Thursday, December 08, 2005

I QUIT

I don’t know about Scott, but I quit. I’ve been seriously measuring the cost and I am not willing to bear it. I’ve contacted both prosecutors to work out a deal. It appears from the preliminary discussions I can be back in my wife’s arms in a couple of years. I will know my future and no longer have to deal with this uncertainty. The help I was relying on became more and more futile. There will be restitution of about 10% for all my victims that will be overseen by the Feds. In exchange, they have promised not to pursue any clients. This I suppose is the only good news. There will be little purpose left for this blog except notice of final settlement. This will take about two weeks. Until then, this is my final post. I hate to admit it, but it appears the naysayers were wiser than I. This battle really was too large for a couple of guys. Of course, I’m being sarcastic, attempting to show some of you idiots the grand end of your worthless hope and ideology. Is this really the dream that should persuade me to change my ways? I’m sorry, but I have considered the offer and find it unacceptable. I will keep the hope of my promise.

20 comments:

Tony Tuba said...

Being stubborn with no end in sight isn't smart either kurt. make a final decision and stick to it.

Gforce said...

I "quit" too.

sd said...

Come on all you bandwagon jumpers, let's all "quit".

NOT!....

hey copycat,
It seems to me that Kurt made his final decision many months ago and I don't think you need to fear that he is going to change it.

He's not following anyone into this battle and it doesn't look as though he has looked back many times to see who would join him.

I do think he enjoys a playing a good mind game once in a while though

Justice7777777 said...
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Justice7777777 said...

"a couple of years"

Ha! That was the best joke ever!

p.s. you can't quit when it is already over. Can a passanger get off the Titanic today?

Solvo said...

Updated: 03:21 PM EST
House, Senate Reach Deal to Extend Patriot Act

Sen. Arlen Specter says he doubts Patriot Act opponents would be able to sustain a threatened filibuster against the deal.

WASHINGTON (Dec. 8) - House and Senate negotiators reached an agreement Thursday to extend the USA Patriot Act, the government's premier anti-terrorism law, before it expires at the end of the month. But a Democratic senator threatened a filibuster to block the compromise.

"I will do everything I can, including a filibuster, to stop this Patriot Act conference report, which does not include adequate safeguards to protect our constitutional freedoms," said Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., who was the only senator to vote against the original version of the Patriot Act.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., announced that the negotiating committee had reached an agreement that would extend for four years two of the Patriot Act's most controversial provisions - authorizing roving wiretaps and permitting secret warrants for books, records and other items from businesses, hospitals and organizations such as libraries. Those provisions would expire in four years unless Congress acted on them again.

"All factors considered it's reasonably good, not perfect, but it's acceptable," Specter said of the agreement.

Also to be extended for four years are standards for monitoring "lone wolf" terrorists who may be operating independent of a foreign agent or power. While not part of the Patriot Act, officials considered that along with the Patriot Act provisions.

The Republican-controlled House had been pushing for those provisions to stay in effect as long as a decade, but negotiators decided to go with the GOP-controlled Senate's suggestion.

Most of the Patriot Act would become permanent under the reauthorization.

The White House applauded the agreement.

"The Patriot Act is critical to winning the war on terrorism," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "The president urges both houses of Congress to act promptly to pass this critical piece of legislation."

''All factors considered it's reasonably good, not perfect, but it's acceptable.''

-- Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., on the House-Senate agreement on the Patriot Act Feingold is not alone in his dislike of the compromise. Five other senators working against the deal joined him in a statement. "We believe this conference report will not be able to get through the Senate," they said, and they will not support it in any form.

The other senators are Republicans Larry Craig of Idaho, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Democrats Dick Durbin of Illinois and Ken Salazar of Colorado.

It takes 60 senators to overcome a filibuster in the 100-member Senate.

"I don't think there will be a filibuster," Specter said. "I don't think it will succeed if there is one."

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said the deal should satisfy everyone. "This agreement both preserves the provisions that have made America safer since 9/11 and increases congressional and judicial oversight, which should alleviate the concerns of those who believe the law enforcement tools endanger civil liberties," he said.

But the American Civil Liberties Union immediately denounced the deal, calling on lawmakers to reject the legislation because it intrudes too far into the privacy of innocent Americans.

