Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

4,870 comments:

«Oldest   ‹Older   1601 – 1800 of 4870   Newer›   Newest»
mogel007 said...

PENALTIES


12 U.S. Code § 95 - Emergency limitations and restrictions on business of members of Federal Reserve System; designation of legal holiday for national banking associations; exceptions; “State” defined

(a) In order to provide for the safer and more effective operation of the National Banking System and the Federal Reserve System, to preserve for the people the full benefits of the currency provided for by the Congress through the National Banking System and the Federal Reserve System, and to relieve interstate commerce of the burdens and obstructions resulting from the receipt on an unsound or unsafe basis of deposits subject to withdrawal by check, during such emergency period as the President of the United States by proclamation may prescribe, no member bank of the Federal Reserve System shall transact any banking business except to such extent and subject to such regulations, limitations and restrictions as may be prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury, with the approval of the President. Any individual, partnership, corporation, or association, or any director, officer or employee thereof, violating any of the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $10,000 or, if a natural person, may, in addition to such fine, be imprisoned for a term not exceeding ten years. Each day that any such violation continues shall be deemed a separate offense.

mogel007 said...

This is what Judge Alsup overlooked:

"no person shall be held liable in any court for or in respect to anything done or omitted in good faith in connection with the administration of, or in pursuance of and in reliance on, this section,"

mogel007 said...

Persistant Pays said:

When are the settlements coming?

Are you living in a sandbox? You need to read the news, they are already happening.

A lady wins 6 million against US Bank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43R-5UzrS30

Lynn Symoniak won multi millions too against her bank.

Most of these settlements it seems that they get a gag order against them, but they are talking about them on the internet before the gag orders.

The Dorean Group already set up the base work for the client to
take it to the next step & get their settlements.

Get off your asses & do something. Assert your rights. Learn the law and don't wait for Kurt & Scott to get out of prison for them to do all the work. You have a mind, use it.

persistancepays said...

Are you living in a sandbox? You need to read the news, they are already happening.

A lady wins 6 million against US Bank:


yes, and i won the littery toot!


and she will pass go an colleck her 6 millon doolas the same time as the stale mints pays out....in 2025.....

persistancepays said...

from clip high webblogs:


"Given this brief sketch of the myriad of problems that your body faces during these last few years of the Kali yuga (until 2025 i hear), it makes sense to take the time to..."



funy!! they dat nimbar again, 2025. da same yer dat the stale mints gonna payup... weeeel dawwwgy!! as jet clampit say!!!

persistancepays said...

but way!!! ho ole wil yo be by den??

too ole to joy da money? :-(

well, like zegler and evans sayed in they song... "in da yer 2025, if man is still alife, if wimon can surfife, they may try....

mogel007 said...

Happy Thanksgiving! Kurt's quote which is quite touching which shows his gratitude and his insight even being in prison going on 9 years come February 2015: "If you walk and talk with Him He will confirm my witness of His victory is true. History will catch up soon enough. Until then He gives patience, peace, and love to overwhelm and subdue my fears."

persistancepays said...

is any nun ho??

noone home....go home....

persistancepays said...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

mogel007 said...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wells-fargo-jpmorgan-settle-mortgage-211551062.html

The banks can commit mail fraud by receiving kickbacks and bribes and even get caught, but no one goes to prison over it.

If you are someone like Kurt & Scott you get mail fraud & wire fraud & bank fraud alleged, and these charges require kickbacks & bribes to be a key element of these charges to be convicted, but they got convicted anyway.

Why doesn't the press talk about that? Kurt & Scott for the most part have been forgotten by the press. It was as if them going to jail was the end of the story.

persistancepays said...

it bout time sumbawry say suntin

on da matta af han

Dr. Caligari said...

New California Court of Appeal decision on the validity of a foreclosure based on "robosigning": http://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/A139055.PDF

mogel007 said...

That's a horrible precedence to say that despite the fraud of robo-signing the alleged lender can still foreclose.

That just shows how corrupt the California courts really are.

mogel007 said...

Dr. Caligari:

After reading the case, this case you cited is not about robo-signing.
You've got to get off the drugs you are taking.

persistancepays said...

ho dr. caligoola???

Dr. Caligari said...

Another California decision: "There are no free houses."
http://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B255958.PDF

persistancepays said...

maybe he should have followed that other guys way to get of it, ie, the

SHOW ME THE LOAN process whree one attempts to show that no loan occurred? but merely a transfer of trustee?

OMO said...

"There are no free houses."


Yep, if the bank can't collect there's always the property taxman, the garbage collector and the electric and/or the gas bill collector.

OMO said...

I knew someone who was in default of his mortgage. He was in default of the property tax too. For 3 or 4 years the bank was picking up the tab on the property tax. The bank didn't want to lose the house to the county so they kept paying it. So even if the so-called homeowner went to court to argue the mortgage, the property tax was at issue also. Most people who struggle to pay their mortgage cannot afford the property tax either.

Dr. Caligari said...

maybe he should have followed that other guys way to get of it, ie, the
SHOW ME THE LOAN process whree one attempts to show that no loan occurred? but merely a transfer of trustee?


Is there a reported court case where that process worked?

persistancepays said...

1860: Thanks to the efforts of the Bar Associations a member of the Bar, Abraham Lincoln, is elected to serve as President. Note that he is ineligible serve as President of the united States of America, by the Titles of Nobility Amendment to the actual Constitution— but is eligible to serve as President of the United States (Commercial Company).This is the same situation we have with Barack Obama who is ineligible to serve as President of the United States of America, but is able to serve as President of the United States (Incorporated).

1861: The Civil War begins. Congress adjourns for lack of quorum and without a date to reconvene. Lincoln organizes a Delaware Corporation and the remaining members of Congress begin functioning as a Board of Directors.
1862: The “Corporate Congress”—a body of men no different than the Board of Directors of IBM, change the meaning of a single word —only and explicitly for use within their corporation. That word is “person”. From then on the word “person” is deemed to mean “corporation” for federal government purposes. (37th “Congress”– Second Session, Chapter 49, Section 68.)
1863: Lincoln signs the Lieber Code as Commander in Chief and puts the Union Army, the Grand Army of the Republic, in charge of the nation’s future and money supply. A day later, he bankrupts the original United States (Commercial Company).
1865: Lee’s Army surrenders to Grant and a general armistice is declared. The Southern States are in ruins and under military occupation by the Union. The original Northern States are bankrupt. Foreign banks are in control of the new “United States of America, Inc.” and the Union Army reigns supreme. Over the next two years President Andrew Johnson will three times publically declare peace on the land jurisdiction of the Continental United States, but peace is never declared in the international Jurisdiction of the Sea controlled by the Federal United States under the trusteeship of the British Monarch.

persistancepays said...

1868: The Corporate Congress writes itself a new Corporate Constitution, called “the Constitution of the United States of America” and palms off this look-alike, sound-alike private corporate document “as if” it were the actual Constitution. This is fraud on many levels. The Constitution of the United States of America purposefully sought to confuse and delude people into thinking it was the actual Equity Contract obligating the States to receive services and subrogate their international jurisdiction to the federal government.
1871: The Corporate Congress begins to set up shop for itself by creating a separate government for the District of Columbia. The initial effort fails but seven years later the Washington DC Municipality is created as an independent international city state run as a plenary oligarchy by the members of “Congress”. Also in 1871, the Corporate Congress claimed to own all United States corporations— 41st “Congress”– Third Session, Chapters 62, 63, 64, and 65.
1874-1885: All the actual States on the land are reorganized and at the same time completely new “Federal States” are created and new “State Constitutions” are written for them. The original States on the land are renamed in this process. The original State of Ohio operating the land jurisdiction became the Ohio State, while the usurping “Federal State”— merely a corporate franchise of the United States of America, Inc. operating in the international Jurisdiction of the Sea—took over the name “State of Ohio”.
1900-1904: Still lusting after more power for itself, the Corporate Congress set up a second shop for itself and obtained permission to do it from the Supreme Court in a series of cases known as The Insular Tariff Cases. As with setting up the Washington DC Municipality as a foreign city-state on our shores and running it as their own little oligarchy, the “Congress” now took the “federal territories and possessions” and made a new “union” of “American states”- —Puerto Rico, Guam, et alia—and began calling it “the United States of America (Minor)”. They just forgot to add the (Minor) part of the name from then on, and let people assume that all the repugnant laws they passed governing this “Constitutional Democracy” also applied to the Continental United States.

1912-1913: A private association of European and American banks calling themselves “The Federal Reserve” bought the governmental services corporation known as “The UnitedStates of America, Inc.” and its “State” franchises as a business venture, and began operating such familiar agencies as The United States Department of Agriculture and The United States Department of Transportation as private, for-profit businesses—without telling anyone. They exercised the “government powers” they didn’t really possess in a vast fraud scheme in collusion with members of “Congress” to institute a fiat monetary system and misused their position of trust to put competitors out of business, set up monopolies, rig commodity markets, and commit other acts of blatant self-interested criminality and fraud.

1917: Engaging in a war for profit, Congress and their Banker Bosses passed the War Powers Act and the Trading With the Enemy Act, and numerous other illegal and repugnant“Acts” pertaining only to the Federal United States and the international Jurisdiction of the Sea, but presented them to the public as if this claptrap pertained to the actual States and People on the land of the Continental United States. Deceived by this venal and purposeful fraud, millions of Americans complied with what they believed to be the “Law” passed by a legitimate Congress acting as deputies of the States and the People.

persistancepays said...

*******1865: Lee’s Army surrenders to Grant and a general armistice is declared. The Southern States are in ruins and under military occupation by the Union. The original Northern States are bankrupt. Foreign banks are in control of the new “United States of America, Inc.” and the Union Army reigns supreme. Over the next two years President Andrew Johnson will three times publically declare peace on the land jurisdiction of the Continental United States, but peace is never declared in the international Jurisdiction of the Sea controlled by the Federal United States under the trusteeship of the British Monarch.

persistancepays said...

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/04/judge-blows-the-lid-off-the-great-fraud-3132632.html?currentSplittedPage=0

OMO said...




Mullins:

"In the Oxford English Dictionary, we find the law merchant defined under “1856 H. Broome. Common Law. Lord Campbell remarks that the general lien of bankers is part of the law merchant. (lex mercantoria)”

Now this seems innocuous enough. A banker may be justified in obtaining a lien to protect his loan, or his interest. In practice, however, this means that the ability of the central bank to issue and create money creates a maelstrom, which inevitably draws all property and all persons into its suction; it creates a lien on everything within the state. It is now widely believed that our central bank, the Federal Reserve System, holds at the present time a lien on all property in the United States. This means that there really is no personal property, and that therefore we have arrived at the Communist ideal, in which private individuals own nothing."

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
persistancepays said...

The Real Criminals
1. Look up the Public Laws governing Citizen’s Arrest in your state. Get ready to use them.
2. Now, let’s pretend we set up a system of “naming conventions” such that the following rules apply:


john –quincy: adams = a living American endowed with all his natural rights
John Quincy Adams = a foreign situs trust used in commercial shipping
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS = a foreign estate trust
John Q. Adams = a public transmitting utility company
John q. Adams = a public foundation
JOHN Q. Adams = a cooperative
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS = a boat or ship used in public commerce
JOHN QUINCY Adams = a commonwealth trust
J. QUINCY Adams = a slave owned by Exxon Corporation
J.Q. Adams = a foreign pauper forbidden to own land
Adams, John Q. = a taxpayer
ADAMS, JOHN Q. = a soldier
adams, john q. = a slave
There are dozens of different potential meanings that can be arbitrarily assigned to anyone’s name and used to “represent” radically different entities. In a verbal conversation we can talk all day long about someone or something named “John Quincy Adams” and which john quincy adams or what kind of JOHN QUINCY ADAMS will never be known, except from the context of the conversation — but on paper the use of such a system instantly defines what or whom is being talked about — if you know the system.
This is what the lawyers, bankers, and politicians have used to enslave you. It is a crime known as “personage”. By arbitrarily creating an Estate trust named after you and claiming to own this thing they created, they have falsely claimed to own you and your assets and to literally buy and sell “you” on stock exchanges, ship “you” out of ports, and tax “you” for doing things you’ve never done. After all, there is no law against enslaving an ESTATE trust, is there? Or arresting a slave? Or charging a tax on importing revenue to Puerto Rico?
Hand in hand with personage comes “barratry” — the crime of knowingly bringing false claims into court. So what happens every day all across America, when charges are brought against the ESTATES of “dead men” who are standing right in front of the judge and jury? Barratry — a crime that is appropriately named after the “Bar Association”.

persistancepays said...

look like a butch of STRAWMINS

mogel007 said...

The CA decision that Dr. Carligari
cited is just another bad CA court precedence. California obviously doesn't want to follow New York trust law:

http://butlerlibertylaw.com/final-word-foreclosure-fraud/

There is no free house? Obviously the CA Judge has missed cases where that has exactly happened.

mogel007 said...

