Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Your Christ is my Devil (10-18-11)

I heard a quote from Wesley “Your Christ is my Devil”. I could relate to his sentiment The Christ of the gospel message is completely misunderstood by the corrupt human heart. When a true Christian has a relationship with God through Christ he is easily criticized for his obedience which is foreign to all they know as righteous. It is why so many clamored to have Christ crucified. He knew that His true professions of the Godhead would be reflected by those who garner their righteousness from the devil.

What is so despicable about the judicial system Scott and I faced and still fight is that it borrows the righteous credibility of God’s righteousness buy follows the tenets of the devil. Christians foolishly allow themselves to be duped by the profession of righteousness and presume in their ignorance that God’s will is being performed. I tell you the fact by the knowledge of Christ, The true Christ, that our judicial system is akin to witchcraft and none who practice its art can know the Lord. If they profess a relationship with Christ their Christ is the devil of the true gospel.

I have had friends and I will use that term loosely who have studied the word of God with me. Yet when the institutions of law merely make the cursory claims of God’s authority they ignore the witness they have of me and condemn me as unjust. This is the work of the devil and true Christian love cannot practice it. So when you make the profession of Christ I am not easily moved and I will judge you by whose report you believe before I call you brother.

As for the judicial system it has made an enemy with Christ in me. I have no fear of the quantity or the size of the giants God throws at my rock. They will be defeated as Goliath because the true Christ of the gospel is more than a conjurer and is not deceived by the devil’s false righteousness.

As to the battles I face I do not grow weary and have always seen the victory inherent in Christ. So if you cannot understand my determination against or contempt for all things labeled lawful fear not it is easily understood: Christ is my devil.

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persistancepays said...

interesting video by karne hudes on the global currncy reset:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCwUpMOkrwA&feature=youtu.be


true or not, it seems to make sense.

persistancepays said...

just look at all the gold certificates in the above video. some filipino guy was entrusted with them. then the usa decided to take marcos out and fabricated trumped up charges agaisnt him. he was going to use all the gold for humanitarian purposes and the botoom line is that the usa govt. stole it from him. years later.... 9/11 result maybe????

persistancepays said...


In the good old USA its all about locking up the bonded debt slaves.My position on going to court has always been: never voluntarily go to court. Live men and women are not meant to be in any place designed solely for the business of fictional entities. When we attend court, we are deemed dead, in fact, they cannot deal with us until we admit to being dead….a legal fiction….a trust. Court is for titled persons: judge, prosecutor, defendant, bailiffs, cops, and attorneys. Live men and women are not recognized, so it makes sense to send in a dead person––an attorney––to handle our cases …. except for one thing: they do not know how the system works, due to their indoctrination. If you can find one to do as you say, then you will prevail, but most of them would rather hang onto their BAR cards than behave honourably. The only thing that dead, fictional entities want from us is our life energy, and the only way they can get it is by our agreement. Without us, they cannot function, so, they are desperate to get us into court, to have us pay the debt which they created by charging the trust.
Since common law courts no longer exist, we know that the case never has anything to do with “facts” or live men and women and so, anyone who testifies (talks about the facts of the case) is doomed. ALL courts operate in trust law, based upon ecclesiastical canon law–– ritualism, superstition, satanism, etc.––which manifests as insidious, commercial law and we are in court to take the hit, if they can get us to do so. They use every trick in the book––intimidation, fear, threat, ridicule, rage, and even recesses, in order to change the jurisdiction, when they know they are losing, in order to make us admit that we are the name of the trust. When we do so, we are deemed to be the trustee––the one liable for administering the trust. Ergo, until now, it has been a waste of our time, energy, and emotion to go to a place where it is almost certain that we will be stuck with the liability.
We all know from our indoctrination, programming, and schooling that judges are impartial and have sworn an oath to this effect. This means he must not favour either plaintiff or defendant. But, our experience reveals that he does, indeed, favour the plaintiff, indicating a glaring conflict of interest––that the prosecutor, judge, and clerk all work for the state––the owner of the CQV trust. So, as the case is NOT about “justice”, it must be about the administration of a trust. They all represent the trust owned by the state and, if we are beneficiary, the only two positions left are Trustee and Executor. So, if you detect the judge’s partiality, although I doubt the case will get this far, you might just want to let them know that you know this.

cot'd

persistancepays said...

cot'd

If you consider court as entertainment and if you can stand the evil emanating from its officers, the fear and angst oozing from the walls, and the treacherous atmosphere, then go, knowing that under trust law we cannot be the trustee or the executor of a trust, whilst being beneficiary, as that would be a conflict. The position of beneficiary may lack clout, but the other positions hold liability. Since state employees want to be the beneficiaries of the trust, the only way they can do so is to transfer, to us, the liability which they hold, as trustees and executors, because they also cannot be both the administrators and beneficiary of the trust. So, trusteeship and executorship, i.e.: suretyship, becomes a hot potato and everyone wants to toss it so s/he can be beneficiary of the credit from the trust.
When we were born, a trust, called a Cestui Que Vie Trust (“CQV”) was set-up, for our benefit. Evidence of this is the birth certificate. But what is the value which must be conveyed to the trust, in order to create it? It was our right to property (via Birth into this world), our body (via the Live Birth Record), and our souls (via Baptism). Since the state/province which registered the trust is the owner, it is also the trustee…. the one that administers the trust. Since they, also, wanted to be beneficiary of this trust, they had to come up with ways to get us, as beneficiary, to authorize their charging the trust, allegedly, for our benefit (via our signature on a document: citation, application, etc.), and then, temporarily transfer trusteeship, to us, during the brief time that they want to be the beneficiary of a particular “constructive” trust.
This means that a trust can be established anywhere, anytime, and the parties of the trust are quickly, albeit temporarily, put into place. But, since a beneficiary cannot charge a trust––only a trustee can do so––it is the state that charges the trust, but they do so for their benefit, not ours (albeit occasionally we do reap some benefit from that charge but nowhere near the value which they reap. Think bank loan….. we reap a minute percentage of what they gain from our authorization). So, the only way, under trust law, for them to be able to charge the trust is to get the authorization from the beneficiary––us, and the only way for them to benefit from their charge is to get us to switch roles––from beneficiary to trustee (the one responsible for the accounting), and for them to switch their role––from trustee to beneficiary because no party can be both, at the same time, i.e.: within the same constructive trust. They must somehow trick us into accepting the role of trustee. Why would we do so when the trust is for our benefit? …. and how do they manage to do this?

persistancepays said...

CQV Cestui Que Vie Trust -- Appointing the Judge Trustee in New Hampshire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ0Y_jjlCTQ


this is funny!!!

persistancepays said...

Liens Filed Against the Federal Reserve: The Key to Trump Ending the Fed & Returning the Gold Standard?




http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2017/05/liens-filed-federal-reserve-key-trump-ending-fed-returning-gold-standard.html#more

persistancepays said...

cut off all da fat. jus yoze da lean$.

persistancepays said...

This is a picture of the Nazi gold mine in Merkers-Kieselbach,

(http://cdn.themindunleashed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/wikileaks.jpg)

Germany, where stolen Nazi gold and other treasures were kept. Thus, it is possible that Wikileaks is sending a strong message to those within the BIS and other top-level financiers. Naturally one must ask, does Wikileaks have something to reveal about these stolen assets? We will see.

Coming back to Trump, it would be beneficial for him to not only begin pressing hard for a true audit of the Federal Reserve, but to also work with the East in recovering these vast amounts of assets to back currencies, thus transforming the global financial system.

persistancepays said...

As the reader will notice in the UBS and BIS cease and desist document, which also provides the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement document, President Soekarno’s son signed over the rights to the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement to Neil Keenan. To this day, Neil Keenan is working with multiple Asian countries to bring this massive fraud back into the open, though he has obviously faced much opposition from the implicated parties. Additionally, Keenan filed a lawsuit in late 2011 in the Southern District of New York against the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, Silvio Berlusconi, Ban Ki-Moon, the Italian Republic and several others in a separate case that also relates to the theft and abuse of the global collateral accounts.

persistancepays said...

For those that want proof of this lawsuit, here is a screenshot of the filed case. This comes from pacer.gov, which is used to look up filed cases. Take a look at the plaintiff and defendants.

The lawsuit was withdrawn by Keenan shortly after because the judge overseeing the case was dismissed and replaced with a brother of one of Barack Obama’s economic advisors. Thus, the case was about to be silenced by the banking elite. However, because Keenan withdrew the case and has since gathered much more evidence in the time being, this case will once again be brought forth.

Related Neil Keenan | The Challenge To Uncover Your Corporate Identity: Collateral Accounts, Straw man Trust, Sovereignty, Federal Reserve Notes, Bankruptcy, Gold and more

In other words, if Trump wishes to really audit and end the Federal Reserve, as well as bring back the gold standard, he must look at the long history that has taken place with respect to the global collateral accounts, and also the recent history of the liens filed against the major banking institutions around the world. Imagine the movement he could create if he began openly discussing the fact that liens have been filed against these banks as well as a cease and desist order, because of the fraud involved in illegally using the global collateral accounts.

persistancepays said...

lololol!!!

