Friday, August 26, 2005

“Let The Games Begin”

It appears the State of Utah is moving to dismiss at my next hearing on the 26th don’t get excited this is good but not as you perceive. They are moving to add charges and to recover from fatal flaws of their first case. They will refile and I will not get out and have to start the process over. I will have my movement and am glad because this move in the game is ahead of my schedule by about two months. The second case will be dismissed in the near future and then the third and final case will be the actual battle. The playbook is antique and outdated but somewhat effective because it is easy today to round up a gaggle of kiss-ass judges who will sell theirs souls to the political agenda of the executive branch. I am a political prisoner and there is no justice in my future. Fortunately I am prepared to win the political game and ultimately shame every corrupt judge who conspires to deprive me justice. Here are the fatal flaws, which would bar Utah from ever proceeding in the future, but will be ruled on improperly on the 26th.

1. They are proceeding on an unverified complaint making arraignment impossible and incurable. Estopping Utah.

2. The judge forced upon me a misrepersenter in breach of the contract we agreed to and is effectively joined in a conspiracy to convict which could be construed as practicing law from the bench, a felony. Such actions led to an improper ruling that was prejudicial to me, by denying me a triable defense.

3. Utah has committed a fraud upon the court making me a fugitive which effectively denied me a reasonable bail very prejudicial and another estoppel.

4. They have exceeded my right to a speedy trial again very prejudicial and another estoppel. A speedy trial demand was filed 6-30-05.

Any normal judge forced with these estoppels would bar Utah from ever proceeding by dismissing with prejudice and would impose sanctions. I promise you this, I will not get justice! The good news is if they think they have to cheat to win they are scared and I have already won. Time becomes the last foe to conquer. These bowls of applesauce will easily be plowed through. To be continued…

45 comments:

WillToFight said...

We'll beat the Drums for you guys!

We know at some point they must back off of us!

Kurt said

Any normal judge forced with these estoppels would bar Utah from ever proceeding by dismissing with prejudice and would impose sanctions. I promise you this I will not get justice! The good news is if they think they have to cheat to win they are scared and I have already won. Time becomes the last foe to conquer. These bowls of applesauce will easily be plowed through. To be continued…

It is clear to me that you have won Kurt! I do understand as well that you can not get Justice from the Un-Just!

seen il in utah said...

Let me remind you that I never bought an axe, I don't have a grinder, & I don't have any time to post on this blog because I am out of town.

I 'weighed in' & it has absolutely nothing to do with steaks.

Everything I say is 'unequivocal' especially when I used the words:

mess, scam, scheme, scheme, hocus pocus, taken in, decent legal help, mess, adage, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is NOT true, Best wishes, duped, nor am I any kind of crusader against them, my business deals in the law, mess, impartial observer, primarily made-up items, made-up gobbgledy gook, absolutely and completely illegal, purports, supposedly, phony, fraud and is illegal, commit further fraud, blatant fraud, newly defrauded, with no intent of repaying it, I have to leave now, Good luck, ignorant moron, pathetic effort, clearly illegal and fraudulent actions, illegal and fraudulent activities, I have real heartfelt concern, scam, kill off the entire mess, fall prey to crooks, etc.

BUT REMEMBER THIS MOST OF ALL:

"nor am I any kind of crusader against them"

& "Best wishes to all"

livinginxs said...

Kurt,
eat something so you will stop rambeling.

why dont you let us your clients, agents and brokers put together a legal fund, hire the best lawyers and get you and Scott out of jail- so you can fight this battle from a place you can win.

need I remind you - that you are already a convicted felon. If you go to trail this will just put you back in the slammer - guilty or not - their (the govt & bankers) legal teams will chew you up without proper repensentation & the battle will be lost for all.

Think about the 4,000 clients & stop thinking about yourself for once. I think you are more concerned about being in the history books then the clients you took in.

They_and_or_Them said...

willtofight.

Are you trying to be some kind of ESPN sportscaster (Chris Berman) with all the made up names?

What good has that done for the fight?

I support Kurt and the fight against the banking system, I just happen to have a few questions and because someone other than you chooses to voice their opinions and ask questions, you try to poke fun and make off the wall accusations and lump people in groups.

I am aware of the attorney in Chicago (BL) and of some of the successful battles. I understand that the fight is right.

Quit fighting for the sake of fighting.

