Monday, August 01, 2005

“Justice or Just Us?”

On July 27th. I was in the Hayward Court where I was handed an unsigned complaint by a third party hearsay witness that said I committed crimes in Utah and fled. I asked the judge the legal definition of a fugitive to which he explained "I have fled from justice." Curious, I am starting to smell a rat. Unknown complainants who believe from an unknown source are certain I have fled some unknown place and event and deserve no bail. Come on people am I the only one curious about this behavior?
To be continued…

60 comments:

whataboutjere said...

So how are things supposed to run now that the injunction is in place?

FedUp said...

"So how are things supposed to run now that the injunction is in place?"


the same as they were before.

FedUp said...

"I have fled from justice."


that's not the legal definition though.

FedUp said...
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FedUp said...

What the judge did is give you the definition of fugitive as an adjective, not the noun.

Main Entry: fu·gi·tive
Function: noun

: a person who flees; especially : a person who flees one jurisdiction (as a state) for another in order to elude law enforcement personnel

mogel said...

FUGITIVE FROM JUSTICE: "one who commits a crime within a state, and then withdraws himself from that state without waiting to abide the consequences of the crime he there committed," 270 S.W. 2d 39, 42; also one who conceals himself within the state in order to avoid its process; is applicable even to those who leave the state for another purpose. 255 U.S. 52. The fugitive status will toll the statute of limitations. See also long-arm statute.
LONG ARM STATUTES: statutes which allow local forums to obtain jurisdiction over nonresident defendants when the cause of action is generated locally and affects local Plaintiffs. The Supreme Court, in International Shoe Co. v. State of Washington, 236 U.S. 310, 316, authorized such expanded jurisdiction where "the contacts of the nonresident defendant with the forum are such that the exercise of jurisdiction does not offend our traditional notions of fair play and substantial justice." Green, Basic Civil Procedure 31 (1972). Such statutes are commonly employed to allow a local court to exercise jurisdiction over non-resident motorists who cause automobile accidents within the state.

Since Scott & Kurt both are NO fugitives by definition, then, this is unlawful imprisonment, which carries severe penalties AND HOLDING THEM WITHOUT BOND, since the fugitive warrant is bogus, shows even more bad behaviour by all the parties responsible for their arrest.

If you give parties enough rope, eventually they will hang themselves. Hopefully as the evidence piles up by the FBI's bad behaviour, the Courts duplicity in this and the lying or questionable testimonies, certainly a jury of one's peers will see how ridiculous this whole situation is starting to look.

Tulsa John said...

Mogel

I appreciate the information and definitions you have provided.

It is interesting that this year we let a "star" go who by everyone's admission probably was guilty but, because the case was not put together properly was let go to "possibly" molest again.

Now here we have two guys held prisoner without due process because they think a cover up is better than letting the masses know the truth.

What would it take to get someone in an investigative capacity to investigate the injustices perpetrated upon Kurt and Scott?

Is there anyone in California who would love truth and would help do what it takes to bring the Truth about the injustices in a lawful manner?

Tony Tuba said...

What happened to the disclosure web site that Kurt was talking about to show their arguement?

whataboutjere said...

Fedup, how's that supposed to work?

Tiger44 said...

I was told that I did something some time ago by someone. The result was that someone said I was guilty of something that I did somewhere.

Clear as mud?

Keep on Keepen on Kurt!!!!

FedUp said...

whataboutjere,

now why would anyone be so stupid tell you how it is supposed to work on a public forum so that the feds can read it too? are you a troll?

i heard le compete is refunding his clients. that's good news

truthtooth said...

I read that on July 24 Kurt had been on a hunger strike for 4 days.
That means that he has not eaten or had a drink in 12 days is he okay?

whataboutjere said...

Okay Fedup, so where would a REAL client get any information on the future of Dorean's operations? Where would a REAL client get questions answered relating to saving their home?

Sounds like the infamous bad boy lecompete, punked out to the fbi!

Farrel LeCompte said...

We are NOT giving refunds to anyone, nor did I "punk out" to anyone.

If you are so big, bad and brave come sit with me and see if you've got the balls to deal with what I'm up against, tough guy.

truthtooth said...

Farrel LeCompte:

why aren't you refunding your victims?

Farrel LeCompte said...
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newyorklife said...

I am a client of CCR and I knew the risks involved and a no refund policy is clearly stated.

Moreover, whether I am a victim or not remains to be seen, but one thing I know for sure is that I knew once I embarked on this venture, I would not be entitled to a refund.