Additionally, Keenan filed a lawsuit in late 2011 in the Southern District of New York against the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, Silvio Berlusconi, Ban Ki-Moon, the Italian Republic and several others in a separate case that also relates to the theft and abuse of the global collateral accounts.


yo relly tink dat all dose peepls abuft named are gong to let yo cleckt on deese leans??? maybe yo tooo skinny.

just axe dat good lockin 'han$um' guy if he eva cleck on his lean$ he still too skinny.

they just as soon kill yo frist beefo they let yo clect da fat from da lean$.

persistancepays said...

whaver hoppens to dat han$um guy, he filled fat leans fo billon$ of doola$. is he still alife???

persistancepays said...

his real name was hansen i think?

mogel007 said...

Scott got in the mail yesterday his Petition for Cert. If that petition is granted it will release both Kurt & Scott from prison. He's been denied 4 times, but he's fix those issues now. Come May 27, 2017 it will be exactly 12 years of incarceration for Scott. So this is some good news on his recent filing in the court that will soon be heard. His Petition is one of innocence and alleging no crimes were committed and so the petite jury verdict is moot that sent him and Scott away.

mogel007 said...

It's been 6 years since Keenan released his claim. Why hasn't he filed something again? Makes no sense to wait so long.

mogel007 said...

Hansen claimed that he was kidnapped. I had Hansen email me once. I still have his email. Course was it the real Hansen or the pretend Hansen? I don't know. Is he still alive? I would guess he probably is.

mogel007 said...

One of Alvin Joseph Hansen's last posts in 2007:

http://pennibancposttest.blogspot.com/

He predicted the release of Kurt & Scott 10 years ago. Interesting allegations in this post. You need to read it several times to get what he is saying. Deborah Welsch, Kurt's estranged "common law wife" mentioned to me that she met Alvin J. Hansen once and thought he was kind of peculiar and eccentric. Alvin alleges a 2.7 trillion dollar lien + 12% interest accruing from over 10 years ago against the banker establishment.

mogel007 said...

Kurt Johnson is the trustee of the Pennibanc Trust, by the way, so obviously Mr. Hansen has alot of trust and respect for Kurt.

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mogel007 said...

https://btc-e.com/

You know you could have made a 250% return had you have bought Litcoin several months ago when it was at $6.00. It's now at $30.00 and rising.
Course Bitcoin is at $1760 per coin much more expensive than an ounce of gold. The media is taking notice again. Could have made a 125% return on your money in the last year on Bitcoin.

persistancepays said...

yes, litecon is gong to go up just like btc and other crypto's. but litecoin is much cheaper right now, yes.

re: hansen. was it/is it realistic taht they are going to pay anyone $2.7 trillion?

would the ptb not try to kill that person first?//

persistancepays said...

the first crypto currency concept that really worked was ebullion. the bruly balls fav.

it had the crytpo card decipher adn the govt. had it shut down and stole the money.

they had the guy set up with the wife and her lover so that he felt that he had to kill her it would seem. then they immediately shut down ebullion.

i had 30k in ebullion in there and filed with a lawyer, then when i never heard anything after a couple years, i filed a cliam online. then after a couple years more of not hearing anything, afther i found out online, that a judgment was rendered, i called the lawyers and they told me that the claim was paid and i was disqualified becase i filed 2 claims, one with them and one with the govt/rec'vr. what should that have anythign to do with it!!! those batards!!! waht a sham!

the layers must of kept my money and i have no way to prove it. these were specialty online/hyips lawyer in state of PA. scott hare it was. he was recommended by berry ball

persistancepays said...

effin ebullion was really a good concept that really worked well. they shold have somethign as good today with the cryptocard and all. waht a shame. but the ptb could never have allowed such a thing to exist for long unchallegned. eventually paper money wuld have become obsolete.

persistancepays said...

Richard stack
1.0 star out of 5

Posted by Richard Stack
May 5, 2013

Mr Hare took a retention payment from me and remained completely unreachable for weeks at a time. He wanted to drive the case in his own direction and completely missed the scope of the actual claim. After 9 months of time I accomplished nothing at all.

Worse that that I have requested my paperwork be returned to me and he simply ignored these requests as he does my phone calls. I can not even retrieve my personal property back from him.

I have been forced to hire an attorney to deal with this attorney.

This is the worst attorney I have ever encountered!

https://www.avvo.com/attorneys/pa-scott-hare-742266.html

mogel007 said...

I hired Scott Hare, the attorney as he initiated a claim, and I got paid from the e-bullion fiasco. It wasn't the full amount, but a percentage of what I lost. Bitcoin is not going away or being shut down by the government. If the government wanted to shut it down, they would have done so by now.

mogel007 said...

Your claim was probably denied because they thought you were attempting to get paid twice. Looks like some malfeasance on the part of the attorney you hired. You might check into that claim of malfeasance. Your attorney should have caught that you filed two claims. 30K is alot of money.

persistancepays said...

i was not attempting to get paid twice. and even IF they thought that, all they had to do was deny the second claim. its all on record so youd have to be pretty stupid to try to collect twice. what was i supposed to do after not hearing from him in over 2 years!!!

THATS WHY LAWYERS ARE THIEVES!!!!!!!!!!!!

and as far as malfeasance goes, like everything else in the court of baal, how do i prove this, and how do i get an atty in pa to handle it and its probably over that statute of lims by now.

but i do believe in what comes around.....O

mogel007 said...

You can still file a complaint with the Bar Association. That will give you some leverage to get the lawyer to the bargaining table. Attorneys are bonded, are they not? Can you go after that bond regardless of the SOL? It's not like you are suing him in court where the SOL applies. And you have enough documentation probably to file a good faith complaint.

mogel007 said...

If I lost 30K, I just wouldn't walk away, and hope for Karma to kick in at some point.

persistancepays said...

glad to hear that kurt/scott will be getting out.

as i know that youve been involved with them since day one, if you may say, will they be contacting dg clients or will they be going back to a info type deal like dr. fred used to send in weekly emails? if they are out, i would assume that the heavy lifting is done and it only a matter of tying up loose ends regarding settlements.

persistancepays said...

and speaking of ebullion, what a very weird coincidence that i only just opened an unsolicited email from anthem gold which after reaeding it, would appear to revisit the ebullion issue, ie, a gold backed crypto currency per gram. so strange that its unreal!

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persistancepays said...

here is the email:

Dear XXXX XXXXXXX :

We are proud to announce that you can now support the launch of the world’s first Ethereum-based, gold-backed cryptocurrency.

This is a cryptocurrency backed by gold, in the form of London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) certified bars, physically stored in a secure and fully insured vaulting facility in Texas. Every individual ANTHEM (AGLD), the digital coin we are launching, is backed by 1 gram of gold, making this cryptocurrency one of the most secure in the world. Digital and physical security at its finest.

Created in December 2016, AnthemGold is an innovative new portfolio product from The team behind Anthem Vault, Amagi Metals, and Gold Money. AnthemGold is led by Anthem Blanchard, CEO of Amagi Metals and Anthem Vault (previously with Goldmoney) and David Miller, a security and blockchain expert. In partnership with Amagi Metals, where you can redeem and trade ANTHEMS (AGLD) once the digital gold coins are launched.

Only available to accredited investors and cryptocurrency enthusiasts through BnkToTheFuture, where over 37,000 investors have already invested $160 million into shaping the future of the financial sector and cryptocurrency. Known for its transparency and dividend policy; over 680,000 dividends have been paid out so far.

Here is your chance to shape the future of cryptocurrency :
I want to Invest

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact myself or Cynthia at the email addresses below.

Best Regards,

Anthem Blanchard, CEO, and Cynthia Blanchard, President of AnthemGold, Inc.

anthem@anthemgold.com

cynthia@anthemgold.com

persistancepays said...

???? wasnt goldmoney shut down just like ebullion and egold??

persistancepays said...

re ebullion remission, true i can probably go the the Pa bar assoc and file a cliam of malfeasance, but the issue is; would i collect anything? and if i did, how long would it take ot prove it and such? could/would the atty appeal it?

would it happen faster than just waiting for dg settlements and/or the rv of dinar to happen?

prolly not.

persistancepays said...

ea$y come.......ea$y go......refi a house....put house into dg program....easy come $$$....secure $$$ in ebullion acct and wait for appreciation of gold to withdraw based on gram wght...........ebullion acct. locked by the 'g'.....dg settlements delayed by over a decade.....ea$y go..... acct bal. -0-

persistancepays said...

ineresting but a looooong read....


http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2017/05/uniform-commercial-code.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StopThePirates+%28Stop+The+Pirates%29

OMO said...

As the saying goes, money is the root of all evil.

persistancepays said...

'As the saying goes, money is the root of all evil.'


CORRCTION: "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil."

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OMO said...

Most people pay a lot of attention to it, which means they LOVE it.

OMO said...

or, the attention that we GIVE to it.

OMO said...

