Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

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OMO said...

If you haven't already seen this, have a listen:

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/government-corruption/obamacare-its-a-tax-its-a-fraud.html

Joseph said...

No I'm not saying that. Obamacare is NOT FREE- it is BIG BUSINESS
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Well the taxed Americans FROM obamacare CREATES the income to the government, but the SHORTFALL, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A SHORTFALL BECAUSE THE POST OFFICE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A PROFIT, then where does the short fall come from?

You guessed it, FROM MORE BORROWED MONEY BY THE GOVERNMENT, HENCE A BIGGER FEDERAL DEBT.

Joseph said...

Organized religion is the problem, not individual belief.
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Corrupted religion is the problem.
Organized is good. What's the alternative?

Disorganized? Anarchy?

Individual belief is a problem too since no one person can find out God and his mysteries without divine revelation and his mercy.

Joseph said...

Here's a link to an audio that is very interesting:

http://www.setoffdebt.com/download/interviews/EFT-Call-June-28-2012.mp3

The audio link talks about Title 18 USC in which Kurt was charged & convicted under here:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-63

The problem with all of that is that Title 18 charges CAN'T BE BROUGHT AGAINST THE PEOPLE.

The original intent of Title 18 was FOR THE PEOPLE to bring criminal charges against the government, and employees that work for the government.

The courts have convicted Kurt & Scott "under color of law" and have used the intent of the Code wrongfully.

This is a legal angle that Kurt should look into to expunge his convictions and overturn all of the nonsense to date.

Joseph said...

I also believe that Judge Alsup is not even a Judge as I believe he is an "imposter" since he doesn't have on file a legitimate "oath of office".

That is another angle that would help Kurt & Scott go free.

We all need them out of prison, so they can work on all the clients remedies.

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persistancepays said...

We all need them out of prison, so they can work on all the clients remedies.



dun woory, jus hang on tit. remdys will be hear by 2025.

past it to yo gandchilluns gandchilluns...

OMO said...

"The original intent of Title 18 was FOR THE PEOPLE to bring criminal charges against the government, and employees that work for the government."
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No, that couldn't be right. In all criminal cases, whether federal or state, all people, whether they work in the public or private sector, are entitled to a trial by jury. They never get one because the government (federal and state) fail to provide a proper statement of VENUE (PLACE where the crime occurred and where the trial is to take place) in the criminal complaint or indictment.

I've just looked at two sample indictments written by the government for PETER HENDRICKSON AND MARK LOBELLO. Neither indictment has a proper statement of venue.

I just looked at two indictments written by the government. Neither one has a proper statement of VENUE:

Example 1:

"On or about 8/25/03 in the Eastern District of Michigan, Defendant PETER HENDRICKSON, a resident of Commerce Township, did willfully make and subscribe an Individual Income Tax Return, form 1040 for the calendar year 2002..."

Example 2:

"During the calendar 1998, MARK A. LOBELLO, a resident of Las Vegas, made and received taxable income of approximately $92, 280...."


If there is no statement of VENUE (i.e., PLACE and approx TIME where the crime took place, and the county where the trial is to take place), then there is no trial by jury-- only a jury trial (i.e. trial by judge where the judge instructs the jury how they should decide the case).


Title 18 (and all state penal codes are NULL and VOID) without a proper statement of venue NAMING THE DEFENDANT to have committed a crime, at specific PLACE and TIME, so that they can determine the proper county where the trial is to take place.

OMO said...

Even in civil cases, if there is going to be a trial, they must have a statement of venue, (PLACE where the trial is to take place) and NAMING all DEFENDANTS. In most civil complaints they either leave out the statement or they name only the CITY or COUNTY as entities entitled to trial- they NEVER name real people's names.

Joseph said...

Neither indictment has a proper statement of venue.
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Cause for dismissal of the case or dismissal of the jurisdiction that assumes control.


It's the little things that are actually BIG ISSUES.

Joseph said...

No, that couldn't be right. In all criminal cases, whether federal or state, all people, whether they work in the public or private sector, are entitled to a trial by jury.
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In the State Court (criminal court) where I was charged with driving without a license, the Judge said & put on the record, "that the Uniform Commercial Code did not apply to the court," and that the Court was not a "merchant" & that Title 3, 3603 only applied to Merchants and couldn't be attributed to the courts responsibility to obey. The Clerk of Court, according to the Judge, can receive a check, AND SEND IT BACK DENIED, AND THIS ISN'T CONSIDERED A REFUSAL OR DISCHARGE OF THE FINE. This is tantamount to the Judge or Court being ABOVE THE LAW. Then the Judge made a clear distinction that the Clerk of Court's actions are not binding on the Court, as the Judge made that distinction too. So the Judge also violated "agency law" too. Maybe I should have paid the fine "directly to the Judge" then & had him refuse it since the policy is that the Clerk doesn't accept checks. They don't want them to bounce maybe, and want certified funds, I would assume, although there is no real legal definition of certified funds either. But then the State prosecuting attorney after I said the debt was discharged due to refusal, came up to me and violated their own policy, SAYING THAT THEY WOULD ACCEPT ANOTHER CHECK FROM ME FOR THE FINE after it was sent back. They are all HYPOCRITES, LIARS, AND CON-ARTISTS.

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Joseph said...

RULES AND POLICIES MEAN NOTHING TO THEM. THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY. IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING YOU PROSECUTED AND STEALING FROM YOU under "color of law". THE LAWS & RULES DON'T MATTER AND THERE IS NEVER A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. MY OWN EXPERIENCE PROVED THIS.

So the Courts can sell all of those "indictments" like Wall Street sells mortgage "paper", and make it a business, and still not be termed a "merchant" according to the UCC if you believe the Judge.

The traffic court can make the charge "driving a motor vehicle" without a license, which probably should be a "Federal Court" issue, since the definition of a "motor vehicle" is defined in the Federal Statutes and "driving" involves all 50 States. I could argue that I was even in the "wrong jurisdiction" in light of what the Judge said. `

When I tried to define what a "motor vehicle" is, SINCE THAT WAS AT THE HEART OF THE ALLEGED CRIME, I was forbidden to bring up the United States Code as a reference for definition. Is THIS NOT "ABUSE OF LEGAL PROCESS"? The Court is not interested in the truth or in definitions at all or "real intent" of the law or definitions when they fight the facts on purpose & purposely keep the truth out of the court record. They are not even interested in proper "jurisdiction" either, although they should be.

If you are entitled to a "trial by jury" why do the courts not automatically give this in foreclosure cases and in traffic cases? THEY NEVER DO AND THAT'S DONE ON PURPOSE TOO. The Judges routinely and knowingly violate the "intent" of the law and lie in court & routinely prosecute "under color of law." When the Judge went over my defenses, he discussed all of them, except his "APPARENT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST" in this case, he purposely did not go there, nor did he want to discuss it on the record, and then said,"i SEE NO MERIT IN ANY OF YOUR DEFENSES" RIGHT AFTER HE SAID THAT THERE WAS SOME REAL ISSUES. He contradicted himself many times, and showed himself to be a total hypocrite. One minute he was complimenting my legal work, and WISHED MORE PEOPLE WOULD TAKE INTEREST IN THE LAW LIKE ME & then another minute he was putting me down saying, "there is no legal merit whatsoever here."
Even a person with no legal background could see the apparent hypocrisy and flip flop.

So the Judge lied again, and purposely evaded the most important issue, that he can't be an impartial Judge because he has a financial incentive to find me guilty since a portion of the fines goes to his retirement account. And we know know that Judges have a financial incentive for you to lose your house too because the Judge's retirement fund in all 50 States are heavily invested in mortgage backed securities. The banks can't be hurt, otherwise the value of the courts investments are also hurt. This was all DONE ON PURPOSE to compromise the courts integrity.

Alot of things "that don't sound right" may be right and true after all.

Don't fight an idea because it doesn't sound right.

Joseph said...

The Tax Court is an "administrative court", IT ISN'T EVEN A REAL COURT.

Papers from an "administrative court" is just an invitation.

You don't even have to attend. The Tax court is rigged. You don't stand a chance.

persistancepays said...

dats y all yo 'relgius peepels' are fonies.


regrading obooma care fo free fo po fokes.


why shunt po fokes haft hell care?

even if they dun works fo it?

what would god haf to say bout it?


ya, da little kid haft a tootake, so he shud stay in pane coss his partents are just po fokes w/o insercance.

dum christains.

Joseph said...

No, that couldn't be right. In all criminal cases, whether federal or state, all people, whether they work in the public or private sector, are entitled to a trial by jury.
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WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Are PEOPLE, corporations? Are corporations, PEOPLE?

I don't think so.

Corporations don't have the rights that the PEOPLE do, such as a right to a "trial by jury".

When a "person" behaves badly in their corporate stead, they are not considered one of the PEOPLE.

There's a fine line between the PEOPLE and the CORPORATIONS/GOVERNMENT that are suppose to be the servants OF THE PEOPLE. They serve us, not the other way around. They don't have the same God given rights that the PEOPLE do.

You can't wear two hats at the same time. If you are working in the government, YOU CAN'T BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.

I think that's where your confusion comes in.

There's the "above the line" and "below the line".

All the corporations and government are BELOW THE LINE.

We the PEOPLE, are above the line.

Joseph said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9g8n8A_iVQ&feature=relmfu

Joseph said...

"If you've killed one person to give them freedom, you've DONE IT WRONG."

OMO said...

No, I'm not confused. If a government employee goes on trial for breach of his oath of office, then what is wrong with putting him/her on trial with a trial by jury?

Joseph said...

In most civil complaints they either leave out the statement or they name only the CITY or COUNTY as entities entitled to trial- they NEVER name real people's names.

OMO said...

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

OMO said...

Civil and criminal courts are administrative courts. The reason for trials in these courts is to give people the impression of justice. In both of these courts trials are held by judges, not by the people.

The only place where the people can get justice is in a common law court with a trial by jury (vs. trial by judge). There is no difference in either of these courts because trials are held by judges under the guise of what they call a jury trial.

If you get justice in an administrative court, consider yourself LUCKY.

OMO said...

Crazy foreigners:



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/07/jordanian-mp-gun_n_1656078.html

persistancepays said...

bank changes coks on home, but they dint have moongag on his hows anyayss.





http://foreclosurenation.org/jp-morgan-chase/chase-lps-change-locks-on-mans-home-man-didnt-have-mortgage-with-chase/

Joseph said...

Time to have a new posting. It's been almost 2 months since Kurt's last post. Certainly there's new thoughts since then.

Joseph said...

Iceland knows how to deal with corrupt banks and corrupt bankers. They have set the standard we need to follow.

http://itmakessenseblog.com/2012/06/18/global-elites-thrown-out-of-iceland-iceland-dismantles-corrupt-govt-then-arrests-all-rothschild-bankers/

Joseph said...

Last week 9 people were arrested in London and Reykjavik for their possible responsibility for Iceland’s financial collapse in 2008, a deep crisis which developed into an unprecedented public reaction that is changing the country’s direction.

Bankers are fleeing in fear.

Joseph said...

Kurt & Scott were correct, as is attested by what has happened in Iceland:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread853204/pg1

Iceland receives "debt forgiveness" as there is no need to pay a debt that was obtained by bankers fraud. This is basically a repudiation of Iceland's debt.

Joseph said...

Wells Fargo agrees to 175 million penalty for loan discrimination:

http://shortsalefundamentals.com/blog/featured/wells-fargo-guilty-of-discrimination/

Joseph said...

175 million is just a drop in the bucket, just a cost of doing fraud, I mean a cost of doing business.

Joseph said...

Actually the "New American Standard Bible" has the best translation here:
Will not your creditors rise up suddenly, And those who collect from you, AWAKEN? Indeed, you will become plunder for them.

What is happening in the last few years? We are learning that the banking system is fraud, deep to the core.

