Friday, November 25, 2005

I Can Only Hope (#2)

If Utah should decide to prosecute it would be my delight. They are at a much worse disadvantage than the feds. They are trying to make my product an insurance product because they don’t understand my bond. Its simple revelation will expose this folly. Secondly, they began their prosecution with a fraud. Not a good start rarely leads to a good finish. Thirdly, I’m certain they were promised some favor for a mere snatch and grab to get us off the streets, to now have them prosecute would spoil their simple role. Now, first a hearing I will not attend will be a dismissal or some other delay until one. I care less where I spend the time. One day, the right day, the evidence will be presented and my enemies will be shamed. The state of that day will have to release me. If Utah dismisses (90% chance) the feds will pick me up soon enough. I don’t think they can restrain their lust to destroy liberty and innocence much longer. I will keep you informed though I am probably the last to know.


Elmer Fudd said...

Kurt reminds me of a prize fighter who is getting the worst beating of his career, and when he gets knocked out and the fights over he tells the news reporters that he had the other fighter right where he wanted him..I think he has a terrible case of what some people may call "Delusions of Grandeur". I give him credit to the faact that he just doesn't give up, but hey pal your beating a dead horse and your in a fight that you just can't win. What you should do is turn your energy for something useful and positive, like helping people from Scam artist. Kurt i know our Government is not perfect actually far from perfect, but hey would you rather be here or maybe somewhere like Uganda where they raped your wife and kids and cut off your arms and legs?

neodemes said...

Don't give up, Kurt.

Keep bloodying THEIR knuckles with YOUR face.


WillToFight said...

I would respond to the suckups, but it is useless? They would allow the destruction of their own if the price was right and in FRNs!

You know what to do Kurt!!!!

To the Good Fight!

Whose afraid of the big bad wolf? Some may want to study the movie "Wizard of Oz while they're at it?

Oh I forget MindlessintheMatrix are just apart of the program!

WillToFight said...

I am convinced that those societies (such as the Native American peoples) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under the European governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, & restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did anywhere. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves & sheep. I do not exaggerate."
- Thomas Jefferson

WillToFight said...

"The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
- Thomas Jefferson

WillToFight said...

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
- Thomas Jefferson

WillToFight said...

"The system of banking we have both equally and ever reprobated. I contemplate it as a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction. I sincerely believe, with you...that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill [chartering the first Bank of the United States] have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution. They are not among the powers specially enumerated."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution - taking from the Federal government their power of borrowing (from privately-owned corporate banks)."
- Thomas Jefferson

"We are undone, my dear sir, if legislation is still permitted which makes our money, much or little, real or imaginary, as the moneyed interests shall choose to make it."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To prevent inquiry is among the worst of evils." --Thomas Holcroft

WillToFight said...

"Borrowers are nearly always ill-spenders, and it is with lent money that all evil is mainly done and all unjust war protracted." - John Ruskin, The Crown of the Wild Olive (1866)

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans...", Pres Bill Clinton, USA Today, Mar 11, '93, Pg 2A.

"Fascism will come to America in the guise of National Security"
--- Jim Garrison, Atty. General of New Orleans)

WillToFight said...

"The government's monetary role is to maintain the integrity of the monetary unit, not participate in fraud."
"Government exists to protect liberty, not to redistribute wealth or to grant special privileges."
"The lives and actions of people are their own responsibility, not the government's."

"There will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears so to speak. Producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
- Aldous Huxley,
Tavistock Group,
California Medical School, 1961 -

WillToFight said...

"... the Federal Reserve and its member banks are not government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the People... for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers... the truth is this: The Fed has usurped the (U.S.) government. It controls everything here (in Congress) and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will."
~ Congressman Louis T. McFadden (remarks to Congress, 1934)

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is the master of all its legislation and commerce."
~ President James Garfield (1880)

"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth... When the President signs this Act, the invisible government by the Money Power... will be legalized. The new law will create inflation whenever the trust wants inflation... from now on, depression will be scientifically created."
~ Congressman Charles Lindbergh (commenting on the Federal Reserve Act of 1913)

WillToFight said...

“I want to make one thing clear. This war against our Constitution is not being fought way off in Madagascar or Mandalay. It is being fought here -- in our schools, our colleges, our churches, our women’s clubs. It is being fought with our money, channeled through the State Department. It is being fought 24 hours a day, while we remain asleep.”
….Honorable Senator William E. Jermer, spoken in the United States Senate.

WillToFight said...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~ Benjamin Franklin

WillToFight said...

"A Federal Reserve note has no lawful or standard value..."

"Intrinsically, a Federal Reserve note is only a piece of paper
declared by the United States government to be legal tender for all
debts and on which a denomination has been imprinted as a matter of
convenience..." "The denominational indication is only

"...the reason for them being readily accepted and exchanged at
their face value, is obtained from the trust and confidence the
citizenry have in their government."

"The Federal Reserve notes are first liens on the assets of the
issuing Federal Reserve bank..."

"Rights belong to individuals, not groups."
"Property should be owned by people, not government."
"All voluntary associations should be permissionable -- economic and social."

WillToFight said...

Let's keep this alive folks.

We know the truth, because it is occurred. Look at the history, the fact are clear and plain what has happened.

Neodomenesassface/elmerfuckhead they are their own worst enemies. They have inhuman attitudes. Attitudes of dogs, or the lowest unthinking animals, that are there only to devour the waiste of other organism. Ameba, parasites and the like.

They are the virous in the Matrix!

Stay people! Study people! Listen and let us overcome this false burden that does not recognize humanity, due to it's/their insatiable lust and greed!