"DOLLAR" MEANS "WEIGHT". Or, at least it used to be. Title 31 now defines a legal tender dollar as worthless words and numbers like dimes and 100 cents.


http://www.youshouldbuygold.com/2011/07/weights-measures-and-balancing-scales/

“Dollar“ is the name for monetary units used in various countries all over the world. The definition of the word dollar is “weight.” The term dollar is from the Greek word taler, referring to the weight of gold or silver. The dollar came to America from Bohemia. The Bohemian coin called the thaler contained 451 grains of pure silver.

From 1792 until 1933 -almost 150 years- $1 was 1/20th of an ounce of gold. Anyone could have had this old $20 Gold Piece for a $20 paper bill. The dollar was fixed to gold in a relationship of 20 to 1.



persistancepays said...

until the advent of fedral reverse nots

OMO said...

Yes, the PRIVATE federal reserve banking system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaE_sjQigcg

OMO said...

Human consciousness cannot be stopped!


“Humanity’s challenge at this decisive point in history is to face a monster that is desperately attempting to expand it’s tyrannical system of human enslavement. Simultaneously, human consciousness is growing with unparalleled expansion and this is a grave threat to the tyrants. Only one of these forces, humanity or tyranny, can succeed and the world we handover to our children and future generations will be defined by our success or failure in this regard. The irony is that the tyrants have no power but that which we have unwittingly relinquished to them… in order to create a better world we simply need to take our power back. That is my ultimate goal; a better world. My wisdom in this matter comes from the knowledge that the attainment of this goal is not up to me, it is up to us.” Ken O'Keefe, Nov. 2015


“I do not believe technological development can in any way prevent spiritual development. I have the utmost respect for science, and for its product, which we call technology; but of course, one should not... Well, we cannot directly deal with that issue. I'd have to go into metaphysics and it would be really boring.” Stephen Jourdain

OMO said...

No money since 1913...


"Part of the fraud the banks instigate is to call their extensions of credit "money." We use their extensions of credit as "money." Money should actually exist." Larry Becraft

OMO said...

No money since 1913. Only extensions of credit. Borrow from Peter to pay Paul.

persistancepays said...

Rob from pastor to play Paul

persistancepays said...

Rob from Peter to play Paul

OMO said...

http://vftonline.org/VFTINC/frn/unabomb2.htm


Taking a Hard Look at the Modern Economy

Those who justify borrowing make two mistakes (besides misreading the verses quoted above). First, they fail to consider all the Scriptural reasons to avoid debt. Some of these reasons are set forth in Bill Gothard's Men's Manual, Vol. II, beginning at page 74. Second, they fail to consider how monstrously evil the modern economy is. Borrowing puts one right in the heart of the beast. And in our modern "inflationary economy," not only is borrowing unwise, it actually is the cause of inflation, and therefore violates clear scriptural injunctions.

"'Monstrously evil'? Come on" some will say. "Borrowing causes inflation?!" These charges are as strong as they are unfamiliar to most Americans. Let me start by showing you that our nation's clock just isn't telling the right time.

Take a quarter or a dime out of your pocket. Examine it. Notice that the edge is orange. Inside, the coin is copper. It has been plated with nickel to give it the appearance of silver.

Why would the government paint a copper coin to make it look like silver? Dimes, quarters, and half-dollars were in fact made of silver up until 1965, but in order to fund activities which the Scriptures nowhere command the State to undertake,4 the State began to substitute inexpensive copper for the more expensive silver. Show a quarter or dime to your pastor or financial advisor. Point out the orange center. Ask him what kind of money this is. If you don't eventually hear the phrase "debased currency," your advisor is not equipped to give you sound, Biblical economic advice. The post-1965 coin is a classic example of "debased currency," which every economist can describe. History records this kind of debasement as occurring in every empire in human history - right before its collapse. The practice has always been recognized as immoral. It is a form of theft. It is plainly prohibited by Biblical Law.

Few people are aware of the significance of this subtle change in coinage. These coins are but the tip of the iceberg. Most of our economy is not run on coins, but follows the same techniques of "debasement." The implications are staggering.

Every time I talk to people about the tangled subject of usury, debt, and our nation's currency, I find it uncovers a whole army of other problems, such as covetousness, inability to defer gratification, and brainwashing at the hands of the State's schools (Romans 12:1-2). And a false system of money not only permits the widespread charging of interest, it "violently" oppresses the poor, according to the Scriptures.

OMO said...



Don't borrow- don't go into debt- owe no man. Don't be a slave to the banks. No mortgages.

mogel007 said...

People on this blog might be interested in this story. On June 2, 2017 Homeowner retakes property in peace without any problems 31 days after the Sheriff office throws them out.

Here's the latest on the story of my friends efforts to get back their home after the Sheriff office in Reno, Nevada illegally evicted the tenants for the benefit of the bank and the bank was getting ready to sell the home. Basically the owners retook the home on June 2, 2017 after being thrown out 31 days ago, however based upon all of the owners paperwork, the common law grand jury's decision in their favor, (I was fortunate to be one of the jurrors in this historic case), and putting the Sheriff's office into default by the Sheriff not answering all of the written charges against them, with damages of $40,000 plus, the Sheriff did not fight the owners in retaking their property, so damages assessed against the Sheriff office were waived, but financial damages were still assessed to the Court and the attorney's involved trying to steal their home, theft by deception.
Apparently the Sheriff's office got a writ of restitution to evict the owners, but stupidly never served the owners in person. One mistake of many by the Sheriff Dept. A rare example of a victory by one of the People.

So the bottom line is, common law grand juries do work and do have power and government will back down if things are handled properly. Patricia Anthony who spear-headed this is a member of the National Liberty Alliance.


mogel007 said...

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Friday morning, June 2, 2017 we did personally visit criminal division Deputy Eric Smith regarding trespasses upon us, our rights, and our house, land and personal property with 5/3/17 lockout where Doerflingers were not given either alleged 4/7/17 ORDER… or associated TEMPORARY WRIT OF RESTITUTION upon lockout, nor was there a required Notice of …. Writ attached by court clerk nor received via mail, as mandated by N.R.S. for your agents; upon hearing about willful bias supported with 4 witness affidavits, Writ of Error, denials of trial by jury, etc. Deputy Smith suggested we contact Nevada Attorney General, but would not accept service for Sheriff Chuck Allen of Certificates of Dishonor and Writ of Restitution Notices, although he did give us # to call to make appointment to talk to Sheriff, since Chuck was not there at that time. We did then serve Sheriff via civil division Chief Records clerk Ron Souza. Realtor Karen Greathouse was called 11:24 and 11:27am by Linda Doerflinger to arrange peaceful access to house to access personal property belongings with appointment set for 12:30 pm so Karen and or agents could remove board(s) and unlock house, garage for same. We had arranged for team of helpers and Karen and or agents never showed up and she refused to take subsequent call @ 1:58pm. Upon further counsel, Doerflingers then chose to lawfully re-take possession of their house and land and did so, removing the boards, posting lawfull NO Trespass notices and changing locks. Daily trespass true bill charges have ended as of June 1st, 2017 to numerous parties based on Linda and Kenneth’s peaceful lawful possession as of June 2nd, 2017 A.D.

Once inside house, Kevin Higgins’ 4/7/2017 ORDER and WRIT taped on inside of window could be accessed for our lawful response thereto: Exempt from Levy - These 2 presentments found taped on inside window 6/2/2017 when we took lawful possession of our house and land are timely returned honorably as grievous trespasses to Sheriff – agents Failed to serve at 5/3/17 lockout; Conditionally accepted for value upon proof of claim that “JUSTICE” and “attorney(s)” display: 1) Article VI clause 2 oath of office 2) bond and 3) paperwork sworn to by an injured party or firsthand witness; Certificates of Dishonor have issued against court officers. Govern yourselves accordingly, All rights reserved! by living man Kenneth and living woman Linda 6/5/2017 with additional red hand-inscribed notices.

Registered Mail # RB 406 117 480 US- ORDER … 4/7/2017 ; Registered Mail # RB 406 117 493 US - TEMPORARY WRIT OF RESTITUTION 4/7/2017, both also noticed “Defective on its face” naming “dead corporate fictions not … people”
Registered Mail # RB 406 117 502 US - NOTICE OF RIGHT TO RECLAIM ABANDONED PERSONAL PROPERTY – dated 5/3/2017: red hand-inscribed: Discovered taped 6/2/17 to board over front door Timely honorably refused for cause Again June 5, 2017- see attached, from May 9, 2017. All rights reserved, No Contract!!!... by … Kenneth… linda original will be returned via postage stamped U.S. Mail to Aldridge Pite - San Diego, Cal.

mogel007 said...

Again noticed: Attached are draft copies of two 5/31/17 verified Certificates of Dishonor rendering “JUSTICE OF THE PEACE” Kevin Higgins 4/7/17 TEMPORARY WRIT OF RESTITUTION used to unlawfully and illegally remove Doerflingers from their land and house with 8 Sheriff deputy’s assistance on 5/3/2017 null and void nunc pro tunc. You are hereby also noticed of “warrants ruling Writ of Restitution for 5094 Sagebrush Drive, Sun Valley, Nevada in favor of Claimants Linda and Kenneth…: Doerflinger, living woman and man, also on behalf of all Nevadans supporting peer jurors as judges of facts and law decisions agreed and witnessed to.”

