Thursday, October 27, 2005

Maybe I'm a Dreamer

I have a hope that two men with courage can face down the full frontal assault of a government that has lost its identity and is conflicted. Have men been crushed by this enemy before? Absolutely! The fear of this to me is not a justification to forego effort. In my dreams, America is not the domain of tyrants but a place where the joys of liberty and the honor of integrity are gifts in the possession of every man. Equality is not a social disease of calibrated assets but of nature and right. Where men who are not the giver or gifts, the makers of law, or the creators of their peers respect God’s distribution. Where the government of man is extended out into a collective representative government for man. Who is selling this tyrant who makes more burdensome regulations than itself can keep and selectively prosecute any who dare question its impure motive. Apathy of the masses who know more about baseball stats or television characters than economics, legacy, contracts, their neighbor, law is a tool engineered by your masters. Will the newest pair of Jordans help you outrun the poverty they have planned for you? I think not. Can a dream be real or is the fraud only disguising the reality that the dream was design. I have but one life to test this with but no tyrant will find me complacent when he tries to sell his wares of theft to me. As a man or as a movement I stand on truth.

47 comments:

Solvo said...

Equality under the law is PARAMOUNT!

Elmer Fudd said...

Yada Yada Yada...Rant Rant Rant. Hey Clueless did your Dad stop Raping you yet?

Peanut Gallery said...

We appreciate the sacrifices you two have made, Godspeed

Ace said...

Speaking of Yada, yada, yada, whatever happened to Clueless? He hasn't been around for a long time.

Elmer Fudd said...

Ace said...
Speaking of Yada, yada, yada, whatever happened to Clueless? He hasn't been around for a long time.
He's Prob all tied up....:P

son of a prophet said...

Senators Plan Push
To End Income Tax



Lawmakers looking to replace current code with
flat-rate levy on business transactions.
WorldNetDaily.com
10-27-5

A South Carolina senator dissatisfied with the results of a Bush advisory panel's recommendations on tax reform is set to introduce a bill to abolish federal income tax in favor of a levy on business transactions.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., told the New York Sun he would put his plan before the Senate tomorrow. The proposal calls for an end to all personal income taxes and the attendant bevy of related taxes, deductions and exemptions, including the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax. The plan would eliminate the need for Americans to file income tax returns.

The president's panel, led by former Sens. Connie Mack and John Breaux, issued two proposals to reform parts of the tax code, but it didn't go far enough for many tax-reform activists.

DeMint told the paper the recommendations were "not the real reform we need."

"With the panel endorsing small changes," DeMint added, "I felt it necessary to get my plan for comprehensive reform out as quickly as possible."

According to the Sun report, the DeMint plan, which is co-sponsored by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., includes an 8.5 percent federal retail sales tax on all new goods and services. Corporate income taxes would be replaced by an 8.5 percent business transfer tax charged during purchases of supplies or equipment.

Senate staff members tell the paper the 8.5 percent figure had been determined after consultation with economists to assure the proposal would remain revenue-neutral.

Under the plan, every American living below the federal poverty level would get a rebate for 8.5 percent of poverty-level income which, for a family of four, is about $19,000 a year, the paper reported.

"There is a growing urgency and consensus that the tax code is killing our ability to compete in the global economy," DeMint is quoted as saying. "It's as if we have huge signs on our beaches saying, 'Take Your Business Somewhere Else!'

"Tax reform has never been more relevant."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?

Clueless Fudd said...

Ace said...
whatever happened to Clueless? He hasn't been around for a long time.

if you consider two topics ago a long time, your spouse must have a tracking device on you if you go to the store or something, huh?

gr8pe ape, gr8pe ape

Starfish Prime said...

Son of a Prophet,

What an article!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Oh My! Our past is coming back to haunt us!


http://wildcardzmarketing.com/neo_sucks/viewtopic.php?p=410#410

Ace said...

