Saturday, April 01, 2006

Message Delivered (3/26/06)

March 21st came and it was a special day of faith. God had given a season of testing that was completed on the 20th and asked Scott and I to juggle or transverse in contracting to buy the time to get to this moment. We were faithful and delivered the message larger than our lives and the corrupt mortgage industry which is in the matter of the heart that would be evil enough to entertain such corruption. The only cure is a submission to Christ. The offer was made 5 times and on the 21st it was made clear that their defiance was no longer tolerated by the heavens. What does that look like in the eyes of man I know not but with the eyes of faith we know God rules and reigns. At present we are led now to begin our course of resisting their bogus jurisdiction. April 4th Keller will not be present so who knows if we will get anything done. They are still hiding information and we will still insist upon its revealing. I’ll end with this message. Our victory is your shortest path to recovery of damages. I cannot prevent them for the entire system is beset by a proposition of presumption, which will evaporate upon a factual finding. When all these judges and bankers discover that the bridges they erected from the middle to the ends will not be completed because they had no rights, title or interest in the land they were aiming at. Then the folly of their endeavor will be fully exposed.

58 comments:

jbenda said...

Please...would everyone use "word" editor to write your responses and use the spelling and grammar function? Then cut and paste it here on this blog. You all write like your 6 years old and it destroys all credibility.

dgwondering said...

Yep. Like all the other debt elimination scams, the courts will just roll over and play dead.

dgwondering said...

Hey jbenda the word is "you're."

habakkuk said...

SOP said...

habbakuk,

are you jewish?

just curious....

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A natural Jew? No. I do have a love for the Jewish people.
But i am one inwardly(Romans 2:29). I found out that.... "if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galations 3:29) In other words if you are HIS then "the Jew is You".

Another scripture in the OT i like:

Isaiah 44:5 (Living Translation)
Some will proudly claim, `I belong to the LORD.' Others will say, `I am a descendant of Jacob.' Some will write the LORD's name on their hands and will take the honored name of Israel as their own.
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The name HABAKKUK means: TO EMBRACE

I embrace the lord and the Jewish roots of my faith.
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Ever hear of Sid Roth? He's a Jewish Believer and he has guests on his radio show frequently that talk about this topic. Check it out: www.sidroth.org

whyudothat said...

son of a prophet said...
as you well know, i have not posted that article.....

you are right, my bad, forgive me, it was sherri h.

so sherri what has come to pass from clement's words?

whyudothat said...

kurt said...it was made clear that their defiance was no longer tolerated by the heavens. Our victory is your shortest path to recovery of damages.

tell that one to Irwin Schiff, he will probably die in a jail cell, for exposing the truth and had all the evidence and witness he could ever need in the court. with that level of greed and corruption, it is plain to see that truth and what is right didn't even stand up with him. makes you wonder

so you are telling me that fred lied when he tried to get everyone to believe back in early 2005 till now that your outcome in the courts had nothing to do with the administrative judgements in any way? (freds own words) now you want to say that the process outcome is dependent upon corruption and greed to do whats right? the words and mindset are changing like the wind blows and the waves, tossed to and fro.

nevertheless, may kurt and scotts outcome not be the same as irwin's

Elmer Fudd said...
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Elmer Fudd said...

Based upon the record made during the above-captioned case, including the hearing of March 21, 2006, and particularly statements made by the defendants Dale Scott Heineman and Kurt F. Johnson, the Court will hold a hearing to determine the mental competency.

The Court finds that defendants Heineman and Johnson, who have refused counsel thus far, have made multiple statements that give reason to believe they may suffer from a mental disease or other defect that renders them mentally incompetent to the extent that they are unable to understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings against them, to conduct properly their own defense or to assist potential counsel in their defense – or at least the record might suggest incompetence to an appellate Court. See 18 U.S.C. 4241(a). Among these statements by defendants Heineman and Johnson are those suggesting they believed that they were in communication with Jesus and that he had told them he was burning down three judges’ homes.