Lord Acton said the eventual battle that would be fought would be the "People vs. the Banks"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UEJlkQzS8


<< Habakkuk 2:7 >;>

New International Version (©1984)
Will not your debtors suddenly arise? Will they not wake up and make you tremble? Then you will become their victim.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Suddenly, your debtors will take action. They will turn on you and take all you have, while you stand trembling and helpless.
English Standard Version (©2001)
Will not your debtors suddenly arise, and those awake who will make you tremble? Then you will be spoil for them.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Will not your creditors rise up suddenly, And those who collect from you awaken? Indeed, you will become plunder for them.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Won't your creditors suddenly rise up and those who are going to shake you wake up? Then you will become their prize.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Shall they not rise up suddenly that are your creditors, and awake that shall oppress you, and you shall be for booty unto them?
American King James Version
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite you, and awake that shall vex you, and you shall be for booties to them?
American Standard Version
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booty unto them?
Douay-Rheims Bible
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee: and they be stirred up that shall tear thee, and thou shalt be a spoil to them?
Darby Bible Translation
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and they awake up that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
English Revised Version
Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
Webster's Bible Translation
Shall they not rise suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall disturb thee, and thou shalt be for booties to them?
World English Bible
Won't your debtors rise up suddenly, and wake up those who make you tremble, and you will be their victim?
Young's Literal Translation
Do not thy usurers instantly rise up, And those shaking thee awake up, And thou hast been for a spoil to them?

Joseph said...

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/395/238/


U.S. Supreme Court
Boykin v. Alabama, 395 U.S. 238 (1969)
Boykin v. Alabama
No. 642
Argued March 4, 1969
Decided June 2, 1969
395 U.S. 238
Syllabus
Petitioner, a 27-year-old Negro, who was represented by appointed counsel, pleaded guilty to five indictments for common law robbery. The judge asked no questions of petitioner concerning his plea, and petitioner did not address the court. Under Alabama law providing for a jury trial to fix punishment on a guilty plea, the prosecution presented eyewitness testimony and petitioner's counsel cursorily cross-examined. Petitioner did not testify; no character or background testimony was presented for him, and there was nothing to indicate that he had a prior criminal record. The jury found petitioner guilty and sentenced him to death on each indictment. The Alabama Supreme Court reviewed the sentences under the State's automatic appeal statute for capital cases, which requires the reviewing court to comb the record for prejudicial error even though not raised by counsel. Petitioner did not raise the question of the voluntariness of his guilty plea, and the State Supreme Court did not pass on that question, though a majority of the court explicitly considered it in affirming his sentences of death.
Held:
1. This Court has jurisdiction to review the question of the voluntary character of the plea, since the plain error of the trial judge's acceptance of petitioner's guilty plea absent an affirmative showing that the plea was intelligent and voluntary was before the state court under the Alabama automatic appeal statute. Pp. 395 U. S. 241-242. ,
2. A waiver of the privilege against compulsory self-incrimination guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment and applicable to the States by the Fourteenth; of the right to trial by jury, and the right to confront one's accusers -- all of which are involved when a guilty plea is entered in a state criminal trial -- cannot be presumed from a silent record. Pp. 395 U. S. 242-243.
3. Acceptance of the petitioner's guilty plea under the circumstances of this case constituted reversible error because the record does not disclose that the petitioner voluntarily and understandingly entered his plea of guilty. Pp. 395 U. S. 243-244.
281 Ala. 659, 207 So.2d 412, reversed.
Page 395 U. S. 239

Joseph said...

Like the Boynken case, the court cannot accept guilty pleas unless there is first hand witness by an individual or individuals who sign an affidavit claiming to be an injured party. Without that the court has no jurisdiction. Hence there is no real injured party according to the statutes the Dorean Group were convicted under. The clients can't be considered to be victims as they don't pertain to the statutes.

The guilty pleas are invalid without facts to the case. The Judge is obligated to comb the record for facts to support the convictions & look for prejudicial errors.

Joseph said...

The right to confront one's accusers -- all of which are involved when a guilty plea is entered.

Where are the representative of the banks that claimed to be the victims in the court record and what is their loss claimed from the Dorean Process and where are their affidavits? Without their affidavits there cannot be facts before the court. If the banks foreclosed on the Dorean clients lawfully, the Dorean Paperwork becomes impotent, and there is no loss to the banks.

The Dorean clients that thought they were the victims, need to learn a lesson to what the people did in Iceland. The lesson being you have to get educated, band together & stop whinning about your perceived losses, and go after the real criminals, the banks, and have them thrown out of the country & get your debt repudiated by getting in honest government officials that will fight for the people's rights, and fight for the truth. Because the Dorean Clients have not done this, they are partly to blame for their own predicament. The Iceland people were successful, why can't we be? They've got the bankers on the run, and running scared. Aren't we better as Americans than the Iceland people? Apparently not, we're too busy only caring about our own problems, than being worried for the country as a whole. The Iceland people are better patriots than we are.

Joseph said...

The bankers that are remaining in Iceland are getting arrested and imprisoned for their crimes.

Too many clients were too busy blaming the Dorean Group that they failed to realize they weren't the one's to blame for their problems.

If the Iceland people can get the whole national debt repudiated, isn't that proof that Kurt & Scott were never the bad guys?

Joseph said...

What more difficult, getting your own mortgage discharged or getting a whole national debt discharged?

What is more difficult, accepting that Kurt & Scott will be successful and go free, or accept that Iceland got their whole national debt REPUDIATED?

Which is the greater miracle to believe or accept?

Joseph said...
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Joseph said...

If the Iceland people don't inspire you, you are spiritually dead.

Joseph said...

First we heard about the banks fixing the LIBOR rate. Now we have a settlement by Visa & Masterdard for fixing it's fees & these huge corporations agree to pay a penalty of 7.25 billion:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/visa-mastercard-banks-7-25-011503897.html

You can't read the news & not find out about new things the banks have done while getting caught with their fingers in the cookie jar.
Their fraud & bad behavior seems to know no bounds as new things are continually being found out.

persistancepays said...

fo dose ho don bleef in plant x, jim mccanme is da reel deel, an he say dat.....



July 13, 2012 posting ...

EMERGENCY POSTING ...

a large comet is heading towards the sun (coming from the south) and it has a visible companion to which it discharges electrically every time the companion orbits between the comet nucleus and the sun ... has this been the source (by Action at a Distance) for the solar flares we have been seeing lately ... one of which is poised to hit earth tomorrow july 14th ??? is this why NASA has been pulling the solar observatory feeds over the past week every time a large solar eruption occurs (due to comets from the south) ??? i hopefully will have enough data within a few hours to determine the mass of this comet nucleus and hopefully show the nucleus is more than a mere puffy "snowball" ... i just announced this on the 1st hour this evening as i was guest on the Coast to Coast AM show with George Noory as i was giving a solar update on the X-class flare that is earthbound at this time ... i will keep you posted ... jim mccanney


www.jmccanneyscience.com



ya, da end is cumming....here dat jug bins....

Joseph said...

Article debunking Planet X existence:

http://www.universetoday.com/14486/2012-no-planet-x/

If there were a planet of this size & it hit the earth, all life would be gone, not just some. So how are you going to fulfill all the rest of the Biblical prophecies? Can't be done. So no planet X can hit the earth in 2012.

judge allslop said...

Securities anyone?

"We bought some triple-A securities that we think are as good as Gold." ~ Jamie Dimon (CEO of JPMorgue)

Joseph said...

Planet X is utter nonsense.

Joseph said...

John Stuart has put together a legal brief that basically says when a bank assigns the note to an assignee, on the instrument it is always stamped: "Without recourse". Basically what that does is give the assignee of the note, the rights of only a "holder" of in the note, but not a "holder in due course". He has backed that up with court case precedences. This means that any assignee of the note cannot foreclose because he is only a "holder" and not a "holder in due course".

Joseph said...

Fred Gutierrez has put together a filling which seeks to disqualify a Judge due to violations of constitutional rights afforded and guaranteed to the homeowner. In order to foreclose on you, THEY ALWAYS VIOLATE YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. That is a given.

What I added to this is this fact. If the Judge is disqualified due to violation of his oath by violating your constitutional rights, then you can also motion the court that any judgment he signed in favor of the bank IS ALSO VOID too.

How's that for putting a stop to your foreclosure real fast. LOL

Then you sue the Judge and all parties in a Title 42 action civilly responsible for trying to steal your home or even after the fact. This might include sheriffs, trustees, etc. Immediately once you file a Title 42 action, THE JUDGE MUST RECUSE HIMSELF in any action he is involved with that concerns you. Also 10% of the Judge's bond must be put up to defend himself as a Defendant. These corrupt judges aren't use to defending these things & being the Defendant. Then you've turned the odds in your favor as the Plaintiff as most Title 42 actions filed by Plaintiff's turn out in favor of the Plaintiff. This is a statistical fact. And once you are victorious, the Judge can no longer serve in his capacity as a Judge. He is gone, his livelihood is gone too. Make them pay for their fraud. It is the right thing to do.

Joseph said...

Also if there is anyone out there that has been screwed by "Family Services" and have had a child taken away without a valid court order?

If Family Services does this without a valid court order this is tantamount to kidnapping. They have been known to do this. Doesn't even matter if they think the child is in danger or they felt they were acting in the child's best interest. This is all moot.

You have a 100% chance of winning in a title 42 action because they broke the law. That's worth at least a million dollars to you.

Joseph said...

Were you foreclosed upon without the court giving you a trial by jury? Or was your house foreclosed upon in a non-judicial State? Or did the Judge give summary judgment to the bank without giving you a trial by jury?

You're constitutional rights have been violated then.

Sue the bank civilly & criminally. Get your money back & make all the pretenders pay. They'll lose much more than you have lost.

Joseph said...

"without recourse" written on the note, ALTERS THE INSTRUMENT, thus making the assignee of the note, a "holder", NOT A HOLDER IN DUE COURSE, THAT CAN'T FORECLOSE.

§ 3-302. HOLDER IN DUE COURSE.

(a) Subject to subsection (c) and Section 3-106(d), "holder in due course" means the holder of an instrument if:

(1) the instrument when issued or negotiated to the holder does not bear such apparent evidence of forgery OR ALTERATION or is not otherwise so irregular or incomplete as to call into question its authenticity; and

(2) the holder took the instrument (i) for value, (ii) in good faith, (iii) without notice that the instrument is overdue or has been dishonored or that there is an uncured default with respect to payment of another instrument issued as part of the same series, (iv) without notice that the instrument contains an unauthorized signature or has been altered, (v) without notice of any claim to the instrument described in Section 3-306, and (vi) without notice that any party has a defense or claim in recoupment described in Section 3-305(a).

WHEN THE NOTE IS SOLD, YOU THE BORROWER HAVE A DEFENSE OR CLAIM IN RECOUPMENT, AS THE DEBT HAS BEEN PAID.
Thus the assignee of the note does not obtain the note as a "holder in due course" as it goes against the UCC.
If the assignee is not a holder in due course, THEY CANNOT FORECLOSE PERIOD.

How have we missed this fact for so long?

persistancepays said...

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i sore it on tb.

persistancepays said...

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Chaos For Their Order

For centuries the Sons of Darkness have attempted to gain total control of the Earth with arrogant defiance and utter contempt toward the will and authority of God. Their reward during this retrograde will be a paralyzing level of disruption and disorder that will rapidly escalate into various forms of unmanageable crisis and breakdowns of command and control. This state will come by way of the following types of events: violent accidents, assassination, murder, suicides, disappearances, sudden health failures, emergency evacuations, factional war, defections, high-profile lawsuits and scandals, arrests, forced resignations, the abandonment of positions, the seizure of assets, broken alliances, insider whistleblowing, equipment failures, mass revolts, and unexpected changes of heart. The scale of the disaster will demoralize even the most loyal among them and will scatter the less dedicated like roaches under sunlight. The lawless should fear this period of time.

persistancepays said...

"This state will come by way of the following types of events: violent accidents, assassination, murder, suicides, disappearances, sudden health failures, emergency evacuations, factional war, defections, high-profile lawsuits and scandals, arrests, forced resignations, the abandonment of positions, the seizure of assets, broken alliances, insider whistleblowing, equipment failures, mass revolts, and unexpected changes of heart.


sum ho, i always bleefed dat fo da last 5 yers.

even if they haft to kill da mofos, one way, da other, they will be remoofed....one ways, da others.....like like yo said....

persistancepays said...