Down with you Neodomenes/elmer you are not real!

to the good fight

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mogel said...

Kurt said: "They are trying to make my bond an insurance product."
If that is true, then there is no insurance fraud THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED AGAINST SCOTT OR KURT.

Here is what the legal dictionary says about "subrogation":

"the substitution of another person in the place of the creditor
to whose rights be [the other person] SUCEEDS in relation to the debt; one's payment or assumption of an obligation for which another is primarily liable."
McClintock, Equity 123 (2d ed. 1948).

"This doctrine is NOT DEPENDENT UPON CONTRACT, NOR UPON PRIVITY BETWEEN THE PARTIES; IT IS THE CREATURE OF EQUITY, AND IS FOUNDED UPON PRINCIPLES OF MATERIAL JUSTICE......Subrogation has been generally classified as being either legal or convention. Legal subrogation arises by operation of law where one having a liability, or right or a fiduciary relation in the premises, pays a debt due by another under such circumstances that HE IS IN EQUITY ENTITLED to the security or obligation held by the creditor whom he has paid. Conventional subrogation, on the other hand, arises where by express or impled agreement with the debtor, a person advancing money to discharge a prior lien might be substituted to the security of the prior lienee." 18 S.E. 2d 917, 920.

If the doctrine of subrogation is NOT DEPENDENT UPON A CONTRACT, how can it possibly be that the subrogation bond is an insurance product? It can't be, PURE & SIMPLE BY LEGAL DEFINITION. Don't you have to get a license to sell insurance products? Isn't applying for & obtaining a license, DEPENDENT upon a contract? Of course. Isn't a license a privilege & NOT a right? Since subrogation is a CREATURE OF EQUITY, ACCORDING TO THE DEFINITION IT IS A RIGHT, AND FOUNDED UPON PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE, & not something you have to apply for a permit or a license, like selling an insurance product.

It is NOT dependent upon PRIVITY BETWEEN THE PARTIES. This should mean that Kurt or Scott has no obligation to tell or inform any government agency, or apply for any licensing that he is using these subrogation bonds, so the State of Utah has no jurisdiction in these matters.

Yet, despite all of this, The State of Utah still filed false insurance charges against both men. The truth is in the definitions of words & the State of Utah are only embarassing themselves.

I think Neodemesne has got it backwards. I think The State Of Utah is putting THEIR FACE IN THE WRONG PLACE. Dispute this with facts, Mr. Nemo, not your usual poor humor that doesn't even fit the situation. Your last joke of people people that died from the Jones fiasco didn't fit either, because the people DIDN'T EVEN GET IN LINES. The poision kool-aid was FORCED upon them, so I fail to see the humor. Maybe you think rape is funny too???????? How is being forced, tantamount to getting in long lines of waiting? You're not funny at all. You were probably one of those people cracking jokes about the incident when years ago the Space Shuttle blew up in the atmosphere too. Nothing funny about that either.

son of a prophet said...

GGG', Geez....

I must have missed the resurrection....all these DEAD people have come alive....just to post here....


mogel said...

Subrogation: "one's payment or assumption of an obligation for which ANOTHER is primarily liable."

I heard a joke that the atheist, The State of Utah, is trying to overturn the atonement of Jesus Christ too, as a legal and binding act upon all mankind, AND TRYING TO OVERTURN THE very acts of LITERAL PAYMENT for all sin to appease justice, through Jesus's suffering of his own blood.

Apparently, the State of Utah is looking for this fugitive
they call Jesus, since he didn't apply for a license to become a Saviour of all mankind & HAS VIOLATED SOME INSURANCE ISSUE that was put on the books which The State is claiming it now has jurisdiction.

Also it has been said, the man, Jesus, has been avoiding arrest by leaving this earth through his resurrection which may be another violation he could be charged with, or this will be used to take him into custody & hold him WITHOUT BOND until trial.

The State of Utah has far reaching effects. You see if they win, EVERYONE will be going to hell if his subrogation is deemed to be legally invalid, because no unclean thing can enter the kingdom of heaven as God the Father has decreed, so everyone will be rotting in their graves when they die in their sinful state with Lucifer as their master over them.

neodemes said...

In 1978, U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan went to Jonestown to investigate supposed abuses by the People's Temple onto its members. After staying for a day, Ryan tried to leave, taking four of the cult members who had decided to defect. Realizing this, Jones ordered them killed, as was done. Sensing that his utopia in the jungle would surely come to an end after word got back to the states about Ryan; Jones decide to put his suicide plan into action. Telling his subjects that it was a "revolutionary death," he had a large quantity of fruit punch laced with cyanide prepared. After making all 276 children at Jonestown drink the punch, all the adults proceeded. In the end, after Jones apparently killed himself with a gunshot to the head, 914 people had died.


These people chose to follow their false god, killing their own children and then themselves.

Funny? No. Pathetic? You bet. Just like Kurt and his mindless followers, cheered on by the likes of Byron.

You are a comedy of errors.

Take the red pill. No, wait. Take the blue pill. No,, what the hell, just drink the kool-aid.


Elmer Fudd said...

Yeah but the question is what flavor is Kurt gonna savor....HooYahh

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Seen it in Utah said...

Just so you people Utah the bail bond industry is regulated by the State Department of Insurance. Therefore, the phony attempt to post a bond that Kurt and Scott did (this was not mentioned by Kurt) falls under the jurisdiction of the State Insurance Department. I believe that is where the insurance issue raises its head. Kurt and Scott tried to post bond with a little home-made item that was not a recognized bond--and despite what any of the Doreanites try to claim--no state nor the feds would recognize this attempt at a bond that would let thm out of jail. It has to be a REAL bond.

son of a prophet said...