To assist the Court, psychiatric examinations of defendants Heineman and Johnson shall be performed, with reports of the examinations filed pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 4247(b) and (c). See 18 U.S.C. 4241(b) and Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 12.2(c)(1)(A). The Goernment is ORDERED TO SUBMIT, BY NOON, APRIL 4, 2006, the names of up to four qualified examiners from among whom the Court may designate those who will examine defendants Heineman and Johnson. In choosing from among qualified examiners, the government shall give due consideration to the convenience of the defendants and their detention facility, and the desire of the Court for a prompt resolution of the competency issue.

After the Court designates the examiners, a schedule will be set forth for submission of the reports and a competency hearing. In issuing this order, the Court does not imply or find at this stage that the defendants Heineman and Johnson are mentally incompetent.




LOL What Jokers...Stop hiding behind your bush, and come forward with your truth like you say you will..Meanwhile you two idiots want to save the poor americans who are being taking advantage of by the banking system from all their money problems, but your actually costing them alot in tax money with all the ducking and weaving you are doing in court.

neodemes said...

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.

But scammers are masters of convolution.

They could have filed suit challenging the banks at any time, without dragging hundreds of victi..., er, clients into a mess.

But thay wouldn't have filled a Latvian bank account that way, would they?

Don't be so brash as to believe God is part of your plan.

Turn aside from self-righteousness

He does not answer when men cry out because of the arrogance of the wicked. Indeed, God does not listen to their empty plea; the Almighty pays no attention to it.

Job 35:12,13 NIV

__________________

Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit?
There is more hope of a fool than of him.

Proverbs 26:12 KJV

__________________

For all of us have become like one who is unclean,
And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment;

And all of us wither like a leaf,
And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

There is no one who calls on Your name,
Who arouses himself to take hold of You;

For You have hidden Your face from us
And have delivered us into the power of our iniquities.

Isaiah 64:6,7 NASB

__________________

Story of the Pharisee and Tax Collector

Then Jesus told this story to some who had great self-confidence and scorned everyone else:

"Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: 'I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don't sin, I don't commit adultery, I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.'

"But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, 'O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.'

I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For the proud will be humbled, but the humble will be honored."

Luke 18:9-14 NLT

blind101 said...

Can anyone please tell me a way to get a copy of my Trust? Dr. Fred is not any help, he refuses to help me and I don't know where else to turn. Without a copy of my Trust filed at my local Courthouse, my property will always have a messed up title. I paid $5,700 for this program and have not recieved anything other than sleepless nights. If I can't get a copy of "my" Trust, then I will just have to figure out the best way to get the property back into my name. Does anyone know if I can mail a Quick Claim Deed to the Trustee's and have them sign my property back over to me? Is this allowed by the Trust? It's kinda hard to know what to do when you are in the dark with no one to help you. I'm not going to send anymore money to anyone, I just want to get MY property back in my name, since getting a copy of my Trust is not looking like something that is going to happen.
All I'm asking for is for someone to help me! Please!

neodemes said...

blind101,

If it is filed at your courthouse, can't you go get a copy?

son of a prophet said...

hab said....



"A natural Jew? No. I do have a love for the Jewish people.
But i am one inwardly(Romans 2:29). I found out that.... "if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's (SPIRITUAL) seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galations 3:29) In other words if you are HIS then "the Jew is You"."
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Hab, Christians are not 'natural jews,' but 'spiritual ones'. Christians are the 'spirtiual seed' of Abraham, and jews are the physical seed of Abraham.


Christians must love all ppl, so jews are included too, but this love is not limited to jews. muslims would be included too and buddhists and all other ppl.


i was once in a presbyterian church that taught that all the propecies had been fullfilled and Yeshua was all done with the jews. after taht and many other disagreements, i left that church, found another and then left that one (a supposed bible 'fundamentalist' church) and never went back to any as they are all corrupted and do not teach the bible correctly.

i then realized that the HS is the only true teacher; no man shoudl have any authority over someone but the HS. and any church that is incorporated, same deal as the DG, it is corrupted. Yeshua would not have had anything to do with an 'incorproated' church. anychurch inc., is an agent of the state. preaching is not subject to licensing.

habakkuk said...

