You need a fair playing field with Judges doing their job correctly to defend your administrative claim.
So who do you turn to when justice denies you?
International Courts? Selling the administrative judgments oversees?
Who's the highest authority? Well it's God, is it not? So how does believing and accepting God's promises equal a "God's spell" or something that doesn't help or inspire you to victory?
So if authorities keep denying you justice, you just go up the ladder until you get what you are seeking for.
Faith is based upon promises and results unseen. I see having a lack of faith in Diety as a "spell" of impotency.
Faith at it's highest level is perfect knowledge, where you just KNOW. At that point, you are not living in faith anymore, but in perfect harmony with truth. You can't get there without faith and faith in God, who knows all and is all powerful.
Is it improper to appeal to God and constantly have faith in his promises? I don't equate that to a spell if it's genuine and if you are on the right path.
A "spell" denotes that you are acting against your own free will desires, and that you are bewildered by your total impotentcy of getting out of a bad situation. Does that describe Kurt & Scott? I don't think so.
If anything the banksters and corrupt politicians and corrupt judges, are under the "spell" that they are untouchable.
Come to think of it, "spells" are related to what witches and those of the occult perform, and they do it with Satanic purposes.
I think it was quite funny when Kurt called the corrupt court system, a bunch of "witchcraft".
I think to use the term "spell" towards faith in God, is morally reprehensible and just wrong on many levels.
If we had a government based upon Godly principles, we would have a theocracy, with God at the top of the pyramid, which is the most perfect form of government there is & we could do away with all this witchcraft.
A "spell" denotes that you are acting against your own free will desires, and that you are bewildered by your total impotentcy of getting out of a bad situation. Does that describe Kurt & Scott? I don't think so.
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Actually, it does describe Kurt and Scott- they just don't know it. The best defense they could have used was "I don't understand" because in reality, nobody can understand their United States Codes because, in fact and in Truth, it is not written in English.
The best video on youtube on the subject of legalese:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5SRKTK1KP4
Here's a hopeful video- at least for the UK people :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tPuqcn55w
Faith at it's highest level is perfect knowledge, where you just KNOW.
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The highest level of perfect knowledge is where you KNOW, but at that level you do not know what you know; you simply know; it is impossible to say what you know.
So if, for any reason the government found your actions to be in violation of their codes, whatsoever punishment they give you, you would take it, without any questioning. At that level you also have no rights. Complete innocence. Like a new born babe.
At that level, it would be impossible for you to say that you know anything at all. All you can say I DON'T KNOW, because that's all you KNOW. It's a Stateless state of complete innocence..
The best defense they could have used was "I don't understand" because in reality, nobody can understand their United States Codes
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They did use that "defense"! Where in hell have you been.... practicing "witchcraft" too, the art of weaving a lie?
The Dorean Group pled that & didn't understand how the mail fraud statute could be used to convict in any scenario the U.S. attorneys wanted to interpret it in their BROAD & UNFAIR interpretation, connecting even the clients to their alleged wire & mail fraud, when the mail fraud statutes was specifically to have a narrow scope & originally was intended by law makers to only specifically protect the banks against bank fraud. Where's the bank fraud by the Dorean Group???
Oh that's right, THOSE CHARGES WERE ALL DROPPED BEFORE THE TRIAL, because the prosecutors knew that was a flimsy charge, yet you want to continually diss them as if they are some ignorant sons of bitches.
What kind of witchcraft B.S. is this:
"The highest level of perfect knowledge is where you KNOW, but at that level you do not know what you know;"
You either know something, or you don't. You're playing word games.
True Christians believe that through the power of the Holy Ghost you may know the truth of all things some day, line upon line, precept upon precept. You obviously aren't Christian & you obviously don't believe in the 3rd member of the Godhead, called the Holy Ghost because that's his job to enable people to come to the knowledge of the truth, all truths. As long as Jesus lived in the world, the Holy Ghost did not need to come, because Jesus was the "light of the world" as long as he was here, the Holy Ghost was not really needed, to lead people to truth. With Jesus dying & leaving the earth & gone from the earth, he promised the "Comforter" would come, which was the Holy Ghost which would lead all contrite men & women to Him. On the Day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was there to inspire many in the crowd to even speak in foreign languages that they didn't previously know and those that were there who didn't even understand a foreign language with no experience were even able to understand what was spoken in foreign tongues.