"sudden health failures



yea, a lot of dem will be going into 'overtime'...ie, 'sudden debt' just like they put every nun else in.

persistancepays said...

haft i eva lyed to yo???


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persistancepays said...

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EVEN BIGGER THAN BURLY BAALS B@@LS!!!!


READ HERE!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey everybody this is electrifying!. I've pasted in an amazing exerpt
from the Yahoo Group I emailed you about last week (Reclaim Your
Securities). I thought we understood what we were doing. We've studied
everything. We read every email and the attachments yous end us. We went
to three Turner seminars and two PTKs and the first retreat. WE'VE BEEN
BLIND THE WHOLE TIME! NO ONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. I've
filed with Treasury three times all the way back to 1999 and my wife's
done it twice. I almost cried when I reread the Turner Freedom Documents
we sent in 2008. What was I thinking? This is how I pesented myself to
the government with this crap?! This posting opened my eyes like nothing
we've done in the last decade. IT'S AMAZING!!! Here's the link. Its no. 199.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reclaim_Your_Securities/message/199

In it the moderator refers to posting no. 146 which explains all the
things we were never told about how the courts work. I thought they
reach into the estate through treasury but they're doing it through us!
We're the ones who've been giving them the keys to the city! It's all in
there. Here's the link:.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reclaim_Your_Securities/message/146

Here's the link to the group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reclaim_Your_Securities/

cunt in youd'

persistancepays said...

cunt in you


Here's the exerpt:
The BC and BC Bond accomplish completely different tasks. The banker's
acceptance noted on the BC effectively says: "I never abandoned my
claim. I realize I'm a bit late, but here's my acceptance signed by a
bona fide admiralty proxy. And to prove my claim, I've attached copies
of UCC-1's demonstrating my lien against the strawman trust and the
assignment to another admiralty proxy."

We can express our claim this way because the public only presumed, but
never expressed, a claim against our securities. It can never make such
a claim without filing papers with the agency that confesses a capital
gains tax liability for the gain. You take my securities; you pay the tax.

Did you know that the banker's acceptance SHOULD IDEALLY BE BACK-DATED
to your 18th birthday? If you did not, then the BC security was not
claimed timely, and you cannot venture retroactively to settle liens,
loans and the like. (And you wonder why your acceptances fail?) If you
accept it as of today, then you are stuck with any bills which pre-date
today. Does that make sense?

The reason we mark the acceptance "CHARGE THE SAME TO JOHN HENRY DOE #
123-45-6789" is simple. WE ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING AT THIS TIME. Read
your B.C. Bond. It does two things, and neither involves paying the
accumulated debts of the strawman in the Individual Master File. (For
all the people who malign Winston and the other gurus, can you see that
Winston knew exactly what he was doing?)

First, the BC Bond directs the Secretary to open an account for the
purpose of offsetting future bills. Basically, you're opening an account
to leverage future securities.

HEY, ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY DO IN COURT as I explained in posting # 146
(Court, Securities, Case Bond & Trusts--The Inside Story). They file the
complaint or indictment and open a Court account to leverage securities.
The first security issued is the summons (civil) or an arrest warrant
(criminal) - both of which comprise an arrest of the vessel in
admiralty. (Like everything else in the public, the term "criminal" is
merely a delusion to stimulate fear.) In both cases, they arrest the
vessel to entice an owner, banker or creditor to appear
and post bond. THEY ARREST THE VESSEL TO GET TO THE SURETY. And who's
the surety? THE ESTATE, of course. That's the Admiralty Game.

AND THIS:
One more thing. WHY ARE YOU MARKING YOUR SETOFF ACCEPTANCES "CHARGE THE SAME
TO....???" When you pay a bill by setting it off against a pre-paid
account (the one you established with the BC Bond), shouldn't you note
the acceptance: "FOR CREDIT TO ACCOUNT # 123-45-6789?"

persistancepays said...

cunt in yo



Here's one from the one about the court (no. 146);
If you do not consent, they have an enormous problem. The case bond
becomes a RE-issue, a secondary offering of the original issue (your
Estate bond, the birth bond issued by Treasury and traded for currency
with the Fed upon your birth). A secondary offering falls under the
securities Exchange Act of 1934 AND IS NOT TAX-EXEMPT, so the entire
Fidelity fund where they sold the case bond is in jeopardy. This is a
catastrophe for the Court. DO you think this knowledge could mean power?
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER when dealing with these people, as the Father told us.

Joseph said...

When you're able to access monies, or discharge debt, let me know, otherwise, it's all worthless theory. Don't think Winston has all the answers either, as his system doesn't work.

persistancepays said...

"When you're able to access monies, or discharge debt, let me know, otherwise, it's all worthless theory. Don't think Winston has all the answers either, as his system doesn't work.




yea, the only system ho works is noone's sytem.


jimmy noone got the only sysim dat works.

even da dg sistom doesnt works.

Joseph said...

yea, the only system ho works is noone's sytem.
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Not true, some people are having success with "quiet title actions" against their lenders, and the EFT system is having court victories too as Judges are confirming judgments in favor of the borrowers due to the doctrine of "accord & satisfaction".
This means they are recognizing the EFT instruments as valid. The instrument in essence discharges the debt. The UCC laws support the process. When Judges are honest of the facts, you can win and many more are winning than you are even privy too.

Never did like this black or white stuff like "no one wins", it's all useless, why bother crap.

With an attitude like that, you might as well be dead.

Joseph said...

If more people would file Title 42 & Title 18 lawsuits against these bad public officials, we could start to put an end to all the rampant fraud & abuse of our rights. There is a movement going on now where people are starting to stand up.

The AUTHORITY FOR FINES (DAMAGES) CAUSED BY CRIMES BY
GOVERNMENT OFFICERS. These Damages were determined by GOVERNMENT itself
for the violation listed.
Breach Penalty Authority
VIOLATION OF OATH OF OFFICE $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
DENIED PROPER WARRANT(S) $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
DENIED RIGHT OF REASONABLE
DEFENSE ARGUMENTS $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
DEFENSE EVIDENCE (RECORDS) $250,000.00 18 USC 357I
DENIED RIGHT TO TRUTH
IN EVIDENCE $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
SLAVERY (Forced Compliance
to contracts not held) $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
DENIED PROVISIONS IN THE
CONSTITUTION $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
TREASON (combined above actions). $250,000.00 18 USC 3571
GENOCIDE $1,000,000.00 18 USC 1091
MISPRISION OF FELONY $500.00 18 USC 4
CONSPIRACY $10,000.00 18 USC 241
EXTORTION $5,000.00 18 USC 872
MAIL THREATS $5,000.00 18 USC 876
FRAUD $10,000.00 18 USC 1001
FALSIFICATION OF DOCUMENTS $10,000.00 18 USC 1001
PERJURY $2,000.00 18 USC 1621
SUBORNATION OF PERJURY $2,000.00 18 USC 1622
GRAND THEFT (18 USC 2112) each $250,000.00
To determine multiply no. of counts by damage 18 USC 3571
RACKETEERING (Criminal) $25,000.00 18 USC 1963
RACKETEERING (Civil)
Wages Taken $x3 = 5? 18 USC 1964
(Sustained Damages [total] x 3)
Thirty-seven (37) Constitutional violations from Count 1: = $9,250,000.00 Damages
Dealing with claims of "immunity."
Any claim of " immunity" is a fraud because, if valid, it would prevent removal from office
for crimes against the people, which removal is authorized or even mandated under U.S.
Constitution Article 2, Section IV; as well as 18 USC 241, 42 USC 1983, 1985, 1986, and
other state Constitutions.
Precedents of Law established by COURT cases, which are in violation of law,
render violations of law legally unassailable. Such a situation violates several specifically
stated intents and purposes of the Constitution set forth in the Preamble; to establish
justice, insure domestic tranquility, and secure the-blessings of liberty. For JUDGES, or
anyone in any branch of government.

Joseph said...

Cops can't just pull you over & ask for I.D. as that constitutes an unreasonable search, seizure and arrest. Cops that set up road blocks to check for ID are also violating the Supreme Court:

http://www.setoffdebt.com/access/documents/Important-Rulings-By-Supreme-Court.pdf

Joseph said...

"Banks must always bring their account balances to 0 at the end of each day, so they use the discharge side of the people's accounts to settle the balances and bring them to 0 as required by law."

"Unlike a wire transfer, banks cannot reverse an EFT. Once it's done, it's done, and cannot be undone." So this is why EFT's are the most effective way in discharging major debts like mortgages:

http://www.setoffdebt.com/access/documents/EFT-HOW-IT-WORKS-FLIER.pdf

See FDIC regulations: 15 USC-78c and 15 USC 1692e

Joseph said...

Kurt needs to get a copy of Judge Alsup's "oath of office", and go after him in a Title 18 criminal lawsuit.

Why would Judge Alsup finally relent because the Supreme Court disagrees with him? He's not going to go against what he has put his John Hancock upon! That's political suicide. If Judge Alsup overturns his own judgments, then of course, it's an open-shut case where the Dorean Group's constitutional rights have been violated, because it's an admission of his guilt, not to mention a violation of Judge Alsup's oath of office without question, which just that infraction is a $250,000 penalty. Each act is a separate offense. There have been many acts where Judge Alsup violated his oath of office. Kurt knows what they all are. That alone could be a lengthy discussion.

You can't imprison someone in Federal prisons in many instances without violating their constitutional rights. In Kurt & Scott's case, they were put there unjustly through statutes that didn't even apply to their behavior. The Judges knew that, the US attorneys knew that, the FBI knew that. They were all complicit.

Joseph said...

Hey, if Judge Alsup has no oath of office on record, guess what?
He's an imposter and all his judgments ARE VOID. He can't now file an oath of office on the record. He's screwed! It's worth the investigation. Then Kurt & Scott have a get of of jail free card.

If he does have an oath of office on record, he has sworn to uphold the constitutional rights of people.
Guess what? He has not done that, so he HAS VIOLATED HIS OATH. YOu can use that as evidence against the Judge in a Title 18 action & get him disbarred & thrown off the bench.

JUDGE ALSUP IS A TARGET, AN EASY TARGET. HE WILL GO DOWN, BUT ONLY IF SOMEONE GOES HUNTING FOR HIM. You can't wait for the prey to have a change of conscience. Won't ever happen! I know that Kurt has been trying to convert Judge Alsup to the light and truth even before he was convicted. It's certainly commendable of him to expect the best in someone and to have a redeeming hope for him. Isn't going to happen though. I hope Kurt eventually comes to that understanding and truth that he is mistaken on that issue. Barring a revelation received by him from the Almighty, I just don't believe that will ever happen. There's no evidence whatsoever to date to suggest that event. I understand the repentence process as well as anyone. Judge Alsup is not a repentant man in any degree or respect.

Joseph said...

Kurt, are you listening or reading the blog? Here's where someone can go to get a copy of a Federal Judge's oath of office. You must have someone do the work for you, but it's worth the time:

http://www.setoffdebt.com/access/documents/FederalJudgesOathOfOffices.pdf

If Judge Alsup doesn't have an oath of office on file, it will say so in the record.

Joseph said...

WHERE TO GET OATH OF OFFICE FOR FEDERAL JUDGES

Ms. Michele E Reed, Acting Chief
Article III Judges Division
OJP-ATJD
Administrative Office of the US Courts
Thurgood Marshall Federal Judiciary Building
One Columbus Circle, N.E.
Washington, DC 20544

The judge has a duty continually inspect the record of the case, and if subject matter jurisdiction
does not appear at any time from the record of the case, then he has the duty to dismiss the case as
lacking subject matter jurisdiction. Should a judge act in any case in which he does not have subject
matter jurisdiction, he is acting unlawfully, U.S. v.Will 449 U.S. 200, 216, 101 S. Ct. 471, 66 L. Ed. 2d 392,
406 (1980); Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. (6 Wheat) 264, 404, 5 L. Ed 257 (1821), and without any judicial
authority.