SOP said....

Hab, Christians are not 'natural jews,' but 'spiritual ones'. Christians are the 'spirtiual seed' of Abraham, and jews are the physical seed of Abraham.

RIGHT....SO WHAT DID I SAY THAT CONFLICTS WITH THAT?

SOP said....

Christians must love all ppl, so jews are included too, but this love is not limited to jews. muslims would be included too and buddhists and all other ppl.

ONCE AGAIN, I AGREE. WHAT DID I SAY THAT IMPLIES I DONT LOVE ALL PEOPLE? IN MY FAMILY I HAVE BLACKS, ASIANS, ITALIANS, NATIVE AMERICANS, LEBANESE, HISPANICS. OUR LAST HOLIDAY DINNER LOOKED LIKE A UN CONFERENCE.

son of a prophet said...

hab said....


"ONCE AGAIN, I AGREE. WHAT DID I SAY THAT IMPLIES I DONT LOVE ALL PEOPLE?"
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but, do ya LUV ME hab???

i gots ta know?

wantobefree said...

BLIND-101 Hey buddy im in the same boat I lost 4300 hundred what im tryin to do is fire them as your trustees and set up your own trustI gave mine to my lawyer and having him deal with it at this point i know nothing if you post me once inawhile i can let you know.Haft the people on here hasnt tryed this system thats why your not gettin any info most are on here cause they are bored and have no life but stare at a computer.You will notice who they are when they type in a bunch of bullshit that has nothing to do with the dorean process YEA YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

blind101 said...

neo, it was never filed at my local courthouse and I was never mailed a copy of it. I've never seen the document, so I don't have any idea as to what I can or can't do according to the Trust. Maybe someone can send me a copy of their Trust, with their names removed of course, and then I can find out what I can do to settle my problem. If I don't have a copy of my Trust, why am I even in this program. According to Dr. Fred, you have to have a copy of your Trust inorder to recieve any funds from the soon to be settlement. Well since I can't seem to get a copy, then I just need to remove this Trust and chaulk the $5,700 loss up to a lesson well learned. And that lesson is that most people don't truly care about helping other people, it's all about the Benjamin's.
Thanks Wanta, I will try to keep posting so you can tell me what your lawyer had to say, and thanks for YOUR help!

neodemes said...

blind101,

Are their ANY Dorean documents regarding the "blind101" Family Trust filed at your courthouse?

Could be you got nothing for your $ at all? (Which at this point would be a good thing)

habakkuk said...

Blind101,

Unless u (or the previous Dorean Group Staff) filed the original quit claim deed at the county to put the property in the Trust its still in your name. Unfortunately you are out $5700...i'm sorry to say.

Do you have documentation that you paid the DG (or broker) $$$ for their services? That will serve as proof you were a client when settlement time comes.

neodemes said...

Settlement time? Do you seriously believe there will be a settlement?

Get real.

Dorean Victims Unite

oksurewhynot said...

Many theologeans have tried to describe hell. One put it this way...hell is being denied the presence of God by one's own doing. And in following this thought, Scott and Kurt have created their own hell on earth. They are denied the presence of loved ones by their own doing.
Banks, fraud, and mortgages are worldly items. What cause is worth separating oneself from what really matters?
none

neodemes said...

1Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

habakkuk said...

Neo,
Lets not have the settlement/no-settlement debate.....Lets just wait and see what happens...ok.
I'm just trying to help somebody out....just like u...is that ok?

oksurewhynot said...

Message Delivered. Yeeaaaa...

Read the situation. Doubt that you are in a position to be delivering any message to anyone.

There's some "truth" for you.

blind101 said...

