Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Life Lessons (October 21, 2007)

Many people run from danger which is instinctive but can also be a danger unto itself. During the course of developing the Dorean Process and examining people to assist me, I learned that most people don't know when greatness is presented to them. Their fears preclude them from ever seeing what amazing things God will do for the faither. There are a few I really wanted to deliver to greatness but when it came to that moment of decision their hearts melted within them. The one thing giants offer you in your path is that they will destroy you or give you a reputation as a champion. I don't understand how a Christian man who is guaranteed that only God can destroy you can fall for this ridiculous boast. There is that scripture that if God is for us who can be against us. Do you guys really think the small minds with the big mouths on this blog are dangerous? They could never see or understand what God was doing with Dorean because they are simpletons living in houses with foundations of fear. Already God has expanded my understanding in this course change to make me see greater victories than I had previously imagined. He is always about blessing His children.

I want to encourage you who love the Lord to lean not on your own understanding but acknowledge God as Master and He will be a lamp unto your feet. I preach to myself but also want you to follow me as I follow Christ. As a man I don't like giants but as a man hopeful in my God a giant is a resume waiting to be written. Our resume is being written by history at this very moment. A few of you will have a good testimony in God's courts. The suffering created by evil is temporary but the restoration afforded the faithful is forever. The one thing that troubled me about some of the testimony is that I have been down over two years and still these clients are on a wait and see attitude. In two years they could have slain the giant many times over if they ignored their fears and ran to the promise of the Lord with faith. We are free willed creatures able to impact our lives and destinies with our actions. When we in faith "Amen" a promise of God we can co-create with Him an entirely new future. Even now in the middle of my trial I am actively wrestling for the best possible future. I have had hundreds of coward's exits present themselves. It is those refused that have allowed me this moment in history to go beyond fiction to that place where truth is stranger still.

The blogs will be thin as I spend most of my time in trial and traveling. Your prayers are appreciated and making a difference. One example is when I stayed up all night preparing for a witness I entered the court almost too exhausted to do the job before me. God says so is your day so is your strength. That promise and your prayer caused me to prevail upon my enemy when I did not have the strength and the opportunity presented itself. In my weakness God shows Himself strong and you who love Him as faithful. I prepared for Mt. Everest but only had to climb one of the rolling hills of Dublin. May God keep me always in a state of over-preparedness. By the time this post we will have completed our second week of trial. It is my hope God has prevailed again upon our enemies. I can not tell you how this is going to end because God has me on the edge of my seat. I can tell you that victory is certain. The only question I have is what path to victory is God going to take. I know He has prepared me to be comfortable with any path He chooses. I have twice now proven to Him that I will sacrifice my life for the glory of His service. If He thinks I need to prove it again He will not be disappointed. If any of you question my commitment imagine yourselves asking a jury to enter a guilty plea when a life sentence hangs in the balance. I'm not trying to impress you I am only doing what I believe is my duty first to God and then to the beneficiaries. This may already be verified by the Qautloose reporter. If not get a hold of the transcripts.

29 comments:

neodemes said...

"If any of you question my commitment imagine yourselves asking a jury to enter a guilty plea when a life sentence hangs in the balance."

On the contrary, I think you should be committed.

Praise be to God said...

Kurt and Scott, I believe in you as well as god. I can only speak for myself. If things don't go as well as we had all hoped, that’s all right too. Because of all of this I have become closer to the lord and for that I am ever so grateful. I’m sure, I will get some comments about this but what’s important is that we all start getting loser to our lord and savior.
God, Bless and keep you both.
Your guys are fight to give us all a better live, and that will come if we follow the lord and never lose faith. And because of you guys, I wont. We have the lord working with us and As it says in the bible ask and you shall receive, But first you must believe. And we have the lord on our side. So we have a chanced for the better life, I know god will Prevail. I can’t speak for other but he has never let me down. I have a guarding angle around me all my life. He has never let me down and I know he is not going to stop now. I pray God will bless all who read this, even the people that don’t believe, I pray they can find themselves to the Lord our God. Bless you guys and may all your dreams come true.

Your sister in Christ.

mogel007 said...

Pauligirl was kind enough to leave
this link in which tells Todd Swansons side of the story:

http://www.mail-archive.com/libertarian
exchange@yahoogroups.com/
msg00709.html

It is interesting to note that Todd Swanson is not through with fighting his revocation of his CPA license in NC & SC and intends to appeal, but his finances aren't in order to do this right now. He needs the prayers and financial support of others too along with the same sincere prayers for Kurt & Scott to keep on, keeping on.

