Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

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mogel007 said...

Dr. Caligari: Don't think it's fair to equate Terry Trussell with the case filed by NLA. How do you feel that the two cases are similar? Terry Trussell was charged with crimes. Has John Darash been charged with any crimes? Terry Trussell allegedly was charged with interfering with a grand jury process. How is that comparable with this Landmark Case? It's apples and oranges.

persistancepays said...

be careful when filling leans that may make you get skinny:


Pinellas judge in foreclosure case sues homeowner for 'false, fictitious, and fraudulent' filings (of liens)

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/pinellas-judge-presiding-over-foreclosure-case-sues-homeowner/2287784

A Pinellas circuit judge presiding over a foreclosure action is suing the homeowner in that case, claiming she filed "false, fictitious and fraudulent" documents against the judge in his own court.

The lawsuit stems from the 2013 foreclosure of a Clearwater home at 3155 Hyde Park Drive in the Countryside area near McMullen-Booth Road. Homeowners Leslie and Martin Armstrong stopped making mortgage payments in October 2011, according to court records.

Circuit Judge Thomas Minkoff ruled in favor of Wells Fargo on Sept. 4.

Later that month, Leslie Armstrong, 58, filed records against Minkoff in federal court, outlining in a document titled "Criminal Complaint" a list of allegations against the judge and the bank. She demanded a jury trial in the foreclosure, Armstrong wrote, but "Judge Minkoff conspired with Wells Fargo Bank and the trespassing attorneys to steal my property."

The judge and the bank also violated "U.S. constitutional laws," her complaint says. Among them: "No law-abiding person shall be forced to do anything he does not want to do" and "No controlling agency shall harass a U.S. citizen."

She also claimed liens against the judge, the bank and the bank's attorneys, calculating that they owed a total of $2.4 million.

That kind of legal language is similar to documents used by the sovereign citizen movement, whose adherents believe that federal, state and local laws — especially when it comes to paying taxes — don't apply to them.

"The documents, with their numerous references to 'natural law,' the Constitution, and an array of imaginary crimes, do appear to be the work of a sovereign citizen," said Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremism. "It's possible the person who filed them doesn't adhere to all the ideas of sovereign citizens, however," he said in an email.

Armstrong, who still lives at her Clearwater home, could not be reached for comment.

The federal case she filed didn't get far. It was dismissed in June, records show.

Armstrong, however, filed the same documents in her foreclosure case in circuit court, which remains open after she filed for bankruptcy. But the judge was not amused. In a court order, Minkoff called them "improper, frivolous, and unauthorized."

"Due to her abuse of the judicial process and wasting of judicial resources, the court bars Defendant Leslie Armstrong from filing any further documents in this case unless represented by an attorney," he wrote.

Pinellas-Pasco Judicial Circuit spokesman Stephen Thompson said Minkoff filed the lawsuit because the records could "impugn his reputation as a judge."

persistancepays said...

Minkoff asked the Pinellas clerk of court to remove the offending filings from the record. In the lawsuit filed in Pinellas court on July 8, he explained that Armstrong's filings affect him due to the "false appearance of a secured debt or an outstanding lien" against him.

Minkoff is being represented by an attorney from the Office of the Attorney General, which, under Florida law, is authorized to represent public officials in state court to defend them against false liens.

Pinellas Clerk of Court Ken Burke, who is also named in the lawsuit, said the civil action is a necessary step for the records to be expunged.

"I have no authority to seal records," he said. "I need some type of direction from the court to do so. This lawsuit would give me that type of direction."

Contact Laura C. Morel at lmorel@tampabay.com. Follow @lauracmorel.

Pinellas judge in foreclosure case sues homeowner for 'false, fictitious, and fraudulent' filings 08/02/16 [Last modified: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 9:34pm]

persistancepays said...

"She also claimed liens against the judge, the bank and the bank's attorneys, calculating that they owed a total of $2.4 million.

persistancepays said...

says it all: SPLC = ZONIST

Dr. Caligari said...

Dr. Caligari: Don't think it's fair to equate Terry Trussell with the case filed by NLA. How do you feel that the two cases are similar? Terry Trussell was charged with crimes. Has John Darash been charged with any crimes? Terry Trussell allegedly was charged with interfering with a grand jury process. How is that comparable with this Landmark Case? It's apples and oranges.

One of the things Terry Trussell was convicted of was "simulating legal process" for attempting to file in court "presentments" issued by his "common law grand jury", because a "common law grand jury" has no legal power to charge anyone with anything. Darash is apparently doing the same. He hasn't been prosecuted yet, but he would be advised to be careful.

mogel007 said...

First of all Terry Trussell does not know how to defend himself and was begging for a lawyer to help him and for the longest time couldn't even find a lawyer to help him. I don't know if he obtained competent counsel or not, probably not. If you don't know what you are doing, US Attorneys will walk all over you which apparently that is what happened.

John Darash is smart and careful enough to keep the statutory courts out of his business unlike Terry Trussell. A court of record does have power to indict. A common law grand jury judgment or indictment comes from a "court of record". And the court of record IS A SUPERIOR COURT TO THE STATUTORY COURTS and the voice of a common law grand jury is FINAL AND NOT APPEALABLE.

COURTS OF RECORD PROCEED ACCORDING TO THE COURSE OF COMMON LAW 140
“Courts of Record and Courts not of Record the former being those whose acts and judicial proceedings are enrolled, or recorded, for a perpetual memory and testimony, and which have power to fine or imprison for contempt. Error lies to their judgments, and they generally possess a seal. Courts not of record are those of inferior dignity, which have no power to fine or imprison, and in which the proceedings are not enrolled 145 or recorded". 3 Bl. Comm. 24; 3 Steph. Comm. 383; The Thomas Fletcher, C.C.Ga., 24 F. 481; Ex parte Thistleton, 52 Cal 225; Erwin v. U.S., D.C.Ga., 37 F. 488, 2 L.R.A. 229; Heininger v. Davis, 96 Ohio St. 205, 117 N.E. 229, 231.
"A Court of Record is a judicial tribunal having attributes and exercising functions independently of the person of the magistrate designated generally to hold it, and 150 proceeding according to the course of common law, its acts and proceedings being enrolled for a perpetual memorial". Jones v. Jones, 188 Mo.App. 220, 175 S.W. 227,
MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF JURISDICTIONPage 7 of 10

229; Ex parte Gladhill, 8 Metc. Mass., 171, per Shaw, C.J. See, also, Ledwith v. Rosalsky, 244 N.Y. 406, 155 N.E. 688, 689.
“Decisions of an inferior court are subject to collateral attack. In other words, in a 155 superior court one may sue an inferior court directly, rather than resort to appeal to an appellate court. Decision of a court of record may not be appealed. It is binding on ALL other courts. However, no statutory or constitutional court (whether it be an appellate or supreme court) can second guess the judgment of a court of record. The judgment of a court of record whose jurisdiction is final, is as conclusive on all the world as the 160 judgment of this court would be. It is as conclusive on this court as it is on other courts. It puts an end to inquiry concerning the fact, by deciding it." Ex parte Watkins, 3 Pet., at 202-203. cited by SCHNECKLOTH v. BUSTAMONTE, 412 U.S. 218, 255 (1973).
A court of record is a superior court. A court not of record is an inferior court. Inferior courts are those whose jurisdiction is limited and special and whose proceedings are not 165 according to the course of the common law. Criminal courts proceed according to statutory law. Jurisdiction and procedure is defined by statute. Likewise, civil courts and admiralty courts proceed according to statutory law. Any court proceeding according to statutory law is not a court of record (which only proceeds according to common law); it is an inferior court. 170
“The only inherent difference ordinarily recognized between superior and inferior courts is that there is a presumption in favor of the validity of the judgments of the former, none in favor of those of the latter, and that a superior court may be shown not to have had power to render a particular judgment by reference to its record. Note, however, that a ‘superior court’ is the name of a particular court. But when a court acts by virtue of a 175 special statute conferring jurisdiction in a certain class of cases, it is a court of inferior or limited jurisdiction for the time being, no matter what its ordinary status may be.

mogel007 said...

Amendment V: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless in a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury. It is in effect a 4th branch of government "governed" and administered to directly by and in behalf of the American people."

The jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both law and fact." Oliver Wendell Homes, US Supreme Court Justice 1902.

Justice Scalia: the grand jury requires no authorization from it's constituting court to initiate an investigation. United States v. John H. Williams Jr.

There is no statute or procedural rule that prevents people from convening grand juries.

The grand jury's functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate wrong doings, AND IN THE MANNER IN WHICH THAT POWER IS EXERCISED." United States v. R. Enterprises

mogel007 said...

John Darash has sent a group email from National Liberty Alliance.

On December 14, 2016 the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury filed a Common Law Action in the United States District Court for the Northern District of New York in Albany, NY, Case NO: 1:16-CV-1490 presiding Magistrate Lawrence E. Kahn for a Redress of Grievances serving the United States Supreme Court, United States Congress, the President of the United States and all fifty Governors on January 20, 2017.
Starting on Monday, January 23, 2017 we initiated a faxing and email campaign sending all filed documents to over 4000 media outlets, U.S. Supreme Court, US Congress, President Trump, Federal Judiciary, Governors (50), all State Legislators, State Judiciary, Sheriffs, US Marshall, FBI, US Attorney, Attorney General and State District Attorneys.
Under the same case number 1:16-CV-1490 WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE SEEKING AND FILING OF INDICTMENTS AND NUMEROUS TRIALS BY "UNTAINTED" JURIES AGAINST JUDGES, CLERKS, ATTORNEYS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS AND OTHERS FOR SUBVERSION, EXTORTION, RICO AND FOR WARING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION.

This is a Landmark Case written to educate and inform the People and our servants in order to preserve our Constitution through the enforcement of the Supremacy Clause a/k/a Common Law. A list of Filed Documents can be found at www.nationallibertyalliance.org/docket for download.
JOIN US on Monday, January 23, 2017 at 9PM EST for Q&A about the case and how we expect to keep this case proceeding under the Common Law WITHOUT JUDICIARY INTERFERENCE.

persistancepays said...

so how does this all affect the dg or does it??

Lawer wants $ 1,700.00 to get me out.... said...

How do I get a hold of either Kurt or Scott ?
I have a family trust they got me into and now i need to get out of the trust

thanks

mogel007 said...