Joseph said...

5 U.S.C.
CHAPTER 33 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 3331
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§ 3331. OATH OF OFFICE

An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of
honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the
following oath: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take
this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;
and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I
am about to enter. So help me God.” This section does not affect other oaths
required by law.

Joseph said...

Oath of office required for all lawyers and judges who are in the BAR:

http://www.setoffdebt.com/access/documents/Oath-ofOfficefortheBARJan24-1865.pdf

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Joseph said...

IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
HONOLULU DIVISION
STATE OF HAWAII



STATE OF HAWAII )
Plaintiff )
v. )
) Case No. 0AAA-00-00000
)
John M Doe )
Defendant in Error )

MANDATORY JUDICIAL NOTICE OF LAW TO THIS COURT


COMES NOW, Defendant, in error, John M Doe, a Natural Citizen (see attached) who
hereby notices the Court,

of the following:

1. No summons or warrant has been lawfully issued obtaining the appearance of any
Defendant in this matter as required pursuant to HRPP 9 (a)(1-2);
2. Without the issuance and service of a lawful summons or warrant, Doe makes only a special appearance before this court to inform the court of error in this matter.

Joseph said...

3. Doe has not been served any Complaint in this matter supported by any accusing instrument, accusatory instrument, affidavit of probable cause, or ANY instrument from which any reasonable person could determine probable cause, thereby initiating the court's jurisdiction in compliance with HRPP 5b and in compliance with the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment protections. See State v. Kaahaaina, 2001 Haw. App. LEXIS 204 (Haw. Ct. App. Oct. 17, 2001) Holding that the State failed to properly initiate the criminal proceeding against the defendant because the defendant was never formally charged orally or by written complaint supported by sworn statement or affidavit and thus failed to initiate jurisdiction in the District Court.
4. Without sufficient and lawful process as directed per HRPP 5b and 9 (a)(1-2); at
minimum, the court's jurisdiction cannot be invoked and, therefore, no matter is before
this court and this matter is void AB INITIO. This failure to follow Hawaii Rules of
Penal Procedure and HRS § 805-1 violated the Defendant’s due process rights. See State
v. Kaahaaina, 2001 Haw. App. LEXIS 204 (Haw. Ct. App. Oct. 17, 2001) Holding that
defendant was improperly charged because the complaint and summons forms used by the
officer failed to comply with HRS § 805-1 and HRPP Rule 7 (d).

Joseph said...

5. This court without jurisdiction, precludes the judge from making an offer of a plea to
the defendant in error without, in so doing, putting fraud upon the court..

6. The Prosecutor in this matter knew or should have known that without the issuance of
sufficient process, there is no charge or complaint against Doe.
7. The man acting as judge in this matter, Dean Ochiai, who has had this matter brought before him in this court, knew or should have known that the court is patently, unambiguously, and wholly without jurisdiction because the insufficiency of process used in this matter precludes initiating the court’s jurisdiction.
8. In light of the facts before the court, the person acting as judge must act ministerially and should, sua sponte, dismiss or remove this matter from the court with prejudice as it is void AB INITIO.

Therefore, the District Court of the First Circuit Honolulu Division, State of Hawaii is given mandatory judicial notice by John M Doe, in light of the foregoing lawful and valid facts, that there is no matter before this court and that any and all parties who pursue any trial of this matter are acting in fraud and misrepresentation and in violation of clearly established law, procedures, rules of evidence, and of the rights of this defendant in error.

Joseph said...

Respectfully submitted,
All Rights Reserved

/s/John M Doe
John M Doe, American Citizen
C/o 123 Sesame Drive #37
Honolulu, Hawaii [00000]








CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE


I certify that on June 1, 2012, a true and exact copy of the aforesaid Mandatory Judicial Notice of Law was delivered to Honolulu Prosecutor's Office or their representative in person.

Joseph said...

Point being: Where is the
accusing instrument, accusatory instrument, affidavit of probable cause, or ANY instrument from which any reasonable person could determine probable cause, thereby initiating the court's jurisdiction over Kurt & Scott?

Without this THERE IS NO CASE. AND THERE IS NO JURISDICTION THE COURT COULD HAVE TAKEN OVER THE DOREAN GROUP.

persistancepays said...

yea, the only system ho works is noone's sytem.
________________________

Not true, some people are having success with "quiet title actions" against their lenders, and the EFT system is having court victories too as Judges are confirming judgments in favor of the borrowers due to the doctrine of "accord & satisfaction".




first yo say dat dis shit dosent works, den yo say it works?

make up yo mine, or yors??

eat a way?

persistancepays said...

WOW! James Holmes (CO Shooter) FatherVIP with American Credit Score and about to appear before Congress for LIBOR




http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=141704
If this information is correct, James Holmes' father, Robert Holmes, is a VIP with American Credit Score Company and is about to appear before Congress regarding this LIBOR scandal. Guess what? Now, he is having to focus attention on this ordeal with his mind-controlled son. This could be the reason his son was chosen as the Manchurian candidate for yet another staged event aimed at convincing the masses that gun control is necessary for the safety of the public.
Because of this event, gun sales in Colorado escalated to an all time high. Hmmm.. NICE!!!!!!!! Remember, folks, guns are no good without ammo and you need more than a few rounds.
Maryhrt
2) The shooter is the son of of Robert Holmes, the senior lead scientist with the American Credit Score Company FICO.
Guess where his son went to school and where Robert Holmes lives?
Berkeley, California - home of Timothy Leary and the original LSD mind control experiments.
Robert Holmes is about to testify before Congress on the Banking Scandal called the "Libor Scam."
The manipulation of these credit rates has made the top 12 banks in the western world look very solid. The truth is about to surface.
$45 trillion given to these banks by Bush and Obama did not go to the banks - but about 92,000 of the Lucifarian Elites.
Please see: Colorado Massacre Linked to Historic Bank Fraud.
3) This Libor Scandal was exposed to the US Federal Reserve Bank of New York way back in 2008 and they covered it up. Apparently they also used their influence with the Operations Director of the CIA to kill all these people in a theater to distract Robert Holmes so he would not testify.

Joseph said...

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF ORANGE, CENTRAL JUSTICE CENTER
DEPARTMENT C65


XXXX XXXXX Case No. 08D004XXX
PETITIONER
v.

Xxxxx Xxxxxx as
RESPONDENT/CITEE in Error


AFFIDAVIT OF DISQUALIFICATION OF JUDGE


COMES NOW I, Xxxxx Xxxxxx, a living, breathing, natural born, free man on the soil, a Sovereign American Citizen, (see attached Affidavit of Status ) sui juris, RESPONDENT /CITEE in error, with and claiming all of my unlimited, inherent, unalienable, Constitutionally secured Rights, and with my name lawfully and properly spelled only in upper and lower case letters, and who appears by Special Appearance, without accepting the jurisdiction of this Court, which I have duly challenged, and without consenting to jurisdiction and these proceedings, hereby respectfully makes and presents this AFFIDAVIT OF DISQUALIFICATION OF JUDGE, for the following valid reasons which are based in truth, fact, law and evidence and in pursuance of H.R.S. §601-7(b):
I, Xxxxx Xxxxxx, the undersigned, make this Affidavit/Declaration of Truth of my own free will, and I hereby affirm, declare and swear, under my oath, that I am of legal age and of sound mind and hereby attest that the information contained in this Affidavit/Declaration is true and correct and not misleading.

Joseph said...

1. On April 3, 2012, your Affiant appeared at the SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY OF ORANGE, CENTRAL JUSTICE CENTER DEPARTMENT #C65 and before the man acting as judge, Xxxxx Xxxxxx, herein after Millard.
2. Your Affiant has been presented with no sworn summons, sworn complaint, sworn information, or any sworn accusatory instrument by any first hand material fact witness, which would thereby lawfully invoke the civil or criminal jurisdiction of a court of lawful compliance and competence specific to matters of the people.
3. Xxxxxx (judge), as a servant of the people in his official capacity as judge is required pursuant to his sworn and subscribed Oath of Office, as his first duty, is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California. See attached Exhibit B.

Joseph said...

4. This Constitution includes the protections guaranteed to Affiant pursuant to the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 14th amendment, at minimum.
5. Pursuant to this same Constitution Article III section 2, in paraphrase, the only court designated and allowed by the people and the framer’s of the Constitution to hear matters of the people is a court in which all officers of the court have and abide by their sworn and subscribed oaths of office, ensure that all aspects of due process are upheld, and in which all matters are heard trial by jury. See Exhibit C.
6. Millard in his official capacity has no delegated Constitutional authority to deny and oppose the very documents to which he swore his Oath.
7. Your Affiant objected on the record, and repeatedly so, to the proceedings in this matter before the aforementioned court on April 3, 2012 because the venue in this matter was not bound nor did it comply with the mandates and requirements of Article III section 2 of the Federal Constitution. See Exhibit A.
8. Your Affiant has not chosen to accept the court appointed attorney and specifically stated on the record this decision and your affiant further made the statement that this alleged person “representative” is to be immediately removed as Affiant’s representative in this matter as affiant has the guaranteed 1st, 4th, 9th, and 14th amendment protections to speak for himself. Exhibit A page 1 line 11.

Joseph said...

9. Millard stated to your Affiant in this proceeding, "Well, whether you consent or not is up to you. This court ultimately hears everything, including motions to dismiss and other matters. It (I) can make a sentence that involves five days (in jail) for each count.” (See Exhibit A page 1 line 23).
10. Millard then stated for the record that he was entering pleas on behalf of your Affiant even though a proper jurisdiction had not been invoked (see Exhibit A page 7 line 25).
11. Millard then stated to your Affiant that he would not be entitled to a trial by jury.
12. Millard’s own words on Exhibit A page 7 line 13, he states, “I recognize that you don’t consent to the court’s jurisdiction. The state of California has jurisdiction over the dissolution of the marriage and the provisions of that document and as such I’m going to ask you whether you agree or disagree with the request made of the PETITIONIER, in other words, do you plead guilty or not guilty to the charges that she’s made?”
13. Your Affiant continued to state that he could not and did not consent to the proceedings.

I certify by my signature that this affidavit is made in good faith, as I speak for myself in this matter without other representation. Further, because the man acting as Judge Millard, has repeatedly and consistently acted in violation of my Constitutionally secured and guaranteed Rights and thereby perjured his sworn Oath of Office, he is therefore disqualified pursuant to H.R.S. §601-7(b).
Affiant further sayeth naught.
All Rights Reserved
________________________________ _______________________
Xxxxx Xxxxxx, Affiant Date
NOTARY STATEMENT
In the State of California
County of Orange
I swear that on this 25th day of May, 2012, the above named Affiant Xxxxx Xxxxxx, _____________________, appeared before me, and of his own free will, signed this Affidavit of Truth.
__________________________
Notary Public
My Commission Expires:______________
Notary Seal:

Joseph said...

Disqualify Judge Alsup and void all of his rulings.

persistancepays said...

Disqualify Judge Alsup and void all of his rulings.



yea, all yo gotta do is say 'get off da case, o al slap yo upside yo haid' jugs.

Joseph said...

No, the fines for violating constitutional rights are $250,000 per occurrence. How about one's right to a "speedy trial"? How about one's right to have a Judge who isn't partial and doesn't have an agenda and doesn't have a self interest in the case? What about the Judge's actions that violated his oath of office?

Between a Title 42 civil action & a Title 18 criminal action you're going to bankrupt the Judge, and ruin his record and reputation, and also get him disbarred because his bonding company will have to pay out. It will be much more than a slap in the face. It will be a wake up to reality for him. He'll wish he never did what he did.

These Judges get away with what they do, because people don't make them accountable for their actions. There are remedies available for people like him.

persistancepays said...

"These Judges get away with what they do, because people don't make them accountable for their actions. There are remedies available for people like him."



"[When you're able to access monies, or discharge debt, let me know,]... otherwise, it's all worthless theory."




