Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

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persistancepays said...

something BIG will be going down.

persistancepays said...

courts do not retain docs for an indefinite time.

id be surprised if they kept them for more than a week nowadays.

this isnt 1849 wehn the court only had maybe a case a week

persistancepays said...

interesting post on hansen that actually references thsi blog:

thedoreangroup.blogspot.com/.../could-dorean-be-divine-interruptio...Cached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Jul 9, 2007 - 2005) 2003 Tex. App. LEXIS 5656, * JAMES ALCORN AND TODD ALLEN, Appellants v. .... Mr. Hansen claims that he has a 3 TRILLION dollar UCC judgment against major ... many lawyers & felons, & other corporations like Porsche. ... Notice of Judgment Lien Release or Subordination filed on 6-08- 2007: ...
UCC IT Service on Veengle


it must have been one of mongrels post ;-)

persistancepays said...


Jan 27 2018 02:06:14
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: bc342e
175260
>>175139

FALSE IMPRISONMENT


https://qcodefag.github.io/data/images/5113674fc5f6d72bd94991bd733d2722722cae9c12274180dedfe983e74a0cc1.jpeg

Select news members / journalists are vital to delivering the message (as are YOU).
Imagine if these people were removed.
Total control re: MSM.
They represent a clear and present danger to the enemy.
Re-read past crumbs re: security.
Where is JS?
How do we truly protect those important to us?
[19] immediates [no longer with us].
Self-suicide if actioned.
Real life.
Q

persistancepays said...

Doc 108 is Denial of Exparte Motion

What does ex parte mean in a court case?

Ex parte /ˌɛks ˈpɑːrtiː/ is a Latin legal term meaning “from (by or for) [the/a] party.” An ex parte decision is one decided by a judge without requiring all of the parties to the controversy to be present.





judge just started his unlawful trickery.

denial of ex parte motion

judge can just "do stuff" when all parties are not there.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

close yo eyes and then i works my magick!!!!

waht yo dun see dun hurt yo!!!

persistancepays said...

in fact, why dun yo all jus goes home and i can finish dis case reel quicks!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

itll be ova beffo yo no it!!!!

like it neva even started!!!

yo alread no ho its gonna end anyays!!

Dr. Caligari said...

Ex parte /ˌɛks ˈpɑːrtiː/ is a Latin legal term meaning “from (by or for) [the/a] party.” An ex parte decision is one decided by a judge without requiring all of the parties to the controversy to be present.


In many courts today, the words "ex parte motion" have a different meaning: a motion which the moving party asks that the time for responding to the motion be shortened from the usual time. Judges typically deny ex parte motions unless there is a real emergency, preferring that motions be heard on the usual schedule.

persistancepays said...

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/174ee583a39e8a52c95e87677bedac0097b5771e0396519770e8a7f257d3030e.png

persistancepays said...

looks like that latest MEMO is starting to take bites!!!


It Hits The Fan! FBI Director Christopher Wray Reads FISA Abuse Memo On Sunday And Suddenly Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Gone The Next Day

Dr. Caligari said...

And this will help Tucci-Jarraf exactly how?

persistancepays said...

????

never said that its going to help heather. but its going to 'clean house' slowly but surely which is a good thing

persistancepays said...

gotta start by cleaning up the house with embedded criminals and put good ppl there. the country is sick and tired of being run by criminals, whether in the govt. or outside of it. if it were up to me, i would just take them outside and execute them. period.

persistancepays said...

sick of govt. criminals, sick of child molesters, sick of scumbag drug addicts, get rid of all of them. they are all useless pieces of shit anyway.

persistancepays said...

When the United States as the seller is shipping property to a buyer or when the United States has property shipped to it for purchase, the status of the property in transit is determined by the contract and the application of the Uniform Commercial Code. Cf. Heath v. United States, 209 F.2d 318 (9th Cir. 1954); Clark v. United States, 258 F. 437 (3d Cir. 1919). It should be noted, however, that section 641 also protects property “made or being made under contract for the United States.” See this Manual at 1662. Therefore, theft of property made under contract for the United States is punishable under this section without regard to title or custody.
[cited in USAM 9-66.200]

Form 1099–OID – Original Issue Discount click here to download the for directly
http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/f1099oid-2.pdf

persistancepays said...

Instructions for Recipient

Original issue discount (OID) is the excess of an obligation’s stated redemption
price at maturity over its issue price (acquisition price for a stripped bond or
coupon). OID on a taxable obligation is taxable as interest over the life of the
obligation. If you are the holder of a taxable OID obligation, generally you must
include an amount of OID in your gross income each year you hold the
obligation. Obligations that may have OID include a bond, debenture, note,
certificate, or other evidence of indebtedness having a term of more than 1 year.
For example, the OID rules may apply to certificates of deposit (CDs), time
deposits, bonus savings plans, and other deposit arrangements, especially if the
payment of interest is deferred until maturity. In addition, the OID rules apply to
Treasury inflation-protected securities. See Pub. 550 for more information

persistancepays said...

isnt that what some guy did to a judge that he didnt like?

he just filled a 1099-OID with the irs and then the irs was chasing the judge for like $100,000,000,000 so in effect the judge had $10MM of phantom taxable income that he had to pay tax on.

i lost track of this case but i dint forget it.

mogel007 said...

How does this help Heather? Not really sure how to answer that, however, if rumors are true, then this "shake down" affects about 10,000 criminals, that are supposedly suppose to be indicted, arrested, and later put in GITMO and there will be alot of military type trials going on, much like what happened after World War II against key Nazi's (remember the Neurenburg trials?); not just only against a few in the government and in the FBI according to those who have illegally spied on Trump; it goes really deep into all aspects of the government and into the "Deep State" as they call it; if you believe all of the rumors, so we will just have to wait and see how it affects Heather's trial if at all. These things will start to come to a head in February 2018 if you believe the rumors. Supposedly this is all part of "draining the swamp" according to Trumps promise to do so. These rumors are based upon alot of evidence, millions of documented pages, that has already been given to certain key government officials which they have been going through and studying for a few weeks now in the very least. Some have already said, it's much bigger than "Watergate" in it's implications. At any rate, there are alot of people in the "Deep State" scared and running for the hills because they are no longer protected by the corrupt FBI or the corrupt Justice Department. I also suspect as these things start to happen, you will get even more bad press against Trump and even more outlandish accusations against him. There might even be another "crisis" next month like the missle attack in Hawaii that took place or possibly even an attack on his life. If you believe the rumors, there was an actual missle that was launched, and the US actually took the missle out of the sky and that's why the notice went out to Hawaii of a real attack. Everyone from North Korea to China was blamed for causing this attack, and the public is not being told the full story and as usual we are being lied to; false news as Trump says. The story that someone falsely pushed the wrong button is nonsense that caused everyone in Hawaii to panic for an hour and take cover. Who really wants to believe that coca maney story? The story is false because you will never have the press tell you the name of the person that supposedly pushed the wrong button; that's how I know it's bullshit.

persistancepays said...

i also heard that the supposed 'flase attack' on how are ye? was caused by aleins flying around the atmosphere that they could not ID positively so they threw up their hands and pressed the duck and cover attack panic button.

i guess that right now anything is possible from a real nook attack to alein spaceships which some ppl swear that you can see ufo wars in the sky if you buy a pair of nigh vision infra red binocs. there is a war going on in heaven. this could just be?

persistancepays said...

a lot of this stuff is covered in george noorys coast to coast radio show which i like to lsiten to or even the groundzero.com radio show with clyde lewis on at night

persistancepays said...

wonder how the 'alledged' court case is gong??

oh, forgot!! its not a reel case, only on tv!! LOLL!

something good is going to come out of that i case, i can sense it!!

that heather is one smart chick!!

i wanna marry a chick that knows more about thse kinds of things than i do

tdas, hypothecation, 1099OIDs, a4v, etc, etc, mortgage challenges, etc, fractionaly banking, ok maybe for her as shes a woman, it would be fractional baking... LOLLOL!!!

persistancepays said...

WOW!! as i write this the stock market is getting socked!!

DOW is down 354 pts!!!

persistancepays said...

and bitcoins are getting hammered too!!

broke below $10K per btc!!

mogel007 said...

Am I the only one that thinks this is suspicious? You hear the words, "this is a drill", and you think this is the real thing? Not likely:

Three day-shift warning officers listened to the recording on speakerphone and one of them "believed that the missile threat was real" and issued a live alert at 8:07 am after hearing the sentence "This is not a drill," it said.

Then you have this nonsense that this mystery person can't be interview, named, or found that supposedly started the whole thing:

"Because we've not been able to interview the day shift warning officer who transmitted the false alert, we're not in a position to fully evaluate the credibility of their assertion that they believed there was an actual missile threat and intentionally sent the live alert (as opposed to believing that it was a drill and accidentally sending out the live alert)," it added.

Yep, the WHOLE STORY IS A CROCK OF SHIT.

mogel007 said...

Then at the end of the article, it says, "in the future we will have more than one person assessing the legitimacy of the alert before any buttons can be pushed."

They couldn't figure that out until now as the best policy?

That's like giving only one person the ability to set off a nuclear bomb with no safeguards.
Do you really believe only one person has ever had that power alone with no safeguards?

So these are the people handling the Emergency Alert Systems with these stupid policies giving such power only to one person?

I sincerely doubt the story. It shocks the reasonable mind. It's not even a good lie as it causes too many questions. A good lie is where you have little or no questions to the lie.
The story we are being spoon fed leaves too many unanswered questions.

mogel007 said...

A 1.5% drop in the stock market is nothing! I wouldn't even term that a bad day. That's not even enough to make it a correction.
A 10-15% drop in a cryptocurrency you own, like today, probably is a real bad day, but still not enough to take you out of the speculation of it all. It appears that the cryptocurrencies as a whole are mostly near a bottom at this point. Would be a good time to buy now if you got the gumption and money to do so. Hit it hard when most everyone is panicking. About 300 Billion has been lost in capitalization in the last month I believe. I don't see it getting much worse in the short term as long as there is no more extremely bad news. They are saying Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Hello?????? The US Dollar is a ponzi scheme too. It's just better ran and is more accepted. That's the only difference.

mogel007 said...

Bitcoin fell below $10,000? Really? That's something to be shocked about?
I should have gone into debt and bought as much Bicoin as I could when it was around $400. I had some for a while, around that price, but someone hacked my account and so I got out for a couple years. Bad move on my part. I should have gotten right back in and learned more about account security.

mogel007 said...

"Officials revealed that the employee who sent the alert was fired Friday. His name has not been revealed. A second worker quit before disciplinary action was taken, and another was being suspended without pay, officials said."

Of course his name won't be revealed, for if it was, we could get the real truth.

mogel007 said...

"Gov. David Ige came under criticism over the delay and he later said that he couldn't hop on Twitter because he forgot his password."

Really? He couldn't spend a minute to change his password assuming you believe he forgot it and still be able to log on to Twitter?

Is almost everyone inept in the Emergency Management System in Hawaii? Is that what we are suppose to believe?

All I hear is one excuse after another in this story.

Maybe the governor is in on this conspiracy too.

mogel007 said...