Persistancepays:

So how does this affect the DG? They already have an administrative habeaus corpus judgment in their favor for their release by the UUSCLGJ (Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury)
This judgment in essence calls for the release of Kurt & Scott and certain Defendants are already in default as they have not released them. When public officials like Judges don't honor what has been already decreed that's treason. It's up to the Sheriff or Marshalls to follow the law, when called upon to do so, and included in that oath to honor & uphold the Constitution, they must uphold their oath which includes following the Constitution, and the Constitution already establishes the legitimacy of Common Law and Common Law Grand Juries set up for the protection of We the People, and that principle has been already upheld by the Supreme Court. So this case is going to reinforce those principles, and also help the Dorean Group go free since all cases that the UUSCLGJ have ruled upon, including Kurt & Scott's habeas corpus case will be an appendage added to this one one Landmark Case. Except this time some teeth is going to come with it as I already answered the question: |"Under the same case number 1:16-CV-1490 WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE SEEKING AND FILING OF INDICTMENTS AND NUMEROUS TRIALS BY "UNTAINTED" JURIES AGAINST JUDGES, CLERKS, ATTORNEYS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS AND OTHERS FOR SUBVERSION, EXTORTION, RICO AND FOR WARING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION."

mogel007 said...

Dear No Name: Isn't that like a lawyer to gouge you $1700 to do a few papers that you could do yourself? You don't need a lawyer to fire two trustees, give notice to two trustees and appoint new trustees to sign the asset or assets back over to yourself. And Kurt & Scott did not get you into the trust, you agreed to form a trust, so the Dorean Presentment could be sent out in your behalf by them to the bank. Take a little responsibility for your own decisions and actions. Well let's see, both are in the federal prison system. Just look them up under the Bureau of Prisons and put in a request to be on their mailing list, and send them an email or snail mail letter. There's no guarantees they will write you back though.

mogel007 said...

The below article proves that since 1991 Federal Judges are not required to make an oath to defend the Constitution of the united States, and we know that the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, and all judgments and law must adhere to its principles. Since all United States Federal Court judgments since 1991 do not comply with the Judges oath to defend the Constitution, because the oath they take does not require them to defend the Constitution, then likewise all such judgments are void, which means the judgment that put Kurt & Scott in prison can easily be overturned, which also means they must be
freed immediately in the name of justice on a motion to the court giving these facts and proving that the Federal Court had no subject matter jurisdiction, nor personal jurisdiction over Kurt & Scott. Here is the link to the full article:

https://supremecourtcase.wordpress.com/author/supremecourtcase


Judge Posner said:
“‘I see absolutely no value to a judge of spending decades, years, months, weeks, day, hours, minutes, or seconds studying the Constitution, the history of its enactment, its amendments, and its implementation (across the centuries — well, just a little more than two centuries, and of course less for many of the amendments),’ he wrote. . . .” The Washington Times, quoting United States Circuit Judge Richard Posner in “Judge Richard Posner: ‘No value’ in studying the U.S. Constitution,” June 27, 2016,http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/27/richard-posner-no-value-in-studying-us-constitution/ (accessed August 4, 2016).

The reason Judge Posner can get away with such apparently treasonous remarks about the Constitution without risking impeachment is that he neither is bound by oath or affirmation to support it nor has any duties under it to discharge or perform nor has any duty to preserve, protect, support, or defend it—only to carry out the duties assigned to him by his for-profit corporate employer, the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation, “a Federal corporation,” 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15), doing business as “United States,” id., and managed by the Congress of the (corporate) “United States.”

persistancepays said...

LOL!!!

Former Fed Employee Sentenced For Running Bitcoin Mining Software On A Fed Computer

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/former-fed-employee-sentenced-running-bitcoin-mining-software-fed-computer


In an amusing twist on the "fiat vs digital" money debate, a former Federal Reserve employee who tried to fuse the two, was sentenced to 12 months’ probation and fined $5,000 for installing unauthorized software on a Fed server to connect with a bitcoin network, the Office of the Fed's Inspector General said.



lllllllloooooooooooool!!! trying to mine bitcoins on FED puters!! yo can make dis sheet up!!!!

persistancepays said...

betr if yo jus prin moony oof thick hair!!!

persistancepays said...

X-22 REPORT:

Is Trump Setting His Sights On The Federal Reserve To Expose It? -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSNpUzsWjY

mogel007 said...

That's quite a real stretch, besides Pres. Trump is pro-bank.

persistancepays said...

JUST EFT YOU DEBTS!!!!!!


http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2012/04/electronic-fund-transfer-overview.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StopThePirates+%28Stop+The+Pirates%29

Dr. Caligari said...

So how does this affect the DG? They already have an administrative habeaus corpus judgment in their favor for their release by the UUSCLGJ (Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury)
This judgment in essence calls for the release of Kurt & Scott and certain Defendants are already in default as they have not released them.


How did that work out? Are Kurt and Scott out yet?

persistancepays said...

who is gong to enforce the UUSCLGJ judgment?? ie, letting them go free?

mogel007 said...

Nla has made a list of law enforcement
that is on the side of the Constitution
and who support the UUSCLGJ
and I suppose it would have to be law
Enforcement to do this to uphold
this judgment like a sheriff or
US Marshall. However it appears
that there is a reluctance right
now to take that route. Other
remedies less confrontational seem to be being considered. Timing is everything.
Kurt and Scott both have their
own remedies also.

persistancepays said...

"Other remedies less confrontational seem to be being considered. Timing is everything."

true, we only have so many lifetimes to receive the benefits of our labors.

timing is everything. $100MM 200 years from now is useless for anyone alive today.

persistancepays said...

all deeze peppls draw leans w/o a lethal basis and got trow in jale.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/18/records-sovereign-citizens-waged-war-paper-terror/98049782/

be carful ho yo leans. to munch to one side an yo could get barred

persistancepays said...

the govt. is gettin desparate now.. they gone afta all da soveen pepple sitadels.

persistancepays said...

soon canadial to also hand out 'free $$$$'


https://qz.com/914247/canada-is-betting-on-a-universal-basic-income-to-help-cities-gutted-by-manufacturing-job-loss/

Canada is betting on a universal basic income to help cities gutted by manufacturing job loss

Dr. Caligari said...

ATTEMPTED JAIL BREAK
Four taken into custody; claim sovereignty
By Julia M. Dendinger, News-Bulletin Assistant Editor
Feb 10, 2017

LOS LUNAS — An attempt to liberate a man held at the Valencia County Detention Center last week ended with the inmate staying in his cell and four additional people being arrested and charged.

On Wednesday, Feb. 1, the U.S. Marshals Service brought Andrew Pankotai, 35, to VCDC to await extradition on a bench warrant out of Pennsylvania. Pankotai, and his wife, Dixie Pankotai, 34, have lived in Belen for nearly a year after he allegedly absconded from Pennsylvania after pleading guilty to one felony count of burglary.

When the date of his sentencing came on Dec. 30, Pankotai consulted with his lawyer, didn’t like what he heard and left the courtroom, county Sheriff Robert Wolfe told The Daily Item, a Pennsylvania newspaper.

Valencia County Detention Center Warden Joe Chavez said he started receiving faxes the day after Pankotai was arrested from a “Continental United States Superior Court” judge, saying Pankotai was being unlawfully held and he was to be immediately released.

“It was a pretty decent document but you don’t know who is sending what,” Chavez said.

A second fax came through from the same organization, naming three individuals who were traveling to the jail to retrieve Pankotai and would have the proper credentials to retrieve him. Chavez contacted the marshal who brought the inmate in to verify the request to release Pankotai was legitimate.

The response was the “court” was a group similar to sovereign citizen groups, which believe local laws and ordinances do not apply to them, and to ignore the fax.

“They said (these groups) try this kind of thing but to keep him in custody,” the warden said.

Chavez then received a phone call indicating the group referred to in the second fax would be at the detention center shortly to take Pankotai. He contacted the marshal again, asking someone from the agency come to the jail in case they showed up.

“So, were they really coming? Was this a case of the left hand not talking to the right hand?” Chavez said. “I wanted (the U.S. Marshals) there to validate their credentials.”

Marshals and New Mexico State Police officers went to the jail and about 10 minutes later, four individuals arrived.

“Everyone was surprised. From what I understand, no one ever shows up,” the warden said.

Two men with sidearms, dressed in polo shirts with official-looking badges embroidered on them, and two women in street clothes entered the jail through the public entrance.

Chavez instructed them to go to the rear of the facility and drive in through the sally port to pick up the detainee, where they were greeted by U.S. Marshals and NMSP, and taken into custody.

“They followed directives; there was no resistance,” Chavez said. “They were arrested and charged.”

persistancepays said...

How Tennessee Could Be About To Start A Constitutional Crisis

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/how-tennessee-could-be-about-start-constitutional-crisis

Feb 23, 2017 5:25 AM
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The State Senate of Tennessee has laid the legislative groundwork for something that hasn't been done in the United States of America since the Constitutional Convention of 1787 in Philadelphia. With a vote of 27-3, the Tennessee Senate has voted to call a "convention of the states" in order to draft and pass an amendment to the Constitution that would require balanced budgets to be passed every year.

For those who are little fuzzy on their high school U.S. history knowledge, the Tennessean explains that the U.S. Constitution can be amended in two ways. The first would require a two-thirds majority vote in both chambers of Congress, an unlikely outcome in today's hyper-partisan political arena. The second, on the other hand, requires that two-thirds of the states (34 in total) pass a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention.

There are two ways to propose amendments to the Constitution. The first and more traditional method is through a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. Then the amendment is sent to the state legislatures, where it needs ratification by three-fourths or 38 states in order to become law. Nearly all 27 amendments have followed this path.



But the Constitution also provides a second, more populist path to amending the document. If two-thirds or 34 states pass a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention, delegates from all 50 states will meet to draft an amendment. This is what the Tennessee lawmakers are calling for in their resolution.

Of course, calls for a convention to pass a balanced budget amendment started in the 1970s and have failed each time. That said, with Republicans now controlling 32 state legislatures, this latest effort initiated by Tennessee seems to have the best chance of succeeding so far.

And while there have been close calls for Constitutional Conventions before, each time Congress has acted preemptively to stave off the need for a convention. In 1911, for example, 28 states of the required 32 passed a resolution calling for direct election of Senators before Congress intervened and drafted the Seventeenth Amendment instead.

(cot'd at article address above)

OMO said...
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OMO said...