I did file the Quit Claim deed at my local Courthouse. That's the only doc filed on my property. I've never seen a copy of any Trust. Does anyone even know if the Trust used will allow for the Trustee's to Quit Claim Deed the property back to me? Or is there a easier way to do this? I've come to the conclusion that I've never get a copy of my Trust so getting the property back in my name is my only hope!

oksurewhynot said...

Many theologeans have tried to describe hell. One put it this way...hell is being denied the presence of God by one's own doing. And in following this thought, Scott and Kurt have created their own hell on earth. They are denied the presence of loved ones by their own doing.
Banks, fraud, and mortgages are worldly items. What cause is worth separating oneself from what really matters?
none

habakkuk said...

NEO QUOTES...

1Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

U KNOW WHAT NEO, JUST LIKE U I AM SO CONFIDENT IN THE WORD OF G-D THAT I AM WILLING TO TRUST THAT G-D WILL IN THE END JUSTIFY THE INNOCENT. BECAUSE NO ONE WILL ESCAPE HIS JUDGEMENT. EVERYTHING DONE IN DARKNESS WILL BE BROUGHT OUT IN THE LIGHT. SO...IF U THINK SCOTT AND KURT ARE SCAMMERS, THEN SO BE IT, LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

YOU AND I ARE HUMAN AND WE ARE CAPABLE OF MAKING FALSE JUDGEMENTS....BUT GOD KNOWS THE HEART OF MAN AND HE DONT MAKE MISTAKES.

Justice7777777 said...

Blind 101

Try to get your broker (involved in the scam) to work for you. At this point in the scam doreanites aren't much help as the writing is on the wall. Do not threaten your broker--his time will come later.

Even without your trust (sample copies can be found in the court records) a lawyer can remove the crap heads from your title. There are a couple options to complete this. You are going to have to get legal help though. On average it hast cost victims 400 to 2000 to remove the scammers.

You can easily find a lawyer who has experience in both mortgages and trusts. It will not be a problem finding a lawer who is familiar with mortgage elimination fraud. Unfortunately it has been a profitable scam.

The only settlement that has possiblities is when all scammers are prosecuted. Plenty of dibs then.

Getting to the Latvia money will be more tricky but will get done.

neodemes said...

"is that ok?"

Sure thing.

neodemes said...

From the mouth of a title attorney:

"For the benefit of all, earlier this week, I reviewed and accepted a document prepared by lawyers of the owner of property that was put into a Dorean trust, where the owner recorded a declaration removing Johnson and Heineman as trustee, substituting a new trustee. That new trustee then could proceed to deed the property out of trust (or could have signed the new refinance mortgage directly as trustee). I thought it was an innovative way to get around getting a deed from the incarcerated duo out of the trust."

blind101 said...

neo, that sounds good, except when I asked a lawyer about that method of changing Trustee's then having the new Trustee's transfer ownership back to me, he said that he really needed to see a copy of the Trust to see if the Trust has a provision allowing this to take place. There is my problem in a nutshell, I can't get a copy of the Trust to see what it will allow an attorney to do or not to do.

whyudothat said...

blind101 said...
neo, that sounds good, except when I asked a lawyer about that method of changing Trustee's then having the new Trustee's transfer ownership back to me, he said that he really needed to see a copy of the Trust to see if the Trust has a provision allowing this to take place.

Any trustee can be replaced for lack of performance, that shouldnt be hard for any attorney to accept considering the whereabouts of the current trustees listed in your trust. You dont need an attorney to do that either, you can do that yourself and save the $

neodemes said...

blind101,

Here is how one client handled firing the trustees:

http://www.rei-resource.com/dorean/posey.pdf

hth

Justice7777777 said...
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Justice7777777 said...

Finally Kurt your blog has done some good.

#1 Exposed doreanites as wackos and cons

#2 Gave SOP a friend (or at least a wacko audience to listen)

#3 Most importantly, given a forum to those who need help getting out of this scam

Good job Kurt.

Hope you pass your psycho test.

Tony Tuba said...

son of a prophet said...


but, do ya LUV ME hab???

i gots ta know?

