Thursday, October 30, 2008

A Turn For The Worst (10-10-08)

It certainly appears that our economy has taken a turn for the worst. When in our lifetime has there been such a great transfer of wealth? Notice I didn’t say loss of wealth. Wealth is a constant. The equity of this world has not changed. Only the percentage used changes over time, but the same gold of Alexander the Great’s day is still here. When your IRA is depleted your loss is someone else’s gain. Why we feel the collected pain is because the greater number of losers in proportion to the fewer number of winners. The less hand to possess the wealth the less opportunity for others to expand. Project and businesses never get started because of the practical limitations of less eyes to review and less I’s to decide. Most of all is the brainwashing perceptions that blindfold us to walk us into the loser’s camp. Many of you have prayed as I that God bless this nation and it appears He’s doing the opposite. But ask yourself this. Are people more likely to turn to God when things are going great or going bad? Is there any hope of blessing without turning to God? I think not. God is answering your prayers. Now think on this. It appears God has not delivered you, you have lost your house, the promises I made to you appear to be false, and your net wealth has gone down. Now look at it from the spirit. God had you enter Dorean at the near cap of your houses value. If Kurt is God’s man and not a crook then he has preserved your liquidity at its height. If God is in this plan then God will return to you a dollar with four times the purchasing power. Let me give you this example. A client had a 200K house with a 100% mortgage. They have no equity. Through God’s provision their 100% mortgage becomes 100% equity or 200K cash. The house is now 100K which can now be purchased. The other 100K can be used to buy stocks at 60% the value of the value when you thought God ignored your prayers and brought you trouble. What if God did not bring you this trouble called Dorean. Then you would have most likely lost your home soon after by market conditions without a hope to become liquid in a cash is king market. Ask God if I am lying to you or if you have been totally blind to God’s brilliant plan to bring you through the refiners fire better than you entered. That’s the God I know and trust. So perhaps your turn for the better is being misinterpreted by your perception of the turn for the worst. Only God can enable you to see this because it is spiritually discerned. If you see it by faith here first you will discover the function of my strength and will see it with your natural eyes in short order. Do you know the scripture where Elijah saw the armies of the Lord but his servant saw the armies of man? This is what I’m speaking of. Now I want you all to see what I have seen all along. My prayer is as his “Lord open their eyes.” Once you see the truth of the provision then join me in Hosanna. Save Now! I think it is our turn. Amen?

99 comments:

Yetter said...

I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. (2 Timothy 4:7)
God's speed gentlemen.,

habakkuk said...

G-d Bless you Kurt:-)

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

mogel007 said...

An Open Letter to Barack Obama:


Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?

Are you legally qualified to hold the Office of President?


Dear Mr. Obama:

On October 24, 2008, a federal judge granted your request to dismiss a lawsuit by Citizen Philip Berg, who challenged your qualifications under the “Natural Born Citizen” clause of the U.S. Constitution to legally hold the office of President of the United States of America.

Mr. Berg presented factual evidence to the Court in support of his claim that you are either a citizen of your father’s native Kenya by birth, or that you became a citizen of Indonesia, relinquishing your prior citizenship when you moved there with your mother in 1967.

In your response to the lawsuit, you neither denied Mr. Berg’s claims nor submitted any evidence which would refute his assertions. Instead, you argued that the Court lacked the jurisdiction to determine the question of your legal eligibility because Mr. Berg lacked “standing.”

Astonishingly, the judge agreed, simply saying, “[Mr. Berg] would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary [sic] in living memory.”

Unfortunately, your response to the legal claim was clearly evasive and strikingly out of character, suggesting you may, in fact, lack a critical Constitutional qualification necessary to assume the Office of President: i.e., that you are not a “natural born” citizen of the United States or one who has relinquished his American citizenship.

Before you can exercise any of the powers of the United States, you must prove that you have fully satisfied each and every eligibility requirement that the Constitution mandates for any individual’s exercise of those powers.

Regardless of the tactics chosen in defending yourself against the Berg lawsuit, significant questions regarding your legal capacity to hold this nation’s highest office have been put forth publicly, and you have failed to directly refute them with documentary evidence that is routinely available to any bona fide, natural born U.S. Citizen.

As one who has ventured into the fray of public service of his own volition, seeking to possess the vast powers of the Office of President, it is not unreasonable to demand that you produce evidence of your citizenship to answer the questions and allay the concerns of the People. Indeed, as the one seeking the office, you are under a moral, legal, and fiduciary duty to proffer such evidence to establish your qualifications as explicitly mandated by Article II of the Constitution.

Should you proceed to assume the office of the President of the United States as anything but a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States that has not relinquished that citizenship, you would be inviting a national disaster, placing our Republic at great risk from untold consequences. For example:

· Neither the Electoral College on December 15, nor the House of Representatives on January 6 would be able to elect you, except as a poseur - a usurper;

· As a usurper, you would be unable to take the required “Oath or Affirmation” of office on January 20 without committing the crime of perjury or false swearing, for being ineligible for the Office of the President you cannot faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States;

· Your every act in the usurped Office of the President would be a criminal offense as an act under color of law that would subject the People to the deprivation of their constitutional rights, and entitling you to no obedience whatsoever from the People;

· as a usurper acting in the guise of the President you could not function as the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy and of the militia of the several states, as such forces would be under no legal obligation to remain obedient to you;

· No one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of your proclamations, executive orders or directives, as such orders would be legally VOID;

· Your appointment of Ambassadors and Judges to the Supreme Court would be VOID ab initio (i.e., from the beginning), no matter what subsequent actions the Senate might take as well as rendering any such acts by such appointed officials void as well;

· Congress would not be able to pass any new laws because they would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President, rendering all such legislation legally VOID;

· As a usurper, Congress would be unable to remove you from the Office of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos including a potential for armed conflicts within the General Government or among the States and the People to effect the removal of such a usurper.

As an attorney and sitting U.S. Senator, I’m sure you agree that our Constitution is the cornerstone of our system of governance. It is the very foundation of our system of Law and Order – indeed, it is the supreme law of the land. I’m sure you also agree that its precise language was no accident and cannot be ignored if Individual, unalienable, natural Rights, Freedoms and Liberties are to be protected and preserved.

As our next potential President, you have a high-order obligation to the Constitution (and to those who have fought and died for our Freedom) that extends far beyond that of securing a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. No matter your promises of change and prosperity, your heartfelt intent or the widespread support you have garnered in seeking the highest Office of the Land, the integrity of the Republic and Rule of Law cannot, -- must not -- be put at risk, by allowing a constitutionally unqualified person to sit, as a usurper, in the Office of the President.

No matter the level of practical difficulty, embarrassment or disruption of the nation’s business, we must -- above all -- honor and protect the Constitution and the divine, unalienable, Individual Rights it guarantees, including the Right to a President who is a natural born citizen of the United States of America that has not relinquished his American citizenship. Our nation has endured similar disruptions in the past, and will weather this crisis as well. Indeed, it is both yours and the People’s mutual respect for, and commitment to, the Constitution and Rule of Law that insures the perpetuation of Liberty.

As a long time defender of my state and federal Constitutions, and in consideration of the lack of sufficient evidence needed to establish your credentials as President, I am compelled to lodge this Petition for Redress of Grievances and public challenge to you.

Make no mistake: This issue IS a Constitutional crisis. Although it will not be easy for you, your family or our Republic, you have it within your ability to halt this escalating crisis by either producing the certified documents establishing beyond question your qualifications to hold the Office of President, or by immediately withdrawing yourself from the Electoral College process.

With due respect, I hereby request that you deliver the following documents to Mr. Berg and myself at the National Press Club in Washington, DC at noon on Monday, November 17, 2008:

(a) a certified copy of your “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names
Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham
and Barry Dunham;
(c) a certified copy of your Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy of your Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of your admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia
University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing your name
from Barry Soetoro.

In the alternative, in defense of the Constitution, and in honor of the Republic and that for which it stands, please announce before such time your withdrawal from the 2008 Presidential election process.

“In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”
Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 469-471.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.

Sincerely,


Robert L. Schulz,
Founder and Chairman, We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc.

dr. ira gilac said...

ATTENTION!


E-GOLD HAS JUST FROZEN YOUR ACCOUNT BY ORDER OF THE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL PURSUANT TO U.S.C. 666 §911 OF THE PATRIOT ANTI TERROR ACT.

IN ORDER TO UNFREEZE YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE FURNISH E-GOLD WITH THE FOLLOWING:



(a) a certified copy of your “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names
Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham
and Barry Dunham;
(c) a certified copy of your Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy of your Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of your admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia
University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing your name
from Barry Soetoro.


THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION


IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADDRESS THEM TO:

ADMIN@SECURE.E-GOLD.COM

dr. ira gilac said...

bout all yo can say is:


LOLOLOLL!!!!

dr. ira gilac said...

that about all da info dat it takes once egole froze yo accunt.....


an even afta all dat, yo nedd a singed affidavid from god hisself to get yo accunt unfrozed.

dr. ira gilac said...

that about all da info dat it takes once egole froze yo accunt.....


an even afta all dat, yo nedd a singed affidavid from god hisself to get yo accunt unfrozed.







POOPS!!!!


almose foogut....yo will also need to submit a specialmint of yo dung fo anal eyes to examine to make sho dat its da reel yo ho want to unfroze yo accunt.

dr. ira gilac said...

send yo dung fo anal eyes to c/o jug beans


he da best at it

sumtimes he make missed stakes but he will anal eyes it rite 'in da end'

dr. ira gilac said...

cood dis hoppens here in da untied stats????


probly...da crimnal entaprise govt. just as eevil here.







Poison Planet.com


POLICE TO "BEAT SHIT OUT OF PROTESTANTS"

Thursday, October 30, 2008

Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga has offered a solution to the Italian government in dealing with widespread demonstrations by students and teachers over a cut in state funding of education - use agent provocateurs to start riots and then have the police “beat the shit out of the protesters”.

Cossiga, former Italian President, Prime Minister, Minister of the Interior, and one of the founders of the Operation GLADIO covert intelligence unit, encouraged Silvio Berlusconi and current Minister of the Interior Robert Maroni to “do what I did when I was Minister of the Interior,” namely infiltrate what so far have been relatively peaceful demonstrations, radicalize them, start riots, then engender public support for a heavy-handed police response.

Cossiga’s full statement translated reads as follows.

“Maroni should do what I did when I was Minister of the Interior. University students? Let them do what they want. Withdraw the police from streets and universities, infiltrate the movement with provoking agents ready for anything ["agenti provocatori" is the Italian term] and let them devastate shops, put fire to the cars and put cities to the sword for ten days.

Then, strengthen by people’s support, the sound of the sirens from ambulances will have to overwhelm that from the police and carabinieri [italian military police]. Law enforcement officers should pitilessly beat the shit out of protesters and send them all to the hospital. They should not arrest them since the courts would free them immediately, but they should beat them savagely, and they should beat savagely as well those teachers that incites them: not old professors, just the young school teachers.”

Cossiga is essentially describing the problem-reaction-solution dialectic that he exploited when he was in government. Under the banner of Operation GLADIO, which was unveiled after parliamentary investigations in Italy, Switzerland and Belgium, NATO sponsored secret armies committed acts of violence and terrorism and blamed the attacks on left-wing political movements, allowing far-right governments to seize power in numerous European countries.

“You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game,” right-wing terrorist and GLADIO agent Vincezo Vinciguerra explained the so-called “strategy of tension” in sworn testimony.

“The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings which remain unpunished, because the state cannot convict itself or declare itself responsible for what happened.”

GLADIO-orchestrated false flag terror attacks, such as the Bologna train bombing in 1980 which killed 85 people, were revealed during the Italian parliamentary investigation as having been overseen by elements of the U.S. intelligence apparatus. At the very least, U.S. intelligence sat on prior knowledge of bombings and allowed them to go ahead.

Cossiga’s call to infiltrate protest groups and provocateur violence, giving the police public backing to “beat the shit” out of them, is a false flag tactic that has been employed numerous times during major protest events around the world.

Indeed, the scenario Cossiga is describing is exactly what happened at the violent 2001 Genoa G8 summit, during which Italian police planted bombs in headquarters being used by protest groups as an excuse to conduct raids and “beat the shit” out of peaceful demonstrators.

A similar tactic was also attempted during last year’s SPP summit protest in Quebec Canada. Canadian police were caught dressed up as rock-wielding anarchists intent on causing riots. Peaceful protesters identified the agent provocateurs and the police later had to admit the fact despite going to the lengths of publicly staging the arrests of their own officers.

Last year, Cossiga drew on his first-hand personal experience in conducting false flag terror operations to declare that 9/11 was an inside job and that this fact was “common knowledge” amongst global intelligence agencies.

www.prisonplanet.com/ex-italian-president-provocateur-riots-then-beat-the-shit-out-of-protesters.html

dr. ira gilac said...

Oct. 29, 2008

Gun sales are on a sharp rise in Florida on fear that an Obama presidency will take away this right.