"A federal investigation found that the employee believed there “was a real emergency, not a drill.” That directly contradicts earlier explanations from Hawaii officials, who have said the alert was sent when an employee accidentally hit the wrong button on a computer drop-down menu. A state investigation released Tuesday found that the emergency message was followed by a lengthy period of confusion, during which authorities didn't immediately know how to correct the alert though they knew it to be false, leaving the public unaware that there was no real emergency underway."

Already the government is trying to cover their previous outright lies.

mogel007 said...

Let me see, let me correct the situation by getting on my Twitter account and notify everyone that this is all a mistake.

Oh no, I can't do that, I forgot my Twitter account password. LOL

Maybe the governor should have had his closest associate Twitter Donald Trump. I hear he's real good with Twitter and has a great following, even in Hawaii. LOL

mogel007 said...

Course maybe I'm just a little smarter than the governor. Course then again the governor assures everyone that this won't ever happen again, but no promises whether he'll remember his new password on Twitter. :O)

mogel007 said...

Hey governor, here's a suggestion for your new password on Twitter so you don't forget it the next time you want a false alert to last 40 minutes:

Ballistic Missle

Course then again, maybe you're just as stupid as the guy that caused all of this and was recently fired for mistaking a drill for the real thing, even though it was heard 5 times by him and everyone else: "This is a drill", "This is a drill", "This is a drill", "This is a drill", "This is a drill".

Then again if we read the news, we have to also believe that this guy that pushed a false alert had A LONG HISTORY OF YEARS OF PROBLEMS WITH THE HAWAII ALERT SYSTEM, HIS EMPLOYER.

Really? And he wasn't fired until now, but was only reassigned another job somewhere else where he couldn't push a false alarm again?

Yea, let's reward this crazy employee and send him somewhere else where other people can appreciate how crazy he is and unable to follow even the simplest of instructions.

Maybe he can go work for the governor to help him remember his password on Twitter?

OMO said...

Ron Paul on the fractional reserve banking system:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfyo7cUevwY&feature=share

1:07 And we are dependent on the creation of money out of thin air which is nothing more than debasement of the currency. It's counterfeit and it is a natural and predictable consequence that you're going to have people benefit from it and other people suffer.

OMO said...

http://monetizecolb.org

choose one:

1) fractionated 2) hypothecated 3) compounded 4) kept and you will never see it again


___________________________

I guess they are trying to turn the tables so-to-speak, to the benefit of the suffering, or the not-so-well off. More FRNS flooding the system.

persistancepays said...

Yep, the WHOLE STORY IS A CROCK OF SHIT.

agreed. i dont know what really happened with that, but i do know that the 'official' story is a bunch of BS

persistancepays said...

http://monetizecolb.org

choose one:

1) fractionated 2) hypothecated 3) compounded 4) kept and you will never see it again


the problem with these "programs" is that they have been offered many times before and many decades ago for the avg. person to get into, too many to even count, and at the end of the day, noone has ever gotten paid and everyone has lost their 'inital investment'

the programs are very real i beleive, as 'hypothecation/fractionation is very real, as this is how the fiat system works, but in order to get into them, you must be 'entered' into the club, and the only way into the 'club' is probably by witnessing, if not having to outright particpate in something like child sex abuse so that if you ever decide to blow the whistle, they got something on you that will also incriminate yourself.

persistancepays said...

oh and another theory, is that it was some kind of missile that was incoming and that benevolent aleins shot it out of the sky.

there is some blog post writer out there who claims to have 'communed' with alein beings who have told him that there will be no nook war or otherwise and that they would personally intervene to stop any types of nook attack and stop it themselves before it reached its destination. all nook weapons are disarmed but the leaders of countries who have them do not know this

OMO said...

the programs are very real i beleive, as 'hypothecation/fractionation is very real, as this is how the fiat system works, but in order to get into them, you must be 'entered' into the club, and the only way into the 'club' is probably by witnessing, if not having to outright particpate in something like child sex abuse so that if you ever decide to blow the whistle, they got something on you that will also incriminate yourself.
____________________________

well, it's not, as you say, a club, as most people that joined could give one wit about anything but getting paid, as there doesn't seem to be any other way out of our state-sponsored social security tracking system. You do have to educate yourself though... but just don't look for any remedy in their laws to help you.

persistancepays said...

"well, it's not, as you say, a club

in fact it is a club. no anyone whos joined lately? whats does wanting to get paid have anything to do with joining the club?? the ppl who run the 'club' could care less that you want to get paid, all they care about is not getting caught/prosecuted for what they are doing and getting you to sell you soul to the devil is their surety for that.
-----------------------------------------

i do believe that shortly however, these programs will be real as thier is no ways else to keep the bnaking system afloat. the debt has long since been too great to keep from collapsing on itself. so these 'HYPEthication' programs will trickle down to the avg person without him having to rape children or be a witness to it to invest

persistancepays said...

an on heathers front:

A quick court update
published on TerranCognito, on Wednesday January 24, 2018

1.24.18 Tuesday notes:

Heather has not given consent nor jurisdiction to the court in Knoxville. Neither has Randy.

However the judge did proceed to pick the jurors and begin a trial.

The judge struck Heather’s new Praecipe, Heather wrote another one by hand in court and filed it.

The prosecution tried to reassert (monetize) the rejected indictment “true bill” by issuing an amendment which was rejected by Heather and filed.

Courts are banks and issue bonds against the inbodyment, which eventually get charged against the so called “fictious” Treasury Deposit Accounts (TDA) of the individual charged, which is probably the great irony of this whole case. That which is said not to exist is what funds the trial of a man accused of accessing the TDA. Fingerprints and photos are the biometrics required by banks to monetize court bonds. Indictments are like writing a check against yourself.

Our banking system consists of registrants (human chattel property as capital) and agents/brokers. The registrants (you and I) are not given access to the value but the brokers (financial firms, utilities, courts, major hospitals, for-profit prisons) have unpublicized access for which they charge interest for money not at risk by them.

In the case of central banks who hold these registrants value captive, they’ve arranged treaties with their host countries that give them effectively a kind of diplomatic immunity against law enforcement (which is why when trillions was stolen in 2008 no Federal Reserve member banker went to jail). Yet the banks are freely able to get the FBI to act on their behalf with little or no proof a crime took place.

persistancepays said...

"The judge struck Heather’s new Praecipe, Heather wrote another one by hand in court and filed it.



i predicted this 'merry go round' as much a week ago.

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...

judge presents docs to heather, heather marks em up and returns em to judge then...



any nun for a game of tennis????

persistancepays said...

"In the case of central banks who hold these registrants value captive, they’ve arranged ***treaties*** with their host countries that give them effectively a kind of diplomatic immunity against law enforcement (which is why when trillions was stolen in 2008 no Federal Reserve member banker went to jail). Yet the banks are freely able to get the FBI to act on their behalf with little or no proof a crime took place.

persistancepays said...

FBI Agent Parker Still, upon cross examination, was unable to define how he knew a crime took place and presented no criminal complaint from USAA bank, but represented he relied on an undisclosed email and an Internet IP address from the bank.

Agent Still was unable to explain what it was that made him determine would require a brutal Swat style assault takedown of a 50 something year old man in a very difficult to hide RV. When confronted by Randy as to why they were mocking him and laughing at the bloodied Randy when they passed him in the squad car, Parker admitted to laughing at Randy because “we took down a bad guy”. Parker did not verify that an outstanding warrant existed (it did not). His defense for this sloppiness was that “I work in a team”.

The explanation Parker offered as to why it would require a team of 8 or 9 officers to “pass out” Mr Beane (Parker Still’s choice of phrase for extracting Randy from the RV – chokehold?) was a vague reference to incidents of Muslim extremist mowing down people with large vehicles. None of those incidents was a large custom built luxury motor home. Randy is well known to be a Christian, and his father a preacher.

Parker Still’s bona fides claim he is a Jag Corps Officer in the Army National Guard, but could not recall whether he had held a military tribunal or even participated in one.

This court case is expected to run 4-6 days. I expect $400-500 a day in expenses for transcripts and related costs. If you can help by donating on the button to the right with the trees it would be of great help.

Jury selection transcript should be available today, more coming.

Late note was told further transcript would only come at end of trial

persistancepays said...

*****FBI Agent Parker Still, upon cross examination, was unable to define how he knew a crime took place and presented no criminal complaint from USAA bank, but represented he relied on an undisclosed email and an Internet IP address from the bank.

OMO said...

in fact it is a club. no anyone whos joined lately? whats does wanting to get paid have anything to do with joining the club?? the ppl who run the 'club' could care less that you want to get paid, all they care about is not getting caught/prosecuted for what they are doing and getting you to sell you soul to the devil is their surety for that.
_________________________


those who have joined are mainly from the patriot community--over 20,000 patriots-in-waiting from what I've read/heard. The way I look at it is if you have $500 to throw away, then gamble away. The entire monetary system is a gambling game.

OMO said...

Oh, and then there's the cost Trust you'll be required to pay for. Who knows how much that will be. No debit cards will be issued without a Trust. Dorean's Trust was $3,000 if I remember correctly. I could be wrong on that. How many of those $20,000+ patriots will be able to afford even a $1,000 Trust. I've put a question in on their facebook page regarding the cost of the Trust. Maybe it's been answered before...

persistancepays said...

the dg 'trust' cost $4000

im sure some have paid less.

OMO said...

from one of their documents:


One of the questions, which is unnecessary; Oh, I want this name on the debit card.
Look,you already know we have told you this from day one, that you're gonna have a
Master Trust, although you haven't paid for it yet. Alright? At the moment the funds are being accumulated in ONE Master Trust. Get it? ONE - O N E.

Now, when you're ready to afford to pay for the trust, the debit card will be issued in the name of the trust, that you choose - could be “The Walls of Jericho” , it could be “The Promised Land', it could be anything. Okay? So don't belabor the point. The name of the trust will be the name on the debit card will depend on the name of the trust. I'll tell you, why it will not be in your name? Because you won't be handle, you won't be able to handle the devil. But under trust law and because you made a contract with the trust, you and the trust based on the Supreme Law of the land in the United States Indian Country, no state shall impair the obligation of any contract. Article, Section 2 Supreme Law of the land. Get it into your
hands!



Oh, I can't remember. ”Well, REMEMBER IT!

You go to a bank and say; “Oh,I'm gonna send some money to my trust. I want some money to be sent for my trust”

And then moron there says, “Oh, you can't do that." Now, what are you gonna do
? “Let me talk to your supervisor." " No. You tell them;



I know the law. Bring me your counsel.



You don't want to talk to another moron and then who will talk to another idiot, will then ...

OMO said...

Answer: 5,000 if you buy today.

Answer: $40,000 after payout.

Me: Ok, I thought the trust could not be issued before payout.

Another answer:

Answer: Listen to the call last night. You don't have to have your own trust set up before payout begins, although it is a good idea to do so.

OMO said...

Read the last document in this link under the title "The Fine Art of Diaper Changing":

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s279w7gs2p1uuj5/AACl02Ym6LLML8CxlpPWyNHua/Videos_als_Text/ENGLISH?dl=0

persistancepays said...

IS THIS THE START OF 'PROSPERITY PROGRAMS'???



******* STOCKTON, CA TO START HANDING OUT 'FREE $$$' LATER THIS YEAR!!!

wheres bruly b@@l???

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Six Years After Bankruptcy, Stockton Is Preparing To Start Handing Out Free Money


Almost six years after a judge declared Stockton, Calif the most populous US municipality to ever declare bankruptcy, the city has struggled through a painful Chapter 9 restructuring, but its primarily agriculture-based economy remains mired in poverty.