Blessings to you as you remain true to your oaths to the law of the land and its true beneficiaries of the constitutions, the living people. Reserving all rights and most sincerely, Kenneth, Linda and Patricia J, also for all Nevadans this fifth day of June, 2017 9:45 pm

mogel007 said...

That's interesting you talk about Ethereum. I've heard that this cryptocurrency could surpass Bitcoin by the end of 2018 in volume and become the industry leader. As you know Bitcoin has made extraordinary returns lately and is more valuable than an ounce of gold, worth about $2600 today per coin. So if someone wanted to put $5,000 into Ethereum today, it's value is quite low right now, it is not at all unlikely they could become a millionare or a multimillionaire down the road in the not so distant future.

OMO said...

Ever wonder if you really came out of this planet or not? I have.

From Alex Collier:

39:20: "Everybody on the earth is from someplace else. None of us were born or hatched here. None of our souls were created here. We all come from another time and place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQZgAEA95s8&t=3695s


At 1:01:05 he recommends this book:

The God's of Eden, by William Bramley

https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Eden-William-Bramley/dp/0380718073/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8



Sure, a "must read" book. For those who want to know the true story about mankind, about who control us, about how to get free from manipulators. A book that tells the truth sure at at least 90%.


Well. The book is great. Loved it. Well written. Great detail in banking and religion on the Custodials or UFOlogy. Just what i enjoy burying my head in. If this is also your subject of interest then you will get what the author is saying too. Happy reading

mogel007 said...

In the attachment are the jury instructions.

"Prejudicial instructions like, page 1: "you must follow the law in my instructions whether you agree with the law or not."

Page 1: "You must not read into these instructions or into anything the Court may have said or done"

Page 6:
"You have heard evidence that the FBI raised the offices of the Dorean Group and that defendants were arrested. This information may not be used by you to infer that actions were committed." Judge should have said, the search warrants were illegal and the FBI didn't have a search warrant signed by a Judge if he wanted to be fair and fully disclose. He should have said, Just because the search was illegal doesn't necessarily mean that the defendants were guilty of something. LOL

Page 6: "Nothing that I have said or done, I reiterate, should influence your verdict. That is a matter entirely up to you."
The jury can't use the fact that the Judge perverted the law to influence the Jury as a reason to vote not guilty?


Page 7: "You have heard that certain counts involving bank fraud have been dismissed by the government. This has nothing to do with whether the counts that are on trial have or have not been proven."

"That the bank fraud counts have been dismissed voluntarily does not mean that the banks were not defrauded--nor does it mean that they were. It is simply irrelevant to your decision."

Page 7: Untrue statement: "You have heard testimony from Farrel LeCompte and Jennifer Holtzer witnesses who were alleged to have been involved in the crime charged and who pleaded guilty or no contest to a crime....."
Jennifer Holtzer was never charged with any crime in the indictments.

Then you have all of these conditioning and uncalled for and irrelevant statements that have nothing to do with the indictments that sway the Jury like:

Page 7: "You have heard about prior convictions of Mr. Johnson. You may consider this only for purposes of evaluating his credibility as a witness and not as proof of guilt in this case. You have heard that both defendants have been arrested in connection with another matter in Utah. You may not consider those arrests as proof of any guilt in this case."


Untrue statements under the law espoused by the Judge concerning rescission and loans:

mogel007 said...

Page 9: "Under now circumstances can the borrower simply eliminate the loan, recover the collateral, and keep the money from the loan."
The Jesiloski decision in Jan. 2015 says otherwise on the topic of "rescission of a loan". All that is required is the letter sent to the bank to cancel the loan, borrower doesn't have to file a suit or even return the property or any money until the lender does their obligations first. The rescission becomes effective by operation of law the day the rescission letter is sent. Lender must first return all monies paid on the loan to the borrower, otherwise, the borrower can keep the property "without further obligation." See: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/13-684
and the TILA law.

Page 9: "Within regulatory reserve requirements, banks are allowed to receive deposits from customers and then to use those deposits to make loans to borrowers, banks are also allowed to borrow money from the Federal Reserve Bank and then to use those funds to make loans to borrowers; and banks are free to use their own equity to make loans to borrowers."

Page 9: "Of course, a borrower or his agent or his trustee may send a letter to a lender complaining about aspects of a loan. The lender, however, is not legally obligated to respond to such a letter, at least with respect to any circumstances relevant to this case. Rather the lender is free to ignore the letters and to stand on its rights under the loan documents."

Page 10: "Ignoring such a letter or notice cannot have the effect of lawfully appointing anyone as the lender's agent or attorney-in-fact. In turn, any reconveyance signed by any such purported attorney-in-fact or purported agent would be unathorized and invalid."

This was the strongest defense of the Dorean Process which the prosecution called a scam, because in the worst case scenario if the Dorean Group was incorrect in discharging the liens for all clients upon the default of the banks to answer & prove a real loan was given, at least there was an insurance policy given to the banks which was a subrogation bond to make them whole twice over, where they couldn't claim a loss. And that was the issuance of a subrogation bond in the amount of twice the original loan amount at closing given to the banks, as long as they would be honest about the lending process, they could cash these bonds which were real, but no banks would do that & come clean and honest answer point for point the affidavit of Scott which was required to address or sign an affidavit already prepared for them which is how banks say lending works. No bank would sign or address that either, but rather chose to ignore their lending fraud.

mogel007 said...

Page 10: "You have also heard reference to a subrogation and security bond. Under the law, no borrower has the unilateral right to substitute someone else's promise to pay for his or her own promise to pay. Nor can a borrower unilaterally substitute a bond for his original collateral under the loan." To prove that Judge Alsup is lying through his teeth,
Here's what it says in the Law Dictionary, by Steven H. Gifis on the topic of subrogation:
page 203: "The substitution of another person in the place of the creditor to whose rights he [the other person[ succeeds in relation to the debt; one's payment or assumption of an obligation for which another is primarily liable." McClintock, Equity 123 (2d ed. 1948).
"This doctrine is not dependent upon contract, nor upon privity between the parties; it is the creature of equity, and is founded upon principles of natural justice. Subrogation has been generally classified as being either legal or conventional. Legal subrogation arises by operation of law where one having a liability, or right, or a fiduciary relation in the premises, pays a debt due by another under such circumstances that he is in equity entitled to the security or obligation held by creditor whom he has paid. Conventional subrogation, on the other hand, arises where by express or implied agreement with the debtor, a person advancing money to discharge a prior lien might be substituted to thesecurity of the prior lienee." 18 S.E. 2d 917, 920.
Subrogation typically arises when an insurance company pays its insured under a collision protection feature of an insurance policy; in that event the company is subrogated to the cuase of aciton if its insured. So too under workmen's compensation acts the board is subrogated to the injured worker's right (up to the amount of the board's payments) to sue the responsible party.

My feelings: Only an Anti-Christ like Judge Alsup who offends the intelligence of all Christians everywhere would say that subrogation has no real effect or legal efficacy in the world. In his lies, He he would also deny that Jesus Christ, as a subrogation agent, took upon himself all the sins of the world, and literally paid for all sins and debts, and even had no legal right to do so, thus,. Judge Alsup is denying the greatest gift ever given. That's how unspiritual and stupid and devilish he is.

More lies:

mogel007 said...

Page 11: "There is nothing in the UCC that would alter the lender-borrower law described in these instructions. There is nothing in the federal-reserve system or other banking laws that affects the rights and duties of lenders and borrowers as I state them to you in these instructions. Nor is there anything in generally accepted accounting principles that would modify the law as I state it to you in thee instructions. "
My response: UCC 3-603(b) Rejection of the subrogation bond is discharge of the debt is one UCC law Judge Alsup failed to mention, however, there are many to refute his lies.
Also GAAP proves that the loan was paid off at closing if you can subpoena FAS 140, the offsheet accounting records of the banks which the banks refuse to provide as they call them "trade secrets" & "proprietary information."

Page 12: "Turning to Count One, it alleges that defendants knowingly conspired between themselves to devise a scheme to defraud lenders to obtain money by means of materially false statements. Count One alleges various attempts to eliminate mortgage pursuant to the alleged conspiracy."
My thoughts: There was never the intent to "defraud lenders" as the subrogation bond was given. There were no "false statements ever proven.

mogel007 said...

Page 13: "the accused knowingly conspired with one or more of the alleged co-conspirators to commit a scheme to defraud".
My thoughts: The conspiracy of a scheme to defraud was never proven. The intent to commit a crime was also never proven. Without the "intent", there was no case for the prosecution. Everything the Dorean did was based upon the law.

