Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Pandora’s Box (05-10-07)

One thing Judge Alsup made clear was the loan activities were not going to be examined under his watch. The criminal threat he was certain would reassure this. Unfortunately for him he took that chance on a set of presumptions that have proven false. One being we would surrender. Two being that we were really con men. Three that we didn’t really know our subject matter. Four we would lawyer up to give him control of the outcome. Well in a Mens Rea case where your state of mind is on trial there are many ways to bring in evidence the prosecution does not want. Do you think how the bank does their transaction might be relevant to the state of mind behind my actions to further my artifice or scheme. State of mind is the key to the Pandora’s box of bank fraud, securities fraud, tax fraud and the myriad other crimes that are the practice of the government protected industry. Here is the cold truth about this subject matter. They have every lawyer on a leash not to come near the subject. If one appears they’ll make it too expensive to litigate. The only option of pro se is a trap they’ll wear you out with. They’ll use trickery forcing you through the discouraging labyrinth until you quit. Criminal is the fastest way to examine the contents of Pandora’s Box. You should all be glad it has gone the way it has. God heard your prayers and still you rail on Him for not answering them. He is smarter than His creation. Don’t you think when its time for a change He decrees He can get the job done even using the devil and his system? I do! What do you say we open Pandora’s Box on the public record and give Mr. Alsup the historical distinction of being the Judge who in defending its contents hurled the key toward us to scare us away? Now that’s a LOL even in heaven. Dorean was the perfect trap, the industry’s greed, the people’s foolishness, and the government duplicity have all merged in a once in a lifetime perfect storm. That’s what is appearing on my radar. How about yours? They don’t know my state of mind because they think their presumption were fact. By the time of this post they will get their first revelation that Pandora’s Box is within our grasp and that they were on the wrong planet that was a mindless wasteland with no institutions of Mens Rea. The party is just getting started.

22 comments:

gary glitter said...

I'm coming out, SO LET'S GET THIS


PARTY STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTED!!!!!

habakkuk said...

"Don’t you think when its time for a change He decrees He can get the job done even using the devil and his system?"

I absolutely agree with this Kurt. You hit the nail on the head. Just this morning I was reading in John 19 where Jesus says to Pilate: "The only power you have was given to you from above" Hey Alsup, dont be deceived by your own arrogance thinking you got control. G-D is in control.

Its also like when the devil was given permission to try Job.....G-d is sovereign and He will use whatever he wants to get glory out of the situation. Remember, Job got double for his trouble in the end.

sd said...

I wonder what odds Las Vegas would give to someone betting either side of this supposed upcomming trial?
Any estimates?

sd said...

Don't set the odds too high now. I know it is tempting but remember that our systems states that we are innocent until proven guilty.
Or at least that is what I heard.

sd said...

Of course I also heard that we are intitled to due process and also a speedy trial and a jury of our peers and don't forget that we are allowed to face our accuser. I suppose the accuser is the injured party right?
Who would that be in this case?
O.K. I heard someone thinking that it is the "Dorean Victims" (the clients of Dorean that lost their houses) but what if the government had not stepped in on the banks behalf, would the "Uniting Dorean Victims" still be injured?
So, our government that is set up to serve and protect the people are protecting who's interest?

These are just a few questions that I have been thinking about.
Things that make you go "HUMMMM"

habakkuk said...

"I heard someone thinking that it is the "Dorean Victims" (the clients of Dorean that lost their houses) but what if the government had not stepped in on the banks behalf, would the "Uniting Dorean Victims" still be injured?
So, our government that is set up to serve and protect the people are protecting who's interest?"

HA!! Good point

near the end said...

Notorial Dissent, Will you comment on "sd's" post. Since you seem to no all.

sd said...

"near the end", you spelled know "no" and that is incorrect, therefore your post does not have to be answered. You must be uneducated (Same as Me) therefore your opinion does not count. You should be made to go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

Hey that sounds like the makings of a good game.

I have a few statements to make and a few questions with which I would like some help.

1- All of you doreanites are foolish followers that can't think for yourselves.
By voiceing your opinions in opposition to the banks You must agree with everything ever uttered by Kurt therefore you are all nuts. He's nuts, your nuts, and you all belong in jail for thinking the way that you think. After all this is a free country and we cannot remain free if we have people like you out there?