As KQED News explains, Stockton residents are struggling with stagnant wages, rising home prices due to the city's proximity to Silicon Valley and a loss of middle class jobs - all against a backdrop of the looming threat of automation. The city first filed for bankruptcy in 2012.

The pervasive poverty in his city is what led Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs to announce last year that the city would soon begin an interesting social experiment.

Starting later this year, a random sample of 300,000 Stockton residents will receive $500 every month with no strings attached. The program is set to become the US's largest experiment with a policy that has become a favorite topic of Mark Zuckerberg and his Silicon Valley peers: Universal Basic Income.

UBI was famously first proposed by Richard Nixon as a way to soften the impact of post-industrial job losses. But the American left is increasingly discussing it as one method for curbing widening income inequality. Tubbs hopes to begin making payments as soon as August.

And as mayor, Tubbs says it's his duty to help Stocktonites lift themselves out of their dire circumstances.

"I feel that as mayor it’s my responsibility to do all I could to begin figuring out what’s the best way to make sure that folks in our community have a real economic floor," Tubbs said.

“I think Stockton is absolutely ground zero for a lot of the issues we are facing as a nation,” Tubbs said.

To the relief of Stockton's taxpayers (and lenders), the project is receiving private funds: Dorian Warren co-chairs the Economic Security Project, which is contributing $1 million to the initiative. He told KQED that the goal is to gather data on the economic and social impacts of giving people a basic income. In addition to tracking what residents do with the money, Warren said they will be monitoring how a basic income affects things like self-esteem and identity.

“What does it mean to say, ‘Here is unconditional guaranteed income just based on you being a human being?’ ” Warren asked.

COT'D

persistancepays said...

COT'D

The hope is to demonstrate UBI’s potential and encourage other cities to give it a try.

Michelle Anderson, a Stanford law professor, said Stockton may discover it gets more economic stimulus by giving money to its citizens rather than corporations it hopes will bring in jobs and tax revenue.

“The UBI that is being proposed in Stockton now is very small compared to the big corporate subsidies that cities like that engage in,” Anderson said.

However, nothing has been said about the fate of the experiment once private funding runs out: And there's probably a good reason for that.

As the city's mayor admits, Stockton has racked up millions in debt on development projects in the past.

“We’ve overspent on things like arenas and marinas and things of that sort to try to lure in tourism and dollars that way,” he said.

Tubbs thinks the UBI experiment will show that Stockton’s best bet is to invest in its own people.

But not everybody agrees.

* * *

In what he describes as a "radical critique of Universal Basic Income", Charles Hugh Smith explained in a post we published back in June how UBI - far from staving off widening income inequality - would instead lead to de facto "serfdom".

But a radical critique must go much, much further, and ask: is UBI the best that we can do? If we provide the basics of material security - the bottom level of Maslow's hierarchy of human needs - what about all the higher needs for positive social roles, meaningful work, and the opportunity to build capital?

This critique reveals the unintended consequences of UBI: rather than deliver a Utopia, UBI institutionalizes serfdom and a two-class neofeudalism in which the bottom 95% scrape by on UBI while the top 5% hoard what every human wants and needs: positive social roles in our community, meaningful work that makes us feel needed, and the opportunity to build capital in all its manifestations.

UBI is the last gasp of a broken, dying system, a "solution" that institutionalizes all the injustices of serfdom under the guise of aiding those left behind by automation. We can do better--we must do better--and I lay out how to do so in this book.

A radical critique must also examine the widely accepted assumption that automation will destroy most jobs. Is this assumption valid? It turns out this assumption rests on a completely false understanding of the nature of work, the economics of automation and the presumed stability of an unsustainable global economy.

persistancepays said...

Knoxville and a Deep State FBI Agent?

by Christian Alexander, published on Backroom Knox, on January 30, 2018

Trail Update:
Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf vs the United States of America
Knoxville, Tennessee

Is the Deep State in Knoxville Tennessee via FBI agent Parker Still? Is Mr. Still “fodder” or someone who was “used” by the Federal Reserve Bank in an operation involving “secret accounts” and $32 million in Certificate’s of Deposits?

Or are the defendants nuts, and they just found an age old scam along with 300,000 others exploiting the 2 day wait for ACH payments?

Mr. Still was called out in the courtroom today as an agent of the Federal Reserve, who let the “secret account” situation get out of hand, and that he and the FBI was used to harm the people, according to the Defendants testimony.

What will the Jury decide?

Regardless of what the Jury thinks, the Federal Reserve has been factually exposed to foreign and domestic attacks on the banking system. The vulnerabilities are still not patched today.

If you have a social security number, and the routing number of a federal reserve bank, you can get in. Testimony by the Federal Reserve Bank VP, said these attacks are ongoing.

The Co-Defendant Mr. Bean was able to get in. He was able to pay bills, buy a $90k truck and $900k RV. What if this was done by terrorist, or out of the country provacatours via automatic bots?

On another note:

I listened to Prosecution mention today that this agent’s family was doxxed, and I do not agree with that. The people who did that should be ashamed of themselves.

Getting at the truth is one thing, but going after the family and children is another.

Seek the truth….good….bad….or indifferent….
put your opinion to it…. but don’t doxx innocent people. And never use violence.

The Trial resumes tomorrow, and it could be the last day of the trial before the Jury gets rules.

All my opinions of course.

persistancepays said...

"Is the Deep State in Knoxville Tennessee via FBI agent Parker Still? Is Mr. Still “fodder” or someone who was “used” by the Federal Reserve Bank in an operation involving “secret accounts” and $32 million in Certificate’s of Deposits?



i dont know....but maybe jerry kane could have answered this question...course, we all know the 'deep state' took care of that 'problem' dint they???

always wondered why they went so hard after jerry kane and it was in tennessee.

i mean all this guy did was promote mortgage elimanation programs no different thand dozens of other ppl at the time. just chekc out youtube 'mortage elimatin' and you get all sort of video.

there was even a chinsense guy called tran, then you had all the privateaudio.com info etc, etc,

persistancepays said...

"If you have a social security number, and the routing number of a federal reserve bank, you can get in.

ok.

where do i $ign up? LOLOLLO!!

persistancepays said...

"I listened to Prosecution mention today that this agent’s family was doxxed, and I do not agree with that. The people who did that should be ashamed of themselves.



?????

can someone tell me what 'doxxed' means???

never heard of this before??

can i goggle it??

persistancepays said...

MY BAD!!

IT IS

MYPRIVATEAUDIO.COM


not privateaudio.com

persistancepays said...

even dan benham still posts there from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back!!

rember him?

persistancepays said...

i rember that i used to even listen to scam kennedy online shows

wasnt his real name tho but interesting stuff

persistancepays said...

Jerry Kane | Mortgage Fraud | When They Produce the Note

www.myprivateaudio.com/When-they-produce-the-note.html

There has been and always is a lot of talk about the banking having to produce the note. Well, sometimes they will be able to do this given enough time by the court. But as you see below that can be a very good thing if you know what you are looking for on it. Below are the arguments that can arise depending on what you find there:
First, even when produced there is still question as to who they are really producing it for:


Your honor, It has been better than x weeks since the plaintiff knew they would have to produce the original note.

I would ask clarification of the Court of opposing counsel, your honor, How long has the bank had it in their possession or how long has opposing counsel had it?

And Where did he get it from, your honor?

--equivocation--

Its possible in that length of time they could have borrowed or repurchased the original instrument from whoever owned it in order to bring it in here today.

I would ask the Court again of opposing counsel in clarification for the Court, Does he know for a fact that´s not what happened your honor?

In clarification for the Court, Your honor, I would ask the Court of opposing counsel can he swear under oath and penalty of perjury here today that at the time legal action based on the note was initiated by the plaintiff, they were in fact legal holders of the instrument with the right to enforce it and with standing to bring this action representing themselves?

--equivocation--

Your honor, I move for immediate dismissal of this case for failure of a competent fact witness put forward by the plaintiff they had personal jurisdiction and standing as legal holders of the debt to bring this action in their own name at the time this was done.

--denied-- move on--

Then we examine the note

Your honor, after examination of it there are some questions here, that when answered will likely end this [ case] [claim] in dismissal]

[[ and will certainly vacate [summary judgment]

--If note is not a blank endorsement--

First of all Your honor, this is not a blank endorsement at all giving rights of a holder strictly by possession.

(810 ILCS 5/3-205)states in section b) says, "If an indorsement is made by the holder of an instrument and it is not a special indorsement, it is a "blank indorsement". When indorsed in blank, an instrument becomes payable to bearer and may be negotiated by transfer of possession alone until specially indorsed.
But (a) says, " If ....the indorsement identifies a person to whom it makes the instrument payable, it is a "special indorsement". When specially indorsed, an instrument becomes payable to the identified person and may be negotiated only by the indorsement of that person.

The [[allonge to the]] note shows [[ name of bank]] clearly received the debt instruments from [[ name of other Bank]] This is a "special endorsement" by definition and now only [[ name of bank]] can endorse or enforce it as a holder. JP Morgan Chase is not that bank your honor. They have no standing to make claim in my bankruptcy in their own name or of any other than [[ name of bank]]

But that `s not in whose behalf the styling of the movant shows them to be acting your honor.

We move the Court to deny relief from stay and for immediate dismissal of this claim in this bankruptcy.

--note is a blank endorsement--

First of all Your honor, this is a blank endorsement giving rights of a holder strictly by possession.

persistancepays said...

810 ILCS 5/3-205) states in section(a) says, " If ....the endorsement identifies a person to whom it makes the instrument payable, it is a "special endorsement". When specially indorsed, an instrument becomes payable to the identified person and may be negotiated only by the indorsement of that person.

The court can see here there is no identified person it is endorsed to. The line is blank.

Section b) says, "If an endorsement is made by the holder of an instrument and it is not a special endorsement, it is a "blank endorsement". When endorsed in blank, an instrument becomes payable to bearer and may be negotiated by transfer of possession alone until specially indorsed. "
The note has not been specially endorsed to an identified entity so it is a blank endorsement that belongs to who ever has it and can be negotiated by whoever has it.

Right now J.P. Morgan Chase has it. The problem is JP Morgan Chase in this motion is merely servicing agent for another entity who also is only the Trustee for the actual party making claim as holder, which is WAMU Mortgage Pass Through Certificates Series 2006-PR3. This is not Washington Mutual who JP Morgan Chase took over.

Documents submitted into record From the Securities and Exchange Commission show such entities are specifically created investment vehicles that issues securities "backed" by mortgages which they must own to sell the securities.

Both the affidavit and the styling of the name of the movant acknowledge this is the beneficiary and true party in interest with the rights to have claim made in its name.

JP Morgan Chase has it. But Again, your honor, JP Morgan Chase is not the legal party in interest in this motion. It doesn´t matter what they hold in their own behalf. They must be holding it for the true party in interest they have acknowledged in the motion for either to have standing to be here the way the motion is now brought.

The debt instrument endorsed in blank and held by whoever has it right then, is meaningless as to standing in this case unless JP Morgan Chase can show the asset trust, who is actual party in interest they are acting for, holds assignment of the note so that they would be holders of it for them. And the affidavit nor the note changes or proves anything for them to move in this bankruptcy. If they would do so they must go back and bring the motion in their own legal behalf and not that of another since they are the holders of it.

