Monday, August 22, 2005

“A Personal Confession “

This Blog is not a Christian page nor dedicated to religious types. I am making a personal confession for the shear purpose of shedding light upon my motives. To many of you I appear to be a man of courage to a few a crook. I am neither. I am a man who believes in a living God whose voice created, is creating, and shall continue to create. When this voice called me to start the Dorean Group I knew instantly I was headed for trouble. The fact that this did not hinder me is where the misinterpretation begins. I am seasoned at hearing His voice and knowing its reliability. But the courage I have to trust it is a gift. You are viewing this man who is being worn as a cloak with the power of expression coming from Him who has put me on. I am honored to be of service to my Master, even if I am stained, torn, tattered, and or destroyed. The battle is not mine nor is the honor I am simply along for the ride. If another cloak is necessary to finish the race I will be retired as faithful and that is all I can ask of my life. I have dreams and suffer and take the brunt of the harsh environment I am walking through but am comforted on the inside by the warmth of Him who possess me. To Him be all glory and honor and praise! Victory for the Mighty! To be continued…

86 comments:

tcob247 said...

uh oh....here we go.
Putting on the aura of invincibility because God has called him to do this. There can be no room for doubters now.
Either you believe in God and Kurt or you don't.
Let's see....where have we heard that before???
Jim Jones
David Koresh
Jim Baker
They were all in communicatin with God and heard his voice too.

I guess right now we are like the children of Israel being led through the desert to the promised land

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southernspoken said...

FOR THESE WORDS ARE NOT MINE, BUT MINE SAITH THE LORD: TO GOD BE THE GLORY! For HE IS MIGHTY. He does not give us the spirit of fear, nor does he allow the devil to shine. For the light of the Holy spirit is brighter than man or he. Yea, thou I walk thru the valley of death I shall fear no evil. Just as he does not give us a spirit of fear nor does he make the walk of light, the walk of life fearful. You see you may say what ever you want, but my children shall have the victory. You my child are looking thru the eyes of man that is why you lash out at my children. You say ugly things to my servant and just as I say in my word, Touch not my anointed one nor do my prophet harm. It is truly an honor to be chosen. The strong are chosen, while the weak try to tear down my servant. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord. My children know my voice, I just pray that those that are saying bad things, soon know me for the time of my return is near. Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

neodemes said...

>>Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

By continuing this pseudo-religious farce of portraying this scammer as 'anointed prophet' YOU DO EXACTLY what Matthew writes about!

oneequalsone said...

HEY YO! KURT, ALL THATS NICE, WHERE IS THE MONEY FROM THE OVERSEAS DEALS! YOU GO AHEAD AND RESIST WHAT PERSISTS AND FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT BUT ALL OF US WOULD MUCH RATHER CLOSE OUR BUSINESS OUT WITH YOU FAIR AND SQUARE. IF YOU SO DESIRE TO GET THE TRUTH OUT, INFILTRATE FROM WITHIN, TAKING IT HEAD ON COME ON DUDE. LETS PONY UP THEN YOU'LL RECIEVE SUPPORT IN SUBSTANCE.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT OUTSIDE YOU TO WAIT FOR OR LISTEN TO; IT IS IN WITHIN YOU AS THE MASTER SPOKE; WITHIN YOU AS YOU.

QUEANNAEAEA; WANT NOT

tcob247 said...

there you have it people, direct from southernspoken.

Quote "Touch not my anointed one nor do my prophet harm"

If you say anything against Kurt or question his motives in any way, you are going against almighty God.

WOW....

That is scary stuff
Is this a cult?
Sure sounds like one

Cast all reasoning at the door.
Kurt is the chosen one

Why?
Because he said he is called by God.

Wake up everyone
spit out the koolaide

Elmer Fudd said...

What is it with all this religious talk? Are you trying to be some kind of martyr? if i spelled that right. Why don't you just tell your clients what they want to hear about there situations and stop jerking them off?

TwinGift94 said...

i think various folks think this is a site for mind elimination instead of mortgage elimination. Wow....now you know why we have all these nuts walking around the internet and on our streets. Pretty scary huh. Relating this effort to such new lows by tcob247 and those like him are pathetic and shows you what can happen to those who have nothing better to do but type at a computer anonymously, spewing hate and wild accusations.

17764me said...

Kurt:

I also agree that this blog shouldn’t be about religion but I do understand conviction to a calling and those damaged individuals need you to be successful in that calling.