Page 14: "Falsely claiming that the loan secured by the property had been fully paid, when in fact the loan had allegedly not been fully paid, the alleged effect of which was to falsely eliminate the lender's secured collateral for the loan."
My thoughts: Again the loan was paid at closing, when the lender endorsed the note, and turned it into a negotiable instrument, but the lender never told the borrower this, it was paid a second time when the lender sold the note, and the lender never notified the borrower of this, and the alleged loan was paid a third time when the lender accepted the subrogation bond, and never timely dishonored it, and never sent it back. Who's to say that the lender didn't fractionalize the subrogation bond asset they received and use it so they can loan out even more money and profit thereby?

Page 15: First the accused devised a scheme to defraud for obtaining money or property?
My thoughts: What "scheme"? How did they defraud anyone? What property or money did they receive?

Page 15: "Second, the accused acted with the intend to defraud"?
My thoughts: The fraud was never proven by the prosecution.

Page 15: "Nor it is necessary for the government to prove that the alleged victim or victims of a scheme to defraud received any misleading statement or received any alleged mailing. It is necessary, however, for the government to prove the specific mailing alleged in the count."

My thoughts: government doesn't need to prove that the victims received misleading statements? How can you defraud someone by telling them the truth?

Page 15: "nor does it matter whether the scheme or plan was successful or that any money or property was obtained."
What???????

Page 16: " One issue for you to decide intent."
The Dorean Business plan put into the court record showed from the very beginning there was no intent to defraud. It showed the banks were defrauding borrowers.

Page 16-17: "Nor may you consider any issue of compensation for the allegedly defrauded investors. That is an entirely separate matter not relevant here and to which you should not speculate or base your decision in any way."

My thoughts: Let's see the amount the banks allegedly suffered or Dorean clients suffered was relevant in the sentencing, but is not relevant to the petite jury? So if the Dorean group received no money or properties, that this is not relevant to the jury in deciding whether a scheme to defraud happened or not? There is no scheme or artifice to defraud without the elements of "kickbacks" or "bribes", two elements never existing in the Dorean Process challenge to the banks according to the "Bond" case that was ruled upon in the last several years in the Supreme Court.

OMO said...

"You have heard evidence that the FBI raided the offices of the Dorean Group and that defendants were arrested. This information may not be used by you to infer that actions were committed."


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Truth of the matter iss the defendants were NOT arrested at the time the FBI raided the Dorean office. FBI stole the client files without a legitimate warrant, but they did not arrest Kurt or Scott at that time. The second sentence is just plain stupid. So what if actions were committed or not committed.

mogel007 said...


To seize or hold is still considered an arrest.
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See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
verb (used with object)
1.
to seize (a person) by legal authority or warrant; take into custody:
The police arrested the burglar.
2.
to catch and hold; attract and fix; engage:
The loud noise arrested our attention.
3.
to check the course of; stop; slow down:
to arrest progress.

OMO said...

Nobody was being held there- at least nobody was told they were.

OMO said...

FBI asked for our I.D.'s. When they asked for my I.D. I turned around and asked Marcia Doer if I had to show it to them. She fell silent- didn't say anything. Kurt and Scott were standing right there when I ask Marcia and neither one said anything aobut that. Everyone complied. lol

persistancepays said...

was marcia pretty?? if so, i would do her.

OMO said...

No, she was the bohemian type- a sojourner on the land. Wrinkles, long gray untrimmed hair, wore long and loose dresses. Didn't have a permanent residence. Don't have clue what she's doing now- probably in her 70's now. She was paid $1,600 A WEEK by Dorean Group to to write and put together all of the documents that needed to be sent to the bank and clients.

OMO said...

"You have heard evidence that the FBI raided the offices of the Dorean Group and that defendants were arrested."


Nobody was arrested; nobody was detained. Intimidated by FBI jackets yes, (lol) but not arrested or detained. No arrest warrants were served on Kurt, Scott or anyone.

persistancepays said...

Then Macia shoud not have a last name of Doher,or even w/o the H!! lol!!

OMO said...

Her last name was pronounced Door. Marcia Door, but spell Doer.

persistancepays said...

Then she should have been shown the door.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

mogel007 said...

If no one was detained, why didn't everyone just say, I'm not being arrested, so I'm just going to lunch right now and, is that OK, and just leave. Call their bluff. You are under no obligation to show I.D. There is no statute that requires this. And if you aren't being detained, why show I.D.? Why not ask, am I free to go? If they said "no", then you were arrested. If they said nothing to that question, and ignored you, just leave and see what they would have done. I suspect they would have detained you and stopped you. Had that have happened, it would be considered an arrest. The FBI garb, their guns, and ordering you against a wall, and their intimidation I think constitutes an arrest. The actions of the FBI and what people thought, supports the definition of an arrest and illegal stoppage of your work.

OMO said...

"Why not ask, am I free to go? If they said "no", then you were arrested. If they said nothing to that question, and ignored you, just leave and see what they would have done. I suspect they would have detained you and stopped you."
________________________


No, I'm not going to ask permission "Am I free to go?". The question itself is passive- it implies I understand what they are doing, who they are, what they are there fore, etc. I know nothing! If they had authority they would have showed it- I need not ask or do anything. They didnt' show any authority therefore they didn't have it!

OMO said...

"Am I free to go"? OMG, are you kidding me? The question itself implies that you know who they are, persons of authority. You wouldn't have asked if you didn't already know. Guilty as charged!

OMO said...

Why not ask, am I free to go? If they said "no", then you were arrested. If they said nothing to that question, and ignored you, just leave and see what they would have done. I suspect they would have detained you and stopped you. Had that have happened, it would be considered an arrest. The FBI garb, their guns, and ordering you against a wall, and their intimidation I think constitutes an arrest. The actions of the FBI and what people thought, supports the definition of an arrest and illegal stoppage of your work.
_________________

They would have said, "yes", you are being detained (arrested), because nobody had the confidence to walk away, confident in the knowledge they could defend and get themselves out of that situation had they been arrested and taken to holding cell.

OMO said...

Illinois is collapsing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUYdIP7mqs

OMO said...

Illinois is insolvent. Start listening at 22:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfKydv_XBQ&t=1451s

OMO said...

You don't do nothing in this country unless you get permission...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Xt3zNngvA

OMO said...

http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2017/06/canary-in-the-coal-mine-unfunded-liabilities-have-turned-illinois-into-a-banana-republic-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy-2669686.html

Illinois is the perfect example of what happens when your state is run by fiscally irresponsible dunces for decades. The state is buried debt, and hasn’t passed a budget in over 700 days. 100% of their monthly revenue is being consumed by court ordered payments, and the Illinois Department of Transportation has revealed that they may not be able to pay contractors (who are working on over 700 infrastructure projects) after July 1st if the state doesn’t pass a budget. To top it all off, the state’s credit rating is one step away from junk status, the lowest of any state. Because of these factors, Illinois may become the first state to declare bankruptcy since the Great Depression.

Dr. Caligari said...

In the attachment are the jury instructions.

"Prejudicial instructions like, page 1: "you must follow the law in my instructions whether you agree with the law or not."


Way too late now to object to jury instructions.

To object to jury instructions, the defendant must object "before the jury retires to deliberate," Fed. Rule Crim. Pro. 30(d), or else the issue cannot be raised on appeal. So if Kurt and Scott didn't object then, they waived the issue forever. If they did object then, they should have raised the issue on their initial appeal; if they didn't, they again waived the issue forever. If they raised the issue on appeal and the Court of Appeals ruled against them, the issue has been decided and can't be reopened.

persistancepays said...

Winston shouts last shrout out on the upcoming 2 tiered money system.

Here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjr_S9TUcWA

Almost 3 hrs long but worth it in my opinion.

persistancepays said...

On August 1, will shrout be eating tunafish "in the can" or will it be fresh homemade?? Time will tell....

"He purposely sent a package of 1,000 homemade International Bills of Exchange, each purporting to be a legal tender for a trillion dollars, to a small community bank in Chicago "hoping to slip one by an unsuspecting banker,'' U.S. Tax Division trial lawyer Scott Wexler told jurors."


"....Slip one by.....'. Looollloool!!!!

persistancepays said...

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/man_who_failed_to_pay_taxes_fo.html

persistancepays said...

Unsuspecting Baker.....'Oh yea, one trillion dollars, we get those everyday...'.... Thousands of em.....

OMO said...

At 2:26:00 Shrout says that by the end of the year we will no longer be using cash which means everyone is going to have to have a debit card. That means more job layoffs. No more bank tellers. Only ATM. Anyone whose job duties include handling cash or checks will either be laid-off or, if they are lucky, kept and given different duties.

OMO said...

Corporations to buy Illinios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31BxmYhhD9Y

persistancepays said...

Yes, everyone will have a pre loaded debit card with their birth certificate $$$$ loaded on it- global prosperity package/global reset/dg settlements $$$/ whatever you want to call it.....

persistancepays said...

And all that has a limited shelf life until it implodes for real.... In other words, until it goes MAD MAX movie reality.

persistancepays said...

Layoffs?? It won't matter. Everyone will have plenty of free $$$$.