Start fighting with fact rather than rhetoric.

Quit being so intentially hard to get along with.

Calm down

Even someone that is starving for food will reject it if you try to force feed them.

Just Food For Thought.

Now Swallow It!

Gforce said...

Kurt---JUSTICE WILL BE DONE---"Trust in the Lord...Your righteousness will shine like the morning dawn and the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.... Wait and you will see your desire established upon your enemies....you will be exalted in honor....the desire of the wicked will perish and come to nothing."Ps.37--112

Still Believe said...

Isn't there a law firm out there that would like to make their mark on history by taking this case on a contigency? If you win, I am sure the pay off can be very rewarding and more importantly, your firm will be in every history book in the library.

Would just be nice to see someone step up and assist our leaders from the streets.

livinginxs said...

You would think the news media and some civil rights firm would be all over this

Solvo said...

They_and_or_Them said...

I am aware of the attorney in Chicago (BL) and of some of the successful battles. I understand that the fight is right.


You are correct on the initials, t_a_o_t!

This gentleman told me, although it's not clear as you'd really want it to be, it's there.

Peanut Gallery said...

willtofight said

Sorry PeanutGallery must have misread. The post go for so long. Then you have to return to the top to make a statement.

Forgive me!

No problemo amigo

imbigo said...

see il or it whichever...

Correction; IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, MAYBE SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT !!!

These are the same people over and over, just changing their names to through you off.

Read the post from Kurt, and let these guys talk to themselves, will see who is still standing in the end.

BIG "O" 1+1+1=1

Peanut Gallery said...

imbigo said

see il or it whichever...

Correction; IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, MAYBE SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT !!!

These are the same people over and over, just changing their names to through you off.

Read the post from Kurt, and let these guys talk to themselves, will see who is still standing in the end.


Can i hear an AMEN.

Oh I'm sorry, is that too religious
for the dissenters?

WillToFight said...

tHEN_THEN_OR_tHEY

Don't have time for ESPN.

I can digg what your saying. Still, I don't "get along" just to "Get along"

I spoke on this yesturday before the current post. Some of us actually study the issue.

Now you see the post by Kurt in confirmation of what Solvo, I and others have been saying.

I am only saying, with so many of the enemy infiltrating our every move, it is not wise to speak of much substance until Kurt decides to do that himself.

I am calm. Yes, I polk fun! Study the word "Fun" in comparison to the terrany of injustice that is being perpetrated by our judiciary.

I respect you post Then_and_or_them, However?????????????????????

WillToFight said...

Amen Amen Amen Amen!

WillToFight said...

Legal Defense Fund. Count me in!!

whataboutjere said...

If one wanted to research the facts behind "Acceptance Denied For Cause Without Dishonor," where would one start?

Tdaddy said...

Kurt, here's an opinion...Go on the offense, file a civil RICO, file your own private criminal reports with the US Attorney, with the proper affidavits attached to your RICO case. You need to go after the fraud from the issuing "authority" for the criminal acts against you guys. We have the power to arrest for illegal acts. Felonies ! Give notice of arrest after/alongside your criminal reports filings.

Tdaddy
Take it to them.

livinginxs said...

lets do it

livinginxs said...

why dont some of the brokers, i.e. fle & guy, call the news media and bust this wide open?

most of the 4000 clients would support & fund this. someone would have to take notice with a force of this size - providing we are in the right - hell, it would bring more attention if we were all in the wrong.

we need a national source - someone to listen

I bet there is some big law firm that would love to take on this fight - what about the one who just got wacko jacko off???

livinginxs said...

does the tro keep them from talking? did that apply to fle & ccr?? anyone seen the order??

Peanut Gallery said...

So TCOB,

What is your answer?
Are you in a foreclosure situation or not?

Are you going to loose your house as you claim?

Did you put yourself in the situation because you ignored the advice of Dorean and quit making your payments?

You are real good at demanding answers from everone else, but when a few legitimate questions are posed to you, you are silent.

So, how about some answers man.

gotlight said...

"Acceptance Denied For Cause Without Dishonor,"
type this in google search engine and read on....whereabouts...

tcob247 said...

peanutless....

If you would pay attention and do some reading you would have found that I have stated clearly in here exactly what my experience has been. Probably 3 or 4 times

Maybe you are too lazy or incompetent. Both?