I know you feel you have everything under control in your current situation, but most of us would like you out of jail to get this process finished, if possible. We are all waiting to see fulfillment of your dream and calling, pertaining to the Process. You want those who participated in the Process to hang on with you until completion. We have been hanging on by our finger nails. Most of those initially in the process that were told to stop making payments have lost in court, lost their homes, or filed bankruptcy to keep their homes. It is difficult for those people, who wanted to be debt free, to hope and dream of success when most of what they believed in is gone and problems compounded.
It is becoming harder and harder to hang-on as the hopes fade away.

The Brokers and Agents marketed Dorean as an already working process. It was and is not. Now the damaged people seem to be acceptable collateral damage because they MAY get financial settlements in the future. Most would just like to have their lives and homes back. The Brokers and Agents keep encouraging clients of the Dorean imminent success. How many of the brokers and agents have actually experienced the trauma and the devastation of the loss of their homes using this process?

The banks, the BAR and the alphabet groups will always have more money, more influence and more control, whether lawful or unlawful. Even if RIGHT is on your/our side, would you honestly admit to those devastated individuals and families that the earthly opposition is greater than expected and encourage them to seek real legal help or inform them of options to keep their homes?

tcob247 said...

twingift....I think you are talking about the wrong person
Kurt said he is called by God for this and Southernspoken said "touch not the annonited one"

So you are saying I am the crazy one??

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Starfish Prime said...

Not a Christian Blog?? HA! Some of you Christian WACKOS are why I don't get too serious about religion.

WAKE UP!

I have to side with tcob when I say some of you really need some mental help.

Deaf and Blind and Dumb and Born to Follow..what you need is someone strong to guide you...like me....like me...LIKE ME!

tcob247 said...

They_and_or_Them you hit the nail right on the head.

It's getting to be painfully obvious where Kurt is coming from

Gforce said...

Thanks Kurt for your "confession" and the fact that this blog is not "religious". It is our RELATIONSHIP with God that is putting us over the top. Kurt, NEVER ONCE has God EVER thought of you as a loser or defeated. You have committed your ways to Him and "He will make your righteousness shine like the morning dawn and the JUSTICE OF YOUR CAUSE like the noonday sun....the Lord WILL NOT leave you in their power or allow you to be condemned when brought to trial...He will deliver you from the wicked because you trust in Him...the Lord will deliver you and keep you alive..He will NOT deliver you to the will of your enemies....your heart is established and steady, you WILL NOT be afraid while you WAIT to see your desire established upon your adverseries....your righteousness will endure forever and YOU will be exalted in honor...the desire of the wicked will perish and come to nothing...."Ps37,41,112------Now THAT is some pretty good kool-aid.

They_and_or_Them said...

Hey Starfish,

You stated: "Some of you Christian WACKOS are why I don't get too serious about religion."

Well then, I foresee potential trouble in your afterlife.

You also stated: "what you need is someone strong to guide you...like me....like me...LIKE ME!"

Where would you guide us, to a tuna convention?
Something smells fishy.
Like you... Like you... Like you!

I'd have to choose Kurt over you, at least he is saying that he listens God. If you are only relying on your own wisdom then I'll have to pass on traveling with you. (notice I said traveling with; not, being led by or following.)

After reading some of your comments, I'm thinking of changing my name to "WACKO". The way you define it, it would be an honor to be one.

Gforce said...

Those who hesitate and doubt in fear and unbelief, don't even imagine that you will recieve anything from the Lord(all
GOOD things come from God).James1------...he who has a willful and contrary tongue will fall into calamity.Prov17:20--------If a thief is found out, he MUST RESTORE SEVEN TIMES what he stole; he must give the WHOLE substance of his house if necessary to meet his fine.Prov6:31---$1.435 million plus 7X the interest the banksters have stollen plus the penalty for stealing MY freedom and MY country. I recieve it now in Jesus name!!!!!

They_and_or_Them said...

Hey gforce,

Is 7 times $1.435 mil what you are really after?

If so then, I hope you get it in FRN's.

From what I have read, they (FRN's) really have no intrinsic worth or value. They are only as valuable as the trust and confidence of the American people make them. They will most certainly loose most of that if Kurt wins.

Maybe you are hoping that you will be paid in gold and silver coin?

If the bankers took that much from you, where did your original money come from? Or are we still talking about money that was created with the stroke of a pen? Your pen, or their pen, it still doesnt have any real value.

All that being said, I really do hope Kurt wins, but if he does, victory in itself should be enough reward.
As for me: I don't want any of the bankers money.
I'm personally hoping that he wins so that this farce will cease, and so my children may have a better future, not so the bankers will be forced to make more of their worthless fiat money to pay me with something of little or no value.

