Wednesday, January 18, 2006

By What Law Do You Judge

There is a consistency from all commentators of the blog that proves to me we have much more in common than different. Let me call it the law of human nature. This is not a law of nature like gravity, of convenience, or a collective law by government. Behind most comments is the idea of what ought to be done. Facts vary and the interpretations of facts may polarize but all are saying “thou shalt not steal”, “you should be honest,” “greed is bad,” “Schemes that hurt people are not right.” Now in all these things supporters and detractors are in agreement. Why shouldn’t they? This law sits in our head as a schoolmaster judging us constantly and is not of our making. It is evidence of a mind and body of law outside our mind and consciousness. We all have it and wield it through opinion. Opinion is not the law but our individual expression of its effect upon us. Now I am in total agreement with all of you. Where the disputes are real is over facts. My moral law says that the banks shouldn’t steal and be honest; you say the facts point this moral law towards me and away from the banks. The government is moot on this point for they only see the banks as victims. Your moral code and its justified complaint about my dishonest gain from individuals is only a matter of inconvenience to them. Therefore, they are not the source of your angst against me. Now all claim right by this law whose author some identify as God and support it with the Bible and Christian ideology and are ridiculed. This I don’t understand since they are more like comrades in moral law and the facts disputed are of the 3-D world and not the supernatural world of moral law. Facts are then the key for agreement to application of the moral law we have all agreed to already. Facts can be understood by education or information. Attacking each other’s morals as I have seen is like slapping your own face. I personally respect and appreciate the character of people who visit here. I wish the world had more men sincere about their convictions of what they ought to do. This subject is a factual web that touches all the corners in our window of what is right and just. My stand is not to prove my detractors or the government amoral, only ignorant. You see a dung beetle thinks a ball of crap a good thing, we do not. This fact is irrelevant to the moral law but mortgage fraud or internet fraud scam pivots on this fulcrum. Do I want to change my detractors? NO! I just want to endure this struggle until the facts can no longer be disputed. Then we will find goodness behind the passion was always shared.


WillToFight said...

Again Well said Kurt. There will be argument with your words only because your words will not be thought about for an appropriate time.

And maybe that is on my part as well. But I can not help be to see as is described in your words, due to the fact that I live what is going on in your words each day.

It is not necessarily the Mortgage Co. It might be that Rent to Own down the street, or that grocerie that has to sell higher than the larger one to make ends meet.

It is in my opinion the "Conflict of Interest" again clouding the view of human to become "human in action".

I talked to a friend today. He is concerned but has much hope. That friend who i've known only from this process showed me something that has held me back for many years.

I am willing to fight but with my willingness I do not want to give up anything. I learned that sometime I must! I must just to move on to the next level.

I've taken the red pill. There is no turning back. I know (not believe), I know we are right. But that nagging conflict of interest in so many of us that would otherwise care, or recognize the greed and destruction that is inherant in this system of banking.

That "conflict of interest" afflicts those that would otherwise be good!

I'm in for the long haul and for the sake of us all!

Thanks again for those wizdomous words Kurt!

Big O & Solvo SD and everybody what up? We truly are all in this together. No matter what side you aspouse to!

I out!

yeahrightwhateverz said...

Kurt, Fred, willtofight, and all you who care to fight, I do not doubt that the banksters are corrupt. I do not doubt that the government is corrupt as evidenced in recent news. I do not doubt that Kurt and Scott are right. I do however, believe this fight will not come as quickly as others hope.

There were many who lost their homes or are still in the process of losing, who NO LONGER WANT TO FIGHT and want normalcy again. We are SICK and TIRED of WAITING. We want to put our families back in a dwelling that we once called home, not live out of an apartment, or with family or friends, and with no hope of qualifying for another mortgage due to the financial beating we received.

Kurt, You are holding out on delivering the damages so that you can maximize your return. For those who want to fight and wait it out with you, bless them for fighting this fight with you. The Administrative Remedy does not require a court battle for damages.

But for those who want OUT, I implore thee Kurt, on behalf of all those who have suffered and who were damaged, give us our opportunity to cash out NOW so that we can move on and leave you and your supporters to your battle. I dont want to wait another 2 to 12 months for this to come to conclusion. There are many here who share the same feelings.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

Stillwaiting, can you at least say what this form was or what was on it?

Tony Tuba said...

Swami can you email me at Thank you.

WillToFight said...

Yeahrightwatheverz said:

There were many who lost their homes or are still in the process of losing, who NO LONGER WANT TO FIGHT and want normalcy again. We are SICK and TIRED of WAITING. We want to put our families back in a dwelling that we once called home, not live out of an apartment, or with family or friends, and with no hope of qualifying for another mortgage due to the financial beating we received.

Hey, You acknowledge all that is going on. I am with you my friend. But, there will never be normalcy in this society ever again. Even those that live in the so-called bliss of ignorance will feel the pain of doing nothing but going along.

Don't you see that they are trying to wait us out. Why have no formal charges been lodged against Kurt or Scott. If they had legitemate charges they would have been toast by now!

We can not give up. So you keep your dwelling that only gives you 9/10th's possession the other 1/10th is "title!" Don't you ever want what you've worked for all your life to be 100% yours and be passed on to your family.

That is what was given by the Bill of Rights and Constitution of this great country.

That has been taken away by a slow designed erosion of humanity for the sake of facism and the total control of your ability to live free with liberty and sovereignty.

WHEN WILL WE STAND????????????????

son of a prophet said... the way, someone just sent me an email and it says that the old Dorena site is back up!

there may be good news for you all after all!

try to hang on if at all possible!

site was/is --->

(all one line)

Judge Roy Bean said...

Willtofight said: "Why have no formal charges been lodged against Kurt or Scott. If they had legitemate charges they would have been toast by now!

The federal charges were filed long ago in a 40+ count indictment. It's not hard to obtain a copy of it.

Kurt and Scott are guests of the Federal Marshalls as they are moved to where they will face criminal trial in the Northern District of California.

You and the other blinded sycophants need to find better sources of information to know what you're really talking about.

Kurt is a serial felon; his chances of bail are basically zero because of his utter contempt for reality and the laws he's broken.

Scott might have had a chance to help their victims by separating himself from the self-professed messiah, Kurt. A a plea bargain may have allowed him to act on behalf of the hundreds of people facing the loss of their homes.

But that isn't going to happen. Megalomania is the rule in force for Kurt and his wanton disregard for the the damage he and his dad and Scott have caused.

And a handful of follwers are willing to throw their financial state and future into chaos to avoid having to admit they were taken by your scheme.

I have no sympathy for anyone who continues to rant and rave based on the specious theories promoted by the likes of Johnson and Heineman and their tutors. You have been warned repeatedly and simply failed to take heed. If you can't admit you were taken in by a clever scheme then you can't take the steps required to resolve your problem.

It appears this blog has deteriorated into a forum for both obscenity-laced whackos and quasi-religious conspiracy-theory dogma with little or no substance.

If you are a victim of Kurt and Scott's scheme, you're going to have to admit you were scammed and get the cooperation of the business entities involved. You are victims of a hoax, perpetrated by serial scammers with past Federal convictions and new indictments from 2005.

If you don't separate yourselves from them, you too could be dragged into the net, along with the rest of the promoters.

habakkuk said...

Hey JRB,

Who do u think you are.... Darth Vader or something? "If you dont separate yourselves from them, you too could be dragged into the net....." "come over to the dark side" bla, bla, bla. Your not scarring anybody....shut your hole. We're not goin anywhere.

WillToFight said...

What I mean to say JRB is that if there was a strong solid case against Kurt $ Scott, the trial would be over, the media would be elated as you wish to be about individuals standing up against the powers that be.

It would be all over the news how the FBI busted up a multi million dollar mortgage scam!

You know it JRBASTARD. So do not try and spin my intention!


WillToFight said...

Can't you all see they are tring to push this one under the carpet.

Not too much media on this one!

The attention span of the public in reference to top media stories is about 10 days and they forget and go back to the same old rutine.

It is a shame that our individual public is so divided and programmed to believe anything that come from the mouth of an "official"

You've been had, hoodwincked, bamboosled. You are and will forever be a SLAVE to the system of control that is a will suck you and everyone you love DRY and HIGH! Stand up for someone if not yourself. What about those you love coming behind you. Do you want them programmed. Do you want them taken in as chattel in this ever debted society of phony material "dog eat dog"?

you ARE AN EXPENDABLE COMMODITY like cheese or beef. Or Cheese grapes and crackers. I like that combo late at night with tea or wine!

WillToFight said...

Name the Laws that have been broken by Kurt JRB.

Give us the list of serial felon charges and convictions.

I expect no response except nonfactual allegations.

Just because you say a thing does not make it fact/real/actual/history. Show proof!

I do not see swift justice applied to this serial felon that is locked up in a state that ultimately dropped the charges. It should have been easy to convict!

They dropped the charges. Is that not a fact, JRB?

sd said...

Judge Roy Banker rules that Kurt and Scott are guilty because they have been indicted.

Hey JRB, that fits right in there with the rest of the system you so staunchly defend.

I have stated many times that I cannot determine the motives of either Kurt or Scott, but I state again that Kurt and Scott are really not a factor as to right and wrong concerning the current state of affairs with "our" banking system.

Convolute all you desire, use misdirection and scare tactics, "Warn" people that they should not fight the powers that be. But remember that although you may call me or us crazy, our minds are no longer clouded by the diversionary tactics and propaganda of anyone defending the current system.

Judge Roy Banker, you and your kind may be in power now, but sooner or later you will be overruled by the power of the people.

It may take years, decades even but the end of this system has been doomed from the start.

You cannot put into circulation only debt based currency and not have eventual collapse.

Remember that the sovernity of the the people is where the real authority exists.

Only problem is, money has corrupted most all of the government officials to the point that they have changed the rules without the people realizing it. We have become their chattle. Unknowing slaves but slaves none the less.

One day, enough will stand to to make the over-ruling stick. They/we will fight this battle no matter the financial burden.

Then people with your views will be jumping on the bandwagon saying how much you always supported the efforts of those willing to make the necessary sacrefice to see these issues corrected.

Do you really think that if Kurt and Scott are convicted, it will end this fight?

If you do, you have really missed the real meaning of all this debate.

I'm not a promoter of any scheme, and I'm not a person given to violence, but words such as you have spoken are just a loud voice out of a mouth with no teeth. They may scare some but not this some.