Clueless, You might be right there, my "Spouse" weighs 165 pounds, walks on four legs, and has a head that's the size of a basket ball. His tracking device is on the end of his face and it will alert on a pound of liverwurst from a distance of a half mile. And he's still making mortgage payments every month. He's also pulling hard for Kurt as $963.36 per month will but a heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllll of a lot of liverwurst. ARF, ARF!!!!

Ace said...

Son Of A Profit, Of course the federal vampires are trying to change the tax system. Over half the people in this country have told the IRS to take their income tax and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Hang in there, The United States of Rockefeller and Rothschild has almost spent itself to death. I think that if North Carolina secedes from the union again the south will win the war this time!

Clueless Fudd said...

Ace said...
Clueless, You might be right there, my "Spouse" weighs 165 pounds, walks on four legs, and has a head that's the size of a basket ball. His tracking device is on the end of his face and it will alert on a pound of liverwurst from a distance of a half mile. And he's still making mortgage payments every month. He's also pulling hard for Kurt as $963.36 per month will but a heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllll of a lot of liverwurst. ARF, ARF!!!!

ace, i feel you on that one, and speaking of "pulling hard", "elmer" needs to quit pulling hard on himself, that's why he is a premo!

tcob247 said...

October 28, 2005:
Dear Dorean Clients:

This communiqué is sent in hopes that many of you can and will be informed of some impending events. Over the passed months I have received calls and various types of communications with clients stating that they did not know where to go to get updates of information concerning if and when the process was going forward. Because of the lack of communications many of you have succumbed to innuendo, rumors, falsehoods, and just plain lies. This writing is an attempt to get you back in the loop and also give you both methods, opportunities, and sources to get your questions asked and answered.
During the time that both Scott and Kurt have been in jail they have had resources working on their behalf continually on the completion of the mortgage challenge that you as clients entered into and have paid for. That process will now be coming to a close very shortly, and it is the plan to make all that are in the client database whole. If you have had loss those matters shall be addressed, and you shall be well compensated both with compensatory and punitive damages taken into consideration. Those numbers still remain in negotiations, but are eminent.
Many of you have been at a loss with regard to getting some of your immediate housekeeping needs met. As an example Quitclaim Deeds, securing copies of your trust documents, and general information in handling and understanding the details of your presentment. The DVD’s are now complete and ready to be sent out. They cover in a very concise and professional manner all the components that make up what and how your mortgage challenge works. Just the education value alone will comfort you knowing what, and how the process works on your behalf. If that is the case you can either call or write me and I can and will show you how to get your Quitclaim Deeds conveyed and reconveyed, and can have a copy of your trust document published and sent to you. I can also tell you how to order the DVD’s if you want them. Likewise you are welcome to contact me as I am available to answer trust questions at all times and overseeing you with its operation as an estate and asset preservation tool.
As we now come down the stretch there are a few things with regard to your accountability concerning your affairs, and those are as follows…
Check the Blog often (http://thedoreangroup.blogspot.com) it is there that you shall receive pertinent updates and important information directly from Kurt. A website is nearly completed that will appear on the Blog and shall provide you with a downloadable Claims Form, which you will be required to fill out and submit for the calculation of you settlement. If you are receiving any of these communiqué’s second hand you should contact the sender of this epistle and get on the mailing list. When communicating with me it will serve you better to remember I am but a mitigator and messenger, and may not have all the answers, but in general can direct you to where the answers may be. When it comes to the trust I do have all the answers and will entertain any question at anytime.
For those of you that know that both Kurt and Scott have remained faithful to the battle they’ve choose to take on at great personal loss and inconvenience, and for the many that communicated their thoughts and prayers for them. Please let me proffer my heart-felt thanks it has been the prayers of the faithful that have on many occasions sustain them while their enemies sought their demise.

Blessings,

Dr. H. Fred Johnson

Peanut Gallery said...

tcob,

What,no snyde,snotnose remarks?
That is so out of character for you. Are going to try to make nice now so you can get your slice of the pie?

