Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

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persistancepays said...

Or Bitcoin!

OMO said...

Most people will not educate themselves on bitcoin, because the majority don't get their paycheck in bitcoin. What needs to be changed is what people are paid with, which only the corporations can change. The corporations have to say bye-bye to the federal reserve. I wouldn't hold my breath.

OMO said...

If people stood outside the corporations demanding to be paid in bitcoin, it could be the one hundreth monkey- one after another all around the country.

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OMO said...

From Oxford Dictionary of Word Origins:

pay [Middle English] The original meaning of pay was 'to pacify', and it goes back to Latin pax 'peace' (see peace). The notion of 'payment' arose from the sense of 'pacifying' a creditor.
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The only entity who is ever pacified/satisified and/or paid, is the state, the corporation/creditor or government entity. It's a creditor/debtor relationship. You agreed to be paid in federal reserve notes, therefore, the state, the corporation/creditor, or government entity, can demand the return of same. There was never any real or actual agreement, only the presumption of one.


OMO said...

That's why the creditor, the state, the corporation, or the corporate federal government, never demands payment in federal reserve notes or digits or anything else because then you could demand to see the contract. Just ask any creditor, corporation, or corp. federal or state entity what they want as payment and see what they say. They don't dare say it, because then you could demand to see the contract/agreement. There has to be one, even if they don't demand a certain currency because whatever you pay them with has to be the agreement. But don't hold your breath, they will never tell you what they want to be paid with, but they will keep demanding that you pay them. Wierd.

persistancepays said...

Bitcoin is coming! It cannot be stopped!! Sit back and watch before this year is out. O'Day is 7-16-17

persistancepays said...

Today is 7-16-17

OMO said...

Have you seen what Oregon just did? They can now take your guns without notifying you, how will this play out for the rest of the country?

To watch the two-minute video, scroll down to ALL VIDEOS third row lower left-hand corner.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/FreedomPrepperHQ/videos/?ref=page_internal

Except that this is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. What else is new, they do whatever they want to do.

OMO said...



The US Government Clamps Down on Ability of Americans To Purchase Bitcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DB4MjH9sA

persistancepays said...

bitcon aint gone nowhweres. it will be hear for decades to come, truss me.... every attack on it jsut makes it stronger and flushes out the would be attackers. the tide has turned and wont be coming back in anytime soon....

OMO said...

Do you own any bitcoin, persistance?

OMO said...

Neither do I.

persistancepays said...

i did own sme and sold it to buy some Ag which i feel will be better to own long term.

OMO said...

http://www.nationwidecoins.com/buy-gold-silver-coins/

OMO said...

We live in a digital age where everything is bought and sold with digits. How are we ever going to go back to trading with real assets? The only way is if digital world crashes to the ground giving us the opportunity to get it right once again.


OMO said...


This just in:

http://naturalnews.com/2017-07-16-health-ranger-warns-bitcoin-collapse-under-way.html

Remember: Bitcoin isn’t backed by gold. It isn’t backed by anything at all. There’s nothing technically superior to Bitcoin compared to other crypto currencies such as Ethereum or Z-cash. As a result, nearly all the growth in Bitcoin over the last few months was based on speculative greed, where people hope to cash in on the bubble of crypto currencies even though they don’t understand the real risk.

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OMO said...

Don't listen to Mike Adams.

Hear this. Start listening from 12:50 to the end

We need to take back our system!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvsbAoYYJ0&t=823s


persistancepays said...

mick adams nose a lot aabout heath rangler, but i dont no ho much he nose bout bitcons???

mogel007 said...

Discharging debt website:

http://understandcontractlawandyouwin.com/debt-discharge-private-administrative-process/mortgage-elimination/

mogel007 said...

According to Harry Dent, a well known economist, who has been right more than wrong, says in the long run, gold and silver is not the place to put your money, so he is the minority on this subject. He believes silver will go down to $5.00 an ounce and is in a negative downward spiral along with gold that will settle somewhere around $500 an ounce. He believes that the metal market is going down from 2017 to 2022 due to the deflationary cycle we are in. Maybe when the metals bottom out, it will be a good investment again.
Then you have Mr. Rickards who says that the BRIC countries will vote out the US Dollar as the supreme international currency in the middle of Oct. 2017 which will be the trigger event to the impending US crash and could start the downward spiral of the stock market whom Dent believes is headed for a 60% decline in value.
Don't know if they are right or wrong, or just trying to sell their newsletters, but it's something to watch.

persistancepays said...

harry has a dent in his analysis of the metals markets....

persistancepays said...

deflation will be limited due to the impending reset...that will loose lots of currency and smart ppl wil buy metals with it and some bitcions too

OMO said...

Peter Schiff the globalist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5brhGUykE


Decentralize Everything. Buy bitcoin.

OMO said...

Anything the centralised bankers can't control has great value. It's an idea whose time has come. Decentralized money is the greatest value.

OMO said...

Freedom is the Greatest Value!

persistancepays said...

Value is the greatest value!!!!😉😉😉

OMO said...

From Oxford Dictionary of Word Origins:

Free [Old English] The adjective free appears in the writings of King Alfred (reigned 871-99) and comes from an ancient root meaning 'to love', from which we also get *friend. Freedom is also Old English. The French philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-78) wrote, 'Man was born free, and everywhere he is in chains', whilce in the 1960 T.V. series The Prisoner, Patrick McGoohan cried, 'I am not a number, I am a free man!' [rest omitted]

OMO said...

Dollar Vigilante:

4:35 ..." We are going to have a collapse of this entire financial system. It's going to happen soon. We're not talking 20 years-- we're talking months or years at this point. It's not going to go five or ten years more without collapse."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2tbuIWxd8&t=181s


He also says there is risk in buying Bitcoin but only because it is Internet dependent- If the Internet disappears so does Bitcoin. In that case, buy physical gold.

mogel007 said...

Physical gold does not appreciate in a deflationary cycle, a cycle we are in right now. And because so much debt that can't be repaid is going to be written off, it is going to cause further deflation, NOT INFLATION. The FED wants inflation and aren't getting what they want. Gold goes up during an inflationary cycle , not a deflationary cycle of time that we are still in for the most part, so there is no "dent" in that thinking, sorry. Where has gold gone in the last 3 years? It's gone down has it not from it's high of about $1900 or there abouts? Bitcoin will go up and gold and silver will continue to go down, as the metals are a bad investment right now and a bad call. Even by using graphs, you can see that this is true through extrapolation.

Remember 3 or 4 years ago, it was said that the Dow would not go above 10,000 because some graphing theory system proved it couldn't? Well that was hogwash too. the Dow has more than doubled since that faulty advice which was based upon following and believing bad gurus.

Or you can take OMO's philosophy of investing and life: "That's right. Luck. To some extent we have control over what happens to us, but for the most part we don't."

I wonder how that philosophy is working for her? At least with that philosophy you don't have to take responsibility for any choices you make or mistakes you make in life as you can't be responsible for decisions or what happens to you because you have little control over them. Life happens to you, not the other way around.
Seems to me if a collapse is coming and you know it, there certainly is a way to profit from that knowledge. It isn't luck and it isn't the economy that is bankrupting your life, but you would be profiting from that knowledge and that timing of the collapse, assuming that you really believed what you were saying and you took it to heart.
I don't accept everything Harry Dent says, because if you did, you would also have to believe the crash is coming in 2017 as he says. Well the banking system collapsed in 1998 and in 2008, so if it crashes soon, we have been on borrowed time for a long time anyway already. I read an article that there are more renters now than at any other time. Prices need to crash (deflation) especially in real estate because the latest generation can't afford the mortgage on an average home now. If only I can pick exactly when to get out.

OMO said...


I don't have any philosophy of investing, and life does just happen to you. Did you plan to be born, or did it just happen to you? Did your parents plan to have you or did you plan to come here yourself?

I don't believe in in 401Ks or IRAs, or buying money to make money. Money should be used for TRADE, nothing else.

I don't have time for philosophizing. You have no clue.

mogel007 said...

As a matter of fact, my faith teaches I did choose to come to this earth while I lived in the premortal life as a spirit and chose my parents too, and the time of the earths existence to come also, also affirmed by my patriarchal blessing, so it's real funny that you asked. It's not happen stance as you assume, so it's not as if life happens to you with no choice and no agency:

https://mormonbeliefs.org/mormon_beliefs/mormon-beliefs-the-plan-of-salvation/the-plan-of-salvation-the-pre-existence/

You're the one that doesn't have a clue half the time.

OMO said...

Believe what you want. Who am I to tell you what to believe or not to believe?



persistancepays said...

fact is that God said that Gold is money, not fake out of thin air money.

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OMO said...


Sovereign is a gold coin...

From Oxford's Dictionary of Word Origins:

sovereign [Middle English] Latin super 'above' as in *Superior was used to form Old French soverain. The ending was then altered in the 15th century so that it looked as if the word was associated with reign. The word was used as a term for a gold coin minted in England from the time of Henry VII to Charles I; it was originally worth 22s 6d. The sovereign was revived in 1817 with a value of one pound.

mogel007 said...

This is what I said about inflation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7ccdee4a-6a20-3216-90ac-466190c98c52/ss_why-the-inflation-rate-is-a.html

OMO said...


Cash or credit? Try bitcoin or litecoin. This cafe only accepts payments in cryptocurrency.

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/?hc_ref=ARRHGg2DCZN5h0q5lOkOqygMnkkz4ZVmHbN1FMlAjpNgmMvk3o5yzff4jqZiyUc5jtw&fref=nf

persistancepays said...

http://i-uv.com/oppt-absolute/

OMO said...

holy crap, you've gotta see it to believe it!:

https://www.facebook.com/D12MUSIC/videos/vb.107591109312287/1664204316984284/?type=2&theater

persistancepays said...

that alvin handsum guy wasnt too pretty with his skinny leans for $$$ in the trillons....here is a big fat leans with $$ in the quads...quadrillons that is...


http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/North-American-Water-and-Power-Alliance.pdf


ok, when we now gonna see some nun..or preest fill a fat leans fo $$ in the quints...quintillons that is...????

price keeps gong up!!!

persistancepays said...

see SEC. 14 of the lien: ALL REAL MEN WITH HANDS AND LEGS.