Lock us all up, we are all crazy, We are all conspricy theorist.
Call me/us anything you wish, but when your children and their children find themselves as Jefferson fore-warned because of our current financial system, who's side will you be on then?

Be the government's chattle if you want to, but don't expect me to go along with you.

I may currently be a slave but I'm not a happy slave and certainly not a willing one.

ticktoc123 said...

Moral Law -What's right-religious views are all irrelevant. If this is your argument you will lose in court.
Agreed the government is corrupt. Agreed the law is controlled by selfish corrupt lawyers, judges and paid for flunkies but when you get into court you're playing by their rules and using their weapons.
In the real world David gets stomped.
The real question to me is even if the law is on our side why would these corrupt people abide by it. Eugene Debs had the law on his side when he said that the U.S. should not have entered W.W.1. The law said he had freedom of speech but despite the law and the constition he went to prison.
The fella that said the first group the House Unamerican Activities Committee should investigate should be the House Unamerican Activities Committee also went to prison despite the law.
Corruption won't respect law anymore than they will respect anything else.
We can always hope but without information - hope is akin to spitting into the wind.

Judge Roy Bean said...

Willtofight - you're still unwilling to face the facts.

Read the indictments. They're very specific as to the laws that have been broken.

Federal prosecutions are painfully slow for everyone involved. The courts are overloaded.

The Utah charges have nothing to do with the Federal charges.

Kurt and Scott are still in custody on their way to the Northern District of California.

Kurt and Fred were convicted and served time in prison for securities fraud.

On a newsworthy scale, they are small-time crooks and until they are sentenced, it is unlikely the major news media will care unless it's a consumer report on how to avoid losing your home to a scam.

believerandfollower said...

Hey JRB: What ever happened to the right to a speedy trial? And as for bail, the "system" has let far worse CRIMINALS out on bail, so why hold Kurt and Scott? Answer: it's common sense, they are on to something, so they are being held to prevent them from causing any more "harm" to the banking system. This country is going to pot.

tcob247 said...

Kurt post just in case you forgot

Sunday, October 09, 2005
We Are Close to the Finish
I have been in negotiations with the executives of the Feds, California and Utah. I am close to settling with all to put an end to this little charade. I would say about 85%. There are still a few terms left to come to agreement but I am very happy with the progress. Don’t worry, the prosecutors will be the last to know. They were just the puppets in a game way over their heads. Once finalized, they will be informed and have to act accordingly. The details of this settlement will appear on the disclosure webpage under the “client’s corner” section. Once you complete your paperwork, all credits supplied by you for our process will be returned. Please tell all clients to read this blog regularly for the future announcement. My gut feeling is about 2 more weeks to finalize the deal and 2 more weeks to set up the escrow account.

tcob247 said...

Another one from Kurt

A Prayer Request 10-20-05

I have been working on a legal weapon for nine months that is now ready to deploy. It would surely guarantee a victory but that like a stalemate versus a checkmate. My request is for wisdom since I have no peace in using this tool. God knows the path to take and a man’s soul can always be tempted by peace and comfort. Therefore ask that I be guided for the best possible outcome for all. I have about two weeks before I have to decide. Again, for those who do not have a relevant prayer life ignore this post.

tcob247 said...

Anybody remember this one from Kurt?

Saturday, July 23, 2005
“All things are well”
The office is intact and still doing what needs to be done for the clients. Updates will still be given out both here and on the conference calls that are conducted on Mondays, Wednesdays, and twice on Thursdays. I shall gladly finish my task here, so please don’t panic, all is well and it shall get even better. This matter is just the remnants of the Utah, charges which are all but settled, thus my time here will be short, I am thinking not more then perhaps 30 days. There is a good chance that Scott will be getting out prior to me.

Solvo said...

Another one from Kurt

Tuesday, January 03, 2006

TCOB247, I’m writing this from jail. You really are a dumb-ass broken record but I would like you to stay around, you’re reviling has a good purpose for me in the spirit of Shimei. Learn his story and you will know my hope for you. The insurance fraud guy said they were dismissing and my jailer has knowledge of it and repeats it. The delays may have been an attempt to get me to make a mistake which I have not done yet, which I will not do. I can do all the time I need (TCOB247) in jail to get it right and so can Scotty. TCOB247 go do your other process, make it work and then give it away for free so we can admire your virtues....

kaycee said...

Why does everyone accept the corruption? Saying "I agree the bankers and the government are corrupt, but...." No one wants it to affect their comfort zone. You know, you may not want to live in an apartment, or anywhere other than a house, but, I am thankful to have a roof over my head, Period. As long as I have that, I have resources that I can continue to fight with. Stop accepting the corruption. Stop forgetting within a few days, because it doesn't happen to be affecting YOUR life right at that moment. The corruption gets worse every day, and will continue until WE end it. I will not stop fighting the lawyers and judges who want to steal from us. Also, what do you expect the Judge on this blog to say? He is here only in an attempt to keep the wool over our eyes like all the others. I don't care about a 40 page indictment...What does that mean? Nothing. The more that's piled in that indictment is a good indicator that our government will do ANYTHING to keep the people from discovering the real issues. WAKE UP! Who is the injured party? Come forward MBNA, or Citifinancial...Oh, wait, you can't because you are a FICTION. Come forward FBI....Oh, wait, you can't because you are a FICTION. The people "representing" these fictions have no claim and no damage. Let them continue to blow smoke...just don't get caught in their screen.

tcob247 said...

Here is another one from him to me

A Simple Solution 10/05/05
I’m going to address tcob247 directly in hopes it helps those similarly situated.........
As for your $4,500 fee, I am working on a refund. I would love nothing better than to shut your stupid mouth. I have much incompetent help at the moment which causes me delay but I will reach my goal of returning every dollar collected. You guys who think 5 million is a lot of money couldn’t comprehend what motivates me. I will be a debtor to no man. There are certain conditions from a legal perspective that must be in place. The monies are already set aside.

I will "shut my mouth" when he finally keeps one of his numerous promises

WillToFight said...


The more that's piled in that indictment is a good indicator that our government will do ANYTHING to keep the people from discovering the real issues. WAKE UP! Who is the injured party? Come forward MBNA, or Citifinancial...Oh, wait, you can't because you are a FICTION. Come forward FBI....Oh, wait, you can't because you are a FICTION. The people "representing" these fictions have no claim and no damage. Let them continue to blow smoke...just don't get caught in their screen.

Tell It like it is Kaycee!

You hit the JRB (nail) right on the Head.

son of a prophet said...

why we cant end corruption....

January 19, 2006 posting ... with the latest release of an Osama Bin Laden tape aren't there a few questions that the "news" media should be asking ??? did not bush jr. claim he would have this guy over 2 years ago ... seems the sheriff has fallen down on the job ... let's face it ... bin laden is a scripted enemy ... that's what the CIA does best (create enemies to create situations to influence the dumbed down american public) ... the point is that with the patriot act about to expire, the economy in the tank and their need to start a war in iran ... seems we are in for another CIA scripted 911 ... get ready ... jim mccanney

(AND on top of all this, we must remember that this is satans kingdom to do as he pleases with until Yeshua's, if by any chance you get money from this Dorean business, just take it and run; dont look back or stop and think that you can end corruption as well. You never will. Thats why Dorean will succeed. Its already been scripted that they will. Really, all is just wealth redistribution as has been going on for eternity. In this case, the banksters/corrupt judges/FBI agents/govt. agencies are getting thrown under the bus, as their purpose and usefullness has expired. The PTB already has all the created money that anyone could ever spend in 100 lifetimes. They control all the money, gold, etc.

Next step is total control of the people; 'hello mr. govt., may I please go to the bathroom now? and may I wash my hands when I'm done? nlol (NOT lol)

Dont laugh, it is going to come to this soon.

hockeydonn said...


I fear your right and hope you are wrong.

May we all pray for his coming.

He died for me! said...

If you don't believe that the US is going to "Hell In A Handbasket" then go and read some of the stuff on this website. It will make your hair stand on end and want to fight!!

imbigo said...

Hay tcob...

I really dont have the time to go back and cut and paste, but can yoou tell me what you would have to gain from Kurt keeping any promises? and if you do have something to gain why would you be so hell bent on discrediting this process?

maybe this question will give you something new to talk about!!!

tcob247 said...


I believe thousands of people would have benefited had Kurt kept any of his promises.

It's not just me.

He promoted this as a successful process.


son of a prophet said...

He died for me! said...

If you don't believe that the US is going to "Hell In A Handbasket" then go and read some of the stuff on this website. It will make your hair stand on end and want to fight!!

2:20 PM

NO! YOu dont want to fight (physically). You cannot win. If you become a serious threat, youll just be killed. I am not talking about legal/administrative remedy here, or such, but physical fighting.

Remeber, "...he who lives by sword, shall perish by it."


Right now Yeshua thru the Holy Spirit is protecting His own just fine. Those who are doing HIs will, should have no fear.

On the other hand, those who are not doing His will, (see above; banksters, etc.) should have plenty to fear as thier usefullness is aoubt to expire, as will they. Only those who do His will are going to useful and survive as the time line is nearing the end.

Having said this, even those doing His will are going to have a rough go of it, VERY rough. But, they will survive.

Remember, Yeshua's life is one of suffering, suffering AND more SUFFERING. Most do not understnad this. Soon they will. Alive but sufering. some perhaps will choose death and no suffering to alive and suffering; the choice is theirs.

But remember, "...he who survives till the end shall receive the crown of life."

But, even this God has scripted. He already know who is going to make it to the end, and sadly who will not.


son of a prophet said...

this was sent to me from a woman I know.

feel free to copy and send to your online freinds or in person.


Let's see

To the special people in my life, I am sending this to you to see how many of you actually read your email. Is anyone really out there? Your response will be interesting! Pay close attention to what you read. After you have finished reading it, you will know the reason it was sent to you!

Here it goes:

People come into your life for a Reason, a Season, or a Lifetime. When you know which one it is for a person, you will know what to do for that person.

When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed.

They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally, or spiritually.
They may seem like a Godsend, and they are! They are there for the reason you need them to be.
Then, without any wrong doing on your part, or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand.
What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered, and now it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has come to share, grow, or learn. They bring you an experience of peace, or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done.
They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it! It is real! But, only for a season.

LIFE TIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons: things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person, and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.
Thank you for being a part of my life!

Send it to every friend that you have online, including the person who sent it to you.

0 Replies - you may need to work on your "people skills"

2 Replies - you are nice but probably need to be more outgoing

4 Replies - you have picked your friends well

6 Replies - you are down right popular

8 Replies or More - you are totally awesome (and that's probably why you're on MY list.

Gforce said...