How many people out there really understand that if Kurt truely wins complete victory, it will mean the collapse of our monetary system that will make the great depression look like a Christmas holiday?
Do you really realize the sacrefices that will have to be made to correct the problems that have taken since 1913 to create?

Do you still hope he wins?
Are you willing to make the sacrefice?
Are you hoping that the bankers will be punished for their wrongdoings so that you can be rewarded?
Do you hope that their money maintains enough value so that you can get ahead of the rest of the population? Or are you hoping that Kurt just wins a small battle and everything except your mortage remains statis quo?
Even if it keeps everyone other than you and your's in slavery?
Are you in this for right vs wrong or for yourself?

My bible says: For the love of money is the root of all evil.

Parapharsing one other little item that I've read; My understanding is that Jesus didn't require or demand that the money-changers be penalized so that he could personally benefit, he just wanted them thrown out because what they were doing was wrong.

Just want out said...

Starfish,

Have you ever talked to a women with out giving your credit card number?

newyorklife said...

They_and_or_Them said....

"How many people out there really understand that if Kurt truely wins complete victory, it will mean the collapse of our monetary system that will make the great depression look like a Christmas holiday?"

If Kurt starts to build some momentum in this battle, there's no way the system will collapse. One of two things will happen...

1. Kurt will get paid off to shut the doors or

2. Kurt will be forced to shut the doors, because he will have taken a bullet to the head in an unexplained event.

Starfish Prime said...

Just want out,

I've gotten more action than you've ever dreamed of you little-dick crackpot... go fuck yourself (AGAIN)

They and or is was always fuck them,

Trouble in my afterlife??? Could it be I said WACKO as in "taking the Bible out of context..??" hmm....

Go fuck yourself sheeple.

Forgive me Lord..it was just a slip of the tongue.

Starfish Prime said...

Putting on the aura of invincibility because God has called him to do this. There can be no room for doubters now.

Putting on the aura of invincibility because God has called him to do this. There can be no room for doubters now.

Putting on the aura of invincibility because God has called him to do this. There can be no room for doubters now.

Putting on the aura of invincibility because God has called him to do this. There can be no room for doubters now.

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damac49 said...

Kurt,
I will make this short and sweat. I'm refinancing and need "trustee signature"
damac49

Starfish Prime said...

Born to follow...


"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, because the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad.

The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them more easy victims of a big lie than a small one, because they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell big ones.

Such a form of lying would never enter their heads. They would never credit others with the possibility of such great impudence as the complete reversal of facts. Even explanations would long leave them in doubt and hesitation, and any trifling reason would dispose them to accept a thing as true.

Something therefore always remains and sticks from the most imprudent of lies, a fact which all bodies and individuals concerned in the art of lying in this world know only too well, and therefore they stop at nothing to achieve this end."

- Adolf Hitler writing in his book Mein Kampf

Starfish Prime said...

Who is in posession of Nuclear Weapons?
The amount of weapons posessed by these countries is more than enough to destroy the world (all the major cities, and cause a nuclear winter) many times over.

The following is a list of nations that have admitted the possession of nuclear weapons, and the approximate number of warheads under their control. This list is informally known in global politics as the "Nuclear Club".

* United States - 10,640
* Russia - 8,600
* People's Republic of China - 400
* France - 350
* United Kingdom - 200
* India - 60-90
* Pakistan - 24-48

From a high of 65,000 weapons in 1985, there were about 40,000 nuclear weapons in the world in 2002-2003.

Countries believed to have or sometimes suspected of having at least one unconfirmed nuclear weapon currently, or at some point in history, or research programs with a realistic chance of producing a nuclear weapon in the near future:

* Israel - It is questionable whether Israel should be classed as a "suspected state" at this point. Israel is not a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and refuses to officially admit or deny having a nuclear arsenal, or to having developed nuclear weapons, or even to having a nuclear weapons program. Although former Prime Minister Israel - It is questionable whether Israel should be classed as a "suspected state" at this point. Israel is not a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation TreatyShimon Peres unofficially acknowledged this last fact in the summer of 1998, extensive information about this program in Dimona was disclosed by physician Mordechai Vanunu in 1986, and imagery analysts can identify weapon bunkers, mobile missile launchers, and launch sites in satellite photographs. It is clear though that Israel can deploy or employ nuclear weapons at will, and it is suspected to possess nuclear weapons by the International Atomic Energy Agency. According to the National Resources Defense Council and the Federation of American Scientists, they may possess 100-200 weapons. However until it admits to having an actual stockpile of weapons, it will be retained on the "suspect" list for the present time. (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/index.html)
* Iran - Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and says its interest in nuclear technology, including enrichment, was for civilian purposes only, but the CIA claims this to be a cover for a nuclear weapons program. (http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_iran_nch.html) (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/nuke/index.html) The Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi stated on the intentions of his country's nuclear ambitions: "Iran has a high technical capability and has to be recognized by the international community as a member of the nuclear club. This is an irreversible path." (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122526,00.html)
* North Korea - On January 10, 2003 North Korea withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Allegedly they have since announced their possession of several nuclear weapons to US diplomats.
* Ukraine - signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Inherited about 5,000 nuclear weapons when it became independent in 1991. It transferred all of these to Russia by 1996. (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/ukraine/) However recent news has surfaced that due to a clerical error, Ukraine may still possess several hundred warheads which were not accounted for in the armaments repatriation move 14 years ago. In any case, even if Ukraine does possess these weapons, they are technically missing and not in a deployed state or any part of Ukraine's defense posture. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/3568139.stm)
* Australia - From 1950 to the early 1970s Australia first attempted to gain access to British nuclear technology, then investigated a fully indigenous nuclear program on a number of occasions, going so far as to plan and begin clearing a site for a plutonium-producting nuclear reactor at Jarvis Bay in 1969, but abandoned its efforts at that time. Australia has large indigenous supplies of uranium. Currently Australia's uranium exports policy prevents export for military purposes, but there have been allegations about Australian uranium ending up in nuclear weapons. Curiously for an industrialized nation that is also a major uranium supplier, Australia has no nuclear power plants. There are however, several nuclear reactors in Australia that produce radioactive materials mainly for medical purposes. Australia has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and is now one of the strongest supporters of anti-profileration efforts. However in recent years several illicit internal informants within the ADF have leaked rumours that Australia received a small number of warheads from allies (most probably the United States) during the high-risk tension with Indonesia while intervening in East Timor. (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/documentaries/stories/s650355.htm)

(Info from wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_nuclear_weapons )

That's a lotta weapons!
So, why does everyone need these instruments of destruction?
The race to harness the power of the atom started in the World War II. The Manhattan Project, or more fully, the Manhattan Engineering District Project - was an effort during World War II to develop the first nuclear weapons by the United States with assistance from the United Kingdom and Canada. Both German and Allied scientists were desperate to develop the bomb, knowing that if the other side developed one first the war would be over - in a flash. Of course the US was successful in developing the technology first and used it to force Japan to surrender - but their tactical superiority all changed when Russia announced in 1949 that they too had deveolped the weapons.

The two countires began to stockpile their nuclear weapons, in an effort to be more prepared than the other - should one of them attack. Russia and America were locked in an arms race of the worst kind, both frantically producing thousands of nuclear based weapons and warheads. However, it was only America that pursued the policy of MAD - mutually assured destruction. This meant - and still does mean - allowing every American citizen to be held hostage by Russia. It means our only defence to a nuclear attack is one of our own, which does not save the lives of any of the hundreds of millions of people that would die in the strike. Isn't that some wonderful news? Of course we're 'buddies' with Russian now, so we don't have to imminently fear them like through the 1950's through the middle 1980's.
Who would want to use a weapon of this nature?
Given that if either side of a massive super power country like the US or Russia were to use a weapon of this nature, the other would assuredly retaliate by launching their arsenal causing mutual destruction. This would mean hundreds of millions of casualties - depending on who else got involved. So what incentive do others have to try to acquire them? Terrorists and extremists who could potentially use them to either blackmail or detonate - to get the attention they demand.

Many terrorists would dream of creating such a weapon, but it would be cheaper and more effective to get ready made devices from the former USSR. The greatest risk from these could be the 'suitcase bombs' - nuclear weapons the size of briefcases, which a terrorist could simply walk into a city, a building, or a neighborhood with. The effects of such an attack would be terrifying.

Elmer Fudd said...

damac49 said...
Kurt,
I will make this short and sweat. I'm refinancing and need "trustee signature"
damac49

LoL You'll be waiting for a very long time...

Elmer Fudd said...

damac49 said...
Kurt,
I will make this short and sweat. I'm refinancing and need "trustee signature"
damac49

LoL You'll be waiting for a very long time...

Elmer Fudd said...

damac49 said...
Kurt,
I will make this short and sweat. I'm refinancing and need "trustee signature"
damac49

LoL You'll be waiting for a very long time...