TO VIEW THIS VIDEO CLICK ON:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71Do4Fj8XU

judge allslop said...

WARNING
If you have purchased gold or silver ETF'S.All you have recieved is a piece of paper. How strong do you think paper promises are in a crisis?.Zero,zip,nadda. The criminals (JP MORGAN ,GOLMAN SACHS ETC)then turn around and use your stash to collateralize their naked short operations to furthur damage your investment.Buy and retain physical.

dr. ira gilac said...

U.S. Reworking IndyMac Mortgages By the Thousands

Saturday, November 1, 2008;

PASADENA, Calif. -- Inside the stone-and-glass headquarters of IndyMac Federal Bank, regulators are carrying out an experiment that could change the course of the financial crisis by tackling the home foreclosures that are at its root.

With the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. at the helm of IndyMac, which was seized in July after it became one of the country's largest bank failures, regulators are attempting to create a model for reworking mortgages and rescuing homeowners.

A few major banks are also trying to tackle the home foreclosure problem, a major impediment to the nation's economic recovery. J.P. Morgan Chase yesterday said it will begin modifying mortgages under a program that could keep 400,000 families in their homes. Bank of America plans to soon start modifying an estimated 400,000 loans held by its newly acquired Countrywide Financial.

But so far, private efforts have moved slowly. So attention is focused on the work of the FDIC. Its chairman, Sheila C. Bair, has been a fierce advocate of directing more assistance to homeowners instead of just to financial firms. Members of Congress have also pushed the Bush administration to help homeowners. The FDIC and Treasury Department are negotiating a plan to have the government guarantee mortgages of millions of distressed homeowners if lenders agree to significant loan modifications.

The IndyMac initiative is seen as a way to test some aggressive methods for breaking through traditional barriers to loan modification. For instance, regulators are using a formula -- rather than individually scrutinizing each borrower -- to try to decide who should and should not be saved from foreclosure. In addition, regulators have won the cooperation of a major Wall Street firm in their mortgage modification effort, something critical to their success.

But the initiative is also uncovering unexpectedly tough challenges, among them the frustration of having a complicated mix of loans in the bank's portfolio, borrowers who are difficult to reach and a number of homeowners whom regulators cannot legally help.

Jeff Lehman is one of the FDIC's success stories. Lehman, a fur retailer, fell behind in his payments earlier this year after 20 years in his West Hollywood condominium. His initial attempts to modify his loan through IndyMac were rebuffed.

But after the FDIC took over the bank, Lehman said, he received a letter proposing a more-than-$300 drop in his monthly payments. "This was definitely better than losing the place," he said.

About a dozen FDIC employees and a group of contractors have set up operations on four floors of IndyMac's headquarters, working next to the remaining IndyMac employees. With more than 7,000 employees laid off in the past year, many offices and desks are empty.

IndyMac's massive portfolio contains more than 700,000 loans, most of which are for homes in the hardest-hit parts of the country, including Southern California and Florida. More than 50 percent are adjustable-rate mortgages, with many homeowners facing an increase in monthly payments that could push them into delinquency.

The FDIC is skipping the traditional but time-consuming approach of making customized modifications to individual mortgages. Instead, regulators are plugging homeowners' incomes into a formula to determine how much they can afford to pay -- usually 38 percent of their gross monthly income. Regulators first try to reach that payment level by lowering the interest rate. If that is insufficient, they then extend the term of the loan to 40 years. If that also is insufficient, homeowners might pay interest on only a portion of the principal.

"Is it perfect? No. Is it effective? Yes," said Mike Krimminger, special policy adviser to the FDIC, who was dispatched to California to head the program he helped design. "Streamlining makes a big difference in being able to apply this to a lot of mortgages."

IndyMac has three main types of loans in its portfolio. Some are mortgages it owns. Others are loans it has managed for other lenders, such as Lehman Brothers. Still others are loans that had been bundled into pools, known as mortgage-backed securities, governed by agreements or rules that dictate what if any changes can be made to their terms.

The FDIC can easily rework the loans IndyMac owns.

Regulators achieved a breakthrough with the second type after persuading Lehman Brothers, the investment bank under bankruptcy proceedings, earlier this month to allow its 38,000 loans in IndyMac's portfolio to be included in the modification program. FDIC officials are now hoping to use Lehman's example to persuade others to sign on. The key, agency officials said, will be convincing lenders that a modified loan, even with a reduced interest rate, will be more profitable than a foreclosure.

The third category, securitized pools, can be even more complicated because, often, dozens of investors own portions of the pool. Revisions to the contracts that establish what kinds of changes can be made to mortgages must be approved by all the investors. Sometimes those contracts can forbid modification of more than a small portion of the loans in the pool.

Lenders that want to modify loans in mortgage pools have said they have been hamstrung because they fear that investors would sue them for damaging their investment.

The FDIC said IndyMac's portfolio allows modifications. So regulators have bypassed the time-consuming process of asking each investor for permission or changing the contracts.

But the contracts did have one restriction that challenged the FDIC and that it could not get around legally. They required that a homeowner be seriously delinquent before a loan could be modified. When the FDIC's Krimminger saw that, he said, he was "disturbed and bothered."

The agreements meant that hundreds of thousands of homeowners in IndyMac's portfolio facing interest rate increases on risky loans could not be covered by the program. "I wish I could say that we could do something to help people who are current but have a problem coming up, but it's difficult to do under our agreements," Krimminger said. "There is nothing worse than having somebody call and say, 'I'm current, but I think I'm going to have a problem here soon,' but unfortunately we can't do anything."

In addition, about 25 percent of the delinquent homeowners vetted by the FDIC's formula did not qualify. In many of those cases, even after the FDIC's adjustments to interest rate and principal, the homeowners could not afford the monthly payments.

Another problem is getting homeowners to respond to offers of help. The FDIC mailed 35,000 unsolicited modification invitations. About half of those included a detailed estimate of how much the program could save the homeowner. These offers, which are based on financial information about the borrowers, had a response rate above 70 percent.

But the FDIC is struggling to reach about 18,000 other homeowners for whom the agency does not have salary information. The FDIC sent those homeowners a letter asking that they call a customer-service line to discuss a modification. But only about 15 percent of those homeowners have responded.

Last week, the FDIC began hiring nonprofit groups to help it reach this population. The agency will pay the housing counseling agencies $150 if the homeowner gets in contact with IndyMac and $350 more if the modification is successful. And the FDIC is preparing another outreach program, including new solicitations that note that the average modification includes a savings of about $380 a month.

Even after homeowners receive loan modifications, there is still a considerable risk they will default. In the past, about 40 percent of homeowners were delinquent again within a year of receiving a traditional loan modification, according to a recent Credit Suisse report. And some industry officials warn that the proportion could jump if the economic downturn deepens, throwing more people out of work.

Lenders say that the FDIC effort has pointed out some possible solutions but also has highlighted problems. "The FDIC has good intentions, and they are probably demonstrating things that can be done better," said Bob Davis, an executive vice president with the American Bankers Association. "But they are also demonstrating there is no silver bullet."

The industry has pointed to its Hope Now effort, an alliance of lenders established by the Treasury Department last year. The group says it has helped about 2.5 million homeowners, but nonprofit advocacy groups say the assistance won't necessarily keep participants out of foreclosure over the long term.

Indeed, the FDIC effort also does not go as far as some housing advocacy groups would like. The program defers but does not forgive principal for homeowners who owe more than their house is worth. Regulators have in many cases made the modifications temporary rather than permanent. For instance, a loan reduced to a 3 percent interest rate will begin to creep back up after five years to the survey rate set by Freddie Mac -- currently about 6 percent.

In some cases, the FDIC effort is less aggressive than Bair advocated earlier. For example, a year ago, she said lenders should freeze the interest rate for certain subprime loans with adjustable rates. But faced with such a wide variety of loans at IndyMac, regulators determined that doing so would be impractical.

The American Securitization Forum, which represents many lenders and investors, is studying the IndyMac experiment. "As the housing market continues to experience severe stress, we are discussing with our members the approach taken by the FDIC and others as we consider additional industry initiatives to enhance the loss-mitigation process," Tom Deutsch, the group's deputy executive director, said in a statement.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/31/AR2008103104001_pf.html

dr. ira gilac said...

did anynone notice in da abuv:



"For instance, regulators are using a formula -- rather than individually scrutinizing each borrower -- to try to decide who should and should not be saved from foreclosure.









so they gonna 'decide' ho stay an ho gos????


it sound like ethic clensing to me???


poops...i meen 'ethnic clensing'....cores they 'ethics' alreddy been 'clensed' a lawn time ago.....

dr. ira gilac said...

save da good peepls and let da bad nones bee foclose on.

maybe sum of dem is dose evil bakers demselfs....

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

BigO said...

BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:03 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:03 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:04 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:05 PM


BigO said...
TO GOD BE THE GLORY ,

A QUESTION FOR THE NAY-SAYERS

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US; WHAT DOES THESE GUYS HAVE TO GAIN BY STRINGING ON THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM (ON THIER OWN FREE WILL) OVER THREE YEARS AGO PAID WHAT EVER THEY PAID (THAT MONEY IS GONE), AGAIN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN BY KEEPING A SO CALLED SCAM GOING???????

IF THIS WERE A SCAM, THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED!!!!! THEY COULD JUST DISAPPEAR WITH THERE MONEY, WHY KEEP THE SCAM GOING?????

DOES SOMEONE WANT TO TRY AND SPLAIN THAT?, I MEAN REALLY EXPLAIN IT?!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS YOU SCOTT AND KURT AND THOSE OF YOU WORKING BEHIND IN THE CUTS.

HEY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WILL TO FIGHT"?????? IF YOUR OUT THERE "WHAT UP DUDE"

"THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURETH TO THE END"

TO THE GOOD FIGHT

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

12:04 AM

11:05 PM

BigO said...

OOOOOPPPPSSSSS!!!!


"DIIID I DOOO THAAAT"!!!!!!!

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WILLING TO TAKE A STAB AT ANSWERING MY QUESTION, ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THIS MORTGAGE BLOG FOR YOUR OWN AGENDA? I THINK THER IS ALREADY A BLOG WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE OTHER TOPICS!!!

THIS BLOG WAS SET-UP TO DISCUSS MORTGAGE FRAUD, SO PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION...

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP !!!!!!

Yetter said...

BIGO
Take a chill pill,it matters not what the committe of THEY thinks. Its what we know thats important.

BigO said...

I know I was just having fun, God bless you for your concern though. There are some exciting times coming

dr. ira gilac said...

STOP USING FEDERAL REVERSE NOTES




A group of State Representatives in New Hampshire, state motto: "Live Free Or Die," have introduced a voluntary, parallel Gold/Silver money bill for the Granite State. Lead by Rep. Henry McElroy and co-sponsored by David Buhlman and Dan Itse, this Sound Money Bill would allow the state of New Hampshire to include the use of Gold/Silver U.S. minted coins (or their digital equivalent) to be used in daily transactions for payables/receivables between it (the state) and the inhabitants and businesses in New Hampshire. It would be totally voluntary. Federal Reserve Notes could still be used or a combination of Gold/Silver U.S. minted coins or a total transaction in Gold/Silver U.S. minted coins (or their digital equivalent) !

There are NO restrictions or laws by the Federal Government that prevent ANY state from using Gold/Silver U.S. minted coins ! This bill is NOT radical...it simply shows that the state of New Hampshire conforms to the U.S. Constitution and wants to set an example of Constitutional conformity as well as offering a "Sound Money" alternative to its inhabitants and businesses!

Restoring the Gold Standard, what can you do?

While we are waiting for NESARA to be announced or for the Knights Templar riding down on a fiery chariot from the heavens raining Gold coins like the deluge from the Great Flood. There are a few practical steps that WE the American people can take to reign in the terror of the international bankers. more...

SOME COMMON QUESTIONS / OBJECTIONS ANSWERED

1. Americans have been using Federal Reserve Notes for some ninety plus years —so why stop now ?

a. The Federal Reserve Notes Americans use today are not the same, economically or legally, as the Federal Reserve Notes used in previous decades.

Federal Reserve Notes have gone through a process of deterioration. From 1913 to 1933, they were directly redeemable in United States gold coin; and the banks were required to maintain a reserve of gold equal to forty percent of their outstanding notes. Redeemability of Federal Reserve Notes in gold for American citizens was terminated in 1933; but the notes remained indirectly redeemable in silver from 1933 until 1968. Redeemability of Federal Reserve Notes for foreigners was terminated in 1971. So, today, Federal Reserve Notes are irredeemable in gold or silver. See Title 31, United States Code, Section 5118(b, c). Thus, the present situation is radically different from what it was prior to 1968 or 1971.

Furthermore, the supply of Federal Reserve Notes (and of bank deposits payable in those notes) has greatly expanded since the 1950s, seriously eroding the purchasing power of all United States paper currency and base-metallic (“clad”) coinage. Indeed, from 1985 to 2000, while the production of material goods in the United States increased by 50%, the money supply increased by 300%.