"This sham compromise agreement fails to address the primary substantive concern raised by millions of Americans, as well as civil liberties, privacy and business organizations and lawmakers from both sides of the aisle and in both chambers," said Caroline Fredrickson, the ACLU's Washington legislative office director.

The ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, has not yet decided whether to support the agreement, a spokesman said. But the GOP-majority negotiating committee has enough votes to send the House and Senate the compromise if all of the Republican negotiators agree to it.

The Senate is expected to vote on the compromise next week, Specter said. That would give them enough time to deal with any filibuster threats before the Patriot Act provisions expire on Dec. 31.

Congress overwhelmingly passed the Patriot Act after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The law expanded the government's surveillance and prosecutorial powers against suspected terrorists, their associates and financiers.

The compromise also makes changes to national security letters, an investigative tool used by the FBI to compel businesses to turn over customer information without a court order or grand jury subpoena.

Under the agreement, the reauthorization specifies that an NSL can be reviewed by a court, and explicitly allows those who receive the letters to inform their lawyers about them.

WillToFight said...

WillToFight said...

Look, we need to do an agent/broker conference and clear up everything that is going on. Once that is done we need to stick by what we learn and stop this type of bickering.

Some of us have no choice but to continue this process to what ever end. However, it would be nice to know what is going on between this appearance of factions back and forth. It only needs to be done in another forum, not here!

Be strong lets' get this done.

Some of you know who each other are on this blog. Let connect and discuss this!

TACO you are not envited!

3:12 PM

tcob247 said...

willie

Thanks for not enviting me.

I believe there will be plenty of bickering there without me.
Good luck

son of a prophet said...

Solvo said...
Updated: 03:21 PM EST
House, Senate Reach Deal to Extend Patriot Act


FEDS: "...Yep, if we cant shut them down any other way, we'll just use the Pat(sy) Act and accuse them of running a 'money laundry'. The Pat(sy) Act allows us to shut down any moneymaking operation, whether legal or illegal, makes no difference."

"After all, our objective is to bankrupt the whole country piece by piece until theres total chaos and we can then move in with martial law (just like NawLeens)..."

Trust Me Not 2 said...

Kurt I have been with you and Scott since a year ago last July. After listening to Dr. Fred and thinking some good would come of this, especially after months of nothing I would say quiting now would not be the right thing to do. Quiting would only make what Dr. Fred said a lie. I and others don't think he lied to us. So hang in there. If what Dr Fred told us is true then you pain will be relieved.

Eric Heineman said...

Kurt, This is the best news our family has had. We cannot tell you the hurt pain and anguish we have gone thru. I cannot even imagine all of the clients hardships. We just want our brother back taking care of his family and securing a good home for his family. My dad & mom had been crushed and we as brothers are terribly saddened on what has transpired thru all of this. We have not ever wrote a letter except for this blog because of the fact on where even to start. We would like to here that both of you want to come home. If you talk to my brother or if anyone has communication with him please tell him that we miss him and wish him well thru the holidays. We did send him a picture of our new baby girl and this is what lfe is all about.

Best

Eric Heineman

gotlight said...

Does anyone know if a irrevocable trust can be foreclosed on?

neodemes said...

gotlight said...
Does anyone know if a irrevocable trust can be foreclosed on?

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Yes.

neodemes said...

actually, trusts aren't foreclosed on, the mortgage associated with the deed, is.

I assume that is what you meant.

Chris Thompson said...

My name is Chris Thompson, and I'm a reporter with the East Bay Express, a newspaper in Northern California. I'm working on a story about the Dorean Group and have been trying to contact Kurt Johnson at the Salt Lake County jail, but haven't been successful so far. Could someone connected with Kurt call me at 510-879-3766, or email me at chris.thompson@eastbayexpress.com? I'd like to find a way to talk to him.

Thanks,

Chris Thompson

neodemes said...

Chris Thompson said...
My name is Chris Thompson, and I'm a reporter with the East Bay Express, a newspaper in Northern California. I'm working on a story about the Dorean Group
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Don't forget to interview the folks that have lost their houses due to their participation in the Dorean process.

You will find many listed at http://www.rei-resource.com/rei-forum/viewforum.php?f=12

KYHOOYA said...
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KYHOOYA said...