Gforce said...

The righteous know what to do with the wealth that is being turned over to them. There is a very short time left to do what needs to be and and will be done. ----LIVE FREE OR DIE---Nathan Hale(motto on New Hampshire license plates)

nofollowers said...

I love reading what a bunch of suckers some of you people are with your phony religious crap. If God won't let Kurt down then why did he go to jail for 5 years 8 months for something he didn't do? Why would God let an innocent man spend all that time in jail? To me it seems that this God that alot of you praise doesn't give a crap about any of you. If someone I believed in let me hang out to dry like that, I wouldn't call him a friend and certainly would not listen to what he told me to do. It makes me want to punch Kurt,Scott, Dr. Fred, Farrell and Guy in the fucking face for being the biggest bunch of bullshit artists out there. You tell people to stop making there payments and then, " oh wait, now you have to make them, and too bad if you can't come up with six months of payments. Don't worry, we have your back and we'll take care of it. BULLSHIT you will. Doreans customer service department and legal department won't even return your call let alone show up in court. Why didn't Kurt or Scott pay peoples back payments when it was THEM who told people it was okay to stop making them. You know why, because they are scum. They had plenty of money in their accounts. They should have given those people their $3000 back that they paid to sign up so they would not lose their house. Kurt,Scott,Farrell,Dr. Fred, Guy... You guys know the truth of what is going on and you don't have the balls to be a men and admit that you lied to people and did not do what you keep saying tha you are going to do on those stupid weekly conference calls. Hey,what go's around comes around BITCHES

burnedinfla said...

Starfish Prime,
Tell me what the fuck does nuclear wepons have to do with crooked ass Scott and crooked ass Kurt? Why are you posting this shit on this site?

tcob247 said...

starfish why are you copying and pasting here again?
Oh, I know, Nobody is over in your own site reading your Blogs.
Please don't post them here. They are irrelevant.

Nofollowers.....you are exactly right.

Starfish Prime said...

HAHAHAHAHA...

KYHOOYA said...

Well it must be time to clock -in for work??? it's good to see how everyone these day's gives a real day's work for what they put on there time card no wo-under this country is going down hill ( just a bunch of lazy ass con's and lofers TTGYHOOYA there some addvise for you! "And to all a good... Ah.... what's the use,

YOU CAN ALL FUCK OFF !!
P.S TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: I just read a story on the web about
i.d. theft were a couple went out of town for a few days when they reurned home the locks were changed and when they knocked on the door the person who living there eaid that he bought the place from ( john doe ) so the went to the county recordeds office and there was a deed were the wife had signed over the house to (john doe ) forgery but it took some time for them to prove the house was there the moral to the story is that if some one who owned the house were to do the samething who would be out there to come and knock on the door ( at least know one any time (jail time)that is soon... hope that helps. AND NOW ALL OF YOU CAN FUCK OFF...

tcob247 said...

Way to put in a good days work there Kspewya.
Your post didnt make much sense.
By the way, when you run your own business, you don't have a time card. I do what I want, when I want. Cause I'm the boss.
Not everybody punches a time card.
Please enter the 21st century

tcob247 said...

Kspewya said..."the moral to the story is that if some one who owned the house were to do the samething who would be out there to come and knock on the door ( at least know one any time (jail time)that is soon... hope that helps."

Can someone please translate that for me? What dialect is that?
LOLOLOL

They_and_or_Them said...

tcob 247 said ... "Can someone please translate that for me? What dialect is that?"

Sounds like a combination of backwoods Kentucky with a mixture of brainwashed Marine.

I think he is suggesting that if the troubled homeowners were to forge some documents at the courthouse then the trustee Kurt (because he is in jail) would not be able to say anything about the fraud for a long while.

Why didn't he just suggest that the people in need should dig their graves a little deeper?

Sounds like another crackpot to me.

And The Saga Continues ...

Watergod said...

Kurt

You are kidding me. I am a Christian man. I have had my share of spiritual experiences. But using your spirituality to divert from all the hell you are putting people through is beyond comprehension.

It is painfully clear that you are in the depths of denial...brought on by deep depression and despair. Your mind seems to be unable to grasp the concept that you have SCREWED over a TON of people.

The level of denial is UNBELIEVEABLE. WAKE UP!

WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your cause was NOT our cause.

Fine fine...continue fighting against the system. But have the balls to ADMIT that HOW you went about this was the WORST process possible. Ask FORGIVENESS to those you have hurt. THIS is true Christian love for others. ACKNOWLEDGE when you have hurt them...and ask that THEY forgive you.