Omo, You come from a humanist perspective where there are no absolutes, everything is confusing, and relative, you can't know anything, not even the US codes, therefore, morality is meaningless to you, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING OR UNDERSTAND ANYTHING, from your perspective, since you can't determine that there is a right or a wrong to anything, or understand anything with meaning, except ironically, you are totally convinced that Kurt & Scott were brainwashed and are under some "spell" from the beginning & even now.
The Supreme Court comes out & rules that there must be one of two elements in a mail fraud conviction, either "bribes" or "kickbacks", which supports the Dorean Group's innocence, yet you want to continue to diss them as they don't understand what they know. Who in hell are you? I'm sorry, I answered my own question, silly me.
You said: So if, for any reason the government found your actions to be in violation of their codes, whatsoever punishment they give you, you would take it, without any questioning.
That surely doesn't describe me and it surely doesn't describe Kurt & Scott and hopefully most people on this blog wouldn't take the kind of crap you are suggesting either.
I question half of the things you say, and I surely don't take it. You are a very judgmental person. Judging shouldn't be your line of work, since you are very bad at it.
"I don't understand" because in reality, nobody can understand their United States Codes because, in fact and in Truth, it is not written in English.
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If no one can understand anything, how can a sentence of guilt or innocence be given? The petite Jury found the Dorean Group guilty OF VIOLATING THE MAIL FRAUD STATUTES, but since in your words, the Petite Jury could not even know what they were deciding upon because even they couldn't understand the statutes, then what you are really saying is that the verdicts ARE BASED UPON NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE & NOTHING OF ANYTHING THAT COULD BE UNDERSTOOD IN A COHERENT MANNER, meaning that even the petite jury's verdict needs to be overturned because you admit they are sadly mislead in ignorance due to understanding nothing about the law. Yet even though your words give them vindication, ironically you are continually dissing them like saying they are under a "spell". Why don't you just say what you feel, that they are just dumb jackasses and stop being so subtle and stop being such a psydo intellectual?
Isn't that extremely hypocritical on your part? Where's your sense of fair play & justice? If they are innocent born babes, where's your sympathy & mercy? You obviously have none. You can't be critical & merciful towards them at the same time BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT EITHER. If they are innocent born babes, they deserve the most respect & utmost love and even tenderness that adults given to new born babes.
If a statute is that vague, IT IS NOT ENFORCEABLE, due to it's vagueness. The Supreme Courts have already ruled on that doctrine too. If it is not enforceable, there can be no penalty affixed either AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT OR ACCEPT IT.
Again, you just reinforce that Kurt & Scott do know what they know & do understand what they understand.
All the "elements" must fit in a statute and in a conviction, and in the case of the Dorean Group, the elements all don't fit at all.
Something is rotten in Denmark & I'm not taking it anymore.
"If they are innocent born babes, they deserve the most respect & utmost love and even tenderness that adults given to new born babes."
Wallow in all your ignorance Mogel007. I'm finished entertaining you and everyone here. No more entertainment from me. Bye idiots.
They did use that "defense"! Where in hell have you been.... practicing "witchcraft" too, the art of weaving a lie?
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Uh, no they did not use that defense. They were their own attorneys, remember? They represented themselves- that's hardly a position of "I don't understand." In fact, it's the complete opposite.
So stop defending them Mogel007. They didn't understand a g-damn what was happening to them. They pretended to know. They played right into the devil's hands.
That's all I have say.
Bye, ignoramus
"Dorean actually wants to believe there earthly deitys are going to be different and save them
da problim is dis?
ho's kin dum is dis??
it stans of corse.
so yo cant prophit by using godly prinples on this earth.
noone bleef dis,but they will fine out.
stan rules on dis earth. only thins stan cant do is steel yo sole.
but if yo want to make $$$, yo nedd to do thins dat stan would do.
bleef what yo want.
our fine militry.
US TROOPS BLOW UP PUPPY
http://video.godlikeproductions
.com/video/US_TROOPS_TH
RILL_KILLING_IN_IRAQ_2012?id=787b804fb158d07869a
sick batards...karma awaits them as well.
they removed sadlam for this?
They were their own attorneys, remember?
So stop defending them Mogel007.
STOP CRITICIZING THEM IN YOUR IGNORANCE THEN. DO YOU REALLY THINK HAVING AN ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE CREATED A DIFFERENT RESULT?