IS THIS LLOOLO OR WHAT????


14. FAKE MEN WITH NO HANDS OR LEGS

persistancepays said...

ALL REAL MENS WITH HAND AND LEGS IE, 'FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMRICA' IE PLEDGE YOUR FULL LABOR AS SLAVE TO DA SINTRAL BANK

persistancepays said...

Free Money? Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts (Birth Certificate/Strawman Trust/Bond) -- Understanding the Law, Risks, and Potential Consequences

UPDATE: I received this information from Jordan Sather of Destroying the Illusion. On July 12th, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta warned that using your social security number and Fed routing numbers to pay your bills (which is the Treasury Direct Account process), could result in delays and late fees. Notice they didn't say it was illegal.

Consumer Scam Alert: Do Not Use Federal Reserve Routing Account Numbers to Pay Bills; Could Face Late Fees, Other Charges

persistancepays said...

late fees???

trap?

prbly cuase it would not be the fed res bank to warn about penalities, it would eitehr come from USDOTR or HOMESEC or DOJ or FBI or SS (SEC SERV)

thats why

fed res bank is private and cannot issue legal warnings

persistancepays said...

USDOTR US DEPT OF TR3EASURY

mogel007 said...

Dept. of Justice seized www.btc-e.com

Have you noticed? I wonder what's going on?

persistancepays said...

btw, havent heard anything from dr. flinston, or capt. krik, or even eng. scooty??

wahts gong on wit da dg??

OMO said...

Kurt and Scott need to read the book You Have the Right to Remain Innocent by James Duane. Very eye opening.

persistancepays said...

Ive got a better idea....everyone should read the book, "THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE UNIVERSE" (Gary Renard) at least twice.

"When the Holy Spirit is done correcting the Universe, it will disappear."

Read the book, its a 'must read.'

OMO said...

You mean we have to wait 5 billion years for humans to correct themselves?

persistancepays said...

Follow Feather And Touche's Giraffe accunt of her going thru ruffly the same thing as Capt. Krik and Scooty went thru with the dg, ie a trial that was biased agianst them.

As she attempts to access her (ours) TDA accts. Treasury Direct Accounts which if she is successful, will dwarf the amounts that one could ever receive from the DG settlements, ie, access to the US Treasury accts.

She like the DG was successful, but now must fight agaisnt all the charges that the g has brought up against her.

Follow it all daily here: http://i-uv.com/update-from-heather-8417-608-pm-est/

persistancepays said...

Admiralty law on trial.

http://i-uv.com/admiralty-law-on-trial-federal-reserve-tda-accounts-heather-jarraf-trial/

Like doodle Trump says, this could be yuuuuuuuuuuuge!!!!

OMO said...




https://conspiracydailyupdate.com/2017/07/29/indictment-charges-against-heather-ann-tucci-randall-keith-beane/


"It is important to keep in mind everyone is innocent UNTIL proven guilty."

It basically accuses and charges before one is given the opportunity to prove themselves innocent. No one should have to go to jail before given the opportunity to prove themselves innocent. With an indictment you're guilty before you're innocent.

Indictment is a scary word for Officially Accused and Charged.

OMO said...

Indictment is a scary word for Officially Accused and Charged, AND THAT'S WRONG.


Once you are Officially Accused and Charged it's very hard to turn that around.

persistancepays said...

I think that she will ultimately win, even if on appeal.

persistancepays said...

That means we will TDA accounts.😂😂😂💰💰💰

persistancepays said...

heres waht happened to the guy that bought the $450K motor home using his "TDA" treasury account:

If you remember how this got started was Randall being charged with the same violation, on a purported warrant from “Jasper Colorado” Sheriff’s department. Randall K Beane was followed by men purporting to be police of several agencies, even passed while he was driving, they pointed at him and laughed. When Randall arrived at the RV dealer (I’m recounting the story as I was told it – if those that were there can correct any inaccuracies please contact me and I will fix them). Randall was then surrounded by these same purported officers, some FBI, some Federal Marshalls, some County Sheriff, some Knoxville police. Randall was then yanked out of the motor home (and those doors are quite high off the ground), elbow butted to the head left bleeding on the ground, and kicked and stomped on. An ambulance was already in place (something we have seen in Morocco) as they intended to do violence to him. He was treated by the medics for the head wound. He was assaulted by officers once more inside the jail according to those who have spoken to him. He was kept in a very isolated state, and is now only allowed postcards from friends. If he gets those at all.

persistancepays said...

sorta similar to whqt krik and scoot went thourgh. only for even bigger stake$....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

persistancepays said...

only theres even more to this story here: http://i-uv.com/the-view-from-the-ground-part-1/

it gets even more interesting......???????

persistancepays said...

tehy even charged them with money landering.

when the source of funds was well known and proven.

Mind you money laundering is something the drug cartels do, intelligence agencies (of all countries) do, and the mafia does to hide the source of funds. Yet nothing was hidden, the source of funds was REVEALED to be Randall’s TDA account at the Federal Reserve. Randall used the account with his Social Security and his birth name on it. That is not a bogus account, Randall proved it was quite real. I worked as a consultant at VISA many years ago in transaction processing, and whether its a credit card account, or a debit card processed through the ACH system, those accounts and names MUST match or they do not go through. Randall’s withdrew $1.5 million, approximately $500,000 of which he bought a motorhome with (it is after all his account!), there are billions in each account.

persistancepays said...

"....yo, come on judge, i only took $1.5M from my account and its got billons in it.....gimme a break, will ya!!.."

LOLLLOOLLOLOOOLLLLLOLOLLLLLLLLOLLLLOLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLOLOLLLOLOLL!!!!!

persistancepays said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/magazine/she-was-convicted-of-killing-her-mother-prosecutors-withheld-the-evidence-that-would-have-freed-her.html


tennesee must be tough!!

just look at the abouve article, in addition to many previous articels where the police abuse the right of civil forgeiture acts. stopping out of statge motorists and just taking their money for no reason and calling it drug money or landering money.

isnt tennessee the state where they assinated jerry kane, the only man to this day who was able to clear mortages and was sooo good, that the only way that they felt that they could stop him was by killing him outside a walmart.

ive gpt to google it, but i think that it was during a stop in tennesee?

if i recall, they riddled his car with so many bullets, it looked like the car that they caught up with john dillinger many decades ago.

killed him, his kid and their dog too in the car.

never been solved as to waht happened.












persistancepays said...

kanes vids are still on youtube but i think that his death scarred aeveryone off from using his process.

persistancepays said...

just youtubed searched it, yep it was memphis tn where they caoueght up with him.

Police officers killed web cam catch shoot out dead in West Memphis by Jerry and Joe Kane part 3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBFblUr05o

persistancepays said...

the batards may have gotten away with it, but they wont escaape karma.

persistancepays said...

WARNING!!!THE ABOVE VIDEO IS SAD....WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK!! FIRST THEY RAM HIS CAR WITH A PICKUP AND THEN SHOOT THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF IT.

i remember following this case years ago, apparently this vid 'surfaced' some time after the original event occured....

watching it makes you aware that the 'corporation' will go to any lenghts to protect itself, even cold murder.

kurt and scott are relatively lucky that the same fate did not happen to them.

the ptb are real motherfu*kers who deserve a fate worse than death

if there is any solace at all in hte vid, at least i was wrong, the dog escaped by jumping out the window...the poor bastard.🐕

persistancepays said...

8.6.17 mid day Update

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/heather-small-square-photo.png
[11:54:59 AM] Terran/AK: From a prior call today: Just spoke with Heather she said the families are talking about dismissing this. They know they lost and they don’t like the way this is flowing. She thinks she might not have to leave DC…

[11:55:49 AM] Terran/AK: Just got another call… things are flowing fast now. She’s released the families from any legal retribution and liability for jailing her.

[11:56:25 AM] Terran/AK: They are working to get the case dismissed and everyone have access to their funds.

Source Link: http://i-uv.com/current-status-of-events-now-unfold-hatj-washington-dc/

persistancepays said...

so its soon all gong down....global reset...the rv...global prospeity pkgs....tda accounts....even all of bruly b@@ls HYPEs....can yo stand it all!?

persistancepays said...

even da dg stale mints starting to taste good now!!

persistancepays said...

all with timing....from the plantens...

today: lunar eclipse

8-21: solar eclipse cut usa in half from oregon to so. caroliina i beleive

9-23: rev 12 a woman clothed with 12 stars at her head, the moon at her feet, bathed in the sun....giving birth.

constellation virgo 12 stars at her head. moon at her feet. sun nearby. planet jupiter in her "body' for 9 months and exit virgo on the 23rd

all these alingments have never happened before.

check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_l2yS6H2o&t=1589s

whats gong to happen on the 23rd???? ho nose?????

sum thing big maybe????!

OMO said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq6Ez8oYDrU

"You don't even PAY TAXES. They TAKE TAXES.
You get your check... MONEY GONE!
That's not a payment. That's a A JACK!” Chris Rock

mogel007 said...

This is why I'm up late and not in bed. I heard a rumor a few days ago , Mrs. Heather Tucci actually said, and how could she even know this, that the Federal Reserve Banks are going to allow everyone access to their private Treasury Direct Accounts real soon. She and her her cohort is in prison right now on money laundering and bank fraud charges because they bought a half a million dollar motor home that the Feds repossessed after beating the man up and together they accessed another million from this account that supposedly doesn't exist. Once she proves that these accounts exist, the charges are moot and she goes free because all charges would have to be dropped. She also maintains that the powers that be are getting close to dropping all charges.

Well she has been saying for a long time that everyone has in their accounts a minimum of 5 billion dollars according to the provision of the One People's Public Trust records that in essence foreclosed on all the banks on Christmas Day 2012.