"There are remedies....otherwise, it all useless theory."



???


wtf?


eether theys remdis avalybal or it all you less theerys. which is it not?

persistancepays said...

da full/bull answer is dat what yo says, he will says da oppsite.


if yo says it works, he will says it donest works.


if yo syas dat it do0nt works, he will says dat it duz works.


scuse hisself...he jus all fu**ked up in da haid is all is is.

persistancepays said...

man plunches to his debt




Tate Modern death fall man 'was senior HSBC banker'

A man who plunged 100ft to his death at the Tate Modern art gallery in London was a senior bank manager with HSBC.

Michael Foreman, 48, fell from a fifth-floor balcony in the members’ bar area of the gallery on the South Bank last Tuesday evening.

The banker, who lived in Grays, Essex, with his wife Janet, was reported missing the day before he died.

Horrified witnesses described seeing a man dressed in a suit without a tie plunge from the bar area shortly before the gallery, whose imposing building was once a power station, closed at 6pm. Police are not treating the incident as suspicious.

Mr Foreman was named today as an inquest into his death opened at Southwark Coroner’s Court.

The short hearing was told that he was a “senior bank manager with HSBC” and died from “multiple traumatic injuries”. He was formally identified by his wife.

He had worked for HSBC for 30 years and was based in head office in Canary Wharf in the business banking section.

An HSBC spokesman said: "Our thoughts are with his wife and family."

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9437969/Tate-Modern-death-fall-man-was-senior-HSBC-banker.html

persistancepays said...

if yo a senoir baker makin da doe, make sho dat yo dont 'fall' fo it. yo can eesily fall to yo debt.



make sho to yooze plenty yeest so yo can rise to da occason.

persistancepays said...

"Our thoughts are with his wife and family."



ye, yo tawts r wit his falamy or rite....yo tawts r dat yo aint next one to fall fo yo debt


if yo involved in makin doe, dat is if yo a baker, yo gut plenty to concern about dat yo mite bee nest.

persistancepays said...

yo tawt dat yo sore a putty cat is all

persistancepays said...

uh oh!!

looks wha time is it???


NO!

persistancepays said...

"Mr Morris added: "He had a brother who used to work for HSBC too, but he tragically died years ago."



c wha yo meen?


bester off to listen to yo, an stoop makin da doe.

persistancepays said...

beefo yo plunch to yo debts 2

persistancepays said...

An Iranian court has sentenced four people to death and given two more life sentences on charges linked to a $2.6 billion bank fraud described as the biggest financial scam in the country's history, an official said Monday.

The trial, which began in February, involved some of the country's largest financial institutions and raised uncomfortable questions about corruption at senior levels in Iran's tightly controlled economy.

But few specific details have been released, possibly to avoid exposing too much internal scandal while Iran's leaders seek to assure the country it can ride out tightening sanctions over Tehran's nuclear program.

Prosecutors have only referred to the linchpin defendant by a nickname and have provided just general information about his purported business empire. The main charges included using forged documents to get credit at one of Iran's top bank to purchase assets, including major state-owned companies.

The official IRNA news agency gave no names at all for most of the other defendants in the Revolutionary Court, which deals with cases involving security and organized crime. The report quoted state prosecutor Gholam Hossein Mohseni Ejehei as saying a total of 39 defendants received sentences, including four death sentences, two life terms and the rest of up to 25 years in prison.

persistancepays said...

probalby a mossage agents to give a rubdown to bakers.

Joseph said...

"There are remedies....otherwise, it all useless theory."
_______________________________

The banks will fight you irregardless of the remedy.

persistancepays said...

"There are remedies....otherwise, it all useless theory."
_______________________________

The banks will fight you irregardless of the remedy.




my pint esacly.

yo cant win like yo sayed.

Joseph said...

Without an oath of office, the person can't get a surety bond, so they are acting as an imposter. When you act as an imposter, you are acting without authority, and you are totally liable and have no shield of liability in the office you are pretending to hold, whether it's a judge or government official.

Joseph said...

Fannie Mae Purchases Their Own REO
Mystery Buyer Snaps Up Foreclosure Homes
Phoeniz, Arizona - July 27, 2012 - In a astonishing article by Catherine Reagor of The Arizona Republic published on AZCentral.com I was stunned to learn that Fannie Mae might actually be buying up their own REO listings through a shadow LLC they created.


I am sure you are as amazaed as I am and I have to admit, I haven't independently verified any of this information but, I am hoping the REOPro community can help with that. Below is a direct link to the article, please read it yourself and email me back with any information you may have.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/realestate/articles/20120727mystery-buyer-snaps-up-foreclosure-homes.html

OMO said...

Without an oath of office, the person can't get a surety bond, so they are acting as an imposter.
_______________________

Government employees are not required to have surety bonds. See Constitution for the U.S.A.
(1787).

Fastforward this video to 30:00 and start listening:

[Government is a fiduciary trust)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7jEJ2MwiHc

Joseph said...

yo cant win like yo sayed.
________________________

Almost 180 million in debts zeroed out since Jan. 2012.

persistancepays said...

"Almost 180 million in debts zeroed out since Jan. 2012




"The banks will fight you irregardless of the remedy.


you win/you lose

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ah, fu*k it!

Joseph said...

Laws violated against the Dorean Group:

§ 241. Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State,
Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or
privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so
exercised the same;...

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results
from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to
kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill,
they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be
sentenced to death.
§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any inhabitant of
any State, Territory, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by
the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such
inhabitant being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens,
shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results shall be subject
to imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

Joseph said...

More on deprivation of rights:

http://corpuslegalis.com/us/code/title18/conspiracy-against-rights

Joseph said...

For each occurrance of deprivation one of rights:

1968—Pub. L. 90–284 increased limitation on fines from $5,000 to $10,000 and provided for imprisonment for any term of years or for life when death results.

Joseph said...

or imprisoned not more than one year.

Yea, put Judge Alsup in prison for a year.

Let's see how he likes it.

Joseph said...

. The grand jury can find no bill nor make any presentment except upon the testimony of witnesses sworn in a particular case, where the party is charged with a specified offense.'

Where are the testimonies under oath that caused the indictiment of the Dorean Group?

Joseph said...

Other cases lay down the principle that it must be made to appear to the grand jury that there is reason to believe that a crime has been committed, and that they have not the power to institute or prosecute an inquiry on the chance that some crime may be discovered. Re Morse, 18 N. Y. Crim. Rep. 312, 87 N. Y. Supp. 721; State v. Adams, 2 Lea, 647, an unimportant case, turning upon a local statute. In Pennsylvania, grand juries are somewhat more restricted in their powers than is usual in other states (McCullough v. Com. 67 Pa. [201 U.S. 43, 65] 30; Rowand v. Com. 82 Pa. 405; Com. v. Green, 126 Pa. 531, 12 Am. St. Rep. 894, 17 Atl. 878), and in Tennessee inquisitorial powers are granted in certain cases and withheld in others (State v. Adams, supra; State v. Smith, Meigs, 99, 33 Am. Dec. 132).

Joseph said...

God's position on foreclosures:

Ezekiel 45:9 New Living Translation (NLT) – Rules for the Princes “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Enough, you princes of Israel! Stop your violence and oppression and do what is just and right. Quit robbing and cheating my people out of their land. Stop expelling them from their homes, says the Sovereign Lord.

Joseph said...

Interesting notes I took somewhere:

Defendant needs to have a copy of the true & original indictment. If it's not signed, then the charges are bogus, & fraud on the court has been committed.

For the record, "I accept your oath and I'm submitting a plea of the crown in this case."

A "plea of the crown" is a third plea. First plea is guilty, a plea of not guilty is the other option.

Creditor is aware that the statute merchant true bill is in need of the creditors signature to validate the security portrayed as a commodity and that the concealment of the original writ is advantageous to the fiduciary (district or US Attorney), as it must be frivolous. Creditor is in possession of a "certified true reproduction of the security and now needs the original writ to move the court."

"The creditor was considered "incompetent' because the creditor never asked for a copy of the original writ, that awas concealed by the Judge and District Attorney / US Attorney.

There is no original writ property signed.

These indictments/securities, I know are sold on the market like bonds are sold and traded. Putting charges against people is big business.

Wonder if this could be a loophole to get out of prison for for Kurt & Scott?

judge allslop said...

Thanks to Kurt and Scott, the mortgage process is starting to be recognized for the sham it is by the courts. May the so called individual that presided over the dorean monkey trial be given equal justice. In an extremely well-written and well reasoned decision Federal District Court Judge M. James Lorenz denied the Motion to dismiss of US Bank on an alleged WAMU securitization that for the first time recognizes that the securitization scheme could be a sham, with no basis in fact.The Court states that the failure to assign the loan in the manner and timing set forth in the “trust document” (presumably the Pooling and Servicing Agreement) that the note and Deed of trust are not part of the trust and that therefore the trustee had no basis for asserting ownership, much less the right to enforce.
Naranjo v. SBMC MORTGAGE, Dist. Court, SD California 2012 No. 11-cv-2229-L(WVG)

Joseph said...

Securitization is a scam because it takes the promissory note and basically turns the note into a stock offering where there are hundreds if not thousands of owners of the stock offering, where none of the owners of interest have the right to foreclose as none of them have a perfected secured legal interest in the property. So when a servicer tries to foreclose after the loan has been securitized and sold, they are pretenders with no legal standing to take your home period. It doesn't matter what paperwork they make up or show, it's all fraudulent with no legal standing. For a Judge to rule otherwise, he is dishonoring his oath of office as there are already many standing cases to prove this point.

Securitization is a sham too because the note obligation gets paid off in the securitization process when the note is indorsed, so for a third party debt collector, & that's what these loan servicers are, they are illegally collecting monies on a loan that was already paid off and sold. You can't transfer or sell a debt after it has been discharged or paid off. To try and collect on a debt that has been discharged or paid off IS FRAUD. iT IS ALSO CALLED "DOUBLE DIPPING", "UNJUST ENRICHMENT". You can't legally get paid twice on the same debt obligation, or charge a borrower to pay twice over or even more, but banks have been doing this type of cheating for a very long time. It's their objective to keep the public ignorant of what is really going on behind the scenes.

Joseph said...

You weren't giving a loan, but we're forced to participate in a loan securitization scam that wasn't part of the agreement, where the banks profited off your signature and ignorance and in turn lowered the value of your home that you bought. Legalized stealing is what it amounts too.

OMO said...

Fluoride in flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfldJIGk7fg&feature=g-all-f

OMO said...

New film coming this winter. Watch the trailer TOMORROW morning at

http://theintelhub.com/2012/08/05/major-announcement-go-ape-shit/

OMO said...

Inmates stole $39 million from IRS?? I don't think so. It looks like they were filing 0 returns with 4852s.

start listing at 29:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdbeZDjGaO0&feature=g-vrec

persistancepays said...

SIRIUS MOVIE FIMLAKER KILLED IN WISC SICK SHOOTINGS

WAS WARNED BY THE CABLE NOT TO FILM



Sunday, August 5, 2012


Sirius (Dr Steven Greer) Film-maker's Father SHOT in Sikh Temple Massacre
The Rumor Mill News Reading Room

Sirius (Dr Steven Greer) Film-maker's Father SHOT in Sikh Temple Massacre
Posted By: Susoni [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 5-Aug-2012 20:06:30


I can't verify this yet ...
"Arm Kaleka's father was the target of a professional Illuminati revenge-hit in a Wisconsin Sihk temple. Arm Keleka was threatened while making this film.
This is the Sirius movie trailer:

Talking about the Father being killed...


Another revenge murder by the Cabal.

ALL THE GUILTY OF THE AURORA AND THE SIKH TEMPLE SHOOTINGS MUST BE PUT DOWN ; THEY ARE RABID DOG SATANIC MURDERERS .
NEW: Sirius (Dr Steven Greer) Film-maker’s Father SHOT in Sihk Temple Massacre (views: 165)
Susoni — Sunday, 5-Aug-2012 20:06:30


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lp9aOb04e20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4uQq9lVsUk4

judge allslop said...