"With a vote of 27-3, the Tennessee Senate has voted to call a "convention of the states" in order to draft and pass an amendment to the Constitution that would require balanced budgets to be passed every year."

___________________

Balanced federal reserve notes? Sorry, but it's not possible. It's not even constitutional for the states to accept federal reserve notes as a tender of payment of debt.

OMO said...

I've heard that two states have pending legislation to make gold and silver coins legal tender when in fact the U.S. constitution prohibits them from doing so, to wit:

https://www.infogristle.com/dave-wilber/fools-gold-is-green.php

"... Legal tender was prohibited in Art. 1, Sec 10 with the words: “No state shall pass any law impairing the obligations of contracts” AND the 5th amendment words: “… nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." For an accurate description of that period of history, please see The Miracle On Main Street by F. Tupper Saussy. This book has the solution to our problem with inflation.

OMO said...

No person or agency, government or private, shall determine what anyone must accept as Lawful Tender! To wit: “No state shall … pass any … Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts …”


“...That all the gold and silver coins which shall be by law be current as money within the United States.” Coin Act April 2, 1792 Sec. 11.

"The terms 'lawful money' or 'lawful money of the United States' shall be construed to mean gold and silver coin of the United States." Title 12 USC, Sec. 152.

OMO said...

The laws for making gold and silver coin a lawful tender are already on the books. See above. The states need not do anything but do what they were always required to do.

"That all the gold and silver coins which shall be by law be current as money within the United States." Coin Act April 2, 1792 Sec. 11.

OMO said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGsFK52L0lk

Money expert Merrill Jenkins

At 7:08:

Q: Do you think we ought to have set limits on how much money will exist in the country for the next 50 years?

Merrill Jenkins: Oh no ma'am. I insist that what we have to do is gradually abolish the legal tender acts which caused this problem to come into being.

persistancepays said...

the currency issue will soon become a moot poit as bitcoin and gold/sliver continues to rise in value currency will take a huge fall

OMO said...

ICEMAN Wim hof

I tried this and could only hold my breath for one minute. Looks like I need to breath more deeply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Ypyk57ogE

OMO said...

Another state (AZ) wanting to define gold, silver, and other precious metals as legal tender. In other words, they want to determine what you must accept as lawful tender, in violation of art. 1 sec. 10. “No state shall … pass any … Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts …”

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/march/05/arizona-challenges-the-fed-s-money-monopoly/

Audit the Fed is not the only focus of the growing anti-Fed movement. For example, this Wednesday the Arizona Senate Finance and Rules Committees will consider legislation (HB 2014) officially defining gold, silver, and other precious metals as legal tender. The bill also exempts transactions in precious metals from state capital gains taxes, thus ensuring that people are not punished by the taxman for rejecting Federal Reserve notes in favor of gold or silver. Since inflation increases the value of precious metals, these taxes give the government one more way to profit from the Federal Reserve’s currency debasement.

OMO said...

While the state of AZ is at it, why don't they include bitcoin and e-gold as legal tender. That ought speed things up. Everything is digital anyway. What is Walmart or Target going to do with physical gold or silver when banks won't accept it?

persistancepays said...




3-9-2017

Trump Plants Clues In His Office To Let The Central Bankers Know Their Fate

https://youtu.be/DatEqaeDFc0


persistancepays said...

da jug is up!!!!!

persistancepays said...

no mo printin doolaz of tin hair!!!

persistancepays said...


Trump Plants Clues In His Office To Let The Central Bankers Know Their Fate

https://youtu.be/DatEqaeDFc0

clue is that he has hung a yuuuge portait of andrew, jacks son in the oral office.

and yo rember that jacks son, not da fahdder, trie to fite the fedreal reverse bank.

an yo no wha hoppens to dose dat do?

OMO said...

Celente says the economy has improved...

Jeff Rense says (at 22:25) that he remembers very clearly that Trump talked about how all Americans who earned less than %50,000 or less would no longer pay income tax.

[If the income tax (for those earning less than $50,000) is taken away the price of goods and services will simply go up to make up the difference. Granted people will have more control over their spending, but my guess is that people would start to look elsewhere (like underground markets) for their goods and services.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7ohfRBfB4

OMO said...

Erika McKenzie... she was taking a class 4 narcotic (diet pill) that was only supposed to be taken for 3 months. The effect of having taken it for 9 years took its toll on her body. Really good story:

8:25 "It wasn't about just me, Erika. It was about each and every one of us being that very rock--that we affect each and every person, even if we never meet them."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHTWyRzij8

persistancepays said...

rember in the past how they used to make a big issue of the so called debt ceiling expiring when they always knew that it wouold pass eventually.

notice how now, as of yesterday, the debt ceiling has actually expired and not even a peep in any media but the net and its really even pretty quiet there.

could it be, this time, with trump in office, that it will actually expire without being renewed?

meaning that by summer, the govt, will actually really be out of ca$h?

dont bet agaisnt this happening.

trump is a wild card for sure. doing this will also allow him to revamp the whole govt to his own suit.

persistancepays said...

also know as sheet hitting the fans fo reel!!!

OMO said...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/09/mnuchin-calls-for-congress-to-raise-federal-debt-limit.html


"...While Congress has often delayed action until the last minute, it has always approved an increase in the debt limit rather than run the risk of a default."

persistancepays said...

REALIST NEWS - Jim Willie: We’re AT THE DOOR of the Global Currency Reset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u12NpR_tOzo

persistancepays said...

eat some eye racky dinners!!!!

persistancepays said...

they b tasty!!

OMO said...

David Rockefeller dead at 101 - good riddance

http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/david-rockefeller-last-generation-family-dies-101/rfmZvLVpawCwHt8lTccREP/

mogel007 said...

The article on David Rockefeller was quite
complimentary. Wheres all the dirt
on this man? He lived to the ripe
age of 101 so he was doing some
things right. But good riddance is
probably appropriate.

persistancepays said...

he love to file his folders wit his feet....he was a big time pedal file an now dat he gone, yuou will see many more exposed, and the fake news tv media also love to file they noose reports with they feet, they big time pedal filers too, some really big tv news names you will see

persistancepays said...

frum anthter blaaaaagh....

regrading the dinar RV:
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regarding the diner RV.

it should now become apparent to all, that the RV does not hinge on malki,or shappy, or the U.S., IMF or burn hankys, or et's or aleins, or ???

NO!

IT SHOULD NOW BE OBVIOUS THAT THESE ARE ALL FALSE LEADS ON THE RV.

THERE IS NOW ONLY ONE (MAN) CAPABLE OF CONTROLLING THAT EXACT DATE OF THE RV.

AND YOU SHOULD ALL KNOW WHO/M THAT (MAN) IS....

HE IS A VERY POWERFUL MAN.

INDEED, HE IS THE MOST POWERFUL MAN ON THE PLANET.

NO, IT IS NOT da pressadint.

IT IS A BIBICAL MAN WHO SITS ON 7 HILLS AND VESTED IN THE ROYAL COLORS OR PURPLE AND GOLD.

HAVE ANY IDEA YET?

ONLY THIS (MAN) CAN GIVE THE OK TO PULL THE RV TRIGGER.

OF COURSE, HE WILL NOT BE CREDITED WITH DOING SO AND IN FACT CANNOT BE, BUT MUST REMAIN IN THE BACKGROUND.

OMO said...

Mogel said: "The article on David Rockefeller was quite
complimentary. Wheres all the dirt
on this man? He lived to the ripe
age of 101 so he was doing some
things right. But good riddance is
probably appropriate."
_______________________________________

He had the money to live well. But it's doubtful he ate well, it shows on his 101-year-old face.

The bankers have been manipulating life since god knows when. Manipulation is all around us. Even the David Icke forum has recently been manipulated to make it "private." lol

https://www.davidicke.com/article/406771/406771

OMO said...

Check out this giant chicken!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6oHigzVvPw

persistancepays said...

Borrower and Creditor MUST Give Notice and Opportunity to Cure before Suing

Refer to Sandoval v. Ronald R. Wolfe & Assocs., P.L., 2017 WL 244111 (S.D. Fla. 2017) dismissal order

Jennifer Sandoval bought a Florida home with money she borrowed from Suntrust Bank and secured the debt with a mortgage. She later obtained a loan modification, and later defaulted on the loan. The creditor hired law firm Ronald R. Wolf & Associates to sue Sandoval for breach of contract and to foreclose the loan. Sandoval hired a lawyer who sent a Qualified Written Request letter to Suntrust, and Suntrust responded with a letter explaining the requirements for reinstatement. Wolf charged fees for the reinstatement to bring the loan current and dismiss the foreclosure. Sandoval sued Suntrust and Wolf in the Southern District of Florida US District Court for violating RESPA, FCCPA, and FDCPA (Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, Florida Consumer Collection Practices Act, and Fair Debt Collection Practices Act).

Suntrust filed a motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim for which the court could grant relief. The court dismissed the case for two reasons:

Suntrust did not violate any of those laws in the manner Sandoval alleged; and
Most importantly, Sandoval had failed to give Suntrust a notice of grievance and an opportunity to cure it prior to suing Suntrust.

persistancepays said...

" failure to state a claim for which the court could grant relief.."


"ok, jug beans, so in ordo to cure dis, yo need to gift me da hose fo free, got it??"

OMO said...

First mistake alleged is that she received money from Suntrust. There is no money-- only digits and signatures.

OMO said...

Please don't tell me this is true. Must be his big D.

http://nypost.com/2017/03/25/huma-abedin-is-giving-marriage-with-anthony-weiner-another-try/

persistancepays said...

Borrower and Creditor MUST Give Notice and Opportunity to Cure before Suing

Refer to Sandoval v. Ronald R. Wolfe & Assocs., P.L., 2017 WL 244111 (S.D. Fla. 2017) dismissal order

Jennifer Sandoval bought a Florida home with money she borrowed from Suntrust Bank and secured the debt with a mortgage. She later obtained a loan modification, and later defaulted on the loan. The creditor hired law firm Ronald R. Wolf & Associates to sue Sandoval for breach of contract and to foreclose the loan. Sandoval hired a lawyer who sent a Qualified Written Request letter to Suntrust, and Suntrust responded with a letter explaining the requirements for reinstatement. Wolf charged fees for the reinstatement to bring the loan current and dismiss the foreclosure. Sandoval sued Suntrust and Wolf in the Southern District of Florida US District Court for violating RESPA, FCCPA, and FDCPA (Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, Florida Consumer Collection Practices Act, and Fair Debt Collection Practices Act).