2:58 PM



I love you Son of A Prophet! A LOT!!!!!

whyudothat said...

neodemes said...
blind101,

Here is how one client handled firing the trustees:

http://www.rei-resource.com/dorean/posey.pdf


yes good example, blind101, that's all you need to do, and keep a copy of it. DONT pay a lawyer a lot of $ to write up that one piece of paper. IT is a very simple thing. You declare a new trustee for the trust and keep a record of it as proof. done deal.

whyudothat said...

further, blind101, if your trust is public, notarize and record that document in the county.

if your trust is private, just keep your sign copy with the trust.

imbigo said...

Hay blind dude...

If you have a "MY" trust you are truly blind, and dont have a "clue" about "the" trust.

blind101 said...

neo, I went to the link you posted and I understand the method that they used, however I don't have my Trust number to list on the document and when I told my attorney about this method, he said it would work if my Trust had a provision providing for it. The example had that provision listed, I have no way of knowing is my Trust is worded the same way and my attorney said that without a copy of my Trust, anything we do would be just a maybe, no guarantee. And another thing, imbigo, I'm not here for your stupid riddles or cute remarks, I'm here for help, if you can't help, then please don't address me.
Thanks to all of those who are trying to help!

son of a prophet said...

peace to you, bro luv....



i have a ? for those of you already in the DG trust...


haveign come this far, why would anyone want to risk that the DG is successufl and lose out on the benfits???

doesnt make any sense to me?

if they lose, so what, accordign t what you already beleive, you have lost already anyway, so why not just wait it out and see what happens??

in either case, waiting it out seem like a 'no-brainer' to me.

wht the wodrst that could happen?

you lose you house?

no. because you wont lose you house because of the turst. if you just keep making paymetns that wont happen. if you dont make paymetns, then why would you remove it form the trust when the trust give you at least some protecton from the greedy bankers.

blind101 said...

son of a prophet, I see your point, however, I've lost faith in the whole process by the lack of support in trying to get a copy of my Trust that I had already paid for. I have not stopping payments on my house, nor will I, it just that I don't believe anything good is going to come out of this, and my house is in a Trust and that will not allow me to do anything with the property ie sell, home equity line of credit, etc. The property being in the Trust messes up my title and having NO copy of the Trust just makes matters worst, so I just need to get out and away from the whole ordeal. Thanks.

son of a prophet said...

"....lack of support in trying to get a copy of my Trust that I had already paid for."
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i dont understand, why you say you cannot get a copy of your trust.

just send the DG $100 and you will get a copy.

if you signed up for the program, you are ALREADY IN the DG trust, as far as benfits and settlements go, if/when that day comes. what you are saying is that you dont have a physical copy of the turst which will have no bearing on whter or not you will get a settlement. but you will need a copy of it to set up a paymetn mode. so you can pay your $100 then if you like i guess.

Solvo said...
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Solvo said...

Blind,

Do what is listed below and you will no longer have Scott and Kurt as trustees and a trustee of your choice who can now quit claim the property back to you.

NOTICE!
To all Trustor(s) and Beneficiaries

The following attachment is another suggested method that you may use in regards to your Family Estate Trust. This method is a less complex in that there are no forms to fill out, no notary required, and no registering required.
Notice and Minute prepared for…

The XXXXXX Family Estate Trust
Month_________ Day_______ Year___:

I hereby as Grantor/Beneficiary of the XXXXXX Family Estate Trust relieve the current trustees D. Scott Heineman and Kurt F. Johnson of any and all fiduciary rights, duties, or responsibilities effective on the aforementioned date.
This grant is being made of my own free will, absent any duress. The trustees are both being relieved for cause as put forth in the indentures of the aforementioned XXXXXX Family Estate Trust Article VII section 7:26. It is my intent to replace the former trustees with __________________________.
Effective on the following date ___________________.

Signed XXXXXX Grantor/Beneficiary date

Mail a copy to Scott and Kurt and they are no longer your trustees.