1...2...3...A-M-A-Z-I-N-G Grace...How s-w-e-e-t the sound, that saved a w-r-e-t-c-h like meeee.....I once w-a-s lost, BUT now am found, was B-L-I-N-D, BUT now I seeeee....

TWAS G-R-A-C-E that taught my heart to fear...Twas GRACE my fears relief...HOW P-R-E-C-I-O-U-S did that grace appear, the H-O-U-R I first believed.....

The L-O-R-D has promissed G-O-O-D to ME, His W-O-R-D my hope S-E-C-U-R-E-S...HE will my <||S-H-I-E-L-D||> and P-O-R-T-I-O-N be, as long as life endures.....

THRU many, many D-A-N-G-E-R-S and T-R-I-A-L-S and S-N-A-R-E-S, I HAVE A-L-R-E-A-D-Y COME....TWAS G-R-A-C-E- hath brought me S-A-F-E THUS FAR....and G-R-A-C-E will lead me H-O-M-E.....

WHEN we've been there 10,000 years...bright S-H-I-N-I-N-G as the SUN....WE'VE no LESS days to SING GODs P-R-A-I-S-E than when we F-I-R-S-T begun.....


mogel said...

Seen It In Utah: "Insurance fraud" charges was brought BEFORE Kurt & Scott was extradited to Utah & BEFORE any attempt at a "bail bond" by them was posted. Insurance fraud charges was one of the many Counts against them. It follows that if the State of Utah are going to reject a "subrogation bond", they would also reject a "bail bond" too in order to be consistent in their bad behaviour.

Nemo: You are the comedy of errors. You think that FORCE means to voluntarily follow. Sure the people were deceived in the beginning, that's not at all unusual. My point was that probably none of the Jonestown people chose to die voluntarily by patiently waiting in line to drink the kool aid, with maybe the exception of Mr. Jones who of course, was a crazy man in the first place. Your attitute is such that you think they deserve the death they received. Many of the followers figured that out that they were in a dangerous cult soon after getting to Guyana, but were UNABLE to leave since they were held against their will.

mogel said...

Seen It In Utah: Didn't you post about 4 weeks ago that the Utah Court docket had a scheduled hearing for Kurt & Scott around November 24, 2005 or around that date & that was your proof that the State of Utah was pursuing these matters & charges, or maybe it's been longer than that. Was that hearing date rescheduled or what happened? It apparently didn't happen since nothing has been mentioned about it. Doesn't appear to me that the State of Utah is all that eager in pushing this due process they started. It seems to me a person should have a right to a speedy trial or let go.

It was about the same time that someone else had said that all clients would be indicted too for their participation, another thing that didn't happen timely either, as this person claimed to be in the know & claimed to be some insider with special knowlege. Apparently this person was speaking with no authority & no real knowlege & was purposely lying.

mogel said...

Kurt said: "On May 27th 2005 we filed a whistleblower complaint with the Federal Grand Jury in Oakland, San Jose, and San Francisco. One hour later we were made criminal fugitives by the State of Utah."

One day later, May 28, 2005, Scott was arrested. Coincidence or retaliation? There's more evidence of retaliation than coincidence. Since then, no evidence of the charges have been presented in Court & no real trial to date. In a few days, we are going on the end of 6 months that he has been in jail without a trial and without his freedom. Does that seem odd to anyone?

neodemes said...

700+ adult followers couldn't over-power one psychotic leader?

Like most of your 'theories', Byron, that does not compute.

Follow the rabbit down the hole, and you're bound to get dirty.

tcob247 said...

son of prophet
That is a great song about the grace that God through his Son Jesus extends to us for our salvation.
Not for mortgage elimination

mogel said...

Neodemesne said: "700+ adult followers couldn't over-power one psychotic leader?"

Jones & his henchmen were many, not one as you say, & they had many guns, and the followers were NOT armed. How brave are you with a gun in your face? Four of his leaders who defected & the Congressman were shot & killed, who tried to escape, so the danger was pretty serious and taking over was not something easily done, otherwise, you would have thought they would have gotten away, which they didn't. It was probably more like a prison camp than a Bible camp. Your explanation of the danger of the situation is a little lacking don't you think.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "Like most of your 'theories', Byron, that does not compute."

Well, let's do some computing from the facts that you gave & consider those that protected Mr. Jones too:

914 people - 276 children = 638 adults who died.

638 adults - 64 (At least 10% were probably Jones's henchman to keep the followers in line) = 574 followers that could have revolted.

How does 574 compute to 700+?

son of a prophet said...


WHO said that the song was for mortgage elimination??

Its a good song no matter what the forum is.

It should be put in all fourms, not just religiuos ones. Else, only those in religiuos forums would see it, no?

Everyone should see it.


son of a prophet said...

Its amazing profound this apparetnly simple little song is and how many people dont really undertstand the deep meaning of the stanza's.

1st stanza:

'once was blind but now I see'

we were once all blind to the truth; thur Gods grace our eyes were opened to see the truth-Yeshua HaMashiach, the Way, the Truth and the Life

"it was Grace that taught my heart to fear"

Gods grace taught believers to fear Him, but, "Fear of the LORD is the beginning of Wisdom", thus with wisdom, one need not fear any logner, as one now knows how to please God


'the LORD has promissed good to me; His word my hope secures...'

believers ARE promissed good, but not necessarily in this life, as this is satans kingdom; Gods Word is security for everlasting life in Yeshua's millenial Kingdom and beyond.