Suntrust filed a motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim for which the court could grant relief. The court dismissed the case against Suntrust with prejudice, and then amended the dismissal. The reader should take note of three important factors in the issue:

Suntrust did not violate any of those laws in the manner Sandoval alleged; and
Most importantly, Sandoval had failed to allege in her compliant that she had given Suntrust the statutory and contractually required notice of grievance and opportunity to cure prior to suing Suntrust.
The court amended its dismissal order as follows (emphasis added):

"The Court’s January 19, 2017 Dismissal Order is AMENDED as follows: While the FDCPA and RESPA claims against SunTrust are dismissed with prejudice, the FCCPA against SunTrust is dismissed without prejudice, with leave to provide mandatory pre-suit notice to SunTrust of the alleged FCCPA violation and an opportunity to cure, prior to initiating a lawsuit against SunTrust that attempts to state a claim for a violation of the FCCPA. Because the dismissal of the FCCPA claim is without prejudice to Plaintiff attempting to comply with the requirements of the preceding paragraph, Defendant SunTrust’s Motion for Entry of Final Judgment Pursuant to Rule 54(b) [DE 69] is DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE."

Thus it becomes clear that Sandoval has no more opportunity in this matter against Suntrust in federal court, and if she decides to sue Suntrust in state court for FCCPA violations, she must first send Suntrust a proper notice of grievance and give Suntrust an opportunity to cure, because her mortgage contract requires it.
Why You Should Always Read Your Contract

persistancepays said...

The mortgage and the note comprise a single legal contract even though they exist in separate documents. Sandoval's failure to give notice and opportunity to cure constituted a breach of that contract, specifically of the second paragraph of section 20 of the uniform Form 3010: Florida Mortgage security instrument. The mortgage, in section 20, provides the following (red emphasis added):

"Neither Borrower nor Lender may commence, join, or be joined to any judicial action (as either an individual litigant or the member of a class) that arises from the other party’s actions pursuant to this Security Instrument or that alleges that the other party has breached any provision of, or any duty owed by reason of, this Security Instrument, until such Borrower or Lender has notified the other party (with such notice given in compliance with the requirements of Section 15) of such alleged breach and afforded the other party hereto a reasonable period after the giving of such notice to take corrective action. If Applicable Law provides a time period which must elapse before certain action can be taken, that time period will be deemed to be reasonable for purposes of this paragraph. The notice of acceleration and opportunity to cure given to Borrower pursuant to Section 22 and the notice of acceleration given to Borrower pursuant to Section 18 shall be deemed to satisfy the notice and opportunity to take corrective action provisions of this Section 20."

The mortgage, in Section 22, imposes a similar obligation, in bold face type, on the creditor:

"Acceleration; Remedies. Lender shall give notice to Borrower prior to acceleration following Borrower’s breach of any covenant or agreement in this Security Instrument (but not prior to acceleration under Section 18 unless Applicable Law provides otherwise). The notice shall specify: (a) the default; (b) the action required to cure the default; (c) a date, not less than 30 days from the date the notice is given to Borrower, by which the default must be cured; and (d) that failure to cure the default on or before the date specified in the notice may result in acceleration of the sums secured by this Security Instrument, foreclosure by judicial proceeding and sale of the Property. The notice shall further inform Borrower of the right to reinstate after acceleration and the right to assert in the foreclosure proceeding the non-existence of a default or any other defense of Borrower to acceleration and foreclosure. If the default is not cured on or before the date specified in the notice, Lender at its option may require immediate payment in full of all sums secured by this Security Instrument without further demand and may foreclose this Security Instrument by judicial proceeding. Lender shall be entitled to collect all expenses incurred in pursuing the remedies provided in this Section 22, including, but not limited to, reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs of title evidence. "

Notice that section 20 refers to "Applicable Law." That could refer to state law, or to federal (e.g., RESPA) law. The applicable federal law, RESPA, (at 12 USC 2605(e)) obligates the servicer to acknowledge receipt of a Qualified Written Request or answer it within 20 business days (about 4 weeks) , and to answer it within 60 business days (about 3 months). Regulation X in the Code of Federal Regulations requires the lender to acknowledge a notice of error (grievance) within 5 days (about 1 week) and correct the error within 30 days (about 6 weeks). Read 12 USC 2605 and the corresponding part of Regulation X in the Code of Federal Regulations 12 CFR 1024.35 in their entirety.

persistancepays said...

So in this case neither the borrower Jennifer Sandoval nor her attorney read or heeded the mortgage security instrument section 20. And even if they had, Sandoval did not allege in her complaint against Suntrust that she had sent the notice of grievance and given opportunity to cure in compliance with RESPA. And now not only has she lost in federal court, but also she will have to pay Suntrust's (and her own) legal fees.

Mortgage Attack hopes other borrowers learn from Sandoval's mistake.

READ YOUR CONTRACT!

persistancepays said...

"The mortgage and the note comprise a single legal contract even though they exist in separate documents."

agian, here is where the fraud is. how can it be a legal contract "even though they exist in separate documents." ????

they always get yu on stuff that is not logical nor probably legal. so now you gotta go challenge still another facet of law: ie, how can a contract exist in separate legal dox???

ans. IT CANT!!!

but now you gotta go challenge this part of the law totally which is totally irrelevnat to the origianl issue, ie mortgage fraud.

OMO said...

"The mortgage and the note comprise a single legal contract even though they exist in separate documents."

again, here is where the fraud is. how can it be a legal contract "even though they exist in separate documents." ????
_______________________


That's right. It's gotta be one whole document. IRS does the same thing with their liens and levies. The lien or levy should be one document, but they separate it into four different parts. It's fraud.

OMO said...
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OMO said...

As one former Internet friend once said: "one form (Notice of Lien) in quadruplicate parts is irregular and introduces procedure in which error, accident, and malfeasance can pass undetected. It's impossible to have a regular Statement and Account from irregularity. "


A mortgage loan is no different- it's supposed to be one document, however, when they break it into different documents it introduces procedure in which error, accident, and malfeasance can pass undetected. There is no regularity of accounting in the Federal Reserve System.

mogel007 said...

Bank of America ordered to pay $46 million for foreclosure tactics used against Lincoln couple -

Bank of America was told to pay a $46 million judgment last week after it wrongfully foreclosed on a Lincoln couple during the recession.
The order by Sacramento bankruptcy court Judge Christopher M. Klein describes in detail how the bank improperly engaged and foreclosed on Erik and Renee Sundquist’s Lincoln residence.
The judge awarded about $1 million in actual damages to the couple. Klein gave the rest of the sum to outside entities focused on consumer law and education, including the National Consumer Law Center and several University of California law schools.
The trouble began in 2009 when the Charlotte, N.C.-based bank reportedly asked the struggling couple to default on the loan in order to obtain a mortgage modification. But the bank refused to honor that promise, according to court documents.
At that point, the Sundquists filed for Chapter 13 bankruptcy, which triggered a stay on the foreclosure process. The bank disregarded the stay and started eviction proceedings. This included sending workers to the property on multiple occasions.
“Without identifying themselves, they staked out the premises, tailed the Sundquists, knocked on doors, knocked on windows, and rang doorbells, all to the terror of the Sundquist family,” Klein wrote in a 109-page opinion for the ruling.
Bank of America eventually gained possession of the property for six months, after which it then agreed that the foreclosure had been a mistake. The company returned the keys to the Sundquists. When they re-entered their home, the major appliances had been removed and the lawn was dead, according to the court.
“Throughout, the Sundquists were acting in good faith, not realizing that Bank of America had no intention of acting in good faith,” Klein wrote.
In a written statement to The Sacramento Bee on Tuesday, Bank of America expressed regret for the “challenging experience” of the customers, adding that foreclosure processes in place at the time in 2010 were later modified.
“In early review of the decision, we believe some of the court’s rulings are unprecedented and unsupported. We are determining the appropriate way to respond,” the statement said.
The ruling can still be appealed, though bank officials have not indicated whether they will pursue that route.  http://www.sacbee.com/news/bus...rticle141319308.html

persistancepays said...

da banks r a bunch of teefs!!!

Dr. Caligari said...

here is where the fraud is. how can it be a legal contract "even though they exist in separate documents." ?

That rule is for the protection of the borrower. The borrower signs a promissory note and a mortgage, but if they were not deemed part of the same contract, the bank could sell the note to one buyer and the mortgage to another buyer and the borrower could be sued twice for the same debt.

persistancepays said...

LOLOLOLOLOOOOOOLLLOOOLLL!!!!!

"That rule is for the protection of the borrower. The borrower signs a promissory note and a mortgage, but if they were not deemed part of the same contract, the bank could sell the note to one buyer and the mortgage to another buyer and the borrower could be sued twice for the same debt."


think thats exactly what theyve been doing all these years????

only thins dat they not doon, is skewing the 'borro her".....dat would espose da fraw cumplety.

dats ho days bin kepping da shell game gong fo a berry lawn time naw. lollo

persistancepays said...

n day ain doon it fo 'production of da borro her' eether... lollloollo

persistancepays said...

" a legal contract must be complete"

othwerise i can have yo sing one paper and on the udder, yo singed away yo life to me wi/out yo no ing it.

so separate 'lethal contracks' is BS hell up by da crup corts

persistancepays said...

dublin up on da contracks... it call by udder names... ~~~~ fractionating, fartinal baking sytem, wah eva yo wanna calls it. yo sing one contrack, an we's sell it 10x ova for $$$$$ to udder fools

OMO said...

I love this channel, but Youtube doesn't. What else is new?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnSQsvIhlaQ

persistancepays said...

tehy took all yo doolas, so yo cant pay wit anythins but fake doolas, so then...

here: http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2015/12/ucc-1-debt-elimination-12115.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StopThePirates+%28Stop+The+Pirates%29

persistancepays said...

On May 23, 1933, Congressman Louis T. McFadden, (R-OH) Chairman of the House Banking and Finance Committee brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON. To protect themselves from these charges both the House and the Senate, on JUNE 5, 1933, passed House Joint Resolution 192. It provided that the people, who had delivered their gold to the federal government following an illegal proclamation by President Roosevelt, would be exempt from paying their debts since their means of payment, their substance, had been taken from them. HJR 192 provided a remedy for the crime.

persistancepays said...