OMO said...

Free money? In exchange for what? There is no free lunch. Throw all their empty promises in the junk heap! Don't follow those idiots! People believed Hitler and look what happened to them!

OMO said...

If you want to be led down the primrose path, that's your prerogative. As far as I'm concerned, they take their free money and stick it where the sun don't shine. Give me liberty or give me death!

persistancepays said...

There is going to be a 'free lunch' at least for a little while. You can refuse it if you like, but it's going to happen whether you agree with it or​ not.

OMO said...

No.

persistancepays said...

YES!

persistancepays said...

@49:30 of shouts video he says that he came back from the 7th dimsion....to straighten things out......hmmmmmmmm....???????????????????

persistancepays said...

Here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjr_S9TUcWA

shouts vidoo: Here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjr_S9TUcWA

OMO said...

Read the book The God's of Eden by William Bramley. The solution is to turn your back on all of it- walk away! Don't be fooled by the apparent light at the end of the tunnel. Turn your back and walk away... Choose freedom!

OMO said...
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OMO said...

@49:30 of shouts video he says that he came back from the 7th dimsion....to straighten things out......hmmmmmmmm....???????????????????
____________________

He also claims that he's never been on this planet before. According to the Andromedans, if he is here, he's been on this planet before! Instead of choosing to turn his back on the light, he chose the light, and if you choose the light, you choose to come back here! It's not really a choice per se, because he was not told he had a choice; nevertheless, he came back here because he didn't know he had another choice.


Start listening @ 5:00 to 7:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhXc73vm5EY&t=329s

OMO said...

Read Bramley's book and decide for yourself whether you think they will ever give this planet back to the people. Really think about it, and stop being deceived for once in your life for god's sake.

persistancepays said...

I'll turn my back when you give me all the money that you've got coming.πŸ˜‰

OMO said...

If they give it to you, you will be indebted to pay it back with either your blood, sweat or tears. No free lunch.

persistancepays said...

already doing/been doing that now anyway, and what to show for it??? -0-

OMO said...


Owe no man and you'll be happy as a claim.

OMO said...

to be happy and have no worries... that's worth its weight in gold.

OMO said...

Imagine taking 100% of your earnings home. Imagine no property taxes. Imagine no sales taxes. Imagine free energy- no electricity or gas bills. All of these things are possible except in a debt based monetary system.

Dr. Caligari said...

Attorneys are bonded, are they not?

No, but most carry liability insurance, which applies only if they're sued in court.

Can you go after that bond regardless of the SOL?

No.

Dr. Caligari said...

Scott got in the mail yesterday his Petition for Cert. If that petition is granted it will release both Kurt & Scott from prison.

The Supreme Court's docket is on-line and searchable. It shows nothing on file from either Kurt or Scott.

persistancepays said...

Can you go after that bond regardless of the SOL?

No.


SOL = sheet out of lunck.

persistancepays said...

Scott got in the mail yesterday his Petition for Cert. If that petition is granted it will release both Kurt & Scott from prison. He's been denied 4 times, but he's fix those issues now. Come May 27, 2017 it will be exactly 12 years of incarceration for Scott. So this is some good news on his recent filing in the court that will soon be heard. His Petition is one of innocence and alleging no crimes were committed and so the petite jury verdict is moot that sent him and Scott away.

SOL = SHIT OUT OF LUCK

persistancepays said...

"....but i tell yo da troot, beefo the cunck craw dice, yo will deeny me tree times....but da turd tymes da chum...."

persistancepays said...

n watch ot fo da shoks!!!

persistancepays said...

The Supreme Court's docket is on-line and searchable. It shows nothing on file from either Kurt or Scott.

it already done, so now remoofed from duckits.

Dr. Caligari said...

it already done, so now remoofed from duckits.

The Supreme Court docket shows every case that has been filed, including its disposition if the case has been decided. So if a cert. petition was either granted, denied or filed but not yet decided, it would be on the docket.

There is no current case on the Supreme Court docket in the names of either Kurt or Scott.

That leaves two possibilities: the person who said Scott had filed a new cert. petition was incorrect; or Scott attempted to file something, but the Supreme Court Clerk's Office refused to file it because it violated some provision of the Supreme Court's rules. See Supreme Court Rule 1.1 ("The Clerk ... has authority to reject any submitted filing that does not comply with these Rules"). For example, the Clerk can refuse to file a Petition that is too late (see Supreme Court Rules 14.1 [cert. petition in a criminal case must be filed within 90 days of the lower court's decision] and 14.2 [Clerk will not file a cert. petition which is late]).

OMO said...

1,600 Federal Reserve Notes for one gold coin:

https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2017-one-ounce-gold-uncirculated-coin-17EH.html?cgid=gold-coins#start=1

persistancepays said...

the person who said Scott had filed a new cert. petition was incorrect, ie 'they lied' ;-(

persistancepays said...

are you saying that mongrel 700 lied??

OMO said...

"the person who said Scott had filed a new cert. petition was incorrect.

Misguided maybe, but not incorrect.

OMO said...

Even the gold standard is bad...


Excerpt from the book The Gods of Eden by William Bramley pgs 218-219


By the 17th century, the Medici banking house of Italy had come up with the idea of using gold as the commodity upon which to base all paper currency. Gold was touted as the perfect basis for paper notes because of the scarcity and desirability of gold. This was the beginning of the “gold standard” in which all other goods and services are valued in relation to gold (and sometimes silver). The gold standard was certainly a terrific idea for those people who owned plenty of gold and silver, but it created an artificial reliance on a commodity that is not nearly as useful as many other products. To base an entire monetary system on a single commodity is better than basing it upon no commodities at all, but even under a gold standard paper notes will far exceed the metals used to back the notes. The best solution is to root a money supply in a nation's entire valuable output so that the money acts as an accurate reflection of that output.

Once the gold standard was created, paper notes were thought to be “as good as gold” because people could redeem the notes for actual gold. This created a false sense of security. As more and more gold notes entered the market, they gradually became worth less and less, resulting in a steady inflation. The gold owners/bankers had to keep issuing a constant stream of notes because that is how they earned their profits. As long as the bankers planned carefully and the people retained faith in the notes, the note writers could stay ahead of the inevitable inflation they created and make an enormous profit from it. If, on the other, they issued an overabundance and too many of their notes came back for redemption, they could, as a last resort, devalue the notes to save their gold. In this fashion, inflatable paper money, even under a gold standard, became a source of wealth and power to those entitled to create the money. It also generated indebtedness on an enormous scale because most of the “created-out-of-nothing” gold notes were released into the community as loans repayable to the bankers. If people did not borrow from the bankers, little new currency would enter the market and the economy would slow down.

This method of creating money clearly destroyed the true purpose of money: to represent the existence of actual tradeable commodities. Inflatable paper money allows a handful of people to absorb and manipulate a great deal of true wealth, which are the valuable goods and services people produce, simply through the act of printing paper with inflation. It causes money to become its own commodity which can be manipulated on its own terms, usually to the detriment of the production-and-barter system. Money was meant to assist that system, not to dominate and control it.

OMO said...

Illinois bankruptcy caused by BIG PHARMA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8z9va3Y50

Dr. Caligari said...

"the person who said Scott had filed a new cert. petition was incorrect.

Misguided maybe, but not incorrect.


All I know is that no cert petition is on file. I don't know if the person who said Scott filed one was lying, mistaken or confused. For all I know, Scott may have actually tried to file one but (under the Supreme Court Rules I cited above) the filing was rejected by the Clerk as untimely.

persistancepays said...

"..... if the person was lying, mistaken or confused....

"....if the person found at the bottom of the building jumped, fell or was pushed....?

/s/ Dr. R Quincy,
Chief Medical Examiner
Coroners Office
County of Los Angeles
California

persistancepays said...

and btw, check out all the $$$ people got back from the IRS tax.

here: http://losthorizons.com/Newsletter.htm#Victories

OMO said...
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OMO said...

I deleted the post because just the thought of IRS makes me ill.

OMO said...

If you owe taxes from previous years you won't get a refund. Any refund will be applied to previous years. You won't be able to fix any other problematical returns as peacefully.

OMO said...

CtC is mainly for traditional return filers and there's always a chance the next years zero return will be rejected/returned as frivolous. Then you'll have to spend more time at losthorizons learning how to refute IRS's frivolous letters. If you get a frivolous letter from IRS it means they've now coded you as a tax protester. Happy filing!

OMO said...

Is paper money constitutional? Answer: No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40MBdt1BQgE

Fake quotes:

http://tomwoods.com/the-greenbackers-fake-quote-industry/

"Then there’s this Jefferson quotation that a lot of Greenbackers use: “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.”

This one is a total fake. The terms “inflation” and “deflation” are anachronistic here, for one thing, not being in use in Jefferson’s time.

Now there are plenty of anti-national bank quotations one can find from American statesmen, so why use a fake one? I suspect the answer is that this fake quotation goes after the “private banks,” which Greenbackers oppose. So now Jefferson is made to look like someone who wants the government, not the “private banks,” issuing the paper money. But Jefferson was a hard-money man to the end, calling for the retirement of all paper money and its replacement with specie, and writing the introduction to the English translation of Destutt de Tracy’s hard-money treatise."