WAKE UP!

I seriously believe you and Scott are incapable of this realization. You are so engaged in your own reality...the fact that you have left countless lives in shambles just doesn't compute.

The only people that are incapable of this kind of empathy are sociopaths.

It is all becoming more clear with each post.

Unbelieveable.

truthtooth said...

Kurt:

This is so handy. Screw everyone, take their money, mess everything up, get caught, go to jail, have to stop screwing more people out of money then take no responsibility for it.

You are moving the blame for your actions to God.

God should be upset about your scam in the first place, as well as you hiding this scam behind a religious crusade. He will not be happy about you compairing your self to his son Jesus. But I would think that it would be just about the last straw to now bow out as a third party pawn to what God had you do with this scam.

God is merciful, I think that we are all betting on that.

down but not out said...

Up until the last few post of Kurt's , I was willing to give the bennefit of a doubt to what those involved with TDG were saying.

It now seens quite evident that the is quite a bit of delusional thinking going on.

We are being told to carry on with the fight on our own, when it is surely something most of us can not do either physically or emotionally. ( Of course, if you send in $79.95 you can have the DVD set that tells you how to go on. By my estimation for the $4,500.00 I already spent, I should get about 56 copies free of charge)

I for one am no longer going to invest anymore time on this blog, or this process. I do not have the emotional capacity to keep going.

For those of you who are waiting for the big settlement payoff to come, don't hold your breath, you'll turn blue and die.

Good bye to all, and I hope you can recover from this.

P.S. Please no need for I told you so's from the usual suspect.

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Elmer Fudd said...

down but not out said...
Up until the last few post of Kurt's , I was willing to give the bennefit of a doubt to what those involved with TDG were saying.

It now seens quite evident that the is quite a bit of delusional thinking going on.

We are being told to carry on with the fight on our own, when it is surely something most of us can not do either physically or emotionally. ( Of course, if you send in $79.95 you can have the DVD set that tells you how to go on. By my estimation for the $4,500.00 I already spent, I should get about 56 copies free of charge)

I for one am no longer going to invest anymore time on this blog, or this process. I do not have the emotional capacity to keep going.

For those of you who are waiting for the big settlement payoff to come, don't hold your breath, you'll turn blue and die.

Good bye to all, and I hope you can recover from this.

P.S. Please no need for I told you so's from the usual suspect.

We'll it's about time you see the light there bro. They got soime balls charging 79 bucks for something people paid in advance for! Fucking idiots and then they try the religious act and dupe people that way. If that's the Case hey all you dorean fanatics i have a bridge i want to sell you cheap 59.95 and you get a quick claim deed with that too...:P

truthtooth said...

down but not out:

This is not an, "I told you so.." This is a thank you for letting us nay sayers possibly get through to others that these scammers continue to try and take.

I am sorry that you got taken and I wish you luck in getting your life back.

All: Take the advice of DBNO and run from these crooks.

It is interesting how the DG supporters have fled the site once the truth of this scam became more exposed from the victims posts.

tcob247 said...

AHHHHHHHHHH....the lights are starting to come on and the veil is being lifted.

Not quite so many supporters out there now as there used to be..

I'm wonderig how much longer this blog will last. Will Kurt keep preaching to a dwindling congregation who no longer throws their offering in the plate

How much longer will Guy and Farrel be willing to keep up the charade for their comrade in Jail??

Looks like Kurt went all - in with his 2/7 off suit and came up against a pair of Aces. ( I know how Kurt loves to relate his fight to Poker)

Elmer Fudd said...

You know what no more conference calls either. We'll isn't that good news? When are the feds gonna get Farrel and Guy? Hmmm Maybe soon? Travis got out in the nick of time smart man i say. We'll Dorean supporters i feel really bad for you all and hope and pray you all come out of this ok too. Dr Fred you also better get ready for your accomodations in the pen. But i hear you have already been there with your son before so you know the ropes!!

They_and_or_Them said...

truetooth said ...
"It is interesting how the DG supporters have fled the site once the truth of this scam became more exposed from the victims posts."

FYI, I haven't fled anywhere. Although some of my comments may have been misconstrued as non-supportive, I do support the efforts of TDG to make a change in the system.
Whether or not a scam has been perpetrated is yet to be seen.
There is still room for debate on that subject.
What did you expect would happen to the principles of TDG?
Would you trade places with Kurt?
Anyone that went into the process had one of three motives:

1: In financial peril and had to do something or loose their home.

2: Looking to get something for near nothing.

3: Trying to change a currupt and immoral system for the better.