It's obvious to me that those that sat in judgment upon Mr. Swanson did not discuss or debate the Federal Reserve publications or any of his exhibits & evidence, so his judges were very bias in coming to their judgment to sanction him, not to mention how quickly they came to a decision, tells me that something is very fishy and unfair in his sanctions. It is also obvious to me that he sincerely believes in his testimony and is not supporting a perceived scam in his viewpoint.

It's apparent to me that he has already given his testimony concerning the accounting of a bank loan and the court should have that anyway, and giving the same testimony on deaf ears is not going to change anything at this point in time.

Judge Roy Bean said...

The person allegedly posting for Kurt said: "I can not tell you how this is going to end because God has me on the edge of my seat. I can tell you that victory is certain."

Right.

Hey, Gashler, Swanson's going to be in custody eventually for failure to appear. I guess you figure being a fugitive will help him like it helped Johnson?

What was your deal? What did you have to do or say to get out of an being indicted?

notorial dissent said...

Quoting Kurt If any of you question my commitment imagine yourselves asking a jury to enter a guilty plea when a life sentence hangs in the balance.

Actually since you don’t ask a jury to enter a guilty plea, the whole monologue, like everything else you have generated so far is just more nonsense. One enters a plea before a judge, a jury renders a verdict of guilty or not guilty. Your only commitment is to prevarication and nonsense.

Note to Kurt. Just who did you actually steal this from? You're not smart enough to have thought of any of it up yourself, so inquiring minds want to know which hoary old con artists did you lift the various parts of this from? I recognize bits and pieces of it but can't quite place it. You obviously didn't steal it from anyone very competent or you wouldn't be where you are right now, but then on the other hand, even the best cons, when handled by inept amateurs seldom work, and you’ve already demonstrated your oh so impressive abilities previously haven’t you?

So in other words, Swanson has no real credentials even as a CPA. Just because you call yourself a CPA doesn’t make you one, and it is obvious from Swanson’s own words, that he has no real training, and therefore no real credentials to be making the pronouncements he has made. The fact that all his pronouncements are flat out nonsense only goes back to proving that he, like his buddies the dim duo, is a fraud.

Swanson was reviewed by the competent boards of hearing in each of the states, staffed by real CPA’s and accountants, who reviewed the nonsense he had been peddling, and the actions he had taken, and passed judgement, THAT HE WAS UNFIT TO BE LICENSED IN THOSE STATES for failure to meet professional and integrity standards that are necessary to remain in that profession. He can ballyhoo for whatever nonsense he wants to, but when it goes against standard and accepted accounting practices and principals, he gets his license yanked. Swanson isn’t smart enough to have discovered something all these other people somehow missed, but he is stupid enough, and dishonest enough to be out shilling for it, and that cost him his licenses, and will eventually result in his losing his freedom, having now become a Federal fugitive.

Swanson was given more than adequate notice, and opportunity to not only defend his beliefs but back up his claims, he did not even have the courage of his convictions to attend the hearings, he lost his license and will never get one back. He will be lucky if he does not end up in jail for his contribution to a fraud case.

The nonsense he entered as proof of his claims has long been discredited by competent real professionals, and did not warrant any further discussion, any more than the nonsense the dim duo are trying to foist off as their great discovery and process. So just one more incompetent con artist on his way to the slammer. Hardly a ringing character witness, other than lack of character for the dim duo.

Yetter said...

If any negative assement of Todd Swanson by this forum is true, he would be a star for any Wall Street Brokerage.

sopsback said...

....we all know that something BIG is about to go down, well now yo can fill in detils...

(not good if true)

from an email sent to me:
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TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same "credit creating" system used by international banking. The law governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via phone. The following is the text of that interview.

"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.

Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners and controllers of the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral totalitarian plan for the control of the world.

A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded, other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.

Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies. They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years before the United States government declared joint stock trusts illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.

The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive the principal at the end of the term.

Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations, the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they are in today.

In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the Treasury, had secretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas. They could legally do this because Texas is only a part of the United States by treaty. This treaty is automatically renewed every year. It has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made it possible for Texas to create its own money.

