Wednesday, February 07, 2007

Brother Scott

It has almost been 2 years of suffering for righteousness sake. I remember the man at the beginning of this trial and know that he has died. I read your kind words and I thought I would share from my perspective. You were always a great partner and friend. Your pedantic work ethic defining who you are. What I see added to this gift without diminishing from it is a pause, a contemplative check for faith’s opportunity. I now see you as a peer no longer are you a witness or a support but a champion in your own right. I see you willing to die too for the cause of Christ, to make your boast in the God of renown. This is a man I would follow in to battle. Know that no matter what giants Christ brings before you as He strengthens you that you have a friend and brother that will pick up the sword of the word and wield it until your enemies have fallen. As Paul took delight in the gifts of God in Timothy I can say I am proud of you. It is my sincerest hope that your children who profess a love for Christ will put away their wandering eyes and see the great man of God given them as a father. Also that evilex will discover that the man she ridiculed as a shameful, unrighteous scoundrel was the closest she ever got to the man of God she hoped for. Though your prayer to die was answered from UTAH I am amazed at the resurrection life that has transformed you. What greater evidence do we need of the power of God to deliver us. I gut it out with you until the end and look to the hope of our faith to be Himself. You have reached the nobility of the hall of faith and who can count the numbers blessed and inspired by your testimony of our glorious Lord? The trumpet calls us to war and I’m confident of my peers.


light1rae said...

What a honor to be associated with you two! As always STAY THE COURSE!
We love you both more than you know.


tcob247 said...

thank you for that drink of koolaide

May I have another?

near the end said...

Hey Neo you did not respond to Mogel about your Bank problems my little BALD headed friend Why not?

KYHOOYA said...

tcob247 said...
thank you for that drink of koolaide

May I have another?

1:17 PM


Do you ever have anything of worth to say?
I mean, how many times can one person say the samething about someone or something when all your really have said is nothing.

Get a life or come up with a different aprouch already.

Now this would be where you find some kinda spelling error, Right?

SAVE IT! it's all so old or maybe you can post by one of your other names to give yourself some kinda support. Now that's always good for a laugh.

Why not try and see if that pea brain of yours could take the time you spend here and use it to go learn something instead of hoping someone else will do it for you and then maybe the next time you get involved in some program you might have the info you need to make a chose for your self and won't have to sit around all day on a Blog site and Bitch about it.

You know you can never learn anything by looking over someone else shoulder, you have to do the work for yourself to truly understand it.

KYHOOYA said...

near the end said...
Hey Neo you did not respond to Mogel about your Bank problems my little BALD headed friend Why not?

1:24 PM


Oh but it's all true more to why he is not responding. BK is all public record.
Hey I bet you could use Neo's own web page and the county record find sec. he has to locate his Bk.

Mogel look at your e-mail if you would. Thank's


Yetter said...

Judge bean bag, hang this over your saloon."Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants". William Penn

tcob247 said...


Thank you for your guidence wise master

son of a prophet said...

The Master said...


very powerful, yet only perhaps 1 in a 1,000,000 truly undestand this verse.

if you see the K of G and His Righteousness, then all else will be added....

you bills get paid...

you mortage gets paid....

you health gets better....

you get wisdom.....

you live long....


get the idea??

all things are added.

not 1 thing.

not a some things..

not many things....



are added to you.

say this to youself until you get it.

son of a prophet said...

problem is, no one really seeks the k of g and his righteousuness, if they do, they do it 2nd, but the bible say ***FIRST***

it doesnt say..."SEEK YE SECOND THE....."


but god doesnt want to be a backup. god wants to be a starter on the team. if you make him sit the bench like a 2nd stringer, then......its not good fo you team.

son of a prophet said...

you wind up like the chicano bears....29-17 loss.

son of a prophet said...

there was a nice song when i used to go to church, it went like this:






King Leonidas said...

tcob247 said...

thank you for that drink of koolaide

The Kooaid drinkers are those who believe that the government and the court system are actually honest.

Deception, deceit and trickery are unfortunately the modus operandi of our political system.

neodemes said...

If you recall, mouths, I'm the one who brought up the BK in the first place.

So what? I didn't get a free house out of it, I simply stopped a greedy bastard from stealing my business.