They didn't understand a g-damn what was happening to them.
THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU AREN'T READING THE SAME POSTS ON THIS BLOG OR READING THE SAME COURT TRANSCRIPTS I'M READING. THEY KNEW THAT FACTS DIDN'T MATTER TO THE CORRUPT COURT, BUT THEY KNEW THESE FACTS HAD TO BE PRESENTED FOR A PAPER TRAIL. THEY KNEW ALOT OF THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING TO THEM & WHY & WHO WAS BEHIND ALL OF THIS & WHAT THE OBJECTIVES WERE. THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT BY DOING WHAT THEY DID, THEY STEPPED ON THE TOES OF THOSE REALLY IN CONTROL AND THE "HIGHER UP AUTHORITIES" TOLD JUDGE ALSUP TO TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM CALLED THE DOREAN GROUP & GET THE BALL ROLLING IN ORDER TO GET THEM OFF THE STREETS AND OUT OF THE BUSINESS WORLD & ESTABLISHED THE PRECEDENCE OR IDEA THAT THE DOREAN GROUP IS A SCAM & RULED AGAINST ALL THE CIVIL LAWSUITS THAT WERE FILED, SO ANYONE IN FORECLOSURE COULD NOT HAVE A GOOD DEFENSE.
THEY ARE MARTYRS, WHISTLEBLOWERS, ADVOCATES FOR THE LITTLE GUY, AND YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE THEM.
OH, AND NOW YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ONE THING? AND YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE FAIR? STOP MAKING UNIVERSAL STATEMENTS THAT MAKE NO SENSE! WALLOW IN MY IGNORANCE? YOU'RE FINISHED ENTERTAINING ME? YOU'RE NOT THE TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT I SEEK, BELIEVE ME. YOU'RE SAYING GOOD BYE? DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS WHEN YOU GO AND NEVER COME BACK. SADLY ENOUGH, I DO BELIEVE YOU WILL COME BACK THOUGH SINCE MOST ANYTHING YOU SAY HAS NO MERIT LIKE THAT YOU ARE THROUGH AND YOU ARE LEAVING.
You also said: "They pretended to know."
OH, SO NOW THEY ARE PRETENDERS OR LIARS AND CON-MEN TOO? YOU KNOW I CAN SEE WHY ALL RELIGIOUS THINGS KURT TALKS ABOUT IS OFFENSIVE TO YOU AND YOUR ILK BECAUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU BELIEVE THEY ARE LIARS, SO YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY IS B.S. FROM A PRETENDING POINT OF VIEW.
They played right into the devil's hands.
SO NOW, THEY WANTED TO GO TO JAIL AND WANTED TO BE CONVICTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND THAT WAS THEIR PLAN TO LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES OR HAVE THEM LEAVE THEM & SUFFER?
DON'T YOU THINK WHEN THE DOREAN GROUP STARTED DISCHARGING MORTGAGES ON THE PUBLIC RECORD AS A PART OF THE DOREAN PROCESS THAT THEY KNEW THIS MIGHT BE LIKE PLAYING WITH A HORNETS NEST EVEN BEFORE THEY STARTED THE COMPANY OR DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THIS SPECIFIC THOUGHT NEVER CROSSED THEIR MINDS AND THAT THEY WERE TOTALLY CLUELESS? TO LISTEN TO YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE EVERYONE BELIEVE & CONCLUDE THAT SUCH THINKING WAS NEVER A THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THEM, "SINCE YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ONE G'DAMN THING."
That's all I have to say.
DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID YOUR ASSUMPTIONS AND CONCLUSIONS SOUND? AND I'M SURE THAT'S NOT ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY EITHER ON THIS SUBJECT OR ANY OTHER BECAUSE WEAVING LIES IS YOUR SPECIALTY.
"Dorean actually wants to believe there earthly deitys are going to be different and save them
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Earthly Deity? Is there such a thing? I thought Deity was synonymous with God signifying real power. Didn't you say the earth is owned & run by Satan and that the only way to make real & substantial money is to sucuumb to Satan's rules, hence all rich people are evil?
Wouldn't that make Satan the earthly diety you are referring to that you said the Dorean Group believed would end up saving them?