Of course it will dropped, they would ALL be in prison. Lunatics run the asylum.

U.S. regulator set to drop silver probe: FT
LONDON | Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:51am EDT

(Reuters) – U.S. regulators are set to drop a four-year investigation into the possible manipulation of the silver market after failing to find enough evidence to support a legal case, the Financial Times reported on Sunday, citing three people familiar with the situation.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission first announced that it was investigating "complaints of misconduct in the silver market" in September 2008 after a group of precious metals investors alleged manipulation, the FT reported.
Previous CFTC silver inquiries in 2004 and 2008 found no evidence of wrongdoing, the paper noted.

persistancepays said...

it dun matta. we will haft r settle mints by 2025 anyaays....jus in thyme fo yo retry mint

Joseph said...

Standard Charter Bank may lose it's license:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11655867/1/jpmorgan-state-street-may-face-standard-chartered-fallout.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN

judge allslop said...

Crime syndicate Don, Jamie Dimon blames YOU for the bad economy. The arrogance of these people has no boundaries.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-gongloff/jamie-dimon-economy_b_1755732.html

ian said...

Two questions: Is there a post the outlines your story concisely? How would one reach you?

persistancepays said...

you cant reach jugs all slop. he in da can rite now fo his debts.

Joseph said...

Ian: YOu can reach Kurt Johnson here or you can request to correspond with him through corr Links below:

KURT F JOHNSON 13177-081
FCI HERLONG
FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
P.O. BOX 800
HERLONG, CA 96113
_______________________________

https://www.corrlinks.com/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fMessageProcessed.aspx%3ftype%3dsend&type=send

Here's kind of a one sided history provided by the Court:

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=1&xmldoc=in fco 20100706135.xml&docbase=cslwar3-2007-curr&SizeDisp=7

judge allslop said...

Forget doing time if you commit the crime, please pay the fine. (PS we'll give it back later).

Standard Chartered, New York regulator reach $340 million settlement
By Karen Freifeld
NEW YORK | Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:25pm EDT

(Reuters) – Standard Chartered Plc has agreed to pay $340 million to settle allegations that it hid transactions with Iran from regulators, the New York Department of Financial Services said on Tuesday.

In addition to the civil penalty, the bank agreed to install a monitor (you've got to be fucking kidding me) for at least two years to evaluate the bank’s money-laundering risk controls in its New York branch, the department said in a statement.

persistancepays said...

it all jus da same chit...s.....

persistancepays said...

it all jus da same chit...s.....


it meen dat dis bog is now (an haft bin so sum times now) bing run by da govt.


they jus runnin it now to see who logs on an what they saying.


kirk has been beem up a long times ago.


it all now jus BS is all is is

yo well cum to stay if yo like

persistancepays said...

...but yo wunt git any noo infro on da dg or da settel mints.


it gonna taste mo like chit now dan $tale mint$

judge allslop said...

Its official now. Any and all property, personal possessions, bank accounts, retirement funds as well as trading funds can be lawfully stolen from you.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-sentinel-appeals-decision-idUSBRE87900T20120810

OMO said...

Any and all property, personal possessions, bank accounts, retirement funds as well as trading funds can be lawfully stolen from you.
__________________________

Digital thieves. That's exactly why a cashless society won't work-- too risky to leave your digits where they can be lifted in a blink of an eye with no accountability.

persistancepays said...

it all gong digal fo a reeeson.


soon yo wont be able to use fedal revserse nots anymo beecause they are privat protpy and they wont gives permission to use then anymo.

persistancepays said...

nurse who 'saw everything' at colo hspital/batman shooting drowns while swimming


???


http://www.theendrun.com/batman-shooting-nurse-jenny-gallagher-dead-at-46-alleged-drowning

OMO said...



Get your money out: All Legal Bank Deposit Protections Are Now Officially Gone'

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32180.htm

OMO said...

Startling Evidence That Central Banks And Wall Street Insiders Are Rapidly Preparing For Something BIG

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/startling-evidence-that-central-banks-and-wall-street-insiders-are-rapidly-preparing-for-something-big

judge allslop said...

A interesting story from a gal who ran Countrywide Financial fraud risk mgmt dept turned whistleblower. She is lucky to be still alive or not in prison as she details the inner workings of the crime syndicate, much like "Animal House" turned entrepreneurs.

http://www.fedupusa.org/2012/07/countrywide-whistleblower-reveals-rampant-mortgage-fraud-part-of-everyday-business/

persistancepays said...

....no dg...no stale mints....no kirk...no dr. dred...no nuttin'...perty soon....no blaaagh......blaaagh....blaagh....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

persistancepays said...

last nun out, lock da doe, cloz da lites.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

judge allslop said...

Hope the so called settlements are in gold or silver. The crime syndicate just passed $16 trillion in debt, only 286 days from $15 trillion.At this rate
$17 trillion on June 10, 2013
$18 trillion on March 23, 2014
$19 trillion on January 3, 2015
$20 trillion on October 16, 2015

judge allslop said...

"Lenin was certainly right. There is no more positive, or subtle means of destroying the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate secretly and unobserved an important part of the wealth of the citizens. The process engages all the hidden forces of economics on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose." John Maynard Keynes.

Wonderful news from the CNBC money bunnies. Prices of home are up %1.0 in twenty cities.Wonder how things are in the other 19,554?. Should we count the tens of thousands of foreclosed homes they're purposely hiding? How many others have chains of title that look like Swiss cheese and were paid for years ago through bail outs,TARP and credit default swaps? Home prices are back to where they were 10 years ago and this is good news? I think I'll pop a beer and celebrate.

judge allslop said...

http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/29/13547471-bank-of-america-hasnt-modified-any-mortgages-so-far-under-settlement

The USGovt has not stopped its role to create perfect storm conditions in the housing market, still meddling and distorting the market. The Federal Housing Admin filled the reckless lending void created by the massive financial troubles at FNM & FRE. The federal subsidization of the housing market simply shifted from FNM/FRE to the stalwart FHA. Just like the problematic past, the FHA became the predominant source for mortgages, rolling out several programs that featured either no down payment or a small 3.5% down payment. Predictably the fast forward has wrought a fresh mountain of FHA delinquencies, up a frightening 26% from last year. A new mortgage crisis is brewing under the idiotic USGovt roof. Again, no solutions are sought. No remedies are pursued. No liquidation is done. The problem persists like a powerful rot, a federal cancer. Expect more massive bailouts and heavy costs to bail out the FHA. The USGovt calls this progress. It will be impossible for the housing market to ever bottom and stabilize until this country recovers economically, and the market liquidates with bank participation. since no solution is pursued, and all difficult decisions are avoided. The leaders are cowards. They realize that steps toward real solutions will collapse their bank power base and expose the standing dead giant banks.

judge allslop said...

Make no mistake, this could be a "Lehman" event times 10. How well do you trust your financial institution?



http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/everything-know-september-12-german-170000728.html

persistancepays said...

once da you ro claps, den da hole whirled will be claps sin. an gonna be perty fo sho.

OMO said...

Man: [The number] of the Beast:


''Then I look at the beast, and I say: ‘Who is the beast?’ I am the beast. I am the beast. I am the biggest beast walking the face of the Earth. I kill everything that moves. As a man, as a human, I take responsibility for that. As a human, it won’t be long, and God will ask you to take responsibility for it. It is your creation. You live in your creation. I never created your world, you created it.''
- Charles Manson
1971

OMO said...

News Reporter prefers gossip over real journalism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLAsdNTH8M


Murder is a reflection of society:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsZYwforjVs

OMO said...


Gossip Reporter: Ms. Good, was the attack on President Ford justified?

Sandra Good: Yes. Any attack on any lie is justified. Any attack on anyone who puts money and lies over people's lives is justified.
___________________________

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

OMO said...

Why DOJ does not prosecute Goldman Sachs et al:

Start listening at 4:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g1fOyF05ig&feature=plcp

judge allslop said...

For a moment It sounded like this was about Billy Alsup.

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/08/30/9852291/EX%20D%208-17-12%20Stoelker%20for%20Cause.pdf

OMO said...

The verification starts out by stating, "I David Merritt". Why is it signed by Salma Merritt?

Also, the pleading says "I, David Merritt, hereby declare that I served this Statement for Disqualification upon James
Stoelker on this 17th Day of August 2012." It doesn't say HOW he served it-f in person or by U.S. mail. Also, if you are a party to the case, you cannot do the serving. An uninterested third party must do the serving.

OMO said...

Good one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQU4FhHHOY&feature=g-all-u


What's with the Ron Paul illuminati hand-sign?

persistancepays said...

"What's with the Ron Paul illuminati hand-sign?



Thats not the 'illuminti hand sign'.


I ought to know.


/s/ I. Lou Minotti
President, The Control Group

judge allslop said...

Sure can tell its an election coming up when the zombies at the US Justice(lol)Dept are accusing some one else of misleading statements (lying), misrepresentation (cheating) and willful misconduct(stealing).

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/bombshell-feds-slam-bp-in-key-court-filing-admit-pollution-from-2010-spill-continues-to-ravage-gulf

judge allslop said...

More action(not)taken by the g-men. Wonder if we squeezed Eric Holder's balls, what he would tell us.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/31/obama-justice-department-immunity-bush-cia-torturer

judge allslop said...

What ever happened to that campaign promise of a more transparent Govt?
oooh say can you see.......

http://rt.com/usa/news/blanketing-spy-program-information-983/

judge allslop said...

Audit of the FR shows good old Ben Shalom to be very generous. To place $16 trillion into perspective, remember that GDP of the United States is only $14.12 trillion. The entire national debt of the United States government spanning its 200+ year history is "only" $14.5 trillion. The budget that is being debated so heavily in Congress and the Senate is "only" $3.5 trillion. Take all of the outrage and debate over the $1.5 trillion deficit into consideration, and swallow this Red pill: There was no debate about whether $16,000,000,000,000 would be given to failing banks and failing corporations around the world.

Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000)
Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000)
Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000)
JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000)
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000)
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)

judge allslop said...

May all the above mentioned live short miserable lives.
Here is some seriously interesting shit.

http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/voyager-1-turns-35-approaches-interstellar-space/2012/09/04/9d8ad4c6-f694-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_gallery.html

persistancepays said...

HERE YA GO!!!

THE ULTIMATE END TIME CLOCK!!

FOR REAL!!

THE ILLUMINATI 'COUNTDOWN CLOCK'

NO BULL! NO SHIT!

/s/ I. Lou Minotti
President, The Control Group


HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tzQsC4e58-E#!

persistancepays said...

any none hoome?


nope...look like only jimmy noone home....ok, cloz the door and cloz da lites....yo otta hear...c ya...

judge allslop said...

The dual passport psycos from a sand lot in the middle east that run your Govt, Justice Dept, financial institutions, Homeland security,
Pentagon and MSM could care less if they kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, its not their country and they are sole beneficiaries when it collapses.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/china-and-russia-are-ruthlessly-cutting-the-legs-out-from-under-the-u-s-dollar

persistancepays said...

like yo sayed...noone home....cloz da lites...chit da doe....

OMO said...

Island of child rape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN2-J9q2Os0

judge allslop said...

To properly hide the fraud the "Bank" must foreclose.They have already received trillions in bailouts from the Federal Government. All of that was predicated upon the homes going into foreclosure. If the loans turn out to be capable of performing, many of those trillion of dollars ( generally reported at $17 trillion, which is more than the total principal loaned out to all borrowers during the meltdown period), the mega banks could be facing trillions of dollars in liability as the demands are properly made for payback.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/08/lily-diaz-wells-fargo_n_1865837.html?view=print&comm_ref=false

Joseph said...

The criminal proceeding against Kurt & Scott lacked lawful foundation to proceed towards a trial and hence the charges are void as the court never had subject matter jurisdiction.

First of all there was never an affidavit sworn by a witness/party that was an injured party. No bank official signed any affidavit under the penalty of perjury. It was only Mathew Ernst that did this.

Mathew Ernst, an employee of the FBI was the only affidavit given to the Grand Jury & Mathew Ernst was never an injured party.