"Come now, you rich people, weep aloud and lament over the woes that are SURELY coming upon you....Here are the wages that you have withheld by FRAUD....crying out for vengeance; and the cries of the harvesters have come to the ears of the Lord of hosts....You have fattened yourselves for the DAY OF SLAUGHTER". James 5 "....woe to him who piles up promissory notes for usury..." Habakkuk 2 Amp. ----JRB, I'll bet that you wish God had not really said this, but he did, and the people win. God called this battle won BEFORE it even started.

son of a prophet said...

gforce said.....

"Here are the wages that you...."

SOaP says.....



son of a prophet said...

Found this an interesting article, considering tht the writer himself is Jewish.

'The Jewish
Banker Conspiracy'
Understanding Anti-Semitism

By Henry Makow PhD

Just mention the "Jewish Banker Conspiracy" and you'll be as popular as a skunk at a garden party. Tolerant sophisticated people dismiss this concept as a hateful and tired cliche. They believe "anti-Semites" should be slandered, sent to jail and lose their livelihood.

But what if there actually *were* a "Jewish Banker Conspiracy?" Then these sophisticates would have egg on their face, wouldn't they? They'd be exposed as rubes, victims of a stereotypical Jewish deception achieved by mass media coincidentally owned by these very same bankers.

The "Jewish Banker Conspiracy" is *not* a chimera. It is the plan of Rothschild-controlled central bankers to create a totalitarian system to protect their illegal private monopoly of the world's credit. They print government currency for the price of the paper and then lend it to the government with interest.

In the words of Bill Clinton's mentor, Georgetown University professor Carol Quigley, who was an insider, the plan is "nothing less than to establish a world system... able to dominate the political system of each country." They plan to control the whole system in "a feudalistic manner by the central banks of the world working in concert (and) by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences." ('Tragedy and Hope', p. 324)

The central banking families and their allies used their unfair advantage to gain a monopoly on the world's wealth and a stranglehold on culture and politics. To make us accept their "New World Order," (a.k.a. globalization) they need to divide and degrade humanity by destroying the four pillars of our personal identity and social cohesion: nation, race, religion and family.

They sponsor Communism, Zionism, Socialism, Neo Conservatism, Liberalism, Feminism, Multiculturalism and "Diversity" to achieve this purpose. (Socialism substitutes government for family.) They sponsor terrorism (incl. 9-11), revolutions, wars and depressions and may be planning another world war.

Anti-Semitism is caused because Jewish idealists, opportunists and dupes play a prominent role in the above movements, especially Communism. As the New World Order becomes more onerous, anti-Semitism will inevitably increase. Jews need to acknowledge this rather than pretend "anti-Semites" are hallucinating. On the other hand, "anti-Semites" need to stop generalizing. Jews are very far from being cohesive.

Jews are fleeing Jewish organizations in droves. According to a 2001 survey, 25% of the roughly 5 million American Jews identify with another faith. Another quarter are "secular" leaving just 51% to say they are Jewish by religion. One half of all Jews intermarry and three-quarters of these raise their children in another religion.

The majority of Jews probably would oppose the banker agenda if they understood it. I was heartened to hear Texe Marrs say recently that only 5% of Jews are aware of the big picture. Yet the other 95% may suffer if they continue to be indifferent to what is happening.


Many "anti-Semites" like Texe Marrs and Des Griffin believe that the Jewish Pharisees accepted the offer from Satan that Jesus rejected: "I will give you the Kingdom of the World (i.e. Money, Power) if you obey me." They believe Talmudic Judaism is dedicated to enthroning Lucifer and always has conspired to destroy Christianity. The recent treatment of Christmas is proof that they are not hallucinating.

I am just beginning this immense study and shouldn't be mistaken for an expert. My present hypothesis is that enthroning Satan/Lucifer really means enthroning man in the role of God. This is called Illuminism. (Hence, the "Enlightenment.")

God is rejected. God represents the natural development of mankind through adherence to spiritual absolutes like morality, justice and truth.

A strong element in Talmudic Judaism restricts the definition of "man" to Jews. Thus, the course of human history can be seen as the replacement of God with man, and "man" with Jews (or man becomes Jewish.) Everything we call "modern" speaks to the banishment of God from the universe and the attempt to fill the void with the utterances of men/Jews/illuminists. That's why so much of modern culture is a fraud.

Israel Shamir has suggested that the Jewish Holocaust is being used to deify Jews. The holocaust replaces the crucifixion as a sacred symbol of God-sacrifice. The Holocaust Museums are the temples.

Those Jews who welcome this scenario might be in for a rude awakening. The definition of Jewish is blurred. As I have suggested elsewhere, the central bankers have forged alliances based on money, marriage and cabalistic Freemasonry with the leading families of Europe and America.

When gold is God, the extremely rich are the "Chosen People." This myth, together with the Talmudic and Cabalistic traditions, is a perfect mechanism for elite totalitarian control. According to Israel Shahak, Talmudic Judaism has always provided a model for a closed oppressive society.

"Zionism is but an incident of a far reaching plan," said leading American Zionist Louis Marshall, counsel for bankers Kuhn Loeb in 1917. "It is merely a convenient peg on which to hang a powerful weapon."

In other words, the whole Jewish enterprise, Judaism etc. may be a "powerful weapon" to enthrone a rule of the super rich, who are "Jewish" mainly by virtue of wealth. But the average Jew will take the flack in the form of anti-Semitism.

For example, the British royal family sees itself as descending from the House of David. A Jewish Mohel circumcised Prince Charles. Are the Windsor's Jewish? (Douglas Reed, Somewhere South of Suez, p.356.)

Henry Kissinger once said, "a people who have been persecuted for 2000 years must be doing something wrong." His unsympathetic attitude may reflect that of his employers, the Illuminati bankers.

What could Jews be doing wrong?
Answer: Trusting their "leaders."

See also my "The Riddle of Anti-Semitism"

I will be discussing these issues with Jeff Rense on his program Tuesday Jan 17 at 10 pm Eastern.

Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only.

Tony Tuba said...
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Tony Tuba said...

This is my "Blows" List.

1. The 5 day work week.

2. My ex girlfriend when you got her drunk.

3. Hairy Snatch

4. Bin Laden (Love The Caveman Look Benny)

5. Citibank

6. A ninety dollar satellite bill.

7. My sister(When you got her drunk) Not me mind you!

8. Bad singers
a. Tom Petty
b. Bob Dylan
c. Bruce Springsteen

9. TCOB. And not in a good way.

tcob247 said...

Tony Fubu

The feeling is mutual.

neodemes said...

8. Bad singers
a. Tom Petty
b. Bob Dylan
c. Bruce Springsteen

And their laughing...all the way to the bank.

What's your claim to fame?

neodemes said...



Ace said...

son of a prophet, That was an excellent post. If every American knew these things we would be living in a much better country. The people would burn every bank to the ground and then burn their mortgages. Politicians would be swinging from trees and the us government INC. would no longer exsist. From what I have read I believe the Windsors are in fact jewish. The ones to fear however are the Rothschilds. They own about one half of the wealth of the world right now and they will do anything to get the other half. They are the ones who receive a large chunk of every mortgage payment made everywhere on this planet. If you haven't read about them yet I would suggest buying Lucifer's Children by Milan Martin, Conspirators Heirarchy by Dr. John Coleman, The World Order by Mullins, The Mark of the New World Order by Terry Cook, Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Springmeier, and Codex Magica by Texe Marrs. It took me a long time to learn that there is nothing new about the "New World Order." It has been around and gathering power since God played ten pin with the Tower of Babble. These people have taken our gold, taken our silver, taken our freedom, taken our government, and last but not least they are now coming for our land.

believerandfollower said...

TCOB: Have you NOTHING better to do with your time except to go back and re-post Kurt's comments? Give him time - it's a little hard to get things done from where he sits. You know what they say about the fat lady.

Clueless Fudd said...

believerandfollower said...
TCOB: You know what they say about the fat lady.

No jokes about tcob's wife, please!

Stillwaiting said...

SOP and Ace.......
The reason people don't stand up is for fear of losing. Losing their freedom. What if they are wrong. What if they can't prove their point. What if they do but still go to jail. I believe the system is broken and we the public are taking it in the shorts. However, are you willing to go in front of the system and give up what might be everything you own to fight them. I think for the most part we aren't that brave.
Their are those that have beaten the system against the IRS/Banks/courts. But they are far and few between. Even with them beating the aforementioned people are still not going to put their lives on the line. I once told my neighbor about the IRS and he told me not only did he know he told me of someone who beat them in court. This guy proved that he didn't have to pay taxes and won. What was the cost of doing that? Bankruptcy. He won and lost and yet no one follows him. Why?
I believe Kurt and Scott are/were on the right track but not sure they could see the finish line. I have posted before this question to them. If you can't complete your mission then say so. If you can then say that. However, Since I have been following the posts (late November) I have not seen one thing from Kurt, Scott or Dr. Fred that is even a glimmer of hope in the possibility that we are going to see the cancellation of our mortgages for that which we have paid.
This post is not a slam to anyone who either reads or writes in this forum. It is just that over the last 3 years with all of the programs I have been involved in I have yet to see any of them return anything for that which I have already paid.

tcob247 said...

Hey clueless pud

Did you know that Kurt posted about you?

he said..."You see a dung beetle thinks a ball of crap a good thing"

yeahrightwhateverz said...

This is Kurts battle. Not one of us can fight this for him. There is nothing we can do at our level but root for, pray for, or condemn Kurt as testimony on this blog. Only he knows his victory or defeat. Fred said in one of his communication letters that there will be NO need to support Dorean, Kurt, Scott, or Dorean from here on out.

Kurt has prepared for this battle not us. His outcome is NOT dependant on our support for or against him. If you freedom fighters want to wait for the outcome of the Federal case, then so be it. However, others DO NOT. If you feel so strong about fighting against the PTB for your rights, then stand up for yourself, pick a topic and do what Kurt did instead of riding his coat tails talkin shit like your all that.


I think it is funny how people come out here pounding their chests and talk big talk without having lost anything but a small investment. Come back after losing everything such as your home, credit, reputation etc., and then you can talk shit all day long.

imbigo said...


Just so you know I have lost a home before, But to the bankers that had no right to my home. And after what I've learned during this process I would never let that happen again, thats why I support Kurt and Scott and Dr. Fred. I dont call myself a expert in the process, but I'm learning more every day, and every day I'm seeing how the banks and mortgage industry are the scammers.