Anyone, who thinks differently needs to learn risk/reward factors.

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whataboutjere said...

My humble apologies Mr. Lecompte. I was suckered into believing that Fedup was speaking from authority.

truthtooth said...

Are tere any lawyers that have rendered an opinion as to if this is a scam our not?

Starfish Prime said...

No Kurt, I know that something is up. TCOB would like to believe that the government is good and honest (why not? this is the best country in the world , right?)..too bad for tcob. I wish I could do something for you...just pray everyone..and pray that tcob will see the light someday...

Starfish Prime said...

Government fraud, deception, and corruption..things that Tcob seems to believe do not exist...fuckin idiot.

tcob247 said...

starskank said........fuck off tcob
LOLOLOL....so much for watching your language.
You have a real grasp of the English language.
Do you own a dictionary?????

insuranceman said...

test

insuranceman said...

is Kurt still on the dry fast??

Starfish Prime said...

Don't like it COB? Am I going to hell for that??? Awwww...

Relax...you're just an idiot.

truthtooth said...

Starfish Prime:

Even with it's flaws this is the best country in the world, if you don't think so then as far as I know they will let you leave, that is if you are not under a fugitive warrant.

tcob247 said...

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....good come back stankfish
You not a big USA supporter?????....what country is your favorite???????

believerandfollower said...

So, how many four year olds do we have on this blog calling each other names? Let's stick to the issues. What can WE ALL do to help Kurt? I know what I'm going to do; PRAY for His wisdom.

truthtooth said...

believerandfollower:

What we can do for him is we can hope that he is convicted and that this time he learns that criminal behavior gets you sent to jail.

Gforce said...

truthtooth--------Don't waste your time hoping for Scott and Kurt's conviction. It is impossible for a righteous man who is trusting in God to be convicted when brought to trial.Ps.37:33

truthtooth said...

Gforce:

I am sure that the DA has other ideas. So what you are saying is that if he is convicted then he is not righteous correct. This will be fun to watch.

tcob247 said...

gforce....you are joking right????
david koresh quoted the bible and thought he was righteous too,
The bible has nothing to do with dorean...LOL
By the way......
Didnt Jesus, the most righteous of all, get convicted and hung?
Didnt John the Baptist get beheaded?
Didnt one of his disciples get hung upside down?
Take a look at history pal.
Just because you are a Christian and have faith doesnt mean you are exempt bad things happening to you. Usually quite the opposite

Gforce said...

Read the chapter Psalm 37. God said what He said.-------True enough, bad things "happen" to those who have faith in God, BUT no wicked scheme designed against a person who puts his faith in God will ever be effective(Is54). None of the last 3 people listed were convicted when brought to trial. Others were not even tried, just martyred. Jesus was tried, FOUND INNOCENT, executed, then came back to life from the dead 3 days later. You can't keep a good man down. ------The Bible has everything to do with everything. In Scott and Kurt's trial, certain people will stand before God and man with their right hand on the Bible and be sworn in to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. The Bible is very clear as to what happens to those who tell the truth and what happens to those who do not.

roadrunner86 said...

Kurt,
I have filed the NOD, and am finding that my property is still active on the national foreclosure list. The sale is in 2 days. - No one is answering the phone, nor returning calls.

roadrunner86 said...

KJ.
In our last conversation you stated that the CE was done for the first note, and that the NOD would be served on the bank(s). Is there any way of knowing if the offending parties have been served? How can the CE be enforced up here if it is not recorded here?
As always I appreciate what you are standing for. I hope the gov't puppets realize their errors and send you home soon.

tcob247 said...

Gforce....
Jesus was not a man. He is God.
Lets not confuse Kurt with the disciples and Jesus.
There are scads of people out there who quote scripture and twist it to accomodate what they are doing.
I'm not saying he is right or wrong.
Thats not my place or yours.
The scripture does say "not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven".
Lets just stop using scripture to defend the actions of others.
IE: Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jim Baker etc. etc. looooong list.

Tulsa John said...

roadrunner86

If I had a house being foreclosed on, I would make a FOIA request to the banking regulators. I would find out if the bank doing the foreclosure had any right, title, interest, fiduciary rights to the property they are trying to foreclose on. I would get a copy of my State Statue of factual evidence where I would learn the moving party must show complete best evidence of their claim. I would no doubt find out that the moving party must prove they have any title, interest, or fiduciary rights to the property. Now, won’t that be interesting when I would stand in front of a foreclosure judge and ask if this bank has no rights, title, interest, nor fiduciary rights, why am I here?

truthtooth said...

roadrunner86;

Pack your bags and send Kurt a thank you note.