But they can´t your honor because even though they have it and are the holders of it at this moment they are not the legal contractual assignees of it.

If JP Morgan Chase, or Wells Fargo Bank as trustee were either the legal assigns in their own right they would not have to acknowledge WAMU Mortgage Pass Through Certificates Series 2006-PR3 in the bankruptcy pleadings at all. But legally they have had to because by the admission of their pleadings JP Morgan Chase is not a party to anything but is merely servicing agent for Wells Fargo Bank who is still only the Trustee for the asset trust issuing entity, WAMU Mortgage Pass Through Certificates Series 2006-PR3.

But as we pointed out before, nothing has been provided showing WAMU Mortgage Pass Through Certificates Series 2006-PR3, who this motion has been brought for, has been granted assignment or is legal holder of the Mortgage, again, which is who the affiant and JP Morgan Chase acknowledges they are acting for.

persistancepays said...

Further, even if they could show this we find no filings for this Asset Trust with the SEC as may be required by law.

Merrill Lynch finds no Prospectus for this entity to exist available to the investing public raising serious question as to the legal existence of this alleged claimant if someone could prove they do hold my debt instruments.

Pursuant to California Code 1201, a holder in due course of such debt instruments must be existing as a real or legally created persons under the law.

The sale of the debt instruments to such an entity that does not so exist under the laws of some state or the federal government to own them is invalid and therefore can convey no rights to support any action by JP Morgan Chase Bank in its behalf.

Again your honor, the affidavit nor possession of the note proves anything for JP Morgan Chase to move in this bankruptcy in the name of another the way the motion is brought. Nothing has changed.

We move the Court to deny relief from stay and for immediate dismissal of this claim in this bankruptcy as JP Morgan Chase Bank, National Association cannot act for a phantom party in interest that does not legally exist to be hold assignment of these debt instruments. And there is still no proof WAMU Mortgage Pass Through Certificates Series 2006-PR3, who this motion has been brought for, has been granted assignment of these debt instruments.

More seriously your honor, if they could show assignment, if someone cannot prove WaMu Mortgage Pass-Through CertIficates Series 2006-PR3 legally exists to have that assignment to them for JP Morgan Chase Bank to act in their behalf, And the Court accepts their motion, in the face of these facts, I fear the Court will have become complicitous in the fraud perpetrated on me and millions of investors by opposing counsel, JP Morgan Chase Bank and WaMu Mortgage Pass-Through CertIficates Series 2006-PR3 whatever they are, and will be violating federally protected rights, or those under a higher jurisdiction, waiving its judicial immunity.

persistancepays said...

In protection of its own interests the court must force JP Morgan Chase Bank to prove the legal existence of WaMu Mortgage Pass-Through CertIficates Series 2006-PR3 to be a claimant here and that they do hold assignment to my note to make this claim and this motion or deny the motion and dismiss the claim.

But then we examine the endorsement for what else it shows.

Then your honor, The markings plainly show whoever holds the note now has received it as a commercial paper negotiable equity asset in value of substantive money equivalence and a deposit or monetary conversion of it into equity has been made into the bank and gained as money on its books in exchange for it, to recover its purchase of the loan, without that risk of loss represented to me in the agreement that was the basis for my acceptance of the obligations of the contract as written, breaching the contract.

We see the endorsement reads, [Without Recourse Pay to the order of"]] , and then the signature of [[Joan M. Mills]] as authorized agent signing for [[Wells Fargo Home Mortgage,]] the lending bank, leaving a blank space above the signature to represent the note is counted as being endorsed to whoever is the actual holder of it at the present time.

But those receiving the note were the ones paying money to the previous holder to buy the note from them.

Yet the endorsement reads that these new blank endorsees who were paying money to buy the note were themselves being paid in this exchange.

But the only thing they got was the note your honor!

"Pay to the order of" on the note is the language used when a check or other equity asset is cashed or deposited.

"Pay to the order" means money your honor. It never means anything but money. You can´t pay anything except money in some form.

And the endorsement on the note written "Pay" to the order of these same banks who were paying out money to get the note, is clearly instruction from the seller´s officer who signed it to "pay" or transfer the note as commercial paper of money or money equivalence to whatever bank was becoming the buyer and holder of it.

Prima facie evidence your honor, these buyers of the note were thus regaining their monetary cost for it back on to the bank´s books from their receipt of the note as this asset or deposit of commercial paper equity of money or money equivalent deposit money credit which is the note,

recovering their cost to purchase the loan, without their still having the continued risk of loss represented to me in the agreement that was the basis for my acceptance of the obligations of the contract.

persistancepays said...

Their use of the note in this way is further established by the authority of legal definition in federal law of a deposit in 12 USC Sect. 1813 in front of you there your honor,

A deposit is "the unpaid balance of money or its equivalent received or held by a bank. Any such account or instrument must be regarded as evidencing the receipt of the equivalent of money when credited or issued in exchange for" among other things "a promissory note." That´s what a deposit is your honor, "the receipt of the equivalent of money". And this note is included in what may be received as " the equivalent of money" and credited as such on the bank´s books "in exchange for it".

As we said, "Pay to the order of" on the note is the language used when a check or other equity asset is deposited and again is prima facie evidence what the buyers did with the note here, which the inclusion of a note in the lawful definition of a "deposit", shows is a standard banking practice.

And by the authority of legal definition in federal law, the bank has, in fact, gained monetary conversion of the commercial paper money equivalent equity asset of our note as equity converted into money on its books which has funded or offset the funding of at least 90% the loan or [[$ 78, 300]] and did not bring this equity to the contract already its own, for which there could be an injured party with actual loss and damage from my performance as basis to bring this claim for them to seek recovery on.

By its "deposit, " they have converted the equity of it into money on the bank´s books which has offset any loss or damage they had from my performance,

excepting only the 10% or less cash fractional reserve required to be held and actually placed at risk of any bank´s assets and deposits for the loan or its purchase at any time as a cause for action to bring this suit.

----------------------------------------------------------

Your honor, We have the note itself, which if we were to stand here and read it shows in every other sentence the holder of the note is representing to the maker by statement or implication they have a risk of loss to recover the equity loaned.

I would ask clarification of the Court of opposing counsel. your honor, does he make any dispute of this fact of the contract?

--denies-

Well, lets look at the contract your honor.............

--no, admits-

The note repeatedly represents to the maker by statement or implication the lender has a risk of loss to recover the equity loaned.

Yet with markings on its face showing after it had been signed and tendered to the bank in the loan, or to subsequent holders, it has been deposited by these banks and by the authority of legal definition in federal law, monetary conversion of it into equity has been gained as money on its books in exchange for it, to recover its loan, without that risk of loss represented to me in their agreement as basis for my acceptance of obligations under the contract.

persistancepays said...

As the Court can see your honor, Plaintiff´s pleadings [and Affidavit ] do not establish any competent fact witness acceptable in law to dispute this prima facie evidence of equity gained from the note itself that can affirm they have suffered actual loss and damage from my non performance as basis to enforce their claim against me, as their affidavit makes no reference to this fact at all.

All This is unrebutted by the bank, and these facts of the bank´s action to recover on the debt instrument itself is now supported by evidence of its deposit and receipt of it as money in the full meaning of federal definition in law, And at a minimum raises material question as to whether these Banks have complied with the representations of this contract to have made a loan or purchase of it they have the equitable risk of loss to recover represented to me in their agreement, that was not regained in deposit or monetary conversion of the debt instrument they got from me, And have actual loss and damage from my performance entitling them to [action against me] foreclosure]]]].

requiring trial for the Court to discern the truth of this transaction. And Under Rule precludes summary judgment as a matter of law.

The Court cannot allow enforcement of this debt instrument contract until these material issues are resolved if the claim is not to be dismissed outright which is what we believe is proper and we so move your honor.

This by itself as a matter of law should stop any action by the court against you. If it does not then it becomes clear evidence of prejudice by the court and ignoring of the court's rules by the court that can be carried into legal action against the judge or more importantly a basis for claim against the judge's ins bonding agent. So you see if you are ready for what you may find, the more evidence is better evidence for you. If there are questions on what may be in someone elses case we will be glad to examine the facts with you, Dr Weatherly You may reach us at 662-489-6554.

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On another very important subject let me add something.
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The Bible says, He is for us, not against us.
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If you need to think about that or you have someone in mind that does, I'll be glad to talk with them. My number again was 662-489-6554. I just wanted you to know that.
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mogel007 said...

Doxxing – named for “documents” or “docs” – is the act of release of someone’s personal and/or identifiable information without their consent. This can include things like their full legal name, social security numbers, home or work addresses and contact information.

persistancepays said...

kane knew his sheet.

probly waht cost him his lift.

persistancepays said...

life

persistancepays said...

wonder if trump was in office back then if he would have personally intervened??

then again, probly not

CERTIANLY, he must be aware of the magnitude of heathers TDA acct/federal reserve case which would have YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE implications.

he certainly must have some kind of adviser keeping him updates

persistancepays said...

maybe hes going after the FBI corruption, protecdtion of FEDRES at just the right time as tehy are very involved in heathers case??

Dr. Caligari said...

It looks like the alleged jury in Randall's and Heather's alleged case allegedly found them allegedly guilty:

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/01/31/tennessee-sovereign-citizens-trial-randall-bean-heather-ann-tucci-jarraf/1084220001/

I'm sure Heather will refuse the alleged verdict for cause, but I suspect she will still be sent to an alleged prison to serve an alleged sentence.

persistancepays said...

Where did you alledgedly read this?

persistancepays said...

Ok the link I just checked


Originally Published 4:05 p.m. ET Jan. 31, 2018
Updated 1 minute ago

persistancepays said...

They can appeal the alledged verdict.

Dr. Caligari said...

They can appeal, but they will start serving their sentences notwithstanding the appeal. Moreover, the appellate court will consider only issues they properly preserved for appeal by making timely objections in the trial court.

As I've said all along, they would have done better to use real lawyers and real legal arguments, like the Bundys did.

mogel007 said...

When is their hearing for sentencing to be scheduled? I wonder if Heather and Randy are surprised of their guilty verdicts?

Dr. Caligari said...

According to a new article in the Knox News, Randy's sentencing is June 12 and Heather's is June 26. The judge has revoked their bail, so they will be in jail until sentencing.

Dr. Caligari said...

The new article is here:

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/02/01/comic-book-banking-sank-sovereign-citizens-knoxville-fraud-trial/1085512001/

The information about the sentencing dates is in the last paragraph.

persistancepays said...

As I've said all along, they would have done better to use real lawyers and real legal arguments, like the Bundys did



NFW = NO EFFING WAY!!!!

alledged 'real' layers work for the court of baal

persistancepays said...