Why would I try to avoid those questions?

I am not like other people in here who can't or won't answer my question.

So...here are my SPECIFIC answers to your questions.
WILL ANYONE ANSWER MINE?
I doubt it....

Quote:
So TCOB,

What is your answer?
Are you in a foreclosure situation or not? ** No, I am not **

Are you going to loose your house as you claim?
** I am not going to lose my house. I did however lose control of my house for a long time. It took me over three months from the time I started to get my Quit Claim. I did not own my house for awhile, Kurt did. I will not go into all the details, but it was hell to try and get my own house back from these people **

Did you put yourself in the situation because you ignored the advice of Dorean and quit making your payments?
** I kept making payments and still am. (even though I have a "free and clear" mortgage.) What a fricking joke **

You are real good at demanding answers from everone else, but when a few legitimate questions are posed to you, you are silent.
* see above you idiot, I've never run from questions. I am not able to be on here constantly like you are *
Are you happy now littlepeanut?

Now please answer my question.

Is there ONE person (out of thousands) who has successfully gone through the process?

Anyone?

Elmer Fudd said...

You'll be waiting till your blue in the face for an answer to that question. Seems to me Kurt loves the jail system. If that was me i would be doing everything in my power to get the hell out..How's the Fast there buddy boy. :P

Peanut Gallery said...

No tcob, you have not stated what your position exactly.

BTW is it possible for you to address someone with a modicom of civility? I do not believe I reverted to mname calling as you have. But since I am so lazy and incompetent, I could be mistaken.

Also since you only answer questions with questions, I can only assume that are refusing to answer the ones posed to you.

So, one more time s l o w l y .

Are you in foreclosure?

If so, did you ignore the advice given and stop making your payments?

If you did stop making payments, did you spend the money or bankroll it like a normal thinking person would?

Elmer Fudd said...

Peanut before you buy the DvD set from dorean i suggest you get hooked on phonics...Tcob explained it all to you...What's the matter with ya, did you take off your safety helmet?

Peanut Gallery said...

elmer fudd,

Is it possible for you to respond to anyone without insults?

What is your problem?

Since I am new to this blog I have not had time to read every post.

So I you can please tell me where I can find tcob's amswers, I will gladly go there and read them.

Elmer Fudd said...

Five post up from bottom of page including your own. Ok no more insults.

tcob247 said...

peanut....you are joking right????

Want me to come hit you in the head

Just look a couple of posts up

I now believe you are a complete idiot

You have given me no other reason to believe it is so

LOLOLOL

tcob247 said...

people....can I get any more specific for the peanutless one?

tcob247 said...

hopefully you have found it by now.

Are you happy now?

Will you now answer my question?

Peanut Gallery said...

tcob and elmer,
My appologies for not seeing the post. I glanced over it looking for a seperate post.

I will answer your question.

No, no ,no ,not one.

I believe that your agent may have not fully explained to you that this was an adversarial process and that the time table for sucess was certainly a variable that needed to be realized.

I too believe that there was way too much hype as to the success of the program at the time many of us signed up.

But that is water under the bridge and there is no reason to keep gnawing at that point.

I went into this after studying the mortgage elimination process for some time. I had already been burned once for $5000.00 on a program that was truely a scam , scam, scam.

Fool me once,same on you. Fool me twice shame on me? No not in this case.

I looked at what was being proposed and realized that this was something that had never been done before in the M.E. arena.

Regardless of what all the so called legal experts expound, the systematic process is within the laws and rights under the U.C.C.

Now I know my next statement is going to get me called a lot of ugly names by the dissenters, so I will try my best not respond in a hostile childish manner to the insults.

This whole thing is bigger than Scott, Kurt, Dr fred etc,etc,etc.

I am not trying to be cryptic, but that is all I can say. Trust Kurt when he says that this is exactly where he wanted the process to be, and the timeframe he wanted it to be in. Maybe even sooner.

The scammers that took my $5000.00 on the previous scam, fled with in 4 months of my signing up. And I could not get ahold of anyone at anytime along the so called process.

At the time Dorean was launched the feild was ripe with people looking to get involved with one process or another. It would have been very easy for Scott, and Kurt, to come in for a few hundred clients and skip out. Thier infrastructure was way beyond what it needed to be just to bilk a couple hundred grand at the time.