" It provided that the people, who had their gold stolen by the federal government following an illegal seizure as directed by President Roosevelt, would be exempt from paying their debts since their means of payment, their gold, had been stolen from them. HJR 192 provided a remedy for the crime.

persistancepays said...

fedril govt a bunch of teefs!!!! lol!

OMO said...

Try quoting HJR 192 to the IRS or other debt collectors and see where you get.

IRS now using debt collectors...

https://consumerist.com/2017/04/03/the-irs-is-now-using-private-debt-collectors-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

OMO said...


Man goes to work to become a doormat. People are objects. So true.

http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/the-employment/

An anonymous man performs his usual trip to work, immersed in a world where the utilisation of people as objects is an everyday thing.

OMO said...

If HJR 192 was a remedy for paying off your debt, then we should be forced to use FRNS as money, since they represent debt. I should be able to get everything for free since I already paid for it when they stole the gold.

Everything is pre-paid per HJR 192.

mogel007 said...

I've read the law HJR 192 and it isn't so clear that this law allows us to discharge debt or that everything is prepaid or even that all the gold was stolen.

mogel007 said...

Or that the stolen gold was somehow related to this new law. The only thing I take from this law is that you couldn't demand payment in gold anymore.

mogel007 said...

So when you put out these arguments, you don't go anywhere with them.

mogel007 said...

And it wasn't you that had your gold stolen, it was your ancestors before you.

mogel007 said...

Why should you get a remedy for something that was done to others before you?

mogel007 said...

And you don't have to use federal reserve notes, you could pay by silver coin or by gold, or by Bitcoin, or by Berkshires, or by barter or by your service. The argument doesn't hold water.

mogel007 said...

And really, who do you know that has used that argument, and as actually discharged debt or actually done something of value with their life that has a story or a testimony they can share? The courts and the FBI laugh at that argument.

mogel007 said...

You sound like a socialist instead of a capitalist when you use that argument.
"I should get everything for free." LOL

mogel007 said...

OK, in what world are you talking about?

mogel007 said...

Even in the Bible, it says that "you should work and by the sweat of your brow, you will have your food." Or words something to that effect.

mogel007 said...

Where does it say in HJR 192 that everything is prepaid? Isn't that a far reaching conclusion?

mogel007 said...

Believe me, I'd like to buy your arguments, but I just don't see it. And if I don't see it, how can I convince anyone else?

persistancepays said...

mongrel has switched sides???

persistancepays said...

can $omeone be bought off???

mogel007 said...

No, I haven't been bought off or switching sides, I'm, just trying to get a cogent argument to support your position rather than someone just parrotting what they've heard. Who do you really know that has had success discharging debt using these arguments? If it's all true, than certainly you can find success.

OMO said...

Even in the Bible, it says that "you should work and by the sweat of your brow, you will have your food." Or words something to that effect.
________________________

I recently heard a Congressman use that biblical quote against people who apply for food stamps. He said that people who don't work shouldn't be getting gov. handouts like food stamps. What about the government- they don't work either- they live off the backs of taxpapers. Government doesn't produce anything- they take only. Maybe the government ought to apply that quote to themselves.

OMO said...

Our government doesn't produce anything of value. They take, take, take. It is PEOPLE that produce. Maybe the government ought to take that quote "you should work and by the sweat of your brow, you will have your food." and apply it to themselves. Freaking government needs to get the freak out of our lives, and stay there.

OMO said...

People are the producers. We produce the food and it should be available to everyone at all times. Yet that doesn't happen in our so-called democracy because the goverment controls every aspect of our lives. That's wrong. There is enough food to feed every person on this planet for 10 lifetimes. Fe'kin idiot congressmen.

OMO said...

Fek'in government can kiss my ass. Everything belongs to everyone. Fek'in freaks want to control everyone and everything. Fek'em. Fek'em real good.

mogel007 said...

Possible Foreclosure Defense:

Ownership of property is impossible through law. Wondering how the courts would view this? This means since I couldn't convey clear title to the lender and paperwork I signed such as a deed of trust giving the lender/bank legal title and a mortgage on my property is also void as I cant give something I never possessed nor can i guarantee clear title to the lender as the documents made me claim that the banks attorney drew up which I signed.

Senate Document No. 43, 43rd Congress Section 1 was passed in 1933, the same year that the United States Inc. went into Chapt. 11 bankruptcy. The Senate declared "ownership of all property is in the State." Individual so called ownership is only by virtue of government i.e. law amounting to MERE OCCUPANCY. And use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State. So we are all Socialists whether we believe it or not.

Judges are obligated to recognize the law and honor the law not circumvent the law.

NO ONE CAN OWN ANYTHING INCLUDING BANKS IN THIS COUNTRY. All land was pledged to the United States in a bankruptcy. This means that the mortgage and note I signed, foolishly thinking I was the owner of my home is void. If either the note or the mortgage is void by law, than any foreclosure to oust me from the Land/property is also a legal impossibility, so any foreclosure than becomes an unlawful foreclosure for which I am entitled to financial damages. The logic is flawless and the law is clear and has never been overturned. Is this the silver bullet to prevent the bank stealing the house, theft by deception through their illegal foreclosure scam?

mogel007 said...

According to David Roach, a so called expert, judges are suppose to discharge our debt according to the 1933 bankruptcy of the United States. He cited several laws to support that assertion:

HJR 192 Now Public Law 73:10
31 USC 3113
31 USC 35312
28 USC 2041
26 USC 3
26 USC 1275
15 USC Subsection 1
12 USC 95
1 USC 8
23 USC 2045

In order to force the Judge to do this, you have to appoint the Judge as your trustee by filing the IRS trustee form and filing it in your foreclosure case record, and maybe even in the public record. And probably requesting a motion for the Judge to discharge your debt, based upon the aforementioned laws cited.
A lady did this, Sheila Pilat in Arizona and was successful in stopping her foreclosure.

mogel007 said...



Link to look up the court court case # CV2010-016616 Maricopa County, AZ
this is where Sheila Pilat made the Judge a trustee.
where she got the bank's foreclosure case dismissed
Case # CV2010-016616 Maricopa County, Arizona
Citi Mortgage Inc. v. Peter M.. Pilat, and Sheila Pilat

mogel007 said...

This is the link to get the full court case and all the filings in Sheila Pilat's successful case:

http://tinyurl.com/mmfdrov

You see when you make the judge a trustee, due to conflicts of interest issues, and the chance of personally getting sued by the borrower if the judge doesn't do things legally and correctly, the Judge then wants nothing to do with the foreclosure case, so he dismisses the foreclosure action.

mogel007 said...

Box the Judge in a corner and you will get results. I boxed a Judge into a corner, not by this method of appointing him a trustee, but using his own words against him in a motion I filed, and got a $93,000 mortgage note forgiven 5 months later. Course the Judge never decided on my motion either which is a $250,000 abuse of due process violation. It's as if he ignored the motion of mine which put egg on his face and wanted to have nothing to do with it, either in my favor, or against my favor. Even stranger was that Chase Bank vanished from all 3 of my credit reports. You would think the account should have shown "settled" or "paid in full" since it was a forgiven account, but now there is no history of this loan on any of my credit files. It's as if the "loan account" was never issued. I wonder if that was done on purpose due to the fraud I uncovered or if it's just the policy of Chase Bank to do that. Maybe someone with more expertise in this area would know. Course I owed about $130,000 if you count the interest. That was in Oct. 2016 when banks weren't really forgiving mortgage notes very often. Alot of forgiveness went on in 2013-2014 as the banks were getting a dollar for dollar credit off their billions of governmental fines to forgive debt, so the banks were forgiving alot of 2nd mortgage debt, and houses that were under water, and the worst of loans. But by 2015 the major banks probably came close to paying off their fines by the forgiveness of bad debt they had already done, and payments they had made, so come 2016, a forgiveness of a loan became much more rare. Course banks were forgiving debts that they didn't even own, and got caught doing that by the government overseers too, so I don't know how much debt forgiveness got reversed.

Can't prove for certainty that the reason I got my note forgiven and a home free & clear, was because I boxed the Judge and the bank into a corner by showing a conspiracy between the judge and the bank, but no other explanation makes sense as Chase Bank fought me for 7 years, and they were the only creditor that showed up when I filed Chapt. 13 bankruptcy 4 times within a 2.5 year period of time to save my rental home from losing it, and they were relentless, so any other reason why they got soft and gave up, makes no sense to me.

mogel007 said...

I know Kurt Johnson appointed Judge Alsup as his trustee in the federal court in CA. This private bankers instrument was in the amount of 600 Million Dollars. This instrument should have been paid through Kurt's private Treasury Account on the private side of banking. That's 300 Million to pay off the bond that attached to his criminal case, for Kurt, and 300 Million to pay off the bond attached to Scott's criminal charges too. I was surprised to understand that the bonds are really that high, but it's true, the cost is really 600 Million Dollars even though the banks suffered no loss as admitted in the court record too by the US Attorney's. LOL Theoretically, this payment which was never refused by Judge Alsup's court since it was never legally dishonored, or returned, discharged the bonds attached to his incarceration, or Judge Alsup is in violation of his duties as Kurt & Scott's trustee for not discharging this obligation. Probably both conditions apply in law. In theory, like in the game of monopoly, this should have acted as a "get out of jail free" card for both of them, as the real Bodies of Kurt & Scott's act as collateral for the court bonds that were issued and sold in the secondary markets. This is why you have to serve your prison terms, which is 24.5 years for Kurt & 21.5 years for Scott approximately, or pay your way out and file the necessary paperwork which is the other option, because these bonds exist, and are debt obligations keeping them in prison.

This issuance of a bankers acceptance instrument to the court is all in the court case record which is public information and anyone can look this up.

So yes, the courts are suppose to discharge all debt, but why aren't they doing it is the better question? Is there something missing in order to force the courts to do this is my question?

So in the end at some point in time, the damages for imprisoning Kurt & Scott illegally and creating a bogus criminal court case against the two, since all the issues were settled previously to the criminal case by the Dorean Presentments and administrative default judgments against the banks that they perfected and even secured them with UCC-1 statements filed in CA, so keeping them in prison for years illegally, is going to be scores of billions of dollars in damages awarded someday when their injustices are finally recognized. Can't wait for that day, it's coming though. There will be an accounting of all these things.

OMO said...

Mogel, who's paying the property tax on your free & clear home? The bank or you? Or is the tax assessor forgiving you for that every year?

OMO said...