When is their hearing for sentencing to be scheduled? I wonder if Heather and Randy are surprised of their guilty verdicts?

i gotta beleive that they are/were surprised no different than kurt/scott were.

why would one go thru all the time/effort/trouble if they knew that they weer going to lose an 'alleged' case and alledgedly receive and alledged sentence and then be sent to an alledged jail??/


make sense??

persistancepays said...

by an 'alledged judge' no less in an alledged courtroom???

persistancepays said...

they did like all their predecessors accomplish one thing howerver...

the fact that these 'alledged' tda accts DO exist and they can be accessed with anyone who has some knowledge.

something i read that they entered into the courtroom made no snese to me however...

why woould they bring up an alledged 'hole' in the financial system for terroists to go thru to get $$$ from as they did??

obviosly, the 'hole' has not been closed so someone else with the knowledge and fortitude to be sent to an alledged jail could still access these funds.

if im on a jury, you cant tell me that you took $27M in order to plug the hole in the financial system. just tell me the truth about the corrupt fedres system especailly as the avg. 'jurist' on these cases doesnt have even a clue about the fedres system of fiat money and vapor money and all that stuff.

doesnt make sense to me.

'...im trying to help the govt. and help myself to $27M at the same time your ALLEDGED honor...."

persistancepays said...

so now they proved that the acctds exist...there job is done...

now its time for someone else to take up the mantle and take it to the next step...

ive always thoght that this is the way it would work...dismantle the system in s....t....e....p....s......

and somehow i dotn think that they are done either...i still think that they have more cards to play....

because basically my impression of heather is that she is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooooo smart for this....she has more cards to play i am absolutely sure of it!!!

she has it going on....man does that make her sexy....sexxxxxxy eye talian chick!!!!

and you can say what you want, she also accomplished tah the court 'notes' cannot be fractionated/hypothecated/collaterealized/compounded or yes...even ALLEDGED!!! LOLL!!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!

persistancepays said...

what is a (alledged of course!) "special verdict"??

is this different from a 'regualar verdict'??

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pacer-Doc-119-Special-Verdict-Form-02-01-18.pdf

persistancepays said...

all i could see is that maybe heather can get them on the sttement that "it did affect a (alleged) financial intintution.

the FEDRES IS NOT a financial institution. is it??

dont think so.

they print money. where does the money comes from??

an more, HOW ARE THEY AFFECTED??

if they can print $$ at will, wheres the LOSS???

no loss i can see?? hmmmmmm..........

ahhhh....i smell a rat.....goooood!!

maybe i know hwere this is gong!!!

persistancepays said...

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pacer-Doc-116-HATJ-FILING-OF-DECLARATION-02-01-18.pdf


notice that on this doc, they put it in CAPS and lower case names...alledgedly...LOL!

persistancepays said...

meanwhile....all this is occurring on an alledged planet of our alledged solar system.....in our alledged galaxy....in our alleged universe....

controlled by an alledged 'devil'.....alledgedly named natas....

persistancepays said...

interesting alleged witness list too!!

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pacer-Doc-118-Witness-List.pdf

persistancepays said...

does 'R' mean that the wintess recuses him/herself??

persistancepays said...

if you call the alleged FBI agnet (parker b. still) for the defense witness, how can he then recuse himself???

conflict of interest?

he is already being paid to lie, now how can he go tell the truth, right?

mogel007 said...

What is the significance of the 3 documents Heather refers to that made her 100% sure that the case was not going to trial?

persistancepays said...

not sure what youre referring to??

mogel007 said...

I agree the Federal Reserve is not a financial institution, so there is no victim or injured party since they can create all the money they desire, hence the Court in TN never had any jurisdiction since there was no witness of a victim that came forward under oath and specifying a real and particular loss. The Court was a sham just as much as Kurt & Scott's trial was a sham, as the US Attorney in Kurt's trial admitted in the pre-sentence conferencing record that there was no loss to the banks, yet the Judge treated it differently showing a loss to the banks, thus giving Kurt & Scott more time on their sentence, they didn't deserve; it all makes no sense and the rules mean nothing as the Judge can say and do whatever he wants and it becomes the record.

persistancepays said...

on anthoer note while im here for a couple more mins


NFL lawyer who siad the SB is an "alledged" outcome is found gunned down gangland style

see what happens when you affect big $$$$

he spilled the beans and said that the outcome is and has been for a long time now:

FIXED

i always thought as much

here: http://www.beaware.one/2018/01/29/nfl-lawyer-who-claimed-super-bowl-is-rigged-found-dead/

mogel007 said...

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pacer-Doc-116-HATJ-FILING-OF-DECLARATION-02-01-18.pdf

Number 9. Docs. 98, 101, 102

What is their significance if any?

This was apparently the reason why Heather believed 100% that there would be no trial.

persistancepays said...

will take a look tomorrow.

been on computer for 4 hrs now

need to get some errands run

later

persistancepays said...

quick look ....


obvously somehting happened on jan 23 to change this.

what???????????

mogel007 said...

The only way that the Super Bowl can be rigged is if someone is payed off under the table to screw up like a Field Goal Kicker, someone that can really affect the point spread or a quarterback that is payed off under the table not to play up to his expected performance. Then to prove that you would have to have evidence of this. The gambling places don't care who wins, as almost always they have an equal amount of money bets on both sides, and their expected profit is from their profit spread they take in, so they in the long run always make money, regardless of who wins. For example on football, you bet $11.00 to win $10.00. In this case, the profit to the Casino bookie is $1.00 per bet.

persistancepays said...

quick scanning appeart that she gave her elbow consel some dox that he never rec'd

someone took them maybe?

she looked for them and he says that he didnt have them?

monkey business going on here??

persistancepays said...

10) i confirm that i neve gave the docs to anyone buy lloyd....and apparently he doesnt have them any longer

persistancepays said...

or never did

persistancepays said...

that nfl lawyer must of known somehting of value

they dont just kill ppl for no reason.

persistancepays said...

this is doc 98# which she beleived would obviate the trial going forward:

filing of in praecipe dox:

Docket T
ext:
[PDF Removed pursuant to Doc. [100] Order and the direction of Chambers] NOTICE OF
FILING
OF PRAECIPE, DECLARA
TION OF DUE CAUSE, AND JUDGMENT AND ORDER OF
DISMISSAL
as to Heather Ann T
ucci-Jarraf
(Lloyd, Francis) (RLK)

persistancepays said...

so it would seem that when she filed (ordered) the judge to dismiss the alledged case, then she beleived thta he would

persistancepays said...

so, could hte alledged case have really been dismissed, and the rest of hte proceedings jsut for "show" ???

ya neva no

persistancepays said...

a post from her blog:

February 2, 2018 at 3:31 am

is this to intensify the surprise? I mean I perceive clearly we are in a “new” reality of some sort, and everything IN this new reality has led me to this point….I mean I dont feel “the old fear”, just curious because I KNOW THIS IS GOOD WITHOUT A DOUBT. I mean with everything said and thats happened and happening, how does it read guilty? does that mean we are guilty? or is this just my own reality??? confused, sorry.. I Love Everyone either way, however it turns out.
THANK YOU;

persistancepays said...

we are living in a new alleged reality.....

persistancepays said...

bye till 2mrw....

Dr. Caligari said...

all i could see is that maybe heather can get them on the sttement that "it did affect a (alleged) financial intintution.

the FEDRES IS NOT a financial institution. is it??

dont think so.


USAA Bank is a financial institution, and they're the victim here. The Federal Reserve didn't lose anything, because the "account" didn't exist and nothing came out of it. USAA took the "deposit" from the Federal Reserve without verifying it was real, and are out millions because of that.

mogel007 said...

Just to make people in Hawaii feel more safe, they have conducted 3 missle tests since 2017 to blow a missle out of the sky and 2 have failed. So the story that a missle took out a Chinese missle that was touted as the real reason for the Hawaii alert not long ago, is only about a 33% chance of being true, assuming of course, you believe the latest story. More disinformation to confuse and make you wonder:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-test-fail-u-unable-091712478.html

mogel007 said...

"USAA took the "deposit" from the Federal Reserve without verifying it was real, and are out millions because of that."

Does that mean that USAA bank was extremely negligent in their banking practices? Or is that just common practices by USAA bank not to verify anything? Do you think anyone got fired over this?

mogel007 said...

So credits are given from non-existant accounts and monies are transferred because USAA bank didn't do their job correctly? Is that what you are saying? I didn't realize that banks were that stupid.

mogel007 said...

I played hell depositing an insurance check, and I knew it was good. They wanted this and that, and verification and indemnification, you name it before they would even take the instrument. Banks always verify when large amounts are involved. And to think this was 30 million dollars that was transferred by Mr. Bean and the banks didn't verify. LOL What a crock!!!! I think the story that Hitler was creating an aryian race superior to all other races is more believable.

mogel007 said...

Doesn't USAA have insurance for so called fraudulent transactions? If that's true, would the bank be out the money, or would the insurance company be out 30 Million Dollars?

mogel007 said...

If that's true, isn't the alleged victim an insurance company?

mogel007 said...

Shouldn't the insurance company filed an affidavit as the victim in the court for the Court to even have proper jurisdiction in the case to even hear it?

mogel007 said...

Heather: If you really believed a pracipae was going to save you from going to prison to spend the next 15 years of your life there and you banked 100% on preventing that with a piece of paper, my heart really goes out to you! With your background as a lawyer, professional accountant and a criminal prosecutor, probably never seeing this type of filing successful before, I wonder what made you absolutely sure of this? I mean why would anyone gamble their life on something that isn't tried, trusted, and proven yet still be 100% sure? That seems wreckless to me! Thanks for being the guinea pig though. Maybe something good will come out of all of this though.

mogel007 said...

USAA took the deposit THAT DID NOT EXIST. LOL Can we say if it's a deposit IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EXIST then, and the term called a "deposit" may be a misnomer? We will call it the "alleged deposit" because credits were transferred, but obviously credits were also revoked. The credits WEREN'T TIMELY REVOKED as the law requireS, AND THAT'S WHY RANDALL GOT THE MONIES, but who gives a rats ass about the law AND HOW THE SYSTEM IS SUPPOSE TO WORK. Let's disregard the law, and convict the son of a bitch anyway, right? Let's send him away for 20 years.

mogel007 said...

Let's call this "jUST US"

mogel007 said...

Dr. Caligari, your explanation is NOT FEASIBLE AND DOESN'T WORK IN THE REAL WORLD:

Banking Handbook on EFT’s: http://www.nctreasurer.com/fod/Resources/BankingHandbook.pdf
p. 21 “Some agencies receive a large volume of EFT or wire deposits, and in this case an agency may request the establishment of a dedicated bank account for its dedicated use. Such account is also considered a “zero balance account” (ZBA), providing for the total of all deposits made to the account on a given day, to be automatically “swept” to a DST account. At the end of the banking day, the bank shall provide the agency access to online reporting to view the individual EFT deposits credited to the account.”
p. 38 Counterfeit warrants
“Questionable items will be brought to the agency’s attention on the day of presentment in order to determine if the item is valid or not. An immediate response is required of the agency, in order for DST to act upon the presentment timely. An advice will be provided the agency for all items returned.”
p. 49 Transactions pertaining to wire transfers
“Once an STP (Straight through Posting) transaction is authorized by the agency, and the effective date is entered as the current date, the posting takes place immediately with the status becoming liquidated
p. 50. “CB$ will not allow a negative funds transfer transaction to be initiated. CB$ Reference Number assigned by system when initiated (12 digits with first four digits being year).”

mogel007 said...

http://tinyurl.com/639cxd “The Fedwire Funds Service is a real-time, gross settlement system. Each transaction is processed individually and settled upon receipt via a highly secure electronic network. Settlement of funds is immediate, final and irrevocable." 

mogel007 said...