OMO said...

https://mises.org/library/did-framers-favor-hard-money


"The historian of early American banking, Bray Hammond, leaves no doubt as to the conclusion that any honest historian or constitutional scholar should draw:

Was it intended that though the states might not issue paper money, establish other legal tender, and impair contracts, the federal government might do so? The question is not to be answered by the Supreme Court's subsequent decision that the federal government does have the power nor by the fact that the federal government has exercised the power. The question is historical and is not answered by jurisprudence or by subsequent practice. Was the power intended? The answer … seems clear enough: it is no."


"Two centuries later, our money supply is composed entirely of government-issued fiat currency and bank deposits redeemable in the same currency. The money supply and the banking system are largely controlled by means of federal laws and the existence of a powerful central bank. None of which are authorized by the Constitution. It is yet more evidence that our government is no more constitutional than it is democratic or liberal."

persistancepays said...

Buy gold!

persistancepays said...

Or Bitcoin!

OMO said...

Most people will not educate themselves on bitcoin, because the majority don't get their paycheck in bitcoin. What needs to be changed is what people are paid with, which only the corporations can change. The corporations have to say bye-bye to the federal reserve. I wouldn't hold my breath.

OMO said...

If people stood outside the corporations demanding to be paid in bitcoin, it could be the one hundreth monkey- one after another all around the country.

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OMO said...

From Oxford Dictionary of Word Origins:

pay [Middle English] The original meaning of pay was 'to pacify', and it goes back to Latin pax 'peace' (see peace). The notion of 'payment' arose from the sense of 'pacifying' a creditor.
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The only entity who is ever pacified/satisified and/or paid, is the state, the corporation/creditor or government entity. It's a creditor/debtor relationship. You agreed to be paid in federal reserve notes, therefore, the state, the corporation/creditor, or government entity, can demand the return of same. There was never any real or actual agreement, only the presumption of one.


OMO said...

That's why the creditor, the state, the corporation, or the corporate federal government, never demands payment in federal reserve notes or digits or anything else because then you could demand to see the contract. Just ask any creditor, corporation, or corp. federal or state entity what they want as payment and see what they say. They don't dare say it, because then you could demand to see the contract/agreement. There has to be one, even if they don't demand a certain currency because whatever you pay them with has to be the agreement. But don't hold your breath, they will never tell you what they want to be paid with, but they will keep demanding that you pay them. Wierd.

persistancepays said...

Bitcoin is coming! It cannot be stopped!! Sit back and watch before this year is out. O'Day is 7-16-17

persistancepays said...

Today is 7-16-17

OMO said...

Have you seen what Oregon just did? They can now take your guns without notifying you, how will this play out for the rest of the country?

To watch the two-minute video, scroll down to ALL VIDEOS third row lower left-hand corner.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/FreedomPrepperHQ/videos/?ref=page_internal

Except that this is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. What else is new, they do whatever they want to do.

OMO said...



The US Government Clamps Down on Ability of Americans To Purchase Bitcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DB4MjH9sA

persistancepays said...

bitcon aint gone nowhweres. it will be hear for decades to come, truss me.... every attack on it jsut makes it stronger and flushes out the would be attackers. the tide has turned and wont be coming back in anytime soon....

OMO said...

Do you own any bitcoin, persistance?

OMO said...

Neither do I.

persistancepays said...

i did own sme and sold it to buy some Ag which i feel will be better to own long term.

OMO said...

http://www.nationwidecoins.com/buy-gold-silver-coins/

OMO said...

We live in a digital age where everything is bought and sold with digits. How are we ever going to go back to trading with real assets? The only way is if digital world crashes to the ground giving us the opportunity to get it right once again.


OMO said...


This just in:

http://naturalnews.com/2017-07-16-health-ranger-warns-bitcoin-collapse-under-way.html

Remember: Bitcoin isn’t backed by gold. It isn’t backed by anything at all. There’s nothing technically superior to Bitcoin compared to other crypto currencies such as Ethereum or Z-cash. As a result, nearly all the growth in Bitcoin over the last few months was based on speculative greed, where people hope to cash in on the bubble of crypto currencies even though they don’t understand the real risk.

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OMO said...

Don't listen to Mike Adams.

Hear this. Start listening from 12:50 to the end

We need to take back our system!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvsbAoYYJ0&t=823s


persistancepays said...

mick adams nose a lot aabout heath rangler, but i dont no ho much he nose bout bitcons???

mogel007 said...

Discharging debt website:

http://understandcontractlawandyouwin.com/debt-discharge-private-administrative-process/mortgage-elimination/

mogel007 said...

According to Harry Dent, a well known economist, who has been right more than wrong, says in the long run, gold and silver is not the place to put your money, so he is the minority on this subject. He believes silver will go down to $5.00 an ounce and is in a negative downward spiral along with gold that will settle somewhere around $500 an ounce. He believes that the metal market is going down from 2017 to 2022 due to the deflationary cycle we are in. Maybe when the metals bottom out, it will be a good investment again.
Then you have Mr. Rickards who says that the BRIC countries will vote out the US Dollar as the supreme international currency in the middle of Oct. 2017 which will be the trigger event to the impending US crash and could start the downward spiral of the stock market whom Dent believes is headed for a 60% decline in value.
Don't know if they are right or wrong, or just trying to sell their newsletters, but it's something to watch.

persistancepays said...

harry has a dent in his analysis of the metals markets....

persistancepays said...

deflation will be limited due to the impending reset...that will loose lots of currency and smart ppl wil buy metals with it and some bitcions too

OMO said...

Peter Schiff the globalist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5brhGUykE


Decentralize Everything. Buy bitcoin.

OMO said...

Anything the centralised bankers can't control has great value. It's an idea whose time has come. Decentralized money is the greatest value.

OMO said...

Freedom is the Greatest Value!

persistancepays said...

Value is the greatest value!!!!πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

OMO said...

From Oxford Dictionary of Word Origins:

Free [Old English] The adjective free appears in the writings of King Alfred (reigned 871-99) and comes from an ancient root meaning 'to love', from which we also get *friend. Freedom is also Old English. The French philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-78) wrote, 'Man was born free, and everywhere he is in chains', whilce in the 1960 T.V. series The Prisoner, Patrick McGoohan cried, 'I am not a number, I am a free man!' [rest omitted]

OMO said...

Dollar Vigilante:

4:35 ..." We are going to have a collapse of this entire financial system. It's going to happen soon. We're not talking 20 years-- we're talking months or years at this point. It's not going to go five or ten years more without collapse."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2tbuIWxd8&t=181s


He also says there is risk in buying Bitcoin but only because it is Internet dependent- If the Internet disappears so does Bitcoin. In that case, buy physical gold.

mogel007 said...

Physical gold does not appreciate in a deflationary cycle, a cycle we are in right now. And because so much debt that can't be repaid is going to be written off, it is going to cause further deflation, NOT INFLATION. The FED wants inflation and aren't getting what they want. Gold goes up during an inflationary cycle , not a deflationary cycle of time that we are still in for the most part, so there is no "dent" in that thinking, sorry. Where has gold gone in the last 3 years? It's gone down has it not from it's high of about $1900 or there abouts? Bitcoin will go up and gold and silver will continue to go down, as the metals are a bad investment right now and a bad call. Even by using graphs, you can see that this is true through extrapolation.

Remember 3 or 4 years ago, it was said that the Dow would not go above 10,000 because some graphing theory system proved it couldn't? Well that was hogwash too. the Dow has more than doubled since that faulty advice which was based upon following and believing bad gurus.

Or you can take OMO's philosophy of investing and life: "That's right. Luck. To some extent we have control over what happens to us, but for the most part we don't."

I wonder how that philosophy is working for her? At least with that philosophy you don't have to take responsibility for any choices you make or mistakes you make in life as you can't be responsible for decisions or what happens to you because you have little control over them. Life happens to you, not the other way around.
Seems to me if a collapse is coming and you know it, there certainly is a way to profit from that knowledge. It isn't luck and it isn't the economy that is bankrupting your life, but you would be profiting from that knowledge and that timing of the collapse, assuming that you really believed what you were saying and you took it to heart.
I don't accept everything Harry Dent says, because if you did, you would also have to believe the crash is coming in 2017 as he says. Well the banking system collapsed in 1998 and in 2008, so if it crashes soon, we have been on borrowed time for a long time anyway already. I read an article that there are more renters now than at any other time. Prices need to crash (deflation) especially in real estate because the latest generation can't afford the mortgage on an average home now. If only I can pick exactly when to get out.

OMO said...


I don't have any philosophy of investing, and life does just happen to you. Did you plan to be born, or did it just happen to you? Did your parents plan to have you or did you plan to come here yourself?

I don't believe in in 401Ks or IRAs, or buying money to make money. Money should be used for TRADE, nothing else.

I don't have time for philosophizing. You have no clue.

mogel007 said...