This is why the California Judge in the recent foreclose case in CA is a liar when he said, "there are no free houses". Really? Liars like this Judge that makes an outrageous statement like this which is not founded in reality and current events have no credibility and hence his decision has no credibility either. Liars eventually get overturned anyway.

In this New Jersey case below, a man was able to nullify the mortgage agreement and get his home free & clear because the bank didn’t file a claim within the statute of limitations period of time as New Jersey is a judicial State & the bank claim must be filed within 6 years in the courts or the debt collector is forever barred from doing so:


http://tinyurl.com/pktbm9z

Bank cannot foreclose as the statute of limitations are past:

http://tinyurl.com/pv28m6g

mogel007 said...

In the Detsche Bank foreclosure, the owner need only file for a quiet title action against the debt collector posing as a creditor and silence his claim & get it wiped off, who is barred from foreclosing anyway on the borrower and bingo, a free & clear house. People have been known to get a free & clear house through a quiet title action. Is the California Judge really unaware of that? He must be as he said, "no free houses". That's an absolute statement and he's absolutely incorrect.

mogel007 said...

2.9 Million and a free house:


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/business/01gret.html?_r=0

I guess the Judge in CA doesn't read the news. He's too busy lying.

mogel007 said...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-02/ny-judge-slams-wells-fargo-forging-documents-and-why-nothing-will-change


The couple and their 12-year-old daughter got their home back, along with a total of $3.25 million in damages.

persistancepays said...

wover hoppens to dr. ira gilac?? whre he go at????

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
OMO said...

2.9 Million and a free house:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/business/01gret.html?_r=0

I guess the Judge in CA doesn't read the news. He's too busy lying.
_____________

Not a free house because of FRN award. The award will help pay the property tax for many years to come.

OMO said...

The people who won those awards should take the money and build something off grid. No mortgage and no property taxes. Now that's freedom.

mogel007 said...

What they should do is figure out how not to "register" their home, or get it off the tax rolls & unregister it. Some have figured out how to do that.

Some even claim to have even done the paperwork properly to claim their Strawman as their own fictitious corporation. Once that is done you have access to those "private funds" worth a billion or more for many people.

I'm told that a child born today would start off with 1.5 Million in that private fund due to the birth certificate being monetized and traded. That fund grows over time as you age.

Now that's financial freedom being able to tap into that so you have total control over that fund.

If these funds are real, then obviously this economic downturn and eventual financial armageddon is just a fiction too.

From what I've been told, you don't own your Strawman name, it's a product of the State and it's their creation, as you have not filed a D/B/A as the fiction being yours. With no public record to say so, the State assumes you don't own it and the IRS agrees.

mogel007 said...

The CA judge in referring to a "free house" was referring to the idea that no one can get out of their note obligation, thus nullifying the deed of trust/mortgage, and not referring to any real estate tax bill.

The State is always going to figure out ways to tax your wealth and income. If you're smart enough you will figure out legal ways to avoid that trap.

mogel007 said...

I received this in an email and thought others may find it helpful:

HOFJ: CA AG Amicus Brief for Homeowners
What a helpful document:

http://hofj.org/virtualoffice_files/2015-0417CA-AG-AmicusBrief.pdf

The CA Attorney General and her staff has written a brief supporting homeowners that summarizes CA homeowner protection codes, reviews 38 wrongful foreclosure cases with legal opinions about the case rulings, and ends with this summary: "The Court should hold that homeowners may bring a wrongful foreclosure action on the basis that the party foreclosing on them lacks the power to foreclose because they do not own the debt, either due to an allegedly void assignment or for any other legally cognizable reason."

In the brief, California Civil Code list (item 1.B on p11) addresses a range of misconduct in the mortgage industry:
1. restriction on "dual-tracking" (§ 2923.6)
2. requiring a single point of contact for homeowners (§ 2923.7)
3. requirement of "competent and reliable evidence" - anti-robosigning protection (§ 2924.17)
4. private right of action to enforce protections (§ 2924.12)

New CA Civil Code sections are listed on p12:
1. homeowners can request a copy of the original promissory note and applicable assignments (§ 2923.55(b))
2. foreclosing party must be the "holder of the beneficial interest" in the debt (§ 2924(a)(6))

Item II.B on p16: "A defect in the chain of title that renders a debt assignment void is one way in which a foreclosing party may lack the lawful authority to foreclose."

To me, this brief seems to be very strong legal support for winning in court that a robo-signed Assignment is void and cannot be used to prove debt ownership, which debt ownership must be proven to legally foreclose.

Here is work done to date on robosigned documents: http://hofj.org/default.asp.pg-Forgery

And it seems to me that this Amicus Brief would be extremely helpful in a TILA Rescission lender compliance lawsuit, particularly a quiet title action where debt ownership must be proven by the lender for the debt to remain as a lien on the property: http://hofj.org/default.asp.pg-Rescission.

Dr. Caligari said...

California obviously doesn't want to follow New York trust law

We have 50 states and they each have their laws. People facing foreclosure have done much better in the courts of some states than others. It's important to know what the law is in your state.

persistancepays said...

just incase anynun still listing.....



Fri May 29, 2015 at 11:26 AM PDT


Judge disqualifies all 250 prosecutors in Orange County, CA because of widespread corruption

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/29/1388819/-Judge-disqualifies-all-250-prosecutors-in-Orange-County-CA-because-of-widespread-corruption?detail=facebook_sf#

persistancepays said...

???why even blogger keppin dis bog when noone is boggin any mow???

hugh noone

mogel007 said...

Persistancepays:

There were two people keeping this blog going, and one of them lost interest in it, and lost the vision, however, Kurt is in a secret prison in Marion, Illinois where the prison doesn't want the public to know what is going on there and Kurt has no way to communicate anyway. As of June 1, 2015, he can't receive letters, nor can he send them out.
Kurt has no way to communicate to the outside world as his communications have been completely stopped for no just cause, and doesn't even have the privilege of family visiting him, and this violates the constitution as this action constitutes a cruel and unusual punishment. So it's through no fault of his own that the blog communications have stopped. Also he is in a prison that is exclusively for "terrorists" and in fact is being treated as a terrorist for no cause as he has never committed any violent acts against anyone. Kurt's due process rights have been greatly infringed upon, but don't get discouraged there are things in the works going on right now that are very encouraging. Also Kurt is in high spirits and has been very busy there in looking after the best interests of all clients and he's real close in proving everything he's said. That's all I'll say right now. Don't ever give up the faith, or give up hope, as hope is the only thing that is stronger than fear, as all promises given will be fulfilled. Had Kurt have been given more support by others over the years, he would have been out of prison long before now. It's hard to believe it's been almost 10 years now since he's been incarcerated, since 2005.

persistancepays said...

yes says: dun gift up hop....sum nun i no 2 owed a hourse hisslef and was put in it the "Duran goop" truss to get the mortage forgifted. after 10 years the fake lender sole the horse to sum nun. this none was fixtin up the hause when sudden of all, it burn down last moth. he put in a deedbt with da city fo the hose. af far as the city is concern, ho own da hose, he do. they be finding him $100 a day for vilotions on the hose becase it is now not secrewed from enty. so now, he can even not go back to claim the hose as the finds from the city will jus fall on him to pay. so now he out da hose, out da money, just plane out flyin aways....on hosed airlanes... nuttin. jimmy noone can help yo. ya, noone can help yo????

persistancepays said...

da noo finical sytem cumming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A93mLlSWuw

OMO said...




da noo finical sytem cumming:


Oh good no more taxes on my labor, no more Social Security numbers. Time to celebrate! Did they say anywhere in the video what the debt was being paid off with?

The White Knights are back!

persistancepays said...

da poop haft the pow to fogift all deaths if he want, an he want to. the depts haft all redy bin paid fo, so dun need nuttin to pay fo it. just like icelan did a foo yers ago, fogift all depts.

OMO said...

No such thing as financial equality.

"If everyone had 5 billions dollars then what would 5 billion dollars be worth? The answer: Absolutely nothing. Money is only given it's value based on inequality. If everyone was financially equal there would be no value in money." To hear this paraphrased quote start listening at 3:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti_AdGP7DwQ

OMO said...

So if everyone is given an equal amount of money, it wouldn't be worth anything because money's value is based on inequality not on equality.

Dr. Caligari said...

Kurt is in a secret prison in Marion, Illinois where the prison doesn't want the public to know what is going on there and Kurt has no way to communicate anyway. As of June 1, 2015, he can't receive letters, nor can he send them out.
Kurt has no way to communicate to the outside world as his communications have been completely stopped for no just cause, and doesn't even have the privilege of family visiting him, and this violates the constitution as this action constitutes a cruel and unusual punishment. So it's through no fault of his own that the blog communications have stopped. Also he is in a prison that is exclusively for "terrorists" and in fact is being treated as a terrorist for no cause as he has never committed any violent acts against anyone. Kurt's due process rights have been greatly infringed upon, but don't get discouraged there are things in the works going on right now that are very encouraging. Also Kurt is in high spirits and has been very busy there in looking after the best interests of all clients and he's real close in proving everything he's said.


If he has no way to communicate with anyone, including his family, how do you know all this?

OMO said...

http://in5d.com/prosperity-fund-payments-to-be-released-by-august-17-2015/

persistancepays said...

ying/yang but if every nun haft bundits, den noone haft a bundints.

hey, yo haft buntits? noo, i haft bundits...oh, ok? but den if da nones haft it, den wah about the preests 2??

persistancepays said...

wy did yo m;ake dat cummint at 9:11, ho??

persistancepays said...

thins shud be hoppens soooon......!

mogel007 said...

OMO: M1, a real individual that represents the richest 128 families is going to pay off all world debt by August 17, 2015 because he loves everyone? And each person is going to get 6 million and $1800/month? Doesn't this sound like pie in the sky? If I had a $100 for each time some guru said something like this, I'd already have 6 million dollars.
Course some contingency is going to happen or be reported, and all bets will be off, just like it's happened every time before there was some false promise like this. I simply don't believe this. This is all part of the disinformation to provide false hope and to cause people to believe in nothing.

mogel007 said...

Look at the survey. 64% of the people polled believe that this prosperity program will not come to fruition next month.

persistancepays said...

mogel007 said...
Look at the survey. 64% of the people polled believe that this prosperity program will not come to fruition next month.




but dun bleef dem, days da same nuns ho sayed dat da dg will payoff beefo 2025??

yono?

taycamstu said...

What is the latest update?

Dr. Caligari said...

What is the latest update?

Kurt is still in prison.

Scott is still in prison.

No Dorean "settlement" has been paid.

No global "prosperity" payments have been made.

OMO said...


http://swissindo.net/public-announcement-for-immediate-release/

NOTICE of the rights, agreements, privileges, immunities, duties and obligations to deliver the above is contained in the attached document and has been distributed to:

Secretary General of the United Nations Organization.
President of the World Bank Group.
President of the International Court of Justice.
President of the International Criminal Court.
Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund.
Secretary General of the Bank for International Settlements.
Vice President of the International Finance Corporation.
President of the Financial Action Task Force.
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, the British Royal Family.
His Holiness Pope Francis, the Vatican.
Chair of the Board of Governors for the U.S. Federal Reserve System.
Secretary of the U.S. Department of Treasury
Greatest President United Nation, Royal K681. H.M.


OMO said...

"If everyone had 5 billions dollars then what would 5 billion dollars be worth? The answer: Absolutely nothing. Money is only given its value based on inequality. If everyone was financially equal there would be no value in money." Dean Clifford

And more importantly, to make government obsolete. Good bye royal family and the Kardashians. That's the goal- to get rid of government control over the people's right to determine their own destiny.

mogel007 said...

The latest update is and you might call me bold:

(1) Kurt will probably soon be released from prison
(2) Scott will probably soon be released from prison too.
(3) Dorean settlements were always promised and will come to fruition eventually. The chances of that happening at some point increases dramatically when the Dorean Group gets out of prison early. This event they're "early release" will show that they were "railroaded" because we all know that federal prisoners don't get out of prison 12-15 years early.
(4) Global prosperity payments looks "ify" to me. Seems to be they only have 4 days to perform on their commitments and promises. How likely is that to timely occur?

There's more to it than the above, but I'm waiting a little longer to give a better update so you will understand what I'm basing all of this upon.

Dr. Caligary's response is very sarcastic and far from the real truth of what's going on behind the scenes. He has no idea what's already transpired recently. Even Kurt is unaware of recent events, but soon will be. Scott is a little more enlightened because he is not in a CMU prison as he has the privilege of communication to the outside world. Scott has been a model prisoner.

persistancepays said...

Dr. Caligista shud cange yo name to DR. IRA GILAC. das hound betta!!

an dun foorgit, dat even da poope haft declawed a joobee on decber ate of 15. so all deaths will be fogifted. so yo can cum back if yo like?

persistancepays said...

said.....


"...da poope haft declawed a joobee.."

an da poope ain torkin sheet!!!

OMO said...