Y'all understand greedy bastards, I know you do, 'cause that is what drives you, not this self-righteous crap about saving the world from "banksters".

Greed blinded what little sense you might have had and you fell for a scam.

Live with it.

whyudothat said...

one for swami
with all that Swami gives, I will give one back..

This was overheard during a game of the classic board game "Clue":

Was it the professor, in the study, with the knife?

No, I'm sorry it was not.

It was the astronaut, in the parking garage, with the duct tape, the wig, the trenchcoat, the bb gun, the cash, the plastic bags, the ties, the rope, the pepper spray, the glasses, and the diapers!

Anonymous said...

Nemo said: "So what? I didn't get a free house out of it, I simply stopped a greedy bastard from stealing my business."
So I take it you couldn't trust the honest court system to give you justice against this greedy bastard?

With all the bills you discharged, I'm sure you could have paid for a "free & clear" house for cash if you chose to.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I would like to clarify. As many times as I have spoke of my evil, crazy, and goofy ex wife......The nutty astronaut woman NOT my ex wife. Yeah............I was surprised it wasn't too.

Anonymous said...

Redwood Trust's leader got convicted for fraud & got a very long sentence. There were many thousands of clients there. Mike Barnett with Barnett & Associates, and his other company he formed, fled to the Bahamas after the MN Attorney General accused him of misreprensentation & after he couldn't see to produce anything for clients. Now Mortgage Alternatives finally admits their demise.

With the exception of maybe the Freedom Club, it now appears the Dorean Group are among the last men standing that have been battling against the Credit System to discharge mortgages. There's a distinct difference between quitters & winners, and those that have hope and those that just quit:

31 January 2007

To all PA, MA and GEFC clients:

It has been almost a year since my last official update letter to you. I had not communicated to you simply because I was waiting for something positive to report and there has been nothing. I can not, in good conscience, continue to keep you waiting.

I am announcing that MA and GEFC are now officially out of business. We have come to an end.

I am truly saddened that at this point, “in the natural,” I can see no way to cure this situation. My staff and I have done all that we know to do in an attempt to replace, to some usable degree, the mortgage payoff funds that were reportedly to come to us and subsequently “disappeared” some two years ago. The details of the “disappearance of the funds and the individual involved” were reported in previous update letters dated after November 2005.

I want to especially thank Dr. Wolf who stepped up to help us after the disappearance of those funds. With over 14 years of experience in this field, she worked very hard to create a reliable funding source using assets she either owned or controlled. She also attempted to use several other types of assets that were offered for our use by outside sources to no avail. Over the last several years, the markets were apparently looking for cash or cash equivalents rather than “hard assets” to fund. Hard assets have been “out of favor” in those specific markets and there is no funding source currently available to us. Again, my thanks to her for all her efforts on our behalf. She is truly appreciated.

I realize this is a huge disappointment to all of us. You have given up money and not seen a return. I am truly sorry for that. Others counted on us (me) and have lost their homes. I am truly sorry for that as well. It was most certainly not my intention to harm anyone in any way. I truly believed that we could accomplish our goals and I am very sorry that did not prove to be the case.

I realize that there are many that will accept the loss of their application fee knowing that they came into this venture fully informed, they knew the risks, they knew there were no guarantees and that their application fees were non-refundable. Others will believe that I was in cahoots with the thief and that I am now living “high on the hog” on some beach somewhere. They are in error but there is probably no way to convince them otherwise so they may believe whatever they want. Those of you that know me personally know that none of that is true.

I can only apologize for what has happened. No matter the cause or who may have been at fault, I was responsible. I can only say that I am truly sorry it has come to this and I do sincerely wish you and yours the best in the future.

Gran Teasley


Mortgage Alternatives


Unknown said...

mogel said...
Now Mortgage Alternatives finally admits their demise.

Weren't you pushing this too, moogie?

Anonymous said...

Nemo said: "So what? I didn't get a free house out of it,"

In other words, you finally admit & recognize the legal discharge of a clients mortgage in the Dorean Process & that the clients actually were benefitted? If not, your statement, makes no sense.

Don't you think it's greedy to beat someone out of a legitimate debt through a bankruptcy? Or were you trying to say on your bankruptcy, there was only one debt you listed and only one debt you discharged? Is that what we are suppose to believe?