Well today August 9, 2017 the Federal Reserve announces on their website new rules on how settlements among banks are going to work and that the Federal Reserve is going to share the risk and have other banks act as joint account holders on their liabilities. Some say that this is proof that this new System is getting ready to allow people free access to their Treasury Direct Accounts unabated unlike the past. . I read the update it's about 31 pages long and boring reading and hard to understand it's real implications.
Except one statement caught my eyes cold in the footnote on page 28:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/files/other20170809a1.pdf

"The Board’s PSR Policy sets forth standards regarding the management of risks that financial market infrastructures (FMIs) present to the financial system when an FMI expects to settle a daily aggregate gross value of $5 billion on a given day and when providing accounts and services to FMIs."

Isn't 5 billion the exact amount that is suppose to be in a TDA? Coincidence why this exact figure was used in an example talking about risk? LOL Or maybe not? Maybe unfettered access to these accounts that don't exist that the FBI says is a scam, really are real!!!! Some really strange events happening.

mogel007 said...

No one knows what is happening on the 23rd? Oh contrare!!!! On the federal reserve link I just gave you on one of the last pages of their new payment policy/system we read:

As of the date of publication of the final guidelines, those expectations are identified in Part I, section C
of the PSR Policy, “General policy expectations for other payment systems within the scope of the policy”
(as amended effective September 23, 2016).

The coincidences are starting to add up.

mogel007 said...

When you get too many coincidences, they start to look more like facts or reality or maybe something to believe in.

persistancepays said...

mongrel, you really want to check out what these vids say about sept 23.

i hardly ever recommend anything, but as ive been on this blog from day one, originally as SOP if you recall, then you should wathc the following series about this date upcoming. i started watching and watched the whole series through and could nto stop till the end. 5+ hrs


here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbXR8aAs3U

something about "new informantion" that god told prophet Daniel to "...seal up the Books, until the *time of the end*.."

info that could not have previously been available w/o modern technology.

i think htat you will find the series very, very interesting to say the least...

when you get to the link, after watching the intro, click "more" and the series of 13 vids will be exposed as links and two detailed intro vids as well.

persistancepays said...

yes, the date there is sept 23 a year ago

persistancepays said...

the queston really is then, we know that the ptb/bankers dont give anything up for nothing... so?

if they are allowing access to all this $$$ at this point, DO THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT?

IE, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS SEPT 23 DATE AND/OR PROPEHT DANIELS 'TIME OF HTE END' ??

so that it really wont matter to them whether or not they give up the funds, as it wont make any difference at this point becase of what they know is coming??

tigers love to fight...when a tiger lays down...something is wrong....???

dont get me wrong, im glad that they will allow access to our trust fund accoutns, but i wonder why after so long?

did they just 'give up' fighting it?

or is the match over for everyone?

mogel007 said...

99% of these people trying to access their TDA are still getting shut down as they are getting these banking transactions reversed as a general expectation. One guy on Heather's blog indicated that these accounts are no longer at the main 12 Treasury Reserve Banks, but are now at banks that have "Trust", "American", "United" or "Federal" as part of their bank name. I interpreted this as that these are the banks who are the "joint account holder banks" that the news at the Federal Reserve talked about who will now have this money of ours. Is this an attempt to hide this money or help us obtain this money, can't really tell. Just too many coincidences and timing that makes you wonder.
I read one story of a homeless guy for 12 years I think he was living in his car that was able to access over a million dollars and put it in a brokerage account and then somehow the funds were frozen or taken.
Another guy in today's video posted indicated that he accessed over a quarter of a million dollars, and the funds were not reversed, however, the bank is going to close his bank account, and issue a cashiers check to him for the money in it, as the TDA authenticity and money there was not questioned. Apparently, these banks are afraid of retaliation from someone high up in the food chain, by allowing us to have our money, but there's too many success stories to believe the FBI's story that these TDA's are a scam and don't exist. Heather indicated that there are over 10 million people that have accessed their TDA's, but that sounds like a real exaggeration to me.

mogel007 said...

Why are the powers that be/were, seemingly giving up and giving us our funds in some instances?
According to Heather, it's because the masses are getting more educated and know that these accounts exist and the jig is up, so to speak.

mogel007 said...

So what do you think according to the videos is coming?

persistancepays said...

agreed. 10 million ppl accessing is way, way too much.

my op is lucky if its evben 10 ppl who have accessed any $$$

agreed. ppl have wised up a great deal, but it still doesnt account for the dog lying down in the fight.

doesnt matter how many ppl wise up, all they (ptb) have to control is a few, like judges for intance....so, im not so sure.

like ive said, take a look at those sept 23 date videos ive posted the link for and then you decide for yourself.

my philosophy is nothingis that easssssy....theres always a catch.

plz watch the series of videos and and then come back and comment your opninion on them.

if you use some discernemnet, i think that you will agree that there is something to it, not that the world is going to end on that date, but some occurence of significance.














persistancepays said...

maybe things are starting to change??

spain to jail 65 central bankers

is the jig really up??

http://www.alternativenewsnetwork.net/spain-follows-iceland-65-top-central-bankers-facing-jail-sentence-crimes-people/

OMO said...

Unless the TDA pays the debt then I don't see the point in accessing it. If all there is in the account is more Federal Reserve Notes or digits it's not going to pay anything. It might discharge the debt but it won't pay it. FRNS are false pledges because they cannot be redeemed in gold. See definition of mortgage below: "the debt dies [only] when the pledge [frn] is redeemed [is paid]."

Mortgage. See mortuary

Mortuary. [LME] In the middle Ages a mortuary was a gift claimed by a parish priest from a deceased person's estate. The word derives from Latin mortuus 'dead', the source also of mortgage [LME] 'deaden', literally a 'dead pledge' because the debt dies when the pledge is redeemed; and mortify [LME] 'deaden', and related to murder. The current sense, 'a room or building in which dead bodies are kept;, dates from the mid 19th centruy. In Paris the bodies of people found dead formerly were taken to a building a the eastern end of the Ile de la Cite, where they were kep until identifed. It was called the Morgue (from a French word for haughtiness or sad expression). By the 1830's morgue was being used in English for mortuaries; the parallel use of French morgue is not recorded until the 1940s and was borrowed back from English.



OMO said...

FRN is false pledges (promise) because it can no longer be redeemed in gold. An FRN is a promise to pay but the note can no longer be redeemed therefore it is a false promise. You got scammed when you took the Note thinking it was good for gold- after all isn't that what a dollar is (a gold or silver coin)?

persistancepays said...

can be redeemed in gold, eh?

ok, then whatever y0u want to call it, put say $10,000,000 of tda's or whatver in my checking acct. and lets see how much gold that i will buy with it?

something about gift horses.....

persistancepays said...

Winston shrout to get sentenced on September 26.

I have attached Winston Shrout's jury verdict, guilty on 19 counts -

7 counts of making or producing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of presenting or passing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of mailing or shipping a fictitious financial instrument
6 counts of willful failure to file an income tax return (for years 2009 - 2014)



Geeeeez..... he's got so many fictious instruments, he could have his own band. 😂

persistancepays said...

They even missed a few instruments...

Placing fictious instruments in an envelope- 5 years

Licking stamp for express purpose of attaching to envelope containing fictious instruments.

Attaching stamp to envelope containing fictious instruments- 7 years

Picking up envelope with express purpose to attach stamp to envelope containing fictious instruments.

Sealing an envelope containing fictious instruments- 9 years

Breathing air with express purpose to conspire to commit any/all of the above. Max. 99 years.

persistancepays said...

[Lawmen: 6674] Winston Shrout Sentencing set for 26 Sept 2017
L
Bob Hurt
Sun 8/13/2017 5:39 PM
LAWMEN GROUPS
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I have attached Winston Shrout's jury verdict, guilty on 19 counts -
7 counts of making or producing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of presenting or passing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of mailing or shipping a fictitious financial instrument
6 counts of willful failure to file an income tax return (for years 2009 - 2014)
Patriot Myth Monger Winston Shrout will spend years in prison (and possibly die there) for practicing what he preached - bogus methods of obtaining undeserved money and of not paying taxes. He might have fared better by following David Myrland's or Pete Hendrickson's recommendations for avoiding payment of taxes one does not owe. See below Winston Shrout's docket report as of today, from PACER.GOV.

If you have sat at the feet of a patriot myth monger, hanging on his every word, struggling to squeeze sense out of his preachments and absorb them into your being, pay heed to the fate of Winston Shrout. We don't know its full impact on his life, and we certainly cannot envy it. He could have avoided the fate had he not tried to "Trick" the system by embracing mythological nonsense about the US Government and our status and obligations under the law.

If you have followed a patriot myth monger, seek competent legal counsel before you get into serious trouble.


COMPLEX, JT, PROTECTIVE ORD,
U.S. District Court
District of Oregon (Portland (3))
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 3:15-cr-00438-JO-1


Case title: USA v. Shrout

Date Filed: 12/08/2015

persistancepays said...

[Lawmen: 6674] Winston Shrout Sentencing set for 26 Sept 2017
L
Bob Hurt
Sun 8/13/2017 5:39 PM
LAWMEN GROUPS
3 recipients
To:
lawmen (lawmen@googlegroups.com);
Lawsters (lawsters@googlegroups.com);
GovCuff (govcuff@googlegroups.com);
Winston Shrout Verdict.pdf
83 KB

Save to OneDrive - Personal
EvernoteWunderlist
I have attached Winston Shrout's jury verdict, guilty on 19 counts -
7 counts of making or producing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of presenting or passing a fictitious financial instrument
3 counts of mailing or shipping a fictitious financial instrument
6 counts of willful failure to file an income tax return (for years 2009 - 2014)
Patriot Myth Monger Winston Shrout will spend years in prison (and possibly die there) for practicing what he preached - bogus methods of obtaining undeserved money and of not paying taxes. He might have fared better by following David Myrland's or Pete Hendrickson's recommendations for avoiding payment of taxes one does not owe. See below Winston Shrout's docket report as of today, from PACER.GOV.