(1) Kurt will probably soon be released from prison
(2) Scott will probably soon be released from prison too.
(3) Dorean settlements were always promised and will come to fruition eventually. The chances of that happening at some point increases dramatically when the Dorean Group gets out of prison early. This event they're "early release" will show that they were "railroaded" because we all know that federal prisoners don't get out of prison 12-15 years early.
(4) Global prosperity payments looks "ify" to me. Seems to be they only have 4 days to perform on their commitments and promises. How likely is that to timely occur?
______________________________________________


Kurt and Scott have a secret bank account or trust fund somewhere to pay those settlements? If the funds are in a U.S. bank the account must be in someone else's name because the feds have already seized all U.S. bank /trust accounts that were in Kurt and Scott's name. And what happened to all the Dorean client files? Do they have a copy of those files on a CD rom? If not then where are they going to get the information they need to make settlements? There were hundreds if not a thousand Dorean clients- Kurt and Scott were almost never in direct communication with any of them. They dealt with agents only. Did those agents keep records? Hardly.

mogel007 said...

OMO: What's harder, getting Kurt & Scott out of prison early or making settlements? The clients know who they are and they are able to come forward at some point in time by responding to postings. The clients mortgages and discharges are of public record. It wouldn't be too difficult or impossible to search & reproduce those names & addresses even in the worst case scenario by checking all the County real estate records in the country by doing a search on the names of Kurt F. Johnson & Dale Scott Heineman who holds in trust most of these properties.
And if I remember correctly, many, most, or all, Dorean Presentments were filed into the criminal court record, and at least a 1000 clients have UCC-1 liens filed at the California Secretary of State's office. Remember, there was talk of the Justice Dept. expunging those 1,000 + UCC-1 liens. Apparently that was all talk as that never happened, probably because the Courts don't have jurisdiction to do that. The FBI confiscated the client's files, remember, and they were reproduced, so there is a record for sure after that was done. Must you be so negative? Where there is a will, there is a way. I don't know where all the files are, but as you may not know the Dept. of Justice also sent out emails to all the clients, and they have the records, and described them as victims. There's probably around 5,000 clients give or take, as remember Kurt mentioned taking in 5 Million. Also the records of each clients were sent to the main office in CA, so the Dorean Group would have files. I don't know if anything was put on CD rom, you would think that would be an intelligent thing to do after the FBI confiscation of the computers and records though.

mogel007 said...

The Habeaus Corpus Default and the Memorandum of Decision should be filed with the chief magistrate in Northern California today. I'm not certain whether the Grand Jury Administrator made arrangements with the process server to deliver these today, or if the administrator mailed these to be received today. So it’s basically a settled matter since the defendants didn’t respond to the habeas corpus petition charges within 3 days. So they must by law release Kurt & Scott from prison, otherwise the defendants are lawbreakers and other events will come into play to enforce that default judgment, and it doesn’t go well for the defendants or whomever is keeping Kurt & Scott in prison.

Here are the events that led up to all of this. In collaboration with the "National Liberty Alliance" & an excellent team set up, a writ of habeas corpus on behalf of Kurt & Scott, a common law grand jury was petitioned in New York for both Kurt & Scott's release.

Kurt for the last couple years has been housed in a an illegal CMU private prison first in Terra Haute Indiana, and then was moved to Marion, Illinois. Kurt & Scott were merely whistleblowers against the corrupt lending & banking systems but were indicted and convicted of conspiracy to commit mail, wire & bank fraud. Of course no bank fraud charges were ever an issue as all bank fraud charges were dropped before the trial interestingly enough & we believe they were only alleged to get a grand jury indictment and without any bank fraud charges as a foundation, the mail and wire fraud statutes become moot as there is no basis for a scheme to defraud. In the last few years, the Supreme Court said without bribes or kickbacks, you have no artifice or scheme to defraud, two elements not found in the Dorean process to challenge the banks, but that's exactly what the prosecution said, the Dorean process was an artifice & scheme to defraud. Then at sentencing the prosecutor said there was 50 Million in damages the banks suffered, not true as in other places in the court record where they admitted there was no financial loss, and no affidavits sworn to that effect, so the criminal prosecution was all a charade and a kangaroo court. The big deal was that it was alleged that the Dorean Group was filing fraudulent mortgage releases for clients. The US attorney contended they were not agents of the lender or a party to the security instrument, and had no authority to discharge mortgages, and hence the whole process was a scheme and a scam. However, that assertion by the U.S. Attorney is false and legally unfounded due to the Residential Mortgage Satisfaction Act, August 6, 2004 passed for all 50 States. On page 44 it reads: " Because the satisfaction agent acts in the instance pursuant to the authority of the Act, it is irrelevant whether the satisfaction agent is named as a party in the security instrument." Under Article 3 of this Act, a "satisfaction agent" may file an affidavit of satisfaction if a secured creditor fails to record a timely satisfaction after notice and an opportunity to cure that failure. Under Section 306(a), a recorded affidavit of satisfaction constitutes a "satisfaction" for purposes of this Act. Copies of this act can be found here: www.nccusl.org

mogel007 said...

The 4 defendants had 3 days to answer the habeas corpus complaint, defendants being (1) Judge Alsup, (2) FBI agent that arrested them, Matthew Ernst (3) US Attorney, & (4) US Marshall. Concerned friends for Kurt & Scott have been working on this for a while now with several affidavits being filed with the Common Law Grand Jury showing due process violations against Kurt & Scott. Remember Kurt said he was going to get out of prison early, and he was also convinced that he wouldn't spend more than 10 years in prison! This should be one of his predictions that should come to fruition. A writ of habeas corpus boils down to a demand to release them from prison and reasons for this. After August 13, 2015, it should get real interesting if they aren't released from prison next week since a default judgment has been issued by the common law grand jury of the people against all 4 defendants as of August 14, 2015. We're doing to the Judge & government, the same thing that they did to Kurt & Scott, but doing it through a common law grand jury, namely getting a grand jury judgment against 4 people for false arrest, false indictments, due process violations etc. A default judgment is one step away from an indictment.

There's only one person that has ever exited a CMU prison, so this should tell you something. This is a prison where almost all of the incarcerated have no privileges, no one visits them, and no communication in and out of the prison. This amounts to cruel & unusual punishment, against the Constitution. This should become big news at some point either way if they aren't released immediately as I imagine pressure will be put on the powers that be to follow the law. And if the powers that be don't release them, this will constitute sedition charges & violations of their oaths of office on the 4 defendants, and they should understand this at some point, but they haven't answered the charges because they can't, which means the 4 defendants are in default and that Kurt & Scott were railroaded by corrupt government officials.

mogel007 said...

These CMU prisons were turned down by the Congress, both Democrats & Republicans, but these illegal/private prisons where they stay were built anyway since 2008. It's like a GITMO prison built in the United States. 2/3 of the inmates are terrorists. There's less than 500 people in these 3 prisons, the one Super Max Prison was built in Florence, Colorado that house infamous prisoners like Ted Kazinski, the Una-bomber, and 911 conspirators, etc. . Remember Guantanomo Bay prison was shut down in Cuba because of constitutional issues. These people were transferred to one of these three prisons in this country. There's a documentary on this on the History Channel where they talk about "Supermax prisons", CMU's (Communication Management Units), and the prison system. Kurt is in a CMU prison. It's an eye opener. Most people are shocked when they learn that abuses are going on in the United States like this. This show aired Saturday 8-8-2015 on the History channel, on "America's Book of Secrets". Secret Prison Education by Jonathan Adams (2014) A look inside America's Maximum security secret prisons unveiling their hidden agendas and covert operations. Episode: 31 Original Air date May 13, 2014.
Did you know that 1 in 107 Americans are in prisons? The United States has 25% of all prisoners incarcerated, even though they constitute only 5% of the world population. Certainly we don't have more criminals than other countries. Many are in prison because it's a money making business where 1/2 the prisons are probably privately owned. Capitalism at work here.

mogel007 said...

The process server served the habeas corpus documents on August 10, 2015. . The docs were definitely served Monday August 10, 2015 on all 4 defendants, and we then allow just 3 days for those served to respond. That period of time expired at 5pm on the 13th of August. If, as we expect, no response is forthcoming before the deadline then we follow up with a Default Judgment and Memorandum of Decision. These will be sent to the chief magistrate of the federal court in Oakland, CA, who will do one of three things:

1. Issue an order releasing Dale and Kurt. My guess this is a 60% probability in my opinion.

2. They'll promptly schedule an emergency hearing on the matter, at which Kurt and Scott must be brought forth to personally appear. Such hearing would only be allowed to commence under common law jurisdiction. Any other jurisdiction would be objected to, and any decision made by the magistrate that is not in accordance with what is written in our Default judgment and Memorandum of Decision would also be objected to and followed up with a Writ of Error.

3. This is probably a 5% probability in my opinion. They'll ignore all of the Habeas Corpus documents and do nothing. We don't think that will happen, because the chief magistrate will understand that our paperwork is valid, and that she would then be in the same boat as judge Allsup and be liable for constitutional violations and loss of immunity.

I'll be watching this with keen interest to see what develops. :o) Vindication around the corner? Sure looks like that. It's going to get very interesting in the coming days.

So Dr. Calagary's update on the Dorean Blog is not all that accurate as it presents a very pessimistic view of what is really going on.

Some might ask is this process effective? I would say yes. There was a Steven Dean that was recently released from prison through this process: This was all a set up where the FBI gave Steven Dean a gun at a shooting range and then immediately arrested him because he was an alleged felon not able to have a gun. He didn't stay in prison very long in the West Valley, Utah prison. That's the same prison where Kurt was sent to in the beginning being extradited from California. See the link showing the success of the habeas corpus process: http://tinyurl.com/nwrsrfp
and http://tinyurl.com/ph2rz9f

A 2nd NLA member released from jail: http://tinyurl.com/ppjede3
This link talks about CMU prisons: http://tinyurl.com/otflm8q

Things are definitely turning around for the better, and there is great reason to hope and believe and assume the best.

Dr. Caligari said...

Wake me up when they're let out.

OMO said...

Mogel007: "Must you be so negative?"

I'm not being negative, just realistic. There's no money left, unless, as I said, they stashed it away in some an offshore account... which is not likely. Where did all that money go ? Only Kurt and Scott know.

OMO said...

I was hoping either Scott or Kurt would have subpoenaed me as a witness on their behalf. They never did. Instead, the DOJ's office called me and paid me a visit at my apt to see if they could use me as a witness against Kurt and Scott. They left disappointed.

mogel007 said...

OMO: I agree there is no public money left, however, that is not to say that we don't have huge financial damages against the government who is still free to create money I believe. That is not to say either that "private funds" can't be accessed either. All the public money/credits that the Dorean Group had was confiscated and seized by the FEDS/FBI, the 5 million in the Latvian account, and the $300,000 in the Stateside accounts, so any settlements in the future can't be paid from the public money they once had and it was never intended to be that way anyway in a settlement. 5 or 6 million is a mere pittance anyway.

So can I assume you were a dorean client if you were asked to be a witness?

Is it realistic to not expect miracles? That's the drift I am getting from you. Without the expectations of miracles, how can you or anyone else for that matter, exercise the faith needed to accomplish big tasks and great things? Even Peter tried to walk on water, but was unable to have that type of faith to do so, so it couldn't be done by him. Faith, even small faith can move mountains, so says the Bible. Do you believe that, or is that type of faith unrealistic in a Christians life? Even Jesus is unable to perform miracles around the unbelieving, he won't do it, he won't cast pearls before swines as the scripture says. Not saying anyone is a pig, but sacred things, important thing, great things, s must be treated with the right Spirit, with great faith, otherwise without faith, there is no hope, and without hope, we are in despair, we are & become as most people just miserable beings, and misery and despair is the result of a wicked life. These are just basic spiritual principles. Everything that will happen will be some sort of miracle, and as a man or woman thinketh, so is he/she.
Besides the unbelieving are sleeping. Isn't it obvious?

mogel007 said...

Here's the last communication Kurt probably had with the outside world:

May 25, 2015

Dear Mogel:

I never had enough support, but I have found I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. This has been a long trial however not without benefits. The promised victory I saw in the beginning of our Dorean efforts is a mere shadow of the real victory preserved for us. My regret is that men like ________ and ________
will never know the joy of what Scott and I know because they were too cowardly to trust Christ with their future. He is not a thief. Whatever costs he demands, he rewards with abundance. We won our trial in 2007, and should have been released, but that was not part of the predetermined plan they had for us , so Alsup covered their incompetence by fraud. The appeals court sanitized this by forcing attorneys whose job it was to waive these errors. It was a diligent battle to deal with plotted wickedness but also excellent training for the sharpening of my skills at. The man I am today I owe to the gantlet of fraud. The banks had every right to be confident in their arrogant contempt for Dorean. They knew what insurmountable obstacles awaited us. No ordinary men could cope with this. However, they soon discovered and are still frustrated by the fact that Scott and I are not ordinary men. This is why I am in a secret prison they can't expose to the public. God was in this because this entire prison program has no basis in law or should I say the color of law. The entire program is built on fraud. How funny is it that God sent his fraud busters to a prison operating in fraud? It is no accident. In fact, it is part of the grand finale of my victory. It is better to exit with a bang so to speak if God prolonged exit by 8 years.
The things you wrote are all true. I have discovered more detail than this. I'm about to prove all these positions absolutely. It's taken a couple years to align these events, but they have come together. Your paperwork was rejected, so I never saw it.
If I get out in the next 6 months (highly possible), I'll help you. All my communication with the outside world will be terminated as of June 1, 2015. Well farewell and know I look forward to revealing to all the Dorean clients why this difficult journey was the best and shortest path to truth and victory. We'll hold out for the best and the best we shall have.