Mogel said: "I know Kurt Johnson appointed Judge Alsup as his trustee in the federal court in CA. This private bankers instrument was in the amount of 600 Million Dollars."

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Six hundred million Dollars????? You mean 600 hundred million FRNS. Judges don't discharge all debt because if they did they'd be discharging FRNS- the very stuff the are dependent on every two weeks. Discharing all debt is the same as discharging all FRNS. Get the picture? If they discharged all debt they discharge all FRNS. A real debt is a contract entered into and signed by BOTH parties. The bank never signs so it's not a valid contract. Judges don't discharge contracts they discharge FRNS and they have to be careful not to discharge ALL FRNS because in doing so they discharge themselves out of a job.
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persistancepays said...

"You see when you make the judge a trustee,...."


suppose the judge either, refuses to become turstee, OR accepts and then immediately resings or appoinst anther person as trustee in his place??

OMO said...

Only in the Fek'd up Federal Reserve System can a judge become a trustee. Real judges are supposed to be independent and impartial to the case. If you make him a trustee he loses the ability to be an independent impartial.

mogel007 said...

Yes 600M FRN's is correct.

mogel007 said...

I suppose if the Judge resigns as trustee, you put your objection on the court record.

mogel007 said...

Tax assessor won't forgive the real estate taxes. I have to pay that. Although for a while the bank was paying that too. At some point, they stopped, so I owe the current real estate tax due.

persistancepays said...

it all gonna come to a end with the global currency reset which is imminent, thats why usa bombed syria, to try to start a war to prevent the gcr

OMO said...

"Tax assessor won't forgive the real estate taxes."
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I didn't think so.

Please tell me how the judge can be both judge and trustee at the same time. If the judge becomes the trustee who becomes the judge? Without a judge what happens to the case?

OMO said...
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OMO said...

"it all gonna come to a end with the global currency reset which is imminent, thats why usa bombed syria, to try to start a war to prevent the gcr"
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They're saying the chemical bomb that maimed and killed all those children in Syria was a false flag- it gave the President a reason to go in and bomb Syria- just as 9/11 was a false flag because they wanted to take over Iraq

mogel007 said...

I don't know how a Judge can be trustee and administrator of the case, maybe that's why Sheila Pilat got her case dismissed, maybe the Judge saw that apparent dilema too and didn't want to deal with it. How can the Judge side with the banks 99% of the time and even in some cases give advice to the banks attorney in court? They have no problem doing that.

mogel007 said...

Yea, it sure looks like a false flag in Syria pertaining to the attack yesterday. Somebody seems to want a war between Russia and the U.S. These are scary times. I hope things don't escalate. I hope the attack was just tit for tat and nothing more.

mogel007 said...

Yea, I also think the globalists want to take over Syria as the ultimate agenda, just like the U.S.'s job was to take over Iraq at the time and totally disrupt that country too. That's why the instigators are ruining the country of Syria and why you have these mass migrations from Syria now, affecting many countries and people wanting to leave Syria because it's too unsafe. Assad is getting blamed for the gas attacks on children, and even Trump is saying this, but there are those saying he's not doing it, but that it's a false flag. My gut feeling says this is true.

Problem is Russia is defending Syria, and if US goes to an all out war in Syria, whoever, you think you are fighting, you might as well declare war against Russia too because Russia's involvement will escalate too, and Russia will take that as an affront, which will only start World War III.
Who really wants that whoever is to really blame?
It's becoming more obvious that maybe Syria is going to be the epicenter for World War III. I hope I'm wrong about that.

OMO said...


Politics- it's all about business. Buying and selling and making money.


Trump Owned Stock in The Company He Just Helped Make a Billion Overnight by Bombing Syria

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/


The report showed that Trump also owns or has owned stock in many well-known companies including Apple, Nike, Whole Foods, Google, Philip Morris, McDonald’s, Facebook, and Morgan Stanley, among many others — including many other defense contractors who stand to make billions off Trump’s aggression.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/#hg7WcdyulWH4CUAo.99

OMO said...

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2017/04/07/prepare-for-impact-this-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-u-s-empire/#more-43554

From the post, Very Powerful People in the U.S. Government Want War – This is Their Sales Pitch:

We need to understand that those who want this war will be absolutely relentless. The sales pitch will not end until they get exactly what they want. This is where all of us critical thinkers need to play a key role. We must be prepared to diligently analyze all unsubstantiated official claims, and push back against the war-mongers, because we know for certain the oligarch-owned corporate media won’t. We must be prepared to inform our fellow citizens about what’s happening so that we don’t fall victim to a cheap sales pitch with devastating consequences. Unfortunately, we must also be prepared for a possible deep state false flag if the current sales tactic falls on deaf ears.


OMO said...

Jordan Maxwell on the rise of machines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fslzB35qu-g

15:45 "The U.S. as a corporation, it sort of leans into 2 subjects that I have always been fascinated by- secret societies and artificial intelligence (aka A.I.). I really think that corporations sort of mirror these 2 subjects. There's even very high place persons who have alluded to the fact that corporation is sort of like a precursor to Artificial Intelligence."

OMO said...

https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/850869982254829569/photo/1

Lord Rothschild: Bibi, Americans are complaining the bombing wasn't justified because Syria hasn't attacked America. SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.

Bibi: Yes, Lord Rothschild. I'll have Mossad do another 9/11 on America, and this time we'll leave SYRIAN passports at the scene.

Dr. Caligari said...

http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_30906805/peoples-grand-jury-accused-threatening-elected-officials-judges

persistancepays said...

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P3EjgMdKw0w/WOuzlQjzFHI/AAAAAAAADTM/DbsCR-rbag4tObFbX9YAVCkOXzdBppWGgCLcB/s1600/Mortgage-Elimination-Nov-2011-AtlantaB.png

persistancepays said...

Did anyone catch this??????

"....Our goal is to.....". https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1yZ-7DR5w

WTF? Was this a verbal slip? .....I no...I no...Of curse it was.....

persistancepays said...

good ole uncle scam....

OMO said...

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-multi-level-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/#comments

Legal aspects of the attack:

The US attack happened in direct violation of US law, of international law and of the UN charter. First, I would say that there is strong legal evidence that the US attack violated the US Constitution, Presidential War Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of Military Force (AUMF) resolution. But since I don’t really care about this aspect of Trump’s criminal behavior, I will just refer you to two pretty good analyses of this issue (see here and here) and just simply summarize the argument of those who say that what Trump did was legal. It boils down to this: “yeah, it’s illegal, but all US Presidents have been doing it for so long that they have thereby created a legal precedent which, uh, makes it legal after all“. I don’t think this kind of “defense” is worthy of a reply or rebuttal. So now let’s turn to international law.

Most people think that crimes against humanity or genocide must be the ultimate crime under international law. They are wrong. The ultimate crime is aggression. This is the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial on this topic:

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.

So, following the long and prestigious list of other US Presidents before him, Donald Trump is now a war criminal. In fact, he is a “supreme war criminal”. It only took him 77 days to achieve this status, probably some kind of a record.

OMO said...

Re: the boulder-county-news/peoples-grand-jury-accused-threatening-elected-officials-judges.


Sad news indeed.

The people of the People's Grand Jury need to start listening to some videos by the late-great Buddhist philosopher Alan Watts how to get justice in a world of no justice.

persistancepays said...

1099-OID FILERS - DEPT. OF JUSTICE HAS LOST ITS PATIENCE!!! 500 years in prison for filing 1099_OID FORMS ( original issue discount)

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/hermosa-beach-couple-arrested-federal-charges-related-tax-scam-and-passing-false-checks

OMO said...

Geez, what were they thinking! All for Federal Reserve funny money! It ain't worth a continental nickel!

persistancepays said...

Sean David Morton isn't he the remote viewing guy? Couldn't he ' remote view' what was going to happen?

OMO said...

No, not the same Sean David Morton.

Sean David Morton, the remote viewer is not 58 yrs old. See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HowEV1LwSY8

persistancepays said...

maybe he should of called up his namesake and ask hm what would happen if he filled the 1099 OIDs with the govt??? lolol!!!!!!!! he could have remote viewed the results and save him over 500 yrs in jail.

OMO said...

Whatever happened to the Winston Shrout case?

Dr. Caligari said...

Whatever happened to the Winston Shrout case?


On December 8, 2015, Shrout was charged with six misdemeanor counts of willful failure to file tax returns. On March 15, 2016, The Government added additional 13 felony counts, of "issuing fictitious obligations." On March 31, 2017, Shrout's motion to dismiss the new counts was denied.

persistancepays said...

So did he peel it?

OMO said...

He won't peel it. If he has any sense at all he knows where this case is headed. Once they've got you in their courts, it's all over. Keep it out of court. That's what Alan Watts would recommend. For god's sake keep it out of court. There is no fairness and justice (equity) in their courts. Outside their courts, yes. Inside, no.

OMO said...

By Alan Watts. It answers the question what is common law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXvhNkmXruE


7:27 And that is why, in Chinese ideas of justice, a good judge is not somebody who abides by the book. Their idea of justice is for god's sake keep the case out of court, let us have a consultation behind the scenes and lets arrange a compromise, because we know our opponent is a rascal. I know I am rascal and therefore there can be a mutual arrangement between thieves. So we talk about it and we call the judge in An unofficial capacity, and the judge hums and haws, and if he is a good judge, has a sense of what is called Lei. ...Lei is justice, but you can't write it down. … And this word represents, in its Chinese character form, a caldron for cooking sacrifices and a knife. In the high and far off times of Chinese history there was an Emperor who when the people brought their sacrifices of meat and so on to be put in the caldrons, he also scratched with a knife on the side of the caldrons the laws of the state so that all the people could read these and understand what they were. But the sages who advised this Emperor said that was a very bad thing to do. Because the moment people see the law written down they develop a liturgist spirit—that is to say they think out ways of wangling around it. And that's what we do all the time don't we? The moment Congress passes a law—a tax law especially—all the lawyers get together and they think—they fill it with holes. They say, well, it didn't define this and it didn't say that. And some of those Confucions wanted to put the language in order and to make all the words mean just so. But the Taoists laughed at them and said if you define the words, with what words are you going to define the words that define the words? So they said therefore the Emperor should not have written the laws down. Because a sense of justice is not something you can put in words. It's what our lawyers call Equity. And you can talk to any lawyer and in discussing various judges around town, he will say, well, judge so-in-so is pretty much a stickler for the letter of the law. But on the other hand judge so-in-so has a sense of equity. He knows when the letter of the law doesn't apply to the particular case, and he just has an innate sense of fair play. That's a man to be trusted as a judge. So this is what the Chinese mean by a judge who has the sense of Lei, of real justice—it can't written down—it can't be explained, because every case is individual. But what such a man has fundamentally in his heart he trusts the good and bad of human nature. Human beings are complex. We don't know ourselves at all really. Consider your nervous system. Neurologists haven't even begun to figure it out, and yet all your conscious decisions are based on the this thing that you don't understand. You're unbelievably more wise in your nature than you ever will be in your conscious thoughts, because behind your conscious thoughts lies your nervous system.