If you have sat at the feet of a patriot myth monger, hanging on his every word, struggling to squeeze sense out of his preachments and absorb them into your being, pay heed to the fate of Winston Shrout. We don't know its full impact on his life, and we certainly cannot envy it. He could have avoided the fate had he not tried to "Trick" the system by embracing mythological nonsense about the US Government and our status and obligations under the law.

If you have followed a patriot myth monger, seek competent legal counsel before you get into serious trouble.


COMPLEX, JT, PROTECTIVE ORD,
U.S. District Court
District of Oregon (Portland (3))
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 3:15-cr-00438-JO-1


Case title: USA v. Shrout

Date Filed: 12/08/2015
Assigned to: Judge Robert E. Jones



Defendant (1)


Winston Shrout
represented by
Ruben L. Iniguez
Office of the Federal Public Defender
101 SW Main Street
Suite 1700
Portland, OR 97204
(503) 326-2123
Fax: (503) 326-5524
Email: ruben_iniguez@fd.org
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment

Pending Counts


Disposition
26:7203 - Willful Failure to File Return
(1-6)


18:514(a)(1) - Fictitious Obligations
(1s-7s)


18:514(a)(2) - Fictitious Obligations
(8s-10s)


18:514(a)(3) - Fictitious Obligations
(11s-13s)


26:7203 - Willful Failure to File Return
(14s-19s)



Highest Offense Level (Opening)


Felony



Terminated Counts


Disposition
None



Highest Offense Level (Terminated)


None



Complaints


Disposition
None



Plaintiff


USA
represented by
Stuart A. Wexler
Department of Justice
Tax Division
601 D Street NW
Washington, DC 20004
202-514-5496
Fax: 202-514-9623
Email: stuart.a.wexler@usdoj.gov
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Designation: Retained

Lee Langston
Department of Justice
Tax Division
601 D Street NW
Washington, DC 20001
914-373-1566
Email: Lee.F.Langston@usdoj.gov
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED

Ryan R. Raybould
Department of Justice
Tax Division - Western Criminal Enforcement Section
601 D St., NW
Room 7374
Washington, DC 20004
202-514-5624
Email: ryan.r.raybould@usdoj.gov
TERMINATED: 04/06/2017
Designation: Retained

OMO said...

can be redeemed in gold, eh?

ok, then whatever y0u want to call it, put say $10,000,000 of tda's or whatver in my checking acct. and lets see how much gold that i will buy with it?

something about gift horses.....
____________________________________

Typical sheeple response... What will I buy with it?


OMO said...

From the book You Have A Right to Remain Innocent

DON'T PLEAD THE FIFTH


"If I ask my son whether he saw a movie I had forbidden him to watch, and he remains silent, the import of his silence is clear."

--Supreme Ct. Justice Antonin Scalia, Mitchell v. United States, 526 U.S. 314, 332 (1999) (dissenting opinion)


How many congresscriminals to date have pleaded the 5th?

persistancepays said...

Now, Ms. Tucci-Jarraf, I will ask you to please face the Deputy Clerk of Court to be sworn , and
then we’ll proceed.

(Defendant sworn)

What follows in red is missing text in the transcript of the swearing in (see subsequent blog post for context of its importance)

Deputy Clerk: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: By due sworn declaration. . .

(pause)

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: Can I have a second?

The Court: Sure.

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: OK.

The Court: OK that’s it.

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: No. May I proceed?

The Court: We still see you did it.

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: No, No. Standing due identification correction. I am source of all that is. Original. Nunc pro tunc, praetera, preterea and I do swear to speak only true, accurate, and complete.

[Begin of Court's Truncated Version]

THE DEFENDANT: Withstanding identification correction of being the source of all that is, I swear to state the truth .

[End of Court Version]

persistancepays said...

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persistancepays said...

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persistancepays said...

func no luc...func no luc....func no luc...func no luc...func no luc...func no luc....func no luc...func no luc...func no luc...func no luc....func no luc...func no luc...func no luc...func no luc....func no luc...func no luc...

persistancepays said...

no luck alright!!

persistancepays said...



HEATHER ANN TUCCI JARRAF AND RANDALL BEENE WERE UNLAWFULLY ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED FOR USING THEIR TREASURY DIRECT/ HIDDEN SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST ACCOUNT FROM HJR 192 AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE SLAVE TRADE. THEY BOTH HAVE PROVIDED ALL OWNERSHIP AND TITLE OF THEIR TRUST.

HEATHER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING WITH TRUMP AT THE TIME OF HER ARREST AND HAS BEEN DERAILED AND KEPT FROM SUBMITTING CRUCIAL DOCUMENTS TO HER DEFENSE BY JUDGE DEBORAH A ROBINSON OF THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. WE ARE ASKING THAT ALL DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE DEEMED NOT ADMISSIBLE WRONGLY BY THIS CORRUPT JUDGE WHICH HAS ALLOWED POLITICIANS INCLUDING OBAMA’S MOTHER, A FEDERAL MOST WANTED FUGITIVE GO FREE , FOR THESE DOCUMENTS TO BE ACCEPTED AND ALLOWED TO PROVE HER AND RANDALL INNOCENCE AND FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DISMISSED BEING THE ACCOUNTS USED WERE IN FACT THEIR ACCOUNTS IN THEIR ALL CAPS STRAWMAN NAME IN THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

THE FRAUD COMMITTED WAS BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR CREATING THESE ACCOUNTS AND TRADING ON AMERICANS LIVES FOR PROFIT. AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO BE LAUNCHED BY A UNBIASED THIRD PARTY INTO THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACCOUNTS EXISTENCE, THE ARRESTING OFFICERS OF BOTH RANDALL BEENE (ESPECIALLY HIM FOR THE POLICE BRUTALITY AND TREATMENT THAT OCCURRED ON HIS ARREST WHICH IS ON FILM) ,AND HEATHER TUCCI WHICH HER ARREST WAS VERY UNORTHODOX AS WELL (MORE INFO CAN BE PROVIDED), THE PUBLIC DEFENDER REPRESENTING HER, THE JUDGE FOR HEATHER MAGISTRATE DEBORAH A ROBINSON FOR HER UNFAIR, ILLEGAL AND CORRUPT HANDLING OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND THE JUDGE FOR RANDALL BEENE AS WELL, AND FINALLY THE CHARGING/ARRESTING AGENCIES.

THE GENIE HAS ALREADY ESCAPED THE BOTTLE AND AFTER WELL OVER A MILLION HAVE WOKEN TO THE TRUTH OF THESE ACCOUNTS AND THE COUNTLESS PROOF WE HAVE COLLECTED ALONG WITH FACTS THIS NEEDS TO BE BROADCAST ON THE CRIMINALLY SILENT MEDIA EVEN AFTER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS CALLED EACH MEDIA OUTLET THE SAME DAY A DIFFERENT ONE EVERY DAY IN A COORDINATED EFFORT. THE FACTS ARE IN AND THE FED SHOULD BE SITTING WHERE HEATHER AND RANDY ARE TODAY AND THOSE PATRIOTS SHOULD BE FREE AT ONCE!

https://youtu.be/oMC1ho2L6rM

http://i-uv.com/free-heather-ann-tucci-jarraf-and-randall-beene-for-their-unlawful-imprisonment/

persistancepays said...

interesting that they have extradicted her to tennessee.

isnt that where jerry jones met his fate???

persistancepays said...

I meant jerzy kane.

OMO said...

who's jerzy kane?


persistancepays said...

jerry kane

anyways, interesting that heather touche is bringing her girafe to tenseas where jerzy was takin out.

will they try to take feathers off the ckickn there again??

persistancepays said...

Update: 8.18.17 HATJ is now at her new hotel:

Irwin County Detention Center

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf ID 51356
132 Cotton Drive, Ocilla, GA 31774
Telephone: 229-468-4121

White postcards Only- your name but no return address


On her way 2 10 C's perhaps?

persistancepays said...

can ya plz hurry up with those tda accounts?

i have been waiting for decades for the dg settlemints, and they never happened.

i have been waiting decades for the rv dinar, and it never happened.

i have been waiting decades for bruly b@@ls HYPEs, and they never happened.\

now, you give me hope to access my tda treasury account, and well...i want it t(o)da(y), i got some things i gotta buy!

persistancepays said...

why only white poscards the can??

persistancepays said...



All these courts are privately owned trading companies. The united States district courts are all owned...those are your article one courts. They're all owned by the united States attorney's executive offices out of Washington DC which is a privately owned corporation. They're article one legislative tribunals. They're not courts. They have a DUNS number, they have a pit code, sip code, NAICS number (North America Identification Security Classification). You have to have that number in order to trade internationally. All these courts are registered with the DOD, Department of Defense. They have a DUNS number which is Data Universal Numbering System. That's a Dun & Bradstreet. You have to be registered with CCR, Contractors Central registration under the DOD. They have another department called the DLIS, Defense Logistics Information Service. The DLIS issues a case code that's spelled CAGE, Commercial And Government Entity which corresponds to the bank account. They have a bank account. They take everything that you file into the court and they securitize it. And these banks [ ] and all these banks are registered, they have a depository agreement, a security agreement and an escrow agreement. And most of them are registered with the Federal Reserve bank of New York city

persistancepays said...