“When a wire transfer is made from one bank account to another, both account holders are verified. Additionally, the amount of money in each account is verified, so there are no charge backs associated with wire transfers. See link: http://tinyurl.com/7v4jtp7

mogel007 said...

USAA ACCEPTED THE WIRE AND DID NOT TIMELY REFUSE IT BEFORE THEIR MIDNIGHT DEADLINE OF THE NEXT DAY. That's why credits were issued. Bank wires are not reversed. At least not reversed legally. USAA received full payment. Full payment does not come from a fictious account with no money in it from the Federal Reserve Bank.

***“As long as the beneficiary’s banks has not timely rejected the payment order, acceptance under section 4A209(b)(3) is at the opening of the next funds transfer business day if, at that time, the amount of the senders order is fully covered by a withdrawable credit balance in an authorized account of the sender or the bank has otherwise received full payment from the sender. That is, cover at the time debt is posted is irrelevant; what counts is the state of the account at the opening of the next funds-transfer business day.”

mogel007 said...

If both the payor bank and the depositary bank violate their respective midnight deadlines (§ 4302(a), § 4214), liability passes upstream to the payor bank. Hanna v. First National Bank of Rochester, 87 N.Y.2d 107, 661 N.E.2d 683 (1995).

Wouldn't the payor bank be the Federal Reserve Bank? They should be liable for the alleged loss of USAA, not Patricia and Randy Bean. They should be sued for screwing all of this up if that's what happened that there were no real accounts. But there was a real account at the Federal Reserve because credits were given. Then credits were illegally revoked past the banks deadlines.
You can't accept a bank wire, give credits, and then revoke the credits. That's not how the System works.

mogel007 said...

See Number 15. Section 4-302 at this link: http://tinyurl.com/8m4danl reads “A payor bank must pay or return an item or send notice of dishonor by its midnight deadline (midnight on its next banking day following the banking day on which it receives the relevant item or notice). Most bankers are familiar with this requirement, but some do not realize that this strict deadline applies even when the check presented for payment is a counterfeit, or is drawn on a closed account. If an item is presented to you for payment, act expeditiously if you intend to return it unpaid. Otherwise, you may lose the legal right to return the item.”

§ 4-302. PAYOR BANK's RESPONSIBILITY FOR LATE RETURN OF ITEM.
(a) If an item is presented to and received by a payor bank, the bank is accountable for the amount of:
(1) a demand item, other than a documentary draft, whether properly payable or not, if the bank, in any case in which it is not also the depositary bank, retains the item beyond midnight of the banking day of receipt without settling for it or, whether or not it is also the depositary bank, does not pay or return the item or send notice of dishonor until after its midnight deadline; or
(2) any other properly payable item unless, within the time allowed for acceptance or payment of that item, the bank either accepts or pays the item or returns it and accompanying documents.

mogel007 said...

USAA lost the legal right to return the item, reverse the bank wire or take back the credits it obviously gave from the wire because it was past midnight of the next banking day. This means the bank accepted the wire and issued real credits from money from a real bank account, because Randy bought a $900,000 motor home, and some other things with the money. Bank wires are irreversible, because credits are almost immediate in real time.
So I fail to see how USAA is the victim here?

mogel007 said...

Once you accept a wire, you can't then refuse the wire. That only happens in fantasy land.
Acceptance of a wire doesn't compute to criminal crimes, not bank fraud, and certainly not money laundering.

mogel007 said...

Here's a very similar case to Heather and Randall Bean. They should have studied this case in detail because the US Attorneys tried to get Defendants on a slew of charges including bank fraud and money laundering, but were unsuccessful on all counts. The Defendants went free, and got to keep everything they bought or discharged in hundreds of thousands of bank debts and newly found equity from their so called accounts at the Federal Reserve that supposedly don't exist. LOL

Defendants in USA v. Wahler issued EFT’s, and after the practice was determined legitimate, all criminal charges dropped: U.S. District Court Western District of North Carolina (Asheville) Criminal Docket for Case #: 1:08-cr-000055-RLV-DCK-1, USA v.Wahler et all, filed 06/03/2008. http://www.myprivateaudio.com/030110_wahler_docket.pdf See also:
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/030110_wahler_docket.pdf
http://privateaudio.homestead.com/030110_wahler_dismissal_indictment.pdf
See indictment: http://privateaudio.homestead.com/030110_wahler_indictment.pdf

Dr. Caligari said...

USAA lost the legal right to return the item, reverse the bank wire or take back the credits it obviously gave from the wire because it was past midnight of the next banking day. This means the bank accepted the wire and issued real credits from money from a real bank account, because Randy bought a $900,000 motor home, and some other things with the money. Bank wires are irreversible, because credits are almost immediate in real time.
So I fail to see how USAA is the victim here?


USAA lost the right to return the bogus credit, so they were stuck with a loss when the Federal Reserve reversed the credit. So they were the victim.

mogel007 said...

What part of bank wires are irreversible do you not understand? What part of bank wires give immediate credit, do you not understand? USAA knew the wire cleared. It cleared because there was real money from a real account. What part of the banks check things on both sides before they even put the wire through do you not understand? What part of USAA accepting the bank credits do you not understand? What part of the liability for the transaction goes to the Payor Bank which is the Federal Reserve Bank do you not understand? What part of the Federal Reserve Bank creating money out of thin air do you not understand, so they can't be the victim. Liability for the bank wire goes upstream to the Federal Reserve Bank itself. What part of that do you not understand? The Federal Reserve Bank was not the Plaintiff in this so called alleged criminal case as they weren't the victim. A fictitious corporate entity called the UNITED STATES was the plaintiff in this alleged criminal case, WHO WAS FORECLOSED UPON, who can't be the victim either because they never had an jurisdiction in this case to find anyone guilty of anything.

If USAA lost the right to return the credit as you say, then they need to take the so called loss. That's how it all works and is suppose to work. USAA understands this. If they were a victim, and they weren't, it's still their own fault anyway you look at it. They need to grow up and act like an adult and take responsibility for their stupidity, if that is in fact the case which apparently it was. They didn't do their job is their petty excuse. Now they want someone else to take the blame and the fall for them not doing their job. That's pretty immature don't you think? Banks never take responsibility!!! They didn't do it during the mortgage meltdown either. When the banks failed in 2008 they expected the government/the People to bail their sorry asses out. They take none of the real risk, but want all of the profits. When are the banks going to become accountable for screwing the American People and ever taking any personal responsibility for their stupidity?

persistancepays said...

Dr. Caligula said....

USAA took the "deposit" from the Federal Reserve without verifying it was real, and are out millions because of that.


so youre going to 'verify' every depost taht comes from teh FEDRES???

REALLY?????

the entity from which you get over 90% of your lendable money from via fractonation/hypothecation???

so as it stands now, usaa bank

check one)

1) we verify every depsoit that comes from FEDRES


2) we do not verify every depsot that comes from the FEDRES

make any sense???


so you telling me taht this can happens again???

good!!

i'll try it myself then to 'verify' that it works!!! $$$$$

persistancepays said...

taht statement makes no sense.

so usaa or ANY bank is not going to trust the FEDRES???

really?

how that that work??

persistancepays said...

so when they 'fractionate' your money and depost 10x more $$ to your bank than you have deposts on hand, you waht???


send a text to janet yellin and ask if she just deposted 10x more in usaa bank than we have on deposit??

really?

ho nice of you!


wrongly!!

fact is that they do not 'verify' ANY deposits from FEDRES

if for no other reason than maybe FEDRES may take them back!!

oops!! youre rigth, we make a mistake. LOLLOLOL!!!!

persistancepays said...

USAA took the "deposit" from the Federal Reserve without verifying it was real


real?


as in really???


waht is "real"


waht?

did the FEDRES send cash?

cash equivalents??

waht?

gold?

silver maybe?

maybe diamonds or rubies?

how is anything the FEDRES sends you REAL??

SPLAIN IT TO ME LUCY????

they made 'digits' appear on your assets screen in the office.

and thats about as real as it gets.

digits

persistancepays said...

just look at it like heather does.

you allegedly lend out alleged money in return and you allegedly get paid back in alleged money and everyone goes allegedly home alledgedly happy!!

persistancepays said...

WHISTLE BLOW REPORT:

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2.jpg

persistancepays said...

To: bz riger (bzr et. al
From: 1369008: HEATHER TUCCI-JARRAF
Subject: RE: all is perfect and perfectly done

Date: 2/3/2018 6:25:27 AM

Purchase a Gold Pass for HEATHER TUCCI-JARRAF

thank you, BZ!

all secrets coming out now.

my complete gratitude and love to all… every one dissolved long-standing belief systems held throughout and in the cosmos.

all and each being is a gift
i treasure each one always all ways

my compassion, love, and celebration to every one in this “short-term”
all ways
always
hatj

Dr. Caligari said...

they made 'digits' appear on your assets screen in the office.

You can use those digits to buy gold or silver (or an RV).

If I hacked your bank account and made all of the digits on the screen disappear, leaving your balance as zero, would you be upset? Or would you say "they weren't real, I didn't lose anything"?

Dr. Caligari said...

As I've said all along, they would have done better to use real lawyers and real legal arguments, like the Bundys did



NFW = NO EFFING WAY!!!!

alledged 'real' layers work for the court of baal


Yup, that's why the Bundys are walking around free and Heather is in jail, facing a 10+ year sentence.

mogel007 said...

Bundy's are free because federal agents did too many things that were grossly wrong, and tried to hide and lie about these facts; not so much due to their legal counsel although the Bundy's had a winnable case if all their evidence was presented and allowed to be presented to a petite jury. As the Bundy's said, no jury in America was going to convict them after hearing all the facts but it never got that far due to the mistrial. And the US attorneys office not willing or wanting to retry the case speaks volumes.

Dr. Caligari said...

Bundy's are free because federal agents did too many things that were grossly wrong, and tried to hide and lie about these facts; not so much due to their legal counsel

It was their lawyers who uncovered and proved that misconduct through discovery and cross-examination. Did Heather even serve any discovery requests on the Government? No, she was too busy writing "refused for cause" on every piece of paper she saw. A real winning strategy--
NOT!

As the Bundy's said, no jury in America was going to convict them after hearing all the facts but it never got that far due to the mistrial.

The jury heard all of Heather's testimony, and convicted her before lunchtime. Does that tell you anything?

And the US attorneys office not willing or wanting to retry the case speaks volumes.

That wasn't the U.S. Attorney's decision; the judge ordered dismissal with prejudice. You need to read more.

Dr. Caligari said...

So credits are given from non-existant accounts and monies are transferred because USAA bank didn't do their job correctly? Is that what you are saying? I didn't realize that banks were that stupid.

USAA Bank was grossly negligent. That might be a defense in some (not all) kinds of civil cases, but never in a criminal case. If I leave the keys in my Rolls Royce when I park it in front of a bar in a bad neighborhood at night, I'm being really stupid, but if you steal that car, you're still guilty of grand theft auto despite my negligence.

mogel007 said...

Randy & Heather didn't steal anything, they just took funds from one account which was theirs and transferred it to another, so your analogy doesn't fit here concerning theft. I'm sure the petite jury didn't understand that, so they convicted them both. No surprise really.

mogel007 said...