In sum, today the purchasing power of Federal Reserve Notes has no anchor in a valuable monetary commodity (silver or gold); and the policy of the Federal Reserve System is to increase the supply of those notes (and related bank deposits), thereby further sinking the notes’ real value.

b. The proposed legislation does not stop—or in any way inhibit—the use of Federal Reserve Notes or base-metallic coin. It simply enables citizens of New Hampshire to use United States silver and gold coin in preference to other media of exchange in their monetary transactions with the State, if they choose to do so.

Both before and after the Federal Reserve System was created in 1913, the United States minted silver and gold coins. Entirely base-metallic “clad” coinage began to be minted only in 1970. So, today, Congress has authorized a multiform monetary system, consisting of Federal Reserve Notes irredeemable in silver or gold [see 12 U.S.C. § 411 and 31 U.S.C. § 5118(b)], base-metallic coin [see 31 U.S.C. § 5112(a)(1-6)], silver coins [see 31 U.S.C. 5112(e)], and gold coins [31 U.S.C. § 5112(a)(7-10)], all of which are equally “legal tender” [see 31 U.S.C. §§ 5103 and 5112(h)], and any of which any individual may use to the exclusion of the others [see 31 U.S.C. § 5118(d)(2)].

Under the proposed legislation, those citizens of New Hampshire who prefer to use irredeemable Federal Reserve Notes and base-metallic coinage may continue to do so. But they will make this choice intelligently, knowing of their option to use silver and gold coin instead.

2. Why should New Hampshire question what the national government is doing with regard to monetary policy ?

New Hampshire is not questioning, but is actually implementing, Congressional monetary policy. As explained in No. 1, above, Congress has authorized several types of money as official media of exchange, but has not given a special position or preference to any. Through the proposed legislation, New Hampshire will enable its citizens to choose among these various media of exchange, and will facilitate their choices.

To fulfill its duty to protect its citizens’ economic welfare, New Hampshire needs to concern itself with the instability of the present monetary and banking regimes. See No. 4, below. Obviously, Congress, too, is concerned with this problem—or it would not have authorized the present multiform monetary system. See No. 1, above.The preceding is from "SOME COMMON QUESTIONS / OBJECTIONS ANSWERED" and referred to as "20 Questions About The Sound Money Bill." To read the whole article just go to the "Articles" section of our website. The questions were posed by inhabitants upon hearing that the Sound Money Bill was being considered in New Hampshire. They were answered by Dr. Edwin Vieira, the author and crafter of the revised bill (HB 1342). We thank him for his hard work and his expertise in this important arena. Dr. Vieira is still involved and will be further revising the bill as it evolves and is, again, introduced in the 2004/2005 legislative session in New Hampshire.

We encourage you to learn about "Sound Money" and to persuade your state Representative and Senator to pass this much needed bill in the next session ! We also encourage those inhabitants in the other 49 states to make their state Representatives and Senators aware of New Hampshire's intentions and to also consider passage of a similar bill in their states! Thank you!

The growing use of Real money in America

www.goldmoneybill.org/

dr. ira gilac said...

Federal Reserve Notes could still be used or a combination of.....







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Posted Nov. 2, 2008


Americans Murdering Their Judges,
and the US Crisis of Judicial Corruption

by Dr Les Sachs (Dr Leslie Sachs)

In the headlines are the appalling news stories of Americans carrying out murderous attacks on judges and their families. In a matter of days, one judge was shot and killed in his own courtroom, while another judge had family members brutally murdered in their home.

These news stories are, however, related to another news story, which is the most taboo subject of the American media - the expanding crisis of corruption among American judges and lawyers. At question is whether the deepening despair of Americans about their own legal system, is fueling some of these violent attacks on judges.

Much is written now about how America's economy is resembling that of a banana republic, given how America is sunk in preposterous debt, and how the US dollar currency is sinking toward a possible collapse in the near future.

But there is another way that America is also like a banana republic, in that its legal system - contrary to its Hollywood image - has become a sinkwell of secret proceedings, the jailing of the innocent, and political misconduct; and how it is sullied with documented corruption, fake trials and court fraud.

These facts are not generally understood, because of how judicial corruption is the most un-reported news story in the American landscape. It is the category of news story which America's newspapers and media are most afraid to report, even when clear proof is in their hands.

In America right now, judges - and lawyers who are protected by judges - can commit felony crimes in broad delight, leave the proof lying around, and yet avoid being prosecuted or even having their crimes be reported by the media. The people who work in the media see a lot of material on court misconduct, and yet they know this is the story of which they dare not speak. The lack of media coverage, in turn, encourages more judicial corruption, leaving millions of Americans in anger and despair.

Confronting the secrets of US judicial corruption, is a key to understanding America's whole social crisis, and its role in the world right now. Here are some elements of this situation that you won't see in run-of-the-mill news reports:

The innocent in USA courts: imprisoned, sentenced to death, losing all they have

The key statistic to understanding America, is that it has over 2.2 million prisoners (!) out of about 300 million people. This is 25 per cent of all the prisoners, anywhere, in the entire world. By comparison, the most populous nation, China, with about 1.3 billion people, only has a few hundred thousand prisoners, despite being denounced by the USA as a "repressive" country.

1 out of every 45 working-age males (that is, not counting children or the elderly) is BEHIND BARS in the United States. With working-age black males, the figures are about 1 out of 20. This is the stuff of revolution.

With so many Americans in jail right now, and many more having been to jail or on the way, the USA now has the world's biggest gulag. The United States of America is a giant machine for jailing people and making them afraid. With 2.2 million prisoners, America can be very casual about who it throws into prison. Estimates are that at least 5 per cent, or over 100,000 of these prisoners, are completely innocent. This is well shown by the fact that over 100 of the smaller group of prisoners who have recently been on death row in America - actually sentenced to be executed - have recently been freed, innocent of the crime for which they were convicted.

As it is so easy to railroad innocent people in America on capital murder charges, which have mandatory appeals, it is even easier to railroad people on lesser criminal charges, or in malicious lawsuits where victims lose all their money and property.

With judges and lawyers making so many mistakes, sending so many innocent people to prison, and wrecking so many lives with lawsuits, the drive to cover-up for judicial mistakes becomes obsessive. The US legal system cannot function without a cover-up. But a cover-up of judicial misconduct, becomes an invitation for corruption and bribery and more misconduct, and this vicious cycle keeps escalating.

In America's unique political landscape, the lawyers and judges have supreme power, both over themselves and over the political process. With the American theory of the "supreme" judiciary that is supposedly "independent" of politics, the recipe is there for a kind of "Praetorian Guard" mentality like in ancient Rome. In imperial Rome, the small army of the "Praetorian Guard" theoretically protected the emperor. But as the Praetorian Guard realized its power, they were able to become a law unto themselves, controlling the empire, even dictating to the emperor, and covering up for any of their own misdeeds.

This is the role of the judges in America right now. America needs its judges to keep order over its own far-flung empire. America's corporate rulers fear to expose the misconduct of judges, lest this empire start unraveling.

Since the judges are "supreme" in America, if people realise the judges are crooked, a revolution would be at hand.

US Judges as Goons for the Big Corporations

In United States regime, most major aspects of public life are now under the control of the US-based multi-national corporations, who have effectively and openly bought and paid for everything in the American "system":

- The corporations own most US politicians, including both of the two tweedledee-tweedledum "political parties", given that both the "Democrat" and "Republican" parties, and nearly all the politicians, get their funding from the same US corporate interests, despite a little bit of pretending to be different;

- The corporations own all the major US media companies, who control what "news" most people see and read;

- The corporations effectively control most of the well-known "non-profit organisations", who also depend on the large corporate or corporate-backed "donations" for their existence and income;

- The corporations own the US elections, determining who is allowed by the media to be a "major candidate", and the corporations even manufacture the easily-hijackable "voting machines" that "count the votes" for people

- And the corporations, above all, own the US lawyers and judges, via the corporate money and bribes that flow in the billions of dollars through US law firms, which is why they rarely lose cases among the "pro-business" US judges.

The judges enforce the "law", which in the United States means the Law of the Big Corporations. They win, the little guy (or girl) loses. That's what judges and lawyers call "The Game".

In exchange for controlling things for the benefit of the big corporations, US judges and lawyers are allowed to act like perverts with regard to the average person. They can lie, rob, cheat, steal, kill and destroy any mere average person or US citizen - that is what the judges and lawyers get, as their "reward" for running things for the benefit of the really rich people who are big shareholders in the big corporations.

America needs the myth of the "rule of law", the power of the judges, to keep control of the political situation. But the trade-off is that the judges have become a law unto themselves, and the judges and lawyers in America have built a machine that cannot be reversed by any power visible on the horizon, except some kind of revolution.


US Media Control Hiding the Judges' Crimes

The one power that the judges in America do worry about, is that of news media and publicity, either of the independent kind or from outside the United States. Recently, the American Supreme Court judges decided in a close vote, to stop putting children to death, admitting they were influenced by world public opinion and international condemnation of this practice.

The news media in America - mostly owned by large corporations who own everything else - has a guilty conscience about all the evidence of judicial misconduct that flows regularly through their offices. The media do not report or investigate most of these stories, even when conclusive proof is plopped in their lap.

This is partly out of fear of revenge by the government and the judges, and partly out of a sense of a twisted theory of "patriotic duty". These media employees think that it is better to hide the dirty linen of the judges and courts, so as not to "upset the public" and "destabilise society". In other words, they know that the truth about the crooked US judges, is the stuff of revolution.

But really, the situation is that the big media in the United States, is owned by the same big corporations who own the politicians and government, the same big corporations who pay the big law firms that bribe the judges so that the big companies almost always win their cases.

Most big corporations find themselves using American courts extensively, including the media companies. If any media company or US organisation were to independently "go after" some corrupt judges, and speak about judicial corruption, the fear is that the media company might well find itself being destroyed by the judges, as billions of dollars worth of lawsuits suddenly were "decided" against the corporation.

You may not believe this yet, but the fact is that the US judges operate like criminal gangs. They get together and pick a target, and they can decide to destroy that target if they feel it is a threat, either to themselves or to their paymasters at the big corporations.

Such terrors lurk in the back of the mind of independent and progressive journalists, perhaps even more than among the big corporate media. In America you never know whether you might find yourself arrested or sued on some trumped-up charge or accusation, if you dare to criticise the US legal system. US journalists have been shot dead in the street, after daring to write a critical article about the judges. Just "coincidence", perhaps.

Exposing a dishonest judge in America, can put you on a "black list" where no lawyer will protect you, even if you have lots of money to spend. Experience shows, over and over again, that people in the US who try to fight judicial corruption simply cannot find lawyers for themselves, even if they have money - and even though many US lawyers are desperately unemployed and eager for money!

It is still (somewhat) accepted in the US, that journalists can criticize the President and the administrative branches of government, or complain about legislators. It is part of the function of politicians, like the President, to "take some political heat" up front, while the corporations run things behind the scenes.

However, it has become extremely taboo to say much about dishonest judges, even in the face of ice cold proof that judges are committing crimes. You have proof of crimes by judges? Almost no journalist in the United States wants to talk with you. - That is the true reality of American life.

Even though the news media in the USA are not owned by the government, they are not "independent" - far from it. The power of the judges extends to both direct and indirect control of media criticism.

Beyond the fear, there is also a feeling among USA media and lawyers and the government, that drastic and terrible calamities would occur if judicial corruption were really investigated and exposed. As one US lawyer said, "If the American people found out how crooked the judges really are, the whole house of cards will start to crumble."

People feel that faith in the courts - the Hollywood movie version of American "justice" - is what is holding the USA together. The fear is this: If the American people start thinking that the courts are rigged, and that huge amounts of people in jail are innocent, then social chaos will be on the horizon, and America will unravel in a mass political revolution.

So the US media, corrupted by corporate ownership, or afraid itself of revenge, pretends it is doing a kind of civic duty, to limit coverage of judicial corruption, to those few cases where the government itself has already decided to prosecute some wayward judge or lawyer.

Even in cases where US judges engage in absolutely blatant, open and publicly perverted misbehaviour - like the US judge who used a penis-pump on himself in his courtroom (quite true story) - the misbehaviour and crimes usually go on openly for several years, until the rogue judge finally offends some rich or politically powerful person, and the system finally slowsly takes action.

America's FBI and Department of Justice collect files on judicial corruption like they collect files on everything else, but they hold back from acting, even in cases where they have clear enough evidence to bring an indictment in minutes. The law enforcement agencies in America blow with the political winds, and in the absence of media attention, they will cover up for judges, whose help they require when they need to win convictions on flimsy evidence. The judges who take bribes are gladly eager to help law enforcement railroad and convict innocent people. The mutual back-scratching of cops and judges is routine.