All these courts are privately owned trading companies. The united States district courts are all owned...those are your article one courts. They're all owned by the united States attorney's executive offices out of Washington DC which is a privately owned corporation. They're article one legislative tribunals. They're not courts. They have a DUNS number, they have a pit code, sip code, NAICS number (North America Identification Security Classification). You have to have that number in order to trade internationally. All these courts are registered with the DOD, Department of Defense. They have a DUNS number which is Data Universal Numbering System. That's a Dun & Bradstreet. You have to be registered with CCR, Contractors Central registration under the DOD. They have another department called the DLIS, Defense Logistics Information Service. The DLIS issues a case code that's spelled CAGE, Commercial And Government Entity which corresponds to the bank account. They have a bank account. They take everything that you file into the court and they securitize it. And these banks [ ] and all these banks are registered, they have a depository agreement, a security agreement and an escrow agreement. And most of them are registered with the Federal Reserve bank of New York city. And they use what they call...North Carolina uses a circular 16, they use as their depository agreement. They take public funds and they deposit them under a...its called a depository resolution agreement. And they have a security agreement which the clerk of the courts signs with the bank. And they have an escrow agent that acts as the go-between the federal reserve bank that they have the account with...so all these courts are taking your money and funneling it into an escrow account. Most of them are in New York. There's 60 trillion dollars of your money in the federal reserve bank of New York city. And they've told the courts not to rule against the banks on these foreclosure cases. They're all in bed together. And what these lawyers are doing is acting as private debt collectors. And under the Debt Collectors Practices Act, its called the FDCPA and its title 15 section 1692. In order to be...when you're a public debt collector you have to be registered with the government, and you have to have a license and you have to have a bond in order to collect debt. Well these attorneys are what you call private debt collectors and they don't have a...the attorneys are exempted by the BAR

persistancepays said...






All these courts are privately owned trading companies. The united States district courts are all owned...those are your article one courts. They're all owned by the united States attorney's executive offices out of Washington DC which is a privately owned corporation. They're article one legislative tribunals. They're not courts. They have a DUNS number, they have a pit code, sip code, NAICS number (North America Identification Security Classification). You have to have that number in order to trade internationally. All these courts are registered with the DOD, Department of Defense. They have a DUNS number which is Data Universal Numbering System. That's a Dun & Bradstreet. You have to be registered with CCR, Contractors Central registration under the DOD. They have another department called the DLIS, Defense Logistics Information Service. The DLIS issues a case code that's spelled CAGE, Commercial And Government Entity which corresponds to the bank account. They have a bank account. They take everything that you file into the court and they securitize it. And these banks [ ] and all these banks are registered, they have a depository agreement, a security agreement and an escrow agreement. And most of them are registered with the Federal Reserve bank of New York city. And they use what they call...North Carolina uses a circular 16, they use as their depository agreement. They take public funds and they deposit them under a...its called a depository resolution agreement. And they have a security agreement which the clerk of the courts signs with the bank. And they have an escrow agent that acts as the go-between the federal reserve bank that they have the account with...so all these courts are taking your money and funneling it into an escrow account. Most of them are in New York. There's 60 trillion dollars of your money in the federal reserve bank of New York city. And they've told the courts not to rule against the banks on these foreclosure cases. They're all in bed together. And what these lawyers are doing is acting as private debt collectors. And under the Debt Collectors Practices Act, its called the FDCPA and its title 15 section 1692. In order to be...when you're a public debt collector you have to be registered with the government, and you have to have a license and you have to have a bond in order to collect debt. Well these attorneys are what you call private debt collectors and they don't have a...the attorneys are exempted by the BAR association on that provision, but their firm is not. The firm they work for has to be registered and they have to have a license and a bond and they don't. And all these court cases that you're involved in, these attorneys are acting as private debt collectors. And what they're doing is collecting money from you as private debt collectors and they're not licensed or bonded to do that. And they do this through what they call Warrant of Attorney. Black's law dictionary of 1856 defines what a warrant of an attorney is. Its like a writ of execution. Its like a put or a call. When you do a marching call that means they use it to buy equity securities. Cause they securitize everything that you file into court which means they turn it into a negotiable instrument. Then they sell it as a commercial item. They call them distressed debt, these debt collectors, that what Unifund is, they come in and buy up all these court judgments as distressed debt. Then they put them into hedge funds and they sell them to investors globally. And of course when you get into selling debt instruments you're creating a security risk. Anytime you get into risk management you have to have re-insurance. That's where Luer Hermes comes in. They're an underwriting company. And they're a sub division of Alliance SE out of Munich Germany. And they're the US agency that acts as a bond holder for Alliance SE is PIMCO bonds who takes all your

persistancepays said...

is PIMCO bonds who takes all your securities, they pool them, and that's what they do on these mortgage loans, go to their web site and it'll tell you that's what they do. All of your mortgage loans are securities. The notes have a maturity of more than 9 months so they're a security by definition. If you go to title 15 section 77 A b 1 it tells you that any note with a maturity of more than 9 months is a security by legal definition and an investment contract. So when you sign and indorse these notes as the drawer and the maker you're in an investment contract. And you gave them a security. They take the security and they securitize it. As soon as they securitize it and indorse it for payment, they've securitized it. The loan is no longer secured. They've collapsed the trust and there's no corpus in the trust under probate law. And what they do is sell it as a mortgage backed security. Well PIMCO takes the mortgage backed security pools over and sells them as bonds. So bonds actually come from pooled securities. And they sell these on the TBA market globally. And all these courts are involved in that. And the only time you can stop them is when you make them liable and that's what I've been doing. I do a letter rogatory which is a letter of instruction under the Hague convention. And its under title 18 section 1781 and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure I believe its 28 B. And you tell them what you want them to do. You make a contract with them. When you go into these courts you contract with them. And they run the court room.

persistancepays said...

http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2012/09/why-you-guys-arent-winning-in-court.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StopThePirates+%28Stop+The+Pirates%29

Dr. Caligari said...

I do a letter rogatory which is a letter of instruction under the Hague convention. And its under title 18 section 1781 and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure I believe its 28 B. And you tell them what you want them to do. You make a contract with them.

A letter rogatory has nothing to do with giving instructions to the court. It is a mechanism where a court in one country requests a court in another country to obtain evidence in the second country that is needed in a trial in the first country.

There is no section 1781 of Title 18.

Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23(b) is about class actions; it has nothing to do with letters rogatory.

persistancepays said...

yes, you do a derogatory letter to the court in the hague, dont make it vague, and ask them to obtain evidence for the court in the usa to be used agiasnt the banks

persistancepays said...

dr. caligula works for the banks, there very much is something called a derogatory letter.


28 U.S. Code § 1781 - Transmittal of letter rogatory or request
US Code

(a) The Department of State has power, directly, or through suitable channels—
(1) to receive a letter rogatory issued, or request made, by a foreign or international tribunal, to transmit it to the tribunal, officer, or agency in the United States to whom it is addressed, and to receive and return it after execution; and
(2) to receive a letter rogatory issued, or request made, by a tribunal in the United States, to transmit it to the foreign or international tribunal, officer, or agency to whom it is addressed, and to receive and return it after execution.
(b) This section does not preclude—
(1) the transmittal of a letter rogatory or request directly from a foreign or international tribunal to the tribunal, officer, or agency in the United States to whom it is addressed and its return in the same manner; or
(2) the transmittal of a letter rogatory or request directly from a tribunal in the United States to the foreign or international tribunal, officer, or agency to whom it is addressed and its return in the same manner.

Dr. Caligari said...
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Dr. Caligari said...

I never said there was no such thing as a letter rogatory. I explained what it was, and your quote confirms that I was correct-- it is a request from a court in one country to a court in another country; it is not a direction from a litigant to a court as to how to rule, and does not create any "contract" between you and the court.

And by citing 28 U.S.C. you confirm that your citations to Title 18 and to Rule 23(b) were incorrect.

OMO said...

Ever wonder what happened to silver as currency? It was taken out of circulation by the Crime of 1873 (Coinage Act of 1873).



https://www.unc.edu/~salemi/Econ006/Friedman_Crime_1873.pdf




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinage_Act_of_1873

When silver prices dropped in 1876, producers sought to have their bullion struck at the Mint, only to learn that this was no longer possible. The matter became a major political controversy that lasted the remainder of the century, pitting those who valued the deflationary gold standard against those who believed free coinage of silver to be necessary for economic prosperity. Accusations were made that the passage of the act had been secured through corruption, though there is little evidence of this. The gold standard was explicitly enacted into law in 1900, and was completely abandoned by the U.S. in 1971.


The earliest use of the phrase "Crime of 1873" in congressional debate was by Colorado Senator Henry M. Teller, who on July 10, 1890, stated, "the fight for free coinage [of silver] is on, and it will stay on, too, till the will of the people shall be heard in the enactment of a law that shall put silver back where it belongs and where it would have been but for the blunder or the crime of 1873".[101] The act had long been referred to as a "crime" without the exact phrase being used; in one 1889 speech, Nevada Senator William M. Stewart called it a "crime" seven times. He had voted for it in 1873.[102][103]




OMO said...

Silver IS the people's money. Pay no attention to any state legislation calling for making gold a legal tender. Instead, demand legislation calling for SILVER as legal tender payment of debt.

persistancepays said...

again, not to be derogatory, but i can request a court (da vague) to request info from another court here in usa.

so technically, yes the request is coming from a foreign court, but i made the request of them to do so. so in effect, i put the ball in motion. so my original statement is correct

persistancepays said...

soon sheetcoins will be da peepls money. no sheet?

Dr. Caligari said...

again, not to be derogatory, but i can request a court (da vague) to request info from another court here in usa.

so technically, yes the request is coming from a foreign court, but i made the request of them to do so. so in effect, i put the ball in motion. so my original statement is correct


Nope, doesn't work that way. You file your lawsuit in the United States. If the U.S. court doesn't dismiss your case and allows it to go on to the discovery phase, you can ask the U.S. court to ask the Swiss court for evidence. It's up to the U.S. court whether to ask the Swiss court to do so, and even if it does, the Swiss court can refuse.

I actually used letters rogatory once in a case. It's a very convoluted process that takes years-- first, you ask the U.S. court to issue letters rogatory; the other side opposes the request; the U.S. court then rules. If it grants the request, the court sends the request to the U.S. Department of Justice. The U.S. Department of Justice gives the request to the U.S. State Department. The the State Department translates the request into French and gives the request to the Swiss Foreign Ministry, which gives it to the Swiss Ministry of Justice, which gives it to a Swiss court. If the Swiss court decides to accept the request (and Swiss courts are notoriously reluctant to do so), it gathers the evidence using Swiss legal proceedings. It then gives that evidence to the Swiss Justice Ministry, which gives it to the Swiss Foreign Ministry, which translates it into English and gives it to the U.S. Department of State, which gives it to the U.S. Justice Department, which gives it to the Court which gives it to you. At any stage of this process, the paperwork can sit on some bureaucrat's desk for months, unopened; or, even worse, anyone at any stage can decide that the request is not in proper form or is otherwise defective and refuse to pass it on.

