Tuesday, February 21, 2006

A Psalm

I stand before my worldly accuser
precluded from words of exoneration
My Mediator deals with them
They have supposed they could practice law
without the law's fulfillment
They created a hybrid, a mutant,
deformed from its inception
a lawlessness called justice
Now I know I stand here not for my deliverance
but to see theirs which is far more important
Give me the grace Lord to carry out Thy will
Twin their hearts as the Ninevites
do not harden them as pharaoh
My heart aches because I know them
they are a proud stiffnecked people
whose contemptible heart is blind to truth
Let them fall upon the rock
before it fall upon them in crushing weight
Deliver us all to Your righteous way
and have us delight n Your statutes

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son of a prophet said...
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WillToFight said...

Good angle to pursue SOP!

habakkuk said...

Kurt,
Beautiful prayer. I know the Father has heard you. This case has entered the Heavenly courts of the Righteous Judge of all the earth. He will have justice in His court.

I was praying about this situation yesterday and i asked the Lord "whats going on with this case?....Why does it keep going back and forth?....Lord, show me". The Lord led me to the book of Ezekiel 11:1-4

1 "Then the Spirit lifted me up and brought me to the East Gate of the LORD’s house, which faces eastward; and there at the door of the gate were twenty-five men, among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azzur, and Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people. 2 And He said to me: “Son of man, these are the men who devise iniquity and give wicked counsel in this city, 3 who say, ‘The time is not near to build houses; this city is the caldron, and we are the meat.’ 4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man!”

After i read that i felt the Lord was saying to me that there were men (a couple in particular) that were advising the other side and they were giving wicked counsel. These men may be prosecuters or they may just be men of prominence who are behind the scenes of this case with the DG....i dont know exactly....But its a couple "hot shots", men filled with pride who think they can play with the life of innocent people and not see consiquences from a Heavenly Judge. AND THEN I READ FURTHER:

13" Now it happened, while I was prophesying, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died."

I later read in Acts 12 (New Testament)that God struck Herod down after Herod had first killed James and threatened to do the same to Peter. The Church began to pray intensly for Peter and the Angel of the Lord broke Peter out of jail in the middle of the night....But the next day guess who dropped dead? HEROD. Herod got so drunk with power that he felt he could just kill anybody he wanted...He killed James and then he felt he could do the same to Peter without any consequences once the Saints of G-d complained to the Heavenly Judge.

Please understand, I dont wish anyone to die...But when conspiring men who know what they are doing is not lawful continue to rail against G-d and his servants...They are stepping on dangerous ground. G-d in His mercy gives those men a chance to make the right decision...(In this case drop any charges like Utah did). If you notice in Ezeliel G-d killed one man but left the other alive. He is merciful and "does not wish that anyone will perish".

I feel the Lord was saying to me that these particular men involved had a chance to drop the case as did Utah but decided to play their game even further. They gave wicked counsel to take this thing further than it needed to go and now they have stepped into a territory they dont want to be in. My prayer is that G-d will be merciful and soften their hearts.

Lets watch and see what happens.

tcob247 said...

My prayer is the SOP will stop with cut and paste and that you will stop trying to put your own twist on scripture

I doubt my prayer will be answered

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habakkuk said...

SOP...Thanks for passing that on.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

OK Willie. How am I a sell out? I've been waiting for two years. I haven't insulted Kurt and Scott or Dr. Fred. I believe what they are doing is right, but they are fighting a beast and I know the odds are greatly stacked against them. Yet.....I don't come on here and bash them. If I tell others "waz up"........will I then be part of the fighting team? What good have you done on this blog? Have you helped anyone? Have your words helped lead the lost to new found treasures..........I doubt it. At least I made a few people laugh. Instead you call people Fuck Face. If being part of the team means being on your side calling people Fuck Face.........you can have it.

habakkuk said...

I got an awesome story to share!!

One of my family members who are also clients of the DG have been going thru a rough time....sickness, loss of income, and now they are facing foreclosure with a sheriff's sale of their home in about 2 weeks. I was praying heavy for them the last couple days and i felt like i needed to get on the internet last night and search for some company that could help them stop the foreclosure or at least delay the sheriff's sale. I surfed thru a lot of sites that told me stuff i already knew but then at about 1am last night i found one company that seemed worth printing out....so i printed the info and then went to bed. A couple more minutes more and i would have called it quits without finding them....i was dog tired.

The next morning the first thing i did was pass the info to my family so they could call the company to see what they could do. Well, i just heard back from them and they said that the guy who helped them was a Believer(or if you want CHRISTIAN) and he said he is confident they can help them stop the foreclosure. He went on to say that he felt the presence of G-d was there strong during that phone call and he knew this was a divine set up. He even prayed for them.

This is the same family who last summer almost had their home sold at the sheriff's sale but after we prayed a friend came to their home with a check for $15,000 and said "I felt the Lord wanted us to give you this.....Are you in desperate need of money?" Hahaha!!!
G-d did it again!!!!!

I dont really care what others on this blog tell me....I have experienced for myself the Lord's power...No one can make me doubt Him. And i know when G-d speaks to me....and i can tell you now, watch and see what G-d will do for Kurt, Scott and all of us who are clients. Yes, even you Tcob;)

WillToFight said...

SOP

you need to delete this post, scanning down 90 pages is too much!

Just post the link. Many of us have it anyway!

SWAMI good point. I must have misread you! I take everything back. Not about the real Fuck Faces though. Haven't you ever heard of sticks and stones?

Read some of my earlier post and you will have your answer about what I've tried to do to help!

And really, you don't think that real info. can be posted here, do you?

Look at how neodomenesfuckface just slobbers over anything that can be compared negativly to the process!

He is a volture, a virus to humanity! I've read his BS for years.

I just don't like these Idiots who would sell their mother for their next paycheck!

We've got a real battle and war to fight and it is not just in the Mortgage industry!

midwesttoo said...

SOP

Kurt posted a PDF link in Sept to this book, so now you can remove the 90 page post--thanks

PS:
HOW I CLOBBERED EVERY BUREAUCRATIC CASH-CONFISCATORY AGENCY KNOWN TO MAN... a Spiritual Economics Book on $$$ andRemembering Who You Are

http://www.freedomfiles.org/mary-book.pdf

whyudothat said...

The Swami said...
If being part of the team means being on your side calling people Fuck Face.........you can have it.

the way that willtofight replies in such foolishness makes me believe he is fred of dorean, just a hunch

complainers suck said...

whyudothat said...
the way that willtofight replies in such foolishness makes me believe he is fred of dorean, just a hunch

...and a wrong one at that.

WillToFight said...

When it won't need a tyranny to deprive us of our freedom

George Monbiot / London Guardian | February 21 2006

The creeping extension of implantation technology will eventually break down all the barriers between us and the state .

It received just a few column inches in a couple of papers, but the story I read last week looks to me like a glimpse of the future. A company in Ohio called City-Watcher has implanted radio transmitters into the arms of two of its workers. The implants ensure that only they can enter the strongroom. Apparently it is "the first known case in which US workers have been tagged electronically as a way of identifying them".

son of a prophet said...

ok,

i will delet it.

if somebody wants it, i can always put it back.

son of a prophet said...

tell me,

according to the article, one can recover ALL the $$$$ that was paid to the IRS!?

HAS ANYONE DONE THIS by filing a Form 1041?

thanx.

son of a prophet said...

one world govt.
one world currency



BIS Calls For Global Currency
Nazi bankrollers want elimination of national sovereignty for world cashless control grid

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | February 21 2006

The scandal-ridden and highly secretive Bank For International Settlements, considered to be the world's top central banking policy, has released a policy paper that calls for the end of national currencies in favor of a global model of currency formats.

The BIS is a branch of the of the Bretton-Woods International Financial architecture and closely allied with the Bilderberg Group. It is controlled by an inner elite that represents all the world's major central banking institutions. John Maynard Keynes, perhaps the most influential economist of all time, wanted it closed down as it was used to launder money for the Nazis in World War II.