KURT’S AND SCOTT”S ADDRESSES

Kurt F Johnson
13177081
Dublin FDC
5675 8th St. Camp Parks
Dublin, CA 94568

Dale Scott Heineman
12152081
Dublin FDC
5675 8th St. Camp Parks
Dublin, CA 94568

Once you mail this to Scott and Kurt, have the new trustee file a deed like such giving you the property back.

RECORDING REQUESTED BY

New Trustee goes here
GRANTORS

___________________________________________

WHEN RECORDED MAIL THIS DEED TO:

XXXXX FAMILY TRUST
c/o 123 Lane
City, State, ZIP

QUITCLAIM DEED

The undersigned grantor(s) declare(s):
Documentary transfer tax is $ NA
( ) computed on full value of property conveyed, or
( ) computed on full value less value of liens and encumbrances remaining at time of sale.
( ) Unincorporated area: ( ) City of
(X) Not pursuant to sale

NEW TRUSTEE, TRUSTEE of the XXXXXX FAMILY TRUST, the undersigned grantors, for a valuable consideration, receipt of which is hereby acknowledged, do now hereby remise, release, and forever quitclaim, to YOUR NAME, the following real property in the City of XXXXXXX, County of XXXXXXX, State of XXXXXXXX;



Executed on the ________ day, of the ______________ month, in the year of 2005, at ___________________
(city of execution)

________________________________
XXXXXXXXXXXX, TRUSTEE

STATE OF )
) ss.
COUNTY OF )

On ________, 2006, before me, _________________ a Notary Public of XXXXXX County STATE, personally appeared, ___________________, personally known to me or proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within instrument and acknowledged to me the Behalf of which the person acted, executed the instrument.

WITNESS my hand and notarial seal, this ____ day of ____________, 2006

My commission expires: ________________

________________________________ SEAL
Notary Public

fixerone said...

blind101 and SOP:

I have also been emailing Dr. Fred with questions. He sent me an email saying that if I want a copy of my Trust, then send him and money order for $100 with the "Pay To" blank. He also had an attachment that is an application to start a Trust with him. At the bottom it says, "Trust Cost $3,000". I have asked Dr. Fred to reply with a more specific explanation, so that I can execute this properly...I get no response.

From the moment Julien received my $5,700 they ignored me.

My Courthouse only has the Grant Deed which shows Scott and Kurt as Trustees on a Trust for my home, but no Trust is filed as it is not a public document.

I should have received a copy of my Trust "free" from Dorean after filing, but now it will cost to get a copy in my hand.

I was trying to refinance my home to get some equity out of it to get a car running and pay some hospital bills. Now I cannot move forward, since the finance company needs a copy of the Trust.

I'm guessing that refinancing would mess up any payoff that may come from a Dorean win, so that's on hold.

I'm trying to hold on till the Dorean day of delivery but, it keeps getting moved out. I've been out of work twice since filing and happily have a new job, but catching up financily is tough.

A little help from Dr. Fred wouldn't hurt or maybe Kurt could make a comment or two.

son of a prophet said...

from what i understand, the $3k is and 'end fee' that will only be paid if/when you get a settlement form the DG.

if a settlement is not rec'd, then you would not be liable for the fee.

Elmer Fudd said...

A little help from Dr. Fred wouldn't hurt or maybe Kurt could make a comment or two.


Dr Fred is Scum...And he's not long for the free world soon either. Fucking doctor give me a break.

habakkuk said...

elmer fudd said....

Dr Fred is Scum...And he's not long for the free world soon either. Fucking doctor give me a break.

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Its amazing how people on here can make judgements about people they've never met in their lives. Based on this guys comments u would think Dr. Fred shot his dog or burned down his house or something.

In reality, Dr. Fred is just a guy who VOLUNTEERED to help out in this whole process since his son is in jail. If your son was locked up you'd do the same. He never asked for this responsibility. AND he is only one man and can't possibly solve the problems of thousands of people by snapping his fingers....Half of those people hate his son's gutts...And now they find pleasure in verbally kicking an old guy around who is really trying to help the best he can. If i had a 100+ people per day calling my cell phone i'd be pretty irritable too.
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And dont even tell me i'm being insensitive because i almost lost my house in this whole thing too (but for the grace of G-d). Dont even go there as if i cant relate.

neodemes said...