Be blessed.

Your friend,

Kurt

OMO said...

"So can I assume you were a dorean client if you were asked to be a witness?"

No, I was not a client. I worked there. When the feds raided the Dorean office they wanted everyone's I.D. I presume they made a list of everyone who worked there, kept their names, addresses. I don't know how they got my phone number.


I wonder what this case was about:
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/cacdce/5:2011cv00522/498693/

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
mogel007 said...

In the court records on Pacer, Kurt filed paperwork to settle the matter of all the defendants in the criminal trial case on 2-20-2015. This is all based upon the belief/theory/fact, I'm no expert in these matters, that you can buy your way out of prison as you are just buying back the security that was created by the court action. Maybe that's true if all court cases are bonded, and have a value based upon the crimes committed, and since these bonds are traded like securities in the open markets.

On page 2 it appears that Kurt is giving notice and listing Jack Lew, Secretary of the Dept. of the Treasury as a "Notice Concerning Fiduciary Relationship" IRS Form 56. Kurt also sent a "money on account" order (a financial instrument) to the Court for 300 Million Dollars written off his UCC Contract Trust Account; (See page 28). This is the private funds account created at his birth by the government. On page 25 he filed a 1040-V payment voucher with the IRS, along with a 1099-A naming UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT as the borrower's name, meaning they are the recipient of these funds in Case # 05-CR-00611-002-WHA, and under description it reads: "Penal claim with surety bonds". Then on page 30 I see a FinCen Form 101 left blank. That is a Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, Suspicious Activity Report by the Securities and Futures Industries. On page 24, paragraph (h)(i) we read: " This Agreement of settlement and closure of public accounts shall be binding on all representatives of the Disclosing Party regardless of which representative receives the settlement presentments of Receiving Party. (i) Because Disclosing Party is receiving a tendered Money on Account Order for Three Hundred Million ($300,000,000.00) drawn on the account of Receiving Party at the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank, any dishonor or lack of processing the financial instrument will be an intentional breach of this agreement subjecting the agents and Disclosing Party to personal liability for the damages caused by such intentional breach and requiring the Receiving Party filing FINcen 101 and 3949A forms to the IRS for the various frauds associated therewith. Since the United States is in bankruptcy, any refusal to discharge a debt is a crime. Due to the incarceration a debt was created. Kurt is trying to settle the matter. Refusal of the instrument is discharge according to the UCC 3-603(b). Acceptance is also discharge of the debt. Not timely dishonoring the instrument for legal cause and timely returning the instrument is also "acceptance" according to the UCC. Surrender of the instrument is also discharge. If a prisoner is discharged of his debt, he is also released. I have 25 pages of memorandum of law to support the concept of discharge according to the UCC.

I think Kurt believes that this paperwork he filed is his "get of of jail free card", so that would explain his 6 months comment he made. We've all played the game of Monopoly, have we not? Could there be real life truths in the game of Monopoly, or is the most popular game ever created still just a game?
Now since it costs 300 Million to get out of prison for someone who is wrongfully convicted, and wrongfully incarcerated, you can just imagine what the financial amount would be for clients, actual, compensatory, and punitive damages who were also financially affected by this criminal trial & wrongful incarceration of their trustees, and wrongful encroachments on Dorean clients properties and the banks ignoring the original Dorean Presentments that were presented to the banks. In the criminal trial the banks according to the prosecution's testimony were damaged in the amount of 50 Million but supplied no evidence, and no testimony of that allegation and that was only on a handful of banks.

Were not talking peanuts here in a settlement for Dorean clients in the future. We're talking billions of dollars to be fair and to cover all damages.

OMO said...

$300 million has value as long as you play the game. It has no value outside of the game. Don't we all want out of the game?

OMO said...

58:30 “ ...Until you change the way money works, you change nothing.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87giGsiH4aA

So how does money work today? By agreement. How do you change an agreement of entire society / culture? Agreement is the glue that makes the monopoly money system work. It works great for the 1 percent- so long as everyone agrees to play the monopoly money game. In reality, money can be anything you want it to be. But it is not anything you want it to be, because the 1 percent, with the help of government, got everyone to agree to use a certain kind of money- monopoly money. So now everyone believes the money they have in their pocket real. Why? Because everyone agrees it is!

From the book Winning Through Enlightenment, page 9:

".. At a less intense level a phenomen called "agreement" comes into play, which obscures the fact that the stuff you have is unreal."

Change the word stuff and replace it with money:

At a less intense level a phenomen called "agreement" comes into play, which obscures the fact that money you have is unreal.

So how is the money system ever going to change if everyone continues to agree use bank notes as money? Of course the money in your pocket is real, everyone agrees it is.

persistancepays said...

lik yo sayed: "thins shud be hoppens soooon......!"

an yo twas da furst to sayed it!

persistancepays said...

an btw, foolget bout wha Dr. Cagata say...he dunt no sheet!!

get back da reel dr, DR. IRA GILAC!! ;-)

persistancepays said...

cagata- ital. (sl.) meaning "shit"

persistancepays said...

We won our trial in 2007, and should have been released, but that was not part of the predetermined plan they had for us.....


looking back now, after 20000 hrs. of meditation, there was no way the dg could win. and unfortunately, for kurt and scot, its good that they didnt win back then as...(above-slightly altered)

"The zonist banks had every right to be confident in their arrogant contempt for Dorean."

just as the global prospierty settlemints, nesara payments, etc if paid back then would have been merely again be confiscated by the zoinist banking system.

"Sorry! Your funds have been frozen by (Pick one: FBI, HOMESEC, US TREASURY, IRS, TSA, ETC) AS SUSPECTED SOURCE OF MONEY LAUNDERING AND/OR IN SUPPORT OF TERROIST ORGANSATIONS."

fact is, that nothing could have worked until all or at least 99.9% of the 'embedded' zoinistas have been rooted out of the sytem.

and thnk about it? how much more would kurt and scott have suffered, emotion wise knowing that all their work was flushed down the drain?? to see all their hard eanred clients victory funds confiscated by some alpahbet agency with some made up reason??? now, at least, any funds awarded will be safe from confiscation by these agencies. so, again all things work for good and the wait was for good; theirs and their clints.

thats why things are breaking up now, loosing up a bit. fact is, the whole world is now firmly agaisnt the zoinists. powerful countrires like russia, china etc are teaming up to utterly break the back of the zonists with like , BRICS, end of petrodollar etc. china devaling the currency, if any remaining zonist dont know that its OVA, (for them) tehn they will be getting the msg, reeeeeeal soon.


zonist- one who worships death and destrucion, enslavement of non zonists, war, central banks, terrorism, etc. a country that is a worldwide exporter of terrorism using deceptive means and false flag attacks

OMO said...

I think that's what they did back in the days of Christ- forced people to use a certain kind of money- Caesar's tokens. Christ questioned it. Most people don't.

mogel007 said...

From an "insider" who is fully aware of what's going on:

"Just a few words to keep you updated. As we expected, all of the respondents failed to either respond to our Writ of Habeas Corpus before the Thursday 5:00pm deadline, or to request additional time in which to respond. Once NLA was aware of their default in this matter, a packet containing the Notice of Default and Memorandum of Decision documents mentioned earlier, along with all the other documents that were served upon the respondents, was mailed yesterday to the chief magistrate of the District Court for the Northern District of California, who is now duty bound to handle this matter in an Article III court of record under common law jurisdiction. Since the respondents defaulted, their silence must be taken as an admission that everything stated in our documents is accepted as fact, and therefore the respondents now have no recourse to argue that Dale and Kurt must be further detained. The magistrate, therefore, is duty bound to meet our demands that Dale and Kurt be brought to appear in person at an emergency hearing to be held without delay at the chief magistrate's Oakland courthouse, and the chief magistrate may not reassign this case to any other magistrate, judge, or court without permission from NLA (which we would not grant). Therefore, we are now expecting that the chief magistrate will call a hearing in which she will promptly dispose of the matter in a lawful manner according to common law precepts. If the magistrate fails to comply with our Default Judgment and Memorandum of Decision, and chooses to either render a decision contrary to what is demanded in our documents, or chooses to ignore our documents in the same manner that the respondents have, then she too will become a respondent and a Writ of Error will issue. The chief magistrate certainly understands that at that point she could be charged with a constitutional violation, stripped of her immunity (along with the other respondents) and be arrested and prosecuted if necessary. We really don't believe she will want to set herself up for that, and trust that justice will prevail. So, let us hope that is the case, but be prepared to move forward with further actions if the magistrate fails to give us due and proper remedy. If the magistrate acts properly then we should soon hear from her as to the date and time of the emergency hearing. We expect that the mailed packet will be delivered to the magistrate by Monday, so a response from her should come shortly thereafter."

OMO said...

You want the Magi to do what is good and right, but show me a Magi who is willing to risk his/her job to help Kurt and Scott? Your "insider" seems to think there is a Magi who, unlike her other Mason friends, is good, kind and wants to do what is right inside a Just Us system that is dark, rotten and utterly corrupt...

OMO said...

The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...if only the Lord Savior Jesus Christ were here to advise him today.. Jesus Christ couldn't even save his own ass from the dark, rotten and corrupt.

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
mogel007 said...

You said: Jesus Christ couldn't even save his own ass from the dark, rotten and corrupt.

This is something many fail to understand. I knew an acquaintance who once said to me after watching the movie that comes out every Easter about the life of Christ: "I can't worship a god who supposedly has all power, who let's people push him around like Jesus allowed and I can't respect or worship a person like that who turned the other cheek and allowed others to abuse him."

Jesus has all power, he made that abundantly clear in his teachings, he could have subdued all of his captors & enemies, in a worldly way, but it wasn't ordained to be that way. His calling was to submit to the will of the Father, and suffer and die, which he did in all things which meant to suffer all things. Jesus allowing such abuse had nothing to do with his immense power which was always available to him to refuse all his sufferings. Even Ghandi didn't and refused to understand or even believe this concept. Ghandi would never accept Christianity because he was offended by the fact that since Christ suffered all things, that all mankind are subject to Him and under his authority. It was a concept he could't wrap his head around as being true, nor can you wrap your head around what Jesus needed to do. To say he couldn't subdue all of his enemies because the world is too corrupt and too rotten , is equal to not understanding his mission and purpose here on earth and also not acknowledging his power.

Common Law is superior to Admiralty Law. God's law is superior to all law as he is the law, he is the law giver. This is why the admiralty courts must submit, or become lawbreakers themselves, and face sedition charges if Kurt & Scott aren't released now, as a higher authority has spoken, a common law judgment. I don't think a fellow Judge like the chief Judge in Northern California is going to stick her neck out for any fellow Judge like Judge Alsup by ignoring this common law writ. When the ship is sinking all the rats are only interested in their own asses. This is why the chief Judge will honor the writ of habeas corpus that the common law grand jury in New York has decreed & will submit to that higher authority and free Kurt & Scott. She has no interest in sharing in any of the liability of the 4 defendants and doesn't want to become a 5th defendant either or be thrown off the bench, because that is exactly what will happen if she doesn't free Kurt & Scott. It is the concept called "rule of law". She must submit to the higher authority or become a lawbreaker against the Constitution herself which she has sworn to uphold.
Do you think Nixon wanted to give up his tapes that had evidence that wasn't flattering to him? He did so because he realized and submitted to the rule of law.

We have a judgment from a superior common law grand jury with supported memorandum of law, and a writ of habeas corpus to set them free. The chief judge is obligated to honor that.

See: Robin v. Hardaway 1790. Biblical Law at “Common Law ”Supersedes all laws, and ‘Christianity is custom. Custom is law.”

mogel007 said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
mogel007 said...

You said: "The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...if only the Lord Savior Jesus Christ were here to advise him today.. Jesus Christ couldn't even save his own ass from the dark, rotten and corrupt."

Jesus doesn't have to be here in person to advise Kurt & Scott and direct their activities.
And you wonder why Kurt & Scott didn't call you as a witness for them in their defense. I think it's rather obvious isn't it. What could you witness to that wasn't already known? What could you say that would be the determining factor that wasn't already put in the court record as a defense? You have no real faith or understanding of their plan. You think evil is stronger than the power of good and truth and justice. LOL Even in the Bible in the end, Satan loses, and is thrown in the everlasting pit of hell, and is subdued, and what's even more interesting, is that even Satan realizes and knows his eventual end and fate as it's already been revealed to him, and all his evil cohorts also know this. This knowledge still does not stop them from being who they are. Makes you wonder if Judge Alsup knows his eventual fate in history? I think the man is clueless.

mogel007 said...