Also everybody is a coat rider in one way or another, there has been many trailblazers in this country, and even you are riding somebodies coat!

God Bless

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1



yeahrightwhateverz said...

Big O, sorry but your analogy is apples to oranges. Kurt was not responsible for you losing your other home. You were not subjected to and dependant on Kurts many empty promises.

Oh, and I dont disagree that I am unfortunately dependant on Kurt. But you all talk about fighting the PTB. The main difference is that I and others are tired of this shit and dont want to be held as collateral in this battle, so quit grouping us into an us vs. them. All we want is our damages, what was promised to us and then we are out, gone, see ya. You guys can stay and fight your battle, from the safety of your home computers.

imbigo said...


I fill for you on your lost, like I said I've been there. But when I first joined this process and was told that at a certain point I would be asked to stop making payments, we said we would put those funds that would go to our payment in a seperate account"JUST IN CASE" something backfired, Thank God I never stopped making payments and I can sit a wait to see what the ends going to be.

But even if you have a problem believing Kurt, you would think that you've done enough research to see that this process is going to work, however I do again fill for ALL those who lost thier HOMES I would'nt wish that on anyone, not even tcob!

So you do what ever it takes for you to get your family back in order and remember those of us that are still in this process want to be here, nobody has a gun to anyones head here.

GOD Bless...

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1



getmeoffthisride said...

Refi if you have to YRWE, that's what we're doing and it looks as if we'll be keeping out home. PTL! Either way, I suppose, it would still be a PTL!!

son of a prophet said...

PTL Ministries...wasnt that Jim & Tammy Bakkers old gig?

while youre waiting for your moongages to clear, this should put a few eggs in your basket...

go here --->

sd said...

Does anyone know who made the following statement?


Do you know what happened to the person that made this public statement while accepting a prominent political position?

"By the experience of commercial nations in all ages it has been found that gold and silver afford the only safe foundation for a monetary system. Confusion has recently been created by variations in the relative value of the two metals, but I confidently believe that arrangements can be made between the leading commercial nations which will secure the general use of both metals. Congress should provide that the compulsory coinage of silver now required by law may not disturb our monetary system by driving either metal out of circulation. If possible, such an adjustment should be made that the purchasing power of every coined dollar will be exactly equal to its debt-paying power in all the markets of the world.

The chief duty of the National Government in connection with the currency of the country is to coin money and declare its value. Grave doubts have been entertained whether Congress is authorized by the Constitution to make any form of paper money legal tender. The present issue of United States notes has been sustained by the necessities of war; but such paper should depend for its value and currency upon its convenience in use and its prompt redemption in coin at the will of the holder, and not upon its compulsory circulation. These notes are not money, but promises to pay money. If the holders demand it, the promise should be kept."

Solvo said...

Judge Roy Bean said...
Of course, the incriminating material on Farrel’s ccrescam web site finally became too hot to keep up there; either that or someone finally convinced the knucklehead he was violating the court order.


Since your delusion and obvious ignorance of the law is at it again, I was asked to give you this link which has been up and running since the beginning of the month. So if you think there is a violation of the TRO or any other code, rule or regulation you think you know a little something about, PROVE IT! And in the words of your favoite meal which so happens to be dog food.....Come and get it!

neodemes said...

So, why doesn't good 'ole FLEECE use as the web site Kurt says he needs to make good on his promises.


He can even make a couple of bucks off the DVD's to help make his Benz payments.

How 'bout it FLEECE? Hook your brother Kurt up.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I had a tender moment this morning. I ate breakfast at Whataburger with my family. Tenderness..............togetherness. About an hour later, it appeared time for nature to take it's course. I took a bathroom break. When I was finished, I noticed one floating by itself. I named the loner "Nemo". As the flushing commenced and the spinning began.....I said......"Set Sail Old Friend.......Set Sail."

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Creator of:

The Puerto Rico Scam.

The Bed Wetter Threads.

Antarctic Boy - John 2004.


Santa Damaged My Roof - Insurance Claim

The Butt Boil Telethon.

Author of "My Left Nut: Can Someone Lend Me A Hand"

The Doctor Dollar Saga.

Neodemes Cleaned My Windshield.

Inventor of The Sarahsmom Doll

The Coup D'Etat of Propertysites.

The Swami Room.

The Taco Bell Arrest.

Swami Denied Bail.

The Good Sh*t Lawsuit.

Set Sail Old Friend

Project Banker Brain


~~The Swami~~~ said...

That looks like a question mark at the bottom of that list. You don't suppose I'm going to pull another you?

KYHOOYA said...

to whom it may concern:

After reading the many times you have posted here I can't help but wounder for sometime now why it is that you are lacking in money to pay your mortgage back, what did the money get spent on that would have used for your normal payment? Let me also state for the record that I also feel your frustration to some valid complaintin this prosses to. With that said, I also understand the need to point a finger. But the truth of the matter is as you've posted you've looked at many programs in the past and with doing so would most certainly have the knowledge and background coming into this process knowing that nothing is guaranteed. That would be the basic experience anyone would certainly have, probably a lot more. With that experience and education you would have had to of came in with it least some skepticism and with that would put your payment away somewhere so that in case of emergency, As it was stated before you would have it to recover from any problems. The loss of your home although devastating was something for my viewpoint that was inevitably going to happen. As is the case with most, including myself is people don't go out looking for mortgage elimination programs when they're not in some kind of financial trouble in the first place. Now I'm sure it you won't agree with this and that you suffered enough not to be badgered by me or anyone else, So I will please keep in mind this is not what I'm intending to do. At this point it does not seem like it's a possibility to recover your home from what you have said and this may be putting the carrage before the horse but just in case there is some window some of this might help if not for the future maybe. I will start with had you at the beginning of the process of foreclosure spent more time trying to find a remedy that relying on someone to remedy it for you, mind you that was promised as you have said,but how I see it this was more so the doing of th promoting part of this programand the marketing end and I do agree with you, this was done by misdirecting and was way out of line. So you most certainly do have a grievance there. I don't on the other end think there was the intent by Kurt or Scott to ever not come thru with what thyey said was to happen way they never saw this wall of effort to stop them coming is beyond me. and with that you have a piont of contention I agree there is some responsibility for their lack of foreseeable and the steps necessary to combat that whatever means. Although this all being true there is also some responsibility that falls on you. For example the foreclosure and you were foreseeable risk and effort into place to minimize along with reasonable sensibility that anyone would have in regards to the single largest investment one normally has home and being that steps should have been first and foremost thought before starting. Although Miss marketed and advertised as in the coming or close to anything that was promised by the promoters this falls under do you believe everything you read or see on a commercial or at a magazine or any of the other numbers of media better available daily you read and I'm sure as you read these advertisements you do not buy or believe everything someone another tell you to purchase, the chance of that is pretty slim but yet there are hundreds of ads around the country to promote one another thing to be not true every day even prosecutors will tell you that there is some reasonable reliance on common sense. There was on the other hand a couple of things that could have been done possibly giving you another 90 days with the present that reopen to the courts through bankruptcy with a possible buyer and then there need for time for them secure financing that would take a least 90 days after that 90 days it would have taken another 30 to 60 commence with the foreclosure giving you almost six months in which time you could of spent gathering the needed funds to bring your mortgage current. This not working you could also brought a suit against the mortgage company and possibly delay by that means. You could a postponed the foreclosure by requesting the lender to produce the original note, this being hard to do and and also this part may not happened yet it was certainly in the process that being with Florida's court ruling that Mers could not proceed with any foreclosures due to the fact they were not the note holder therefore were not entitled to foreclose on anyone. This ruling has put a stop to all foreclosures in Florida that Mers was in the process of for future at least for now. As were all aware of the bankers won't stay quiet for long. I know it's hard enough at the time when your going through it, with the stressful environment and the emotional attachment would make this a hard time for anyone to come up with these remedies or any other and find competent legal help in regard to the lending institutions is by no means an easy task, as I am sure the bar he owns by the Bank makes this a touchy area for attorneys in general something I just learned to be the case just recently. As I said I do understand your frustration to this process and you are free to do whatever you deem you need for your solace. part of the point that I'm tring to make here is again there is some responsibility on behalf of the markers and promoters for their misinformation and although it seems Kurt is not following through with what he's promised and I would hope that to changes very soon although there is also one promise that he is keeping, be that as it may buy a his will or not due to his (Now.. let's see... how would old "Tin Cup Begging" say it) Jail! circumstances, I need to be anything when your in Jail!.( I think that's just how he sounds , Right?) It would take lot for any man to step up with the knowledge of the outcome of its penalties and as many have stated with his prior record for similar crimes to start out with the same crime would certainly be idiotic and I think all will agree the word stupid and Kurt don't go together and you agree with that it should go without saying he must have believed in as much of his promoting than anyone else for the practice he put everything out on the line knowing full well he would be an easy target for the FBI and bankers and pretty stupid move certainly shows you that he believed he could fend them off better and with more confidence than anyone else . I will wish you well and hope that the light at the end of the tunnel comes to you sooner and brighter. Again please don't take this as trying to badger you because that is not my intention. Myself I don't believe this to be a scam, I believe it started with all the good intention but fell short of the foresight to see the efforts that would be sent to dismantle it. An earlier post it was said that they had decided to take their payment and put away to the chance this did not work,not wanting to lose anything I did that also and believe that anybody getting involved would have done the same thing if they had that money to do it with. With that said delegate that time you have in the direction of a positive nature on an upward climb is something I would be doing in your place but that is your choice as well aware. As you said what's going to happen with Kurt and Scott and the rest is out of any of our hands and we will all to get to wait and see this not the easier for some that others and understandably so while waiting there are certainly better uses in our time. everything takes effort and what brought you here in the first place is what should keep motivated to not have it ever happen again. You said some young kids what others of power at loss-making will certainly affect them to. So I will end again wishing you well and a very prosperous future. Please feel free as I'm sure you will to correct me if you feel that any thing I've said not close to the truth. But again I'm not here to badger and certainly wish you know ill will, I guess was just your post on the topic probably more directed at others then you I have a sore spot for. L eight R


tcob247 said...


That was the best post you have ever done!

Guess what

I agree with you 100%

Are you suprised?

You hit the nail on the head in every single point you made

I couldn't have said it better myself

Have a good day

getmeoffthisride said...

Son of Prophet - PLEASE, PLEASE, tell me the RIGHT way to say PRAISE THE LORD OR PRAISE GOD!! I didn't realize that the Bakker's coined in on the phrase. Shame on me. I suppose we should do it YOUR way.