"He will my shield and portion be...'

Yeshua offers protection from all evil; "Behold, I give you the power to tread on serpents, and scorpions, and over ALL the power of the enemy...'

A true believer need not fear anyone or anything.


'and potion be...'

Like a portion of food daily. "man does not live by bread alone, but with every Word that proceeds form the mouth of God...' ie., like daily bread, Gods Word.


"Twas Grace that brought me safe this far...

Amazing how many truly dont undertand this verse. The very fact that one is even here today, ie., ALIVE means taht already a hefty portion of Grace was dished out. From birth, when one could have been stillborn, to childhood diesaes which easily could have take ones life, to adult disease, accidents, hit by cars, plane crash, etc. etc. etc. The very fact that someone is HERE, is already PROOF of Gods Grace as many, many things could have taken him/her out a long time ago.


I could go into much deeper analysis of the meanings of the stanzas in this song, but you get the point.

neodemes said...

Semantics, Moogie.

The point remains the same.

Be careful who you follow, sheeple.

Clueless Fudd said...


go fuck yourself, you ugly fuck.

microlotus said...

Elmer fudd you little man who can't pronouce his "R's". Thank you for the reminder, as you remind us of someone who has never suffered one iota of "real hardship" without the comforts of Mummy & duddy's $$$$, to pacify yourself materialistically.

You appear to be a pompous individual,narcistic to boot and no doubt would have been claimed as personal property by one of the big boys dressed in blue by now if you were an inmate anywhere.
Kurt's not complaining about doing time, the size of his cell,etc.
Where you come up with the basis for your comments creates for a true stretching of the mind
Even your dreams won't even begin to bring you remotely close to grasping a simple understanding, let alone achieving the stature of integrity Kurt has exhibited.
And in regards to participating in a fight he can't win... please define the word "can't".

Elmer Fudd said...

microlotus said...
Elmer fudd you little man who can't pronouce his "R's". Thank you for the reminder, as you remind us of someone who has never suffered one iota of "real hardship" without the comforts of Mummy & duddy's $$$$, to pacify yourself materialistically.

You appear to be a pompous individual,narcistic to boot and no doubt would have been claimed as personal property by one of the big boys dressed in blue by now if you were an inmate anywhere.
Kurt's not complaining about doing time, the size of his cell,etc.
Where you come up with the basis for your comments creates for a true stretching of the mind
Even your dreams won't even begin to bring you remotely close to grasping a simple understanding, let alone achieving the stature of integrity Kurt has exhibited.
And in regards to participating in a fight he can't win... please define the word "can't".

Now you really hurt my feelings.. Maybe yourrrrrrrrrrrrrr blowing clueless and his daddy? Or maybe your caught up in this fiasco also and yourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr trying to protect yourrrrrrrrrrrrrrr little butt buddy kurt. Anyways your wrong i suffered alot of hardships and came along way as far as my financial wealth is concerned, but i did it the honest way jerkoff not by making promises to people i couldn't keep. So in otherwords go fuckyourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrself.

mogel said...

Nemo: Here's an easier arithmetic problem for you since the numbers of people in Jonestown obviously was too difficult for you to calculate and understand due to your "mindless following" of a simple cut and paste?

A Buyer wants to buy a house but doesn't have all the cash to do it, so he goes to a lender. If a lender gets 2 assets in the loan process both equal to each other (promissory note + mortgage) and gives out 1 asset of equal value (Gives a check to Seller of Home equal to the value of the promissory note), what is 2-1 = ?

If the answer is 1, how can a lender give a loan, and end up with 1 free asset? If the lender gets 2 assets and gives out 1 asset, isn't the answer positive 1? How is lending really lending if a lender receives more than he gives out?

Doesn't the example above, become the same as creating money or creating assets that didn't previously exist before the loan was given?

How is the above example a theory or something not proven? Doesn't 2 minus 1 ALWAYS equal 1?

So who looks dirty now playing in rabbit holes & who has egg on their face? At least I can add and subtract and understand it. You're the "comedy of errors".

mogel said...

Seen It In Utah: How do you define a recognizeable or "real bond" and what elements must it possess? Would you recognize a real bond based upon sight? Could a bond be in fact "real", based upon further research, but not be recognizeable at first sight as being real?

tcob247 said...

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The Irish needed every last yard from Brady Quinn and Darius Walker to become eligible for their first BCS appearance in five years.

Walker ran 6 yards for the winning touchdown with 55 seconds remaining, then took a direct snap in for the 2-point conversion, and the sixth-ranked Fighting Irish all but assured themselves of playing in one the four marquee bowl games with a 38-31 victory over Stanford on Saturday night.

"We play for 60 minutes, that's just all there is to it. We've got the talent on this team, but it's more than that," said Irish receiver Jeff Samardzija, who caught two touchdown passes as part of his career day.

Quinn passed for 432 yards and three touchdowns but also threw two interceptions, and Notre Dame survived a wild final few minutes for its fifth straight victory since a 34-31 loss to No. 1 USC on Oct. 15. Walker ran for a career-high 186 yards on 35 carries.

The Irish (9-2) won seven of their final eight games under first-year coach Charlie Weis, who made a key decision to switch kickers in the fourth quarter then gave his team a major scare when he switched back to starter D.J. Fitzpatrick.

After missing an extra point and a 42-yard field goal attempt earlier in the game, Fitzpatrick missed a 29-yard field goal wide left with 2:15 to play that could have provided Notre Dame a two-score lead.

Stanford took advantage.