The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank, and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Word got out and the result was that the German banker was murdered, the Austrian banker was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.

In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks. With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985 we researched it and still could not understand it.

Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was if they would do three things:

1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This would eliminate cash altogether.

2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system. This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number. Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.

3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.

This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and conditions.

When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made to some of the debtor nations.

It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies' arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the holding companies were owed the money.

The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of holding companies is threefold:

1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able to declare themselves insolvent.

2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle Eastern Nations.

3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their other assets.

These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25% of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the benevolent bankers on three fronts:

1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.

2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have no money to use.

3. Stop tax cheating.

NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's program.

It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis. Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.

When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime banks will end up with all the properties.

President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund. Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for racketeering.

You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.

Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000 is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S. Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER

thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order to understand the larger picture.

In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors' unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.

Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the money you make in the United States."

Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with every tank of gas they bought.

As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks, bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy international investors in a very short period of time and they had no grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.

The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks to a less accountable entity.

The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time. They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be unable to pay back their loans.

The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest - if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a number and his purchases are debited from his account on a computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural resources in the country.

The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement. Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.

Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural resources.

At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.

HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible for the loans.)

Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say, "Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.

The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic. This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to you!" and offer a solution to our problems.

Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.

Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars" system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars" is all show because the satellites are already in place!

(snip)

Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing panics the international establishment like the possibility of a threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV, newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put them back to sleep".

Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the owners of the Federal Reserve:

Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.

In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8 banks.

sopsback said...

all maks cents...


everynone yoozes debt cods

no mo real cassh mooney yoozed.


dg pay everynone in credit cods???

wha abut all the HYPEs???

ho will thay pay??

sopsback said...

the point of the long stroy is that they are going to CRASH the sock market BIG TIME!


TAKE OUT ALL YO MOONEY FROM THE SOCKS MARKET B4 YO LOOSE YO FEET!

me too! i gonna take my hole 8 shares of sox out.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "He can ballyhoo for whatever nonsense he wants to, but when it goes against standard and accepted accounting practices and principals, he gets his license yanked."
_______________________________

Mr. Swanson got his CPA license just like everyone else that has a CPA license. He got educated, and passed a competence exam. According to GAAP, Mr. Swanson has a different point of view than those that sanctioned him, except Mr. Swanson shows his point of view by quoting Federal Reserve Publications and knowledgeable experts smarting than you or I or his judges & discusses the subject and information no one wants to discuss, consider, or debate, but just totally dismiss as hogwash. That point of view of just dismissing all the expert material is not acceptable in any review sanctioning body or any court.

Mr. Swanson defending his position very well, but as I mentioned earlier, his point of view fell on deaf and ignornant ears. You can defend a position a hundred times, but if no one is really listening fairly, it's pointless.

mogel007 said...

"Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one unit of currency they have on deposit."

Let Notarial Dissent explain that type of practice according to GAAP principles since he pretends to be an expert Judge on the subject.

mogel007 said...

Judge Bean said: "Hey, Gashler, Swanson's going to be in custody eventually for failure to appear. I guess you figure being a fugitive will help him like it helped Johnson?

What was your deal? What did you have to do or say to get out of an being indicted?"
________________________________

Let me make it perfectly clear to you since you have asked this question several times & I have attempted to answer this before. I have made NO DEAL WHATSOEVER. I have never had to. The FBI hasselled members of my family and that was the extent of the situation. If they really wanted to contact me or find me, I am easily found & they have the resources to do that. I have NEVER been contacted by the FBI, or any agency, or authority. I am an "insignificant" and no one of consequence. I have only told the truth as I see it from day one, and have been criticized for my point of view by many on this board and misunderstood by many, been called a "liar" and other special names and labels.

Your problem Judge is that you make assumptions that ARE ENTIRELY FALSE, along with your assumption that I NEEDED to make a deal. You obviously can't prove otherwise.

Unlike you, I believe the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE and that's all I've ever attempted to do and discover when it comes to the subject of Dorean.

notorial dissent said...

the Sop blathered forth and generated nothing of value Sopems, it is fascinating to find that you are an even bigger fount of nonsense and delusion than our dear Moogems, but still nonsense and gibberish non the less.

Little tiny detail, that may have slipped your trap like intellect. The UCC is purely a product of US law, pertains only to the US, and was developed as part of the Uniform Commercial Code model that was developed back in the late 40's and 50's. It had nothing to do with England, the IMF, or international banking, and in fact would not even be recognized in Europe or foreign commerce.