As a matter of fact, my faith teaches I did choose to come to this earth while I lived in the premortal life as a spirit and chose my parents too, and the time of the earths existence to come also, also affirmed by my patriarchal blessing, so it's real funny that you asked. It's not happen stance as you assume, so it's not as if life happens to you with no choice and no agency:

https://mormonbeliefs.org/mormon_beliefs/mormon-beliefs-the-plan-of-salvation/the-plan-of-salvation-the-pre-existence/

You're the one that doesn't have a clue half the time.

OMO said...

Believe what you want. Who am I to tell you what to believe or not to believe?



persistancepays said...

fact is that God said that Gold is money, not fake out of thin air money.

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Sovereign is a gold coin...

From Oxford's Dictionary of Word Origins:

sovereign [Middle English] Latin super 'above' as in *Superior was used to form Old French soverain. The ending was then altered in the 15th century so that it looked as if the word was associated with reign. The word was used as a term for a gold coin minted in England from the time of Henry VII to Charles I; it was originally worth 22s 6d. The sovereign was revived in 1817 with a value of one pound.

mogel007 said...

This is what I said about inflation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7ccdee4a-6a20-3216-90ac-466190c98c52/ss_why-the-inflation-rate-is-a.html

OMO said...


Cash or credit? Try bitcoin or litecoin. This cafe only accepts payments in cryptocurrency.

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/?hc_ref=ARRHGg2DCZN5h0q5lOkOqygMnkkz4ZVmHbN1FMlAjpNgmMvk3o5yzff4jqZiyUc5jtw&fref=nf

persistancepays said...

http://i-uv.com/oppt-absolute/

OMO said...

holy crap, you've gotta see it to believe it!:

https://www.facebook.com/D12MUSIC/videos/vb.107591109312287/1664204316984284/?type=2&theater

persistancepays said...

that alvin handsum guy wasnt too pretty with his skinny leans for $$$ in the trillons....here is a big fat leans with $$ in the quads...quadrillons that is...


http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/North-American-Water-and-Power-Alliance.pdf


ok, when we now gonna see some nun..or preest fill a fat leans fo $$ in the quints...quintillons that is...????

price keeps gong up!!!

persistancepays said...

see SEC. 14 of the lien: ALL REAL MEN WITH HANDS AND LEGS.

IS THIS LLOOLO OR WHAT????


14. FAKE MEN WITH NO HANDS OR LEGS

persistancepays said...

ALL REAL MENS WITH HAND AND LEGS IE, 'FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMRICA' IE PLEDGE YOUR FULL LABOR AS SLAVE TO DA SINTRAL BANK

persistancepays said...

Free Money? Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts (Birth Certificate/Strawman Trust/Bond) -- Understanding the Law, Risks, and Potential Consequences

UPDATE: I received this information from Jordan Sather of Destroying the Illusion. On July 12th, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta warned that using your social security number and Fed routing numbers to pay your bills (which is the Treasury Direct Account process), could result in delays and late fees. Notice they didn't say it was illegal.

Consumer Scam Alert: Do Not Use Federal Reserve Routing Account Numbers to Pay Bills; Could Face Late Fees, Other Charges

persistancepays said...

late fees???

trap?

prbly cuase it would not be the fed res bank to warn about penalities, it would eitehr come from USDOTR or HOMESEC or DOJ or FBI or SS (SEC SERV)

thats why

fed res bank is private and cannot issue legal warnings

persistancepays said...

USDOTR US DEPT OF TR3EASURY

mogel007 said...

Dept. of Justice seized www.btc-e.com

Have you noticed? I wonder what's going on?

persistancepays said...

btw, havent heard anything from dr. flinston, or capt. krik, or even eng. scooty??

wahts gong on wit da dg??

OMO said...

Kurt and Scott need to read the book You Have the Right to Remain Innocent by James Duane. Very eye opening.

persistancepays said...

Ive got a better idea....everyone should read the book, "THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE UNIVERSE" (Gary Renard) at least twice.

"When the Holy Spirit is done correcting the Universe, it will disappear."

Read the book, its a 'must read.'

OMO said...

You mean we have to wait 5 billion years for humans to correct themselves?

persistancepays said...

Follow Feather And Touche's Giraffe accunt of her going thru ruffly the same thing as Capt. Krik and Scooty went thru with the dg, ie a trial that was biased agianst them.

As she attempts to access her (ours) TDA accts. Treasury Direct Accounts which if she is successful, will dwarf the amounts that one could ever receive from the DG settlements, ie, access to the US Treasury accts.

She like the DG was successful, but now must fight agaisnt all the charges that the g has brought up against her.

Follow it all daily here: http://i-uv.com/update-from-heather-8417-608-pm-est/

persistancepays said...

Admiralty law on trial.

http://i-uv.com/admiralty-law-on-trial-federal-reserve-tda-accounts-heather-jarraf-trial/

Like doodle Trump says, this could be yuuuuuuuuuuuge!!!!

OMO said...




https://conspiracydailyupdate.com/2017/07/29/indictment-charges-against-heather-ann-tucci-randall-keith-beane/


"It is important to keep in mind everyone is innocent UNTIL proven guilty."

It basically accuses and charges before one is given the opportunity to prove themselves innocent. No one should have to go to jail before given the opportunity to prove themselves innocent. With an indictment you're guilty before you're innocent.

Indictment is a scary word for Officially Accused and Charged.

OMO said...

Indictment is a scary word for Officially Accused and Charged, AND THAT'S WRONG.


Once you are Officially Accused and Charged it's very hard to turn that around.

persistancepays said...

I think that she will ultimately win, even if on appeal.

persistancepays said...

That means we will TDA accounts.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ’°πŸ’°πŸ’°

persistancepays said...

heres waht happened to the guy that bought the $450K motor home using his "TDA" treasury account:

If you remember how this got started was Randall being charged with the same violation, on a purported warrant from “Jasper Colorado” Sheriff’s department. Randall K Beane was followed by men purporting to be police of several agencies, even passed while he was driving, they pointed at him and laughed. When Randall arrived at the RV dealer (I’m recounting the story as I was told it – if those that were there can correct any inaccuracies please contact me and I will fix them). Randall was then surrounded by these same purported officers, some FBI, some Federal Marshalls, some County Sheriff, some Knoxville police. Randall was then yanked out of the motor home (and those doors are quite high off the ground), elbow butted to the head left bleeding on the ground, and kicked and stomped on. An ambulance was already in place (something we have seen in Morocco) as they intended to do violence to him. He was treated by the medics for the head wound. He was assaulted by officers once more inside the jail according to those who have spoken to him. He was kept in a very isolated state, and is now only allowed postcards from friends. If he gets those at all.

persistancepays said...

sorta similar to whqt krik and scoot went thourgh. only for even bigger stake$....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

persistancepays said...

only theres even more to this story here: http://i-uv.com/the-view-from-the-ground-part-1/

it gets even more interesting......???????

persistancepays said...

tehy even charged them with money landering.

when the source of funds was well known and proven.

Mind you money laundering is something the drug cartels do, intelligence agencies (of all countries) do, and the mafia does to hide the source of funds. Yet nothing was hidden, the source of funds was REVEALED to be Randall’s TDA account at the Federal Reserve. Randall used the account with his Social Security and his birth name on it. That is not a bogus account, Randall proved it was quite real. I worked as a consultant at VISA many years ago in transaction processing, and whether its a credit card account, or a debit card processed through the ACH system, those accounts and names MUST match or they do not go through. Randall’s withdrew $1.5 million, approximately $500,000 of which he bought a motorhome with (it is after all his account!), there are billions in each account.

persistancepays said...

"....yo, come on judge, i only took $1.5M from my account and its got billons in it.....gimme a break, will ya!!.."

LOLLLOOLLOLOOOLLLLLOLOLLLLLLLLOLLLLOLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLOLOLLLOLOLL!!!!!

persistancepays said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/magazine/she-was-convicted-of-killing-her-mother-prosecutors-withheld-the-evidence-that-would-have-freed-her.html


tennesee must be tough!!

just look at the abouve article, in addition to many previous articels where the police abuse the right of civil forgeiture acts. stopping out of statge motorists and just taking their money for no reason and calling it drug money or landering money.

isnt tennessee the state where they assinated jerry kane, the only man to this day who was able to clear mortages and was sooo good, that the only way that they felt that they could stop him was by killing him outside a walmart.

ive gpt to google it, but i think that it was during a stop in tennesee?

if i recall, they riddled his car with so many bullets, it looked like the car that they caught up with john dillinger many decades ago.

killed him, his kid and their dog too in the car.

never been solved as to waht happened.












persistancepays said...

kanes vids are still on youtube but i think that his death scarred aeveryone off from using his process.

persistancepays said...

just youtubed searched it, yep it was memphis tn where they caoueght up with him.

Police officers killed web cam catch shoot out dead in West Memphis by Jerry and Joe Kane part 3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBFblUr05o

persistancepays said...

the batards may have gotten away with it, but they wont escaape karma.

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