The Cardinal, who will miss a postseason trip in coach Walt Harris' first year, went ahead 31-30 with 1:46 left after backup quarterback T.C. Ostrander's 4-yard touchdown pass to Matt Traverso. Ostrander set up the score with a 76-yard completion to Mark Bradford.

"We went back and forth the whole game," Weis said. "But I think the great thing about this football team is, earlier this year, before I got here, I didn't know if they understood how to win games like this. ... I've had a lot of games with this kind of pressure, it's just that they haven't had it."

Travis Thomas ran 8 yards for a score with 9:44 left for the Irish, who played in front of three representatives from the Fiesta Bowl and beat Stanford for the fourth straight time - having a much tougher time than they did in a 57-7 rout of the Cardinal here in 2003 in Tyrone Willingham's return to The Farm.

Samardzija increased his school-record single-season touchdown receptions mark to 15 and finished with nine catches for a career-high 216 yards to become Notre Dame's third career 1,000-yard single-season receiver. Maurice Stovall had seven catches for 136 yards and a TD.

Notre Dame could receive big money from this victory, too - at least $14 million for playing in the BCS.

Starting next year, Notre Dame will be guaranteed a projected $1.3 million from the BCS and would only receive about $4.5 million if the Irish play in one of the top bowls.

But Stanford made a game of it in the final event at 84-year-old Stanford Stadium, which will undergo a $90 million facelift to transform the venue into a state-of-the-art facility for 2006.

The Cardinal finished 5-6 against the second-toughest schedule in the nation and missed a chance at the school's first trip to the postseason since 2001.

"There's no such thing as a moral victory, but I'm proud that our guys fought their way back," Harris said. "That's the fighting attitude we have to have. We're going to lose some very fine football players. We have talented players here but we have to have more of them. We have to create depth."

The Cardinal certainly will be left to think all winter about a 20-17 loss to UC Davis - a team making the transition from Division II to Division I-AA - in Harris' home debut.

Construction began immediately after the clock expired, with three bulldozers and three dump trucks pulling onto the field to start pulling up dirt. A ceremony was held at halftime in honor of the stadium with dozens of former players in attendance.

Quinn's 10-yard touchdown pass to Stovall with 8:43 left in the third quarter gave the Irish the lead, but Fitzpatrick missed the extra point. Quinn completed 25 of 38 passes, overcoming his early mistakes to calmly lead the Irish on the winning drive.

Ostrander replaced starter Trent Edwards, who had been forced out of the previous two games with injuries and apparently re-aggravated a problem in his throwing arm. Ostrander came in to begin Stanford's second series of the third quarter and finished 11-for-15 for 197 yards and a touchdown.

"After we scored that last touchdown, I felt so good," Ostrander said. "We worked so hard and we had a shot. It wasn't over. And now our best leaders go without having gone to a bowl game. That's really hard for the rest of us."

The Irish led 7-0 15 seconds into the game after Quinn hit Samardzija for an 80-yard TD pass.

On Notre Dame's next possession, Kevin Schimmelmann intercepted a pass by Quinn - just the sixth pick of the year by Quinn - to set up Edwards' 27-yard TD pass to Bradford that tied the game at 7 with 11:38 left in the first quarter.

Quinn connected with Samardzija again on Notre Dame's next series with a 7-yard scoring pass. The Cardinal tied it on a 38-yard touchdown pass from Edwards to Justin McCullum 8:14 before halftime.

The BCS pairings are set Dec. 3.

"Despite all the projections and everyone writing things in pen and ink, we're really in a holding pattern until all the games are played," Fiesta Bowl executive director John Junker said. "Notre Dame is certainly a great story this year."

tcob247 said...