2- I really enjoy the posts that go something like this:
All of this bank fraud rubbish is just a bunch of hogwash jibberish, If I disagree with it, it must be rubbish and has no place in this country. Love it or leave it. Like it or lump it. Na,Na,Na,Na,Na

3- You know K & S and all their associates are guilty otherwise they would not be in jail (right?)

4- You know that our government would never do anything to harm you. It is there to protect you. To save you from getting hurt, to serve you and to look after your best interest. To represent you as a group as well as an individual.
Remember what our leader Hitler said, "the needs of the many outway the needs of the few."

Oh, sorry about the mention of Hitler, this is not Nazi Germany, this is the good ole USA. where we are protected by the constitution as long as you kneel down to the powers that be and pay the graft that they demand.

Oh, sorry again, I didn't mean to call taxes graft.

5- After all the government needs my tax dollars, they can't print money for themselves.

6- Oh sorry again, they can print money, so why is it that they need mine again?

7- Oh, that's right, it is to pay the bankers back for all the money that our government borrowed from them.

To heck with the numbers...

My question there is: Why would a government that can print its own money need to borrow from a bank that gets their money from the government printing office?

Oh, that's right, the bankers were nice enough to pay for the money they ordered from the bureau of printing and engraving. (approximately 4 cent per bill no matter what the denomination.)
Now that's a fair deal for the taxpayer now isn't it?
How can we loose when we are being looked after so well?

There I go again, If I don't like it, why don't I just leave? Well, to tell the truth I have been thinking of going to Mexico but I decided that if I stay put just a little longer, it will come to me so why pay the high gas prices for the trip?

Sorry about the tangent, Here we go back on subject...
You know that the banks are there to help us and they certainly would not do anything illegal?

Because everytime they are caught they are nice enough to lobby (or buy off) the governing officials into changing the statutes that cover the error that they were caught doing. Then it is no longer illegal. Therefore the banks operate within the law.

And besides that, even if the banks and or the government did do something wrong, that does not give anyone like K or S or you or me the right to fight against them.

If the government says that the banking system is OK then who are we to say different?

What gives you the right to stand up and say that you think they stink?

......Just blowing off steam
Just More ranting and raving
Maybe more later, it depends on my mood.
Sorry it was so long, I'll try to do better next time.

sd

~~The Swami~~~ said...

sd said...
"near the end", you spelled know "no" and that is incorrect, therefore your post does not have to be answered. You must be uneducated (Same as Me) therefore your opinion does not count. You should be made to go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

Hey that sounds like the makings of a good game.

I have a few statements to make and a few questions with which I would like some help.

1- All of you doreanites are foolish followers that can't think for yourselves.
By voiceing your opinions in opposition to the banks You must agree with everything ever uttered by Kurt therefore you are all nuts. He's nuts, your nuts, and you all belong in jail for thinking the way that you think. After all this is a free country and we cannot remain free if we have people like you out there?

2- I really enjoy the posts that go something like this:
All of this bank fraud rubbish is just a bunch of hogwash jibberish, If I disagree with it, it must be rubbish and has no place in this country. Love it or leave it. Like it or lump it. Na,Na,Na,Na,Na

3- You know K & S and all their associates are guilty otherwise they would not be in jail (right?)

4- You know that our government would never do anything to harm you. It is there to protect you. To save you from getting hurt, to serve you and to look after your best interest. To represent you as a group as well as an individual.
Remember what our leader Hitler said, "the needs of the many outway the needs of the few."

Oh, sorry about the mention of Hitler, this is not Nazi Germany, this is the good ole USA. where we are protected by the constitution as long as you kneel down to the powers that be and pay the graft that they demand.

Oh, sorry again, I didn't mean to call taxes graft.

5- After all the government needs my tax dollars, they can't print money for themselves.

6- Oh sorry again, they can print money, so why is it that they need mine again?

7- Oh, that's right, it is to pay the bankers back for all the money that our government borrowed from them.

To heck with the numbers...

My question there is: Why would a government that can print its own money need to borrow from a bank that gets their money from the government printing office?

Oh, that's right, the bankers were nice enough to pay for the money they ordered from the bureau of printing and engraving. (approximately 4 cent per bill no matter what the denomination.)
Now that's a fair deal for the taxpayer now isn't it?
How can we loose when we are being looked after so well?