Peanut Gallery said...

Where are ye elmer, utah, tcob,neo,jrb ?

Lost for words are we?

tcob247 said...

Do you have anything intelligent to say?

Guess not

I just posted that for info

Why do you want me to make a comment?
I get yelled at for being negative and then when I'm not you are dissapointed?
HA

Youre an idiot penisless gallery

Peanut Gallery said...

tcob said,
Do you have anything intelligent to say?

Youre an idiot penisless gallery


Now THAT is intelligent, no?

dgwondering said...

"Dr. Fred" said: That process will now be coming to a close very shortly, and it is the plan to make all that are in the client database whole. If you have had loss those matters shall be addressed, and you shall be well compensated both with compensatory and punitive damages taken into consideration. Those numbers still remain in negotiations, but are eminent

What, the phony collateral estoppel crap again? Another bogus settlement with Fannie story?

It's just another part of the scam people. He's trying to delay you filing a civil suit.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

These are merely words, nothing more, nothing less. According to PartyAssKisser, they are of no consequence, no responsibility, and no accountablity.

If we even think of holding them accountable for these words, we are a bunch of sorry ass, uneducated, stoopid fucking clients who are helpless sheeple. Shame on any of you who think these words have any worth more than the paper they are typed on.

These words mean nothing until the day THEY are held accountable.

partysecured said...

Now you're getting it.

Seen it in Utah said...

Peanut gallery: I am trying to be gentler and kinder. But if you insist, here goes: If you wait long enough for your refund and your damages you will get--nothing! If you go back in the posts from spring--promises of money--to you, to the "select 500", etc. Nothing!

Well, I haven't seen anyone talk about being paid--other than the brokers and wheeler-dealers who gladly took the money of the clients. But money from Dorean (or Kurt, Scott, etc.)--NOTHING!

So please put a really noticeable post on this blog when someone gets money.

Peanut Gallery said...

dgwondering said

It's just another part of the scam people. He's trying to delay you filing a civil suit.

So what is your interest in all of this dg? Were you harmed in any way by the Dorean Group? If so why don't you get that little ol' lawsuit a rollin yourself?
I know you just want to see justice right? Hey start your own "Let's File Suit Against Dorean" blog ,and see how many interested parties you get signed up.
Otherwise go out and stop the neighborhood bully from stealing milk money.

partysecured said...

Nicely put peanut

tcob247 said...

hey peanutty

let me know when you get paid

Elmer Fudd said...

Peanut Gallery said...
Where are ye elmer, utah, tcob,neo,jrb ?

Lost for words are we?

3:03 PM

Hey Peanuthead your still full of shit and so's your Pal Clueless...There you happy. Opps i forgot So called Dr. Fred too.

whataboutjere said...

dgwondering said...
...What, the phony collateral estoppel crap again? Another bogus settlement with Fannie story? It\'s just another part of the scam people. He\'s trying to delay you filing a civil suit.

Curious dgwondering, why, if anyone wants to pursue a civil suit against them, would they wait? I don\'t understand how you are equating them stalling to someone filing a civil suit?

mogel said...

Seen It in Utah said: "I am trying to be gentler and kinder. But if you insist, here goes: If you wait long enough for your refund and your damages you will get--nothing! If you go back in the posts from spring--promises of money--to you, to the "select 500", etc. Nothing!"

Makes me wonder how long you have been trying to be gentler & kinder?
Maybe since Spring 2005 of this year? Maybe your wife knows?

How long have you been trying to be positive? Maybe since Spring of this year OR BEFORE? Disappointed anyone yet? I guess if people expect change from you, can they also expect NOTHING?

Mogel

neodemes said...