Judge Roy Bean said...

Solvo - that's just LeCompte's "from the desk of" forum ramblings, with only one (and erroneous) post from early this month.

The information about the program, the part that could be construed as promoting the scam in violation of the court order was taken down long ago, as you well know.

It appears several people here don't quite know the full history of these schemes and still think the promoters are now somehow blindsided by the legal system.

These kinds of debt-elimination schemes have been circulating in one form or another for years and have landed a few folks in prison or they were slapped with stiff financial judgments.

And before there was such a thing as the Dorean Group your pal Kurt was playing fast and loose with the truth on behalf of other people, apparently "refining" the trust process but sending people into serious legal trouble - including with the IRS. And of course, no one could ever find the elusive Trustee, Mr. Johnson, when the rotary fecal distributor really started up.

History has a way of repeating itself.

Kurt adopted and has now trapped himself into a fundamentally flawed and legally laughable mythology involving all kinds of silly conspiracies and theories that have been shot down in court over and over. But his ego will simply not let him back out now that he's decided to become a martyr for a cause - one that is meaningless. But it's now his cause, and it won't matter who else gets taken down by following the same screwed up path to self destruction.

The hard-core schemers aren't ready to abandon their efforts on the Internet quite yet. There's just too much easy money to be made from people gullible enough to buy into the idea that some guy with a web site has all the secrets that you aren't supposed to know about. And if there aren't any real secrets, they'll make 'em up!

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son of a prophet said...

getmeoffthisride said...

Son of Prophet - PLEASE, PLEASE, tell me the RIGHT way to say PRAISE THE LORD OR PRAISE GOD!! I didn't realize that the Bakker's coined in on the phrase. Shame on me. I suppose we should do it YOUR way.

7:25 AM

easy there!

I guess because I usually write in very serious tones, that when I go light once in a while, no one recognizes it.

You can say PTL anytime you like and you can even say it YOUR WAY!

There now, are you happy!? :-)

this blog should become a religious blog, as there hasnt been any real ME info in what seems like months......

whats that Mexican dish, "refried beans"? ....well, these beans have been fried over so many times they dont even look like beans anymore.....the same old tired stuff is just recycled over and over and I know that its just maybe one or two posters impersonating many different ones despite their feeble attempts to disguise their tomes and grammar/spelling ability (purposeful misspelling to conceal identity) the way, anyone catch any eggs in the basket??

getmeoffthisride said...

Thanks, yes, now I'm happy. Sorry, too, just the defensive side coming out in me!!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Judge.......Two Words.........

Breath Mints

son of a prophet said..., for some VERY serious stuff...

A Bella Ciao article (specifically point #3) today alleges that U.S. banks are receiving instructions from the Department of Homeland Security that in event of an economic collapse, bank officials may be told not to allow people to remove gold (and we assume silver) from their safe deposit boxes. Now, this is only an allegation, but it's something to ask yourself: If there were a breakdown of civil order, how would you fare? Ask your bank next time you go in there.

Part of the reason why the US Dow Industrials blew off more than 200-points in the Friday frenzy was the word that Iran is moving virtually all of its financial assets to Asia, a move that is synonymous with throwing in with China/Russia as we postulated earlier in the week.

imminent collapse of US economy link here ---->

(by the way, this is one of the reasons why Dorean WILL succeed; you will be paid off in virtual "monopoly money"; less than worthless. hmmm???? can something be less than worthless?)

son of a prophet said...

For those who cannot paste the article link, I present the article here:

January Saturday 21st 2006 (01h49) :
Collapse of U.S. Economy Imminent
63 comment(s).
In its attempt to establish a world empire dominating every nation on the planet, the U.S. has exhausted its ability to finance the expansion and the country now faces imminent financial collapse. From all indications, it looks like 2006 will spell the end for America.
Consider these five important points:

Point #1 The U.S., Great Britain and Israel are preparing to attack Iran. As it appears the main reason for invading Iraq was to stop it from selling oil in Euros, likewise Iran has plans to dump the dollar come March 2006.

Point #2 U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow issued a warning recently that the U.S. Government is on the verge of collapse - as the statutory debt limit imposed by Congress of $8.184 trillion dollars would be reached in mid-February - the government would then be unable to continue its normal operations. Considering the current total U.S. debt stands at $8.162 trillion dollars, once the official debt ceiling ($8.184 trillion) is reached, the U.S. government’s credit abroad (its borrowing power) is gone. Those countries (mainly China) who presently keep America afloat by holding U.S. Treasury Notes, will most likely no longer continue doing so.

Point #3 Bank Of America and Compass Bank managers (probably all other U.S. banks too) have been instructing their employees in the last few weeks on how to respond to customer demands in the event of a collapse of the U.S. economy - specifically telling the employees that only agents from the Department Of Homeland Security will have authority to decide what belongings customers may have from their safe deposit boxes - and that precious metals and other valuables will not be released to U.S. citizens. The bank employees have been strictly prohibited from revealing the banks’ new "guidelines" to anyone. (however, employees have been talking to friends and family)

The next time you visit your bank, ask them about it - then ask yourself, why is this information being kept secret from customers and the public - what’s really going on?

Point #4 FEMA has activated and is currently staffing its vast network of empty internment camps with armed military personnel - unknown to most Americans, these large federal facilities are strategically positioned across the U.S. landscape to "manage" the population in the event of a "terrorist" attack, a civilian uprising, large-scale dissent ,or an insurrection against the government. Some of these razor-wired facilities have the capacity of detaining a million people.

Point #5 The Patriot Act and the US Senate’s vote to ban habeas corpus (Nov 14th) - along with George W. Bush having signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act, have together pretty much destroyed any notions of freedom and justice for Americans.

Summary: The U.S. economy is broken, the United States is bankrupt - the unchecked spending by this administration, the illegally waged wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, the cost of unprecedented weapons and military build-up - have all contributed to an irreversible emergency which is threatening our nation’s existence and our very lives.

Hospitals are closing, major corporations are declaring bankruptcy and/or moving their companies overseas, the monopolized news media spews nothing but lies, and our fearless leaders have turned out to be only ruthless criminals hell-bent on destabilizing our country and robbing us all.

Be aware - we stand at the threshold of total ruin - the international bankers and war profiteers care little for our lives and families - these demons worship money and all things vile and evil - they have very much to gain from war, misery, disease, famine, chaos and death (our deaths).

We are right on the edge - the Treasury is already overextended - the U.S. government cannot (and will not) care for its own citizens’ needs, nor secure our borders against illegal aliens - plus, the whole "terrorist" thing is a cruel hoax perpetrated against a trusting citizenry - and only designed to instill fear and garner support for the genocide taking place in Iraq.

Should America (along with British & Israeli forces) launch a war against Iran, or another country, without yet paying for, or even recovering from the current losses in Iraq and elsewhere - the costs of such of an invasion will overwhelm an already crippled economy and push the U.S. over the edge into oblivion.

Question: Considering the U.S. Treasury Notes that China currently holds (which keeps the U.S. economy going)...

Do you think China will continue to support a country’s economy (the U.S.) whose military launches a nuclear strike against its neighbor (Iran) - thus delivering a blanket of radioactive fallout over western Chinese provinces - killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of its citizens?

I think not.

Factoring in the aforementioned points of "preparation" engineered by U.S. authorities, I’d say there’s a stinking rat in the woodpile ...can you smell it too?

# # #

By : notepad
January Saturday 21st 2006

justthinkin' said...

JRB sounds very level-headed and interested in facts. Your lack of emotion lends to your credibility as well.

After hearing about the "all caps" and "fiction" methods used in court I did some research and found this website. There's a huge index of court cases, etc. where someone spent years researching all these legal manuevers as well as "sovereign citizen" theories and many, many similar topics. I'm hoping that Scott and Kurt did even more homework than they said.

Anyone care to comment on the site? It's quite extensive, though now dated.

justthinkin' said...

Oops, the site is:

Solvo said...

Judge Roy Bean said...
Solvo - that's just LeCompte's "from the desk of" forum ramblings, with only one (and erroneous) post from early this month.

The information about the program, the part that could be construed as promoting the scam in violation of the court order was taken down long ago, as you well know.

That information was removed LONG before you posted this on your pathetic blog, so what does that say about your timing? It seems that you are facinated with all of the major players in dorean, so that must be the reason on posted that crap so late.

NeMo, have you gotten a modern haircut yet?

dgwondering said...

Son of a Prophet - thanks for providing more drivel that helps people realize how far off into the weeds you idiots are. The more people like you post the fewer intelligent, educated and rational people will pay attention to that kind of bullshit.

son of a prophet said...

thanx dg,

here is some more dribble for ya.......


I want to mention a couple of things dealing with the financial aspects of NESARA that I read about recently. I saw in a post or an article on the internet that there were some areas in Los Angeles where the banks were zeroing out credit card debt and forgiving home mortgages in some cases. Supposedly this was a test run for some of the banks in the area for the implementation of NESARA. If anyone has any credible evidence on this I would appreciate information emailed to me. Also, to me, Greenspan’s announced retirement in January is a sign that the FRB is soon to be history as well. If you haven’t read the excellent article at on Greenspan’s retirement here is the link >

ALL these are signs that NESARA is at the door!

full article here --->

(paste one line at a time)

habakkuk said...

Son of a Prophet,

I read that!!! Could it be? I havnt heard of the NESARA until now. But then i remembered a Kim Clement prophecy......

Kim Clement prophesied on April 16, 2005:

"A miracle shall happen in the banking and the stock exchange......It will change because Greenspan shall go. For there is something different that shall come in its place and there will be economic revival for this nation". (short version) (click PROPHECY link and then find the date April 16, 2005)

and check out this site:

habakkuk said...

I just caught something else on that site. Go to:
It shows photos of a billboard truck with the NESARA message on it parked right in front of the Capital building. The date on it is the same week when Kim Clement prophesied that last April '05.

neodemes said...

solvo said...

Very little, actually.

hey, why the obsession with men's hair-styles, girly-man?


So, solvo, did you ever explain your lie, I mean, inaccuracy, about the DVD being free? Maybe you missed my question before...


neodemes said...
Hey, solvo, what happened to the free DVD's in streaming audio?


Solvo said...

TRUTH: Kurt is making an "offer" to people who would like to continue their quest for truth. The DVD's will be FREE on the website in streaming audio.

Ace said...