Charlie Weis, a 1978 University of Notre Dame graduate and owner of four Super Bowl championship rings as products of a stellar 15-season career as a National Football League assistant coach, is the 28th Notre Dame head football coach. A widely-respected disciple of professional coaching standouts Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick, Weis is in his first year at Notre Dame in 2005 (he was hired Dec. 12, 2004) - after spending the last five years as the highly-regarded offensive coordinator of the New England Patriots (under Patriot head coach Belichick). He played an integral role in New England's victories in three of the last four Super Bowls, including a 24-21 victory over Philadelphia in Super Bowl XXXIX in Jacksonville to cap the 2004 season. That run by Weis and the Patriots marks the most sustained Super Bowl success in the history of that event -- matching Dallas' three wins in a four-year period following the 1992 through '95 seasons. Weis becomes the first Notre Dame graduate to hold the football head coaching position at his alma mater since Hugh Devore (a '34 graduate) served as interim coach in 1963 (the Irish finished 2-7 that year - Devore also coached the Irish to a 7-2-1 mark as interim coach in 1945). Weis is the first Notre Dame graduate to serve as the Irish football coach on a full-fledged basis since '38 graduate Joe Kuharich did it from 1959 through '62. A veteran of 26 seasons overall in coaching, Weis spent nine seasons with the Patriots and five as the team's offensive coordinator - plus three seasons each with the New York Giants (1990-92) and New York Jets (1997-99). In those 15 NFL seasons, his coaching contributions helped produce those four Super Bowl championships (Giants following 1990 season, Patriots following '01, '03 and `04 seasons), five conference titles and six division titles. Weis has been a winner everywhere he has coached - and he has received widespread notice as one of the most creative and innovative offensive coordinators in football. All along the way, Weis has displayed the ability to develop successful offensive players. He helped advance the careers of New York Jets' running back Curtis Martin, Jets' wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson, Patriots' tight end Ben Coates and, most recently, Patriots' two-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback Tom Brady. Under Weis' tutelage, the former sixth-round draft choice has become one of the NFL's premier signalcallers in just four seasons as a starter. Including the playoffs, Brady has compiled a 57-14 record as a starting quarterback since stepping in early in 2001, when Weis also was serving as the New England quarterbacks coach, through the end of the '04 campaign. In addition to his offensive coordinator responsibilities, Weis mentored the Patriot quarterbacks both in 2001 and 2002. In `01, Drew Bledsoe started the first two games of the season before being sidelined with a serious chest injury. By the third week of the season, Weis was preparing Brady for his first NFL start and, over the course of the season, Brady blossomed into a Pro Bowl performer and earned the MVP award in Super Bowl XXXVI. Brady only continued to improve, leading the NFL with 28 touchdown passes in 2002, then turning in a second Super Bowl MVP performance in '03. In recent seasons, Weis' offense has permitted youthful Patriot offensive stars such as Brady, Deion Branch, Notre Dame graduate David Givens and Kevin Faulk to flourish. His offense also has allowed New England veterans such as Troy Brown, Christian Fauria and David Patten to enjoy resurgences in their careers. Brown established a New England record with 101 receptions in 2001, earning his initial Pro Bowl invitation in his ninth NFL season. Fauria led the Patriots with seven TDs in 2002 (his eighth pro campaign), while Patten's 61 catches in `02 were the most of his seven-year career. Weis also made great use of contributions from a pair of 2002 draft picks to help the team to its second Super Bowl championship in 2003. Branch led the team with 57 receptions in his second pro season, while fellow second-year player Givens paced New England with six receiving TDs. In the postseason, Givens added a pair of scores, while Branch's 10 catches in Super Bowl XXXVIII tied for the third-most in Super Bowl history. Givens, who played for the Irish in 1998-2001, led the `04 Patriots in receptions with 56 for 874 yards and three TDs. The Patriots finished 2004 with a franchise-record 20 consecutive homefield victories (regular-season and postseason combined) over three seasons, the longest current streak in the NFL. Meanwhile, Patriot running back Cory Dillon rushed for 1,635 yards and 12 TDs (ranking third in the league and including nine 100-yard games) in `04 - then added a 144-yard effort versus Indianapolis in the playoffs. New England enjoyed a 21-game unbeaten streak, including the final 15 games in 2003 (including three in the playoffs) and the first six in '04 and had won 32 of its last 34 games overall through the end of the '04 season. Weis started his professional coaching career with the New York Giants in 1990. After assisting in the Giants pro personnel department while also coaching high school football in `89, Weis a year later was named defensive assistant and assistant special teams coach (under eighth-year Giants head coach Parcells). In his first season on the Giants coaching staff, the Giants claimed the Super Bowl title with a 16-3 overall record. In 1991, Ray Handley took over as coach of the Giants and named Weis his running backs coach. After two seasons on Handley's staff, Weis began a four-year stint in New England - all four of those seasons under Parcells. In Weis' first tenure with the Patriots from 1993-96, he assisted in the development of some of New England's all-time best individual season performances from Coates, Martin and Terry Glenn, respectively. During his first four seasons in New England, he coached three different positions. In 1993 and `94, he served as the Patriots' tight ends coach and, in his second season at the position, Coates set an NFL record for receptions by a tight end with 96 and earned his first trip to the Pro Bowl. In `95, Weis coached the Patriots' running backs and was credited with developing Martin, a third-round `95 draft pick, into one of the premier running backs in the NFL. That year, Martin won league rookie-of-the-year honors and set franchise rushing records with 1,487 yards and 14 TDs. In `96, Weis coached the New England receivers, with Glenn leading the team and setting an NFL rookie reception record with 90 catches for 1,132 yards and six TDs. From 1997 to '99 (with Parcells as head coach and Belichick as assistant head coach), Weis called offensive plays for the New York Jets. In his first season, the Jets improved from 1-15 in 1996 to 9-7 in `97. The eight-game improvement ranked as the best in franchise history. In `98, Weis was named the offensive coordinator/wide receivers coach. By season's end, his offense ranked among the greatest in franchise history and led the Jets to their first division title. The team scored 416 points, second-highest total in franchise history (after 419 points in `68) and averaged 357.2 yards per game. It marked the second-best total-offense season average in Jets history (368.5 yards per game in `85). Both of Weis' starting receivers, Johnson (1,131) and Chrebet (1,083), eclipsed the 1,000-yard receiving plateau for the first time in their careers. It marked the first time since `86 that two Jets receivers reached that milestone in the same season. In `99, Weis' offense produced the NFL's second-leading rusher and the AFC's fourth-ranked receiver. Martin rushed for 1,464 yards, falling only 90 yards shy of the rushing title (won by Indianapolis' Edgerrin James). Johnson led the Jets and established career highs with 89 receptions for 1,170 yards, earning his second consecutive Pro Bowl nod. Weis has enjoyed tremendous coaching success at all levels, including high school, college and in the NFL. The Trenton, N.J., native began his coaching career in 1979 at Boonton High School in New Jersey, then spent the next five seasons at Morristown (N.J.) High School as a football assistant. In `85, he was hired by head coach Joe Morrison at the University of South Carolina, where he served four seasons -- with the Gamecocks finishing 8-4 and playing in the Gator and Liberty Bowls, respectively, following the '87 and `'88 seasons. He returned to New Jersey as head coach at Franklin Township High School in `89. That year, he directed Franklin Township to the New Jersey state championship while also assisting in the Giants' pro personnel department. In `90, he launched his professional coaching career with the New York Giants and celebrated the first of his four Super Bowl championships. Weis was born March 30, 1956, in Trenton, N.J. After graduation from Middlesex (N.J.) High School, he earned his bachelor's degree in speech and drama from Notre Dame in 1978. While coaching at South Carolina, he earned his master's degree in education in 1989. In 2003, Weis and his wife Maura established the Hannah & Friends Foundation, dedicated to children affected by developmental disorders. In the spring of `05, the second annual Hannah & Friends Celebrity Golf Classic was held in South Carolina to benefit the foundation. Charlie and Maura have two children, Charles Joseph and Hannah Margaret.