September 23, 2005

Dear Dorean Clients:

It has come to my attention that a few clients have not yet received their trust documents or the indentures. AN IMPROVED TASK, LTD (trust) is the publisher of those documents and has recently acquired full possession of the trust equipment from the Dorean Group. The Trust can now generate the documentation that will allow you to experience the benefits of being in trust and educate you on how best to use the trust as an estate-planning tool. There are five main buttresses that you should keep in mind as you employ the tenants of the trust.
1 Privacy
2 Judgment Proofing
3 Exceptional Tax Pathways
4 Probate Avoidance
5 Certainty of Beneficial Interest

If you would like a copy of your working trust you should fill out the accompanying trust application and send it along with a BLANK postal money order in the amount of one hundred ($100.00USD) to the address below. Your documents will be immediately prepared and you should have them within a week. The information on the application must correspond to the information on the application that you sent to The Dorean Group with regard to Grantors, dates, beneficiaries, and the beneficial units. You may name other trustees along with Kurt and Scott, and if they have already been dismissed for cause then you must name who the subsequent trustee(s) are.

If you have any questions concerning your trust please do not hesitate contacting me, either by return e-mail, or by telephone using the number provided below.

Blessings,

Dr. H. Fred Johnson

125 E. Sunnyoaks Ave. #207 Campbell, CA.95008 USA
408-866-8625 Fax 408-866-8624
drhfred@excite.com

neodemes said...

TOTAL COST OF TRUST: $3000.00 per trust Payable to: An Improved Task Ltd.

Justice7777777 said...

Hint: Broker monies can be gone after under the unbrella of the DG scam (even if it wasn't your broker).

Hurry because once the principals get their 30+, brokers, especially those who were involved in 100k plus damage will be next. Get at the monies before they are obsorbed by legal fees.

Ironically, by losing your house you can get theirs. Very fitting. The monies/assets will be dispatched but it won't cover everyones loss. Your due dilligence now will allow you to partake while resources remain.

Elmer Fudd said...

neodemes said...
September 23, 2005

Dear Dorean Clients:

It has come to my attention that a few clients have not yet received their trust documents or the indentures. AN IMPROVED TASK, LTD (trust) is the publisher of those documents and has recently acquired full possession of the trust equipment from the Dorean Group. The Trust can now generate the documentation that will allow you to experience the benefits of being in trust and educate you on how best to use the trust as an estate-planning tool. There are five main buttresses that you should keep in mind as you employ the tenants of the trust.
1 Privacy
2 Judgment Proofing
3 Exceptional Tax Pathways
4 Probate Avoidance
5 Certainty of Beneficial Interest

If you would like a copy of your working trust you should fill out the accompanying trust application and send it along with a BLANK postal money order in the amount of one hundred ($100.00USD) to the address below. Your documents will be immediately prepared and you should have them within a week. The information on the application must correspond to the information on the application that you sent to The Dorean Group with regard to Grantors, dates, beneficiaries, and the beneficial units. You may name other trustees along with Kurt and Scott, and if they have already been dismissed for cause then you must name who the subsequent trustee(s) are.

If you have any questions concerning your trust please do not hesitate contacting me, either by return e-mail, or by telephone using the number provided below.

Blessings,

Dr. H. Fred Johnson

125 E. Sunnyoaks Ave. #207 Campbell, CA.95008 USA
408-866-8625 Fax 408-866-8624
drhfred@excite.com

8:48 PM

LMAO Like Father Like son...Who ever sends that idiot 100 bucks should be horsewhipped at dawn. Ah sorry Clueless didn't mean to expose you and your father's morning ritual. Hey Dr Fred what's the matter your funds are running low? Time to Rip people off again.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

partysecured said...
\"Now you\'re getting it.\"

There you have it ladies and gentlemen, an admission of guilt. An admission, that clearly spells out the truth behind THEIR motives.

PartyAssKisser, you are doing an excellent job in helping the grand jury to deliver a GUILTY verdict and keep your leader behind bars for the rest of his living days. Please, by all means, keep it up. Apparently you are more of an idiot than you would like your peers to believe.