Buried in a London Telegraph report on UK inflation rates is the admission that the BIS, "has also suggested ditching many national currencies in favour of a small number of formal currency blocks based on the dollar, euro and renminbi or yen."

Centralized control of currency is a keystone pillar in the construction of global government.



The eventual goal is a cashless society credit system based on a worldwide citizen ID. Those designated as subversives or security threats will have their credit entitlement reduced and restrictions will be placed on when and what they can buy or sell. A world tax will be levied on all purchases.

In the meantime new denominations of paper money will be tracked and traced. Euro notes come with RFID tags as standard and the same feature is being incorporated into newly designed US dollar notes.

Last month the United Nations made a promise to save the world from all its ills in return for complete elimination of national sovereignty and financial markets and their replacement by a proxy world government.

The so-called 'conservative Bush administration have done everything in their power to destroy the last vestiges of American sovereignty, including increasing deficit spending beyond the level of all previous 42 administrations put together, signing legislation anathema to the Constitution, promoting global government and anti-American trade deals like CAFTA and the FTAA, and attempting to 'solve' the illegal immigration problem by enacting blanket amnesty.

son of a prophet said...

VERY OMINOUS IN THE ABOVE:

THE STATEMENT IN THE PARAGRAPH OF WHAT ONE "MAY BUY OR SELL"


from the bible, the mark of the beast states that witout it, one "may not buy, or sell."

gettin' close folks...

Peanut Gallery said...

SOP,

Do you even think before you react?

You are a contrdiction of yourself.

Why are you so concerned that a Middle East company will be overseeing our ports? It can't be because of a terrorist threat could it?

How can there be a threat from something that YOU believe does not exist?

Remember, the Gov't cooked up 911 not terrorists, right?

son of a prophet said...

Why are you so concerned that a Middle East company will be overseeing our ports?

personally, i am not.





It can't be because of a terrorist threat could it?



no, it is not. as you have said, because i believe virtually none of what is said publicly, i just suspect there is an ulteriour motive.

How can there be a threat from something that YOU believe does not exist?



would counsel please restate the question. what is it that i allegedly believe does not exist?




Remember, the Gov't cooked up 911 not terrorists, right?



if by this statement, you mean:

the govt. was a conspirator to 9/11, then the ans. is yes.

as far as 'terrorists', as even the govt. will tell you, this word can be defined as whatever one wants to define it as; sort of like the banking system....mysterious, nebulous, incongruent...undefined....etc...etc...


so do terrorists exist....yes, and no. the govt. can be classified as terrorists,if you like.

tcob247 said...

What do you do for a living SOP?

Are you a Dorean Client?
Did you put your house in this program?

Gforce said...

Kurt---Good to see you have love and forgiveness on your heart. Love(God)never fails. We are "not fighting against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, and rulers in high places." The desparation and panic of these evil entities is clearly evident in politics and economics and media. As true believers take back the power and wealth that is our inheritance, the attacks and accusations become more extreme. Satan is a loser and ALWAYS will be!! Like you have always said, the true reality is this whole DG situation with the feds is a bluff, a lie, a fake-- the true nature of its originator, though "some" do not realize it yet. Satan's M-O has NOT changed since the Garden of Eden, he has only attempted to refine it. He is the father of all lies and there is NO truth in him, none. CHOICE--A--DG is guilty of all or part of indicment, originated form the father of all liesand from a corrupt system seeking its own ends--CHOICE--B--"the law of God is in your heart; your feet do NOT slip. The wicked lie in wait for you, seeking you very life; but the Lord will NOT leave you in their power or let you be condemned when brought to trial."Ps37--"You are BLESSED because you have regard for the weak; the Lord DELIVERS you in times of trouble. The Lord will PROTECT you and PRESERVE your life; He will BLESS you in the land and NOT SURRENDER you to the desire of your enemies. The Lord will SUSTAIN you on your sickbed and RESTORE you from your bed of illness."Ps41-------I choose choice B which comes from the Father of Truth.----The timing of satan's deepfrying in the lake of fire is directly related to the transfer of the wealth of the wicked to the sons and daughters of God who are believing for it. Satan got fooled by the power of the cross and now he can ONLY attempt to delay his final destruction. He can only delay IF the sons and daughters of God ALLOW him to. WE have been given back DOMINION and CONTROL over this planet at the cross and NOW is finally the time we(true believers) have decided(as God has stirred us up) to finally use it. Remember--these manipulators and controllers that promote evil for their own gain are NOT more powerful than their master or father(satan). Certainly without question, the sons of God have more power through their Father and will do GREATER works than Jesus and in Jesus name!!

Gforce said...

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son of a prophet said...

tcob,

i ask you, whether i am or whether i am not, what is that to you?

does it make a difference?

Peanut Gallery said...

After 18 months of Dorean and the loss of my house. And the delays, delays, delays......

Not to mention the fact that kookburgers like SOP, are attracted to mortgage elimination, makes me believe that it was and is a lot of wishful thinking.

Nut jobs like SOP and others talk of all these grand conspiracies, for control of the world, yet they hold out hope that Kurt and Scott will win.

Hey if the Gov't, as they believe, can pull off the 911 attacks, does it not stand to reason that they can do whatever it takes to shut Kurt and Scott up for a long time, regardless if they are right when it comes to the banking industry?

Dr. Freds last update with the $60.00 fee for notorised documents was the last straw.

I am outa here.

SOP, I'll be lookin for ye with my black helio-copterz. Dufus

son of a prophet said...

pg said.....

"Hey if the Gov't, as they believe, can pull off the 911 attacks, does it not stand to reason that they can do whatever it takes to shut Kurt and Scott up for a long time, regardless if they are right when it comes to the banking industry?"



yes, this is true. the govt. has the power to do as they please.

however.....i do believe that somehow, someway the govt. has itself been infiltrated and that ultimately, things are going to change drastically for reasons way too numerous to discuss here.


i believe that the govt. is also conducting a 'weeding out' process to separate the more intelligent beings from the less so.

remember, the laws are there for those intelligent enuf and who possess enuf logic to work them.

is this fair? absolutely not, but that may be the case.

dont forget, these schemes were devised by man, not by God, therefore, they can be solved by man. everyman? unfortunately, no.

but i did not make the rules, just learn to play the game. after all,it is just a game.

for example, the ptb knows that war is game. but yet, those who get caught up in it, die -for real-

but if you were to tell them not to fight, as this is what Yeshua said, they would not believe you.

thus and example of what one does not know or is fool enuf to believe will cost them.

but again, i didnt make the rules, i just try to learn and play by them.

there was a saying..."if youre dumb, you suffer"

unfortunately, this is very true.

son of a prophet said...

remember, the court is the temple of baal.






The Temples of Baal

Comprehending the beast with which you are dealing:
The Court is the synagogue. [the temple of Baal, enforcing Babylonian Talmudic Law]

1. The gate (or bar) is the veil.
The bench is the alter.
The Black Robed Devil (the judge, administrative magistrate) is the high priest. [vicarius dei]
The Attorney [from attorn = to twist or turn] is the mediator. [vicarius filii dei]
{The attorney's job is to move one into Roman 'Civil Law' Jurisdiction and then into Code and Rule Pleadings; remember he is a devil, too}
The bailiffs, clerks, and stenographers are the high priest servants.
If one enter the veil, one is there to give sacrifices.
The fine is the wave (given to escape the threat of punishment) offering.
The court cost is the heave (tribute or gift) offering.


[If you enter voluntarily, then just give your sacrifices and be a good slave and stop wasting the Court's time. If you hire an attorney then you have volunteered, as sheople lead to slaughter and you will get what you deserve.]

How can one plea, if they "do not understand the nature and cause of the charges"? And if one is coerced to enter a plea, then that plea would have to be "Non assumpsit, Without prejudice" > "...a plea by which Defendant avers that "he did not undertake" or promise as alleged by the plaintiff" with "no rights...waived". - Black's Law 6th Ed. A better plea is "Plea in Bar"; however, one must know proper proceed well, to make this one really stick.