Year by Year with Charlie Weis
Year School/Team Assignment
1979 Boonton (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1980 Morristown (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1981 Morristown (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1982 Morristown (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1983 Morristown (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1984 Morristown (N.J.) High School Assistant Coach
1985 South Carolina Graduate Assistant Coach/Defensive Backs
1986 South Carolina Graduate Assistant Coach/Linebackers
1987 South Carolina (8-4, Gator Bowl) Volunteer Coach/Defensive Ends
1988 South Carolina (8-4, Liberty Bowl) Assistant Recruiting Coordinator
1989 Franklin Township (N.J.) High School Head Coach
1990 New York Giants (13-3, Super Bowl champion) Def. Assistant, Asst. Special Teams
1991 New York Giants (8-8) Running Backs
1992 New York Giants Running Backs
1993 New England Patriots Tight Ends
1994 New England Patriots (10-6, Wild Card loser) Tight Ends
1995 New England Patriots Running Backs
1996 New England Patriots (11-5, lost Super Bowl) Wide Receivers
1997 New York Jets (9-7) Wide Receivers
1998 New York Jets (12-4, lost AFC title game) Offensive Coordinator/Wide Receivers
1999 New York Jets (8-8) Offensive Coordinator/Wide Receivers
2000 New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs
2001 New England Patriots (11-5, Super Bowl champ.) Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks/RBs
2002 New England Patriots (9-7) Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
2003 New England Patriots (14-2, Super Bowl champ.) Offensive Coordinator
2004 New England Patriots (11-1) Offensive Coordinator

Among the former Notre Dame football players who played on Weis-coached teams in the National Football League are tight ends Mark Bavaro (1990) and Derek Brown (1992), safety Dave Duerson (1990), offensive tackle Tom Rehder (1990-inactive) and defensive end Eric Dorsey (1991-92) with the New York Giants, running back Robert Farmer (1999) and quarterback Rick Mirer (1999) with the New York Jets, and tight end Jabari Holloway (2001-inactive), fullback Marc Edwards (2001-02), wide receiver David Givens (2002-present), defensive back Rod Smith (1993-94) and defensive back Brock Williams (2001-02) with the New England Patriots. Duerson, Bavaro, Edwards, Williams, Holloway and Givens are now owners of Super Bowl champion rings based on those experiences.
Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian on Charlie Weis: "Charlie has proven to be one of the outstanding offensive minds in football. His teams are exceptional in their use of personnel, exceptional in the way they attack defenses, exceptional in the concepts they use. You've hired a guy who clearly is on the cutting edge of offensive football."
Looking for a list of first-time college head coaches who have been successful? Check out the current Associated Press poll - and you'll find names like Stoops, Tedford, Richt and Fulmer, among others. The move to Notre Dame marks the first collegiate head coaching job for Charlie Weis, but that's hardly unusual when you eyeball a list of the best teams in the country in 2004. A look at the final regular-season AP top 25 poll shows that 11 of the 25 coaches whose teams made the rankings are in their very first head coaching position at the college level, including some of the biggest names in the college game. The list includes: #2 Oklahoma's Bob Stoops 12-0 in '04 67-11 overall (.859 win percentage)
#4 California's Jeff Tedford 10-1 25-12 (.676)
#7 Louisville's Bobby Petrino 10-1 19-5 (.792)
#8 Georgia's Mark Richt 9-2 49-11 (.817)
#13 Michigan's Lloyd Carr 9-2 95-28 (.772)
#14 Miami's Larry Coker 8-3 43-6 (.878)
#15 Tennessee's Phil Fulmer 8-3 121-30 (.801)
#16 Wisconsin's Barry Alvarez 9-2 108-69-4 (.608)
#20 Florida's Ron Zook (Illinois) 7-4 23-14 (.622)
#23 Texas Tech's Mike Leach 7-4 38-25 (.603)
#25 Boston College's Tom O'Brien 8-3 64-42 (.604)

Four others had been previous head coaches but not on the Division I level:
#1 USC's Pete Carroll 12-0 41-9 (.820)
#10 Boise State's Dan Hawkins 11-0 30-5 (.857)
#11 Iowa's Kirk Ferentz 9-2 41-31 (.569)
#24 Ohio State's Jim Tressel 7-4 39-11 (.780)