Oh, and one last thing PartyAssKisser, in case you did not know, your IP has been time stamped and stored. I would be careful if I were you, you can be found. There IS someone out there who knows you and who IS more motivated by the almighty FRN that would sell you out in a heartbeat.

Seen it in Utah said...

Mogel:

You are a very witty guy. You do seem to use personal attacks against others to bolster your own self-image. Consider some alternatives.

son of a prophet said...

An interesting comment by "yeahrighton" said....





"Oh, and one last thing PartyAssKisser, in case you did not know, your IP has been time stamped and stored. I would be careful if I were you, you can be found. There IS someone out there who knows you and who IS more motivated by the almighty FRN that would sell you out in a heartbeat"



The bible said it would/is going to come to this; no one can trust anyone. It is already here.

The govt. is going to use any/all means to break up friendships and trust that people have for one another.

The easiest way to do this is to spread/plant rumors and false information about someone you have previously trusted.

Example: "did you know so and so said this about you?" or "did you know so and so is a federal informant"? etc.

99% of all crimes today are committed by federal/state/local informants trying to stay out of jail by 'working' for law enforcement agencies.

Someone who law enforcement wants to target but have no available means to get are set upon by these informants to bait them into crime. Informants will break in and steal and give proceeds to law enforcement especially when threatened with jail time for previous crimes. LE agents are immune to prosectuoin as they know no will believe a former criminal and also that the criminal can easily be killed if neccessary and no will investigate too deeply as they were already a criminal.

He is right when he said that people will sell out their friends for a buck or two. One cannot trust anyone these days..."let not the left hand know what the right hand is doing...." (or even your wife)

Peace be with you.

mogel said...

Seen It in Utah said: "Mogel:

You are a very witty guy. You do seem to use personal attacks against others to bolster your own self-image. Consider some alternatives."


The issues in the forum shouldn't be taken on a personal level where feelings get hurt & it really isn't about any one person, it's about the truth how the lending process works & seeking reform of a system that is wrong, providing justice & keeping an open mind. It's not about being liked or a popularity contest, or what I think of myself which is only narcisistic, which is quite shallow thinking. Self esteem does not come from what other people think of you & I can't bolster any self esteem through participating in this forum. If you think I don't understand that, then you are sadly mistaken. I would rather be in the minority with the truth, even if it may seem that there are only a few there with me, than being praised by the majority and masses on the wrong side of the truth to bolster something of no worth.

I think you have much more experience than I do in the area of attacking others. I think that was even part of the original point I attempted to make with you. My words which you perceived as attacks, may have even prompted a kinder & gentler man in you, who really knows for sure?

As far as alternatives, maybe keeping an "open mind," might be a good alternative for you.

What would it mean if you were wrong & if people at some point do post success stories of being paid within the next 6 months? I know that question is put in a very postive way & may even be hurtful to your ears & the first reaction is to reject the possibilities of the question by your natural doubt.

I don't get it. Dr. Fred sends out a very positive letter to people to BOLSTER faith with excellent news that says the finish line is near for ALL clients & the response by some is that he doesn't have the best of intentions & is still playing games & is met with contempt & suggestions of lawsuits follow.

Mogel

newyorklife said...

mogel,

maybe that's because kurt is not 100% behind everything that dr. fred is doing these days. did you know that dr. fred condones that phony operation bill julian is fronting with the non-existent letter of credit for $120m and lies about the escrow account status', the 2500 people with free and clear title that are not making payments, that there are no foreclosures, not letting everyone know that bill julian himself is in forclosure, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on.....

maybe that is why, don't you think?

down but not out said...

newyorklife,

So the letter Dr. Fred sent out is a load garbage? No behind the scenes operation regarding the judgements? JUst muddying the waters.

getmeoffthisride said...