If one enters plea of NOT GUILTY, one just might as well Plea Nolo Contrendere and get it over with; because one will loose anyway, since Not Guilty is a negative and it is impossible to prove a negative. The proper Plea would be a Plea of Innocence, which is a positive Plea, something which can be proven. Remember, too, that these are courts of controversy. Learn ways and methods of avoiding controversy. These courts can, only, proceed in controversy.

THE BELLIGERENT CLAIMANT

"The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one indifferent thereto. It is a fighting clause. Its benefits can be retained only by sustained combat. It can not be retained by attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted upon by a belligerent claimant in person."
"The one who is persuaded by honeyed words or moral suasion to testify or produce documents rather than make a last ditch stand, simply loses the protection. Once he testifies to part, he has waived his right and must on cross examination or otherwise, testify as to the whole transaction. He must refuse to answer or produce, and test the matter in contempt proceedings, or by habeas corpus."
-- United States v. Johnson, 76 F. Supp. 538, 540 (District Court, M.D. PA. 1947)

Once one hires an Attornor, and tell (testifies to) the Attornor (the enemy's spy and Officer of the Court) what has happened, the Attornor is required by law to share (Discovery) ALL evidence, which he obtains from his Client, with the Prosecutor. "You have the right to remain silent, everything that you say (to any of these devils), CAN and WILL be used against YOU." Miranda v Arizona, 384 US 436(1966). You would be wise to remain silent! "Open mouth, insert foot!" It is all a game, you are a pawn; and you have been prearranged to be the looser. Here is another good one, learn to answer a question with question. The master asks the question and the slave or servant answers.

Never APPEAR 'Pro se', 'Pro per' or 'Pro' anything, not even 'In propria persona'. Never allow the Black Robed Devil to proclaim that you are there 'Pro se', 'Pro per' or 'Pro' anything. Always, ALWAYS, take EXCEPTION. One does not OBJECT to the Judge's utterances, one takes EXCEPTION. One OBJECTS to the Prosecutor's utterances. The Supreme Court in all of its ultimate wisdom made this ruling about those who APPEAR 'PRO SE': "If there is any truth to the old proverb that '[o]ne who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client,' the Court by its opinion today now bestows a constitutional right on one to make a fool of himself." -- Faretta v California, 45 L Ed 2d 562, 592 (1975); also, found at last page of 422 US 806 and 95 S Ct 2525. To become a good belligerent claimant one needs to learn the "Faretta Defense". The court nor the state does not have the right or the need to know ones, family, work, military, educational or religious background. All that is needed is that one is able to read, write and speak America's English. Stop, volunteering information. The more information one volunteers the more these devil have to use against their victim.


If one, out of necessity, must be present, then that presence, not appearance (things unseen are that which appear), should 'sui juris' by one's own Right or 'suæ °otestate esse', the lord or master of the soil (self rule). The latter require knowledge of law to successfully use. To appear 'Pro Se' or 'Pro' anything is to accept a temporary appoint to the BAR, a acronym {British AristocRATic Regency or British Accreditation Registry}. Attorney's are Esquires. Esquires are apprentice Knights or Squires, who are practicing to become Squires and you pay for their practice. The Florida Bar as an example has 70,000 members; however, less than 2,800 members are Certified as Competent. Do you really wish to be one of their guinea pigs?

It should, also, be noted that the United States Supreme Court in ALL of its ultimate wisdom gave full immunity to Judges, Attorneys, Court Reporters, Stenographers, Law Enforcement Officers and Expert Witnesses (such as Shrinks and Psychos, Sorcerers) who testify for the STATE against both civil and criminal prosecution for perjury. They all have received an indulgence (permission or license) to BEAR FALSE WITNESS again YOU. Read it and weep, Briscoe v LaHue, 460 US 325; 75 L Ed 2d 96, 103 S Ct 1108. Do you really want to play cards at this table?

Welcome to the Fascist States of the United States, a British Crown State.


The Black robed Devil (false accuser) is God [vicarius dei = substitute for deity; The Defense Attornor is the vicarius filii dei = substitute for the son of deity] All other officers are lesser Deities. Therefore, stop using the term God. PERIOD. What part of the word stop do you not comprehend. God = Gaud (old English) = G⤠(Hebrew, SH #1408 and 1409) = the deity of good luck, good fortune, or troops; a deity of Babylon (The Luciferian Idol, which stand in New York Harbor). You ask this Black Robed Devil for your God-given rights and he will give them to you, maybe even 5 to 10 in one of their iron bar hotels. Get the point! One is hung by their own tongue.

[All Officers of the Court are Agents or Representatives of the IRS. - Fed. Civil Rules, Rule 81(f).]
Devil (SG #1228) = false accuser. GODS = idols = demons (SG #1140) =idols, false deities.

Welcome to Babylon!

I want my Creator given Rights or unalienable Rights, because I am a child of The King, not a servant of Baal. Remember, is there enough evidence to convict you of being a Christian? If you keep not the Laws (all 679 of these) of the Book of the Law (the Geneva Bible) (The KJV is the State Religion Bible and the NIV is the UN Bible.), then the claim to being sovereign is MOOT. One is not a sovereign, one is the heir elect of the sovereign. To claim sovereignty is to self proclaim to be deity. Dumb move! This Black Robed Devil, remember he is an Attornor, a twister, who will do everything to trick his victim to brake the Law {the Creator's Law, the supreme Law of the Land; i.e., America, the Heavenly Kingdom} and thereby gains jurisdiction. Selah! He, only, gains jurisdiction if one voluntarily give it to him. Christians can not take an oath (Talmudic or Luciferian in origin) or sign an affidavit in their form. (Matthew 5:34-37; James 5:12) There is a way of escape through, 28 USC 1746 (1). Though, a better way of escape is by recording Surety Bond in Twenty-one silver Dollars and filling UCC1, based on Private Security Agreement; thereby, securing your "transmitting utility". It is all a matter of "Through The Looking Glass". Pawn Queen eight, Check Mate!

However, beware that if one successfully proves to be a Christian there is a high probability that these devil will attempt to commit one to prison for the insane, in order to force one to do time, anyway. It is a loop hole, by which they circumvent their own laws. Basically, they cannot imprison Christians in their system, they imprison felons, CONS and WARDS; therefore if they cannot make or convert a Christian into a Felon by their CON game, then this is the simple solution, Baker Act the Christian, declare the victim to be NUTS, a ward of the court, and commit the Christian, then shoot the victim with drugs (the practice of Sorcery, Gal. 5:20; Rev. 21:8), after a period of a few months, MAGICALLY no more Christian. If they are able to perpetrate this fraud long enough, Christian is DEAD. Problem solved. Next! Folks, this is what took place in Nazi Germany and now in the United States.

Christians cannot or should not enter at the gates of Baal, nor into contracts with devils [e.g.-- signing into the iron bar hotel, posting bail, the hiring of an Attorney or plea bargaining]. Christians can give or sign 'asseverations' or 'declarations of truth' in the form of Affidavits {28 USC 1746 (1)}. If at all possible, Christians must stand firm in 'commons' and not go in at bar. It is best to do everything in writing outside the sanctuary of the Temples of Baal. {Entering Security Agreement with one "Vessel" or "Transmitting Utilities", Recording a UCC-1 Form with Addendum and Recording Twenty-one Silver Dollar Surety Bond beforehand for starters, followed by "Acceptance for Value" and then "Return for Cause under lawful Protest without Recourse", Abatement, and Petition for Bill of Particulars or More Definitive Statement are all good steps to secure one's freedom prior to Arraignment. Accepting RE-presentation, Appearing (Except by SPECIAL PRESENCE), stating ones name on or for the Record, or entering PLEA are sure losers. Never state one 'Nom de guerre' or name, NEVER. A case must be won prior to or at Arraignment.} There are two things, which these DEVILS cannot do to their victims; they cannot arraign or sentence anyone who is without RE-presentation. RE-present means to present as something other than as self. Once one enters, the sharks and lions are sure to pounce on their victim.