Even the corrupt system has rules of law that are required to be followed. There will be consequences if the chief Judge ignores the writ. People will be going to jail if Kurt & Scott aren't released, and people's reputations are going to be ruined. It is going to get very ugly if they aren't released. It is much easier to release them than to put up with the consequences. Do you think Nixon wanted to resign? Do you think as rotten as he was that he could have still remained in office and did whatever he wanted? Isn't there a time when you have to do the right thing? That's where we are at.

mogel007 said...

You said: "You want the Magi to do what is good and right, but show me a Magi who is willing to risk his/her job to help Kurt and Scott?"

So you believe by the chief justice following the law and the constitution that she is going to lose her job by following the common law writ/foreign judgment already decreed? Do you think that the chief judge is going to have contempt for the common law grand jury writ and that she is going to think her authority exceeds that? Are you really that cynical? Do you think the power of the people have no power at all?

She is going to lose her job for sure if she doesn't release Kurt & Scott and have a hearing on their release very soon.

mogel007 said...

Is the constitution just a "damn piece of paper"? Shall I address you as "OMO Busch" now?

Since you believe Christ is not omnipotent, than can we conclude that you believe the power of Satan is overwhelming and controlling and Kurt & Scott have no chance in hell of ever getting out of prison?

And if you believe that, what good would your witness in court have done? LOL

mogel007 said...

The Federal Grand Jury booklet says that the US Attorney himself is required to sign the indictment.

Guess what? it wasn't the US Attorney who signed either indictment against Kurt & Scott but the Assistant US Attorney.

They didn't follow the law from the very beginning.

And when the US Attorney's office sent out the indictment to the press, even the Grand Jury Foreman on the 1st indictment wasn't even signed, and they called it a "True Bill". That makes them look kind of stupid in my estimation.

mogel007 said...

Even in the sentencing the prosecution said there were 50 Million in damages suffered by the banks, yet agreed there were no bank victims in other places of the court record and that's why the 30 year maximum sentencing for that charge was not possible because there was no bank victims,and that's why they only got 20 years on the first charge. All the rest of the charges only racked up to 17 months extra for Scott and only 5 years in addition for Kurt. The conspiracy charge was the main charge.
The charge that socked it to them was the conspiracy to commit bank fraud, mail fraud & wire fraud. Mind you there was no bank fraud, so it's a conspiracy to pretend that bank fraud was committed. And since there were no bank fraud victims, there could not be any mail fraud or wire fraud, because there are no victims of the artifice to defraud. There couldn't be an artifice to defraud because of the recent "Bond" decision that said in order to have an artifice to defraud there must be "kickbacks" or "bribery" present. So the prosecution called the Dorean process a scheme to defraud even though it couldn't be one by legal definition. The convictions were all based upon make believe.
And the alleged victims, "the financial institutions" had to be insured by the FDIC in order to qualify as a "financial institution" victim. Guess what, many of the pretended victims never met that definition. How stupid is that? And this is suppose to be the best legal team that they could put together to put this so called terrorist called Kurt Johnson in prison. Then they had a witness named Matthew Ernst that didn't know anything but signed a declaration of what went on & was coached to put his John Hancock on a document he had no first hand knowledge about. There were no affidavits on the court record, no victims, so this means the Court had no jurisdiction whatsoever to hold the criminal prosecution. It was all done against the clear law on these matters. By law, it should have never gone to trial period. Is Judge Alsup really that stupid to have allowed a kangaroo court like that he presided over to continue and to think he would never be held accountable for his actions and ommissions and commissions, knowing too that he gave bad instructions to the jury and for sure lost any jurisdiction he may have had by his inflammatory comments towards the defendants on the record?
To say Kurt & Scott lost their case is erroneous. How can you lose a criminal case that is void from the beginning by it's very nature? For clients that lost faith because they were put in prison due to being convicted is silly. If the conviction is void, why blame Kurt & Scott? Soon enough this will become apparent to even the enemies of Kurt & Scott.

And how can you make two different Conspiracies out of the whole Dorean Process? The Brokers were only charged with a conspiracy that carried 5 years in prison at most. This shows that even the Brokers charged didn't understand that there was some selective prosecution going on, and never questioned that, and an apparent prejudice where there is no equality under the law, as different defendants were being treated differently. How is that fair or just? The whole trial smaked of injustice and fantasy. And the Judge screwed up in the sentencing requirements too and violated the law.

Yea, do whatever you want, and think that there will never be consequences or accountabililty and that no one will ever figure these things out. See how long you can get away with that type of thinking.

mogel007 said...

As of July 1, 2013, the US Bankruptcy ended, and all debts were discharged, in order to come out of bankruptcy, so why do we have these people coming forward agreeing to pay all our debts and promising a stipend for each person as if they are some great humanitarian?

Why would you agree to pay a debt that is already paid and discharged? That's why I don't believe this guy who represents the rich families of the East. Oh by the way, tomorrow is the deadline for all these promises to be fulfilled. Tomorrow, Monday, we can all ask for the proof as August 17, 2015 was the deadline that all debts would be discharged.

persistancepays said...

Guess what? it wasn't the US Attorney who signed either indictment against Kurt & Scott but the Assistant US Attorney.


look like jus anther 'robosinging'!!

wit a bad voice!!

persistancepays said...

"Why would you agree to pay a debt that is already paid and discharged?


caus detb discharg is coming a cottage industry.

lest see?

ho many ppls are now claming to dischog yo deaths?

M-1

global prop programs

da poope delcar joobelee


ho else get in ling to dischoog the deats?

persistancepays said...

Re: Swissindo - Public Announcement, just released

"let me add this one to the long series of disillusionments we had already
as if nesara, iraqi dinar, rv, oppt and what have you wasn't enough already
and yeah i know... this is "different"

we never seem to learn "

===================================================================


Ok, then please tell me why John Kerry, United States Secretary of State, would officially acknowledge the legitimacy of UNGSE id and travel documents if Swissindo/UNGSE is not legitimate.



can any nun verife da abuf?? re: kerky?

persistancepays said...

is dat cud be why da plan with da 600gees in got blowed up?

they was gong to give da po peepls sum mony in indo knees ya?

wha hpoopens to da plain? it gut blowed up in da hare?

persistancepays said...


FAQs

What are Payments 1 – 11?
Where did the assets come from?
What is the value of the assets which back Payments 1-11?
How much will each country receive?
How can countries access their Country Quota payment?
How much will each living person receive?
How can people access their inheritance entitlement?
Are they going to give countries or the people physical gold and platinum?
Is this a new offer from SwissIndo?



http://ungse.org.au/

persistancepays said...

How can people access their inheritance entitlement?



People will need to present identification at a bank. The bank will issue an ATM card linked to your personal inheritance account so you can access your monthly stipend. Routing of payments through the global network of ATMs will be ready before people begin to collect their ATM cards.
Detailed information on how countries and individuals can access their funds will be published as soon as practicable.
The money and the means to access it will be available as soon as technically possible after the August 17 2015 deadline.
Access to the money may be easier in countries which accept their gift.
Some countries who do not accept their gift may choose to block the payments, perhaps because of some leaders’ and/or shadow powers’ obsession with absolute power and control over their citizens and/or the world so they can maintain their self-serving local or global financial, military or religious domination.

persistancepays said...

so it dat eesy huh?


jus goes to da bake and git yo ATM good fo' $6 MILL???

all yo can is LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

persistancepays said...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

OMO said...

"So you believe by the chief justice following the law and the constitution that she is going to lose her job by following the common law writ/foreign judgment already decreed?"


The Justice system doesn't operate under any law or constitution, all you have to do is look in your wallet. Does the constitution authorize Federal Reserve Notes? Under the common law money can be anything you want it to be, and under the Constitution money is gold and silver coin. None of that is in operation today. What is in operation today is the federal reserve system- an alien presence on this planet. No law can apply to an alien presence.

The federal reserve system depends on corrupt judges to keep it going and any judge who moves to change it is going to get the ax.

OMO said...

"The bank will issue an ATM card linked to your personal inheritance account so you can access your monthly stipend."

What bank will issue the ATM, Bank of America? J.P. Morgan? Wells Fargo? LOL

OMO said...


None of the U.S codes (Title 1-54) are constitutional. See Authority of Law by Charles Weisman. So you can't rely on any code to give you justice. They can use those codes at their discretion, but it's not mandatory they do.

mogel007 said...

The common law does not rely on codes, they rely on the common law.

The common law grand jury established res judicata and ster descisis and did so by jury decision in the superior court of the People which no inferior court or jurisdiction has authority to overturn or review according to Amendment Article VII and Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution for the united States of America. This is important because a jury decision in Public Court stands over any decision by corporate administrative tribunals which are expected to act in conformance with Public Law.

If the chief justice will not follow the constitution, then we just have her removed from office, arrested and imprisoned.

Not all Judges are totally corrupt as you suggest.

OMO said...

"The common law does not rely on codes, they rely on the common law."

As I said, neither the common law nor the constitution is in operation today. The law is what the money says it is. Law and money, law and money, law and money. The law is what the money says it is, and there is no common law money, and there is no constitutional money. The system is not going to change from inside the justice system. It will change but not inside the system.

OMO said...

If you think we can affect change from inside the system you are deluded. People have to stop agreeing to using federal reserve notes. It's the people choice right now, and until people stop being sheep and following what the government dictates as money, nothing is going to change.

OMO said...

You seem to think that you can pressure a judge into accepting the common law or constitutional law. Yes, you can, if that judge wants to change the monetary system, because that's essentially what he will be doing: changing the monetary system from one of alien to common law or constitution.

You say that not all judges are corrupt. Good luck finding that one judge who wants to change monetary system back to common law or constitution and I'll eat my hat.

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
OMO said...

Federal reserve notes are not recognized in any law of the United States because the the source of Notes is not the people (common law) nor is it the constitution. The source is alien. It's an alien force which no law can be applied.

OMO said...

Federal reserve notes are recognized in the U.S. code, but as I said, the U.S. code is not constitutional. It is color of law.

mogel007 said...

You said: "As I said, neither the common law nor the constitution is in operation today."

Yes there is. Just like there is a defacto United States, and a real united States government. We're not asking the Judge to legislate out the federal reserve notea, we are only demanding that they release Kurt & Scott.

You're bringing to the table an issue that was never raised and isn't the issue at hand.

mogel007 said...

You said: "As I said, neither the common law nor the constitution is in operation today."

See: http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/

Not true. There's a defacto United States government and there's a real united States government in operation today.

We're not asking the court to get rid of federal reserve notes, we're asking the court to honor the foreign judgment which demands Kurt & Scott be released.

You're bringing to the table an issue that is not relevant to their release.
When they are released you'll have to admit that.

OMO said...

I did not say you were asking the court to get rid of federal reserve notes. What I did say is in the federal reserve system there is no law which requires the court to do anything. If they want to honor a foreign judgment and release Kurt and Scott, it's at their discretion, because there is no law requiring a judge to uphold your request. If, on the other hand, there is a real united States Government in operation today, the judges would have real oaths and would have no discretion in the matter, as they would be under oath. There are no judges in the U.S. today with a legit oath of office,and that can mean only one thing: the law of the federal reserve system, which is no law at all.


"You're bringing to the table an issue that is not relevant to their release."

It's relevant because under the federal reserve system no judge is required to uphold the law. You have no proof that there is real united States Government in operation today and you will not have that proof because the proof is in the judge's oath.

OMO said...


Kurt and Scott are political prisoners and are being held for political reasons only. I don't know what the remedy for that is, but it's not in the real law because the real law doesn't allow for political prisoners, per the separation of powers doctrine.

mogel007 said...

I tried to obtain the oath of office on Judge Alsup. No one else thought to ever do this except me. All I could get was a letter from the government office that handles this saying that Judge Alsup took the proper oath of office on a certain date. Apparently on Federal judges now, their oaths are not public record you can petition for, unless of course you want to sue for it, so the point being, I can't tell whether Judge Alsup took the proper oath of office or not as I don't know if the lady is telling the truth or not. The person who signed the letter did point to the statute saying what these were the words taken & agreed to though, so if it happened as the person said in the letter, he took the proper oath of office so I didn't pursue it further.

These two cases makes my points:

Ensminger v. Farm Credit Bank of Wichita & First National Bank of Okeene
Decision of the 10th Circuit, US Court of Appeals
(Court recognized the common law jury judgment as valid)

Also:

A.H. Belo Corp v. F.R. Johnny Johnson, Jerry L. Wilkins, et al.
Cause No. 95-07735
In the Dist. Court of Dallas County, Texas
(this showed that the admiralty court did not have authority to contest the Common Law Court judgment) Res judicata applied here.

mogel007 said...