This specific defense or objection to my knowledge was never brought up.

All judgements that lack jurisdiction are void on it's face from the very beginning.

When is Kurt going to go over the head of Judge Alsup and file a writ of mandamus and force Judge Alsup to rule according to law instead of ruling according to his own personal latitude of discretion? Since the Dorean Group took no bribes or kickbacks, the Supreme Court has said there can be no crime, yet the Dorean Group is in prison for crimes when there is no qualifying injured party(s) on the record. The Judge had a legal duty to inspect the record for errors of no substantive foundation of criminal charges, & when jurisdiction never existed the Judge should have recused himself due to his own agenda & prejudices, or dismiss the case due to lack of jurisdiction & no legal foundation.

What I don't get, Kurt's rights were violated by not having a speedy trial. A speedy trial can't be overlooked period FOR ANY REASON, YET THE COURTS MADE THEIR OWN REASONS, so if the Courts were negligent here, and without a doubt they were, this is enough, just there to dismiss the case. The bill of rights give the courts no latitude at all to prolong a speedy trial as the State of Utah did. When the Federal martials took over, they only did after their rights were violated.

Because the Judge has done none of the things required, to defend the guaranteed rights of the accused, the Judge(s) have committed "purjury of their oath of office", and hence have lost their judicial immunity. It would be so easy to ruin their lives and they really should be taught a lesson.

I think redress is filing a Title 42 lawsuit & go after all the corrupt government and court officials & all the actors for the big bucks.

When there is lack of foundation to bring a criminal case, this is violation of due process.

I bet if the warrant for Kurt & Scott's arrest was looked at closely, you will also find that the warrant and even summons to appear was also issued improperly too. I doubt if the warrant had the seal of any Judge who signed off on it. It was probably signed by some peon who worked at the court. It has to be signed by a real Judge to be a proper & legal warrant. This also creates an illegal arrest & more damages.

Bottom line is when the courts or government violate your rights, they also do things unlawfully in order to violate your rights. Find those violations & go after the people individually & sue them criminally & civilly to bankrupt them & get them thrown out of public office for good.

You might even find if you did a search on some of the Judges that oversaw the trial that they don't have oaths of office filed in the public record. If this is true, than any orders issued by them are void, and they in fact impersonated a Judge & any orders they gave are void from the beginning.

Why have these things not been checked into?

Joseph said...
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Joseph said...

Bottom line, the Dorean Group were convicted and abused under "color of law" where alleged crimes that were not crimes were made into crimes & their constitutional rights were violated throughout the entire time. The financial damages don't stop because the abuses haven't stopped & have continued.

That is all that is needed for a civil rights violation, Title 42 lawsuit to be initiated.

Kurt & Scott got massacred because they were never in a Title III Court where they had any constitutional or common law rights. Even the UCC could not even be brought up in the court. Clearly the Judge when he ruled that, lost any perceived jurisdiction and violated their due process rights.

Do you realize because their rights were violated that all the clients constitutional rights to property were violated too? Why not file a complaint where all the clients are Plaintiffs.

Show the stupid government, the courts, and even the FBI, that we aren't victims.

Why not file a Title 42 Civil lawsuit against all of these clowns and list the 5500 clients as the Plaintiff in this matter in a class action lawsuit. Make it the biggest lawsuit ever filed.

Maybe one of the Dorean clients should file suit. I'm not going to wait forever for redress.

One just needs to decide who the Defendants are, maybe

(1) Judge Alsup & all other Judges in this case
(2) US Dept. of Justice & heads
(3) Federal prosecution attorneys
(4) Mathew Ernst
(5) FBI individuals that arrested them.
(6) FBI individuals that sezied Dorean's bank accounts
(6) Police that arrested Kurt & Scott
(7) State of Utah
(8) Prison Wardens

The Dorean Group have talked about redress for a long time now, and the bottom line is nothing of substance has been done to enforce & collect upon any redress rights of all clients yet.

One has a right to be secure in their papers and property (4th) amendment to bill of rights), even though the FBI confiscated their computers and all paperwork. How can the FBI usurp the constitution & do it without a Judges order, but that is exactly what happened. Wow, that's an easy case to win on that damage right there. Each damage is $250,000 times the number of Dorean clients. Punitive damages of 200 times compensatory damages is where everyone will make out quite nicely. I even found a case that was decided that awarded for punitive damages even more than 200 times actual damages.

Then all of the Dorean employees were in fact detained for a half an hour or longer. An unlawful detention where there is no valid warrant signed by a Judge where one's arrest is not based upon a felony or breach of the peace is unlawful on it's face according to the Supreme Court. Again, clear violations that can't be contested by the Defendants.

You know I've been following this for quite some time, was a dorean client, a dorean broker, and I can't even remember all of the damages committed or constitutional right violations against the clients or the company or the Principals. I would need some help there. Every felony or misdeamenor committed by the Defendants will have to be documented.

How about contractual rights we have that were infringed upon?

Joseph said...

The AUTHORITY FOR FINES (DAMAGES) CAUSED BY CRIMES BY
GOVERNMENT OFFICERS. These Damages were determined by GOVERNMENT itself
for the violation listed

Breach Penalty Authority

VIOLATION OF OATH OF OFFICE $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

DENIED PROPER WARRANT(S) $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

DENIED RIGHT OF REASONABLE
DEFENSE ARGUMENTS $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

Denied DEFENSE EVIDENCE (RECORDS) $250,000.00 18 USC 357I

DENIED RIGHT TO TRUTH
IN EVIDENCE $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

SLAVERY (Forced Compliance
to contracts not held) $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

DENIED PROVISIONS IN THE
CONSTITUTION $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

TREASON (combined above actions). $250,000.00 18 USC 3571

GENOCIDE $1,000,000.00 18 USC 1091

MISPRISION OF FELONY $500.00 18 USC 4

CONSPIRACY $10,000.00 18 USC 241

EXTORTION $5,000.00 18 USC 872

MAIL THREATS $5,000.00 18 USC 876

FRAUD $10,000.00 18 USC 1001

FALSIFICATION OF DOCUMENTS $10,000.00 18 USC 1001

PERJURY $2,000.00 18 USC 1621

SUBORNATION OF PERJURY
$2,000.00 18 USC 1622

GRAND THEFT (18 USC 2112) each $250,000.00

To determine multiply no. of counts by damage

18 USC 3571
RACKETEERING (Criminal) $25,000.00 18 USC 1963

RACKETEERING (Civil)

Wages Taken $x3 = 5? 18 USC 1964

(Sustained Damages [total] x 3)

Thirty-seven (37) Constitutional violations from Count 1: = $9,250,000.00 Damages
Dealing with claims of "immunity."
Any claim of " immunity" is a fraud because, if valid, it would prevent removal from office
for crimes against the people, which removal is authorized or even mandated under U.S.
Constitution Article 2, Section IV; as well as 18 USC 241, 42 USC 1983, 1985, 1986, and other state Constitutions.
Precedents of Law established by COURT cases, which are in violation of law,
render violations of law legally unassailable. Such a situation violates several specifically stated intents and purposes of the Constitution set forth in the Preamble; to establish
justice, insure domestic tranquility, and secure the-blessings of liberty. For JUDGES, or anyone in any branch of government.

Joseph said...

WE aren't victims of the Dorean Process.

We are victims of the government abuses, and their intervention of our constitutional & property rights.

The People have all of the rights. Government is here to serve us.

What they have done is abuse us and all the abusors need to pay.

All of those abusers have acted outside their authority and outside any delegation of duties they were given.

That's called "perjury of oath of office".

Joseph said...

When government official swear to protect our constitutional rights under oath, & even swear to God, and then go another route & violate the people's rights, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? THEY HAVE LIED UNDER OATH WHICH IS PERJURY and have violated & disgraced their office.

And if we do nothing to get redress, & make it stick, or take a path which is not effective, which is what's happened to date, irregardless of the greatest of intentions, and best efforts, and saying it's still all OK and good....then it's not OK & good yet, and justice has not been served irregardless on how it is sugared and fed to us.

Don't you like how the Dept. of Justice fed the clients. They say if they collect any monies they will divi them out. Has that happened? They seized all of the money from the Dorean Group, 4 Million plus & kept all of it, so the clients could not have been the victims of the Dorean Group as the liars have suggested. Come to think of it, that's another damage. Those are actual damages. It's called "Grand Theft" & embezzlement.

Joseph said...

Video about a trillion dollar lawsuit, and an offer to settle:

http://www.livingfreeandclear.com/major-news-banks-are-bring-arrested/

Joseph said...

1 trillion dollar lawsuit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnaibPcUsY

Joseph said...

Black's Law Dictionary (5th Edition)
Due process of law (p. 2 of 2)
Daniel Webster defined this phrase to mean a law which hears before it condemns, which
proceeds on inquiry and renders judgment only after trial. Wichita Council No. 120 of Security
Ben. Ass'n v. Security Ben. Assn., 138 Kan. 841 , 28 P.2d 976, 980; J. B. Barnes Drilling Co. v.
Phillips, 166 Okl. 1 54, 26 P.2d 766. This constitutional guaranty demands only that law shall not
be unreasonable, arbitrary, or capricious, and that means selected shall have real and substantial
relation to object. Nebbia v. People of State of New York, N. Y., 29 1 U.S. 502, 54 S.Ct. 505, 78
L.Ed. 940; North American Co. v. Securities & Exchange Commission, C.C.A.2, 133 F.2d 148,154.

OMO said...


Policeman drags 77 year old woman from car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOoDhka67sU

OMO said...
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persistancepays said...



"Why have these things not been checked into?



coss dis bog is now being writ by da govt....dats why....da, da, da, da, dats all fulks.....

persistancepays said...

NESARA DEBT FORGIVENESS HAS STARTED - MORTGAGES BEING PAIDED OFF

This is an update to the following posting.

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/09/foreclosure-good-news-debt-forgiveness.html

Info
The initial information was provided in a dinar chat room. A lady in Foreclosure received a letter from her lender via Fed Ex stating her mortgage was paid off by the GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS. She was informed that she could NOT distribute it to others. Since that time -----

I have also received calls from others receiving the same type of notice from their lenders.

Banks involved so far are Bank Of America and Chase Bank. They are all sending Fed Ex notifications.

The letter clearly states that the mortgage was paided off in full. No Federal Repayment program or any bank low interest offer.

THIS IS DEBT FORGIVENESS -- AS STATED IN NESARA!

Joseph said...

Why wait for Nesara?

You can pay off your debt now with an EFT.

judge allslop said...

I would love to do a "loan" origination audit on this deal.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/mortgage-firm-ocwen-buys-chairmans-house-for-2-mil/nR96m/

judge allslop said...

Happy Constitution day in America.
Federal politicians, who are taking billions upon billions of dollars from the American people to carry out programs not authorized by the Constitution, are unconstitutionally mandating that schools unconstitutionally funded by the unconstitutional department of education will teach your kids about constitutional limits on federal power.

judge allslop said...

What happened to Kurt and Scott they plan for the rest of us, less the so called trial.

http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-hedges-appeal-obama-339

OMO said...

Illuminati/ Scientologist Tom Cruise

http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/celebrity-scientologists-1347656724-slideshow/tom-cruise-photo-1347656630.html


judge allslop said...

There should be no doubt about the state of affairs in this once proud and law abiding and law loving country. What makes this so scary other than obvious is how hard this administration fought for this tyranny.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-totalitarian-state-wins-after-all-obama-reinstates-ndaa-military-detention-provision

persistancepays said...

what is a 'sintologist' ??


n One who is certifed to analise and judge sin.

sintology- the study of sin (yours); one who makes a practice of judging others sin; universally found in all churches today, those who are qualifed to judge others sin exluding their own, e.g., church congregants, pastors, elders, dickens, sexteats, etc.


persistancepays said...

"none who is certifed to analise and judge sin.



LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOLLOL!!!

persistancepays said...

interesting as most "Cursetians" are sintologists.

Joseph said...