Judge Roy Beanbag, I don't know what bank or federal agency you work for but you are living proof that a woman should never give birth to a child when she has syphilis. If that didn't happen then somebody punched her in the belly at nine and a half months and you were blown out the back door along with a lot of baked beans. Why don't you take your mentally challenged ass out of here forever. You are so pathetic I would almost tend to believe that you are a federal court judge.

Ace said...

Son of a profit you hit the nail on the head again. NO ONE should have ANY PRECIOUS METALS in a bank "safe" deposit box. When government agents clean out the boxes you will get a receipt for the face value of the coins. You will get fifty federal reserve notes for the fifty dollar gold coins you paid five hundred federal reserve notes for. They did it in 1933 and they WILL do it again.

son of a prophet said...

ace said...

You will get fifty federal reserve notes for the fifty dollar gold coins you paid five hundred federal reserve notes for. They did it in 1933 and they WILL do it again.

10:39 PM

SOaP says....

ace, I know that they did this in '33, but I dont know if they could pull off this stunt agian today. People are a lot wiser and would revolt and moreover, as gun control has failed, people are armed and would outnoumber the feds.

True, they could go to all out lockdown, but in that case, having gold or anything else besides food and shelter wouldnt mean much anyway. Cant eat gold if you have no food.

Yes, its going to get ugly though. As the "jews who say they are jews, but are not, but are form the synagouge of satan" get exposed, they are going to take everyone and everything down with them. Thats why the bible says that jews will turn against jews. What it really means is that 'fake' jews will turn against the true ones. The fake jews are the ones that have infiltrated. Problem is that only God knows who the real ones are; its His business and His only to deal with who the real and phony ones are. But we know that most of the banksters are the phony ones who want to enslave the real ones and have....up until now....

BTW, where can I buy $50 gold pieces for $500?? I will mortgage my house to the max and buy all I can. (then I will put my mortgage thru the ME process! lol)

Solvo said...

neodemes said...
So, solvo, did you ever explain your lie, I mean, inaccuracy, about the DVD being free? Maybe you missed my question before...


neodemes said...
Hey, solvo, what happened to the free DVD's in streaming audio?


Solvo said...

TRUTH: Kurt is making an "offer" to people who would like to continue their quest for truth. The DVD's will be FREE on the website in streaming audio.

Is is stated anywhere within your "flashback" that a certain timeframe was stated? I think not, so where the "lie, I mean, inaccuracy..."

neodemes said...

Enlighten us, solvo.

When will the DVD be free?

Solvo said...

neodemes said...
Enlighten us, solvo.

When will the DVD be free?

Why do you need to be "enlightened"? Quite frankly, it's none of your concern. However, I do know that there are two websites coming out and the url's are ready to go with a "Dorean Group Coming Soon" message currently displayed, so it will happen.

Since I answered your question, how about answering mine and a few others on this blog?

"Enlighten" us on the haircut situation. Have you received a modern day haircut?

neodemes said...

I've already told y'all - I don't have a mullet, never did. Try to keep up.

Tell the girls and gays at your salon to simmer down Mithter Tholvo.

Now, back to the important issues and truth in advertising (something Dorean knows nothing about)

Kurt says they'll be selling the DVDs if he can ever get his act together to get a simple web site online.

You (whoever you are that would know anything anyway) say there will be two web sites and the DVDs will be free.

What are the url's?

Solvo said...

neodemes said...
I've already told y'all - I don't have a mullet, never did. Try to keep up.

Tell the girls and gays at your salon to simmer down Mithter Tholvo.

Now, back to the important issues and truth in advertising (something Dorean knows nothing about)

Kurt says they'll be selling the DVDs if he can ever get his act together to get a simple web site online.

You (whoever you are that would know anything anyway) say there will be two web sites and the DVDs will be free.

What are the url's?

None of yo' business, homey. You'll have to wait for the release just like everyone else.

neodemes said...

In other words, you've got nothing.


neodemes said...

Its amazing what a search for "Dorean Group" turns up these days.,GGLD:2004-41,GGLD:en&start=10&sa=N

Kind of fitting, considering the caliber of some of the posters on this blog.

~~The Swami~~~ said...
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Solvo said...

neodemes said...
In other words, you've got nothing.


Choke on this for a bit, neMo.

Now go play in another sand-box as it's getting really old to continue to prove you wrong on just about everything you think you know.

Tony Tuba said...

Son of A Prophet, you need to stop reading all that garbage! Last fall the Weekly World News predicted an economic crash in the summer of 2005. At the time I thought,"I feel good now because they're never right about anything! Then remember all the news swirling that Clinton was going to declare martial law in the last few months of his term so he could extend his time in the White House. How did that turn out?

I purchased some precious metals in 1983, and this doom and gloom ...the world is ending crap has being going on ever since. Let's learn from the past.

"If you build it - They will come."

"If they predict it - It won't happen!"

Nesara is garbage!

You're living in a world of make believe with flowers and bells and leprechauns with funny little hats! Stop screaming the sky is falling!

neodemes said...

Now, was that so hard?

But, you did say two urls.

Tony Tuba said...

Bank Debenture Programs DO EXIST

You may have be told by some government officials that Bank Debenture Programs DO NOT EXIST.

Well they are lying for their own benefit

Bank Debenture Programs DO EXIST

Also Read the Page about the Brenton Woods Agreement & Money Creation

Below I have copied 4 pages from the official Federal Reserve web site in the US regarding these programs and how they work. The government doesn't want you to know about such things. I have made it a point not to believe anything the government tell me, because most of it is lies made up to suit their own ends.

From the Federal Reserve Web Site

Section 4(c)(8)-(Private-Placement and Riskless-Principal Activities) Section 3230.4
This section discusses and provides a historical reference of previous Board orders that initially authorized, by order, a bank holding company's acting as agent in the private placement of securities and engaging in riskless-principal nonbanking activities. With the Board's incorporation of private-placement and riskless-principal activities into its adoption of changes to Regulation Y, effective April 21, 1997, the majority of the previous private-placement and risklessprincipal commitments are not effective. Only those current requirements listed for privateplacement and riskless-principal activities in
section 225.28(b)(7) of Regulation Y (the laundry list of permissible nonbanking activities)
should be used by the examiner in conducting the supervision and inspection of bank holding companies and their subsidiaries.


A bank holding company (the applicant) applied pursuant to section 4(c)(8) of the Bank Holding CompanyAct and section 225.23(a) of the Board's Regulation Y to act as an agent and adviser to issuers of commercial paper in connection with the placement of commercial paper with institutional purchasers. The commercial-paperplacement activity, as proposed, is to be conducted from a wholly owned commercial finance subsidiary (the company) of the applicant's direct subsidiary.

The Board concluded that the proposed commercial-paper-placement activity was so functionally and operationally similar to the role of a bank that arranges a loan participation or syndication as to be a proper incident thereto and that banking organizations are particularly well suited to perform the commercial-paperplacement function. The Board found that the proposal, as limited by the applicant, was consistent with section 20 of the Glass-Steagall Act, and could reasonably be expected to result in public benefits that would outweigh possible adverse effects. The Board found, further, that the applicant could conduct the proposed activities to the extent and in the manner described in the order. The Board's approval (1987 FRB 138) extended only to the activities conducted within the limitations proposed by the applicant for company and the BHC's subsidiary banks and other subsidiaries. The placement of commercial paper in any manner other than as described within the limitations and conditions of the order would not be within the scope of the Board's approval. The Board also required that no lending affiliate of the company would disclose to the company any nonpublic customer information concerning an evaluation of the financial condition of an issuer whose paper is placed by the company or of any other customer of the company, except as expressly required by securities law or regulation. On May 25, 1988, the Board approved an order (1988 FRB 500) for a bank holding company to engage de novo, through a subsidiary, in acting as an agent and adviser to issuers of commercial paper in connection with the placement of commercial paper with institutional customers, as well as to engage in certain other securities and financial advisory activities. The applicant proposed to place commercial paper in accordance with all the terms and conditions of the above order (1987 FRB 138), except one. The applicant did not propose any quantitative limitations on its placement activity. The Board concluded that the proposed commercial-paper placement did not constitute underwriting or distributing under the Glass-Steagall Act and that the quantitative limitations on the activity were not necessary to ensure compliance with that act. (See section 3230.4.2, in which a subsidiary of a bank holding company was authorized to privately place all types of debt and equity securities.)


A bank holding company (the applicant) applied for the Board's approval to transfer the privateplacement business of its commercial bank subsidiary to its designated nonbanking subsidiary for securities underwriting and dealing. The subsidiary would act as agent in the private placement of all types of securities, including the providing of related advisory services, and buy and sell all types of securities on the order of investors as a riskless principal.

Because the section 20 subsidiary would be affiliated through common ownership with a member bank, it may not be ``principally BHC Supervision Manual December 2000 Page 1 engaged'' in the ``issue, flotation, underwriting, public sale, or distribution'' of securities within the meaning of the former section 20 of the Glass-Steagall Act. In an earlier decision (1989 FRB 751), the Board determined that a subsidiary is not engaged principally in section 20 activities if revenues from underwriting and dealing in securities that banks are not authorized to underwrite and deal in directly (bankineligible securities) do not exceed 10 percent of the subsidiary's gross revenues (25 percent, effective March 6, 1997). The applicant contended that the proposed private-placement and riskless-principal activities are not the kind of securities activities described in section 20 and, thus, should not be subject to the revenue limit on bank-ineligible securities activities.

The private-placement market involves the placement of new issues of securities with a limited number of sophisticated purchasers in a nonpublic offering. In private-placement transactions, a financial intermediary acts solely as agent of the issuer in finding purchasers. The intermediary does not purchase the securities and then try to resell them.

Privately placed securities are not subject to the registration requirements of the Securities Act of 1933. Such securities are only offered to financially sophisticated institutions and individuals, 1 not to the public. The applicant stated that all of the individuals with whom the securities would be placed will qualify as ``accredited investors'' under SEC rules. The Board concluded that the subsidiary's private placement of debt and equity securities within the limits proposed did not involve the underwriting or public sale of securities and that the revenues from the proposed activities should not be subject to the 10 percent revenue limitation (25 percent, effective March 6, 1997) on bank ineligible securities activities.