Basically, it works this way the Black Robed Devil send the Gestapo out to pickup the "Trust", "Vessel", Transmitting Utility or so-called "Straw man". The Gestapo finds you at the appointed address, you identity or accuse self and the Gestapo seizes you as the Fiduciary. They then take you, the Fiduciary, before the administrative magistrate, who CONS or coerces you into becoming the Surety. Does recording of the Commercial Paper in the above paragraph begin to make sense?

"...(A)n attorney [THE COURT'S JESTER] occupies a dual position which imposes dual obligations." His first duty is to the courts [THE BLACK ROBED DEVIL WHO IS GOING TO PUT YOU AWAY or EXTORT FROM YOU AS MUCH AS HE CAN POSSIBLY TAKE.] and the public [THE STATE], not the client [A FOOL'S FOOL], and wherever the duties to his client conflict with those he owes as an officer of the court in the administration of justice, the former must yield to the latter." - 7 CJS ? 4. "Clients are also called 'wards of the courts' in regard to their relationship with their attorneys." - 7 CJS ? 2. "Wards of court. Infants and persons of unsound mind. Davis' Committee v. Loney, 290 Ky. 644, 162 S.W. 2d 189, 190." - Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Ed. ALL ATTORNEYS AND JUDGES HAVE AN ATTORNEY ON RETAINER TO REPRESENT THEM; THEREFORE THEY ARE ALL PERSONS OF UNSOUND MINDS. THIS IS MADNESS, BUT IT IS THEIR LAW.

Florida Rules of Court - "RULES GOVERNING UNLICENSED PRACTICE OF LAW" "RULE 10-1.1 GENERALLY (a) Pursuant to the provisions of article V, sec 15, of the Florida Constitution, the Supreme Court of Florida has inherent jurisdiction to prohibit the unlicensed practice of law. All references herein to "the Court" shall mean the Supreme Court of Florida. (b) Definition of UPL The unlicensed practice of law, as prohibited by statute, court rule, and case law of the State of Florida." Where is a copy of the state attorney's and the judge's license? DEMAND A COPY TO BE ENTERED ON RECORD. Neither of them will be able to produce a copy. They are corporate fictions, artificial entities. Also, secure a certified copy of the judges oath of office and place a copy, thereof, into court record. Judges are supposed to have a Surety Bond posted; however, most today, have not posted a Surety Bond and some have not even bothered to record a oath.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other." - Matt. 6:24 Present (not RE-present) yourself a living, holy and acceptable sacrifice unto Yah, The Creator" - Romans 12:1; note the presentment is to Creator and not some Black Robed Devil. "Father forgive them not, since they know what they do." - Luke 23:34.
"For there is one mediator between the Creator and men, the man, Jahshua Messiah." - I Tim. 2:5 "We write unto you, that you abstain from pollutions of idols." - Acts 15:20 "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." - Rev. 18:4 "Little children, keep yourselves from idols [false deities, demons]. Amen." - I John 5:21 "Choose you this day whom you will serve." - Joshua 24:15 "If you confess me, Yahshua, before men, I will confess you before Yah, the Father." - Matthew 10:32

Seen it in Utah said...

SOP:

As an attorney, I can tell you that crap in your last post was a pile of dung. I am simply amazed at the garbage you pour into this blog...day after day after day. You must be unemployed and have LOTS of time on your hands.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Didn't Seen it in Utah say months ago he was in the mortgage/title industry? Which is it SIIU?

ticktoc said...

We have a saying around my area. "Never trust someone who says- trust me. And if he starts talking about Jesus, grab your wallet & run"
This constant religious drooling really doesn't help but to create negativity to the program.
Religion is an addiction - it's a form of insanity if taken too far.

son of a prophet said...

'As an attorney, I can tell you that......(m)y pockets are already lined with gold, and you shouldnt expect me to say anything else, as I have already sold my soul to Baal'.....

WillToFight said...

The Swami said...
Didn't Seen it in Utah say months ago he was in the mortgage/title industry? Which is it SIIU?

9:33 PM

We stopped seeing credibility in what SeenItInUtah says months ago!

A slime mold is about all he is!

Solvo said...

WillToFight said...
The Swami said...
Didn't Seen it in Utah say months ago he was in the mortgage/title industry? Which is it SIIU?

A virus of the worst type!

IamfreeinChrist said...

Habbakuk, Are you ashamed to write GOD out in full? Or is the "o" key on your board broken? Obviously it is not. Why then do you not spell out God? It's offensive when you do not. Your writing might be more credible as a believer if you spelled it out.

son of a prophet said...

what happen to that neodemic guy.

his site is down.

the a-turn-e's must have got to him.

lol!

habakkuk said...

iamfreeinchrist,

Well, I cant say that i have a full explination why because i am still learning from Jewish origins why they do not write "GOD". Basically, G-d's name is not "GOD". "GOD"is like some universal title for a "supreme being". Heres a short commentary i read from a Messianic site that explains:

"According to Jewish Orthodox tradition, the Sacred Name is not to be uttered and accordingly, the form "G-d " is used in writing or printing. In place of pronouncing the Sacred Name in prayer, worship and discussion, the form "Adonai" (the Hebrew for 'Lord') is used."

I'm not trying to offend anybody by typing G-d. If anything i'm trying hard not to offend G-d Himself by not giving him some worldly, generic title.

Its like the name JESUS. You hear it in Chrisitian churches. I grew up in church using that name. Sometimes i still do for reference purposes. Heres another commentary on that i just read:

"It is most proper to call Him Yeshua. It was indeed his proper name, given to him by his parents, and only in Hebrew does this name have any meaning. In Hebrew Yeshua means both "Salvation," and the concatenated form of Yahoshua, is "Lord who is Salvation." The name Jesus has no intrinsic meaning in English whatsoever."

So there you have it.....My explination.

son of a prophet said...

"The name Jesus has no intrinsic meaning in English whatsoever."








...why I have been referring to

the Messiah as Yeshua all along....

Seen it in Utah said...

Funny...anyone who doesn't fall for your idiocy hook, line and sinker is a moron. Oh well. Perhaps we will be reading about some of you later...maybe you will also be be visiting the graybar hotel. For a while. Looks like the end is nigh.

For the record, a person can be both an attorney an a title company officer.

WillToFight said...

Loose Change Second Edition - No trace of Flight 77 at the Pentagon Russ Wittenburg, a certified Air Force pilot who flew two of the planes ... Loose Change 2nd Edition. Are we supposed to believe that it disappeared into ...

www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

WillToFight said...

UTAH someday you will wake up!

Everytime you see something that might help your lie, you slither out of the wood work.

Remember, Inocent until PROVEN guilty = Banks/FEDS must show proof of any wrong doing = they would have to bring in documents like Notes/accounting etc, etc. to prove their case = NOT

son of a prophet said...

seen it on tv said....


'....maybe you will also be be visiting the graybar hotel. For a while. Looks like the end is nigh.'



we are all already in a type of 'graybar hotel'

you life has already been bought and sold.


if you put a guinea pig in a big enuf enclosed pen, he thinks he is free.

youre right about one thng tho,

yes, the end is nigh alright, but it has abslolutely nothing to do with the DG or mtg elim process.

WillToFight said...

http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm

look for yourself. If you don't get it you don't get it!

Who made this up?

son of a prophet said...

yea, keep wurrying about what happen to the DG, all the while the pheds sell out you ports..hehehehehehhe....




but you just keep the focus on the DG and the trial....the govt. just loves you till they come after you kids and g-kids.... and they know you too stupid to belive its a conspircy, so they laff while they keep selling you out....


when s**t blow up, the pheds can say at lest they got the DG out of business....hehehehehehehe!! to much!

that and a mtg. will get you another house....lol!

as the end is nigh, the truth will be exposed and those who dont know it are going to be in for a big surprise!

but like it say, if you dum, you sufer.....

yeahrightwhateverz said...

For the sake of the people who believe the bullshit spewed from the mouth of The False Prophet - SOAP, Here is an excerpt to debunk SOAPs false prophecies that The End is Near...