OMO said...

Split it up a bit to make it more readable.



7:27 And that is why, in Chinese ideas of justice, a good judge is not somebody who abides by the book. Their idea of justice is for god's sake keep the case out of court, let us have a consultation behind the scenes and lets arrange a compromise, because we know our opponent is a rascal. I know I am rascal and therefore there can be a mutual arrangement between thieves. So we talk about it and we call the judge in An unofficial capacity, and the judge hums and haws, and if he is a good judge, has a sense of what is called Lei. ...Lei is justice, but you can't write it down. … And this word represents, in its Chinese character form, a caldron for cooking sacrifices and a knife. In the high and far off times of Chinese history there was an Emperor who when the people brought their sacrifices of meat and so on to be put in the caldrons, he also scratched with a knife on the side of the caldrons the laws of the state so that all the people could read these and understand what they were. But the sages who advised this Emperor said that was a very bad thing to do. Because the moment people see the law written down they develop a liturgist spirit—that is to say they think out ways of wangling around it. And that's what we do all the time don't we? The moment Congress passes a law—a tax law especially—all the lawyers get together and they think—they fill it with holes. They say, well, it didn't define this and it didn't say that. And some of those Confucions wanted to put the language in order and to make all the words mean just so. But the Taoists laughed at them and said if you define the words, with what words are you going to define the words that define the words? So they said therefore the Emperor should not have written the laws down. Because a sense of justice is not something you can put in words. It's what our lawyers call Equity. And you can talk to any lawyer and in discussing various judges around town, he will say, well, judge so-in-so is pretty much a stickler for the letter of the law.

But on the other hand judge so-in-so has a sense of equity. He knows when the letter of the law doesn't apply to the particular case, and he just has an innate sense of fair play. That's a man to be trusted as a judge. So this is what the Chinese mean by a judge who has the sense of Lei, of real justice—it can't written down—it can't be explained, because every case is individual. But what such a man has fundamentally in his heart he trusts the good and bad of human nature.

Human beings are complex. We don't know ourselves at all really. Consider your nervous system. Neurologists haven't even begun to figure it out, and yet all your conscious decisions are based on the this thing that you don't understand. You're unbelievably more wise in your nature than you ever will be in your conscious thoughts, because behind your conscious thoughts lies your nervous system.

OMO said...

Instead of Constitutional courts of law and equity, we have private bankers courts of no law and no equity.

I never understood what equity meant until I listened to the above by Alan Watts. You won't get equity in today's courts because they are not constitutional courts.

OMO said...

A bit off topic, but thought I'd share it anyway. :D

Charles Bukowski on Death and Writing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTPxWkBgW6U

persistancepays said...
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persistancepays said...

". Once they've got you in their courts, it's all over. Keep it out of court. "

but wasnt that what shout was always shrouting about? keep it out of courts? thats what i dont udnerstand about all these guys, and sometimes i wonder if they are being fronted as 'bait' just to get others ensnared in thier schemes.

as one were going to keepit out of court, then one would have to start at the very beinngin, as in, are you JOHN DOE? NO. i am John Doe and all that nonsense. but even those who have tried this have been looked up. so the bottom ling is, no matter what you try, they can and will lock you up. so then its a qusetioin of, "why bother to try anyting at all"?

good question that only the shouts, skiffs, and even capt. krik and scooty can only answer??? all thier efforts havefor the time being...failed.

persistancepays said...

although i think that they will all prevail......very....very....sooooon! ;-)

OMO said...

but wasnt that what shout was always shrouting about? keep it out of courts?
__________________________

No, Schiff was always in court- he filed case after case against them. He understood the court system of no law and no justice intellectually but not as expounded by Alan Watts, so his approach to said private bank courts was always the same- he went in fighting. You can't go in fighting- a whole new approach is needed. Schiff is gone and soon will be Shrout- life's a bitch then you die.

Dr. Caligari said...

Shrout's trial starts today.

persistancepays said...

shout advocated 'administrative' methods staying out of court...yet, thats exactly where he seems to find himself. im not talking about skiff, altho i did mention him in error with the above. skiff was probably also a shill to ensnare other. noone who was as intelligent as he, could possibly beleive that he could/would win in court there3fore overturning the entire federal tax system

OMO said...

Taking down the tax system is taking down money system. That's why they never allowed Schiff to win. Today's black-robed priests are gatekeepers of the federal reserve system. They can't jail everyone so they go after the promoters who put their corporate b.c. name on books, workshops, and videos. You've gotta be as anonymous as possible in this business lest be thrown into the lion's den.

OMO said...

Most states require a thumbprint for a driver license so if you have a driver license they have your thumbprint, so it's probably a good idea to find a way to burn the lines off your thumb or index finger so they can't identify the corpse as the ALL CAP corporate name. lol

persistancepays said...

perhaps there is some positive movement re: the dg issue....i have been looking at deed recorders land records on websitess and in many instances are now seeing where loans have been illegally assigned without filing with the county deed recoreders office. these were assigned many years ago, but have only now been recorded with long delay post assignment and in many cases also, the fraudulent assignments were done after a court judgment indicating the original bank lender who did not in fact assign the mortgage notes to another bank/MERs. so apparnetly, there seems to be BIG fraud going on there...but, again how long will it take to 'monetize' this fraud...anthoer 10 years??

OMO said...

The Jews put Trump in power...


https://www.dailystormer.com/trump-delivers-bizarre-weekly-address-praising-jews-and-israel/

"Trump opens the video by praising the Jews and talking about Passover. This is the Jewish holiday that celebrates the biblical murder of Egyptian first born sons. He goes on to falsely claim that Jews have been unfairly persecuted throughout history and that they have brought light to the world. Total lies to anybody who knows anything about history. Jews have only brought darkness and death into the world.

The address was nothing but kikery and cuckery. The fact that he leads his address talking about Jews, Passover and Israel is either a cry for help or a slap in the face to his political base. Take your pick.

It is also worth noting that his delivery in this video is very robotic and low energy. He looks like someone who has a gun pointed at him while he reads off the teleprompter. This is far different than many of his previous addresses where he seems to be acting like his normal self.

It’s clear that Trump is no longer the man he once was. The Jewish media establishment went from non stop Trump bashing to accepting him as President over night. All it took was for him to order a barrage of cruise missile strikes against a Syrian military base...."

persistancepays said...

"....beware of those who say they are, but are not, for they do lie..."

relly???

OMO said...

Didn't know Alex Jones got a divorce. Didn't know he remarried either.


https://alexjonesexposed.info/

BREAKING NEWS! Alex Jones was legally divorced from his Jewish wife Kelly Jones/Violet Nichols on March 23, 2015. Kelly/Violet initially filed for divorce from Alex Jones on December 18, 2013, and since then has been engaged in continuous litigation against him over custody of their three children. As part of the divorce settlement, Alex Jones was court ordered to deed the family house (valued at $900k) to Kelly/Violet as well as sign a promissory note payable to Kelly/Violet in the amount of $2.7 million (Kelly/Violet also owns an additional house valued at $1 million). Alex Jones’ separation from his wife was first revealed by self-admitted F.B.I. informant and D.o.D. intelligence agent Aaron Wilson of GONOB Radio / Alex Jones Critic / Alt-Media Radio / Alt-Right Radio / Video Freedom / 360win. (He serially reinvents himself in order to infiltrate different internet communities for the Federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies that he contracts for.)

OMO said...

Alex Jones's ex-wife gets almost half of everything they own and then he turns around wants to do it again... WHAT AN IDIOT.



On a different note...

Want to buy some Trump memorabilia?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46905.htm

Why doesn't Paul Craig Roberts understand US is a Zionist colony? "It will be US, not North Korea, that ends life on earth." Henry Makow

President Trump’s Disappearance

The World Worries That Washington Has Nuclear Weapons.

By Paul Craig Roberts

April 20, 2017 "Information Clearing House" -  In my long experience in Washington, vice presidents did not make major foreign policy announcements or threaten other countries with war. Not even Dick Cheney stole this role from the weak president George W. Bush.

But yesterday the world witnessed VP Pence threaten North Korea with war. “The sword stands ready,” said Pence as if he is the commander in chief.

Perhaps he is.

Where is Trump? As far as I can tell from the numerous emails I receive from him, he is at work marketing his presidency. Once Trump won the election, I began receiving endless offers to purchase Trump baseball caps, T-shirts, cuff-links, coffee mugs, and to donate $3 to be entered into a raffle to win some memorabilia. latest offer is a chance to win one of “personally signed five incredible photographs of our historic and massive inauguration.”

OMO said...

Government to simulate nuclear blast over Manhattan (video 3.5 min)

https://www.intellihub.com/operation-gotham-shield-u-s-govt-to-simulate-nuke-blast-over-manhattan-as-actual-war-nears/

persistancepays said...

"...self-admitted F.B.I. stoolpigeon and D.o.D. intelligence agent Aaron Wilson of..." LOLOLOLOLOOOLLL!!!!

Dr. Caligari said...

Winston Shrout jury verdict:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/man_who_failed_to_pay_taxes_fo.html#incart_river_home

OMO said...

And that's why anonymity it A MUST. How do they get jurisdiction over the person in the first place? That's what I'd like to know. The birth certificate is the beginning of all claims against the person. They will never admit or deny it, but I'd still think they need to prove jurisdiction over the person to do anything and how they get it is a mystery.

Dr. Caligari said...

How do they get jurisdiction over the person in the first place? That's what I'd like to know.

In a criminal case, if the defendant is a human being, the court has personal jurisdiction if the defendant is physically present in the courtroom at the time of arraignment, even if he was brought there illegally.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/342/519/case.html

The birth certificate is the beginning of all claims against the person.