The fact that you begin with nonsense and falsehood foretells that you are shilling nonsense and falsehood. Do you have nothing better to do than steal from other websites and not attribute?

Ordinarily I would say that your village called looking for you, but they have gotten an unlisted number and are denying all knowledge of you.

Moogey, you obviously, as I have pointed out prviously, do not read the stuff you steal either. If Swanson had had valid credentials, he would have listed them in his oh so boring bio, curiously, they are resoundingly absent, other than his reference to having “studied” under another accountant. In most jurisdictions this does not constitute proper training for certification, he may have done this in one of the few jurisdictions that used to allow that, but it hardly qualifies him, or in fact guarantees he is anything less than the incompetent and fraud he is coming off as.

You are quite true, that Swanson exhibited his “different point of view”, and got roundly laughed at and discredited for the effort. As I said, he can hold any inane theory he wants to, but when it contradicts established practice and theory then he is a fool and he has been so adjudged. If in fact he actually knew what GAAP was, he would not and could not have made the incredibly duplicitous statements he did. His theories have been discredited both by the profession and the law repeatedly, and holding them no matter how deeply he may believe in his delusion, does not change the fact that they are a fantasy both professionally and legally.

No Moogey, the point is that they knew it was a crock to begin with, and treated it as such. Nice try though.

If Swanson actually were a real, competent, and qualified, professional, he wouldn’t be a disbarred Federal fugitive as we speak.

mogel007 repeated some nonsense he didn’t understand... "Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one unit of currency they have on deposit."

Moogs, if you knew anything about history, accounting, economic, banking, or much of anything else for that matter, you would know that all banking is and has always been based on fractional reserves, and always has been from the dawn of banking, otherwise it doesn’t work.

Moogs, I don’t have to explain anything, since this is the way banking has always been carried on, and if you actually knew what GAAP was you would know just how incredibly stupid and naive this whole story is, but then you don’t really want to know, or you would have long ago gone and talked to a “real” accountant or auditor, or business teacher, who after laughing at your utter gullibility would have explained, hopefully, in words of one syllable how it really works as opposed to the opium dreams dim and dimmer, and apparently you, are peddling.

Moogey actually says something of significance I am an "insignificant" and no one of consequence. For once a statement with which I can agree whole heartedly and unreservedly with.

If, as you say, you are merely stating your convictions and beliefs, then I will grant you that much character. It does not alter for one minute, however, that you are an utter and self serving fool. You have been presented with facts and contradictions that refute everything thing you have said, and rather than having the courage to actually try and find out, you have buried your head and remained resolutely ignorant of reality, for that you get no praise. You’ve had more than ample opportunity to verify the things that have been said in opposition to your mythology, and you have not bothered to investigate from any source other than the internet sites that agree with what you want to hear. Faith in ones convictions is one things, stubbornly clinging to your stupidity is entirely another. And the fact remains, you are a liar. You misquote, and when it serves your purposes make things up out of whole cloth to suit your needs, if that is not the definition of a liar then I do not know what is.

You also need to lookup the definitions of sarcasm, not that I think you will ever recognize it, but you really should know what it is since so much of it is directed your way.

Yetter said...

Mogel.Typical behavior from the twat loose knuckle draggers. Attack and discredit. Peace be with you.

notorial dissent said...

Yetter, since when is the truth considered an attack? The facts are that Swanson has no real credentials to be doing anything but playing errand boy. The facts are that he has been disbarred as an accountant / CPA / whatever, not by people unfamiliar with the field or the ethics or requirements of the profession, but by people who were his peers in the field, THEY determined that he was unfit to practice. That is a fact, that is the truth. Spielbauer is in incompetent and a fraud, and will very soon be joining the ranks of the disbarred, and may even get an adjoining cell with the “boys” if the criminal charges against him are sustained. This too is a fact, and is the truth. The facts are that the vapor money theory has been disproven by the professions whose business it is to know what is going on, it has been declared a fraud in innumerable courts, most recently in Judge Alsup’s Federal civil courtroom, as well as various other state and Federal courts. It is realistically and judicially a FRAUD, and no matter what the protests or excuses, it will remain so, that is a fact and a truth. Don’t like it, tough!!! You can really sincerely, honestly and absolutely believe that the earth is flat and the moon is made of green cheese and come up with all the “proof” you want, but it won’t change the facts, and the truth, that you are wrong.