I need to go. There so many things I want to say, but will have to refrain at this time.

Let me leave you with this. Be patient. All this fighting and back biting is counter productive.

There is an end goal here, we just can't see the post completely yet.

I for one think that the money spent was worth the risk. And believe me I could certainly use that $4,500.00 bucks now

Elmer Fudd said...

I apologize for the insults. I for one will clean it up. But i will be a naysayer in a respectful way until proven wrong. Love Always ELMER FUDDS

tcob247 said...

thank you for being honest

I knew it was adversarial.
However, there claim of only 10% of the banks misbehaving was very misleading.
I think they have mislead us numerous times
I think it is unforgivable given the 100's of people they have hurt.

my opinion....rail on me if you
want

I think Kurt is selfish.
I have not heard him apologize to all those people

I'm sure I will get slammed for that. He just doeesn't exibit the Christian characteristics that he and others like to portray

Peanut Gallery said...

tcob,

The 10% bad behavior claim was indeed true at the outset, but as the process went along the banks surely got wind of what was going on and decided that they could do what they wanted, strength in numbers so to speak.

Keep on railing, that is certainly your right. But on the flip side let those of us who are still commited ( and no I do not mean to a mental hospital)voice our support with out being crapped on. I will certainly do what I can to remain civil.

I think we all know each others position on the matter. No one is going to convince the he/she is right.

Lets try to have an open meaningful dialog to address these issues

tcob247 said...

no prob

They_and_or_Them said...

I can hardly believe that there have been several posts in a row without a lot of name calling and cursing.

I sincerely thank all of you for trying to hold down on the ugly talk.

Maybe now something can actually be gleaned from this blog afterall

Gforce said...

Come now,you rich people(banksters,and everyone else who defrauds for self-gain), weep aloud for the miseries that are SURELY comong upon YOU....you have heaped together treasure for the last days...LOOK! here are the wages you have withheld BY FRAUD(IRS,SS,FICA,mortgages, excessive credit card interest,etc.)from the laborers who have reaped your fields, crying out for vengeance; AND THE CRIES OF THE HARVESTERS(righteous)HAVE COME TO THE EARS OF THE LORD OF HOSTS. You(fraudulantly rich) have fattened yourselves for the day of SLAUGHTER. James 5------The wages(money,wealth, etc.)that have been fraudulenty gained are crying out for VENGEANCE and the harvesters(uncompromisingly righteous) are crying out for deliverence. My God hears me and answers my prayers. Praise God---I'm Delivered!!!---YEAH--this is REALLY BIG!!!!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Peace and Harmony Abound !

Peanut Gallery said...

Come on let's all sing

koom by yah.

Have a good weekend everybody

Ace said...

gforce, well said, the endtime transfer of wealth. Wouldn't it be amazing if this was it and we are the first group to reap it!!! As far as Kurt and Scott hiring a law team, I don't think that is a good idea. All lawyers are part of a bar
association. Their first responsibility is to the system not their clients. Those guys who wear the black pajamas and sit in a highchair are just overpaid lawyers who hit the big time. Kurt and Scott could easily be set up to lose by a lawyer who pretends to believe in them but is actually a government plant. Can you imagine the pressure that the international bankers are putting on the courts right now to flatten these guys? Can you imagine the pressure that the court system would put on any lawyer that tried to actually win this case. I believe that if kurt knows the law and knows how to proceed in a trial he will be far better off doing this himself. No one from the government can threaten to kick Kurt out of the bar association. The same is not true for a lawyer. I believe that the only justice left in the American Injustice System is at the top of the federal court system. He can get there by appealing lower court decisions but it is not going to happen quickly. So be prepared for a long haul. I invested four grand in this and I would hate to lose it but if you are the average American you lose that much every two or three years in the casinos and on lottery tickets for which you get nothing in return. So just hang in there as I think this blog will have many pages in it before this is over. Remember this is a state court that they are being crucified in. If they win there be prepared for the feds to pick up the pieces and try them again on federal charges. I think Kurt already knows this. So much for the double jeopardy clause in the constitution. Ace.

Still Believe said...

Peanut,

Did I hear you say...."expound"?

Peanut Gallery said...

Yes you did, and no I am not.
I don't believe fle has a copyright on the word

WillToFight said...

Ace

Good acurate post!

sovern said...

ace you hit it on the head with that post

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