Let me start by wishing Kurt & Scott a very merry... ah .. let's face it, Merry , There I think Not! but what there is for all seasons is you both have my ..VERY MERRY THANKS FOR ALL.and Let see a Great New Year.
What the hell you can look at the brite sid right? You don't have to out shopping with all the parking and the b.s. and you don't have to buy any ... ALL RIGHT THAT'S MAKING THING ANY BETTER SORRY, I better save it! You know what I'm tring to say, Don't you?.. It's a BITCH!.. and that's it, you fill the rest were needed I'm still looking for just the right thing for you Scoot But as for you Kurt I have it it's called the FINAL WORD kinda self explained but I'll wait to tell when I see you. I don't think they'll let you have it there any way I got it for you when your out and I'll have your's by then to scott any way CHIN UP AND ALL THAT ROUGHT AND IT WILL BE A LONG GONE MEMORY BEFOR YOU KNOW IT.

I'll leave you with this as some kind of pressant under the tree.

As I'm sure you have read the post I won't go into a big intro just the fact's ... just the facts.. as you posted and they read it was very clear too me that and should be to other of any normal 1st grade comp...
the fact that you as clients have post what was in responce to Kurts Blog Post I QUIT . YOU ARE WITHOUT ANY BRAINS AT ALL AND YOU SHOULD GET YOUR HOUSES BACK IF YOU LOST THEM .WHY YOU ASK? I'LL TELL YOU IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THE POST WAS A JOKE AND REALITY CHECK THEN THE STATE SHOULD RE CALL ALL FORECLOSERS AND RECONVEY ALL PROPORTY BACK BECASE YOU COULD NOT UNDERSTOOD THE CONTRACT AND WITHOUT A SHADOW OF WHAT MUST BE MIND NUMBING AT BEST AS I'M SURE PAINFUL AT LEAST FOR ME IT IS AS TO FACT THAT YOU COULD NOT READ THE POST OR HALF ASS IT AS WITH EVERYTHING YOU DO i QUITE SURE . YOU ARE WITHOUT RECOURSE TO EVER COME HERE AND BITCH AND COMPLAIN HOW YOPU WERE SCAMED OR HAOW YOU GOT MISS LEAD OR MISS INFORMED ANBOUT THE RISK. YOU ALL MAKE ME SICK AND THAT GO'S FAR BEYOND THE SIMPLETONS THAT FOR THE LIFE OF THEM COULD'NT READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON TOILET PAPER ROLL TO FIND WITCH END TO START FROM You shoulod take you lasy no good want to blam the world for your fucking ineptness spelled wrong so fuck you to for say so , that sorry ass I got Taken .. shit and find some small little shit hole af a town ,move there and then shot yourself for the chance that you might reproduce is so scary that i now wake in the middle of the nite in cold sweets just thinking about there could be more of you out there and doing the sameALL AND ALLL i MEAN BEFORE I GET CARRIED AWAY OR SOMETHING USEFUL LIKE THAT LET ME SAY AGAIN FUCK OFFF YOU STUIPD DUMB WINNING BITCH OF AN INGREAT THAT I AM NOW SURE WAS LOSSING THERE HOUSE LONG BEFORE EVER COMING ACROSS THE DOREAN PROGRAM AND THE FACT THAT YOU COME ON HERE AND SPEEW THAT CRAP THAT THERE SCAMM IS THE LOWEST ER EVER THING I HAVE HEARD


Now ... go... aw..way.. I can't stand the thought of you you make me sick NOW GO!


Anyway Kurt .. Scott you both have a great as much as you can holiday and i will look foreword to that party in shy town when it's all said and done anything I can do for you I am allready in the works doing so hang on it jusyt get s interesting now again realy thank for the forsite and logic to see the future and try to correct it . my best Yacky


P.s. Kurt for the record my self there's nothing init for me I was about at the door when your freind Ferral L was at the top of his I'M THE KING game and fuck up my papers so any way still think the best and will halp in anyway I can I sence gone on to somthing a little differant but very good resultes clear free & cash kinda same you take it easy and for all the dumb asses out there go E.DU CTE YOURSELF BEFORE SOMEONE DOSE GET HURT.