I guess the truth is an attack when it proves some nonsense you just really want to believe in to be just that, nonsense, but you know what, life is rough, open your eyes, read something that isn't on the internet, and grow up and quit acting like spoiled three year olds.

sopsback said...

"jus' the fax...."



lol! yeah, tell that the eye-rack-ees who got bom to smith-a-reens.....


"but we dun have any wmd's"


gov: "it dun matter; wha maffers is, 'we say yo did'
that all that counts"
who sayed that trooth haf anynothing to do with it??

trooth-what that all aoubt?

sopsback said...

advise for pres.

dun go to utah, if yo do, yo mite get rested by the provo marshall

better to go to sawlt lake city

accoding to wrul bullsh reputz

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Thursday 1 November 2007 02:19

PROVOST MARSHAL IS NOW INVOLVED IN WANTA SCANDAL

POWER TO ARREST PRESIDENT, CHENEY AND TOP BANKERS

ESCALATION OF THE WANTAGATE CRISIS BRINGS U.S. TO BRINK OF CHAOS


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pleeze dun allrest the bakers till i get my dough out; all $2.39 wurth. that all the bred i have.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: "You’ve had more than AMPLE OPPORTUNITY to verify the things that have been said in opposition to your mythology,"....

Then says, "You also need to lookup the definitions of sarcasm, not that I think you will EVER RECOGNIZE it,"
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I guess sarcastically speaking, assuming I had AMPLE OPPORTUNITY, do you really think I could RECOGNIZE the truth?

Obviously not, from your point of view, so your post is just vanity and B.S. and rhetoric as usual. It's like someone setting up another as a loser & creating a scenario where the person is incapable of winning, but also judging the person for not being a winner. Saying I should do something, but believing full well such is an impossibility in your insightful mind. LOL

I think your hypocrisy is kind of a sarcastic joke. Never met a hypocrite who wasn't also a liar.

I'm judged and convicted even without a fair chance or fair debate in your mind, much like Mr. Swanson.

Your own words show how closed minded and prejudice you are, yet you feel that I'm the one with the problem and should be more open minded and more knowledgeable about the real truth. LOL

Mr. Swanson's credentials aren't the real issue, I'm sorry to inform you. He has the credential of being a CPA, and learned from someone who has written several books on the subject of discussion, namely Tom Shauf, a recognized authority in his own right. The important issue is that Mr. Swanson cites many authorities on the subject of accounting, lending, and his point of view is supported by more educated people with more credentials than you or I that support his conclusions, so your peanut gallery opinions and childish name calling means nothing to me.

Why don't you attack specifically the authorities and books Mr. Swanson quotes from and talk specifics in your posts. All you can do is talk in general terms and use labels and names to discredit people. That's something children do.

I hope I don't have any recognition of any sarcasm in this post, because that would prove you to be a severe hypocrite if not an outright liar yourself.

Course 1 John 1: 8 says: "If we say we sin not, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." We all sin, and hence we are all imperfect, so none of us can be 100% truthful, 100% of the time, for that's a human impossibility. If we were always honest and fair with ourselves, we would never sin, that just stands to reason, yet we all do it in one form or degree from time to time. Yet if you talk of Christ, you get things said about you, like "GET OVER YOURSELF." as if talking about Christ is some sort of vanity.

Have you ever noticed, the people that judge the most harshly, are always the people with the most hypocrisy and vanity, they are trying to hide?

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent spews: "Spielbauer is in incompetent"
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Was Mr. Spielbauer an "incompetent in his many years as a prosecuting or district attorney? Didn't the Department of Justice or Bar Association recognize this incompetency through those many years of law practice he had PRIOR to meeting up with the Dorean Group?

Or is your statement just a blanket statement about the United States DOJ in the Northern District of California, generally speaking? Is the DOJ culpable too by allowing an incompetent to practice those many years and still EVEN TODAY to practice law?

mogel007 said...

NOTARIAL DISSENT factually states: "Spielbauer is in incompetent and a fraud, and will very soon be joining the ranks of the disbarred,"
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OK, I'll bite, where do you get your authority to state this as a fact?

2 years AFTER THE FACT, you expect everyone to believe you that Spielbauer is going to be disbarred soon.