Even if all of this works-- and it often doesn't-- the process takes so long that the evidence may no longer be useful once you get it, and what you get back is rarely exactly what you asked for.

In any event, the key point is that it is a request (not command) for evidence, not an instruction to a court how to rule on a case, and it doesn't ever create a contract with the court.

persistancepays said...

No matter...soon we will have access to our team accounts:

Update: 8.24.17 HATJ, did not call in early this morning. She is on the move to her next Hotel. When we have updates I will let everyone know.

persistancepays said...

Not team, but tda accounts...

persistancepays said...

Is it hotel calipornia I wonder?? 😄

persistancepays said...

Try to time it for 11:11am. Missed it....grrrrr!

persistancepays said...

has anyone ever tried to decrypt the prophetic video on youtube put out by the loony marty??

what they have planned for da shepple??

here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tclgtA2BABM

persistancepays said...

FEATHER AND TOUCHE' GIRAFFE UPDATE 8-25:


Update: 8.24.17 9:06 PM PDT HATJ called me. She is now in TN.

HATJ will have a Jurisdiction Hearing 10:30 AM EST

persistancepays said...

like you figured,shes gong to tenseas to figure out wha hoppens to jerry kane???

persistancepays said...

maybe she should look at the video that was posted above taken during the 'shootout' in tenseas. you might have thougth that they were taking down john dillger with wyatt earp and the clinton gang.

persistancepays said...

Update: 8.24.17 9:06 PM PDT HATJ called me. She is now in TN.

HATJ will have a Jurisdiction Hearing 10:30 AM EST

---------------------------------------------------------------

yo honna, yo dun has juris diction...yo dun speak to good! come bock when yo improves yo dicton!! LOLLOOLOL!!

persistancepays said...

so then, yo otta hay!!! not bahlee, but hay...here...hear...hay!!

OMO said...

Thanks, Larry.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/HistoryOfMonetaryCrimes1899.pdf

Pg. 46 of the PDF "All these and other subterfuges and excuses were invented after the deed was done. The silver dollar was dropped purely and simply to enhance the value of the gold dollar, and thus to double the debt of the American people. That was the motive and there was no other motive."


Hasn't that always been their goal, to keep the American people in debt? Even gold is off limits to almost every American.

persistancepays said...

winston 'cigarette' shout really has a good one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uyzDKUAgyo&t=3315s

listen and learn. what are you smoking? dont scream about it!!

persistancepays said...



HEATHER UPDATE:


Update: 8.24.17 9:06 PM PDT HATJ called me. She is now in TN.

HATJ will have a Jurisdiction Hearing 10:30 AM EST, Tuesday, August 29, 2017
RKB will have a hearing to represent himself Tuesday 2:30 PM EST, Tuesday, August 29, 2017

persistancepays said...

"..a hearing to represent himself"...

...yo no ho dats gong to go..... goo lunck wit dat....

persistancepays said...

i agreee with the comments below the transcripts and also add one of my own:

http://i-uv.com/hatj-minutes-of-detention-hearing-8-24-17/

i agree with the commenter who stated that she is challenging jurisdiction but has pleaded 'guilty" hasnt she just ceded jurisdiction to the court??

and 2, she 'agreed' to detention?

let them forcibly hold you, but never agree as you have, agian ceded jurisdicton to the court and allowed them to hold you voluntarily.


2 strategic mistakes imo

persistancepays said...

course if she were to ever win this case, then virtually unlimited access to $$$$ that would even make any dg settlements seem like only coffee money.

i wonder if by now, dr. flinston, capt. krik and eng. scooty are following her case??

persistancepays said...

looks like the tda 'nonsense' is hitting the msm, so now we really know that someones cage is being rattled:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/your-money/secret-federal-bank-accounts-scam.html

Just heard about this article in a video and this part especially rang out: “From the end of June to Aug. 15, nearly 107,000 payments, totaling “in excess” of $100 million, have been reversed because of the scam, said Jean Tate, a spokeswoman for the Atlanta Fed, in an email.”
That statement says so much. It says that there are accounts (which we all knew) that they were paying out amounts (which we know too) and that only 107,000 were reversed, if any of those numbers in that article are even true.
Also this is huge news that this is now being reported by The Times and oddly no mention of HATJ or Randall.

persistancepays said...

when these accts finally do kick in, all hell is going to break loose!! LOLLOL!!!

persistancepays said...

8-29-17# HATJ: Will be Released Pending Trial Audio recording


http://i-uv.com/hatj-will-be-released-pending-trial-audio-recording/

persistancepays said...

FURTHER HATJ UPDATES:



Update 8.29.17 7:16 AM PDT

I just received an email from HATJ’s attorney consultant.

Please be advised that the magistrate judge has informed me that the court will deny the motion for an outside court reporter/videographer. The judge informed me of this as a courtesy to the reporter/videographer.

Sent from my iPhone





Judge Shirley presiding-

HATJ will have a Jurisdiction Hearing 10:30 AM EST, Tuesday, August 29, 2017
RKB will have a hearing to represent himself Tuesday 2:30 PM EST, Tuesday, August 29, 2017
Howard H. Baker, Jr. United States Courthouse

Bill and Youssef will be in the courtroom.

Judy Jandora will be doing a live FB stream https://www.facebook.com/jjandora



The order of these different matters that will unfold on Tuesday:
Challenge of Jurisdiction
Arraignment
Choice of Francis or Sui Juris
Detention Hearing

persistancepays said...

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
AT KNOXVILLE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. RANDALL KEITH BEANE, et al.
Case No. 3:17-CR-82
JUDGES VARLAN / SHIRLEY

NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
The undersigned Assistant United States Attorney, Anne-Marie Svolto, hereby makes her
appearance as co-counsel in the above case on behalf of the United States of America. Notices
should be sent to Ms. Svolto as co-counsel at the following address:

Anne-Marie Svolto
Assistant United States Attorney
800 Market Street, Suite 211
Knoxville, TN 37901
(865) 546-4167
Anne-Marie.Svolto@usdoj.gov

Respectfully submitted, this the 28th day of August 2017.

NANCY STALLARD HARR
United States Attorney
By: s/ Anne-Marie Svolto
ANNE-MARIE SVOLTO
Assistant United States Attorney
800 Market Street, Suite 211
Knoxville, Tennessee 37902
(865) 545-4167

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tned.82728.28.0.pdf
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6127746/united-states-v-beane/

persistancepays said...

"...hereby makes her
appearance as co-counsel in the above case on behalf of the United States of America..."


WHO??

on behalf of me? you? who then?

am i the untied states of merica??

who?

HO??

persistancepays said...

HOSE BEHAF DO SHE REPENT FOR???

HOSE??

NOT ME?

NO YO?

HO??

OMO said...



Not to worry about anything, we're all going bye bye soon:

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/will-planet-x-appear-in-september/

persistancepays said...

possibly and planet-x collides with jupiter

chekc out here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgkxVtdHaobhy5CVeF8Rsdg

watch the set of 13 vids

read bible: revelation ch. 12

"And a sign appeared in the heavens..."

Angel Gabriel tells Prophet Daniel to "...seal up the Books until the 'time of the end'..."

is there new technology available not that reveal some new info. so then, if so, has this info been revealed to us at the "...time of the end."??

persistancepays said...

rev 12- and the dragon swallows up the child right after birth.

on sept 23, planet jupiter is birthed by "the woman" the planet leaves the constellation virgo the virgin and is collided with by planet-x causing an extinction level event by 2021

persistancepays said...

also read here:

http://bloodmoonscoming.com/?p=1705

persistancepays said...

COURT DOCKET FOR TDA ACCESS CASE HATJ/BEANE

36) Aug 29, 2017


Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge C Clifford Shirley, Jr: Motion Hearing as to Randall Keith Beane held on 8/29/2017. The parties appeared for a scheduled motion hearing to address Doc. [20] Motion for Hearing to Review Attorney/Client Relationship. After hearing from counsel, and the defendant, the Court granted the defendants oral request to proceed pro se. The defendant also requested elbow counsel. The Court advised the defendant that they would contact counsel for appointment as elbow counsel only. The Court also discussed the upcoming dates and deadlines with the defendant. The defendant advised the Court that he would like additional time to file motions. The Court set a discovery deadline for September 5, 2017. The defendant will have until September 29, 2017 to file motions. The government will file any responses by October 13, 2017. The Court set a motion hearing for October 18, 2017 at 9:30 a.m. before U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley, Jr. The Court set a new trial date of January 23, 2018 at 9:00 a.m. before Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas A. Varlan. The new plea deadline was set for December 21, 2017. The Court also set the reciprocal discovery deadline for October 18, 2017. Scheduling order to follow. (Court Reporter Rebekah Lockwood)Defendant remanded to custody. (RLK)

persistancepays said...

37) Aug 31, 2017 \


MEMORANDUM AND ORDER as to Randall Keith Beane, and Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf: Defendant Tucci-Jarrafs request to represent herself and to appoint elbow counsel is GRANTED. Attorney Francis L. Lloyd, Jr., is APPOINTED as elbow counsel for Defendant Tucci-Jarraf, pursuant to the CJA. [20] MOTION for Hearing to Review Attorney/Client Relationship filed by Randall Keith Beane and his oral request for elbow counsel is GRANTED and an Order of Appointment will follow. Assistant Federal Defender Bobby E. Hutson, Jr., and the FDS are RELIEVED of their representation of Defendant Beane. The Motion of the Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf for a Continuance and for Extensions of Deadlines Doc. [30] is GRANTED. All time between August 28, 2017, and January 23, 2018, is fully excludable time under the Speedy Trial Act. ( Plea Agreement due by 12/21/2017., Jury Trial set for 1/23/2018 09:00 AM in Courtroom 4 - Knoxville before Chief District Judge Thomas A Varlan., Pretrial Conference set for 10/18/2017 09:30 AM in Courtroom 3B - Knoxville before Magistrate Judge C Clifford Shirley Jr.) All other new deadlines are more fully set forth in this Memorandum and Order. Signed by Magistrate Judge C Clifford Shirley, Jr on August 31, 2017. (JAN, )(copy mailed to dfts Beane and Tucci-Jarraf)

persistancepays said...

see anything similar to capt. kurts case here??