There I go again, If I don't like it, why don't I just leave? Well, to tell the truth I have been thinking of going to Mexico but I decided that if I stay put just a little longer, it will come to me so why pay the high gas prices for the trip?

Sorry about the tangent, Here we go back on subject...
You know that the banks are there to help us and they certainly would not do anything illegal?

Because everytime they are caught they are nice enough to lobby (or buy off) the governing officials into changing the statutes that cover the error that they were caught doing. Then it is no longer illegal. Therefore the banks operate within the law.

And besides that, even if the banks and or the government did do something wrong, that does not give anyone like K or S or you or me the right to fight against them.

If the government says that the banking system is OK then who are we to say different?

What gives you the right to stand up and say that you think they stink?

......Just blowing off steam
Just More ranting and raving
Maybe more later, it depends on my mood.
Sorry it was so long, I'll try to do better next time.

sd









Call me crazy, but I don't think he likes us.

southernbythegraceofgod said...

ya THINK????

near the end said...

sd, I like you.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

SD, I didn't read your post right. I was too excited because I'm celebrating my ten year anniversary of being divorced!!!! I skimmed when I should have read. In the words of Brother Love," Nothing But Love To You.......BROTHER".

Whatever happened to Brother Love? I hope that Big Headed Baby next to him didn't get him. I haven't heard from him since he was offering the trips to Easter Island(The Giant Headed Baby). Where are you Brother Love?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I've just learned!!!!!!!!!!


Brother Love is Dead. He has been eaten by Rosie O'Donnell. Poor guy. Oh well. Life goes on.


R.I.P. Brother Love

1974 - 2006

Eaten by Rosie O'Donnell on November 9, 2006.



Brother Love. Coming to a sewer plant near you.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

By the way SD, the Vegas betting angle has already been played over two years ago by Dr Dollar.

-----------------------------------
By drdollar


IT IS A GO! WE ARE GOING TO TAKE BETS ON MORTGAGE ELIMINATION AT THE CASINO I WORK AT. EACH COMPANY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN ODDS FOR POSSIBILITY OF SUCCESS AS WELL AS AN OVER/UNDER LINE FOR QUANTITY OF SUCCESSES. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND HAVE NOT E-MAILED ME YET,PLEASE DO SO AND I WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION. ITS TIME TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS FOLKS.

GOOD BETTING,
SID

http://web.archive.org/web/20050304172818/www.propertysites.com/forums/read.php?TID=443&pagenum=25

~~The Swami~~~ said...

LONG LIVE THE " I Have A Boil On My Butt" thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's Gold Jerry...........GOLD!!!


Neodemes had it shut down, but the archived files live on!!!!!!!!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Oh we did have fun on Propertysites!!!!!!

http://web.archive.org/web/20050304082611/www.propertysites.com/forums/read.php?TID=415

GYHOOYA said...

~~The Swami~~~ said...
SD, I didn't read your post right. I was too excited because I'm celebrating my ten year anniversary of being divorced!!!! I skimmed when I should have read. In the words of Brother Love," Nothing But Love To You.......BROTHER"
****************************


Now there you go 'Skimming' again, how many time must you be told to leave the skimming to the one's that know how to do it the best.

SEE BELOW for the who's who










The BANKER thats who as in
'Skimming off the top'

And boy do they know how to do that lets see
Late fee's
Over the limit fee's
Past due fee's
Pay by phone fee's
Online payment fee's
Interest fee's
Open account fee's
Monthly maint. fee's
Accoumts Start up fee's
Extra card's fee's
Statement copy fee's
Payoff demand fee's
Document drawing fee's
Past Payment history fee's
Early payment fee's
Holding fee's
Past cutoff time fee's
NSF for someother acct fee
Early withdrawl fee's
Account closing fee
Account mo. Maintance fee
Currencey exchange fee
Daily period. interest fee
Brokers fee's
Originators fes
credit report fees
Appreasal report fee
underwriting fee
A.R. underwriters review fee
application fee
title report fee
transfer fee's
Check cashhing fee's
O.L. acct withdrawl fee's
Online access fee's
C.S. help fee's
ATM fee's
Check writing fee's
Checking acct. fee's
savings Acct. fee's
High yeild acct. fee's
Mortgage insurance fee's
Escrow accts. fee's
Ect. Ect. Ect. fee's
And the list goes on fee's .....and on amd on......so on and on...