What is surprising is that Heather feels love for everyone, despite the verdicts. I don't believe I would be giving out love vibes right after being convicted of serious felonies if I were in her shoes. I don't know how long she can do that; at some point reality is going to set in for her and I suppose even regrets, like what she could have done differently. Her reactions to all of this is not normal in my opinion.

mogel007 said...

Heather has a family and a husband. She has to ask herself if all of this has really been worth it? What good really has been accomplished from all of this tragedy? She's obviously disappointed her followers even though they can put on their best loving faces too; nothing has changed.

Dr. Caligari said...

Randy & Heather didn't steal anything, they just took funds from one account which was theirs and transferred it to another, so your analogy doesn't fit here concerning theft.

The testimony at trial was that Randy never had any account at the Federal Reserve. Neither Randy nor Heather offered any evidence to the contrary. They didn't subpoena any witness or any documents from the Federal Reserve to rebut this point, and neither of them cross-examined the Government witnesses.

persistancepays said...

like what she could have done differently. Her reactions to all of this is not normal in my opinion.


heatehr is not your 'normal' person

she is otherworldly that why she can do this

persistancepays said...

If I hacked your bank account and made all of the digits on the screen disappear, leaving your balance as zero, would you be upset? Or would you say "they weren't real, I didn't lose anything"?


of course i would.

because unlike the federal reserve, i dont have to ability to just 'create' more digits to show up in my account

tell you what?

give me the 'grey screen' codes that the FEDRES uses to put the digits in the accts an make the 'come live' and you can hack my acct all y ou want to and transfre the digits where you want to and i wont make a peep about it.

ill just create more where thse came from, so its

apples and oragnes

persistancepays said...

facxt is, that after many miscalucations, this is the 'jubilee year' for real which started on sept 30 day of atonement which will last until taht date thsi yaer.

if the usa doesnt come clean and do what its supposed to, god will close the curtian and the usa is done.

which includes debt forgiveness and all the 'prosperity programs' whichever they may be...

dg, tda accts, dinar rv, alvin hansens leins, valuing 'gods money' correctly, not suprressing the true price by shorting paper comex contracts,etc, etc etc

if the usa doesnt make good, then dont be making any long term plans because they wont be necessary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzXL64pPmPM
if you have a probelem with this, then take it up with god.

persistancepays said...

maybe some progress is being made it thsi area with trump

and also the deep info source "Q" has tweeted that the usa if "free' as of feb 1st

so well see what that means

but i do see some signs

but, the ptb could be up to some trix as now there have been what, 3 trains crashes in what 2 weeks???

i would be taking a train anwyhere if i were you right now

persistancepays said...

What good really has been accomplished from all of this tragedy?


the did what they jprobably had set out to do all along.

if nohting else, they PROVED that these tda accoutns exist as ive alsways said that they have proved.

and they used a process that exists, there was no hacking involved.

there was no 'hole' in the system.

because if it was a hole, it is still not getting plugged up now is it??

persistancepays said...

the next step in the tda acct. may have to be taken up by someone else,

maybe?

as im not so sure that heather is done and that the process is done.

a 'superior power' may have told the ptb that they have to recognize heathers 'rejetion' documents and preacipes that she filed.

or else??

the game is not over just yet.... ;-)

OMO said...

U.S. Inc., owns the court system, which means the judges, the lawyers, the clerks, the posecutors, etc. Under those circumstances, how can you win ? especially when the case is about system's dinero? They don't want us to have it. It's rightful place is the people, but they will never let us have it.

OMO said...


From the guy with the 200 I.Q.
start listening from 35:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piE4zzZOjZc&t=2119s


Christopher Michael Langan:

..."This degree of centralization of the money supply allows them to take the standardized utility that money should be and actually usurp it and displace it and insert their own utility instead. I'd love to talk to some of these guys and have them tell me, no, you know, basically we're not just inserting our own utility in place of the general welfare. We really care about everybody and it's only a temporary appearance and here's where its all leading, and here's where we're all going to end up, and it's going to be some kind of fantastic utopia. I'd love to have them tell me that, but they're not. They're really very secretive about it. They're highly competitive and they don't like to share their information or anything about where they're going. But this idea that money is a standardized utility in a sense makes it the property of all mankind, because we all participate in that utility. You can't let any tiny handful of people control it unless they can establish right up front, by telling the truth to everybody, that they have the knowledge really to arbit what utility is and what is useful to the human race and where the human race should be going. So yes, to that extent we're going to be the change. It's going to have to be a relatively big change and I think that people are wising up to this situation and that's where we're headed.”

persistancepays said...

also stock market dropping almost 666 pts to the decimal, no coincidence.

a BIG drop may be coming

do you know how much computer power is required to get such an index to drop almost exactly 666 pts???

665.85

no, you cant even imagine. so to coordinate all the buy/sell progrms togehter along with the actual publics participation in randomly buying/selling...

just unimaginable computer power...or the only other thing: the hand of god was involved.

either way....somehting BIG is coming!!! pay attineton!!!

and yes, my finger get tired from typiing on a computer all day..i am not dyslexic

persistancepays said...


Feb 5 2018 12:18:31
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 472124
275572
>>275544
[666]
Signal to POTUS THEY CONTROL THE MARKET?
SIGNAL?
THREAT?
WELCOME TO THE GLOBAL WAR.
Q

persistancepays said...


Feb 5 2018 12:30:09
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 472124
275719
>>275574
Imagine THIS.
Raw intel collection.
Narrative FEEDER.
Narrative COLLECTORS.
Narrative DISTRIBUTORS.
LEAKS.
CLASSIFIED.
PAYMENTS.
FOREIGN ACCOUNTS.
CASH.
SPOOK FILES.
HOTELS.
BLACKMAIL.
How do you retain 'Freedom of the Press' if those in front of the camera [trusted by select viewers] are extensions of the ARM?
Freedom of the Press is VITAL to retain.
TRUST THE PLAN.
THERE ARE A LOT MORE GOOD THAN BAD.
You, THE PEOPLE, need to remember how TO PLAY.
You, THE PEOPLE, have the POWER.
We STRIKE every SINGLE DAY.
We WIN every SINGLE DAY.
EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY ARE BEING DESTROYED - LITERALLY.
STAY STRONG.
HAVE FAITH.
THIS IS BIGGER THAN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE.
Q

persistancepays said...

one by one, they coming after yo!!

http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/12/06/major-shakeup-coming-at-fbi-inspector-generals-report-looking-at-27-leakers/

persistancepays said...

interesting comments on the verdict of the case

short and worth listing to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9mdsdAmvlM

Dr. Caligari said...

U.S. Inc., owns the court system, which means the judges, the lawyers, the clerks, the posecutors, etc. Under those circumstances, how can you win ?

Ask the Bundys how they won. (Hint: they didn't write "Refused for Cause" on every court order and think that was going to accomplish anything.)

persistancepays said...

teh court let them win thats why

mogel007 said...

The Court didn't let the Bundy's win; too many people involved in the government just screwed up so bad, that the Judge had to dismiss the case WITH PREJUDICE.

persistancepays said...

so thats like letting them win?

of course they screwed up heathers case as well, but she didnt win.

mogel007 said...

We know the Federal Court system is rigged because the US Attorney's win 97% of the time. In a fair contest, half the people would be innocent, and half would be guilty, but you don't see that in the statistics.

So if you are indicted of federal crimes, you have a greater chance of beating Stage 4 cancer than getting your case dismissed or proving your innocence. They'll railroad you into prison one way or the other.

Quote for the day: "Imprisoning Heather is in service to humanity."

No, I don't think the whacos that believe such crazy things really know what they are talking about. Imprisoning Heather does service to no one, and certainly not to Heather. If you believe the whacos, you also believe that imprisoning Heather is some soft of protection to her and for her.
People that can't take a defeat or accept the truth that she's going to prison because the system is corrupt and that's all there is to it, are just trying to find good in a totally bad situation. There is no good here, there is no silver lining. When justice loses, there is no pot at the end of the rainbow for Heather. If there was, they could delineate the plan in full, how that would be accomplished, and they can't do that. Heather's followers are without answers and real substance and without wisdom. They lost, and all they can do is express love to somehow show that they are somehow better than their oppressors which might be a way of not coping with the loss and fully accepting it. That's all well and good, but it's as they can't do any better than that and have no rabbit they can pull out of their hat. Its' up to God to fix these things.

persistancepays said...

Its' up to God to fix these things.


and trust me, he is going to fix it very soon.

usa doesnt come clean with all this nonsense, its done as a country

and personally, because i dont dismiss signs in the heavens lightly, then the upcoming crossover of the 'X' solar eclipse to occur 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks and 6 days after the last one on aug 23 last year, i believe or thereabouts is going to close the curtain on this utterly corrupt daughter of babylon.

thats why a part of me thinks that there will never be any 'prosperity' $$ coming dowdn...but we'll see.

and its also why they have now gone since oct. 1 w/o a real budget but only 'continuing reslolutions'

this is not a coincidence. i believe that they know that the purse is goiing to shut for real in a short time and they are trying to warn ppl, just like the stock mkt dropping '666' last friday. no coincidence there either. trying to warn ppl that a huge drop is coming.

god has decreed that satan must always 'tip his hand' before he does something.

even 9/11 left signs beforehand...

but only the 'elect' could see them.

same deal now. only the elect will see the signs.

talked to a dozen ppl who thinking that the market going down 666 pts was just a 'coincidence' and means nothing....ok....

persistancepays said...

and its also why they have now gone since oct. 1 w/o a real budget but only 'continuing reslolutions'

slowly china is withdrawing buying US treausry notes/bonds/bills/collateralized deposits/etc

when this finally stops, govt funding will stop withing one hour...

".....and her destruction came within one hour..."

wonder who said that???

mogel007 said...

Too many skeletons in the closet in the Bundy's case by the FBI and those the FBI hired which are too well known and publicized over the internet. Much of this evidence was known by the prosecution but purposely not shared with the Defense. That's not playing according to the rules of the court. For example it was known that the FBI or their hires had snipers watching and pointing their guns at the Bundy's, so they were the agressors and the one's posing the real threat not the Bundy's. The FBI killed for no reason. The Bundy's did not, they were just protecting what they had. It's sad that somehow that was all turned around that they allegedly committed felonies by standing up for their family and property.
The Top leaders in the FBI are going down soon and they will be exposed. Every day more evidence is being exposed about how the FBI and CIA violated the constitution to get improper FISA warrants to spy on Trump in order to get Trump thrown out of office and by spreading false things about him in order to embarrass him. The irony is that the only people guilty of Russian collusion is Hillary and Associates and bought and paid for by her. I don't see how she is going to escape prison once the full truth is exposed. Might take a year to accomplish that, maybe longer. How long did Watergate go on until we heard most of the truth in the media? Much longer than anyone ever expected or anticipated. And what happened? It led to President Nixon resigning. Had Nixon not resigned, maybe even he would have gone to prison. President Ford would have still pardoned him I think, not sure. Makes me wonder what Nixon did to the Shadow Government/Deep State that pissed them off?

Even though the Bundy's are free, it's still not over for the evil doers. Those involved in persecuting the Bundy's are in for a rude awakening and karma is a bitch and the sins of many will be exposed.
The Court/Judge did not let the Bundy's win. The Bundy's won fair and square. They should be proud of what they accomplished. If the court could have influenced a guilty verdict, they would have done so. The Judge saw that she/he had no other choice and dismissed the case WITH PREJUDICE. That's winning. When you can create a check-mate, it's over. Sometimes the Judge really has no leeway, and the Judge didn't want egg on her/his face, so the case was dismissed. |Course Trump assigning the federal lands to the control of the States was the bigger blow to the agenda of this case which slowed things down alot and made the case kind of redundant for the US Attorney's to fight for the win anyway. This was a case that the Court was not destined to win, as Trump blew their agenda out of the water.

mogel007 said...