" All time between August 28, 2017, and January 23, 2018, is fully excludable time under the Speedy Trial Act."

the ',,,speddy trial act'...

LOL!!


theyd be better off with ankle counsel...elbows are bad!! LOL!!


persistancepays said...

38) Aug 31, 2017

MEMORANDUM AND ORDER: Motion of Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf to Correct Minutes Doc. [29] and the Motion of the Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf for Leave to Have Present a Court Reporter and Videographer Doc. [31] are DENIED.. Signed by Magistrate Judge C Clifford Shirley, Jr on August 31, 2017. (JAN, )(copy Mailed to Tucci-Jarraf)




so the feds wanna tell lies in court, AND they dont want it recorded???


REALLY?! WTF?

yo, jug beans, what yo scarred of? what yo hidding???

this case seem another scam boondoggie....

give it up judge....

persistancepays said...

then ho can yo go back later an peel it if yo got no transcripts??

ho do dat hoppens?

the game is stacked from da git go.

persistancepays said...

MEMORANDUM AND ORDER

All pretrial motions in this case have been referred to the undersigned pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 636(b) for disposition or report and recommendation regarding disposition by the District Court as may be appropriate. This case came before the Court on August 29, 2017, for a motion hearing and status conference on the matter of the Defendant’s representation. Assistant United States Attorneys Cynthia F. Davidson and Anne-Marie Svolto appeared on behalf of the Government. Attorney Francis L. Lloyd, Jr., appeared in an advisory capacity for Defendant Tucci-Jarraf, who was also present. During the course of the hearing, the undersigned found that Defendant Tucci-Jarraf knowingly and voluntarily waived her right to counsel and chose to represent herself. The Court permitted Defendant Tucci-Jarraf to represent herself and appointed Attorney Lloyd to serve as her elbow counsel.
On the day before the August 29 hearing, Mr. Lloyd filed two motions1 on behalf of Defendant Tucci-Jarraf: Motion of Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf to Correct Minutes [Doc.
1 The Court addresses a third motion [Doc. 30] to continue the trial and all deadlines in a separate Memorandum and Order.
Case 3:17-cr-00082-TAV-CCS Document 38 Filed 08/31/17 Page 1 of 3 PageID #: 1814
2
29] and Motion of the Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf for Leave to Have Present a Court Reporter and Videographer [Doc. 31]. At the August 29 hearing, Mr. Lloyd stated that Defendant Tucci-Jarraf adopts these motions, which he filed on her behalf. Both of these motions [Docs. 29 & 31] are DENIED for the reasons stated below.
The Court finds that the Defendant’s allegations [Doc. 29] of error in the minutes of the August 24, 2017 hearing are either incorrect or insignificant. The minutes [Doc. 26] state that the Defendant did not want the Court to appoint counsel at that time and wanted to represent herself.2 Although the minutes do not state that the Defendant reserved her decision to accept appointed counsel until the status conference on August 29, the Court finds the Defendant’s reservation of the decision to accept appointed counsel is implied in the statement that she did not want to be appointed counsel at that time. Moreover, the issue is now moot, because Magistrate Judge H. Bruce Guyton allowed the Defendant to reserve her decision on the appointment of counsel until the August 29 hearing, and the Defendant then informed the Court of her decision at the August 29 hearing. Finally, the Court the minutes accurately reflect that the Defendant entered a plea of not guilty at the August 24 hearing. The Court also finds that the Defendant again entered a plea of not guilty at the August 29 hearing, making the issue moot. The Court finds that its minutes are not intended to be a transcript of a hearing and that the minutes speak for themselves.

persistancepays said...

The Defendant requests [Doc. 31] the Court to allow her to have a court reporter and a videographer of her choosing present for every hearing in this case. This request is DENIED. First, the Court will either provide a court reporter or will record all proceedings. The Defendant
2 The Court finds that the Defendant’s contention that she was appearing specially and “presenting as self” at the August 24 hearing has no legal relevance, except perhaps to indicate that the Defendant wanted to represent herself at that hearing. Case 3:17-cr-00082-TAV-CCS Document 38 Filed 08/31/17 Page 2 of 3 PageID #: 1815
3
may request that a transcript be made of any proceeding at her own expense. Second, photography or video recording of any criminal hearing by a defendant or other individual not employed by the Court is expressly prohibited by both the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure and the Local Rules of this Court. Fed. R. Crim. P. 53; E.D. Tenn. L.R. 83.1(d).
The Motion of Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf to Correct Minutes [Doc. 29] and the Motion of the Defendant Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf for Leave to Have Present a Court Reporter and Videographer [Doc. 31] are DENIED. The Clerk of Court is DIRECTED to mail a copy of this Memorandum and Order to Defendant Tucci-Jarraf.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
ENTER:

s/ C. Clifford Shirley, Jr.
United States Magistrate Judge

persistancepays said...

looks like jugs shryly = jugs allslop = same thoughts on rulings

and agian,

i still dont understand all these ppl trying to do.

once one pleads innocent, arent they exactly where they dont want to be?

you are now in court of baal, admiralty law, etc

how can they let you win??

maybe i am missing somehting here??

OMO said...

taken from some of my notes:

When one enters into debt, whom is he a servant to? He is a servant to the merchants of the earth, because their law, the Law Merchant, has full jurisdiction over debt within their system. Between brothers there's not really any debt, because we give and expect nothing in return, for "it is more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35); but when we're dealing with the natural man and we go in debt with the world, we're entering into a private law, [of codes] which is known as the lex mercatoria (Law Merchant).

OMO said...

They can't claim coram non judice because all the offences they are charged with are under the law merchant jurisdiction:


Coram non judice, Latin for "not before a judge," is a legal term typically used to indicate a legal proceeding that is outside the presence of a judge (without a judge), with improper venue, or without jurisdiction. Any indictment or sentence passed by a court which has no authority to try an accused of that offence, is clearly in violation of the law and would be coram non judice and a nullity. The exception non sui juris, "not of one's own right," is available at any time, including after judgment (Bracton).

OMO said...




Abby Martin Exposes Zionism & Israel on Joe Rogan's Podcast (Strong Language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRxt5ufnGg

persistancepays said...

Update: 9.1.17 Next court Hearing for HATJ and RKB

The Court set a motion hearing for October 18, 2017 at 9:30 a.m. before U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley, Jr.

…”The Court observed that Defendant TucciJarraf has already expressed her intention to file a dispositive motion contesting the Court’s jurisdiction. The Court set a motion hearing for this and any other pretrial motions for October 18, 2017, at 9:30 a.m., “…

There is no such thing as a jurisdiction hearing, per say, as most people go with the assumption/training… that the judicial system has authority over them.
Heather is not contesting that Eastern District of TN, does not have jurisdiction over her, because she believes its another federal court district.

Heather is contesting IN TOTAL, the courts jurisdiction. Period.
This is where the One People’s Public Trust 1776 filings will take center stage in the court room. ~ BZ

persistancepays said...

Can I have access to my TDA account now? 😋

OMO said...

"Can I have access to my TDA account now?"

Yes, where do we send the check?



6:19 "What is the Law Merchant? The Law Merchant is the court of commerce."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8JTqpTl2qo

OMO said...

Watch the video inside:

http://monetizecolb.org/index.php

persistancepays said...

sept 23 draws close.

according to video on that day the rapture will occur

also, for those left behind, the start of the triblation.

well see what happens?

newest video about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YRk9mZFdU&t=92s

persistancepays said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YRk9mZFdU&t=92s

dont forget to start at the beginning. the previous link starts at 1:23 of the vid, not the beginning

Dr. Caligari said...

when these accts finally do kick in, all hell is going to break loose!! LOLLOL!!!

If you gave everybody in the country a million dollars, a million dollars wouldn't be worth anything.

Think about it for a minute.

persistancepays said...

no problem! just give me yours and i'll have twice as much!! ;-)

Dr. Caligari said...
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persistancepays said...

hey dr. caligri, can you delete your last post. due to its length, its causing a disrupting to format of the blog and causing the print to become very small, so as to accomdate the whole link which youve posted.

thx

OMO said...

Today is September 23...


https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/apocalypse-later-author-says-october-is-true-start-of-end-times/

"On the contrary, Meade says that there will only be some kind of 'spiritual sign' on Saturday and points to October as the month in which we should worry as it will officially mark the literal 'beginning of the end.'

However, even then humanity will likely be okay for a little while as he notes that whatever happens next month should serve as the dawn of a seven year period of tribulation.

It is during that time, Meade contends, that the infamous Niburu will arrive and wreak havoc on our planet, possibly ushering in the antichrist and/or the Rapture."




But NASA says Niburu doesn't exist...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5TiJHzUHY

mogel007 said...


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persistancepays said...

sound like bruly baal in upgrading to modern era HYPEs LOLLOL!!!!

3%/per day!!!

persistancepays said...

how the 'the billion coin' is not listed in coinmarketcap.com which lists over 1100 species of cryptocurrency??

OMO said...
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OMO said...

Reposting because I mistyped some words:


The bank never gives lawful consideration to the loan because they never give up anything.