In the meantime, the anguish of millions of Americans is increasing: The 2.2 million prisoners and their families and loved ones; all those whose rights have been diminished, or their fortunes ruined; the increasing number of people forced to flee the USA to live in freedom and peace; all those living in fear in America, worried that they might be the next victim of the unfair American legal system. The frustration of many people with American courts is building, a huge but hidden story in American life.

Secrecy, gag orders, and the court files you will never see

America is increasingly a closed society, with much of its legal activity carried on in secret. And I'm not only talking about the secret detention of so many hundreds of detainees at overseas locations. Even in America's domestic legal system, much of the important legal activity is secret and hidden.

The illusion is that America is an "open" society, because there are 24 hour a day "news" channels on television, and because there are dozens of reporters and cameras outside the courthouses that are holding public-circus trials of a Martha Stewart or Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. But the gritty day-to-day reality of life in American courts, is that much of what really goes on, is secret, hidden, un-published, under gag order or a judge's ban on freedom of speech, or simply un-reported by the news media, even though the media knows it has something important which the American people would love to hear.

Much more than people realize, news of American court proceedings is blocked by gag orders, embargoed documents, and outright blatant and illegal bans on freedom of speech. Though there are always some supposed higher purposes in these gag orders, a basic function of such gag orders is to hide the whole dirty process of how judges and lawyers do their work. As judges and lawyers run the show, they are eager to use their powers to make sure that a lot of what they do is known only to themselves.

The biggest category of judicial secrecy, is the nationwide American curtain that hides complaints of misconduct about judges and lawyers. Across the US, tens of thousands of complaints have been filed about misconduct by lawyers and judges. You can find many of them on the internet.

While some of these complaints are frivolous, and many of them are certainly emotional, a lot of these complaints are well-documented or have conclusive proof attached. But nearly all of these tens of thousands of complaints are non-published and secret, and almost nothing is done to act on these complaints, regardless of how valid or how well proven.

America's secret files of judicial and lawyer misconduct, are a gold mine of information on the real dirty workings of the American legal system. But alas, complaints about judges and lawyers are filed with - you guessed it - other judges and lawyers. These complaints are read and passed around very eagerly, as I have found by calling up judges' secretaries. I have tracked complaints all the way up to the Supreme Court building and the Supreme Court "judicial ethics" panel that was appointed in 2004 by USA Chief Justice Rehnquist.

The judges read the complaints about their fellow judges, they likely laugh and joke with each other about the people they have harmed, and perhaps quietly advise each other to behave less openly like lunatics in the future. But what the judges almost never do, is respond in any way to the complaint. They don't answer, and they don't remedy the situation. They merely make some mental notes in case there is some publicity down the road.

If there's no publicity, the judges feel they are home free. The same goes with complaints about American lawyers to the local Bar which "regulates" lawyers, which typically just covers up for lawyer misconduct. Unless a judge is already mad at the lawyer, the local Bar will usually whitewash your complaints about a lawyer, even if you have written proof of a lawyer committing a felony crime.

People are surprised to learn that American judges often don't respond to some legal filings and complaints, and sometimes even to formal appeals. If you have expensive lawyers, and have political connections they will indeed probably answer. But otherwise, silence is common. Poor people in America have been strapped to a table and put to death, while an appeal languished unanswered by the judges.

Fearful lawyers and fake trials

A few celebrity trials do, indeed, dominate the American news, with all sorts of tiny details gaining the headlines, like Michael Jackson said to be coming to court in his pyjamas. But hidden beyond the "detailed analysis" of the celebrity circus trials, are highly significant and heartbreaking stories of real trials, whose details you never learn. You don't find out how someone's human rights were taken away, or how someone was railroaded on false charges, while media focuses on the latest "scoop" of some public circus legal proceeding.

Americans who have not endured a court battle, have an entirely misleading sense of the legal system from two sources: (a) the celebrity circus trials and (b) fictional television shows and Hollywood movies. Yet the reality for most Americans in court, especially the poor and minorities, is something sadly different, far more sleazy and awful and sinister.

A key factor in life in America now, is the widespread moral collapse of the American legal profession. America has about a million law school graduates, the most enormous gang of lawyers in the world. And 'gang ' is the right word.

Though a core group of lawyers are wealthy, from the fees supplied by big corporations or from a few big lawsuits; many other lawyers are unemployed, desperate for work. American lawyers, as a whole, are in fear of rocking the boat or challenging the political system, lest they be cast out and put among the unemployed.

US lawyers who challenge the government or try to expose corruption, will face losing their jobs, and may get cited on trumped up charges that can lead to the loss of their ability to practice law, financial destruction, or even criminal indictments.

The net result is that there are only a small handful of American lawyers now, who are willing to (very slightly) politically challenge the American government. But if you ask about lawyers who are willing to challenge corruption by other lawyers and judges, that handful of lawyers dwindles to almost complete zero. Even unemployed and broke lawyers are afraid to confront judicial corruption for a paying client. The lawyers will privately explain it is "career suicide", and just too plain "dangerous", to try to confront dishonest judges and other lawyers. The US human rights and civil liberties groups stay away from this area, too. - They don't want to lose their corporate funding, or suffer financial destruction at the hands of America's criminally vengeful judges in some bogus "lawsuit".

The betrayal of clients by lawyers in the USA, is terrifyingly common. An example is the army of "public defenders" that "represent" poor people as they get convicted and sent to prison. Some of these public defenders are brave and good people, at heart.

But many of them are lazy and incompetent, like the lawyers known to be falling asleep and snoozing in court while their assigned clients are convicted of murder and sentenced to death. Even worse, however, are the all-too-common public defenders who actually help the government to stage fake trials against their own clients.

These "public defender" lawyers are often paid out of government money. If they do not help the government, these lawyers can be dropped from the register, lose their income, and be replaced by other lawyers more willing to be submissive. Though such lawyers may pretend to be "helping" their clients, they often take another role, terrifying and intimidating their clients into accepting unfair plea bargains and prison terms, even when the clients are innocent.

Sometimes the "public defenders" really deserve to be imprisoned themselves. I am currently working on helping an innocent French citizen, Leonel Cazaco, who was sentenced to life in prison for a murder, even though someone else confessed to the crime. At his trial, Mr Cazaco's "public defenders" knew that someone else had already confessed to the murder, but they hid these facts from the court record and from Mr Cazaco himself, to help the government win the conviction. The French government has become active for Mr Cazaco, and his release is hoped for in the future.

But US lawyers are often eager to betray and steal from clients, even when the clients are paying them. Lawyers will sell out and manipulate their clients, to benefit either the government, or the wealthier party that is paying them bribes. This is something lawyers call "playing The Game".

Actually, even very rich political people get robbed by their own lawyers, the lawyers pushing the wealthy people into needless legal cases, just so the lawyers can "milk" them for money. As long as some of the stolen money makes its way into the hands of the judges, even the rich victims usually cannot get redress against the lawyers who have robbed and defrauded them.

Some of America's rogue judges, intoxicated with their sense of unlimited and unrestrained power, get quite cocky about committing felony crimes in broad daylight, leaving a trail of written evidence and even posting it on the internet. It is remarkable what offences they can commit and still remain in office, unchallenged by either news media or law enforcement.

The fake US federal legal proceeding, that forced me to become a political refugee in Europe back in 2004, is one such set of open felony crimes. It is a well-known story now, with a US federal judge instantly banning my freedom of speech and then threatening to jail and murder me, while conducting a fake legal proceeding with the judge's friends posing both as my lawyers, and also as lawyers for a non-existent "first amendment civil rights charity foundation".

The judge and his friends issued fake "court orders" claiming I "agreed" to the banning of my own freedom of speech for the rest of my life, "agreed" to the destruction of my media and publishing company, "agreed" to work for the rest of my life paying several hundred thousand dollars to the friends of the federal judge with the fake "Foundation", and "agreed" never to appeal all these illegal orders or the fraud of the fake "legal proceeding".

- You can find more details at the website about me, and the central legal presentation in my 125-count 3 April 2004 US Appeals Court filing exposing the crimes of the US federal judges. - Needless to say, the US judges never answered my court filing - My court filing was too crisp and precise, too well-supported by proof documents, about the crimes the US federal judges had committed, so the US judges don't dare to reply.

Before the US government gangsters moved in to jail and murder me, and I was forced to escape to Europe to save my life, I did everything I could to find a US lawyer to help me. Specifically so I could find a lawyer, in my final months in the US, I got myself hired into a $150,000 per year job, just so I could afford good lawyers.

I had thought, with so much written proof in my hands of judicial corruption, I would be able to find some brave lawyer to expose all these blatant crimes. I thought I would win back my freedom and strike a blow for justice, just like in some Hollywood movie.

I contacted thousands of lawyers, but no lawyer was willing to help me, even though I could pay them well. The lawyers agreed that I had total proof of judicial corruption and felony crime, and they lusted after my money.

But, as the US lawyers explained to me, there is no way to "fight a crooked judge that's backed by the Bush government". The lawyers were too frightened for their own safety, to risk trying to defend me against a malicious federal judge and his friends. Meanwhile, the judge's friends began to close in on me, demanding extortion money and ready to carry out their threats to jail and murder me.

Thankfully, I escaped from America, the fake and phoney "land of freedom", and that's why you can read these words right now, written in my safe haven in Europe. And then, in 2007, more than three years after I took refuge in Europe, the US judges conducted a new fake "legal proceeding" just for the purpose of creating false media to slander me, and to try and ban my popular writings on US legal corruption, like this article you are reading now, banned by US judges who have served legal papers on Google.

One of the most moving documents I collected in the USA, was a heartfelt note from a gravely ill former Virginia judge, in danger of dying. She wrote to me to confess that Virginia judges, both state and federal, were utterly sunk in crime and bribery, and she correctly predicted that no lawyer would have the courage to help me, despite my proof of judicial corruption. She herself was scared to help me, thinking that the stress would kill her if she got up from her sickbed to try and fight for me.

With these recent deplorable acts of murderous violence against judges and their families, I can see that the instinct of American judges will be to deepen the cover up of judicial misconduct, as if quashing the news and truth about themselves will make them safer. Hence the new 2007 US fake trial to try and ban my freedom of speech all over again, more than three years after I took refuge in Europe.

A better course would be to move toward a more transparent judicial process, with complaints out in the public and posted on the internet, and with the public impeachment and prosecution of the more notorious rogue judges. Americans today need some hope that there is justice at the end of the struggle, and not just a stone wall of corruption and despair.

But that is not happening, as the corporate forces of the US regime unite to attack any significant movement at judicial reform, and most especially the laudably-named JAIL 4 Judges . - The United States needs a return to real democracy and the values of the Bill of Rights, but it seems that in the face of judicial corruption, it is only a major revolution that can end these crimes of horror in which Americans now find themselves.

dr. ira gilac said...

Even in cases where US judges engage in absolutely blatant, open and publicly perverted misbehaviour - like the US judge who used a penis-pump on himself in his courtroom (quite true story) -






dat was jug beans....he wah doon hisself 'in da end'....dats wehre da pump was conncted to....

judge allslop said...

The crime syndicate rolls on.
Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- UBS AG, Switzerland's largest bank, faces dozens of claims in the U.S. from clients who bought ``100 percent principal protected notes'' issued by Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. that are now almost worthless.Six attorneys hired to represent clients in the cases say UBS brokers touted the so-called structured notes as low-risk investments and failed to emphasize they were unsecured obligations of Lehman, which filed for bankruptcy in September.

mogel007 said...

Here are some video clips that I think are very important for everyone to watch...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912&hl=en

-Zeitgeist: Addendum - 123 min - Oct 3, 2008 Much better than Zeitgeist, The
Movie... This is the next step. This one is about the Monetary System set up for profit by a few who control the world by it, and uses slave labour to get that profit (read continuous devaluation of fiat currencies that we are forced to use and taxation that is totally un-necessary). That part, most of
us already know, however, the last 2 sections of the video are about
solutions toward a future world of co-operation and abundance for all, and no need to work as we know it. We have the technology and know how for it now, we just need to unhook from the corrupt monetary system. It's very inspirational and a must see for everyone ASAP. I cannot stress that enough.


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/135.html

- 47 minutes - Money as Debt - The
best explanation of "money" yet, and the horrible criminal scam against
humanity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs

- 8 minutes -Hal Turner about
the AMERO Currency already in created and ready to take over N.A. maybe as
early as 2009 or 2010.

dr. ira gilac said...

sppeeking of zygist...slop just email me whats goin down in da lectons tomorrow...

slop sayed to rite dis down ans save fo futre refinance......



now we no dat slop talk to da HS every day and his nolidge of da babel is usurped by anynone....here is da new revulsion dat da he just got...





now we know from the bible that the babylonian 'mystery' religion is to eventually take over the world and rule it, so they will now take a big step in this election.



the babylonian mystery religion based in rome has tried to put a 'babylonian' in power as a president for a very long time now. the last one didnt last very long JFK...

so, now they have figured out a back door way to do it.


this election will NOT be rigged and obama will win.

however, notice all the media attention about wehre he was born???

yet apparently nothing is being done about it?

so, it will go down like this.

after obama wins, either:

1) he will be 'killed'

either in real life or his 'double' as they have proved that now easily doubles for anyone can be found and substituted for the real thing

or

2) he will be prevented or removed from office based on the birth place issue.