The Board noted that other limitations on the activity should ensure that securities would not be offered to the public. First, the applicant agreed that the subsidiary would not make any general solicitation or advertisement to the public regarding the placement of particular securities. Second, the minimum denomination of securities to be placed would be $100,000. Third, the applicant agreed that the subsidiary would not privately place securities that are registered under the Securities Act of 1933 and that the subsidiary would be compelled to honor all provisions of that act, particularly those that limit the scope of private placements to nonpublic transactions. Fourth, the subsidiary agreed not to privately place as agent the securities of investment companies which are sponsored or advised by the applicant or its subsidiaries. Fifth, the subsidiary will not purchase or repurchase for its own account the securities being placed or will not inventory unsold portions of such securities. Sixth, the applicant further agreedto consult with its Federal Reserve Bank staff before transferring its private-placement activities from the subsidiary to any other nonbank subsidiary of the applicant to ensure that the transfer did not evade any of the firewall provisions committed to.

The Board has added the activity of acting as agent in the private placement of securities to the laundry list of nonbanking activities (see 12 C.F.R. 225.28(b)(7)(ii)). Regulation Y adopts the definition of private-placement activities that is used by the SEC and the federal securities laws. In taking this action, the Board removed all but one restriction on private placement. The remaining restriction prohibits a bank holding company from purchasing for its own account the securities being placed or holding in inventory unsold portions of issues of these securities. This restriction prevents a bank holding company from classifying its securities underwriting activities as private-placement activities.

``Riskless principal'' is a broker-dealer that, after receiving an order to buy (or sell) a security from a customer, purchases (or sells) the security for its own account to offset a simultaneous sale to (or purchase from) the customer.

1. The subsidiary would not only place securities with institutional customers but with individuals whose net worth (or joint net worth with a spouse) exceeds $1 million. Such placement activities with individuals would not, in the Board's opinion, result in a public offering.

Section 4(c)(8)-(Private-Placement and Riskless-Principal Activities) 3230.4 BHC Supervision Manual December 2000
Page 2

3230.4.4.1 Description of Riskless-Principal Transactions
When acting as a dealer, the securities firm maintains an inventory of securities for its own account and buys and sells securities as principal. Riskless-principal transactions are usually undertaken as an alternative method of executing orders by customers to buy or sell securities on an agency basis. In this situation, when a customer places an order to purchase securities that the broker-dealer does not maintain in its inventory, the firm must purchase the securities from a third party. At this point, the brokerdealer has the option of acting either as the agent for the customer or a riskless principal in making the purchase. If the decision is made to act as a riskless principal, the broker-dealer will purchase the securities from a third-party dealer at the dealer's ``inside price'' (confirming the transaction for its customer) and then, acting as principal, resell them to the customer, adding a

markup over cost. If the broker-dealer does not complete the purchase of the securities ordered by the customer, it is not obligated to provide the securities.

3230.4.4.2 Underwriting and Riskless Principal

In riskless-principal transactions, the subsidiary would execute orders by an investor and would not act on behalf of an issuer of new securities.

The subsidiary would not be involved in making any public offering of securities as agent for the issuer. Thus, these activities would not constitute underwriting for Glass-Steagall purposes.

3230.4.4.3 Summary of Board Action on Acting as Agent in Private Placement and as Riskless Principal in Buying and Selling Securities

The Board concluded that the securities underwriting and dealing of the subsidiary's risklessprincipal activity did not constitute an underwriting

of securities. The riskless-principal activity would not be a public sale or underwriting of securities and would not be viewed as a bank-ineligible securities activity for purposes of the current 25 percent revenue test. As a condition for the approval of the risklessprincipal activity, the Board required the subsidiary to maintain specific records that would clearly identify such transactions so that examiners will be able to trace the resulting revenue.

The riskless-principal activity was found to be closely related to banking. The Board further concluded that the placement activity differed only slightly in scope from those approved previously and that the operational limitations agreed to by the applicant would ensure that the subsidiary would not become involved in the public offering of any securities. The Board approved the application on October 30, 1989 (1989 FRB 829). (See also 1997 FRB 146; 1996 FRB 350, 748; 1995 FRB 49, 880, 1133; 1994 FRB 554, 1014; 1993 FRB 1166; 1992 FRB 294, 335, 552, 868; 1991 FRB 61; and 1990 FRB 26, 79, 545, 567, 568 (footnote 7), 653, 659, 663, 667, 672, 674, 766, 857, 864.)

3230.4.4.4 1996

Changes to the Underwriting Conditions for Riskless-Principal Activities

In connection with a bank holding company proposal considered by the Board on June 10, 1996, the Board reviewed the continued appropriateness of applying the underwriting conditions to the conduct of riskless-principal activities. In that case, the Board determined, based on its experience in monitoring and examining the conduct of riskless-principal activities by bank holding companies, that the underwriting conditions were not necessary to address identifiable adverse effects. Accordingly, the Board permitted the bank holding company to engage in riskless-principal transactions through a nonbank subsidiary without conducting this activity in accordance with the underwriting conditions (See 1996 FRB 748). The Board noted that riskless-principal transactions are essentially equivalent to securities brokerage transactions and, therefore, must be conducted in compliance with federal securities laws. The Board concluded that the definitional limitations

(see section 225.28(b)(7)(ii) of Regulation Y) would be all that is needed to purchase (or sell) securities as a riskless principal. The conditions are designed to ensure that bank holding companies do not avoid the Glass-Steagall Act by

classifying underwriting and dealing activities as riskless-principal activities. In the June 10 order, the bank holding company agreed that, if riskless-principal services were provided in combination with its advisory services, it would provide its customers with the disclosures established by the Board for full-service brokerage activities of bank holding companies.Withrespect Section 4(c)(8)-(Private-Placement and Riskless-Principal Activities) 3230.4

BHC Supervision Manual June 1997
Page 3

to its decision, the Board decided to grant identical relief to other bank holding companies that had been previously approved to conduct riskless-principal nonbanking activities.

3230.4.4.5 Incorporation of Riskless-Principal Transactions into Regulation Y

As part of the Board's February 19, 1997, adoption of the final amendments to Regulation Y, it retained the requirement that riskless-principal transactions be conducted in the secondary market. It further determined to eliminate all but two restrictions with respect to riskless-principal transactions. A bank holding company may thus buy and sell in the secondary market all types of securities on the order of customers as a riskless principal, to the extent of engaging in a transaction in which the company, after receiving an order to buy (or sell) a security from a customer, purchases (or sells) the security for its own account to offset a contemporaneous sale to (or purchase from) the customer. This does not include-

1. selling bank-ineligible securities at the order of a customer that is the issuer of the securities, or selling in any transaction in which the bank holding company has a contractual agreement to place the securities as agent of the issuer; or

2. acting as riskless principal in any transaction involving a bank-ineligible security for which the bank holding company or any of its affiliates acts as an underwriter (during the period of the underwriting or for 30 days thereafter) or dealer. A bank holding company or its affiliates may not enter quotes for specific bankineligible securities in any dealer quotation system in connection with the bank holding company's riskless-principal transactions, except that the company or its affiliate may enter bid or ask quotations, or publish ``offering wanted'' or ``bid wanted'' notices on trading systems other than NASDAQ or an exchange, if the company or its affiliate does not enter price quotations on different sides of the market for a particular security for any two-day period. (See 12 C.F.R.225.28(b)(7)(ii).)

Section 4(c)(8)-(Private-Placement and Riskless-Principal Activities) 3230.4

BHC Supervision Manual June 1997

Page 4

neodemes said...

Way to plagarize, Justagame

A tripod site. It MUST be true. LOL.

Hey, maybe Kurt can get himself a tripod site and get his dog and pony show back on the road.

Tony Tuba said...

The Neodemes Tool Belt contains an impressive array of effective Neo-Lib paraphernalia. Including:

A bottle of Midol.
A box of Tampax Max-Flo
A Bottle of White Out.
A Pulp Fiction style Cue Ball gag.
A Hot line cell phone connected to upstairs (to his mom, who he calls Alfred - what’s for lunch?...Don’t know why he asks everyday…It’s always SpegettiOs).
A “special” Sponge Bob Square Pants nosebleed handkerchief.
A deluxe Propicia / Rogain combo pak.
A nude picture of Adolph Hitler riding a bicycle.
A picture of his right hand – completely shaved.
A picture of his left hand -with lipstick on the forefinger and thumb.
An assortment of herbal tea bags.
Chocolate Snak-Pac.
A “vibrating egg”.
A list of his 10 most effective whines.
An industrial editing eraser.
A “Best of Barbara Streisand” tape.
A travel bottle for his scab collection when he’s away from home.
A squirt gun filled with K-Y Lubricant.
The summer 2005 SHOWTIME “Queer as Folk” schedule
A copy of his real-estate license from correspondence school…which also has his street address on it in case he gets lost.
The instruction, care and maintenance manual from his “My friend Flica inflatable farm pal”.
And a “light Saber”.

So as we can all see now, Neo's powers are not to be underestimated!
He is vigil against any cognitive action attempting to operate without his prior approval and will attempt to shut down any form of free thinking at all costs!

w said...


please email me at

WillToFight said...

P Jelly

I think that about summs it up of NEOD!

It requires no further response!

WillToFight said...

neodemes said...
Way to plagarize, Justagame!


You space cadet!

You programmed virus!

Good Post Justagame! That is not plagarized info. I is just info need. I don't think you said you where a part of the FRB Board of Governors or anything like that?

You did not claim this info for your own? I don't think I saw that on your post.

neodemes said...

Mortgage Elimination does NOT work

Dorean Victims Unite

Google results for Dorean Group
Dorean Group, Gangbang Creampies, Roman Orgy, Mothers Daughters ...
Dorean Group, Gangbang Creampies, Roman Orgy, Mothers Daughters Orgy, Prudential
Americana Group.

How fitting.

neodemes said...

The act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

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~~The Swami~~~ said...

Planet Jelly's Neo Toolbelt story was written by a guy named 4Truth on I don't know who 4truth is exactly, but maybe Planet Jelly is 4Truth. Good stuff for sure.

WillToFight said...


Russian General: Nine Eleven a Globalist Inside Job

Kurt Nimmo | January 23 2006

It’s ironic General Leonid Ivashov, former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces, delivers the truth on globalism and this truth, unavailable in the corporate media of the “free world,” is published in a newspaper in Las Tunas, Cuba. Ivashov tells us so-called international terrorism “is not something independent of world politics but simply an instrument, a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite” and “is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-state political structures as a means to attain their political objectives through people’s intimidation, psychological and social destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries’ policies and the behavior of people.”