I have never seen someone get so screwed by someone else and thank them.

roadrunner86 said...

tulsajohn:
I did the FOIA letters several months back, and every one denied evidence of the banks licensure.

Gforce said...

tcob------WARNING------You said Jesus was not a man.------1John4:2"By this you may know the Spirit of God: every spirit which acknowlegdes AND confesses the FACT that Jesus Christ the Messiah actually HAS become MAN and has come in the FLESH is of God(has God for its source).--And EVERY spirit which does NOT acknowlegde AND confess that Jesus Christ has come in the FLESH is NOT OF GOD. This nonconfession is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is already in the world."(Amp)----It is quite simple to be able to discern those who are of TRUTH and those that are not.

tcob247 said...

gforce.....see how you twist things around.
You only quoted the first part of what I said.
Why didnt you add the other part?
I specifically said he is God!!!!
Always has...always will be.
Jesus was God in the flesh. Both God and Man.
You know what I was saying and you twisted it and say that I am an Anti-Christ.
You are unbelievable.
Your "discernment" is a little off

tcob247 said...

so...Dr. Fred...is what you basically said was that those who are going through forecosure need to handle that themselves?

dgwondering said...

Hold on to the dream? Put your faith in them because they seem to say the right words from the Bible?

Anybody remember the $1K per year per trustee thing after the first year and how hard they pushed having a trust and what all they did as trustees and keeping it in force to protect assets?

Hmmmm. $1000 per trustee (X 2 - both of them) X the number of trusts ( = 4000?) looks like about $8M per year for Dorean.

No longer wondering.

believerandfollower said...

dgwondering: what you forgot, is that Scott and Kurt being the trustees and you paying them $1000 each was a CHOICE, you could very well appoint your OWN trustee, for FREE.

Tulsa John said...

A Trustee for Free

Now that is a thought. I can imagine the kind of trustee one would get for free. Who would take on the feduciary responsibilties that a trustee has for free?

I have always said you get what you pay for.

truthtooth said...

believerandfollower:

Why don't you believe and follow something else. I guess that these two can do anything that they like and you will defend them.

All I see is that people are being scammed and your response is that they made the choice.

I guess that are victims deserve the blame because they made a choice based upon false pretences.

Tony Tuba said...

What happened to the Dorean Disclosure web site that was already suppose to be out?

tcob247 said...

well....if you've been following this at all....they havent met a deadline yet.
In fact a good portion of what they've said has not come to pass.
Here's a couple.
1. Only about 10% of the banks are "misbehaving"
Correction, make that 100% now.
2. Free and clear mortgage.
Correction...a piece of paper that says free and clear mortgage....in fact, still making payments.
3. Refinance and put money in your pocket.
correction....no title company will touch it. If they did you would owe on TWO mortgages that are are purported to be "free and clear"
I could add many more but you get the idea

Starfish Prime said...

Obviously some people have taken my statements out of context...I meant that just because we believe that this is the best country in the world, it is not without fraud, corruption, and deception. It's not perfect...now ya happy?? MORONS..

truthtooth said...

Fred Says Lucy Stinks:

Are we catching on that these guys are crooks?

tcob247 said...

It's a great country cause we have to tolerate people like you who think everyone who doesnt believe like him is a moron.
LOL you are too funny stinkfish

believerandfollower said...

tulsajohn:

I stand corrected: A trustee of your CHOICE, maybe for free, maybe not; but you do not HAVE to use Kurt and Scott. That was my point. I'm on your side, remember?

toothtruth:

It ain't over yet. I CHOOSE to follow, AND believe. That's MY choice. If you don't like it, YOU go somewhere else.

truthtooth said...

believerandfollower:

Blind faith in God is one thing but in these guys is quite another.

Starfish Prime said...

Believe like me??? Fraud is fraud is fraud. Period. Nothing to believe or not. You cannot argue what is..you must accept it. It is what it is. Are you just in denial TCOB?

tcob247 said...

Starfish....you willing to go to Jail or lose your house for it?
Do you have your house in the program? I really would like to know.

truthtooth said...

I haven't heard much about the hunger strike, hasn't it been 15 days?

midwesttoo said...

a fast is not equal to a hunger strike

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