Kurt and Scott are political prisoners and are being held for political reasons only. I don't know what the remedy for that is, but it's not in the real law because the real law doesn't allow for political prisoners, per the separation of powers doctrine.
_____________________________

Do you have hard fast irrefutable evidence that they are political prisoners? If they are that can be proven in court, then their rights have been violated, and some heads need to roll and that in and of itself is reason to release them.

mogel007 said...

At least we know that Federal Judges aren't bonded by the letter below. I know Kurt tried to get this information and was blocked by the court as he wanted the insurance company that bonded Judge Alsup. The federal judges carry total personal liability with no protection apparently if they act outside their jurisdiction because no insurance company is willing to indemnify or bond them or pay for their mistakes. At least that's interesting to know.


From Administrative Office of the Untied States Courts, Washington DC 20544

July 30, 2015

Dear Sir:

This is in response to your request for a copy of the oath of office form for the Honorable William Haskell Alsup. Although the Administrative Office of the United States Courts does not release copies of a judge's signed oath of office, this letter will confirm that William Haskell Alsup has been appointed as a judge of the Northern District of California and took the oath of office prescribed by law as noted below. The text of the oath of office for judges may be found in the United States Code at 28 U.S.C. 453 and 5 U.S.C. 3331. Please also note that United States Judges are not issued bonds.

Name & Title: William Haskell Alsup 0istrict Judge
Oath of Office Date: August 17, 1999.

Please be advised that the Freedom of Information Act does not apply to "courts of the United States", an exemption that has been extended to the entire federal judicial branch including the Administrative Office of the United States Courts and the Judicial Conference of the United States. See 5 U.S.C. 551(1)(B), 552(f).

Thank-you for your inquiry.

Sincerely,

CSS
Judges Compensation and Retirement Division

OMO said...


Do you have hard fast irrefutable evidence that they are political prisoners?


I've never heard of any court admitting they imprison people for political reasons, but we all know they do. Kurt and Scott broke no law but and were charged under an ambiguous U.S. code. That tells me they are not being held for criminal reasons but for political ones.

From wiki:
A political prisoner is someone imprisoned because they have opposed or criticized the government responsible.

The term is used by persons or groups challenging the legitimacy of the detention of a prisoner. Supporters of the term define a political prisoner as someone who is imprisoned for his or her participation in political activity. If a political offense was not the official reason for detention, the term would imply that the detention was motivated by the prisoner's politics.

mogel007 said...

You can get copies of the oaths of office of State Judges however.

mogel007 said...

Kurt and Scott are political prisoners and are being held for political reasons only. I don't know what the remedy for that is, but it's not in the real law because the real law doesn't allow for political prisoners, per the separation of powers doctrine.
______________________________________

It is in the real law, the legal term is called, "false imprisonment".

mogel007 said...

Why is it false imprisonment? Because the law does not allow for imprisoning people on a political basis or belief. It violates the 1st amendment.

OMO said...



You will find flaws in all the state and federal judges oaths.

See http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/
"The Credential Investigation: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law," by Paul Andrew Mitchell, Private Attorney General [PAG] (8/15/2015)

OMO said...

"Because the law does not allow for imprisoning people on a political basis or belief. It violates the 1st amendment."


Yes, you're right. But good luck getting the court to admit they imprison people for political reasons. You've got to prove the violation first.

mogel007 said...

If they didn't commit any real crimes, by definition they are political prisoners.
Robert Shaeffer is a political prisoner railroaded & convicted of murder & resides at the prison in Marion, IL where Kurt is at. Mr. Shaeffer's attorney from Alaska wanted me to find some treaty that the U.S. is a party to.

mogel007 said...

A guard admitted that to a guy that was imprisoned at the Marion prison. He's the only person that has ever exited a CMU. He said in the CMU documentary on the History Channel, that some people are "balancers" and are only there for political reasons to balance out the obvious discrimination against Muslims who are 2/3 of the population there in the Marion prison, all assumed to be terrorists.

OMO said...

"If they didn't commit any real crimes, by definition they are political prisoners.


Exactly.

mogel007 said...

That link for Paul Andrew is a bad link.

I'd like to read that if you can get me a workable link.

mogel007 said...

I've always suspected they might be perverted oaths and are leaving out necessary things, however the main thing I want to see is that they agree to defend the constitution.

OMO said...

"The Credential Investigation: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law," by Paul Andrew Mitchell, Private Attorney General [PAG] (8/15/2015)

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOZjlO2rAKc

mogel007 said...

Right in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR): "Other constitutional and legislative courts of the United States"

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2015/03/right-in-the-code-of-federal-regulations-cfr-other-constitutional-and-legislative-courts-of-the-unit.html

OMO said...

Well, they still don't have valid oaths for those "Other constitutional and legislative courts of the United States."

mogel007 said...

Judge Alsup's oath of office: http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.gif

Judge Alsup's certificate of oath should be indorsed on his license and it isn't, which means he is in violation of CA sections 6126, and 6128 of the California Business & Profession Code. Also see 4 U.S.C. 101

This means he is not in good member in good standing of the State Bar of CA. See Section 6002

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/nad.certificate.htm

Good stuff here:

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/

Problems with Judge Allsup's oath of office, such as no OMB number at the top right hand corner, which is extremely important, otherwise, it's not authenticated:

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.refused.jpg

mogel007 said...

When you say valid oaths, can you elucidate further and give all reasons for that statement?

mogel007 said...

Here's the oath:

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/oath.gif

I don't want to confuse the affidavit from the oath

mogel007 said...

Federal Judges are not a member of the State bar while they are in office:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/55404

persistancepays said...

PAPAL BULL:



APOSTOLIC LETTER
ISSUED MOTU PROPRIO

OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
FRANCIS

ON THE JURISDICTION OF JUDICIAL AUTHORITIES OF VATICAN CITY STATE
IN CRIMINAL MATTERS





In our times, the common good is increasingly threatened by transnational organized crime, the improper use of the markets and of the economy, as well as by terrorism.

It is therefore necessary for the international community to adopt adequate legal instruments to prevent and counter criminal activities, by promoting international judicial cooperation on criminal matters.

In ratifying numerous international conventions in these areas, and acting also on behalf of Vatican City State, the Holy See has constantly maintained that such agreements are effective means to prevent criminal activities that threaten human dignity, the common good and peace.

With a view to renewing the Apostolic See’s commitment to cooperate to these ends, by means of this Apostolic Letter issued Motu Proprio, I establish that:

1. The competent Judicial Authorities of Vatican City State shall also exercise penal jurisdiction over:

a) crimes committed against the security, the fundamental interests or the patrimony of the Holy See;

b) crimes referred to:

- in Vatican City State Law No. VIII, of 11 July 2013, containing Supplementary Norms on Criminal Law Matters;

- in Vatican City State Law No. IX, of 11 July 2013, containing Amendments to the Criminal Code and the Criminal Procedure Code;

when such crimes are committed by the persons referred to in paragraph 3 below, in the exercise of their functions;

c) any other crime whose prosecution is required by an international agreement ratified by the Holy See, if the perpetrator is physically present in the territory of Vatican City State and has not been extradited.

2. The crimes referred to in paragraph 1 are to be judged pursuant to the criminal law in force in Vatican City State at the time of their commission, without prejudice to the general principles of the legal system on the temporal application of criminal laws.

3. For the purposes of Vatican criminal law, the following persons are deemed “public officials”:

a) members, officials and personnel of the various organs of the Roman Curia and of the Institutions connected to it.

b) papal legates and diplomatic personnel of the Holy See.

c) those persons who serve as representatives, managers or directors, as well as persons who even de facto manage or exercise control over the entities directly dependent on the Holy See and listed in the registry of canonical juridical persons kept by the Governorate of Vatican City State;

d) any other person holding an administrative or judicial mandate in the Holy See, permanent or temporary, paid or unpaid, irrespective of that person’s seniority.

4. The jurisdiction referred to in paragraph 1 comprises also the administrative liability of juridical persons arising from crimes, as regulated by Vatican City State laws.

5. When the same matters are prosecuted in other States, the provisions in force in Vatican City State on concurrent jurisdiction shall apply.

6. The content of article 23 of Law No. CXIX of 21 November 1987, which approves the Judicial Order of Vatican City State remains in force.

This I decide and establish, anything to the contrary notwithstanding.

I establish that this Apostolic Letter issued Motu Proprio will be promulgated by its publication in L’Osservatore Romano, entering into force on 1 September 2013.

Given in Rome, at the Apostolic Palace, on 11 July 2013, the first of my Pontificate.



FRANCISCUS



persistancepays said...

AND THAT AINT NO BULL!!!


immunity has been removed from ALL pubic offshalls.

they will now be held accuntable fo they crims.

tehy will NOW be charge with crimes agianst humity.

and dat iant no BULL!!!

persistancepays said...

For the purposes of Vatican criminal law, the following persons are deemed “public officials”:

a) members, officials and personnel of the various organs of the Roman Curia and of the Institutions connected to it.

b) papal legates and diplomatic personnel of the Holy See.

c) those persons who serve as representatives, managers or directors, as well as persons who even de facto manage or exercise control over the entities directly dependent on the Holy See and listed in the registry of canonical juridical persons kept by the Governorate of Vatican City State;

d) any other person holding an administrative or judicial mandate in the Holy See, permanent or temporary, paid or unpaid, irrespective of that person’s seniority.

4. The jurisdiction referred to in paragraph 1 comprises also the administrative liability of juridical persons arising from crimes, as regulated by Vatican City State laws.



AND IT ALL APPLIES AS "ALL LAW© COMES FROM ROME"


yes, its a corp copyright vilotion

persistancepays said...

rember:


READ C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y


3. For the purposes of Vatican criminal law, the following persons are deemed “public officials”: ****[former “private officials” exempt from law are now within the laws dictates and are held liable, aka “public servants”]

a) members, officials and personnel of the various organs of the Roman Curia and of the Institutions connected to it. ****[world-wide corporations and all individuals in trust are corporations pursuant to their birth certificate]

b) papal legates and diplomatic personnel of the Holy See. ****[The Pope governs the Church/people/trust, all the people in the Birth Trust, through the Roman Curia, the governing body of the Vatican]

c) those persons who serve as representatives, managers or directors, as well as persons who even de facto manage or exercise control over the entities [public servants] directly dependent on the Holy See [trust beneficiaries] and listed in the registry [through birth certificates] of canonical juridical persons ****[legal fiction represented by your birth certificate ALL CAPS NAME] kept by the Governorate of Vatican City State;

d) any other person holding an administrative or judicial mandate in the Holy See, permanent or temporary, paid or unpaid, irrespective of that person’s seniority. [all public servants]

4. The jurisdiction referred to in paragraph 1 comprises also the administrative liability of juridical persons arising from crimes, as regulated by Vatican City State laws. *****>>>>>[public servants are now liable for crimes against humanity]

5. When the same matters are prosecuted in other States, the provisions in force in Vatican City State on concurrent jurisdiction shall apply.

6. The content of article 23 of Law No. CXIX of 21 November 1987, which approves the Judicial Order of Vatican City State remains in force.

This I decide and establish, anything to the contrary notwithstanding.

I establish that this Apostolic Letter issued Motu Proprio [on his own impulse] will be promulgated by its publication in L’Osservatore Romano, entering into force on 1 September 2013.

Given in Rome, at the Apostolic Palace, on 11 July 2013, the first of my Pontificate.


[Synopsis: Church = People = Trust



The Vatican created a world trust using the birth certificate to capture the value of each individual’s future productive energy. Each state, province and country in the fiat monetary system, contributes their people’s value to this world trust identified by the SS, SIN or EIN numbers (for example) maintained in the Vatican registry. Corporations worldwide (individuals became corporate fictions through their birth certificate) are connected to the Vatican through law (Vatican to Crown to BAR to laws to judge to people) and through money (Vatican birth accounts value to IMF to Treasury (Federal Reserve) to banks to people (loans) to judges (administration) and sheriffs (confiscation).

Judges administer the birth trust account in court matters favoring the court and the banks, acting as the presumed “beneficiary” since they have not properly advised the “true beneficiary” of their own trust. Judges, attorneys, bankers, lawmakers, law enforcement and all public officials (servants) are now held personally liable for their confiscation of true beneficiary’s homes, cars, money and assets; false imprisonment, deception, harassment, and conversion of the true beneficiary’s trust funds.]

persistancepays said...

HO IT ALL COCTED TO one other:


from wome to......


Corporations worldwide (individuals became corporate fictions through their birth certificate) are connected to>>>>>>>>>>> the Vatican through law (Vatican to >>>>>>>Crown to >>>>>>>BAR to >>>>>>laws to >>>>>judge to >>>>>people) and >>>>>through money (Vatican birth accounts value to >>>>>>IMF to >>>>>Treasury (Federal Reserve) to>>>>>>> banks to >>>>>people (loans) to>>>>>> judges (administration) and sheriffs (confiscation).

persistancepays said...

....sin bone cocted to tie bone....tie bun cocted to hip bun...hip boon cocted to xxx bone...cocted to ham bones....cocted to ......?????

persistancepays said...

so and now it all coming down...basically da ZONIST FIAT BAKING SYTEM

persistancepays said...