Fighting the system no matter what the motive could never be easy.

Someone with the 1st motive only had the choice between filing bankrupcy and hiring TDG. DAH, that's a no brainer. With nothing to loose you grab at straws or anything else to avert bankrupcy.

Someone with the 2nd motive deserves whatever trouble they have recieved out of this process.

Someone with the 3rd motive may still have a glimmer of hope. No matter what the nay-sayers say.

If by some circumstance, Kurt wins out and gets out of jail and continues on with his efforts, The so-called victims will no longer be victims, will they?

I have questioned Kurt's tactics not his intent.

Therefore be it known from this day forward that: "They_and_or_ Them" is a DG supporter.

If you don't like it blame "Them", "They" did it.

Come one come all for debate of your choosing.

I love an underdog.

truthtooth said...

they or them:

The second motive is waht was sold to the victims.

The third motive was what was being sold when the shit hit the fan.

Every sales site promoted #2 and that is what everyone got.

If you still support this you are either a fool, crook or both.

They_and_or_Them said...

I restate:

Someone with the 2nd motive deserves whatever trouble they have recieved out of this process.

signed a crooked fool

Name calling will get you no where.

truthtooth said...

They_and_or_Them:

My point exactly. Your saying that everyone that fell for the sales pitch of these con-men deserve what they got.

You know very well that no one gave DG any money to support the noble cause.

They_and_or_Them said...

truthtooth,

Am I hearing you correctly?

Are you stating that there is a noble cause in this mess?

newyorklife said...

Elmer Fudd said...

By my estimation for the $4,500.00 I already spent, I should get about 56 copies free of charge)


Fudge-packer:

You posted this under your wrong user id you fucking idiot! You were suppose to post this under tcob, dumb-fuck. You've stated in the past that you are not a client, but now you spent $4500? You are an idiot you dumb-fuck. Learn to post under the correct user id in the future, moron.

newyorklife said...

Elmer Fudd said...

...i smart enough to know not to get hoodwinked into this bullshit scam from TDG and have to listen to you duck all these questions being asked. You should run for office you'd fit right in!


See "The Jester's Court" for this quote from Fudge-packer in its entirety!

Elmer Fudd/tcob247/nofollowers

They_and_or_Them said...

LOL

There is Life in New York!

But, I'm still greatly offended and appauled by the vulgar and inappropreate language

newyorklife said...

Sorry, but I need to make sure multiple personality disorder understands the language, and keeping it clean would not accomplish that if you look at his writings.

See, I kept it clean responding to you!

TwinGift94 said...

You naysayers are so full of it that your eyes must be turning brown. Its pretty boring to read continuous posts by sorry ass people like you. You want to continually bash people and tell them they must be stupid or an idiot to be in the DG process. Why even post here if its just to trash the process and the clients. Just a complete waste of time but I guess you don't have anything else to do. Go start your own blog and trash yourselves. You're great at that so go have some fun somewhere else with your own kind. So all of you (and you know who you are) now run along and start your own playground. Bye Bye and have fun.

They_and_or_Them said...

Hey twingift94,

When was the last time someone said something really constructive?

You could start, who knows where it could/would go from there?

newyorklife said...

Fudge-packer/tcob-spit/......../..........

You are definitely a psycho. We have now proven that you are the same person which brings us to the medical problem you have.

Medically speaking; they say that you are crazy if you talk to yourself and also answer.

Well, you have been carrying on a conversation with yourself for weeks now, which proves medically that you are a crazy bastard.

Prognosis: Seek immediate medical attention from a recognized and licensed therapist. Quacks won't do, as you are enough of a quack yourself!

Elmer Fudd said...

newyorklife said...
Elmer Fudd said...

By my estimation for the $4,500.00 I already spent, I should get about 56 copies free of charge)

Fudge-packer:

You posted this under your wrong user id you fucking idiot! You were suppose to post this under tcob, dumb-fuck. You've stated in the past that you are not a client, but now you spent $4500? You are an idiot you dumb-fuck. Learn to post under the correct user id in the future, moron.

LOL You think i'm Tcob you stupid Ignorant Dummy Lmao..You're really grasping at straws are you Guy...I would never spend 4,500 on a hairbrain scheme, so keep on dreaming that you have my money idiot. Keep trying to devert all the crap away from you and Dorean in order to keep hustling these innocent people. Did i hit a soft spot cause your next to go to jail? Make sure when you bend over for the soap it's away from population FOOL!! :P

Elmer Fudd said...