Or maybe you have one standard for yourself, and another standard for other people?

son of a prophet said...

anyone ever heard of

they claim to do ME too and credit card elim.

Anonymous said...

Justice: Let me try and make something clear to you. I make mistakes & I do have regrets, however, the thing that attracted me to Peoples Advantage, which was really the predecessor to Mortgage Alternatives was a concept and service they never produced. You can't always know if someone is going to perform according to the contract you sign. In some way NEVER DISCLOSED to PA clients, Mortgage Alternatives bought out the contracts or received an assignment of People's Advantage clients and contracts. I didn't join Mortgage Alternatives, they joined me. I had no say so in the negotiations. I paid no fee to Mortagage Alternatives. What Peoples Advantage marketed was this:

"The powers delegated to my attorney-in-fact shall include, but not be limited to the following:

1. To research, investigate, discuss, obtain and demand information and documents of all kinds whatsoever, from all sources whatsoever, that necessary to determine the validity of the within referenced mortgage(s).

2. To make demands upon financial institutions, "Lenders(s)" and Third Parties thereof, for correction of Billing Errors pursuant to Fair Credit Billing Act as codified at 15 USC 1601, 12 CRF226.13, Truth in Lending (Regulation Z), and validation of debt pursuant to the Fair Debt collections Practices Act codified at 15 USC 1692;

3. Upon proper findings re the "Mortgageor(s)" or Third Parties thereof engaged in improper or deceptive lending practices, to commence pre-judicial action to discharge all debt encompassed in such improper or deceptive lending practices;

4. ABSENT SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION in the pre-judicial action enumerated in # 3 above, to commence LEGAL ACTION against "Mortgagor(s)" in a court of proper jurisdiction, in the form of a Verified Complaint;

5. To subpoena, depose, or otherwise undertake all things necessary and requisite to obtain a lawful determination favorable to the "Grantor".

Further, I do authorize my aforesaid attorney-in-fact to acknowledge, accept and deliver any instrument under seal or otherwise, and TO DO ALL THINGS NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT THE INTENT HEREOF.....

The point being, I figured that Mortgage Alternatives would do those things as a last resort if their Systems and plans were unsuccessful. At least my contract with them says they defaulted IN NOT DOING THESE THINGS.

Assuming I wanted to demand specific performance, I would win since the company didn't perform, & didn't produce the service I signed up for & PAID FOR.

As far as contract law is concerned, the option of receiving or demanding those services were available & should have been provided but weren't.

Not it's official, they have QUIT, refusing to produce the very things the assignment of the contract called for.

Course MA went bankrupt like Nemo. Dorean still has funds to battle the foe. Dorean is still alive & kicking with hope and a plan. The others are officially dead.

Anonymous said...

Maybe me saying MA went bankrupt isn't totally fair or clear, although bankruptcy is often defined also as "insolvency". MA became insolvent because Gran's head person, Jeannie Henderson, put the company into the ground by taking all of the clients monies for her own personal profit. And she does this with no legal repercussions which is the strangest thing, no government intervention, no threats of legal recourse, no government threats of shutting Gran's business down, no court threats of fraud or malfeasance, etc.

Course in hindsight it is easy to agree with Kurt when he says they never had a system that ever got the attention of the powers that be, so they were never a threat, hence the government turned a blinds eye to their activities.

Whereas with Dorean, if you have a program that shows why the mortgage is legally discharged, the powers that be notice you and want to stop you. They do this by & threatening you, shutting down your business, financially hurting you at every corner and by taking you to court with bogus felony counts & imprisoning you without bail and without a speedy trial, so they can discredit you and your system, hoping that the clients will become restless and turn on you as further evidence, the system is a scam.

Jeannie Henderson tried to hypothecate a financial instrument to obtain funds for clients so they could be mortgage free. She went to some MidEastern country where there were sheiks, and then on to Spain to market this financial instrument in order to produce monies, but found out that the market to do this had dried up. It was after these failures, her theft took place. Maybe she knew that any successful plan was now nonexistant.