...."all public officials (servants) are now held personally liable for their confiscation of true beneficiary’s homes, cars, money and assets; false imprisonment, deception, harassment, and conversion of the true beneficiary’s trust funds

persistancepays said...

"This I decide and establish, anything to the contrary notwithstanding.



AN IFS YA DUN LIKE, DEN GO PUND SAND!!!! LOL

persistancepays said...

AN DUN FORGET:


"[public servants are now liable for crimes against humanity]

persistancepays said...

AN WE WILL HANGS YA BY YO B@@LS!!! IN PUBLIC OF COURSE! LOLLOL!

OMO said...

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/oath.gif

Which Constitution are they referring to? The 1787 one or the 1871 one? How would you know which Constitution the oath is referring to if it isn't dated (e.g. Constitution of the United States (1787) or Constitution of the United States (1871)? That's one reason the U.S. Code is not the law.

http://worldtruth.tv/two-constitutions-in-the-united-states-1st-was-suspended-in-favor-of-a-vatican-corporation-in-1871/

The Constitution for the united states of America” or “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”.

OMO said...

Do a search for the phrase "this constitution." Unlike Alsup's oath, there is no doubt which Constitution is being referring to here. This Constitution:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

OMO said...

Which Constitution are they bound by Oath or Affirmation to support? This (1787) one:


Article. VI.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

persistancepays said...

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by what da poope say."

PERIOD

E.O.S.

/s/ Da Poope


(an dat aint no sheet!)

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
OMO said...

A specific Constitution isn't even mentioned in this code section:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/453

mogel007 said...

Judge Alsup's oath of office does not have an OMB control number on it, which is mandated, so his oath of office is a fraud or forgery and incomplete and not authenticated by law making his oath of office unenforceable and his rulings void.

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.refused.jpg

Without their credentials, these rogue judges are guilty of all kinds of crimes, including mail fraud, obstruction of justice, witness retaliation, conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering, and more. Title 42 Section 1986 says if they fail to correct these defects, the judges become civilly liable. Without the paperwork being in order, the Judge has no jurisdiction. Sending counterfeit documents constitutes mail fraud, which is a felony.
Stump v. Sparkman, which says if a Federal judge doesn't have jurisdiction, he or she is personally liable to all the parties.

The criminal trial against Kurt & Scott was a sham because the DOJ is chartered to represent the "United States", and has no authority to represent any private corporation chartered in the 50 states, like the banks interests.

Link for below law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/12/506.1

§ 506.1 OMB control numbers assigned pursuant to the Paperwork Reduction Act.
(a) Purpose. This part collects and displays the control numbers assigned to information collection requirements contained in regulations of the Office of Thrift Supervision by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) pursuant to the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995, Pub. L. 104-13, 109 Stat. 163, and is adopted in compliance with the requirements of 5 CFR 1320.8. Information collection requirements that are not mandated by statute must be assigned control numbers by OMB in order to be enforceable. Respondents/record keepers are not required to comply with any collection of information unless it displays a currently valid OMB control number.

No OMB number here: on 1st required oath:
http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.gif

No OMB number here on 2nd required oath:
http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/oath.gif

There's a famous tax case that a person beat and the IRS dropped his tax liability because he brought up the need for OMB numbers on the documents saying a tax was due. The OMB number gives the authority cite for the paperwork.

Judge Alsup's certificate of oath should be indorsed on his license and it isn't, which means he is in violation of CA sections 6126, and 6128 of the California Business & Profession Code. Also see 4 U.S.C. 101

This means he is not in good member in good standing of the State Bar of CA. See Section 6002

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/nad.certificate.htm

persistancepays said...

jug al slap yo upside yo haid!!

OMO said...

all you have to do is draft an oath referring to the 1787 constitution. OMB numbers???? for an oath???

mogel007 said...

Yes no OMB number and no statute authority given on the oath or expiration date:

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.refused.jpg

mogel007 said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
mogel007 said...

PROOF OF THE LEGITIMACY OF THE COMMON LAW WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS FOR KURT & SCOTT

The findings of facts and conclusions by the common law grand jury is not reviewable by any other court of the United States as set forth under the 7th Amendment, nor subject to trespass upon it’s case by the judicial power of the United States, see the 11th amendment of our national constitution.

Any cause of action is barred by Res Judicata and the statutory court has no jurisdiction and/or venue over this substance of the default judgment obtained, as per the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights in the Separation of Common Law Courts and Statutory (maritime) Courts wherein it is specifically declared that there is no appeal from a jury trial in the Common Law Courts tried by a jury. It is well-known that appeal is allowed from a statutory court.

The defendants did not assert their rights and defenses under the Uniform Commercial Code and so waived their rights to complain or bring any action.

Defendants were required to answer the complaint made against them and in not so doing they refused their opportunity to deny and are forever barred.

In Wyly v. Collins, 9 Ga. 223, at 237 (1851) acknowledges the Common Law and the Holy Bible from which it came, which is the foundation of the Common Law is our God given Constitutionally Secured Right. The 97th Congress declared the Holy Bible to be the word of God by Joint Resolution, Public Law 97-280 96 Stat. 1211.

The Common Law Grand Jury has original and exclusive jurisdiction as it’s considered a supreme court ruling and the Federal Court has no jurisdiction or venue to attack this judgment. See A.H. Belo Corp. vs. P.R. Johnny Johnston; Jerry L. Wilkins, et al. Case No. 95-07735.

mogel007 said...

To add to the validity of this understanding of the Tenth Circuit decision it is important to note that there have been other successes incorporating this decision into a judicial notice to the other courts, and removing these cases to the venue of the Common Law court. In one such case, James A. Elliott & United States Bankruptcy court for the Western District of Oklahoma, the bankruptcy court agreed with the common Law court’s decision and ordered that Mr. Elliott receive all of his property back even though it had been sold and taken from his possession.

A "court of record" is a judicial tribunal having attributes and exercising functions independently of the person of the magistrate designated generally to hold it, and proceeding according to the course of common law, its acts and proceedings being enrolled for a perpetual memorial. Jones v. Jones, 188
Mo.App. 220, 175 S.W. 227, 229; Ex parte Gladhill, 8 Metc. Mass.,
171, per Shaw, C.J. See, also, Ledwith v. Rosalsky, 244 N.Y.
406, 155 N.E. 688, 689.

Legislative statutory courts themselves admitted the validity of the common Law Court in Strauss V. Strauss, 3 So. 2nd 772 at 728 (1941) which states: “Every system of law known to civilized society generated from or had as its component, one of three well known systems of ethics, pagan, stolic, or Christian. The Common Law draws its substance from the latter, its roots go deep into that system, the Christian concept of Right and Wrong and justice motivates every rule of equity. It is the guide by which we dissolve domestic frictions and the rule by which all legal controversies are settled.”
“Whereas we learned that ‘The Law of the Land’ means ‘The Common Law.’” State v. Simmon, 2 Spears 761, at 767 (1884). Justice O’Neal speaking for the Courts; Taylor v. Porter, 4 Hill, 140, at 146 (1843); Webster’s definition of “the Law of the Land” at Dartmouth, 4 Wheaton 518 at 581, 582.

Article IV, Section 2, Part I of the constitution For the United States of America which guarantees: “The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges of citizens in the several states.”
Article 2 of the compact agreement states, “The inhabitants of the said territory shall always be entitled to the writ of Habeas Corpus, and of Trial by Jury, And of judicial proceedings according to the course of the Common Law.

The 1946 Administrative Procedures Act, Title 5 U.S.C., Section 559 at sentence 2, “requires the Administrative Law to be in compliance with and in conformity to the Constitution For the United States of America and the common Law, with all its prohibitions, restrictions, restraints and limitations imposed by its enumerated (Amendment 9) bounds and boundaries.”

“In all cases, the Right to common Law Remedy, where the Common Law is competent to give it, shall also have Exclusive Original (Jurisdiction) of all suits for penalties and forfeitures incurred, under the Laws of the United States (Government Incorporated) 1 Statute 77, Section 9(a)” The Common Law Court being The Supreme Court for the People is superior to the Admiralty Federal Court’s/Appellate Court’s:
Article I, Section 8 states that Congress shall have power “To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court.”

persistancepays said...

http://www.naturalnews.com/z050816_Tianjin_explosion_space-based_weapons_military_retaliation.html


china devals currency 3% and da zonist batards bankers blow a crater in tianjin


hint to zonist batards: ya really dont wanna wake up the pandabear. now yo no dat retailation is cummin back at ya.

zonist batards

mogel007 said...

Link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/3512

44 U.S. Code § 3512 - Public protection

(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply with a collection of information that is subject to this subchapter if—
(1) the collection of information does not display a valid control number assigned by the Director in accordance with this subchapter; or
(2) the agency fails to inform the person who is to respond to the collection of information that such person is not required to respond to the collection of information unless it displays a valid control number.
(b) The protection provided by this section may be raised in the form of a complete defense, bar, or otherwise at any time during the agency administrative process or judicial action applicable thereto.

mogel007 said...

Judge Alsup's oath of office does not have an OMB control number on it, which is mandated, so his oath of office is a fraud or forgery and incomplete and not authenticated by law making his oath of office unenforceable and his rulings void.

http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.refused.jpg

Without their credentials, these rogue judges are guilty of all kinds of crimes, including mail fraud, obstruction of justice, witness retaliation, conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering, and more. Title 42 Section 1986 says if they fail to correct these defects, the judges become civilly liable. Without the paperwork being in order, the Judge has no jurisdiction. Sending counterfeit documents constitutes mail fraud, which is a felony.
Stump v. Sparkman, which says if a Federal judge doesn't have jurisdiction, he or she is personally liable to all the parties.

The criminal trial against Scott and Kurt was a sham because the DOJ is chartered to represent the "United States", and has no authority to represent any private corporation chartered in the 50 states, like the banks interests.

Link for below law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/12/506.1

§ 506.1 OMB control numbers assigned pursuant to the Paperwork Reduction Act.
(a) Purpose. This part collects and displays the control numbers assigned to information collection requirements contained in regulations of the Office of Thrift Supervision by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) pursuant to the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995, Pub. L. 104-13, 109 Stat. 163, and is adopted in compliance with the requirements of 5 CFR 1320.8. Information collection requirements that are not mandated by statute must be assigned control numbers by OMB in order to be enforceable. Respondents/record keepers are not required to comply with any collection of information unless it displays a currently valid OMB control number.

No OMB number here: on 1st required oath:
http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/affidavit.gif

No OMB number here on 2nd required oath:
http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/oath.gif

There's a famous tax case that a person beat and the IRS dropped his tax liability because he brought up the need for OMB numbers on the documents saying a tax was due. The OMB number gives the authority cite for the paperwork.

Judge Alsup's certificate of oath should be indorsed on his license and it isn't, which means he is in violation of CA sections 6126, and 6128 of the California Business & Profession Code. Also see 4 U.S.C. 101 This means he is not in good member in good standing of the State Bar of CA. See Section 6002
http://supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/nad.certificate.htm

mogel007 said...

There's no oath that Judge Alsup took to support the Constitution of the State of California as affirmed by my letter from the Secretary of the State of California. This oath is required too:

http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/alsup.william/nad.certificate.htm

Section 6067 of the California Business and Professions Code reads as follows:

Every person on his admission shall take an oath to support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, and faithfully to discharge the duties of any attorney at law to the best of his knowledge and ability. A certificate of the oath shall be indorsed upon his license.

mogel007 said...

Paul Mitchell talks about how judges don't have proper oaths of office recorded here and what that means:

http://scannedretina.com/2014/03/07/paul-andrew-mitchell-political-prisoner/

He was arrested in March 2014, and spent almost a year in prison for obstruction of justice and helping people avoid paying taxes, and was later released this year and charges against him dropped.. See his indictment:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/207940516/Paul-Andrew-Mitchell-indicted

Apparently the truth is that the court didn't want a record about Judges not having valid oaths of office recorded and proven on the record, so they dismissed all the charges against him, but came up with the excuse he was incompetent to stand trial and dismissed all charges against him. How likely is the prosecutions reason to dismiss charges remotely true? Very unlikely:

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2015/02/05/news/20local_02-05-15.txt#.VdPXb7XMCpM

OMO said...

No OMB numbers mentioned here:

Article. VI.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

mogel007 said...

That has nothing to do with OMB numbers

mogel007 said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
mogel007 said...

The paper reduction act came later which required OMB numbers on government documents in order to authenticate them or cite their authority. This requirement was adopted in 1995. When was article VI instituted? Before 1995 right? Before OMB numbers came on the scene as a requirement.

Information collection requirements that are not mandated by statute must be assigned control numbers by OMB in order to be enforceable. Respondents/record keepers are not required to comply with any collection of information unless it displays a currently valid OMB control number.

mogel007 said...

See link: http://www.givemeliberty.org/rtp2/updates/update2006-06-09.htm

Any information collection form, such as IRS Form 1040, which lacks bona fide statutory authority or which conflicts with the Constitution, cannot be issued an OMB control number. If a control number were issued for such a form, the form would be invalid and of no force and effect.