All we do is keep waiting and hoping. People are showing their restlessness about the website and refunds and the promises about this and that. If Dr. Fred's letter is nothing but another sham, perhaps people need to stand up and say "enough!". Give Kurt a time limit on putting up that website (regardless of webmasters, there is obviously enough money to get it done, and if there is no webmaster other than Kurt, then it should get done). Say two weeks to pull up the site. If it's not done then Dorean clients take action, class action. It gets tiring of hearing of complaints and yet no one does anything. Why? The only one who has taken action is Aldrich. Good for her, she didn't sit around like a baby and complain. She did something. Now, if you're going to complain, take her lead. Those who are not complaining are doing what they are supposed to be doing, waiting and hoping.

newyorklife said...
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Elmer Fudd said...

getmeoffthisride said...
All we do is keep waiting and hoping. People are showing their restlessness about the website and refunds and the promises about this and that. If Dr. Fred's letter is nothing but another sham, perhaps people need to stand up and say "enough!". Give Kurt a time limit on putting up that website (regardless of webmasters, there is obviously enough money to get it done, and if there is no webmaster other than Kurt, then it should get done). Say two weeks to pull up the site. If it's not done then Dorean clients take action, class action. It gets tiring of hearing of complaints and yet no one does anything. Why? The only one who has taken action is Aldrich. Good for her, she didn't sit around like a baby and complain. She did something. Now, if you're going to complain, take her lead. Those who are not complaining are doing what they are supposed to be doing, waiting and hoping.

Don't you know there won't ever be any website. He's just stringing along all the clients in hope he will be released then bye bye baby he's gone. His father is trying so hard to squeeze out any cash from this, so he can split too. If Kurt had any credit whatsoever he would have already accomplished at least one goal, but he hasn't. So what does that tell ya? Only reason you have people here sticking up for him until the end is cause they know too there NUTS are in a vise by being brokers and their so afraid of going to jail. So i suggest to all clients better start something soon, otherwise he will be on a plane somewhere with a different identity lol maybe even yours..

Clueless Fudd said...

Elmer,

You are a fucking idiot. You are so off in left field, it's borders on psychotic. Go get some help you fucking moron.

Elmer Fudd said...

Clueless Fudd said...
Elmer,

You are a fucking idiot. You are so off in left field, it's borders on psychotic. Go get some help you fucking moron.

Ok broker...Hey clueless we'll see who the fucking moron is, when your dingy ass is sitting in jail. Hey at least some tough inmate will take your father's place in whipping your ass department..Putz

Clueless Fudd said...

ohhh, you got me fuck-face. We'll see who gets the last laugh, ass-wipe.

Elmer Fudd said...

LoL Daddy's little bitch and soon Leroy's....You get passed around more than a marijuana joint at a hippie's party you whore you...

complainers suck said...

Kurt,

It's obvious that you have the means to see what's being posted on this blog, so I have a question that you still have not answered.

You claim that you want honesty of the banks about loans and fannie mae fraud, etc., so if it's true what "newyorklife" is saying about bill julian who is a broker for Dorean and behind the other group marketing this product currently, why don't you do something about it?

I listened to one of their calls myself and they are certainly claiming to have a swiss bond and 2500 free and clear titles, and foreclosures can be stopped, and the rest of the story. So why would you not have a problem is they are blantantly distorting the truth? If you are ok with them intentionally mis-leading people and you have the power to stop them or call them liars at minimum, this makes you no better than they are and is a strike against your credibility, along with your dad's as he spoke to the moderator at the end of the call I listened to.

Please take the time to address this as you took the time to address "tcob247".

Ace said...

How about somebody posting these multi million dollar letters of credit so we can all see them.

Starfish Prime said...

Speak up Kurt. Seriously, you could easily shut people up if you would just come clean here about what is going on and BE SPECIFIC. Also, other people on this blog mentioned that you took the time to address TCOB247 .. so you should definately address this question if you ever hope to appear "genuine".