GODS WORD!
Matthew 24:3 and as He, (that is Jesus) sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately saying, tell us, WHEN shall these things be? ….. and, WHAT shall be the SIGN of thy coming, AND the end of the world?
The disciples asked, three distinct questions, we will then look at each one to see how Jesus answered them. If we will then be honest with ourselves, we can see the absurdity today of this teaching of the "secret rapture" theory! The disciples asked simple questions, and received simple answers. Jesus first stated, before answering their questions directly. TAKE HEED THAT NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. If it were not possible to be deceived on this all important issue, Jesus would not have said so!

DECEPTION!
Jesus said: many shall come in my name, AND SHALL DECEIVE MANY! Not just a few, but MANY! They are doing it today on television beyond belief. And, to supposedly Bible believing Christians! Jesus did not want his disciples to be deceived, as to His return! We must not misinterpet the teaching on the Second coming of Christ. I have been in Churches lately, where the prophecies come forth like rain! One Pastor gave this prophecy often, in the last few months: I'M COMING SOON! I'M COMING SOON, the Pastor would say, with head bowed low in apparent great reverance. Assuming that it was Jesus, that was (supposed to be speaking), through the Pastor, there was this great scriptural problem to deal with. Jesus said in Mark 13: 32 that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.

If you would like to continue reading this article, you can go here:

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/
jesusreturn.htm

SO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FALSE PROPHET AND QUIT SPREADING YOUR VENOM HERE AND STAY ON TOPIC FUCK FACE!!!

habakkuk said...

yeahrightwhateverz said....

One Pastor gave this prophecy often, in the last few months: I'M COMING SOON! I'M COMING SOON, the Pastor would say, with head bowed low in apparent great reverance. Assuming that it was Jesus, that was (supposed to be speaking), through the Pastor, there was this great scriptural problem to deal with. Jesus said in Mark 13: 32 that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.

JUST BECAUSE PART OF THE MAN'S PROPHECY WAS "I'M COMING SOON DOESN'T MEAN HE WAS GOING AGAINST SCRIPTURE. THE SCRIPTURE SAYS "NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY NOR THE HOUR". BUT YESHUA DID ANSWER THE QUESTION WHEN HIS DISCIPLES ASKED:


WHEN shall these things be? ….. and, WHAT shall be the SIGN of thy coming, AND the end of the world?

SO MY FRIEND, GOD DOES TELL US TO WATCH THE SIGNS SO WE CAN BE PREPARED. AND "SOON" COULD MEAN 10 YEARS OR 100 TO GOD CAUSE HE DONT LIVE IN TIME, WE DO.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU TO A POINT....THERE IS A LOT OF "PROPHETS" OUT THERE SAYING "THUS SAITH THE lORD" BUT SOME OF THEM ARE OFF. THATS WHY YOU GOTTA HAVE THE SPIRIT OF YESHUA (HOLY SPIRIT) RESIDING INSINDE OF YOU SO YOU CAN JUDGE THE SPIRIT OF A MAN IF ITS THE HOLY SPIRIT OR THE MAN'S SPIRIT (BIG DIFFERENCE).

son of a prophet said...

noalwayswrongforever said....



"SO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FALSE PROPHET AND QUIT SPREADING YOUR VENOM HERE AND STAY ON TOPIC FUCK FACE!!!"




please, dun scar me lik tat, only the g can say thing like that....heeheheheheheee......


yu kas say what you want, it STILL ALL OVER MY FRIEND....heheheheheee.....

son of a prophet said...

Yeshua said.....

"...like when the leaves on the fig tree ripen, you know that summer is nigh...."



my freind, the fig tree is israel.

the leaves on the fig tree 'ripened' on may 14, 1948 when israel became a nation again.

thus the fig tree is ripe, summer is nigh and you will everyday from here on in see the s**t hit the fan. but if you put you head under the pillow, you wont see it, so for you, nothing is happening.

you head has been under the pillow for a long time now already. no need to change anything now....hehehehehehe.........



for a christian, no signs will be given....foe jewish non-believers, signs will be given, that is the meaning of the speach given by Yeshua known as the Olivet discourse.

otherwise there would be conflict; no one knows the day or the hour vs. the apostle asking 'when shall these things be'

as the pharisees (modern day lawywers) tried in vain to trap yeshua with questions, when one is given wisdom by the HS, one can continually 'solve' any trick question put to him.

one cannot be stumped. sorry.

son of a prophet said...

forgot to address one thing mentioned above'



yes, for christians there will be a rapture.

'...I will keep you from the hour of temptation that shall try all on the earth..."

"...for you were not appointed to wrath, but to salvation..."

and please dont give me verses trying to prove otherwise..

i will just plead that the versed given plus HS wisdon tell me what those verses mean. one either understands it, or one doesnt.

you will know them by their fruit said...

What a freak show



2 Timothy 4:3,4

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.

Yetter said...

We move closer to the melt down of the deciteful, fradulant pieces of financial paper that lurk in the shadow, ready and able to split the pants on the world financial system. In reaction to that the totally and entirely Republican Federal Reserve will inject liquidity at a rate never before witnessed.
The over the counter derivative are the instruments of mass financial destruction.
They are 1. Without regulation 2. without standarization 3. Without guarantees 4. Without transparecy 6. Without a bid and ask market, rather traded by negotiation 7. The primary vehicle for money laundry.8. The primary vehicle for tax adjusting. Ever heard of Enron and Refco? Guess where your missing promisory note went.

son of a prophet said...

all the while, you govt. sell you out.

first the ports; i know, the make belive they fight it off, but you go put it in the bank, the ports are gone, there sail will never be reverse.

also, CONgress right now in sessions to sell out the airlines to foreign govts. dont bleeve it? just wiat a months or 2, it will came out then.

face it, the NWO or called it 'globalism' just another word for 'sold out' like when you put you sign on you house say 'fo sail'

same thin here.

'amerika fo sail'

everthins is 4 sail.

soon u 2 b 4 sail, jus waight an C.

i tole you it all over sooon.

IamfreeinChrist said...
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tcob247 said...

SOP

WARNING! WARNING!



It has been discovered that BIRD FLU attacks small cocks first .



I felt it necessary to warn you immediately

Peanut Gallery said...

SOP said,

and please dont give me verses trying to prove otherwise..


Yeah, because you would not be able to defend your misinterpreted rapture crap.

son of a prophet said...

pg said....



"Yeah, because you would not be able to defend your misinterpreted rapture crap."



thats ok, your welcome to stay my friend when the ac comes to power.


seeing as you will still be here, why don you say hello to him for me....lol!


enjoy you stay with the ac....maybe he forgive you mortgage for you....heheheheheee....

yeahrightwhateverz said...

SOAP BOX, I know you are slow and you need things spelled out for you. You have a comprehension problem which leads me to think you suffer from A.D.D. I feel compelled to have to remind you what Jesus said in Mark 13:32 that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.

This does NOT mean SON of a false-prophet. You are confused. You need psychiatric help. Quit speaking like you have some authority to speak for GOD, FALSE PROPHET. Go start your own blog asshole.

son of a prophet said...

apparently you have ADD...

when did i say that i knew the day or the hour....


and those verses are not correct now..youre telling me that Yeshua in heaven now, doesnt know the day or the hour??

and what about the apostle asking Yeshua 'when shall these things be?'


my freind, tell me where it says that you cannot know the season?


you cant see whats happening in the world?

you might not be able to see, but i sure bet that you can feel the noose tightening around you neck.

care to guess why?

because we all have a date with the apocalypse soon.

now dont go cryin' to mommy....lol

yeahrightwhateverz said...

SOAP BOX, I know you are slow and you need things spelled out for you. You have a comprehension problem which leads me to think you suffer from A.D.D. I feel compelled to have to remind you what Jesus said in Mark 13:32 that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.

Oh I see, now YOU have re-written the gospel and now have first hand knowledge of events that only GOD knows. YOU are a fuckin loonatic and need help. Immediately go find your nearest loony-bin and check yourself in dipshit.