Well, I'm listening where you are getting this factual information and from what source?

Please make it believable too when you give your B.S. answer. I patiently await.

Scott from Vineland said...

SOP said:

“A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than double the price of body light crude oil.”

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Now he needs your help to get the money out of the country…..

notorial dissent said...

Nice to see you are consistent Moogs, taking two unrelated statements and pretending they are. Incidently, the sarcasm remark was made with regard to JRB’s comments, not mine. I wouldn’t waste the effort on you.

Moogs, I have no idea if you would recognize the truth if it walked up and bit you in the ass, however, evidence of your past behavior would tend to indicate not.

My point was that you have had more than ample opportunity to research and verify, and yet you show no indication of having done so.

Moogs, you, like Mr Swanson, have presented your positions and have been found wanting, you were each given more than ample opportunity to present something of substance and value and yet you did not. Swanson’s nonsense has long been discredited and dismissed for the dross it is, and just because he thinks he reinvented the wheel does not make it any less the dross that it is, and those who actually knew what they were talking about saw it as such and told him so. Neither of you have been denied hearing, but hearing does not imply acceptance just because you want to run your mouth. There is no requirement to keep proving the earth is round just because you are convinced that it is flat and are just sure that if you only talk long enough someone will believe you, it doesn’t work that way, your theory has long been proven false, and it is no longer necessary to do more than label it the crap it is and move on.

Moogs, just because someone claims to be something doesn’t make them one. While someone who graduated from the Irwin Rommel School of Law may perhaps claims the credentials of a lawyer, given the choice between them and someone from Cornell Law, guess who I would take. And in the real world, the Rommel graduate has the same standing as Swanson, which is to say NONE.

Since I have yet to see Swanson actually point to anything your point is moot. The fact remains, his theories are bogus, and are and have long been dismissed by his professional peers, and there opinions carry far more weight and veritas than Swansons.

Again, your ability to twist unrelated statements to your own delusions is amazing, I quite frankly find it offensive, but not unsurprising.

You might want to look up the definition of hypocrisy, it has to do with saying one thing and believing something else or acting otherwise. I have said exactly what I think and what I believe, and acted accordingly, and if it offends you, I can’t begin to tell you how little I care.

Quoting Moogey making a further fool of himself Was Mr. Spielbauer an "incompetent in his many years as a prosecuting or district attorney? Didn't the Department of Justice or Bar Association recognize this incompetency through those many years of law practice he had PRIOR to meeting up with the Dorean Group?

Congratulations Moog, you’re still batting 0 for all. Spielbauer was a PUBLIC DEFENDER, and apparently a not very good or ethical one. He got fired for lying and making misrepresentations to a judge, and then refusing to answer questions by his superiors. Hardly a sterling character or professional reference. He seems to have problems abiding by the canons of ethics, so gee, guess maybe he came by working for the dim duo easily.

Quoting Moogey making a further fool of himself Or is your statement just a blanket statement about the United States DOJ in the Northern District of California, generally speaking? Is the DOJ culpable too by allowing an incompetent to practice those many years and still EVEN TODAY to practice law?

Gee Moogs such a nice rant, pity you made it all up out of whole cloth without bothering get facts, but then that has been your problem all along, so just more Moogey blather.

Well Moogems, I actually go by independently posted and verifiable information. The disciplinary actions I’ve referenced, added to his being tied to dum and dummer, plus the other irregularities he has undoubtedly involved himself in will come home to roost eventually. When the current legal cases are settled, you can bet that he will be referred to the bar assn for disciplinary actions, and by then there will undoubtedly be more than enough to warrant disbarment. Lying to a judge as a court officer is probably grounds enough on its own. If you’re really interested you might want to check the disciplinary sites, but you know so much you should already have read them.

notorial dissent said...

Well Moogems, I have some bad news and some worse news for you. The bad news is that Todd, misplaced punctuation boy, Swanson is as good a fugitive as he a CPA, he’s now in Federal custody. The worse news is that the proposed jury instructions have been released, and the citations of law point by point dispose of the Dorean nonsense and leave it exposed for what it was, fraud. Dim and dimmer’s temporary address, is very shortly going to become permanent. Oh, and I forgot, I have even worse news, in that the case will probably be with the jury by the end of next week, if not sooner. I don’t think they will beat the Jackson jury, but you never know.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: "Spielbauer got fired for lying and making misrepresentations to a judge, and then refusing to answer questions by his superiors."
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And yet the System still didn't disbar him after that?