OR

3) voluntarily step down


JB will become pres.

case solved.

voila'

a babylonian mystery religion president-

ROMAN CATHOLIC



dont doubt it for a minute.

after all they successfully pulled off 9/11

i seriously beleive that they beleive that there is truly nothing that they cant pull off NOW...

whoever is doing this is now seriously believing that he has the power of god, or in this case, THE AC

if they pull this off successfully, all that remains is, what else?

what is the other issue in the news today? UFOs

they will try to make god appear in a hologram, and sadly most will beleive it so and that the 'millenial kingdom' (fake) is here. only those with HIGH LEVEL HS will know that the millenial kingdom will be fake

"I WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, SO THAT EVEN THE 'VERY ELECT' SHOULD BE DECEIVED, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE" (BUT ITS NOT-THE "VERY ELECT" WILL RECOGNIZE THE FALSE MILLENIAL KINGDOM)


if this happens, the next pres will be the shadow of the rider on the RED horse- bringing DEATH AND DESTRUCION


those who dont believe in a RAPTURE/ASCENSCION may want to start to think about changing their minds about now.



****SAVE THIS FOR FUTURE REFERENCE****

dr. ira gilac said...

"I WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, SO THAT EVEN THE 'VERY ELECT' SHOULD BE DECEIVED, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE" (BUT ITS NOT-THE "VERY ELECT" WILL RECOGNIZE THE FALSE MILLENIAL KINGDOM)






why does god do this?


becasue all their life, they pursued the 'lie'

they never pursued the truth then, so god says like, why now??

forget about it...stick with the lie, because now its too late my friend...even if you decide to pursue the truth, i am going to send you 'strong delusion' to keep you in your lifelong 'delusion' which previously you were only too happy to be in...so knock youself out...stay there why dont you...stay in your delusion...enjoy the ac...send him a christmas card too!

dr. ira gilac said...

what is 'strong delusion'???



false beleifs


false relgions


false pursuits


FALSE BELEIF IN THE POST TRIB RAPTURE


YES. THE LAST ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.


THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE YESHUA WHO SAID THAT "I WILL KEEP YOU FROM (NOT TAKE YOU OUT OF) THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION (THE TRIBULATION) THAT SHALL COME TO TRY THE WHOLE EARTH"




IT WILL BE LIKE, NOW YOU WOKE UP ONE DAY AND ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE G-O-N-E!!!


ITS LIKE NOW YOU REALIZE TAHT YOUVE MADE A MISTAKE. YOU DIDNT TRUST YESHUA TO KEEP YOU FROM TRIBULATION AND THE A/C

NOW YOU ARE CONVINCE THAT THE RAPTURE WAS REAL AND NOW YOU WANT OUT!!

TOO BAD!!

NOW YOU IN!

JUST LIKE A POKER GAME.

YOUR ALL IN.

YOU BETTER HAVE THE CARDS.

THE ONLY WAY OUT NOW IS THRU THE A/C.

TO REJECT THE A/C AND HIS MARK.

OF COURSE, THIS WILL COME AT A HEAVE PRICE= YOUR LIFE.

A BARGAIN FOR ETERNAL LIFE OF COURSE!!

REMEBER SADDAM AND THE LONG ROPE....


O)))))....O)))))))


THERE GOES YOU HEAD ROLLING DOWN THE STREET...

TRIBULATION VERSE:


"...AND THOSE WHO WERE BEHEADED FOR THEIR WITNESS TO YESHUA"


THE "THOSE' ARE THOSE WHO MISSED THE 'BOAT' (RAPTURE) AND HAVE NOW BECOME CONVINCED THAT THE RAPTURE WAS REAL AND THEY WANT OUT.

TOO LITTLE. TOO LATE.

NOW YOU HEAD IS COMING OFF TO GET INTO YESHUAS 'ETERNAL KINGDOM'

dr. ira gilac said...

SO WAKE UP!!!



DONT

MISS

THE

"BOAT"!!!!!!



WHEN YESHUA COMES BY TO PICK YOU UP;


JUMP IN!!!!!

mogel007 said...

Hal Lindsey, who wrote the "Late Great Planet Earth" and other religious books, is predicting the collapse of the US dollar in Feb. 2009.

I hope he is way off on the date, but even if he's a year or two off, it's coming & it's inevitable due to the latest irreponsible spending of the government & deficit increase to save the banking system & the desire to mortgage the future of it's people. You can't borrow forever & live off of borrowed money for an extended time. The time will come when the government can't even service the interest on the debt & won't have the credit rating to borrow more. That's when the crash will come. The day of reckoning eventually comes.

I don't think the Dorean settlement monies should prolong its plan to help clients too much longer due to the sad shape of the economy & the shakiness of the US Dollar.

I think I want to exchange my US Dollar Dorean settlement monies into Swiss Francs which is at least backed by 30% gold from what I've heard. Should gold skyrocket in price, which is a probability in 2009, the backing will become even better in my opinion.

Maybe even having a dual passport might also be a good idea. The day will come when living in the US might even become intolerable.

During the Civil War times, it was intolerable to live here & many went to Great Britain for refuge. I see bad times ahead.

With the major banks operating as gambling casino & taking INCREDIBLE RISKS LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY, with all of their HUNDREDS OF trillions of dollars in derivatives, it's just a matter of time when the System collapses by the wrong bets & MAJOR BANKS WILL FAIL LIKE JP MORGAN, CITIBANK, & HSBC, & THIS WILL CAUSE A DOMINO EFFECT disrupting the entire nation. That's how God will bring us to our knees, whether we want to or not.

dr. ira gilac said...

i dont agree with mongrel on a lot of things, the rapture being the most important...but having said that...




I don't think the Dorean settlement monies should prolong its plan to help clients too much longer due to the sad shape of the economy & the shakiness of the US Dollar.



AGREED. EVEN THE BIBLE SAID THAT IF CERTAIN DAYS WERE NOT SHORTENED, 'THERE WOOULD BE ONLY 'JIMMY NOONE' LEFT...IE THERE WOOULD BE NOBODY LEFT TO COLLECT THE DG $$$$

======================

I think I want to exchange my US Dollar Dorean settlement monies into Swiss Francs which is at least backed by 30% gold from what I've heard. Should gold skyrocket in price, which is a probability in 2009, the backing will become even better in my opinion.


FORGET FIAT CURRECIE ALTOGETHER. BUY GOLD COINS/BULLOIN
-----------------------

Maybe even having a dual passport might also be a good idea. The day will come when living in the US might even become intolerable.

AND I REALLY HATE TO AGREE WITH MONGREL ON THIS ONE, AS I LIVE HERE TOO, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT WILL BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE HERE IN THE UNTIED STATES.

CHAOS WILL ENSUE. THE BABYLONINA PRES. WILL MAKE FULL USE OF FOREIGN BORN ROMAN CATHOLICS TO TOTALLY WIPE OUT ALL SEATS OF POWER WHO ARE NOT ROM CATH, USING IMMIGRANSTS/LATINOS (WHO ARE REALLY INDIANS IN ANCESTRY) WHO WILL BE UNAWARE THAT THEY ARE BEING USED AND THAT THE GOVT. DOES NOT REALLY CARE AUBT THEM. AND WHEN THEIR USE IS UP, THE GOVT. WILL DESTROY THEM TOO.

-------------------------



During the Civil War times, it was intolerable to live here & many went to Great Britain for refuge. I see bad times ahead.



AGREED.

==============================




YES. BAD TIMES ARE MOST DEF AHEAD HERE.


ALREADY, IN BOTH THE EAST/WEST LARGE COASTAL CITIES IT IS DANGEROUS FOR THE WHITE MAN TO LIVE.

THIS SCENARIO IS BEING CREATED BY THE GOVT WHICH IS MOSTLY WHITE BUT WHO WORSHIP LUCIFER.

dr. ira gilac said...

i also hate to admint it, but for those who want to live a bit longer in this 'earthly' kingdom, then really bibilcy there are only 2 places to go that are guarenteed to survive into the 'end times'




1) go to the 'revived roman empire' right under the nose of "the beast" and bow down and take 'the mark'...you will be able to buy/sell

you will 'survive' there at least until the kings of the north/south/east start having a free for all


2) go the 'holy land' right under the nose of the 'false prophet' and worship daily in the falso tribulation temple that they are preparing to build and have obtained all the worship implements for including the reassemebled 'sanhedrin' and the red heifer, two ton gold menorah, white ropes, etc, etx

all they are waitng for is to take down the temple mount which is currently controlled by the muslims.
when they finally take it dwon, by bulldozer, blowing it up, sattellite micorwave controlled earthquake, howver they do it, needless to say, all hell break loose.

you will survive there too, at lest until the "2 witnesses" appear and then the sh*t hist the fan


corse, you will survive longer there than in erupe, as in europe, the rc chruch will be taken dwon, or as the bible says.. " burned with fire' as god put it in their hearts to do so.

then the a/c come to the holy land an kick out the rabbis in the temple and roast a pig there...

like pork chops??/

a/c will have a big cookout for yo...bring the chips and beer...LLOOLL!!!




SO, TAKE YO CHOICE??


GO WITH THE A/C OR THE FALSE PROFIT $$$$$

dr. ira gilac said...

fro some it may be a "tuff call" to make




WHEN YESHUA COMES BY TO PICK YOU UP;


JUMP IN!!!!!





"...BUT GOLLY, MY HYPE JUST PAYOUT $1 MILLION DOOLAS IN THE PROPENSITY PROGRAM!!!


'DO I HAVE TO GO NOW'????


CANT I ENJOY AT LEAST SOME OF IT???


PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!!



NOW!!?? OR NEVER!!!


AWWWW...SH*T!!!!!

notorial dissent said...

Moogey more delirious than usual
I don't think the Dorean settlement monies should prolong its plan to help clients too much longer due to the sad shape of the economy & the shakiness of the US Dollar.

What settlement monies Moog? Dorean/Kurt/Dr Fred or any of the involved fools haven’t got a pot to piss in, let alone any way to return any money to anyone. The only thing Kurt is going to be doing is spending the remainder of his otherwise useless life in a prison cell spouting pseudo religious blasphemy to people even less aware than he.

If you think anything is going to come of that collection liens he filed you are even more deluded than Kurt is, the Fed’s are taking steps to have them all voided, provided that the state of CA hasn’t already done so once they looked at them. In any event, they aren’t going to produce anything but an addition to the time Kurt is already serving, and considering his past track record, they will tack the sentences on consecutively.

Moogey shows his financial brilliance yet again
I think I want to exchange my US Dollar Dorean settlement monies into Swiss Francs which is at least backed by 30% gold from what I've heard. Should gold skyrocket in price, which is a probability in 2009, the backing will become even better in my opinion.

You’ll come closer to exchanging monopoly money than anything you are ever likely to get from Dorean. So put you money in Swiss Francs, when it comes to exchanging them you will still only get back whatever the dollar value was when you bought them, less of course a hefty exchange fee. If and when the price of gold goes up significantly, and you tried to exchange them for gold, you would only get the quantity of gold they were worth at the time, which would be less than current value, so where exactly are you ahead in this transaction. You will in fact be paying more for less gold than you could have had before. But then again, I keep forgetting that economics, real estate law, law in general, and contract law just aren’t your forte.

My aren’t you just the bundle of optimism today, never ceases to amaze me how you can think the cock and bull nonsense of Dorean has reality behind it, and then in the next breath just convinced the world is coming to an end, but then consistency, like common sense was never part of your repertoire either.

You're still good for a modicum of amusement, but that is about as far as it goes.

dr. ira gilac said...

1) go to the 'revived roman empire' right under the nose of "the beast" and bow down and take 'the mark'...you will be able to buy/sell

you will 'survive' there at least until the kings of the north/south/east start having a free for all





AT TAHT POINT, YOU CAN PROBLY RELIVE WAHT IT WAS LIKE TO LIVE UNDER "ROMAN RULE"

AS IN DOSE DAYS, ROME "THE BEAST" WAS THE MOST POWERFUL, RUTHLESS, CORRUPT EMIPRE THAT THE WORLD HAD EVER SEEN UP TO THAT POINT.


ONLY SUPRASSED BY THE USA OF TODAY, WHIHC IN ALL REALITY IS JUST ROME MOVED WEST AS WE HAVE ALL THE SAME PRINCIPLE OF GOVT THAT ROME DID...SEANTORS, CONGRESS, CITY COUNCILORS, ETC

WE EVEN HAVE AN EMPEROR/DICTATOR/CAESAR LIKE ROME DID. "W" WHO HAS TAKE THE POWER TO OVERRULE/REWRITE/IGNORE THE RULE OF LAW TO HIS OWN TASTES.