Under the facts and circumstances of the last 24 years, it is safe to say that IRS Form 1040 is a fraudulent, counterfeit, bootleg form. A guy won his case with that argument and the IRS went away frustrated.

It would also stand to reason that the "oath of office" is a bootleg, counterfeit form as you asserted as it's not the right oath of office since it's to the wrong Constitution. That might explain why the OMB number is not there.

The main point being made is that an OMB number authenticates the form or oath as legally mandated by the Paper Reduction Act.

If you are correct that these public officials are making an oath to the wrong constitution, then, depose them and have them admit that. Or maybe they are thinking they are defending the original constitution when they take their oaths? I don't know. It's all in your intent, and your knowledge, is is not? Alot of people think that the United States can do no wrong and will defend it without thinking. If Judges are making an oath to a defacto government/constitution, that's sedition. If they made an oath to the original constitution and agreed to defend it, and have not, that's also sedition. Either way, they are toast.

OMO said...

"It would also stand to reason that the "oath of office" is a bootleg, counterfeit form as you asserted as it's not the right oath of office since it's to the wrong Constitution. That might explain why the OMB number is not there."

I don't see the point in OMB numbers. IRS forms have never been approved by Congress and putting OMB numbers on them are not going to make them legal. Same for the oaths. The form and content of the oaths have been approved by the defacto government (per the U.S. Code) and putting OMB numbers on them is not going to make them authentic no matter how hard you try.

OMO said...

The form and content of the oaths have been approved by the defacto Congress (per the U.S. Code) and putting OMB numbers on them is not going to make them authentic (constitutional) no matter how hard you try.

mogel007 said...

Point is if the government doesn't follow their code, like the Paper Reduction Act, including OMB numbers on their forms, their forms are invalid. I'm not trying to legitimize the US Code.

OMO said...

Their forms are invalid to begin with. No PRA can make them valid. Why should they follow a defacto U.S. code?

OMO said...

The only thing those codes are doing is covering up the fraud. That's the purpose of code. To hide, to cover, to obscure, to obfuscate. What do the Statutes at Large say about oaths? I suspect that even Statutes at large point to the wrong the Constitution.

mogel007 said...

You said: "IRS forms have never been approved by Congress and putting OMB numbers on them are not going to make them legal."

You mean "lawful"?

mogel007 said...

Intent is paramount.

Do you think most public officials, even most Judges believe that they are making an oath to a defacto government? Where's the evidence of that? Do you believe that most police officers believe that they are making an oath to a defacto government that is in opposition to the real US & original Constitution?

mogel007 said...

You want to color all statutes as bad, as covering up some fraud. Isn't that too general and simply not true since common law (God's law) must be applied?

Affiant has no record or evidence that ALL COURTS, JUDGES, OTHER OFFICERS AND AGENTS, AND THE INTERPRETATIONS THEREOF are not to be done in accordance with Common Law Rules, as per quotes found in EXHIBIT 087 - NOTICE TO INVOKE COMMON LAW.

ADMIT - Libellees listed in this document admit to the truth and responsibility that all translations and interpretations of law are to be done in accordance with Common Law Rules.

EXHIBIT 087 - NOTICE TO INVOKE COMMON LAW
"The Constitution is to be interpreted according to Common Law Rules." -- Schick vs. U.S., 195 US 65, 24 Sup. Ct. 826, 49 L. Ed. 99

"...a Statute will not be construed so as to overrule a principle of established Common Law, unless it is made plain by the act that such a change in the established law is intended." -- Starkey Construction Inc. vs. Elcon, Inc., 248 Ark 958, 978A, 457 SW 2nd 509, 7 U.C.C.RS 923

"A statute should be construed in harmony with the Common Law unless there is a clear legislative intent to abrogate the Common Law." --United Bank vs. Mesa Nelson Co., 121 Ariz 438, 590 P2d 1384, 25 U.C.C.RS 1113

"The Constitution is to be construed with respect to the law existing at the time of it's adoption and as securing to the individual citizen the rights inherited by him under English Law, and not with reference to new guarantees." --Mattox vs. U.S., 156 US 237, 15 Sup Ct. 337, 39 L. Ed. 409

"It [U.S. Constitution] must be interpreted in the light of Common Law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution. The language of the Constitution could not be understood without reference to the Common Law." -- U.S. vs. Wong Kim, Ark, 169 US 649, 18 S. Ct. 456

U.S. adopted Common laws of England with the Constitution. Caldwell vs. Hill, 178 SE 383 (1934).
To be that statutes which would deprive a citizen of the rights of person or property without a regular trial, according to the course and usage of common law, would not be the law of the land. (Jury) Hoke v. Henderson, 15, N.C. 15 25 AM Dec 677.
"The phrase 'common law' found in this clause, is used in contradistinction to equity, and admiralty, and maritime jurisprudence." Parsons v. Bedford, et al, 3 Pet 433, 478-9.
Definition of Contradistinction: Distinction by contrasting or opposing qualities.
"If the common law can try the cause, and give full redress, that alone takes away the admiralty jurisdiction." Ramsey v. Allegrie, supra, p. 411.
Inferior Courts - The term may denote any court subordinate to the chief tribunal in the particular judicial system; but it is commonly used as the designation of a court of special, limited, or statutory jurisdiction, whose record must show the existence and attaching of jurisdiction in any given case, in order to give presumptive validity to its judgment. In re Heard’s Guardianship, 174 Miss. 37, 163, So. 685.
The high Courts have further decreed, that Want of Jurisdiction makes “...all acts of judges, magistrates, U.S. Marshals, sheriffs, local police, all void and not just voidable.” Nestor v. Hershey, 425 F2d 504.

mogel007 said...

Void Judgment - “One which has no legal force or effect, invality of which may be asserted by any person whose rights are affected at any time and at any place directly or collaterally. Reynolds v. Volunteer State Life Ins. Co., Tex.Civ.App., 80 S.W.2d 1087, 1092.
Voidable Judgment - “One apparently valid, but in truth wanting in some material respect.” City of Lufkin v. McVicker, Tex.Civ.App., 510 S.W. 2d 141, 144.

"The common law is not a brooding omnipresence in the sky but the articulate voice of some sovereign or quasi sovereign that can be identified..."
HOLMES, J., (dissenting), Southern Pacific Co. v. Jensen (1917) 244 US 205, 222, 61 LEd 1086, 1101, 37 S Ct 524

Government / Public Servants / Officers / Judges Not Immune from suit!
"Immunity fosters neglect and breeds irresponsibility while liability promotes care and caution, which caution and care is owed by the government to its people." (Civil Rights) (Rabon vs Rowen Memorial Hospital, Inc. 269 N.S. 1, 13, 152 SE 1 d 485, 493
Government Immunity - “In Land v. Dollar, 338 US 731 (1947), the court noted, “that when the government entered into a commercial field of activity, it left immunity behind.” Brady v. Roosevelt, 317 US 575 (1943); FHA v. Burr, 309 US 242 (1940); Kiefer v. RFC, 306 US 381 (1939).
The high Courts, through their citations of authority, have frequently declared, that “...where any state proceeds against a private individual in a judicial forum it is well settled that the state, county, municipality, etc. waives any immunity to counters, cross claims and complaints, by direct or collateral means regarding the matters involved.” Luckenback v. The Thekla, 295 F 1020, 226 Us 328; Lyders v. Lund, 32 F2d 308;
“When enforcing mere statutes, judges of all courts do not act judicially (and thus are not protected by “qualified” or “limited immunity,” - SEE: Owen v. City, 445 U.S. 662; Bothke v. Terry, 713 F2d 1404) - - “but merely act as an extension as an agent for the involved agency -- but only in a “ministerial” and not a “discretionary capacity...” Thompson v. Smith, 154 S.E. 579, 583; Keller v. P.E., 261 US 428; F.R.C. v. G.E., 281, U.S. 464. [and they say there is no conflict of interest]

mogel007 said...

Immunity for judges does not extend to acts which are clearly outside of their jurisdiction. Bauers v. Heisel, C.A. N.J. 1966, 361 F.2d 581, Cert. Den. 87 S.Ct. 1367, 386 U.S. 1021, 18 L.Ed. 2d 457 (see also Muller v. Wachtel, D.C.N.Y. 1972, 345 F.Supp. 160; Rhodes v. Houston, D.C. Nebr. 1962, 202 F.Supp. 624 affirmed 309 F.2d 959, Cert. den 83 St. 724, 372 U.S. 909, 9 L.Ed. 719, Cert. Den 83 S.Ct. 1282, 383 U.S. 971, 16 L.Ed. 2nd 311, Motion denied 285 F.Supp. 546).
"Judges not only can be sued over their official acts, but could be held liable for injunctive and declaratory relief and attorney's fees." Lezama v. Justice Court, A025829.

“Exclusive admiralty jurisdiction of federal courts under 28 USCS § 1333 is limited to maritime causes of action begun and carried on in rem, while under "saving to suitors" clause of § 1333, suitor who holds in personam claim that might be enforced by suit in personam under admiralty jurisdiction of federal courts may also bring suit, at his election, in state court or on "common law" side of federal court. Lavergne v Western Co. of North America, Inc. (La) 371 So 2d 807 (superseded on other grounds by statute as stated in Cramer v Association Life Ins. Co. (La App 1st Cir) 1990 La App LEXIS 1937).” 2 Am Jur 2d ADMIRALTY §122 (Footnote 9) (emphasis added).
"The immunity of judges for acts within their judicial role is beyond cavil." Pierson v. Ray, 386 U.S. 547 (1957).

persistancepays said...

"Judges not only can be sued over their official acts, but could be held liable for injunctive and declaratory relief and attorney's fees." Lezama v. Justice Court, A025829.


*and now can face a War Crims Turbanal for Crimes against Humanatee, per da Poopes IN MOTU PROPRIO.

OMO said...

"Do you think most public officials, even most Judges believe that they are making an oath to a defacto government? Where's the evidence of that? Do you believe that most police officers believe that they are making an oath to a defacto government that is in opposition to the real US & original Constitution?"

The burden of proof is on them. Just ask any judge for his /her oath which supports the original document. There's your answer. Watch them squirm.

OMO said...

I once did ask a police officer that very question. He knew exactly what I was talking about. You should have seen the expression on his face. It was like, lady, are you crazy. lol

OMO said...

3:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQR4t8cVlU

"There is in Italy a power which we seldom mention in this House, but without considering and understanding which we shall never rightly comprehend the position of Italy--I mean the secret societies. The secret societies do not care for constitutional government. They do not want existing society to be ameliorated, they want it changed.

It is useless to deny because it is impossible to conceal, that a great part of Europe--the whole of Italy and France and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries--are covered with a network of these secret societies. " Benjamin Disreali

mogel007 said...

I don't think most public officials believe they are making an oath to a defacto government.

The oath could also just as easily be interpreted where it says "Constitution" that it means what most people believe it means, which is allegiance to the Original Constitution framed by the forefathers in 1787.

Is the oath possibly confusing? In light of what you brought up, the answer is yes, but contracts are interpreted according to intent and what people mean and what the contract means.

I think it could be easily argued that the intent of the oath is referring to the original constitution & I believe most people would agree on that point.

And I don't see people arguing with that, as if they do, they are admitting defending a defacto government and committing sedition, so why would a public official ever admit that knowingly or unknowingly. It makes no sense. I would venture to say 95% of public officials don't even realize that there are two Constitutions.

mogel007 said...

I don't find police officers all that schooled in this type of stuff. Most think they can arrest you for any reason and that they are following the law.

Maybe you misinterpreted the knowledge of that police officer. I think he probably thought you were crazy.

OMO said...

"Maybe you misinterpreted the knowledge of that police officer. I think he probably thought you were crazy."


No, I didn't misinterpret. He knew what I was saying. You had to be there. What I told him went over his head at first.. but after a few milliseconds it downed on him.. then, the priceless expression.

OMO said...

"I don't think most public officials believe they are making an oath to a defacto government."

I don't care what they believe. Ask them to prove it. Due to their ignorance they can't prove it, but that doesn't excuse them. If you ask any judge for his oath supporting the original document you will most likely be ignored--

Dr. Caligari said...

So have Kurt and Scott been released yet?

OMO said...

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Isn't that the maxim they use against us? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

OMO said...


"So have Kurt and Scott been released yet?"

Why are you asking a question you already know the answer to?

OMO said...

If you ask any judge for his oath supporting the original document you will most likely be ignored, because judges know... they know what you want... they know what you're looking for ... they know! So you will be ignored and in some cases, taken to jail for contempt.

persistancepays said...

wit all to respict, can we please cover sum noo ground. we bin sowing on about 'oats' for quiet sum tims now, we kneed to cuva sum noo grind. ho take oats, ho dun take oats, fake oats, real oats. thx

OMO said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
«Oldest ‹Older   1601 – 1800 of 4870   Newer› Newest»