Read this statement and tell me if there are multiple ways to interpret. After reading it several times, I believe there is only one way to interpret it & that the EFT was discharged because Chase Bank talks about "past tense", and then they talk about "future tense". They can't be just talking about "future tense or future events" because of the way the verbs are used. Do you disagree?

"To the extent your original obligation was discharged,(PAST TENSE IT HAPPENED, A FACT, NOTICE THE WORD, "WAS".

"To the extend your obligation was discharged, (now a fact),

or is subject to an automatic stay of bankruptcy under Title 11 of the U.S. Code, (FUTURE EVENT UNDETERMINED)
this notice is for compliance and/or informational purposes only and does not constitute an attempt to collect a debt or to impose personal liability for such obligation."

Note: The letter is a present event, and can be talked about in factual terms too. Did the bank list what I owed? Yes. Did the Bank tell me where to send payment to? Yes.
Did the bank say what my present day loan status was and that I was in default? Yes.
Did the letter say I was subject to foreclosure? Yes. Did the letter say that late payments were being reported to the credit bureau and my not paying is damaging my credit standing? Yes. Did they reinforce their position that I still owed the money even though I sent them an EFT? Yes. Did they suggest I seek homeowners assistance if I was having difficulties in paying them? Yes. Did they ask for my attorney's name if I had one? Yes. Did they suggest I get an attorney? Yes. Did the bank say they are not waiving any of their rights or remedies and are reserving them? Yes. Did the bank say that I'm not released from the contractual obligations through my correspondence which correspondence included issuing an EFT? Yes. Did Chase suggest that I should payoff this debt again? Yes. Did Chase demand that payment funds must be certified or wire funds? yes. Did Chase Bank say that they still had an legally enforceable obligation with me? Yes. Did chase Bank contradict themselves & suggest that they had no recourse to foreclose in another sentence because the letter suggested no "personal liability" on the debt from this letter? yes.

Joseph said...

So the real question is, how can they say all of these things, which are what a collection agencies or attorney might say to collect on a debt, and say they aren't collecting on a debt with such language and specific information? Is that the same as saying, "hey I'm not collecting on a debt, but you know what, if you don't pay it, I'm going to foreclose on your house., but by the way, the purpose of this call is for informational purposes only", would you laugh at the collection agency? Yes. How can the letter be for "informational purposes only", when they have provided me no information I didn't already know or have? If the letter was for "informational purposes only", why would they say they knew my reaction to the information before I received the information? "While we regret that you may remain dissatisfied, Chase considers this matter closed." How can information ever be "closed"? Isn't that the purpose of information to be "news" or an ongoing discussion of things to discover, debate, or even challenge information with a new perspective? It's pretty obvious that the letter is not "for informational purposes only", but for the purpose of supporting their own propaganda of lies that I still owe money.

It's absolute nonsense for them to suggest they aren't collecting on a debt when all of this rhetoric comes from their legal department who writes these "form letters" that are always unsigned because no one wants to take personal responsibility for all the deception and lies and violation of laws contained in them. Then to add an insulting touch to it, to see how stupid you are, they call the letter for "informational purposes" only", as if they think they are inspiring me to some new epiffany I didn't have before.

The sad truth is that these banks aren't even good liars, and I only tell you that "for informational purposes" ONLY, not to be construed as slander, libel, or any characterization whatsoever, as the opinions expressed here are from the opinions of others and not to be construed as any JUDGMENTS OR FACTS WHATSOEVER BECAUSE BLACK CAN BE WHITE, AND WHITE CAN BE BLACK, IT'S ALL A MATTER OF INFORMATIONAL PERSPECTIVE SO THIS MATTER IS CLOSED AND I KNOW YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THIS ANSWER. LOL

Joseph said...

When I said "the EFT was discharged", I meant to say, the EFT discharged the debt.

Joseph said...

Here is what Bank of America said to another borrower who issued an EFT:

"This statement is being furnished for information purpose only and should not be construed to collect against your personally. While your obligation with Bank of America MAY BE DISCHARGED BY OPERATION OF LAW, Bank of America have retained the ability to enforce it's rights against the property securing this loan, SHOULD THERE BE A DEFAULT."

Note: Property owner has already been behind in payments for almost 2 years when the letter was issued. Also notice, Bank of America never sent a letter before like this before the EFT was issued.

So it's the bank's position, you pay off the note, BUT THEY ARE STILL GOING TO FORECLOSE ON YOU. Interestingly enough, that's not according to "Operation of Law".

I love that expression. The banks know what "operation of law" is, but they ignore it, when it's not in their favor.

Joseph said...

.Dear Sir:

I wanted to respond to your letter dated August 2, 2012. Chase said: “In regards to your EFT transfer Chase has not deposited those funds. If you would like to payoff this debt, please follow the instructions below. Payoff funds should be remitted via wire transfer to……..”
First of all, since you claim that you have not deposited these funds from the EFT, or have gotten credit for the EFT, which I know to be a lie, I am now making a demand from you to immediately return the original untouiched EFT instrument back to me. Your willful refusal to send back the original instrument immediately back to me, will be a tacit agreement by inaction and default on your part that you not only put the EFT through, and got paid in full, but have committed fraud by deception in an attempt to steal my property, and everything alleged against Chase Bank in this letter by me is true and factual.

The law mandates to banks that they have time limits to put legal instruments through the Federal Reserve Bank system, and since my EFT was “instructions for a demand payment order” you had until the next business day to put the instrument through after you received it. You also had until the next business day to dishonor this instrument which you didn’t do, by sending back the original instrument via certified mail, return receipt requested back to me to prove service and cite reasons why the instrument was defective and allow me the opportunity to cure any defects. Since no defects were listed on a timely basis, by silence you have agreed that the instrument was good. You did not follow the law. Because you didn’t prove that the EFT was deficient in any way, by your silence you have accepted the instrument. Acceptance of the instrument is “finality of payment in full”, “discharge”, “set off”, or “satisfaction” of the note. Also the Mortgage/Trust Deed documents specifically state that an EFT is an accepted form of payment to satisfy the debt You are legally obligated to send me a reconveyance of my property, releasing the mortgage lien, and send back the original promissory note indicating “paid in full”, and all credit bureau reports reporting properly so the account reads a positive status saying: Paid as agreed”, “never late”, and “paid in full”. To the contrary you have violated the Fair Credit Reporting Act by reporting this account as a negative status at all three credit bureaus after receiving full payment, which constitutes false credit reporting and mail and wire fraud which are felonies. Instead of true reporting, you are trying to “double dip” and make me pay the debt again, which is a forced contract which is involuntary slavery and constitutes a $250,000 penalty since you are violating my civil rights. I intend to file a Title 42 Civil rights action against your bank, and name top executives as additional Defendants due to all this fraud your bank is committing.

Mr. Geva, agrees with all of my charges against your bank in not following the UCC laws: Professor Benjamin Geva, professor at Harvard Law, writes on the subject of “electronic funds transfers” here:
http://www.cklawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/vol83no2/Geva.pdf Page 660-661 reads:
“Discharge under English common law views the credit transfer as designed “to transfer an
amount standing to the credit of [the originator] . . . to the credit of [the beneficiary’s] account.”
Royal Prods. v. Midland Bank, (1981) 2 Lloyd’s Rep. 194, 198 (Q.B.D.).
Such a transfer is carried out with the view of conferring on the beneficiary “the unconditional
right to the immediate use of the funds transferred.” The Brimnes,Tenax Steamship Co. Ltd. v. The Brimnes (Owners), (1973) 1 All E.R. 769, 782 (Q.B.D.).

Joseph said...

The transfer constitutes payment made to the beneficiary at the beneficiary’s bank in the
same way as “handing coins or banknotes” to the beneficiary’s bank for the beneficiary would
constitute payment to the beneficiary. Mardorf Peach & Co. v. Attica Sea Carriers Corp. of Liberia (The Laconia), (1976) 2 All E.R. 249, 257 (appeal taken from Q.B.D.), rev’d, (1977) 1 All E.R. 545 (H.L.) explaining that nowdays financial obligations are not normally discharged by handling over coins or bank notes.

It is thus the “unfettered and unrestricted”1 right to the use of the funds, effectively arising upon
what is referred to in this article as payment finality, that discharge the debt paid by credit
transfer as the equivalent of the deposit of cash to the account. 1 The expression is taken from A/S Awilco v. Fulvia S.P.A. di Navigazione (The Chikuma) (1981) 1 Lloyd’s Rep. 371, 375 (H.L.). .

In other words, “The EFT (instructions for a reverse bank wire) I sent, has the same effect as a cashier’s check or cash out of my pocket paid to Chase Bank.

You are either obligated to cite the defects in the instrument by immediately sending it back within the next business day (which you haven’t done), or you are obligated to put the instrument through the system (which you have done). You don’t have the right to keep the instrument, lie to me, and expect me to pay again through a regular wire transfer. My reverse bank wire (EFT) was legally sufficient.

Your statement: “to the extend your original obligation was discharged, or is subject to an automatic stay of bankruptcy under Title 11 of the United States Code, this notice is for compliance and/or informational purposes only, and does not constitute an attempt to collect a debt or to impose personal liability for such obligation.” Yet in another part you say: “If you fail to make the regular monthly payment as to uphold the terms of the mortgage, we will proceed with all appropriate actions, which may include starting the foreclosure process on the home.”

Yes, I know the debt was discharged, but you are only suggesting it could have been, yet in another part of the letter, you are telling me to remit payment to a specific place by bank wire. That in effect is an attempt to collect on a debt that was already paid off, so you lied again and your own letter is proof that you violated the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act. 1692 e. False or misleading representations: A debt collector may not use any false, deceptive, or misleading representation, or means in connection with the collection of any debt. The following conduct is a violation of this section:

2) The false representation of
A) the character, amount, or legal status of any debt,
B) any services rendered or compensation which may be lawfully received by any debt collector for the collection of a debt.

5) The threat to take any action that cannot be taken or that is not intended to be taken.

You can’t foreclose on me because this debt is paid off, and I will prove it in Federal Court.

Sincerely,

Joseph said...

From a Fred Guiterez Seminar, who is an expert on constitutional law and electronic funds transfer instru-ments here: http://midnightthinktank.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Garys_Notes.pdf

beginning at page 4: “Financial Debt has been lawfully discharged in our country through the

process known as Bankruptcy. You basically have to get permission from the court

(administrative law) known as (below the line), hire an attorney, have a judge sign an order,

and your debt is lawfully discharged. You can also do this yourself (above the line), through a

process known as EFT, or Electronic Funds Transfer. HJR-192 talks about discharging debt and

is the Bankruptcy of the United States, Public Law 4848-112. When a “natural person” is in

Bankruptcy they are NOT allowed to create any more debt pursuant to law. This also applies to

a COUNTRY. Because we are STILL in Bankruptcy, all our people are not allowed to create any

more debt. For example when you have an “open” checking account and you write a check what

you don’t know is that there is a SECRET side of the checking account that the bank HAS to

use to turn that debt that you created aminus (-) into a ZERO every night. How they do this is

with a matching deposit of “digits” from the Federal Reserve. This is a fact. All banks must

ZERO out ALL their accounts each night before the next business day. People ask through

what authority can you use an EFT to set off debt? Well ask yourself this question: Through

what authority does the bank ZERO out their accounts each night? PUBLIC LAW 7310

EFT’s—What Are They***********Electronic Funds Transfer*************EFT=Electronic Funds

Transfer-Look at your Mortgage/Trust Deed documents as it will specifically state that this is an

accepted form of payment to satisfy the debt. REMEMBER EFT’s are never given provisional

credit-they are FINAL!!! They are governed by 4A of the UCC. If they accept your EFT or

acknowledge the payment order, or credit the account, or if you can prove they received funds,

or if they (the bank) opens their next day of business with other EFT wire transaction business,

your EFT instrument is NOT reversible by the bank and is considered accepted and FINAL!!!

This is enforceable in court. How does it work? How does the banking work? They do not

want this exposed. An EFT has the same effect as a cashier’s check or cash out of

your pocket. Believe in EFT’s as they are real.”

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