Are you being subtle or what or just naturally confusing as usual?
It's ironic that OMO says that the Dorean Group doesn't understand one thing and that statement was contained & logged in the current post by Kurt below. Maybe OMO needs to read it 10 times over to see that they understand many things and much better than one might think for someone being convicted and fighting in court without any attorney's help to fully represent them at all times, and by the way, I see no mention of an "earthly deity" in this post below either. I read "God" will deliver and the g is capitalized:
"By all indications my exit is approaching me quickly. The bond case ruled on June 16, 2011 out of the Supreme Court completely changed the game. With record speed new developments are passing through the courts so quickly are the changes coming that I can honestly say the 12-18 months I’m seeing as a possibility for my release could be substantially shortened.
A man at my prison put in a bond brief on his appeal and was calendared for oral arguments in 48 hours. This normally takes 6-15 months, other examples are coming daily. A man out of New York filed a Bond brief on June 29 and by July 12th his indictment was dismissed. He had already been convicted.
Under Bond our conviction are deemed unconstitutional which can also be translated as illegal for all those so proud of your government in this case. The particulars your can discover from my briefs filed in the criminal case out of the Northern District of California 05-CR-00611WJA.
Our conviction and our wasted (stolen) appeal was nothing but bully pirates functioning as political hacks to protect the fraudsters from your legitimate complaint. They threw us as patsies to you with a propaganda placebo to get you to hate your friends while they broke the law and robbed you. Well soon our mighty God will deliver us and then it is my prayer by this same power He will equip us to bring His deliverance to you. That is the true Bond that made the difference."
OMO says: "Bye idiots!"
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Notice the arrogance here! The word "idiots" is in plural form, meaning the word, "idiots" doesn't refer only just to me, but refers to all that read this blog.
How's that for long suffering and mercy? How's that to infer that only through OMO you can be saved from your ignorance, but yet he/she is now leaving? Maybe he's the earthly diety SOP was referring to?
I'm sure OMO wouldn't last one day in jail before he or she pissed themself.
THE HEALIING POWER OF RAW CANNABIS
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?feature=player_
embedded&v=z0VUsak2o9E#!
Kurt said: "Our conviction and our wasted (stolen) appeal was nothing but bully pirates functioning as political hacks to protect the fraudsters from your legitimate complaint."
Stolen appeal? That sounds familiar:
9:45 pm January 5, 2012
Ron Branson wrote :
The suggestion to abolish the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is intriguing. In support to such a goal I offer the following documentation. Back on Nov. 24, of 2009 a false and fraudulent Minute Order was created in the Los Angeles County Court System that stated that I was present and faced criminal charges at which I entered a plea. As a result of such alleged charges I was thrown in the Los Angeles County Men’s Central jail. When I got out, I appealed the so-called decision, which lead me to contact the Official Court Reporter and request a transcript of the “arraignment.” I knew that I was not present or knew anything about this criminal procedure. What I did not know was what the court reporter informed me, and that was that there existed no such arraignment, and therefore no transcript of that proceeding was possible to obtain.
I brought this fact to the attention of the panel of the Los Angeles County Appellate Department who was considering on appeal whether to affirm the conviction and imprisonment. They refused to accept my challenge for them to contact the court reporter listed within the Minute Order and find out the truth for themselves. But they were not interested in the truth! They affirmed the fraudulent conviction. I requested of the court reporter to affirm by declaration the absence of an arraignment and criminal charges, and that no transcript thereof was possible.
I brought suit using the declaration of Official Court Reporter the Los Angeles County and named all the perpetrators engaged in this fraud, including the judges of the appellate court in Los Angeles. In the federal district court four federal judges chose to recuse themselves from ruling on this fraud. The case was passed on to the fifth federal judge who merely threw out the case without mentioning the fraudulent conviction, or mention of the court reporter affirming the facts of no charges.
Three days after dismissing the case, I appealed to the Ninth Circuit and paid the $455 filing fee. Five days later I was sent an notice of Intent to dismiss the appeal, followed by a dismissal of my appeal.
I then requested an en banc determination of the entire Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal Dec. 30, 2011. I have pointed out to them that the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 3, does not permit the dismissal of Notices of Appeals which are taken as a matter of right as provided by Congress.