Of these 15, seven made the jump from college offensive coordinator to Div. I head coach (Tedford, Petrino, Richt, Coker, Fulmer, O'Brien, Leach).
Four made the jump from college defensive coordinator to Div. I head coach (Stoops, Carr, Alvarez, Zook).
One (Carroll) made the jump from NFL head coach.
Three (Hawkins, Ferentz, Tressel) were head coaches at non-Div. I institutions.
Former Notre Dame All-America tight end Mark Bavaro (he played under Charlie Weis with the New York Giants) on Weis: "I don't think they could make a better decision. He's a very straightforward, no-nonsense type of guy. He's not in it for glory or self-promotion. He's in it to win. He's a student of both of those guys (Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick), from the same school, from the same coaching tree as those guys. If you want know what kind of coach he'll be, look at Parcells and Belichick. He's definitely proven he can handle pressure. The Notre Dame job comes with its owns type of pressure, but from what I've seen him go through in the past, I think he'll come through just fine."
When Charlie Weis takes the field with the Irish in 2005, it will have been 42 years since a Notre Dame graduate held the University's head coaching position. But there has been plenty of Notre Dame head football coaches with Notre Dame degrees:
Knute Rockne 1918-30 Class of '14
Hunk Anderson 1931-33 Class of '22
Elmer Layden 1934-40 Class of '24
Frank Leahy 1941-43, 46-53 Class of '31
Hugh Devore 1945, 1963 Class of '34
Terry Brennan 1954-58 Class of '49
Joe Kuharich 1959-62 Class of '38
Charlie Weis 2005- Class of '78
Ed McKeever (1944) attended Notre Dame but graduated from Texas Tech.

Current New England Patriot wide receiver David Givens (he played for Notre Dame in 1998-2001) on Charlie Weis...
"He's been a teacher and coach of high school kids and he's got so much experience coaching NFL players like myself. There's no doubt in my mind he would be an outstanding recruiter because he relates so well to young people. I can say this because I've played for Charlie and I played at Notre Dame. I understand the pressures of playing and the pressures the coaches had coaching us at Notre Dame. They're all things Charlie would do very well with."

Former Notre Dame All-America quarterback and current ESPN analyst Joe Theismann on Charlie Weis...
"I think Charlie Weis in the right man for the right job at the University of Notre Dame. He understands throwing the football. That's what this era of college football is today - the ability to put it in the air. He's been a student at Notre Dame so he knows the culture of the University. He's worked on a big stage, having been part of World Championships two of the last three years with the Patriots. He's very inventive - his offenses have included defensive ends at fullback and linebackers at tight end. He's inventive as well as creative. He's a man who will bring a quiet discipline to the program. I think it's a great hire."

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tcob247 said...

Here is something interesting

To: National and State Desks

Contact: U.S. Department of Justice, 202-514-2007 or 202-514-1888 (TDD), Web:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 22 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Notorious tax protestor Larken Rose of Hollywood, Pa., was sentenced in federal district court to 15 months imprisonment for failing to file tax returns for the years 1998 - 2002, the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) announced today. In compliance with Judge Michael M. Baylson's admonition following Rose's conviction in August, Rose submitted delinquent tax returns for the years 1997 - 2004 and paid a substantial deposit to the IRS toward his outstanding tax liability. The court sentenced Rose to one year of supervised release following his prison term and ordered Rose to pay a fine of $10,000 and all taxes, interest, and penalties he owes to the IRS.

"People who intentionally fail to file returns or pay taxes as required by law can expect to face criminal prosecution, conviction and imprisonment," said Eileen J. O'Connor, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's Tax Division. "And they will still be required to pay the taxes they tried to avoid, plus interest and penalties."

Rose, a former co-owner of a medical transcription business, was convicted by a jury in August 2005 of five counts of willfully failing to file federal income tax returns. The evidence at trial established that Rose did not file returns for 1998 - 2002 despite earning $500,000 in income during those years. Rose claimed that he did not file returns for those five years because he believed that income he earned in the U.S. was not taxable according to Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Section 861. The evidence, however, showed that Rose received more than a dozen notices from the IRS rejecting his Section 861 argument and that he received more than ten letters from members of Congress notifying him that his Section 861 argument was invalid. In addition, Rose admitted that he was aware of two court cases rejecting his Section 861 argument.

Courts have consistently held that IRC Section 861 does not excuse U.S. citizens from filing tax returns and reporting income they earn in the U.S. At trial, Judge Baylson instructed the jury that Rose's Section 861 argument was incorrect as a matter of law. In convicting Rose, the jury rejected Rose's claim that he held a good faith belief that he was not required to file federal income tax returns or pay federal income tax.

"The conviction of individuals who intentionally conceal income and evade taxes is a vital element in maintaining public confidence in our tax system," stated Nancy Jardini, chief, IRS Criminal Investigation. "Mr. Rose's sentencing today reminds us that fulfilling individual tax obligations is a legal requirement and those who willfully evade that responsibility will be prosecuted."

"It's simply not fair to honest taxpayers if we don't hold those who refuse to pay their fair share accountable," said Pat Meehan, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. "This sentence is a reminder that every citizen must pay what he or she owes. Honest, hard-working people who pay their taxes have no time for those who scheme to evade their responsibilities and neither does the law."

On Nov. 9, in a separate trial, a jury found Rose's wife and business partner, Tessa David, guilty of willfully failing to file tax returns for 1998 -2002. David's sentencing is scheduled for Feb. 15, 2006.

Assistant Attorney General O'Connor and U.S. Attorney Meehan thanked Assistant U.S. Attorney Floyd J. Miller, and Tax Division Trial Attorney, Shawn T. Noud, who prosecuted the case. They also thanked the special agents of the IRS, whose assistance was essential to the successful investigation and prosecution of the case.

I remember Larkin Rose being so sure that he had the truth just like Kurt does

If you pay your taxes and dont try to defraud people with a mortgage eliminaton scheme......You won't go to jail

Starfish Prime said...

tcob burn in hell you nazi faggot!!

tcob247 said...

Is that you?
Where have you been?
Are all your heros going to jail
I guess I would be pissed too
Are you still talking to ghosts?
Have you stormed the White House yet?

You crack me up

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