Ivashov hits the nail square on the head. “The organizers of [the nine eleven] attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order” because they “were not satisfied with the rhythm of the globalization process or its direction.” As others have explained—most notably Andreas von Bulow, Bundestag member of a parliamentary commission which oversaw the three branches of the German secret service—only “secret services and their current chiefs” (or retired staff with “influence inside the state organizations”) have the “ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. Generally, secret services create, finance and control extremist organizations. Without the support of secret services, these organizations cannot exist—let alone carry out operations of such magnitude inside countries so well protected.” Thus the obvious patsy “Osama bin Laden and ‘Al Qaeda’ cannot be the organizers or the performers of the September 11 attacks” because they “do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders” (or the military and intelligence experience and knowledge required). Instead, “a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation.”

According to General Ivashov, the covert operation nine eleven was effective because it turned “the people’s demands to a struggle of undefined goals against an invisible enemy … destroying basic international norms and changing concepts such as: aggression, state terror, dictatorship or movement of national liberation” and also depriving “peoples of their legitimate right to fight against aggressions and to reject the work of foreign intelligence services.”

Here in America and likely much of Europe, General Ivashov’s message is all but invisible, since the corporate media assiduously ignores any discussion of nine eleven that does not take the fantastical Straussian neocon version of events as gospel truth. As an example of this, run a Google News search on General Ivashov—it will return the sole link to the Cuban newspaper above, peroid.

In order to combat the globalist agenda to reduce the planet to a “free trade” gulag, General Ivashov suggests the creation of “a geo-strategic organization (perhaps inspired in the Cooperation Organization of Shanghai comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) with a set of values different to that of the Atlantists,” that is to say the neolib-neocon faction (in Russia, many political analysts call defenders of “unipolar globalism” Atlantists, or as A. Dugin of the International Eurasian Movement describes it, “strategists of the Western civilization and their conscious supporters in other parts of the planet, aiming at putting the whole world under control and imposing the social, economic and cultural stereotypes typical of the Western civilization to all the rest of mankind…. The atlantists are the builders of the ‘new world order’—the unprecedented world system benefiting an absolute minority of the planet’s population”).

If General Ivashov’s vision of a “geo-strategic organization” comes to pass, it will mean “total war” under the absolutist and demented neocon rubric, since the Straussian neocons, as elucidated in their principle PNAC document, will not tolerate “competitors” and will respond in drastic fashion, more than likely with nuclear weapons (as they appear likely to do under far less provocation in Iran).

The only way to stop this impending nuclear conflagration is to dethrone the Straussian neocons—and soon.

In the meantime, I am wishing for a pony.

Tony Tuba said...

I Hate My Pony!

son of a prophet said...

someone even predicted a one world govt. long before Gen. Ivashov...

HIs name was Yeshua HaMashiach.

ONE world govt.
ONE world economy and worst of ALL
ONE world religion

and WHY Yeshua said that this cannot be defeated; the earth is satans kingdom.

also, in order to defeat it the NWO) would require to kill; and as killing is satans tool, the good has now itself become the evil; the original evil then just transforms itself and manipulates the good to kill for his purposes; the 'good' has now just itself become part of the NWO by accomplishing the goals that the NWO orignally intended to without even realizing it.


fight the NWO all you want, but never become convinced that killing to fight it would defeat it as you would only succeed in killing off the expendables that the NWO would sacrifice to survive.

and now you have exposed yourself as a target to be eliminated. this is how the NWO survives by using expendable fodder to flush out its opponents



as there is no hope for this forsaken planet (until HIS return that is)

son of a prophet said...

ShutzStaffen +SS+ to confiscate bank (un) safe-deposit boxes

January Sunday 22nd 2006 (06h07) :

Homeland Security To Confiscate Bank Safe Deposit Box Contents

by notepad

While all the other points I mentioned in a previous post are fairly well documented and discussed elsewhere on the Internet, the bank information I reported is not. This information is from my own experience and research. I discovered the disturbing news quite by accident - and by virtue of its importance, I decided to post my findings here and on a few other forums.

What did I hear?

A family member from Irvine, CA (who’s a branch manager at Bank of America) told us two weeks ago that her bank held a "workshop" where the last two days were dedicated to discussing their bank’s new security measures. During these last two days, the workshop included members from the Homeland Security Office who instructed them on how to field calls from customers and what they are to tell them in the event of a national disaster. She said they were told how only agents from Homeland Security (during such an event) would be in charge of opening safe deposit boxes and determining what items would be given to bank customers.

At this point they were told that no weapons, cash, gold, or silver will be allowed to leave the bank - only various paperwork will be given to its owners. After discussing the matter with them at length, she and the other employees were then told not to discuss the subject with anyone.

The family member has since given her notice to quit the bank.

I found the news alarming and decided to find out more myself. On a trip to my bank here in Houston, I remarked to a young bank employee (who’s new there), "well I guess you’ve been told all that stuff by the manager and the Homeland Security about what to tell your customers" - and to my amazement, the young woman came right out and said yes she’d been through all that, then whispered to me across the counter, "but we’re not supposed to talk about - I could lose my job."

Why haven’t you heard more about this?

First of all, since maybe only banks’ upper management is privy to the new "rules", the information doesn’t trickle down so easily.

Also keep in mind that employees have been told NOT to say anything about this, that it’s a matter of National Security (with an allusion toward arrest if they do). They face possibly losing their job too. Another reason is that bank employees may not think it’s important, or they believe they’re a unique part of the effort towards curtailing "terrorism" and helping America’s internal defenses.

It is also important to realize that not everyone’s a writer, or Internet savvy - even if the employees moved beyond their banks’ warnings & constraints, most people don’t know how to get their experience published on the Web in the public domain - it’s a mystery they are not familiar with so you never hear their story.

How to get the information yourself:

Visit your bank, ask a few well-worded questions, being careful not to arouse suspicion - if that doesn’t work, talk to friends and other family members - maybe they’ve heard something - or as a last resort, just point blank call the bank manager in private and demand to know what’s all this business with the Homeland Security deciding what I can have from my safe deposit box - tell me now or I’ll close my account today.

I’ll bet if you put forth the effort you’ll get the answers you want.

What should you do with this information?

I’m not trying to "scare" anyone - just providing some news I think is relevant to Americans. Each must find his way through this dark forest - you will do with this information what best suits you and your loved ones - me personally, I see this as another indicator of how the criminals in charge over our lives intend to fleece U.S. citizens completely then dispose of them as only refuse.

Be prepared.

# #

Ed. Curious that Compass Banks are the only banks in the USA where one can buy Iraqi dinar.

Tony Tuba said...

I love my pony.

dgwondering said...

Good Lord, what a waste of Internet bandwidth this has become.

tcob247 said...

I have to agree with you DG

Nothing from Kurt and even less from his followers

But thats kinda what it's been like all along

son of a prophet said...

....yes, quite quiet in here....

...could it be the quite before the s...t...o...r....m.....????

quit ;-)

Clueless Fudd said...

dgwondering said...
Good Lord, what a waste of Internet bandwidth this has become.

3:58 PM

tcob247 said...
I have to agree with you DG

Nothing from Kurt and even less from his followers

But thats kinda what it's been like all along

Then I suggest that either of you don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, fuck-faces's

tcob247 said...

Thanks for making my point you worthless Dorean supporter


What a loser

You are a great source of information.

Just like your leader.
Important questions are asked regarding clients most important asset (their homes)
And all he can talk about is Parrots and his boxing days.

Then you chime in with your childish gutter talk

Don't you get it?
People got screwed royally by this guy with a bunch of false promises

You are pathetic

Tony Tuba said...

I love you DGWondering!

Tony Tuba said...

I love you too TCOB.

wantobefree said...

I heard that kurt was being was being released from jail have any one elese heard this

Justice7777777 said...

I heard everything was going to work out great in "two more weeks".

Free and clear.

Tony Tuba said...

I love you Justice7777777! And your sarcasm!

tcob247 said...

want to be free....

I think what you heard was the parrot

wantobefree said...

Tcbo I dont need your smart ass comments if its not an intelligent one please dont respond thank You

son of a prophet said...

whats up with this?.....

We notice that Ameriquest agreed Monday to pay a reported $295 million (plus $30 million in legal fees to states) in restitution and promises to revise what 49-states had alleged as predatory lending practices. I should remind you that the settlement was accompanied by a disclaimer that "the company acknowledged no wrongdoing."

So what gives? Generosity?

Company founder Roland Arnall has been nominated by George Bush to be US ambassador to the Netherlands, and this big settlement means that Arnall's nomination will can now be rubberstamped as all fine and holy by the boyz in CONgress.


Could this be the start of mortgage cos admitting to abusive lending practices?... naw, no way.

But something is definitley afoot, as this would have never occurred

No doubt about it, Dorean or no Dorean, lending companies are under attack, meaning a change is imminent. HOw this will affect mortgages is unkown at this time, but as they say, 'time will tell.'

Tony Tuba said...

I love you Starfish - I mean Son Of A Prophet.

son of a prophet said...

brother love....


(even those who are for or oppose the mortgage eliminaton scheme)

WillToFight said...

Are Governments Searching For Subversives Through School Exams?

Paul Joseph Watson | January 23 2006

According to the Resistance Blog, A-level students (16-18) in Britain are being asked questions about alternative 9/11 beliefs, conspiracy theories and how much faith they have in government.

Is this part of a vetting process to try and identify the next generation of political dissidents or is it simply an assessment of how deep the alternative truth movement has penetrated the mass collective unconscious?

The exam took place in West Yorkshire England and in the first question, the student was asked to discuss the possibility of governments leading populations into believing facts that are not necessarily true. The source given was an individual who presented an alternative explanation behind 9/11.

Other questions centered around how much the student trusted Tony Blair and George W. Bush.

After the exam ended, the student was taken aside by the head of the exam board and asked if he she had spoken about the content with any other students (who as it turned out had taken a different exam with different questions). Upon denial, the student was told that if she kept it quiet then the exam board would look favorably upon her and give her a good grade.

Late last month we highlighted a case in Washington State where 10th grade students were given 'patriotism tests' that evaluated their faith in the state.

Why are education boards choosing this material? Are they taking orders from a fearful establishment who are keen to measure how far alternative perspectives on modern day events and how they affect the balance between the citizen and the state have perforated societal norms?

In any case, the very fact that such material finds its way into school exams is a good indication of how much reach and influence the alternative media now enjoys in popular culture.

And the programming of our Society is amasing it's army faster than ever before!

emphasis mine.

son of a prophet said...

"Are Governments Searching For Subversives Through School Exams?"


neodemes said...

still waiting for that website, saliva. Its only been a year and a half.