We refer to the courts as avenues of redress in the pursuit to justice. But what the Ninth Circuit has done in clearly abrogate their statutory duty to hear appeals from the federal district courts. If the Ninth Circuit refuses to perform its duties as a appellate court, they serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever. Therefore, I find the suggestion of abolishing the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals quite appealing to the objective of justice! I recommend we all use or search engines and search out the judicial accountability initiative law to hold all these judges accountable!
Ron Branson
For those that want to read the appeal:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2011cv01960/239761/
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/
candce/3:2011cv01960/239761/
I have pointed out to them that the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 3, does not permit the dismissal of Notices of Appeals which are taken as a MATTER OF RIGHT as provided by Congress.
Santorium on the 10th amendment:
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/01/04/santorum-soundbites-on-the-judiciary-10th-amendment/
ROGUE COURTS? Kurt isn't the only influential person saying this. LOL
Santorum said his plan for the Ninth Circuit — the “poster child for rogue courts,” he called it — was to break the court into two or three separate courts and replace all the judges. More recently, Santorum said it might be possible to “shrink” the Ninth Circuit and “put all the Ninth Circuit judges in California and maybe Hawaii for good measure.”
If you are able to subpoena the necessary records, you can prove your banks fraud and prove "your deposit". Remember Enron the big company that failed? They did the same thing to cover up their fraud by having two sets of books.
To try to hide their deception the banks do an off balance sheet entry, which means they have taken the money from your promissory note after they sold it, instead of showing it on their balance sheet, they move it over into another balance sheet. It is no longer on the bank’s books. This is called off balance sheet bookkeeping. They are keeping the records in two different sets of books just like the Mafia. This is considered money laundering and a violation of RICO. They are not showing the liability side of the ledger or the accounts payable because it has been moved over to someone else’s balance sheet.
52. By law the banks are required to file a FR 2046. This FR 2046 balance sheet as it relates to the original “loan” shows the Banks’ ledgering of the account, and will show the off balance sheet entry and extinguishment of the “loan”. This FR 2046 bank transaction balance sheet will show that there is no balance, and no principle due on the Defendant’s account. Under 12 USC 248 and 347 it is mandatory that the bank file these balance sheets with the Federal Reserve Board, on a quarterly or weekly basis. The balance sheet shows the assets and liabilities that they use in the accounting. The liabilities would be your promissory note. It is a liability to the bank because it is a cash asset that they owe to you. The balance sheet, FR 2046, 2049, and 2099, have OMB numbers on them that are subject to disclosure under the privacy act, Title 5 USC 552(b)(4). They have to give it to you if you ask for it.
53. Also the Defendant has requested in Discovery a copy of the S3 registration statement. This will show when and where the instrument was sold, FIA CARD SERVICES, N.A cannot falsely try to claim that they “lost” the promissory note, when it clearly shows on their S3 registration statement that they sold the promissory note to the Federal Reserve. And the 1099 OID will identify who the principal is from, which capital and interest was taken, and who the recipient or payer of the funds are, and who is holding the account in escrow, un-adjusted. FAS 125, 133, 140, 5, 95. These will direct the auditor to the liability side of the banks' books and also create the trail of exactly where the money came from and where it went.
54. Any time a National Bank like FIA CARD SERVICES shifts assets off their books, they have to report it to the Federal Reserve Board exactly where the money went, so they can follow it. It is mandated that the banks give a cash receipt on any deposit. Your transaction account is a demand deposit account, which means you should be able to go and demand your money back at any time. They are required to show it on their books, but they are breaking the law by not doing so. They are doing an OFFSET ENTRY. This is why you need to get the names addresses and phone numbers of the original, CPA, Custodian of Records, and auditor, so that they can be subpoenaed to appear in court. Without Discovery you will never uncover the truth. There are only a hand full of people that have first hand knowledge about what really happened to the money in your account. The Auditors are the only ones who keep track of where the assets go. These are special auditors. The Defendant has asked for all this information in discovery under civil rule 36. If FIA CARD SERVICES does not fully and truthfully answer all these questions, and supply the information and documents required, they have admitted their guilt, by refusing to answer or deny anything, or by their partial or non-response.
Santorium on the 10th amendment:
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/01/04/santorum-soundbites-on-the-judiciary-10th-amendment/
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ho cum they have the 10th amendint in a snatorium??
isnt a sanitorium a place where they keep the birds?
the cuckoo birds, that is?
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