Taken from the book The Role of Money by Frederick Soddy (1934):


The following was taken from the book The Role of Money by Frederick Stoddy (1934)


Genuine and Fictitious Loans. - For a loan, if it is a genuine loan, does not make a deposit, because what the borrower gets the lender gives up, and there is no increase in the quantity of money, but only an alteration in the identity of the individual owners of it. But if the lender gives up nothing at all what the borrower receives is a new issue of money and the quantity is proportionately increased. So elaborately has the real nature of this ridiculous proceeding been surrounded with confusion by some of the cleverest and most skilful advocates the world has ever known, that it still is something of a mystery to ordinary people, who hold their heads and confess they are "unable to understand finance". It is not intended that they should. But if, instead of trying to puzzle it out along the lines of "what you get for money", these people will reverse the procedure, as in this book, and do so on the of "what you give up for it", the trick is clear enough.

OMO said...

The people give up everything... their time, their labor, their money, their energy to the banks. The banks give up nothing, and the people slave away.

persistancepays said...

i singed up for scamcoin and created a wallet and then checked it and they did not put 50k of kringlecoins or billioncoin or ?? in my account.

wht is this anther scam like bruly baals??

persistancepays said...

not only they didnt put the 50k kringle coins in the account, they are not 'free' as it were, but you must pay $1 per month to keep your back office. no back office, no getting paid.

another ponzi scam

no better, no worse than any of bruly baals hyips programs

OMO said...

Nothing is more important on this planet than the money issue... WHat is Trump doing about it? NOTHING!


Frederick Soddy:

"The monetary system is the distributory mechanism, and this reading of history therefore supports up to the hilt the conclusions of those who have made a special study of what our monetary system has become. It is the primary and infinitely most important source of all our present social and international unrest and for the failure, hitherto, of democracy."

OMO said...

Soddy is so right...

"A very slight knowledge of our actual existing monetary system makes it abundantly clear that, without democracy knowing or allowing it, and without the matter ever being before the electorate even as a secondary or minor political issue, the power of uttering money has been taken out of national hands and usurped as a perquisite by the moneylender. Practically every genuine monetary reformer is unanimous that the only hope of safety and peace lies in the nation instantly resuming its prerogative over the issue of all forms of money, which, legally, it has never surrendered at all."

OMO said...




Our utterly fraudulent monetary system...

Soddy:


"The bitter struggles of the past century will not have been in vain if thereby they have developed among the personnel and rank-and-file of labour a loyalty and sense of responsibility to themselves which they should be proud to devote to the work of the whole community. But these further advances all depend on a gradual and orderly growth, which, in the first instance, can only come about through a rising standard of living. This is being held back and frustrated by the perpetual strife and sabotage that have marked the struggles of the past, and which are primarily due to our utterly fraudulent monetary system. The same could be said of all the ameliorative social legislation of the past century, which merely tried to deal with and diminish the suffering occasioned by the money system without in one single instance intelligently striking at the cause.

But all these social and political problems lie without the proper scope of this book, the primary object of which has been to expound the legitimate role of money, to deal faithfully with the existing system as it has grown up, and to show how it is frustrating every effort towards bringing about a saner and happier state of things. Whatever further social changes experience may dictate, no unbiased inquirer into the subject of money today can long escape the conclusion that, until the system is drastically transformed and its mistakes eliminated, there can be no hope of peace, honesty, or stability again in this world."

Dr. Caligari said...

Hey, guys. Been away from the forum for a bit.

So please fill me in:

Did the world end on September 23?
Did the Common Law Grand Jury get Kurt and Scott released yet?
Has the dinar been revalued?

persistancepays said...

Ans.)

1) No, the world didnt end on Sept. 23. The beginning of the sign of "Jonas" the propeht was given, ie, 40 days to repent.

2) I dont think that Kurt/Scott has been released yet, but Heather Tucci may be able to win her case for accessing the TDA accounts.

3) No Dinar RV has occurred but it is close.

OMO said...


https://consumerist.com/2017/10/04/are-the-social-security-numbers-days-numbered/

Possible Options

For now, there isn’t a plan in place to change the SSN system, but the administration is looking into “what would be a better system” to not only identify consumers, but also protect them from hacks.

One possible option could be a “private key,” perhaps like a token or other physical item.

The token, similar to a credit card chip, would be embedded with a long cryptographic number. Once the token is presented, consumers would have to enter a PIN to enable its use, Joseph Lorenzo Hall, chief technologist at the Center for Democracy and Technology, tells Bloomberg.

While it would be an expensive and timely endeavor to change the SSN system currently in use, Joyce says it needs to happen.

persistancepays said...

Joyce????

OMO said...

From the article:

"Bloomberg reports that Rob Joyce, special assistant to the president and White House cybersecurity coordinator, floated the idea of replacing the SSN as a way of proving one’s identity."

OMO said...

http://www.slayerment.com/rule-by-ignorance

By Manly P. Hall

People are ruled by ignorance. There is no greater terrorist, no greater threat, no greater dictator, no greater evil than ignorance. Ignorance dominates the world. Ignorance can be found at the heart of essentially all of the problems we face on Earth. Greed is ignorance, fear is ignorance, declining civilizations is ignorance and broken families is ignorance. Almost all of the problems in the world are a result of ignorance.

But what exactly is ignorance and where does it come from? Can it be cured? Have we always been ignorant? Will we always be ignorant? These are all very important questions we might want to ask ourselves. It is not my intention to change people in their views about ignorance but rather to bring certain aspects to their attention and create a more vibrant understanding of certain dynamics playing out in the world.


So what do I mean by ignorance? Ignorance is defined in the dictionary as:

the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.

This is a pretty good definition. However, when I use the term ignorance I am taking it a bit further. When I say ignorance I am talking about distance from truth; distance from reality; distance from nature and universal principles. That is what ignorance really is. And that is where we currently are as a people.

We have always had small blips of ignorance throughout history, but as a whole ignorance is now sweeping the world by storm. We are in a state of ignorance. Just look at all the problems we have. Politically everyone is in disagreement. Religiously we are left in confusion. Scientifically we are egotistically naive. In the home we are broken. Financially we are bankrupt. And in everyday life we are sapped of purpose. We are physically, emotionally and mentally distraught all thanks to ignorance.

Moreover, ignorance is relative. To someone who is ignorant things may look great. To someone who is wise things may look terrible. We've all heard the saying ignorance is bliss. And this is what makes ignorance so dangerous. We may very well think that what we are doing is curing a problem when in point of fact we are actually making the problem much worse.

OMO said...

http://www.slayerment.com/rule-by-ignorance

[image]

What do you see when you look at this image? Some people may see a vase. Others will see two faces. No matter which one you see you are still both right and wrong. There are multiple ways to see things and things aren't always one-sided.

___________________


What do I see when I look at that image? I see two dark faces. I see the white vase too, but the first thing I see is the two dark faces. The dark dominates that image, and anyone who says it doesn't, is lying.

OMO said...

Even if you reversed the two images making the faces white and the vase black, the black vase would still dominate the image, due to the white background.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w8siVQ-gAo

Jeff Olsen: 45:25 "This earth, this life here is a very low form--it's a very dense and low vibration. I think we are on the lowest vibration of the universe.... We'll experience the wars and the hate and all that goes on here."

OMO said...

Income taxes are nothing more than usury, i.e., a tax on using their money.



A Fraudulent Standard, by Arthur Kitson (1917)

https://ia801407.us.archive.org/24/items/fraudulentstanda00kitsuoft/fraudulentstanda00kitsuoft.pdf


CHAPTER XIV

SUMMARY

"And how persistent this desire has been may be seen in every branch of the science. Take, for example, the numerous theories regarding interest (better named usury, i.e., payment for use), upon which innumerable treatises have been written,
and to which reference has already been made in a former chapter."

persistancepays said...

Interesting to read the UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA© to Heather Tuccis filings on TDA accounts:

http://i-uv.com/united-states-of-americas-response-to-defendants-motion-to-dismiss/

Come on Heather!! Knock em' out!!

When I get all my TDA account $$$ then I can use the DG settlements for just coffee money!!

;-)

persistancepays said...

Opps!


It was supposed to be posted @ now!!

persistancepays said...

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION TO DISMISS


The United States of America, by and through Nancy Stallard Harr, United States

Attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee, hereby responds

in opposition to the defendants’ Motion to Dismiss (Doc. 43) filed by the defendant,

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf, on October 2, 2017, and joined by co-defendant

Randall Beane (Doc. 44). Defendants argue that the Indictment should be dismissed

because this Court lacks jurisdiction. For the reasons set forth

below, the United States submitsthe defendants’ motion is frivolous and should be

denied.



no frivolity there!!!

persistancepays said...

hey nanny, btw whaver hoppen to jerzy kane in tensee???? huh??? speed up, i canned hear yo?

persistancepays said...

http://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Response-to-De-Motion-to-Dismiss-10-12-17.pdf

persistancepays said...

ARGUMENT



Defendants appear to argue t
hat the Cour
t lacks both
in personam
and subject matter
jurisdiction on grounds related t
o dozens of pages of UCC filin
gs that have no apparent relation
or relevance to the case at bar
. Defendants claim that the Uni
ted States is a corporation pursuant
to 28 U.S.C. §3002(15), and in 2012, s
omehow, the United States
, as a corporation, was
“foreclosed and terminated . . . for due cause.” (Doc. 43, Mot
ion to Dismiss, pg. 4.)
Accordingly, the United States
and the Court and its agents “do
not legally exist
, have authority
to act, or jurisdicti
on” over the action or
over the defendants
. (
Id
.) The defendants’ arguments,
however, have no legal merit

persistancepays said...

Defendants claim that the Uni
ted States is a corporation pursuant
to 28 U.S.C. §3002(15), and in 2012, s
omehow, the United States
, as a corporation, was
“foreclosed and terminated . . . for due cause.”



da usa is closeD!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLOLOOOLOLOLOOLOOLOLL!!!!!

IT SAY IT WRITE HEAR ON MY UCCC DORKUMINTS!!!

persistancepays said...

NOW CAN I HAFT MY $$$$ !!!!

persistancepays said...

Accordingly, the United States
and the Court and its agents “do
not legally exist
, have authority
to act, or jurisdicti
on” over the action or
over the defendants
. (
Id
.) The defendants’ arguments,
however, have no legal meri

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