Have you had a NDE recently?

yeahrightwhateverz said...

The WORD according to Son of a false prophet.

Here is a parable for you SOAP BOX: I can cut and paste shit all day long that says one thing. You can cut and past shit (which you do quite frequently) all day long that says another, who is right?

Yetter said...

I get so fired up when I read articles like I just saw in the Bloomberg site concerning the fradulent over the counter deravitives which they define as "swaps" and the insane amount of money being made by brokerage firms over this mountain of hot air poised to destroy this once great country of ours, in which our fradulently gained mortgages are helping to facilitate even higher levels of fraud.Any one here that thinks that this about Kurt and Scott have there heads so far up there ass to be clueless, What about it judge dredd, 777, Utah, are you the problem or the solution? Remember when GE made toasters? They are now one of the most powerful elements in the otc market.What a web of deceitful transactions that has been woven into this temple of money changer economy we all live in. May God help us all.

son of a prophet said...

you can say what you want to while each day you govt. is selling you out (and you kids and g-kids too1)


thats what its all about my friend...


youll see it when it happens...



so, i have become the lighthening rod to take the heat off the DG and direct it at me....no problem.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

Oh I see, you are now a martyr? Can you answer my parable SOAP BOX?

son of a prophet said...

so, we back to playing a-turn-e's again???

you have not posited a parable but have posed a question....


"who is right?"

to which i would respond, who is right about what?

to which i do not have to wait for a reply as i can give the universal answer which you aleready know....


Yeshua HaMashiach is right; "the TRUTH, THE WAY AND THE LIFE."

and this manifests itself as i have previously written...we can argue, debate, discuss etc. but that and some coins will get you a hot cup of coffee as the govts of the world continue to put the final pieces of the nwo in place whihc will enslave us all. makes no diff what either of us thinks...our apt with destiny is proceeding on schedule and satan knows his time grows short....but they say there is nothing worse than a cornered animal; (or worse, cornered devil)

Peanut Gallery said...

SOP said,
enjoy you stay with the ac....maybe he forgive you mortgage for you....heheheheheee....


Maybe Yeshua will forgive you for bastardising His Word, and not following what He commanded. You had better pray He will. LOL

yeahrightwhateverz said...

SOAP BOX, ah, but you are wrong again. Here lets start from the beginning; Parable: a short narrative that illustrates a moral, philosophical or spiritual lesson.

Moving along, hope Im not going too fast for you. Here is your lesson SOAP BOX, you can spew all the shit that you want but unless you have first hand knowledge and have spoken to GOD personally and GOD blessed you with the ability to create miracles, then you aint got nothin. So step off your high horse and quit frontin that you somehow have first hand knowledge. Not ONE human knows what, when, where, how and why and you wont until you die. Just because you read something on the internet doesnt mean its true (contrary to what Al Gore says).

Now on to your claim about the government, what are you doing about it SOAP BOX besides posting your cut and paste bullshit here riding coat tails? What, you feel you can save America by cutting and pasting this shit? Thanks but no thanks. Stick to the issues like why havent clients received their damages. Why FMT has about 300 plus UCC documents and how much money they were able to create out of thin air from these documents while folks lost their homes.

Come on SOAP BOX, do some research on why Kurt hasnt kept one of his promises for a free and clear mortgage, or why clients havent received their damages, or why the deadline keeps moving 2 or 3 months into the future. Oh, according to Captn Kurt, once the Feds drop the charges, they will be able to market more vaporware paper to their international suitors. Hmm, well if that were true, then that certainly wont happen for many months. Unless thats what they mean when they say its going to happen real soon. The CROW is still squakin and is far from being dead.

neodemes said...

All this heated and hateful bickering over The Word is pretty distasteful.

I suggest you all reflect on His greatest commandment, and chill.

neodemes said...

Correction:

I was actually referring to the second greatest commandment.

Matthew 22:36-40

you will know them by their fruit said...

For SOP and Hab

THE "STATE" OF IDAHO: THE CASE FOR OPEN DEBATE
----------------------------------------------

If you would ask any schoolchild how many states there are in the
United States, you will get the same answer: 50. Fifty states
in the Union. It is simply an accepted "fact." If you would
disagree with this supposed "fact," you would be branded insane
or worse.

However, mounting evidence shows that there are in fact only 49
states in the US, and the "state" of Idaho is a baseless myth.

We have been trying to distribute and publish this information
for over *two years*, but our scholarship has not been given
any respect. We have been censored, vilified, ridiculed and
spat upon by the "traditional" geographers and historians, but
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

All we ask is that the existence of the state of Idaho be debated,
as every other historical and geographic "fact" can be debated.
Time after time, our opponents have refused to debate us on the
FACTS. This alone should tell you something about the people who
support the "existence" of this "43rd state."

Please read the following evidence VERY CAREFULLY, and you will
be astonished at the veracity of our cause.

THE POPULATION MYTH

Do you know anybody from Idaho? Do you know anybody *who knows
anybody* from Idaho? According to the 1990 "census," there are
over one million (1,000,000, or 1 x 10^6) people living in
Idaho. But if there are so many Idahoers, where are they?

Some people have come forward and claimed that they were born
and raised in "Idaho." But *every single person* who made this
claim have been shown to be frauds and charlatans. These "Idahoan
wannabes" are invariably inconsistent with each other about the
size (in square miles or square kilometers) of "Idaho," about
various town and village names, and even about the names
of "Idaho's mighty rivers."

THE SIZE FARCE

According to traditional geographic sources (created entirely
by people who believe in the existence of Idaho, and probably
the Tooth Fairy, also) the "State" of Idaho is more than twice
the size of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island,
Connecticut and Massachusetts *combined.* Isn't it strange
that a state with such vast land resources has so few people?
And even of you look at a map (created by the Idaho-centric
cartographers) the "State" of "Idaho" is dwarfed by its much
larger neighbor, Montana.

SATELLITE EVIDENCE

Recently declassified weather satellite information, showing
the entire continental United States, shows absolutely *no
evidence* that there is any state where "Idaho" is supposedly
located. Noted experts in the field of interpreting these
pictures unanimously agree that, from outer space, it is
impossible to determine the borders of this elusive "state."
Yet meteorologists and cartographers routinely overlay
these satellite pictures with the outline of states that
would seem to indicate Idaho's existence.

PHOTOGRAPHIC "EVIDENCE"

Many people, skeptical of the clear evidence that Idaho
does not and never did exist, point to photographs that
they've seen in encyclopedias and postcards seeming to show
parts of the state of Idaho.

It is important to note that a photograph without a caption
is often meaningless. A picture of people in boats surrounded
by mountains could have been taken in Colorado or Nevada,
but when the holy *caption* says that this is a picture of
the "Salmon River" in "Idaho," gullible readers tend to
swallow this information whole *without any further
examination.*

We have examined literally hundreds of these "photographs,"
and the ones that are not outright fakes are all clearly
taken in other parts of the nation.

ASK THE JAPANESE

It is well known that Americans are woefully ignorant about
geography, which is one reason why it is so easy to fake an
entire state here. Not surprisingly, most of the effort to
create the illusion of Idaho has been expended in the USA.

But if you would ask a typical Japanese or French schoolchild
about what he/she knows about Idaho, you will usually get a
blank stare. People who are much better at geography than
Americans have never heard of this "great state."

THE POTATO MYTH

Any given supermarket in the United States has sacks of potatoes
clearly marked "Idaho Potatoes." People make the assumption,
that when they are buying these potatoes, that they were *grown*
in the "state" of "Idaho."

Actually, "Idaho" is a type of potato, just like "McIntosh" is
a type of apple. The FACT is that *many* states have potato
crops, as well as foreign countries, and potatoes that say
"Idaho" on them are no more from Idaho than Baltimore Orioles
all come from Maryland.

SO, WHAT'S THERE?

Nothing. THERE IS NOTHING THERE. We have been so brainwashed
by the traditional mapmaking community to think that if Idaho
doesn't exist, then there must be some sort of vacuum there
instead. This is nonsense.