Course, disclosure should have been given to clients about all of this, but it wasn't. Gran was sleeping on the job obviously. Course Gran had no idea what was going on most of the time since he totally trusted her. And even if he did know most things, he purposely didn't disclose timely. Why Gran never did anything about Jeannie's theft is a mystery. I can only speculate she had too much on him which kept him silent, or maybe he just doesn't believe in justice or is too lazy to carry it out. Who really knows? That's another story that has never been fully told or disclosed to everyone & probably never will be.

neodemes said...


Tony Tuba said...

Let's not forget that some people that were in Mortgage Alternatives may have still been in the game if it were not for Jeannie Henderson. She was such a jerk to Kurt and Scott that they refused to deal with her and Mortgage Alternatives after the first 40 Trial Cases. Jeannie there was a TRUE crook!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Near the End said: "Hey Neo you did not respond to Mogel about your Bankruptcy problems my little BALD headed friend Why not?"

The best Nemo can do these days it seems is just to "yawn", or say something really intelligent like "scroll on past". Or well, maybe that's an improvement after all!!!

KYHOOYA said...

tcob247 said...

Thank you for your guidence wise master

4:40 PM


Yes Gr-Ass Hop-a Topper You think your self ready, then it is time! When you can snach the pebble from my hand, you will have learned all that I can teach you andit will be time for you to go but only when you can 'snach the pebble fom my hand will that time come.and then you will leave.????? Pebble, Hand?. Free room and board? .. ?hmmm Hey! wait a second, let's

Hey you know what that whole "pebble, Hand, being grabbing thing" You know it's been done to death and really I don't see the point way over rated if you ask me! And who else would you be asking anyway so hey let's just get past that and move on your moRE.. Than ready trust me on this one what we need to do is see how dam fast you pack a suitcase that is real life proble solving something you can us e. You feel me on that one so let's get you packig and the hell outy of here ..ghumm .. I mean shoe me what you have learned oh gr-Ass Hop-A Lotter? please show me how fast you pack for a trip any time now, No really! You can do it you have what it takes trust me I should know right? I mean who else would? So don't worry about the dam rock it was a bad idea to start with and way over done if you ask me . But hey you can do that in a post card or something let's not dwell on that now you got some packing to do if were going to have you out of here by sunrise.

For the love of God! Would.. You Just.. for get.. about the dam ROCK! Beleive me it's time for you to GOOOO...... trust me......! it's why! Time for you to go..

now get out in that big world and do whatyou do best oh! 'Gr-Ass-A-Hop-O-Lot-of'
Good By !

son of a prophet said...

"That's another story that has never been fully told or disclosed to everyone & probably never will be.

"...everything covered shall be uncovered..."

"there is nothing saiddone in secret that shall not be shouted from the rooftops..."

son of a prophet said...

your story about MA and the govt. not going after them sounds a lot like a similar case that i have heard of regarding a naturopathic physician who was just recently arrested and shut down when the govt. claimed that he was telling people that he was a real doctor.

this happened a few years ago and never made any sense to me. i am very knowledgable about natural healing and know that no natural healing practitioner would ever pose as a real doctor with phony degrees hanging on the wall.

to this day, i always thought of this doctor working with the govt. in a 'reverse sting' in oreder to discredit the natrual healing practitioners.

the FDA raided his office and arrested him and he is now in jail.

but i alwayas susupected that this guy was a phony who was some kind of criminal and that the govt. made a deal with him to make the claims that he did and so as to discredit the natrual healing industry. he had patients who claimed that he took x-rays and all other things and tests that only a licensed doctor could legally do.

but again, i know many naturopaths and they would never do anything like this.

somethin about this case never rang true with me.

i think that there is probably some mtg companies out there doing the same thing. stealing peoples money knowingly with govt. permission so when the people finally cmplain about them, the govt. can say, "see, i told you that these people are all frauds" and discredit the whole mortgage challenge process.

i think that MA may have been one of these sting companies. it sure sounds like it.

my 2c worth.

near the end said...

Nemo, My little BALD headed friend your not answering the question of why you "cheated all your creditors out of there money by fileing BANKRUPTCY". It must suck being your age "BALD" and ugly with no money and BAD CREDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stillwaiting3 said...

Read this and then reread some of your posts. If your on this blog just to be negative or a fanatical - STOP.. there is no reason for it. What good has any of your negative or demeaning posts accomplished for the rest of us?