Then why is the birth certificate never offered in evidence in a criminal case? And how does a court have jurisdiction over an illegal alien who commits a crime, since that alien's birth was never registered in the U.S. (and possibly was never registered anywhere)? And how did courts function before birth certificates were first required (in most places, not until 1890 or so)?

persistancepays said...

got stains on yo jacket? then shout it out!!! shout!!!


Oregon Promoter Convicted for Making, Passing and Sending Bogus Financial Instruments to U.S. Treasury and Financial Institution and Failing to File Tax Returns


About 10 years ago Winston Shrout blew into town and put on a somewhat secret, private seminar for far-edge, think-outside-the-box legal theorist movers and shakers in the Tampa Bay area. He taught them about the ultra-slick, arcane 1099-OID process of getting the IRS to pay scammers undeserved tax refunds. I had started calling the process a scam back then, and so the movers and shakers shunned me as they pulled in dupes and fools to whom they sold their 1099-OID service.

It took the IRS and DOJ a few years, but they finally started getting indictments and convictions against 1099-OID and other scammers who used very clever ways of cheating on the taxes. Incidentally, you should not take my expressed disdain for the scammers as an indication that I believe they actually owed any income tax because I don't. However, the scammers used an utterly crooked way to get out of paying the tax AND of getting refunds of far more money than they would have deserved with a traditional tax return.

After tolerating years of the scammers' bogus seminars to teach crooked methods and of preparing and filing fraudulent documents, the government got indictments and convictions of the infamous Timothy Turner (of the Restore America Plan scam) and Glen Unger, AKA Dr. Sam Kennedy. Today those scammers live in federal prisons, right where they belong.

And now Winston Shrout will soon join them because the government just won a conviction against him for his own brand of scams. See the articles below.

To all who hate the income tax: beware of preparing or filing false or fraudulent documents in an effort to avoid or evade income tax.

persistancepays said...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/oregon-promoter-convicted-making-passing-and-sending-bogus-financial-instruments-us-treasury

waht they really saying is the he is guilty of filing fake, fraudulent document. the govt actually files REAL legitimate fraudulent documents all the time. why? becase they have to power to do so (and get away with it)

persistancepays said...

how does all these guys being put in prison relate to the dg principals??

if they are still locking all these guys up, then how in hell do capt. krik and scooty every expect to get a fair shake in this matter?

they purposely let shout get away with this for years, which caused a lot of people to actually believe that he was on to something. he found the way out. and all it did was to ensnare more people into it.

persistancepays said...



Understanding the birth registration process

http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2010/09/cestui-qui-trust-strawman.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StopThePirates+%28Stop+The+Pirates%29

OMO said...

"Then why is the birth certificate never offered in evidence in a criminal case?"
______________

I don't know, maybe it's because it falls under the evidence rules as hearsay, not evidence.


"And how does a court have jurisdiction over an illegal alien who commits a crime, since that alien's birth was never registered in the U.S. (and possibly was never registered anywhere)?"

____________

Maybe the court gets jurisdiction over the illegal alien by treaty where the illegal alien came from.


"And how did courts function before birth certificates were first required (in most places, not until 1890 or so)?"
_____________


Only the states have criminal jurisdiction. Feds have limited criminal jurisdiction- mainly in the area of maritime/admirality and counterfeiting- I believe there's one other but I can't seem to remember it now.

persistancepays said...

see USCFR or CFR 27 SECTION 72.1

or

WHEN ALL CRIME IS COMMERCIAL

just like tv, there is comical commercials!!

on other words, all crime is a bizness

persistancepays said...

also see:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com

"READ THE UCC CONNECTION FIRST


Important : UCC 1-207 has been moved to UCC 1-308 to hide it from the public. Also you will need to make written motions instead of the verbal procedure in court in this article "The UCC Connection" Additionally, lower level state courts and magistrates will not know what you are talking about. You have to either appeal to a higher court an/or ask for a real judge. In Federal court they will offer you a magistrate. Never accept a magistrate. You always want a real judge.I have enclosed a notification of reservation of rights.Make sure you get it notarized and then file it with the county to make it public record. This is usually the same place that you file a marriage license. After they stamp it filed, then make several copies and send it to real judges on the state and Federal level. Certified mail and return receipt. If signature is refused, then just send it first class mail and they are then responsible for its knowledge. Be sure to keep all of your mail receipts. DO NOT send it to magistrates or judges that only try traffic tickets and dog bites etc.. Send it to real judges that try real felonies. It’ll take about 15 to 30 days, but there will never be a warrant issued for your arrest or to search your property unless Ya actually harm someone. Also so you should not get a traffic ticket. Sometimes the judges fail to put you on the list for diplomatic immunity. If you do get a traffic ticket, then just appeal the decision of the traffic ticket court to the next court up and file a motion to dismiss because of reservation of rights. Then you may never hear from them again, or they will drag it out up to a year trying to wear you down or scare you into a plea bargain. But stick to your guns and do not give in. There is nothing they can do. The fact is that he will never rule on your motion but continue to drag out the case until they can no longer try you. This is usually 12 months. Then you file a motion to dismiss because you did not receive a speedy trial.To test for diplomatic immunity, I suggest removing your car tags. This way if you are not on the list and do get a ticket, this non moving violation ticket should not hurt your insurance in case ya mess up the process.If you run into trouble or do not understand something, call me or give me an email.


How the UCC 1-308 works
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UCC 1-308 is the remedy for any legal process under commercial law in the U.S.

persistancepays said...

"But stick to your guns and do not give in, even if they lock your ass up." LOLOLO!!!

persistancepays said...

§ 1-308. Performance or Acceptance Under Reservation of Rights.(a) A party that with explicit reservation of rights performs or promises performance or assents to performance in a manner demanded or offered by the other party does not thereby prejudice the rights reserved. Such words as "without prejudice," "under protest," or the like are sufficient.
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Since the Federal Corporation is just that, a corporation. It has no jurisdiction except with those that contract with it. Also see Congressional act of 1871 and USC Title 28, Part VI, chapter 176, sub chapter 176, subsection A, 3002 (15) “United States” means—(A) a Federal corporation;
The states illegally contracted with the federal corporation by passing the Uniform Commercial Code making themselves as well as the unsuspecting people subject to the Federal corporation and also to the states in their new commercial capacities. Therefore all of the laws (color of law) are contractual commercial laws and the remedy is UCC 1-308. The Uniform Commercial Code makes all crimes commercial only by contract as per 27 CFR 72.11. The problem is that you have to get into higher courts before they will recognize the remedy. The remedy however should legally and always be give without delay on demand or claim. This of course is the problem. The misdemeanor courts do not have a clue as to where their jurisdiction comes from and neither do magistrates. You have to get in front of a court with a real judge that tries felonies. The courts try to string ya along under duress of threat hoping that you can be scared into a plea. But they in the end have to honor the remedy.
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27 CFR 72.11 PART 72_DISPOSITION OF SEIZED PERSONAL PROPERTY--Table of Contents
Subpart B_Definitions Commercial crimes. Any of the following types of crimes (Federal or State): Offenses against the revenue laws; burglary; counterfeiting; forgery; kidnapping; larceny; robbery; illegal sale or possession of deadly weapons; prostitution (including soliciting, procuring, pandering, white slaving, keeping house of ill fame, and like offenses); extortion; swindling and confidence games; and attempting to commit, conspiring to commit, or compounding any of the foregoing crimes. Addiction to narcotic drugs and use of marihuana will be treated as if such were commercial crime.

Last note: The 14th amendment actually creates a lower class of “citizen of the United States” rather than the higher Citizenship of one of the several states of the union. The remedy provided to the 14th amendment, is an act by congress known as 15 United States Statute at Large, July 27, 1868, one day before the 14th Amendment took effect and also known as the "Expatriation Statute." This is your remedy to claim to be a natural Citizen of your state. This makes you a higher Citizen and no longer subject to the Article 4 loophole that also deprives you of your rights. "

persistancepays said...

"But stick to your guns and do not give in, even if they lock your ass up." LOLOLO!!!

OVIOUSLY, shout must of read this and foolow along..............> right to the gray bar hotel.....

persistancepays said...

Since the Federal Corporation is just that, a corporation. It has no jurisdiction except with those that contract with it. Also see Congressional act of 1871 and USC Title 28, Part VI, chapter 176, sub chapter 176, subsection A, 3002 (15) “United States” means—(A) a Federal corporation;



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the probelm is have you already been 'contracted' agaisnt your will by virtue of your birth/cert???

and if you have, can you void it based on lack of full dislcosure??

persistancepays said...

"To test for diplomatic immunity, I suggest removing your car tags.

i always like ron paul, but even him, sometimes i wonder....

DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF YOU TAKE THE PLATES OFF OF YOUR CAR, AND JUST TRY DRIVING AROUND, HOW LONG BEFORE YOU ARE STOPPED, AND THEN JUST TELL THE P.O.....

"...YO, PLEECE OFFSIR, DUN YO NO DAT I HAFT DIPSHIT IMMUNITY, YO CANT TOUCH ME...."

right!! your car will be towed, and shortly you will be cuffed.

ok, wrong! i got it backwards! you will be cuffed and then your car will be dogpounded.

let me no ho it works out!! lolo

persistancepays said...

has anyNONE ever tried this??

ho come the ppl that promote this stuff dont do it themselfs??

persistancepays said...

ronpaulforums.com does have some intersting stuff on it tho.

persistancepays said...

The problem is that you have to get into higher courts before they will recognize the remedy. The remedy however should legally and always be give without delay on demand or claim. This of course is the problem. *********"The misdemeanor courts do not have a clue as to where their jurisdiction comes from and neither do magistrates.******* You have to get in front of a court with a real judge that tries felonies. The courts try to string ya along under duress of threat hoping that you can be scared into a plea. But they in the end have to honor the remedy.


so yo nee $$$$ to peel everything to a high circus court. good lunck with that!!!
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persistancepays said...

REMEDY AND RECOURSE

Every system of civilized law must have two characteristics: Remedy and Recourse. Remedy is a way to get out from under that law, and you recover your loss. The Common Law, the Law Merchants, and even the Uniform Commercial Code all have remedy and recourse, but for a long time we could not find them. If you go to a law library and ask to see the Uniform Commercial Code, they will show you a shelf of books completely filled with the Uniform Commercial Code. When you pick up one volume and start to read it, it will seem to have been intentionally written to be confusing. It took us a long time to discover where the Remedy and Recourse are found in their UCC. They are found right in the first volume, at 1-308 (old 1-207) and 1-103.

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