DA POOP DOESNT PREFACE HIS SPEECHES BY SAYING

"URBI ET ORBI" FOR NOTHING


IT MEANS: "TO THE CITY; AND TO THE WORLD" AND HE MEANS IT.


FROM THE ROOT:


URBAN = CITY


ORBITAL = WORLD

dr. ira gilac said...

make yo raptoon dision a tuff none....make sum doe with burly bowels hypes...

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mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: If you think anything is going to come of that collection liens he filed you are even more deluded than Kurt is, the Fed’s are taking steps to have them all voided, provided that the state of CA hasn’t already done so once they looked at them.
_________________________________

First of all that hasn't happened yet, and how do you know they haven't been assigned or sold for money already? You don't do you?

Debt is money in our society anyway. Seems to me lenders strapped for cash right now would want to purchase those liens filed in CA to enhance their balance sheets. Greed & desparation does strange things sometimes. They can fractionalize that debt 9 times, so if clients get 5 times the judgment amounts, it's a win-win situation for both.

A lone rogue cannot mess with the financial system or commerce. You say the Federal government OR COURTS ARE going to SOMEHOW void these liens somehow, but the fact of the matter is, they've been filed for how many years now, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE about your assertion!!!

These liens were discussed on this blog years ago, so you can't tell me the FBI or the powers that be, KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THEM UNTIL NOW & THAT THEY ARE FINALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING. I say "poo poo" to that.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "provided that the state of CA hasn’t already done so once they looked at them."
_________________________________

Look dufuss, THE STATE OF CA looked at them once they were filed years ago, & DID NOTHING.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "So put you money in Swiss Francs, when it comes to exchanging them you will still only get back whatever the dollar value was when you bought them, less of course a hefty exchange fee. If and when the price of gold goes up significantly, and you tried to exchange them for gold, you would only get the quantity of gold they were worth at the time, which would be less than current value,"
____________________________

All of your rantings, doesn't take into consideration if you put everything in Dollars, and Dollars become next to worthless, if you put your money in another currency that says stable, YOU ARE WAY AHEAD. But listening, logic & reason never was your forte was it?

mogel007 said...

Dr. said: "FORGET FIAT CURRECIE ALTOGETHER. BUY GOLD COINS/BULLOIN"
___________________________

I agree with that, but you will need some sort of account to pay immediate bills & things or a place to park monies. I'm not so sure it's going to be convenient or practical to pay everything with bullion coins or gold, nor will everyone want or accept that.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: "in the next breath just convinced the world is coming to an end,"
________________________________

If you don't believe THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT, at some point, than you are more scriptually illiterate & more spiritually bankrupt than I previously thought.

You're amusing to me since you think you know more than the holy prophets who have spoken about these things & who have seen these things in vision already.

dr. ira gilac said...

I agree with that, but you will need some sort of account to pay immediate bills & things or a place to park monies. I'm not so sure it's going to be convenient or practical to pay everything with bullion coins or gold, nor will everyone want or accept that.

---------------------





yes. you will want to keep sum mooney in a cheking acct. to pay current bills.

any 'investment' money should be kept in gold howver.

as far as whether some will not accept it, weel, thats there loose...they will always bee dummees around....those probly still have all they money in sayvings actts......

dr. ira gilac said...

corse, an even betta invetment mite bee to invst in some of browny balls hypse...afta all, they pay out at least 10% per weak...ho yo goona do betta dan dat????



i may even buy none of dose $30 units @ thirtydollarunits.com

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "But then again, I keep forgetting that economics, real estate law, law in general, and contract law just aren’t your forte."
________________________________

No, you don't keep forgetting, because obviously you keep saying the same old things time & time again bringing up my ignornance, so either you are lying, or being sarcastic as usual. Half the time I can't tell if you are just lying or just being sarcastic.

Course I don't get the cohesiveness of the sentence, since you are talking about foreign exchange rates, & than concluded you were talking about
real estate law, and contract law & I didn't know anything about those subjects. Sorry, but an English teacher would give you an F on your irrelevancies that you bring up & the general incohesiveness of the logic of your conclusions. No cookie for you today.

You're a person that still thinks that lenders lend out their own assets & that lenders don't create money through their lending process. That's the most ignorant thing anyone could say on this blog, when there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

mogel007 said...

"Derivatives the new 'ticking time bomb'...Buffett and Gross warn: $516 trillion bubble is a disaster waiting to happen."
Marketwatch March 10, 2008

Derivatives have been at the core of almost every major economic disaster since 1987. They were responsible for Black Monday. They were behind the Asian crisis, the LTCM hedge fund disaster, the fall of Barings Bank, the bankruptcy of Orange county and the collapse of Enron and Argentina.

And they'll soon be responsible for what could turn out to be the greatest economic disaster yet. For the popularity of these notorious financial instruments has erupted at an alarming rate. their explosive growth has given birth to an underground economy---so powerful and so complex--that no one really understands it except Notarial Dissent. LOL
Not Buffett--not even Greenspan or Bernanke. Yet one thing is clear to all: This "Phantom Economy" carries threats that have the power to blow up the U.S. financial system.

In the past, the banks rarely put much of their own capital at risk. Now they are making increasingly larger bets with their own assets. What's more, they're borrowing vast amounts of money to jack up the risk even more. And they're doing it to grasp for high returns on everything from distressed Chinese businesses to Iraqi bonds...from Brazilian-based corporations to catastrophe bonds...from Jakarta stocks to highly leveraged derivatives bets.

As Warren Buffett said at his last Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting: "A world, where huge amounts of leverage have been brought into the system is a dangerous world."
And now the worst derivatives disaster is upon us. And we believe it'll prove to be the Mother of All Economidc Disasters.

The difference in the S&L crisis is that when the derivatives bubble finally blows, the fall-out will be 100 times worse. The S&L crisis cost American taxpayers hundreds of billions and depressed the real estate market for years. But no pot will be big enough to bail out America this time.

History of the Derivatives Market

1973 The Chicago Board Options Exchange opens...and trading in large-scale derivatives begins.

1983 President Reagon signed the 1982 Futures Trading Act for derivatives. This was a major feature in the disastrous Reagon-era deregulation of the U.S. economy

1986 The notational value of derivatives balloons to 618 billion.

1987 The failure of the stock market and the derivatives markets to operate in sync, causes the collapse of global stock markets (according to the Presidential Task Force on Market Mechanisms)..and the terrific force of derivatives is felt for the first time.

1988 The notational value of derivatives hits the $1 trillion mark.

1994 Global derivatives market exceeds $10 trillion mark..and the first series of major derivatives failures begins. Metallgesellshaft loses $1.5 billion on oil futures. Procter & Gamble loses $157 million by trading derivatives; Orange County, California, publicly acknowledges a $1.5 billion loss due ot its derivatives plays, bankrupting the county)

1995 Barings Bank goes bust because one rogue trader, Nick Leeson, loses $1.4 billion with derivatives bets on the Nikkeei index that were shattered by the Kobe earthquake.

1995 Wisconsisn's $6.7 billion State Investment Board posts a $95 million loss from unauthorized use of derivatives.

1997 Under-regulated, derivative-based credit swap contracts cause the collapse of the Asian markets.

1998 The derivates trading of a single hedge fund, Long Term Capital Management, almost causes the collapse of global stock markets. Fed organizes a $3.5 billion bailout.

2000 Global derivatives positions leap to more than $95 trillion---even as the stock market crashes and the global economy goes into recession.

2001 Enron (without the public knowing it) had secretly transformed itself from an energy trader into an unregulated derivatives player, causing its eventual collapse.

2003 Fannie Mae loses $8.4 billion on its derivatives portfolio causing its stock to plummet.

2003 Buffett warns investors that the bubble in the derivatives market is a "mega-catastrophe waiting to happen." His comments send ripples through global markets.

2008 Global derivatives market exceeds $690 trillion (more than 12 times the size of the entire global economy).

Sorry Notarial Dissent, your past comment about "the global economy keeping up" is a false assumption.

mogel007 said...

Are you banking with one of these Casinos?

Rank Bank Name Derivatives
in US Billions
3/30/2008

1 JP Morgan/Chase 89,997.3
2. Bank of America 37,939.7
3. Citibank 37,691.4
4. Wachovia Bank 4,884.8
5. HSBC 4,279.7
6. Wells Fargo 1,440.2
7. Bank of N.Y. 1,058.6
8. State Street B. 904.6
9. PNC Bank 248.7
10. Sun Trust Banks 241.4
11. Mellon Bank 192.1
12. Northern Trust 164.6
13. National City 158.6
14. Key Bank 134.3
15. U.S. Bank 99.6
16. Regions Bank 69.7
17. Branch Banking 61.8
18. Fifth Third Bank 56.0
19. RBS Citizens 54.6
20. Merrill Lynch 46.8
21. First Tennessee B. 37.9
22. LaSalle Bank 36.9
23. Union Bank of CA 32.1
24. UBS USA 31.2
25. Deutsche Bank 30.7

dr. ira gilac said...

yo no wah da relly issane ting about all this 'driveltives" stuff iz???


when dis all cum down a bit, they will go rite back to da same thins....cratin' drivatiffs again...an da same thins hoppens all ova agin...so ho they bullsh*ttin????

mogel007 said...

"Derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction...time bombs, both for the parties that deal in them, and the economic system...The macro picture is dangerous and getting more so..."
Warren Buffett

"..at some time in the future it (the derivatives trading market) could bring the world's financial system to its kneeds."
Sir Julian Hodge Senior Welsh Banker

"The risk that won't go away"
--Cover story on the dangers of derivatives from Fortune Magazine

"Poorly structured derivatives of all kinds that redistribute risk, but don't eliminate it, portend the likelihood of another LTCM debacle...Greenspan is clearly off base in his support of derivatives and their medicinal 'hedging' qualities.
Bill Gross, the legendary bond fund manager

"JP Morgan Chases dabbling in derivatives makes it too big for even the Feeral Reserve to bail out."
John Crudele, New York Post. Feb. 7, 2002

"So dominant is Morgan Chase in the derivatives market that its exposure looks like typographical errors."
Jim Grant of Jim Grant's Interest Rate Observer

judge allslop said...

I recomend that "Son of Bruce" load up on 30yr treasurys and financials.
S.Africa: Shocker: We ran out of Gold coins - KrugerRands! - A shortage of Gold coins?
Date Posted: Tuesday 04-Nov-2008....He told me that they got an order for 5,000 gold coins from Switzerland and there is a rumoured shortage of gold coins in Germany.Etc etc.

dr. ira gilac said...

yo rite about gold.

yo cant buy 'real' gold coins/bullin at anywhere near the quoted spit price.

yo haf to pay at leaast $100 more per ounce IF YOU CAN FIND ANY TO BUY.


mayb dbay haf sum?


an they strating to figure out dat da jig is up...the price manpoolation of gold is almost up and gold is gong to break thru to $1k per oz and more....better get to emearald city and by some oz fo yoself....beefo it all gone an da lizard take it all....

dr. ira gilac said...

mabye while yo at it yo can also by sum iraq dinars too.


arch crawford says that they will be devalued by 1000x very soon.

arch crawford no wha he talking aobut.


he predicated the crash of 87

an da crash in last month of almost 1000 pts.

it was in his newsletter

he even preded 9/11 bleeve it or not.


he an astrological analyst for stox/coms/bonds/etc


check it out fo yoself at

www.crawfordperspectives.com



dis gee is fo reel...no pansy here...

dr. ira gilac said...

chek dis out from his sept. 08 newslitter:

(NOTICE THE LAST ENTRY FOR OCT 10!!)

he nailed the crash to within 3 days!!!!
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ASTRONOMIC ACTIVITY



SEPT 1 = Labor Day Monday = Enjoy an extra day of rest & relaxation. Watch foreign markets; may give a clue.
SEP 3-4 = Sun conjoins Saturn, then trines Jupiter = Sharp flip-flop from cautious to over-optimistic = sharp rally starts here?
SEP 7-10 = Huge energetic planetary output. Mars, then Mercury, then Venus tightly aspect the Stationing Jupiter/Saturn trine!
We opine that equities will drop away as tightly energetic force dissipates. Multiple + & - aspects can confuse the Bradley!
SEP 15 = Full Moon at a ‘fated’ and ‘tragic’ degree of 23 Pisces conjoins Uranus, planet of surprise disruptions, also sudden inspiration.
SEP 15-19 = BRADLEY Model makes a temporary low during this period. Could we rally from here? Yet, October lurks…,
SEP 19 = Quadruple Witching Option Expiry – Expect a few more Down days after this!
SEP 22 = Extend that potential Low period through Monday’s Fall Equinox – a frequent ‘change’ day!
SEP 24 = Another ‘change’ day as Mercury Retrograde Station throws a wrench into any attempted improvements. (for 3 weeks!)
SEP 29 = New Moon 135 deg. To Neptune. Once more emphasizes OIL, GOLD, INFLATION – may be water damage.
OCT 3 = Mars enters Scorpio. Diplomacy Fails and Bloodlust begins! Damage through War, Accident, Volcanic explosions.
OCT 5-8 = Excruciating amount of planetary energy release – Good and Bad – powerful!
OCT 10 = Best bet for Market Crash, plus or minus 3 trading days! (October 7-15)



ATTENTION: The CP newsletters are usually mailed 1st Monday. Next will be Monday, October 6th.

dr. ira gilac said...