READ YOU SHIT FORBBRAINS JUST FUCKIN G READ AND YOU WON'T HAVE THE FUCKING PROBLEMS YOU DO READ IF YOU CAN'T READ THATN LEARN AND TFOR THE TIME INTILL YOU DSO DON'T SIGN CONTRACTS AND GET SOME ONE TO READ FOR YOU A GOOD START IS IS THE BOOK
i THINK i CAN about alittle dumb ass train how was about tyo be replace becaouse he was to slow tosmall and outdate but he was so intent on getting up that hill and you know what he did after what seemedfor ever in the story and must have been what it like to talk with you FOE EVER PAINFULLLY CLEAR THAT YOU DID NOT READ ANYTHING OR MISSTOOK ALL OF IT AND when the train got to the other side of the hill and all that work was ready to pay off it did that's right

THEY FIRED HIS SLOW DUMB FUCK SMALL ASS , THE BIG PINKM RIGHT NTHERE NO HAPPY SHIT WHEN HEPULL UP AT THE TURNAROUND RIOGHT AT THE END NO GOING HOME AND GETTING EVERYONE TOE TO SAY WHAT AGREAT JOB HE DID AND NON OF THE YOUR THE BEST I NEW YOU COULD DO IT NOPE JUST 1... BIG ..KISS OFFF Read the book it tells the story better than I do here but i hope that you got the message thaty was being put out KIKE YOUR ASS PUT OUT BITYCH SLIP PINKFUCKING ASS SHIT FOR BRAINS

OH! me! Oh! my! I'm all out of breath with all that my finger has nerver been so fast at the typing o.k. I 'm better new you want to picture EDDIE MURPHY on that one
hey guys hope you got a laugh and some vidication out of that and no you got HEART THATS FOR SURE THANK IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT YET .... L8R

I 'M AM NOT GOING TO CORRECT A DAMM,K THING ON THIS IN REGARD TO MISS SPELLINGS OR GRANMMER SENTANCE STRUCTOR PUCUATIOMN AND OR ANY FUCKING THING ELES SO IF YPOU AHAVE A PROBLEM WITHIT HAVE AT IT CORRECT AWAY BYYYY.....IF YOU THINK I HAVE TIME TO TYPE ALL THIS AND SPELL CK YOUR AS FUCK INTHE HEAD AS THE READERS THAT MORE THAN ONE AS IN PLUR i CAN'T FUCKING STILL BELEAVE THAT THEREIS MORE THAN 1 I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING AT LEAST 2 HERE THAT POSTED IF YOU DO THE NUMBERS THE PERCENTAGE MUST BE STAGERING KUrt Take That To Court & tell the them you file for your get out jail free card do to the fact that .. tell them just look i'm sure that they will see that you were fact with a stupidity facture that know one could have fore seen and that no one sould haave to be heald responcable for someone that stupid go for it I bet it works can LOL LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAGHAHAHABNGTSGHSGHGGHHHFDLOLOLOO lolollololo i still can't beleave it fuck !!! 2 da 's just on this one little old post the numbers I telling you thet must be huge HUGE!


good times see you in shy town and the band thats right perfec.... and fuck that I'm bying your room shit! you funny by my room thats a good one well hope you made it this far


My thanks two the both of youfor all the persistance even if some can't or won't see it it is seen and How can anyone beleave that your in it for themoney if so it would be all differant but you know if you got people on here that cant make it through a damm page of reading without getting it all wrong how could you think that they would be able to put 2=2 2gether right

said and said again Thanks Yacky Dam may hands hurtsfrom all this one fingered typing got to stop now am hurrting gggot stop stopme plz plz p-lz stop.........m ................... by LO but softly
and a Mimb ima terrifiuc thk to wast eeeee

all and alll N
SUPPORT HIGHER LEARNING HELP STOMP OUT IL... OH STUOID STOMPOUT STUPID STAPIT SLOIRPET .. O.K NOW i'M JUST GETTING ALITTLEL PUNCH YYY THAT IT BUYYYYY B7YHY

KYHOOYA said...

HEY:
kURT & sCOTT tHANKS HOPE YOU HAD A GOOD LAUGH AND A BETTER HOLIDAY

L8R

SHY THATS ME!

Curiousone said...

HELP! I just sold my home and it closes next week. I need to have a quit claim done directly from Scott and Kurt. Title wants to send a notary directly to them to have this done.

PLEASE could someone tell me the address for each of them? When the best time to send the notary? I need this ASAP in order for my home to be sold on time! Thank you!!!!