The very shapes and positions of the states, and indeed of
every nation on the planet, is only known through "information"
provided by cartographers. It is akin to asking "if Santa's
house isn't at the North Pole, then what's there instead?"

THE CARTOGRAPHER CONSPIRACY

The *only evidence* that there is a state called Idaho comes from
maps. Everybody has maps, in almanacs, in encyclopedias, and
on the walls of every elementary school classroom in America.

Astonishingly, *over 99%* of all maps are created by *cartographers!*
If any clearly defined set of people would control any other
important industry to that degree, everybody would be up in arms
about the undue influence given to a meager few. However, for
some reason, Cartographers are immune to such criticism. Any
mention about the Cartographer influence over the mapmaking
industry (and, as a natural extension, OUR VERY THOUGHTS!) is
dismissed as "lunacy."

As an indication of how insidious is this influence, just think:
have you ever questioned a map? Maps, being graphical objects,
require much less effort to assimilate into our very psyches.
Behavioral studies show that people can much more readily understand
maps than printed descriptions of geographical areas; in fact,
the images on maps tend to go directly into the subconsciousness
of Man (Homo Sapiens) without the critical thinking that accompanies
reading. In a very real way, Cartographers are the *real* Thought
Police.

But they do not work in a vacuum. There are much too few of them
to do their real damage unaided. Mapmakers have conspired with the
editors of almanacs and encyclopedias to create a fantastic illusion
of space where there is none, people where there aren't any, and
ski resorts where none exist.

ONLY THE BEGINNING

This is only the tip of the iceberg. We have much more material
on this conspiracy, and we have yet to uncover one iota of evidence
that Idaho has ever existed. All of the so-called "evidence" is
a mixture of falsifications, coersions, lies and exaggerations.

The Cartographers would like nothing better than to silence us.
If you do not see any more postings on this subject, then you
have clear evidence that their Conspiracy of Silence on Idaho
has succeeded, and that Freedom of Speech has been curtailed by
the Cartographical Thought Police.

What can you do? All we ask is that you be open minded. Of course,
you cannot trust any of the second-hand evidence that you would
find in libraries, maps (!), airline schedules or street signs.
All you can trust is what we have written here. We are confident
that once you evaluate all of the valid evidence, you will be
angered by this conspiracy, and motivated to do something about
the scum who perpetated this hoax.

son of a prophet said...

for what its worth dept....


this selling of the ports issue is a ruse to deflect attention from something else...what that 'something else' is, is not clear at this time....but, make no mistake about it, we are being set up for something in the next month or two...and its not good....


they could have sold the ports and kept it secret, just like no one knew that the british owned the mgt. in the first place, so this debate and all is just a bunch of BS to hide something else...

Peanut Gallery said...

SOP said,
this selling of the ports issue is a ruse to deflect attention from something else...what that 'something else' is, is not clear at this time....but, make no mistake about it, we are being set up for something in the next month or two...and its not good....


Good, why don't you go back and hide under your bed again for the next month or two, so we don't have to read your idiot b.s. posts, you nimrod.

son of a prophet said...

if you think its all bs, dont worry, youll understand it all pretty soon.

see, we have all been given the truth, but in some its just buried deeper than others....

but, dun worry, as the noose begin to tighten around you neck, the truth will get squished out of you...but there is a price to pay for wiating so long....you wont be able to take advantage of knowing the truth, because the events it took for you to recognize the truth are going to exact a horrible toll on your body....(neck??)....blind resistance to the truth will shatter you when it finally hits you...

yeahrightwhateverz said...

SOAP BOX, what is the source for what you claim?

tcob247 said...

SOP said,
this selling of the ports issue is a ruse to deflect attention from something else...what that 'something else' is, is not clear at this time....but, make no mistake about it, we are being set up for something in the next month or two...and its not good....


HEY

SO LITTLE PP

Weren't you the one who said there would be a terrorist attack during the Super Bowl?

I bet your wife and kids just LOVE being around you

WillToFight said...

Number Of Iraqi Civilians Slaughtered In America's War? As Many As 250,000

Number of U.S. Military Personnel Slaughtered (Officially acknowledged) In America's War 2287
Cost of America's War in Iraq

$242,533,316,996

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

http://www.policestate21.com/beyondtreason.html

WillToFight said...

SO TACO

What Do you do at your house.

Play "hEAD iN The Sand"?

What a game!

tcob247 said...

what is your point Willie?

Elmer Fudd said...

http://www.rei-resource.com/dorean/superceding_ind.pdf

Elmer Fudd said...

http://www.rei-resource.com/dorean/farrel_penalty.pdf

neodemes said...

Adios, Farrel

http://www.ccresource.net/forum/

tcob247 said...

Kinda hard to drive that Mercedes while you are doing 30 years with Captain Kurt

Hope it was worth it big bad Farrel

WillToFight said...

Yetter said...

I get so fired up when I read articles like I just saw in the Bloomberg site concerning the fradulent over the counter deravitives which they define as "swaps" and the insane amount of money being made by brokerage firms over this mountain of hot air poised to destroy this once great country of ours.

HEY YETTER I could not say that BETTER!

Solvo said...

tcob247 said...

Kinda hard to drive that Mercedes while you are doing 30 years with Captain Kurt

Hope it was worth it big bad Farrel

Here you Idiots go again. Posting what you do not have fact of!

I just talked with Farrel this morning.

What do you all think they will be able to convict Farrel of? I will say a big fat NOTHING!

TACO go back to play your HEAD IN THE SAND game the Will talked about and you don't get!

WillToFight said...

neodemes said...
All this heated and hateful bickering over The Word is pretty distasteful.

I suggest you all reflect on His greatest commandment, and chill.


Screw Off NeodomenesF***Face! Your a hypocrit and have No Credibility here.

WillToFight said...

Yetter said...
We move closer to the melt down of the deciteful, fradulant pieces of financial paper that lurk in the shadow, ready and able to split the pants on the world financial system. In reaction to that the totally and entirely Republican Federal Reserve will inject liquidity at a rate never before witnessed.
The over the counter derivative are the instruments of mass financial destruction.
They are 1. Without regulation 2. without standarization 3. Without guarantees 4. Without transparecy 6. Without a bid and ask market, rather traded by negotiation 7. The primary vehicle for money laundry.8. The primary vehicle for tax adjusting. Ever heard of Enron and Refco? Guess where your missing promisory note went.

Just Impressive YETTER! Where have you been?

KnuckleHeads Like TACO should listen to your words.

TACO the above is why this process is so important. When will you wake up?

WillToFight said...

Toledo Terrorists and Government Entrapment
Manufacturing the facade that Al-Qaeda is in your backyard

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | February 24 2006

News that a federal grand jury has indicted three Toledo-area men for terrorist activities has stoked alarmist headlines warning of Al-Qaeda cells waiting to strike inside America.

It is no surprise that the indictment names an informant called "The Trainer," who has U.S. military background in security, and bodyguard training.

In every major case the so-called terrorist group has a handler that is tied to the US government and its intelligence arms.

son of a prophet said...

...the sellout continues...looks like they were wrong about the sellout of only 6 ports....looks now like its 21!...wonder if they will just soon come out and just say that amerika itself was sold out....which most of us know already....as staunch repubs are turning to the Dems, it looks like this may be the reason after all...to get shillary in for '08

tcob247 said...

"I just talked with Farrel this morning.

What do you all think they will be able to convict Farrel of? I will say a big fat NOTHING!"

Of course he said that
Its not suprising is it
I'm sure Kaurt has said the same thing
LOL
They now will be saying the same thing together in jail

"TACO go back to play your HEAD IN THE SAND game"


Tell you what.

I will play my "head in the sand game" whille living free with my family enjoying the benefits living in America has.

And Kurt, Scott, Farrel et. al. can play their " head out of the sand game" in JAIL!!!!!!

Feel free to join them

son of a prophet said...

Yeshua said.....