Listen to a taped interview w/analyst Arch Crawford conducted on Oct. 11 where he states that the Iraqi Dinar will be revalued at 1000 times its current exchange rate.

Mr. Crawford is no 'fly-in-the pan' as he uses astrology and has been a market analyst for over 30 years beginning as an assistant with Merril/Lynch.

He has correctly predicted the crash of Oct. 1987 and the top in the stock market to within 2 days in Aug. 87. Although I was not a subscriber to his newsletter at the time, I do actually remember FNN interviewing him about the accuracy of this prediction. I do not personally believe in astrolgy, but obvioulsy in the right hands it works.

He has also predicted some 'major event' to occur during Sept. 2001 and some other amazing predictions.

He also talks about Gold/Silver as perhaps the only true investments left as the stock market has just begun its major decline to levels not seen since the great Depression of '29.

Listen to a worthwhile interview for free here:


http://radio.goldseek.com
/crawfordoct11.php




[In order to listen to Mr. Crawford, you must download the entire interview and then once downloaded, fast forward to Hour 2 of the program which begins with Mr. Crawford if you do not wish to listen to the complete program.]

dr. ira gilac said...

OCT 10 = Best bet for Market Crash, plus or minus 3 trading days! (October 7-15)




ON OCT 15, SOCK MAKIT CRASH ALMOST 1000 PTS

THIS WAS 3 TRADING DAYS AFTHER OCT 10


OCT 10 WAS A FRIDAY

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MON 13

TUE 14

OCT 15 WAS A WEDNESDAY

3 TRADING DAYS LATER



this gee fo reel!

judge allslop said...

Didn't they find Arch wandering around that UFO crash site near Roswell back in 47?

dr. ira gilac said...

Didn't they find Arch wandering around that UFO crash site near Roswell back in 47?

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is dat wehn da aleens came out an gave scotch all the preditons for the next 100 years accyoorate to within 3 days???


is dat why he so good at making prictions??

dr. ira gilac said...

"THOU SHALL NOT PRACTICE DIVINTION"



IF yo gong to do it, DO IT FO REEL!!!!


jus like scratch crawfish do.



no prackticing.

notorial dissent said...

Moogie grasping at straws again
First of all that hasn't happened yet, and how do you know they haven't been assigned or sold for money already? You don't do you?

Oh, but you were just crowing about the settlement, so if they haven’t been sold where is the money coming from, and if they have been sold, where is the money? Sitting maybe in the Bank of Dougy? Well that won’t amount to much.

In any event, since the liens are legally invalid, the entire point is moot.

Moogey the financial whiz
Debt is money in our society anyway. Seems to me lenders strapped for cash right now would want to purchase those liens filed in CA to enhance their balance sheets.

Right Moogs, and after they get done with that there is some bottom land in Fl that they’ll just love, along with this bridge I know of. No one in their right, or other mind is going to buy that nonsense, simply for the reason that it is nonsense, and any attempt by the dim duo to sell or otherwise dispose of them will just add another layer of criminal charges to the ones they are already facing.

Moogey the legal scholar
You say the Federal government OR COURTS ARE going to SOMEHOW void these liens somehow, but the fact of the matter is, they've been filed for how many years now, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE about your assertion!!!

Dream on Moogster, the liens have already been forwarded to the appropriate judicial authorities to be dealt with, and the CA Sec of State can simply expunge the ones filed there for legal insufficiency once they have been examined, if they haven’t already done so. In either case, they are all legal nullities and will be treated as the attempts at fraud they are.

Moogey the legal scholar-part 2
Look dufuss, THE STATE OF CA looked at them once they were filed years ago, & DID NOTHING.

Ah no, doofus, they accepted them for filing without examining them, since they assumed they were valid at the time, there is nothing to stop them from reviewing the filings and expunging them at a later date.

Moogey the financial expert
...if you put your money in another currency that says stable, YOU ARE WAY AHEAD.

Wasn’t what you were saying or what I replied to, but then you never have been good at sticking to topic, but in reply to your change of subject, if our currency goes down, so will all the rest, so it really isn’t going to matter.

and Moogey blathers on
...than you are more scriptually illiterate & more spiritually bankrupt than I previously thought.

Moogs, as I once pointed out, the only person I am less likely to give financial or spiritual credence to than Kurt is you. Incidently, the words are scripturally and the other word is then.

Moogie pointing out the obvious about Moogie
No, you don't keep forgetting, because obviously you keep saying the same old things time & time again bringing up my ignornance

Because it is so true, true, true, and since you don’t seem to get the point on one pass.

Moogie back to the same old whine
You're a person that still thinks that lenders lend out their own assets & that lenders don't create money through their lending process.

That would be me, and most of the rest of the world not living in refrigerator boxes, or excuse me trailers, and dodging the law. Try your nonsense on some one who actually teaches banking or economics, and when they get done laughing at you for the fool you are, they will tell you that you are a fool, and to run along, and come back later when you’ve actually learned something that you didn’t scam off the internet. The only people who believe that nonsense are people too stupid to actually find out how something works, and too lazy to actually ask someone who really does it for a living.

mogel007 said...

Duffus said: if our currency goes down, so will all the rest, so it really isn’t going to matter.
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No, that's NOT how it works in the real Forex market. With assumptions like that, you would lose all of your money in the currency market.

mogel007 said...

The only people who believe that nonsense are people too stupid to actually find out how something works, and too lazy to actually ask someone who really does it for a living.
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Obviously you can't read or explain the many Federal Reserve Publications that say otherwise & there are many experts that agree with my point of view, but you would rather believe a lie. You just label things said in the Federal Reserve publications as not being the meaning intended, but never give the meaning intended which is really not an answer to anything.
It's like a Judge that says A PERSONS'S arguments are frivilous & the Judge then backs his conclusion of law up WITH NOTHING TRUE OR NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.IT HAPPENED IN THE DOREAN CASE & THE PEITITE JURY WERE PREJUDICED BY THE WRONGFUL INSTRUCTIONS OF LAW TO THE JURY.

If you ask a banker to sign an affadavit to the things you are saying, how lending works, a banker NEVER SIGNS IT, so you are wrong again. People that do it for a living won't lie under oath. No such affidavit was put in the court as evidence in the Dorean case either, nor any court record for that matter. There was an affidavit prepared in the dorean presentment for any banker to sign. No lender ever signed one. If that doesn't tell you something, than you are more naiive than I once imagined.

notorial dissent said...

and Moogie is off and running at the mouth again
Obviously you can't read or explain the many Federal Reserve Publications that say otherwise & there are many experts that agree with my point of view, but you would rather believe a lie.

Actually I have read them, they are poorly written oversimplifications of a process that has no business being reduced to a silly pamphlet to justify PR concerns, and particularly when they are as poorly written and misleading as they are.

Besides you’re the one who keeps saying that the Fed can’t be trusted, and yet here you are ready able and willing to swallow anything they generate that agrees or seems to agree with what you want to believe, can’t have it both ways Moogs. Quite frankly, considering the Feds past track record, I would be hard pressed to give much credence to anything they say. Particularly since it is quite obvious that the past chairman didn’t have a clue and was so very wrong about all of his policy decisions.

Moogie ranting again
It's like a Judge that says A PERSONS'S arguments are frivilous & the Judge then backs his conclusion of law up WITH NOTHING TRUE OR NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.IT HAPPENED IN THE DOREAN CASE & THE PEITITE JURY WERE PREJUDICED BY THE WRONGFUL INSTRUCTIONS OF LAW TO THE JURY.

Sure it did Moogs, just keep telling yourself that, if you lie to yourself long enough you can believe anything. The plain fact of the matter is that the Dorean theories are crap, and have always been crap, and there is better than a thousand years of banking history to prove it. Their theories on power of attorney and consent were crap, and we have three hundred or so years of US case law to say so.

Like I said Moogs, go ask someone who actually teaches economics or banking your silly questions. You won’t of course, since you’ll get laughed at, but that just proves my point. You don’t want answers, you want agreement with your current fantasy, well, not going to happen here, or in the real world, so it must be tough being you.

mogel007 said...

Notarial said: Ah no, doofus, they accepted them for filing without examining them, since they assumed they were valid at the time,
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Kind of strange assumptions don't you think, when you look at all of the bad press at the time and the fact that it was the Northern District of California that filed the fraud charges, the same State that seems to think they are fraudulent documents that were filed.

Remember Mr. Alvin James Hansen who claims he has all of those liens against the major banks? Mr. Hansen claims that he has a 3 TRILLION dollar UCC judgment against major banks like Bank of America, Chase Manhattan, Berkshire Hathaway, Bill Gates & government officials like Arnold Schwatznegger, many lawyers & felons, & other corporations like Porsche.

His filings haven't been overturned either. Course he may have been bumped off & is dead or kidnapped somewhere, but his last claims were that his filings were still in tact & he claims trillions in dollars owed to him. I've never heard that any "mail fraud" charges were ever made against him. Why is that? He seems to be a bigger fish than Kurt & Scott assuming his liens are factual & effective. His paperwork & filings are quite elaborate. You can call him a kook, but that doesn't negate all of the paperwork that seems to give him legitimacy.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "Actually I have read them, they are poorly written oversimplifications of a process that has no business being reduced to a silly pamphlet to justify PR concerns, and particularly when they are as poorly written and misleading as they are."
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So you want me to believe that the Federal Reserve is so inept that they can't find any true experts to write exactly how things are & to write the truth in a form that isn't confusing, oversimplified, or even misleading?

Even you can give a better answer than that.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "the CA Sec of State can simply expunge the ones filed there for legal insufficiency once they have been examined, if they haven’t already done so."
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Then, WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE IT? Check their website. Last time I checked they were still there.
No cookie for you today!!!!!

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent says: if our currency goes down, so will all the rest, so it really isn’t going to matter.
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Sorry, but a currency trader YOU AREN'T, so please don't pretend to be an expert here.

While the Dollar has been going down during that period of time, ALL OF THE OTHER CURRENCIES DIDN'T GO DOWN AT THE SAME TIME TOO.

Your statements are moronic to say the least.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Says: Besides you’re the one who keeps saying that the Fed can’t be trusted, and yet here you are ready able and willing to swallow anything they generate that agrees or seems to agree with what you want to believe, can’t have it both ways Moogs.
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Not true either. Even liars tell the truth at times, even you.
You can't disregard EVERYTHING YOUR ENEMIES SAY AS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE TRUE OR EVEN TRUSTED.

mogel007 said...

Notarial says: Their theories on power of attorney and consent were crap, and we have three hundred or so years of US case law to say so.
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There is a big difference between express & implied power of attorney & the differnt ways that power of attorney can be had & upheld. Talk about "oversimplification", you are the master at it & perverting things to be too simple & creating an answer that applys to all cases. If things were that oversimplifed, you wouldn't need the Court system at all.

As far as consent is concerned, or "agency by estoppel", silence is equated with fraud & silence or default is equated with acceptance. You only have the banks & the credit card companies to prove that, that sue people all the time & when the borrowers don't show up or respond to the claims, they get default judgments against them, & than seize wages or assign these judgments to collections agency that collect on these judgments.

Many court precedences were cited in the past on this subject ON THIS BLOG, so don't give me this crap of three hundred years of consistency you speak of. If there were some sort of disagreement with the terms that the Dorean Group sent to the banks, the banks should have made certain that there was proper communication & understanding by written disputes that were timely & validations made by the banks sent timely back to the Dorean Group IN ORDER TO REMOVE ALL DOUBT. This wasn't done, & still hasn't been done despite the circus antics of the Courts. Instead, the banks ignored the Dorean Presentments completely. This ignoring is equated with the fraud that lenders are daily engaged in.
As the saying goes, "if you have nothing to hide, GIVE FULL DISLCOSURE & prove it." Don't hide behind the crap that "well, we have no legal obligation AS A LENDER to respond POINT FOR POINT to the Dorean Presentment in any case SINCE IT'S FRIVILOUS & OF NO LEGAL CONSEQUENCE OR BASIS."
That my friend, is an "oversimplification".

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: Sure it did Moogs, just keep telling yourself that, if you lie to yourself long enough you can believe anything.
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But how is that relevant, SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING.

And you can't really believe in everything, & you can't believe contradictory things at the same time since that defies logic, so your conclusion MAKES NO SENSE AS USUAL.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "Ah no, doofus, THEY ACCEPTED THEM for filing without examining them, since they assumed they were valid at the time, there is nothing to stop them from reviewing the filings and expunging them at a later date.
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Your comment is totally heresay & is NOT EVIDENCE. You can't testify to what others know, so stop pretending to know so much about the court system, or what the State of California THOUGHT AT THE TIME. Your own comments are laughable. Your statement WOULD BE TOTALLY THROWN OUT BY THE JUDGE. And if it wasn't, the Judge needs to be thrown off the bench. Obviously you don't know what "heresay" means. Look it up in the legal dictionary.