I think that is AMAZING don't you? If they didn't disbar him then, assuming your statements are factual, why believe they would do anything now?

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent: In the case of Spielbauer, I think you have proven that the System is a hypocrite, assuming your statements are factual.

If they TRULY believe that Spielbauer lied to a Judge and the actions were different than what they believed, & they didn't IMMEDIATELY disbar him FOR THOSE PREVIOUS ACTIONS, and they just fired him as a public defender, THAN HOW CAN YOU TRUST THE INTEGRITY AND CONSISTENCY OF THE BAR ASSOCIATION if they allowed him to practice law at a later date after getting fired for misrepresentation and contempt of court?

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: "When the current legal cases are settled, you can bet that he will be referred to the bar assn for disciplinary actions, and by then there will undoubtedly be more than enough to warrant disbarment."
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Oh really? Judge Bean shares a different point of view. He says the criminal case and the verdict won't affect the Civil case one bit. The Civil cases IN Judge Alsup's opinion, speaks about the Dorean process as a "scam". Well if Spielbauer represented a scam, he should have been disbarred long ago. Factually speaking HE WASN'T.

Are you saying that representing a scam, isn't enough to get disbarred? Of course you are.

Actually, what you are saying is that the end result of the criminal case will present some profound conclusions and revelations that will warrant some actions like disbarment of Spielbauer. Curiously speaking, anyone taking your bet?


Wonder why Judge Bean doesn't disagree with your assessments?

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: "Note to Kurt. Just who did you actually steal this from? You're not smart enough to have thought of any of it up yourself,"
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The "subrogation bond" idea in the presentment to the banks and having it backed by a letter of credit of 120 million or so & being further guaranteed by the assets of a 800 Billion dollar trust institution registered in Switzerland is UNIQUE.

I'm sure he didn't steal that idea from anyone. Notarial Dissent, can you prove otherwise? Of course you can't, so your conclusion of saying that Kurt can't can't come up with anything fresh & unique is also another one of your many lies.

neodemes said...

ROFLMAO

moogie, you are priceless.

There is no Swiss trust backing their worthless piece of trash.

Unique doesn't count for much.

Rave on!

notorial dissent said...

Moogs, all I said was that he got fired for lying to a judge, I suspect there were other things as well, the article didn’t say. It did say that he and the district were still litigating, which means that until the litigation is settled there probably won’t be any formal actions filed, or if they have been, they will be held in abeyance until the court cases are done. Beyond that I don’t know. Even if there has been a filing, it could take quite some time before they actually get around to doing anything. Unless he’s done something particularly heinous or public there won’t be any mad rush to do anything. Which isn’t to say there isn’t something in the works. There usually isn’t a public record until they get ready to take official action.

Your delusions not withstanding, the system will work in its own time and fashion, and not at your pleasure. Disbarment is a public process and follows the rules of due process, so there would be no immediate action in any case unless there were a court order.

Nice try Moogs, but your penchant for twisting things won’t make any difference. I said nothing about the criminal case having anything to do with Spielbauer other than his having testified about what he did for them with regard to the civil case, however, his involvement in that case could still result in his being reported to the bar, and they may well be waiting on the outcome of the criminal cases to determine what other charges to add against him, again, until they take formal action there won’t be a public record. I never made any statements of any kind about the end of the criminal case and Spielbauer other than that at that point further action may be taken depending on what comes out at the trial.

Since Judge Bean and I were talking about entirely different things your attempt to misconstrue is pointless, and typical.

Factually speaking HE HASN'T BEEN YET. Is what you mean. Patience Moogs patience, your turn will come as well.

The magic bond, letter of credit, yaddity yaddity yaddity is as old as the hills, and has whiskers on its whiskers. There was no letter of credit for the simple reason there was no one capable of issuing one, there is no 800 billion or million or gazillion in assets, and there is and was no Swiss trust company. The German name for the company, while it can be translated as “trust company” into English, is a false translation. The word Treuhand or Treuhandgesellschaft, which is the Swiss word, signifies a low level accounting financial management firm, not a bank, not a trust company as we use the term in English. It was an intentional attempt at misdirection. And since that was all Doug Cameron’s doing dim and dimmer can’t take any credit for that either.