John the Beloved, from the Isle of Patmos?

persistancepays said...

as Trump blew their agenda out of the water.

my point exactly!!

court had no choice but to let them win

persistancepays said...

book of rev

persistancepays said...

And now a word from Alex Jones of Infowars.com

Execute Order 666: Stock Market Plunge Globalist Signal To Trump?


Was recent 666 point drop in stock market warning to president?

https://www.infowars.com/execute-order-666-stock-market-plunge-globalist-signal-to-trump/

persistancepays said...

try to tell trump that 'we can take this thing down anytime we want to????


hmmmm.....

persistancepays said...

the upcoming crossover of the 'X' solar eclipse to occur 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks and 6 days


to me, this one is just plain amzing!!

wtf are the odds of this happening???

zillions to one!!

its like 666 and adding another one just for good measure!

what?

the planets know how to rig eclipses??

dont think so.

course, this also would mean that the 6666 time interval would have been planned at the beginning of time, when ou thik about it, and that makes it even more amazing.

also unfortuantly means that god had a certian time frame to 'close the curtain' on the daughter of babylon.

why all the efforts of the likes of heather have failed...kurt/scott, winston shout, jerry kane, etc, etc, etc

god knew it was all coming down anyway, so they couldnt win no matter what.

Dr. Caligari said...

You're ignoring my point: the Bundys proved the FBI's and Government's misconduct because they had real lawyers, who used the discovery procedures of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure and cross-examined the FBI witnesses. If they had acted like Heather and just wrote "refused for cause" on everything and didn't request discovery and didn't cross-examine any witnesses, they'd now be serving life sentences.

persistancepays said...

Refused for cost!

Cannot fractionally bank.

Dr. Caligari said...

the upcoming crossover of the 'X' solar eclipse to occur 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks and 6 days


What date is this supposed to happen?

mogel007 said...

There was alot of evidence had without the aid of lawyers even before the trial began:

https://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/docket

There were FBI agents that were sanctioned for violating their job and oath of office too.

mogel007 said...

The Shadow Government is also heavily invested in the stock market. Are you suggesting that they are going to cut off their nose to spite their face and manipulate the stock market so it crashes and doesn't recover the next time? Certainly they can figure out a better solution and still try to protect their interests. I don't see Trump giving up on all of the release of information he has to confound his enemies. I think he revels in making a point and proving he can beat any foe that comes up against him. He's done that most of his life. He loves winners and he prides himself as being a winner. I think what Trump hates the most is losing. His ego is not going to allow himself to lose in my humble opinion and he enjoys getting back at people that have left him alone when he had a need or stabbed him in the back. What did Trump say about John McCain being a prisoner of war? He said that he doesn't respect people that get captured. Why, because that means losing in his mind. He rather respects someone that has the intelligence of not getting captured.

OMO said...

why all the efforts of the likes of heather have failed...kurt/scott, winston shout, jerry kane, etc, etc, etc
_________________________________


They would have received lighter sentences had they just plead guilty. Really.

persistancepays said...

Dr. Caligula said...


the upcoming crossover of the 'X' solar eclipse to occur 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks and 6 days


What date is this supposed to happen?


Total solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 over Mexico, the United States, and Canada. The next total solar eclipse in the Americas comes on April 8, 2024. Totality first touches Mexico, enters the United States at Texas, cuts a diagonal to Maine, and visits the maritime provinces of Canada.


last was aug 20, 2017



+ 6 years = aug 20 2023

+ 6 moths = feb 20 2024 feb 20 is a tuesday, so 6 tuesdays later

+ 6 weeks = apr 2 2024

+ 6 days = BINGO!!

APRIL 8 2024


good morning....good afternoon.....good night!!!

persistancepays said...

too scary accurate if you ask me...but you dint

persistancepays said...

to me, this one is just plain amzing!!

wtf are the odds of this happening???

zillions to one!!

its like 666 and adding another one just for good measure!

what?

the planets know how to rig eclipses??

dont think so.

course, this also would mean that the 6666 time interval would have been planned at the beginning of time, when ou thik about it, and that makes it even more amazing.

also unfortuantly means that god had a certian time frame to 'close the curtain' on the daughter of babylon.

why all the efforts of the likes of heather have failed...kurt/scott, winston shout, jerry kane, etc, etc, etc

god knew it was all coming down anyway, so they couldnt win no matter what.


has nothing to do with having real LAYERS

NOTHING AT ALL

persistancepays said...

if someone gets off becase they used reel lawtyers, it was was for a bigger purpose

just liek the law is not to enforce justice but to keep the corp protected.


police enforce statutes (polic e/y) and arrest codebreakers and keep the fractional bank system from collapse

cant have to much crime now can we or the fractional banking system becomes meaningless now, doesnt it??

wehn a victim gets 'justice' its only because the perp was a bigger threat to the corp than he was to the victim so they lock him up and then further fractionalize each and every doc (contract) that he ever signs

persistancepays said...

if someone gets off becase they used reel lawtyers, it was was for a bigger purpose

becase rest assured, ANYONE that they do not want to let off, WILL NOT GET OFF!

PERIOD!

the case already goes in rigged from the beginning

they dont play to lose

Dr. Caligari said...

rest assured, ANYONE that they do not want to let off, WILL NOT GET OFF!
PERIOD!
the case already goes in rigged from the beginning


That's funny-- up until the verdict came in, you kept predicting that Heather and Kenny were going to win.

persistancepays said...

didnt know if they had rigged the case yet.

its obvoious now taht they did

persistancepays said...

and to answer y our not yet asked quastions:

"i thought you said that they rigged all cases'

yes i did, and yes they do.

but even for them, nothing is 100% guearanteed. even for the ptb

else it was, then turmp would not have won the lection.

persistancepays said...

TDA CASE:


Update 2.8.18

Randy was moved early this morning to the ICE facility in Ga. This is the same hotel HATJ stayed at before she reached TN from her tour of the country. You can send mail to Randy here

persistancepays said...

Irwin County Detention Center
Randall Keith Beane ID # 55002
132 Cotton Drive
Ocilla, Ga 31774

Dr. Caligari said...

didnt know if they had rigged the case yet.

its obvoious now taht they did


The Government called a witness from the Federal Reserve who said their are no secret birth accounts set up for people, and that Kenny didn't have any kind of account with the Federal Reserve. Neither Kenny nor Heather asked that witness a single question on cross-examination, and neither called a single witness of their own.

Based on that unrebutted testimony, what did you expect the jury-- any jury-- to decide? The Government didn't fix this case, Kenny and Heather did it all by themselves.

mogel007 said...

Good point.

mogel007 said...

Heather and Randall Bean isn't it? Not Kenny.

Dr. Caligari said...

Heather and Randall Bean isn't it? Not Kenny.

You're right, my mistake.

mogel007 said...
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mogel007 said...

Steps on how to access your TDA.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=TDA+account+set+up&view=detail&mid=7BECE5E70355A10345C27BECE5E70355A10345C2&FORM=VIRE


Heather & Randy got arrested because they didn't follow proper protocol.

Proof that these accounts are real as the Federal Reserve is the custodian. See 31 CFR 363.6

Also see 31 CFR 363.27 "What do I need to know about accounts for minors who have not had a legal guardian appointed by the court.|

When these TDA accounts are established at birth, you are a minor, and these accounts can't be used until you reach the age of marjority (18 years old). These accounts have to be claimed properly through the proper paperwork; you just can't just access them, WITHOUT THE PROPER PAPERWORK FIRST AND THE PROPER SET UP because you are assumed that you don't have access as you are still a minor because there is nothing in the record that says differently. You have to declare the age of majority first and properly prove that you have a right to these accounts.

CFR 363.27 (d) Procedure for conducting transactions on the minor's account. The custodian (Federal Reserve) must conduct all transactions in the minor's account on behalf of the minor. Access to the minor's account IS THROUGH THE CUSTODIAN'S PRIMARY ACCOUNT.

Randy and Heather never set up a primary account either. They just tried to access his funds directly. It doesn't work that way, otherwise, you get into trouble, get arrested, get indicted, later get convicted, and then go to jail.

Heather and Randy could have presented this evidence in court, but they didn't. They provided no evidence for their actions showing that these accounts are real. They showed nothing to prove that their wire could not have bounced. They provided no evidence that the bank was not a victim. So the petite jury, not seeing the full picture, of course convicted them. No wonder!

mogel007 said...

Heather could have provided any evidence of Randall's "secret account", but she didn't. Even the Federal Reserve talks about these TDA accounts, so the federal reserve witness lied, but as you say, he went unchallenged. An unchallenged testimony must be accepted as the truth.
She even could have argued and said that it was a fed wire that sent the monies from Randy's secret account to another account, and that there couldn't even be a debate here; but she didn't bother to do even that. Fed Wires by the way, DON'T BOUNCE:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/fedfunds_about.htm

We are not talking about an ACH wire. Randy's transaction was done individually, NOT IN A BATCH OF TRANSACTIONS LIKE AN ACH, so it wasn't an ACH transaction in the trial. ACH's can bounce and credits can be reversed.

Not only does a fed wire not bounce (payments aren't reversed, can't be reversed), but they are immediate, irrevocable, AND FINAL BY DEFINITION. They are also called "reverse wires", as the funds are verified before they are even sent. So the truth is that the bank wasn't deceived, tricked, or even the victim here.

None of that type of evidence was ever entered into the court or even heard by the Jury. The Jury doesn't know how FED Wires work. Heather didn't even bother to educate the Jury. What was she thinking? Oh that's right; she thought that her UCC-1 paperwork filed told the whole story and thought all she needed to do to win was file a pracepie (an order to the court). Who really understands her UCC-1 filing in 2012, that supposedly foreclosed on all corrupt corporations.... really????? You've got to simplify everything so that the simple person can understand, otherwise the jury is lost.

So yes, it is no wonder, the petite jury found them guilty.

mogel007 said...

These TDA accounts that are started at your birth, are for "debt discharge only". Randall used it as a way to have millions put in a CD brokerage account and then to purchase an expensive motor home by cashing out monies from the CD account so this looks like money laundering.
Again, it doesn't work that way, nor was it intended to work that way. He violated a cardinal rule. The TDA account established at birth is not for lavish purchases or to enrich yourself.

mogel007 said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqsVMIKzfMk&feature=youtu.be

Why the government agents killed Lavoy Finicum. They had a 150 trillion dollar reason to do so.

mogel007 said...

https://news.westernjournal.com/after-being-acquitted-ryan-bundy-files-multi-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-fbi/

Bundy filed lawsuit against FBI, and BLM.

persistancepays said...

The Government called a witness from the Federal Reserve who said their are no secret birth accounts set up for people,



they lied. what did you expect??

we know the accts exist?

else how did he buy the camper/mobil home?

did he use bitcoin?

gold?

silver?

waht acct. did he access that "does not exist?"

maybe the ford dealer just gave him the camper 'gratis' did he??

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