You say "there is nothing stopping them from expunging them". Maybe they are waiting for a victory on the new "mail fraud charges", you think? Obviously there is something stopping them, considering the time frame & the fact that they are still there. If it's fraud & fraud has been proven, WHAT'S STOPPING THEM EVEN AS WE SPEAK? Use logic sometimes. You might learn something.

Maybe at a LATER DATE, THERE WILL BE A FINANCIAL SETTLEMENT FOR ALL CLIENTS. I thought you might like that logic. It's your logic you know. You can't always know the future.

mogel007 said...

nOTARIAL SAID: the CA Sec of State can simply expunge the ones filed there for legal insufficiency once they have been examined, if they haven’t already done so.
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Oh really? Who decides "legal insufficiency"? The CA Sec. of State? You must believe that since there has been no trial to date on the subject of "legal insufficiency" so why did you say, "if they haven't already done so." Do you read what you type? You make no sense at all. Course if you believe a lie, maybe you can believe anything. LOL

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: That would be me, and most of the rest of the world not living in refrigerator boxes, or excuse me trailers, and dodging the law.
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Again, "heresay" crap by you. As a beneficiary of my family trust, I have beneficiary interest in several homes. I can live anywhere I want, so I find the "trailer" comment, kind of rude. As far as the "dodging the law" comment, I find THAT to be extremely laughable too. How am I "dodging the law". The only thing I have been charged with is "having no car insurance" at the time I was pulled over & I have not been charged with anything pertaining to the Dorean Process, so excuse me, but you owe me an apology there doofus. As far as "dodging the law", I was actually pulled over by a Salt Lake County police officer in the County where there is a "bench warrant" for not paying a court fine about 2 years ago. After an hour of detention, by the police officers & their communications & investigation on whatever they do in their cars & the police officer calling for backup of 4 other officers, & the head officer calling me a liar, after some heated comments, telling me to get out of my car, in the end, HE ENDED UP LETTING ME GO & TOLD ME TO GO TO THE NEXT COUNTY & NOT COME BACK. So Mr. genius, explain that to me?

The only dodging of the law is the officer that pulled me over, KNOWING THERE WAS A BENCH WARRANT OUT FOR ME THAT HE REFUSED TO EXECUTE UPON & LET ME GO, so do me a favor, & shut the hell up. You don't know what you are talking about half the time & certainly don't possess all of the facts.

notorial dissent said...

Rant on Moogs, Hansen is a whack job, and none of his stuff is either valid or enforceable.



rant on Moogs
So you want me to believe that the Federal Reserve is so inept that they can't find any true experts to write exactly how things are & to write the truth in a form that isn't confusing, oversimplified, or even misleading?


Moogey, as I have stated on many occasions, I don’t really care what you believe. The pamplets are poorly written, from a factual standpoint they are nonsense, since they are a gross oversimplification of a process that they very poorly explain, and they were largely a publicity exercise that should never have been attempted. You will also note that they are no longer in print for precisely the reason that they were poorly done. You’re the one always claiming that everything the Fed says is a fraud, and yet you accept as gospel a silly pamplet. Got ask a real economist or banking instructor.

more Moogey
Sorry, but a currency trader YOU AREN'T, so please don't pretend to be an expert here.

Never said I was a currency trader, but if there is a significant drop in the US dollar, everything else will follow.

Hate to break it to you Moogs, but of late the dollar has been trading up from most of the matching currencies instead of down.

further rantings to no effect
There is a big difference between express & implied power of attorney & the differnt ways that power of attorney can be had & upheld.

Let’s see, what is the right response to this, oh right, BS!!!!! There is no such thing as “implied” power of attorney, and there is only one way POA is granted, by express, intentional signed authorization. It cannot be assumed, or implied, or created by default, it must be expressly and intentionally and knowingly granted.

and still more
As far as consent is concerned, or "agency by estoppel", silence is equated with fraud & silence or default is equated with acceptance.

More and equal BS, silence, is just that, silence. The rest is just more of your delusional nonsense. If there had been a real controversy, the courts were the forum to have dealt with it, and that wasn’t utilized for the simple fact there was no real controversy, and nothing that would pass the sniff test.

sure it is Moogs
Your comment is totally heresay & is NOT EVIDENCE. You can't testify to what others know, so stop pretending to know so much about the court system, or what the State of California THOUGHT AT THE TIME.

I know how bureaucracies work, and for the most part, the Sec of State’s office only gives a cursory glance at most documents filed for the simple reason they have no way of knowing if they are true and correct, they are assumed so, and it is a crime to file false documents. This isn’t to say they can’t go back and review them for correctness when it is brought in to question. And, since I happen to know people who work in both the SOS and the county clerks offices, I do know what I am talking about.

and still more
Oh really? Who decides "legal insufficiency"? The CA Sec. of State?

Got it in one Moogs.

poor Moogs
Again, "heresay" crap by you. As a beneficiary of my family trust, I have beneficiary interest in several homes.

Again, just repeating what you have already said, if you have any complaints, you have only yourself to blame.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Said: Rant on Moogs, Hansen is a whack job, and none of his stuff is either valid or enforceable.
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He hired an attorney to enforce his liens. After that, you haven't heard from him anymore & his website was taken down, but his liens are still intact & still filed. No charges have been made against him. There is more questions than answers. Isn't that peculiar.

It's your opinion he is a whack job.

mogel007 said...

So you want me to believe that a "publicity exercise" means to write poorly written phamphlets?
LOL

mogel007 said...

Notarial said: No one in their right, or other mind is going to buy that nonsense, simply for the reason that it is nonsense, and any attempt by the dim duo to sell or otherwise dispose of them will just add another layer of criminal charges to the ones they are already facing.
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So were all of those "subprime mortgages" that were purchased by governments, corporations, pension funds, and investors, those not in their right minds too? Don't you think there are plenty of buyers NOT IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS to carry on business as usual?

How many lenders or heads of banks facing charges NOW for all of their fraud & peddling of paper? Seems like a pretty good risk to me for all they did. The FBI doesn't have the manpower to handle all of that fraud & bring all of those responsible people to justice.

The Dorean paper is just a drop in the bucket compared to all of the fraud that basically was ignored. The answer to all of that fraud was a "government bailout", not how many more prisons can be build to bring all of those responsible to justice, or how many more thousands of people can we hire to bring those to justice.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "You will also note that they are no longer in print for precisely the reason that they were poorly done."
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No, they are no longer in print because THEY TOLD THE TRUTH.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "I don’t really care what you believe."
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Obviously YOU DO. Otherwise, you wouldn't keep responding to me or posting on this blog. Until the day comes THAT YOU TOTALLY IGNORE ME, I WON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T CARE WHAT I BELIEVE. Go tell another lie. LOL

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: Never said I was a currency trader, but if there is a significant drop in the US dollar, everything else will follow.
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Everything else will follow when? Follow in the same direction always? When will it happen? Immediately, 2 months from then, 6 months from then? Your statement is meaningless & of no value to a currency trader.

mogel007 said...

Oh really? Who decides "legal insufficiency"? The CA Sec. of State?

Got it in one Moogs.
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So it must be that the CA Sec. of State HASN'T DECIDED YET, SINCE THE LIENS ARE STILL THERE. MUST BE TOO DIFFICULT OF A THING FOR THE SECRETARY TO FIGURE OUT OBVIOUSLY. Must be the Alsup trials, criminal & civil, wasn't enough evidence for the Sec. of State. Go figure?????????

OR ONE CAN SAY THE SEC. OF STATE HAS DECIDED THEY ARE VALID SINCE THE LIENS ARE STILL PRESENT.

No need for a trial then!!!! The secretary of State has the power to dismiss the liens as you say. Wonder why that HASN'T BEEN DONE YET?
Oh, I know, the Sec. of State is MUCH TOO BUSY TO WORRY ABOUT SUCH TRIVIAL THINGS. LOL

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent Read about "apparent authority" & "implied authority" in reference to the topic of " power of attorney". You're the one that doesn't know what you are talking about. There is plenty of law on what I am saying.

You know you are making a big deal out of what the Dorean Group did. They never claimed "general power of attorney" over the banks. They never claimed that the bank signed documents for them as proof of their authority to cancel mortgages. They only claimed "specific power of attorney" & that "specific power of attorney" only applied to a specific amount of time & only had reference to specific acts needed to be done for their clients after the banks ratified the actions of the Principals of the Dorean Group through their default of not answering the challenge & presentment. Also read the part about "ratification" too.
See:


http://books.google.com/books?id=Zao8I6DPprsC&pg=PA529&lpg=PA529&dq=implied+power+of+attorney&source=web&ots=_jvz_mZj40&sig=d8ExzDnvTNYFI1gJypSeUYajsgU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA529,M1

No matter how hard you try, their acts WERE NOT CRIMINAL.

mogel007 said...

Here is the complete link again:

http://books.google.com/
books?id=Zao8I6DPprsC&pg
=PA529&lpg=PA529&dq=implied+power+of+
attorney&source=web&ots=
_jvz_mZj40&sig=
d8ExzDnvTNYFI1gJypSeUYajsgU&hl=en&sa=
X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA529,M1

mogel007 said...

The third attempt is the charm:

http://books.google.com/
books?id=Zao8I6DPprsC&pg
=PA529&lpg=PA529&dq=implied+power+of+
attorney&source=web&ots
=_jvz_mZj40&sig=d8Exz
DnvTNYFI1gJypSeUYajsgU
&hl=en&sa
=X&oi=book_result
&resnum=2&ct=result

mogel007 said...

Better yet, do a google search & type in "implied power of attorney". You get over a half a million hits. Click on "Business Law Today, the Essentials", which is the 2nd listing. Read the whole thing.

mogel007 said...

Notarial said: "Go ask a real economist or banking instructor."
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I've quoted "real economists" & famous people before or "real experts" before. You ignored those quotes & never made any intelligent response to them. I'm not going to copy & paste them again.

"Asking" OR A "REQUEST FOR VALIDATION OF THE DEBT" didn't work for the Dorean Group EITHER. They WERE IGNORED. Apparently the lenders couldn't find these economists either you are speaking of.

mogel007 said...

Notarial dissent said: Again, just repeating what you have already said, if you have any complaints, you have only yourself to blame.
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Fine, post exactly what I said, & I'll put it up next to what you said, & we'll see the difference. I await.

notorial dissent said...

and Moogie’s off and running at the mouth again
So were all of those "subprime mortgages" that were purchased by governments, corporations, pension funds, and investors, those not in their right minds too?

I personally never thought it was a bright idea, but then I wasn’t consulted either, doesn’t alter the fact that at least in theory they were legitimate items, and at law they are legal and valid, whereas the Dorean crap is at law and fact fraud.


As to what the CA Sec of State does or doesn’t do, I have no idea. They may well be waiting for the Feds to finish the latest round of indictments, and may well be waiting for a Federal Court order to expunge them, I don’t know, you seem to think the judiciary should move on your time table, have news for you, it doesn’t and won’t.

more Moogie delusion
No matter how hard you try, their acts WERE NOT CRIMINAL.

Actually, I'm not trying hard at all, I don't have to, as apparently the Federal civil and criminal courts disagree with you, as do the state courts who have taken up Dorean matters, which have all so far to date lost whenever brought in to court. Imagine that, Moogie confused about something.

and still more
They only claimed "specific power of attorney" & that "specific power of attorney" only applied to a specific amount of time & only had reference to specific acts needed to be done for their clients after the banks ratified the actions of the Principals of the Dorean Group through their default of not answering the challenge & presentment. Also read the part about "ratification" too.

Very good Moogs, pity you don’t actually understand anything you have read. Claiming a “specific power of attorney” implies a specific grant of authority, of which there was none, therefore fraud. There is no such thing as power of attorney by default, and ratification implies that the lenders accepted the actions of their presumed agents, which they did not, so again fraud. Nice try at a wiggle, but failed again.

Moogie being unintentionally humorous
I've quoted "real economists" & famous people before or "real experts" before.

Real, means someone who isn’t on constant medication for delusional behavior or that real professionals don’t laugh and point at, and so far Moogs, you haven’t accomplished that either.

more Moogie confusion
"Asking" OR A "REQUEST FOR VALIDATION OF THE DEBT" didn't work for the Dorean Group EITHER. They WERE IGNORED. Apparently the lenders couldn't find these economists either you are speaking of.

There being no legal or business requirement to respond to nonsense, they didn’t. It was nonsense then, it is nonsense now, and has no legal standing or value whatsoever.

still more Moogie mistakes
Fine, post exactly what I said, & I'll put it up next to what you said, & we'll see the difference. I await.

You’re the one who was going on about your trials and tribulations with your trailer, if I made the obvious assumptions, you’re young you’ll get over it, but your actions belie your protestations.