We'll see who's fudge will be packed!!! TO BE CONTINUED!! LOL

newyorklife said...

Nice try, you're busted, dick-wad

They_and_or_Them said...

You guys know that there are alot of people reading this blog that could use some constructive discussion.
Try to keep the personal stuff out of it ... Please

Looks to me like most people are wanting to jump ship because the "Feds" are involved.

I guess we are now living in a state in which you are guilty until proven innocent?

The Bureaucrates, Politicians and Law Enforcement are nipping this process in the bud. And their method is to defeat from within.

Seems all they had to do was lock up a few people and everyone is now running scared.

Does anyone out there other than me think that the noble portion of the process still has merit?

If so; voice your opinion, If not...
go find another blog because you're not helping anyone by name calling and constant bickering.

These people really need help and support, Why not try to give them some constructive advise for a change?

Elmer Fudd said...

newyorklife said...
Nice try, you're busted, dick-wad

Guy's just mad cause i hit a sfot spot. Wait till he goes to jail oooofff that's gonna hurt more..Hey i have a question though if and when you get busted with all the other idiots me thinks you lose your pension right? LOL Better sell alot of vitamins copper. Keep trying to divert cause you learned from the best "Kurt & Scott".

Elmer Fudd said...

Better change your name instead of New York Life to Hard knock life..LOL Bye Bye

newyorklife said...

Keep dreamin' if you think I'm Guy psycho!

This is your way of trying to deflect the fact that you got busted for the lying piece of shit you are.

BTW, I'm starting to think you like the "fudge-pucker" think with all of the references you make to it you kinky little anal devil, you. :)

Elmer Fudd said...

Hey i guess time will tell opps No pun intended there..But we shall see. And when you fall i will be there with a big grin on my face :) Yours Truly Psycho P.S What Vitamins do you have on sale this week? Anything with superhuman strength ah forget maybe you can use those to bust outta the can.

Starfish Prime said...
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tcob247 said...

starfish....dont hold your breath
NYLife....you are wrong
Dorean supporters.....keep ignoring the man behind the curtain.You'll get what you deserve if you don't ignore the warning signs.
By the way.....I was a client. Shelled out $4,500, was lucky enough to get my quit claim back a few weeks ago

Elmer Fudd said...

Hey Tcob maybe yo should get that DvD box set for free eh? lol Guy's alwayls wrong.

newyorklife said...

Fudd/cob/et al....

Who's on first?

Elmer Fudd said...

Hey Guy if this process is sooooooo great why are you still renting? If i was you i would of bought up half of new York already, but you still rent? Don't get it care to explain?

newyorklife said...

Maybe if I were Guy, I'd give it a whirl, dick-wad.

Guy's too busy spending your $4500 bucks to come on this board, hehe!

Elmer Fudd said...

We'll your right about U spending all that money, but none of it is mine trust me...I rather blow it on booze and broads then to give it up to scammers oh wait broads there scammers too but i have fun with them. :)

Starfish Prime said...

Farrel, why are you so worried about me and what I post? My site gererates ZERO traffic and you still complain. What post are you referring to that I posted on my blog that a rep had sent to me? I CAN'T FIND IT. Uh..my blog is http://freedomforyou.blogspot.com

And I CANNOT REMOVE PAST POSTS ON THIS BLOG..ONLY KURT CAN DO THAT.

Calm down LADY!

WillToFight said...

Blowfish/Toothdecay/tacobell/elmerfudgestickupyourass.

Why do you need to be here. You need be here!

Blowfish and his pompus flunky self, just thinks he should have started the process!

He is jealous!

ToothDecayNoseGrowingeveryminute!

Blockhead!

WillToFight said...

BlowFishtheusedasswhip, you really are a plant arn't you?

You've suckered old Tacobell in as well huh?

Toothdecaybyusingdirtydrawlstofloss, flunkys the lot of you!!!!!

Simple Flunkys

WillToFight said...

Here! Here! Then_They_and_Them, I know it has merit!

Know question about it! If the Feds and our so-called Justice system would allow the "Payday Loan" scam and the "Reverse Mortgage" scam and the "Interest only Loan" scam, and all the other Scams to rob the poor to feed the fat cats schemes to continue.

I KNOW WHOSE SIDE I WANT TO BE ON!

Brave Heart! Fight the Good Fight!

We know who the fraud is!

Starfish Prime said...

Willtofight,

If you let the bankers confuse you into thinking that payday loans are "evil" then where or who will you turn to when you get denied credit everywhere else and need money... then you get SCAMMED ... you starve and die. (Or move back in with your Mom)

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