The Peaceful Majority
>by William Haynes
>I used to know a man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World
>War II. They owned a number of large industries and estates. I asked
>him how many German people were true Nazis, and the answer he gave has
>stuck with me and guided my attitude toward fanaticism ever since.
>"Very few people were true Nazis," he said, "but many enjoyed the
>return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one
>of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the
>majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it,
>they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had
>come. My family lost everything I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories."
>We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam
>is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just
>want to live in peace.
>Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant.
>It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to
>somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in
>the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
>It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50
>shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
>slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are
>gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is
>the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the
>fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
>zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and
>homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the "peaceful majority" is the "silent majority" and it is cowed and extraneous.
>Communist Russia comprised Russians who just wanted to live in peace,
>yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20
>million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge
>population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill
>a staggering 70 million people.
>The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a
>warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across
>South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic
>murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel,
>and bayonet. And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery.
>Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?
>History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our
>powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
>Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
>Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up,
>because like my friend from Germany, they will awake one day and find
>that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
>Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
>Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many
>others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
>As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay attention to the only
>group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
>Lastly, I wish to add: I sincerely think that anyone who rejects this
>as just another political rant, or doubts the seriousness of this issue
>or just deletes it without paying heed to it, or sending it on, is part
>of the problem.
>Let's quit laughing at and forwarding the jokes and cartoons which
>denigrate and ridicule our leaders in this war against terror. They are
>trying to protect the interests and well being of the world and it's
>citizens. Best we support them.

near the end said...

Nothing, It just puts Bruce in his place. Does'nt it my little BALD headed friend. Bruce you still have not answered why you cheated your creditors out of all your Debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unknown said...

near the end said...
Nothing, It just puts Bruce in his place. Does'nt it my little BALD headed friend. Bruce you still have not answered why you cheated your creditors out of all your Debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Isn't the dorean argument that the debt didn't exist to begin with?

You should be praising him, not scolding him, in accordance with the dorean beliefs?

Sounds like a little conflict there, "nte"

son of a prophet said...

"the fanatics who threaten our way of life......

.....control the US govt.........

Unknown said...

mogel said...
Justice: Let me try and make something clear to you.

Dorean still has funds to battle the foe. Dorean is still alive & kicking with hope and a plan. The others are officially dead.

THANK YOU, MOGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have finally showed how UN-informed you truly are.

So you really think that "dorean still has funds to battle the foe"?

Why don't you ask Dr. H. Fred Johnson to come here and tell everyone the truth publicly regarding the last of the dorean funds and where they are and who has possession of it?

Dorean is not only a joke, but BROKE to boot!

son of a prophet said...

all "terrorism" is state sponsored covertly through use of the intel agencies.

iraq etc. will never be controlled becasue the ptb dont want it to be; everytihng they tell you aside.

eventually, the public will figure it out, and when they do, a lot of people will be "swinging in the square" like sadlam did

son of a prophet said... order to create "order" from "chaos"

whataboutjere said...

Justice, you know that aint happenin. So why dont you tell us what the real story is?

My questions have gone on deaf ears, like, will the clients still get refunds or damages if kurt and scott lose. And, will clients get refunds or damages if kurt and scott are railroaded by the ptb?

On a related note, I feel sorry for those who are involved in the LIE-bo and PnU groups. Poor folks dont know that their damages are based on the outcome of this trial.

Judge Roy Bean said...

whataboutjere said...
"My questions have gone on deaf ears, like, will the clients still get refunds or damages if kurt and scott lose."

Refunds or damages from where?

There probably won't anything left to divide up after the fines and penalties.

Don't forget that some of the money clients paid went to the agents.

Far too many of the clients will be simply stuck. They're faced with trying to prove they weren't willing accomplices. The doctrine of unclean hands will preclude most of them from participating in any recovery ordered in the criminal case or even pursuing the agents and Heineman and Johnson in their own civil suits.

near the end said...

Hey justice dumbass who said I was a Dorean client I just don't like Bruce; he owes me $1220.00 he never paid me mind your own business little woman.

neodemes said...

near the end -

just what the world needs, another anonymous coward getting his rocks off behind a keyboard.