This of course is just off the top of my head and by know means the full list on how the bank's skim your money for ant way possable they can remove some for themselfs.

Really you have to give them 'credit' (No pun intented) (Well, maybe just a little bit of intent)when it comes to the creative way's they keep coming up with new terms and the wording they use to charge you all these fee's, now don't we?
I don't think so I mean let's just say it loud and clear so there is 'no' (just for U SD it's nice not to be alone) mistake what is going on and what I like to call it
The Bankers

'System,Skimming,Schemers'
and there
'Shifty Scheming System Skimmimg'
And our 'Good4nothing Granting Greedy Goggleising Gov't'
Who
impower them so they can make up any charge they want at amny time they want.

Have you read the 'Terms of aggreements on one of your acct. anytime latly I don't understand why they waste the paper for all that wording when a simple statemnet like

We will do and change and term on your acct. when every we feel we want to and when to do so will net us the most money from you weather that will be seen as fair we don't give a dam we will do it any way.

Oh and if this was one of are special acct. with a zero persent interst rate or low start rate then Don't expect that to last past the time iot will take you to use the acct. and have any kinda sizable amount on it we will then find something to make it look likewere not complete assholes but even if we can't find that you can still expect the balance to get charge at the then new interest rate that will start from the first day you used the card weather it had nothing to do with the balance you have on it when we change the zero rate to prime plus what ever amount we deem more money to us should be at the time . Thank you for choosing for all of your ass streaching needs and don't forget



'Have a nice day!'


By now


please feel free to add to the list at any time.

So see Swami you have to be a pro and Gov't lic. before you go around Skimmimg things so just keep that in mind the next time you try want to do that.
LOL Funny arn't I NA na na na na a naNa nana OH ya good BY!
nana ....
I'll save it as I sure thats what everyone is thinking about that song now.
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Golf anyone? I'm off to the club now Don't want to be late for my 4:00 tee time you know how they hate that and those LATE GREENS FEE"S are Murder on the old wallet

So Whats in your Mallet?

Hahahah
C-ya!

the gestapo said...

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER

Emergency detention plan: 'This way to the camps!'

Directive from Bush allows president extraordinary powers in national crisis

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Posted: May 30, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



Halliburton's former engineering and construction subsidiary has a contingency contract with the Department of Homeland Security to construct detention facilities in the event of a national emergency, according to WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

As Corsi reported last week, President Bush recently signed a little-reported National Security and Homeland Security Directive granting extraordinary powers to the president in the event of a declared national emergency, apparently without congressional approval or oversight.

Houston-based KBR was awarded an initial $385 million contract in January 2006 for one year, with four one-year options extended into 2007. KBR held a previous emergency detention contract with ICE from 2000 to 2005.

ICE spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback told Corsi the primary intent of the contract was to build temporary detention facilities that could be used in the event of a mass migration crisis, but she confirmed the facilities could be employed in national emergencies, including natural disasters.



"The idea of the KBR contract is to support the Army Corp of Engineers in case we experienced a sudden mass immigration and we had to respond quickly," she said. "We would need immediate detention facilities in the form of temporary housing that would enable us to determine if the large numbers of illegal immigrants were political or economically motivated, or if they were criminals or terrorists."

Corsi reported last week the May 9 directive signed by Bush concentrates an unprecedented amount of emergency authority in the office of the president, specifying the chief executive would have the authority to direct "National Essential Functions" of all federal state, local, territorial and tribal governments, as well as private sector organizations in the event of a national emergency.

The directive loosely defines "catastrophic emergency" as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy or government functions."

The KBR contingency contract appears to give ICE the ability to have detention facilities constructed under the president's direction in response to a national emergency as declared under the new directive.

ICE's Zuieback said she was not familiar with the directive, and at her request, Corsi e-mailed her the link to the White House's posting of the directive.

The White House has not responded to a request for comment on the story about the directive.

the gestapo said...

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WANTED:

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the gestapo said...

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Richard said...

You go Kurt and Scott!
Rich-Colorado Springs

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Yes, unfortunately it looks like its coming to that.


1000 year (fake) Millenial Kingdom led by AC = 1000 year Third Reich ???????????????????