Please don't believe there is nothing in this for Fred.

"I shall continue to be available to service for and to the trust on a 24/7 basis and I have to this date charged nothing for these services. However, Universal Trust Services Ltd. is no longer under indictment and its staff will be available after the funds are ready for distribution, and those service will be billed at $150.00 per hour, and on a “As time permits” availability."

neodemes said...

One more thing - how does $100.00 per copy of the trust amount to charging "nothing for these services"?

whyudothat said...

habakkuk said...
Its amazing how people on here can make judgements about people they've never met in their lives.

fred has made his own judgment by his own actions, no one needs to meet him to realize that.

son of a prophet said...

ya know, i dont know any of the principal of the DG, but lets give these guys a break.

no matter what happens, i believe that their intentions were/are good.

after all, out govt. is about to implement their end of the bargain of the NWO; ie., ONE WORLD GOVT., **NO BORDERS**

those aliens form mayheeco are NEVER GOING BACK!

do you think that europe went to the 'euro' currency which is good all over europe and they also have no borders is coincedance???

now its the USAs turn to go no borders.

thanks to your govt., your kids will be going to college and will be LUCKY if they can get a mcdonalds job. LUCKY IF THEY CAN GET ONE. and it will pay about $5/hour.

you ppl have a lot of b**ls to critcize what the DG at least attempting to do.

ppl sit on their fat lazy *ss and complain.

how come you not complaining what you govt. has STOLEN your kids/grandkids FUTURE???

why you not say anything about that, neodemonic, huh???

pretty soon, no one will have a job, so you keep paying you mtg until then. side with the banksters, go ahead.

in case you beeen in space for a few years, this country is COOKED my friend.


(yes, i like to use the word you instead of your)

neodemes said...

neodemonic?

Now, is that nice?

There are plenty of venues out there to talk about the USA govt.

This one happens to be about the Dorean Group mortgage elimination process and the folks that got hosed by it, and that is what I come here to add my 2 cents about.

As far as siding with banks/bankers...never have. I don't doubt there are issues and areas where change is needed.

What I do doubt is that TDG is about anything other than sticking it to their clients.

Claim after claim and promise after promise has amounted to crappola.

jbenda said...

DGWONDERING YOU'RE MEANS "YOU ARE"

jbenda said...

Hey dgwondering needs a grammer class. "Your're" means "you are" and that is not what I was saying.

jbenda said...

blind101...Kurt and Scott can quitclaim your property back to you. They did it for me last year so that I could refinance my house, but that was before they were in jail. You can send them a letter requesting they quitclaim it back to you.

jbenda said...

DGWONDERING YOU'RE MEANS "YOU ARE"

Elmer Fudd said...

habakkuk said...
elmer fudd said....

Dr Fred is Scum...And he's not long for the free world soon either. Fucking doctor give me a break.

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Its amazing how people on here can make judgements about people they've never met in their lives. Based on this guys comments u would think Dr. Fred shot his dog or burned down his house or something.

In reality, Dr. Fred is just a guy who VOLUNTEERED to help out in this whole process since his son is in jail. If your son was locked up you'd do the same. He never asked for this responsibility. AND he is only one man and can't possibly solve the problems of thousands of people by snapping his fingers....Half of those people hate his son's gutts...And now they find pleasure in verbally kicking an old guy around who is really trying to help the best he can. If i had a 100+ people per day calling my cell phone i'd be pretty irritable too.
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And dont even tell me i'm being insensitive because i almost lost my house in this whole thing too (but for the grace of G-d). Dont even go there as if i cant relate.




What's funny is how dumb you are to believe a crook like that....You don't have to relate do anything because i know your brainwashed.. But hey god loves you no matter what right.