"....the mytery of lawlessness doth already at work..."


looks like that where we are ultimately heading-total lawlessness which will spread around the globe. of course, thats exactly what the PTB want...'order from chaos'...so they can brng in the ac..


On the road to the Rubicon



Masha Lipman

Semantic arguments may not seem relevant when innocent people are dying in appalling circumstances, as more than 130 Iraqis now have been, many of them dragged from their cars and gunned down in cold blood, since Sunni insurgents blew up a Shia shrine in the city of Samarra on Wednesday. But at what point does the intensifying sectarian violence of recent months become a fully-fledged "civil war" -- a phrase which is taken as a sort of terminological Rubicon beyond which everything will be different? Has it now been reached? And if so, what are the implications for the US and Britain. Is their presence making things worse, or would it be even worse without them?

As the blood flows there is no mistaking the panic in Washington and London, as well as Baghdad, where President Jalal Talabani appealed for calm and unity in the face of the Samarra provocation. George Bush and Tony Blair both called for restraint. Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad blamed the attack and its consequences on them and "Zionists" who had "failed in the face of Islam's logic and justice" -- a charge which shows how gravely the Iraq war and occupation has poisoned relations between the west and Muslim countries.

For the insurgents, the destruction of the Askari mosque has served its purpose: it makes it harder for the Shia prime minister, Ibrahim al-Ja'afari, to construct a government which includes Sunni politicians, as the US and Britain have been urging him to do. Without such a government, a split on the ethnic and sectarian lines that emerged from the December election seems inevitable. But the term "civil war", chillingly familiar from Lebanon in the 1970s or Algeria in the 1990s, is too neat: Iraq is embroiled in a war of all against all, supercharged mayhem in which Shia militias fight each other; the Kurds have a fully-fledged army; al-Qaeda and foreign jihadis work with Ba'athists and armed criminals run rackets. The road ahead leads to warlordism and anarchy.

US troops continue to kill and be killed, but like the far smaller British forces spend as much time defending themselves as fighting or helping Iraqis. British army morale has plummeted amid resentment of a culture of dependency by the Iraqi police and security forces. Still, training continues and the US-UK presence includes an element of restraint, of holding the ring that sudden withdrawal would remove: the scandal of Shia militiamen torturing Sunni prisoners in Baghdad was unearthed by the US. In cities like Mosul the police would be thrown out in days and ethnic cleansing would follow if American troops left. If there is to be an Iraqi government with any capacity for governing, it needs both cajoling and supporting. That is the reality behind rhetoric about not cutting and running before "the job is done".

Set against that is the argument that the occupation is a powerful magnet for extremists, as well as both a unifying force and raison d'etre for the insurgency. End the occupation, or at least set out a strategy and timetable for ending it with Iraqi oversight, as this paper has advocated, and the men with guns will give way to politicians seeking a post-Saddam accommodation. Plans for UN-mandated peacekeepers from Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Turkey could be revived. If Iraq collapses into a vortex of violence, there will be urgent new calls for foreign intervention to save lives.

Despite yesterday's horrors, it is right to call for restraint, to hope that the Rubicon has not been crossed and that Iraqis can pull back from this brink. Options, though, are shrinking: plans set out just a few weeks ago -- for political dialogue, staged troop withdrawals and talks with insurgents who apparently cannot be beaten -- will now be far harder to implement. The US and Britain want to be able to bring their boys home after what so many consider to have been a disastrous war. But the time for such simple solutions has long passed.



The Guardian

son of a prophet said...

major west coast event imminent??

http://www.weatherwars.info
/index.php?news_id=47

Solvo said...

neodemes said...
Adios, Farrel

http://www.ccresource.net/forum/

Who do you think had the site taken down, mullet?

WillToFight said...

TCO247 said....

I will play my "head in the sand game" whille living free with my family enjoying the benefits living in America has.

Your Idiotness, This place will be called the Republic of China or UAE before it's over. Better learn to speak Chinese or Arab!

You just don't get it TACO

neodemes said...

Solvo said...
neodemes said...
Adios, Farrel

http://www.ccresource.net/forum/

Who do you think had the site taken down, mullet?

*****

You tell me, Ferret.

You in the can, yet?

tcob247 said...

OH, I "get it" asshole
Fuck you and your ANTI- American rhetoric

Keep on spouting your fucking idiotic conspiracy theories

Are are a joke

You and SOP can go butt fuck each other while worrying about us being turned into the republic of China

Assholes
So you are the supporters of the convicts? (one time convicted, soon to be twice)

Have a great 2006 hiding under your bed while the US terrorsist govt reins down its death and desruction on the American paople

LOL
idiots

ricco7777 said...

Congressman Ron Paul exposes the fraud that Kurt and Scott are being held hostage for! He starts out with:
The site link is below for the rest of the story.

The End of Dollar Hegemony

A hundred years ago it was called “dollar diplomacy.” After World War II, and especially after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, that policy evolved into “dollar hegemony.” But after all these many years of great success, our dollar dominance is coming to an end.

It has been said, rightly, that he who holds the gold makes the rules. In earlier times it was readily accepted that fair and honest trade required an exchange for something of real value.

First it was simply barter of goods. Then it was discovered that gold held a universal attraction, and was a convenient substitute for more cumbersome barter transactions. Not only did gold facilitate exchange of goods and services, it served as a store of value for those who wanted to save for a rainy day.

Though money developed naturally in the marketplace, as governments grew in power they assumed monopoly control over money. Sometimes governments succeeded in guaranteeing the quality and purity of gold, but in time governments learned to outspend their revenues. New or higher taxes always incurred the disapproval of the people, so it wasn’t long before Kings and Caesars learned how to inflate their currencies by reducing the amount of gold in each coin-- always hoping their subjects wouldn’t discover the fraud. But the people always did, and they strenuously objected.

This helped pressure leaders to seek more gold by conquering other nations. The people became accustomed to living beyond their means, and enjoyed the circuses and bread. Financing extravagances by conquering foreign lands seemed a logical alternative to working harder and producing more. Besides, conquering nations not only brought home gold, they brought home slaves as well. Taxing the people in conquered territories also provided an incentive to build empires. This system of government worked well for a while, but the moral decline of the people led to an unwillingness to produce for themselves. There was a limit to the number of countries that could be sacked for their wealth, and this always brought empires to an end. When gold no longer could be obtained, their military might crumbled. In those days those who held the gold truly wrote the rules and lived well.

The End of Dollar Hegemony

A hundred years ago it was called “dollar diplomacy.” After World War II, and especially after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, that policy evolved into “dollar hegemony.” But after all these many years of great success, our dollar dominance is coming to an end.

It has been said, rightly, that he who holds the gold makes the rules. In earlier times it was readily accepted that fair and honest trade required an exchange for something of real value.

First it was simply barter of goods. Then it was discovered that gold held a universal attraction, and was a convenient substitute for more cumbersome barter transactions. Not only did gold facilitate exchange of goods and services, it served as a store of value for those who wanted to save for a rainy day.

Though money developed naturally in the marketplace, as governments grew in power they assumed monopoly control over money. Sometimes governments succeeded in guaranteeing the quality and purity of gold, but in time governments learned to outspend their revenues. New or higher taxes always incurred the disapproval of the people, so it wasn’t long before Kings and Caesars learned how to inflate their currencies by reducing the amount of gold in each coin-- always hoping their subjects wouldn’t discover the fraud. But the people always did, and they strenuously objected.

This helped pressure leaders to seek more gold by conquering other nations. The people became accustomed to living beyond their means, and enjoyed the circuses and bread. Financing extravagances by conquering foreign lands seemed a logical alternative to working harder and producing more. Besides, conquering nations not only brought home gold, they brought home slaves as well. Taxing the people in conquered territories also provided an incentive to build empires. This system of government worked well for a while, but the moral decline of the people led to an unwillingness to produce for themselves. There was a limit to the number of countries that could be sacked for their wealth, and this always brought empires to an end. When gold no longer could be obtained, their military might crumbled. In those days those who held the gold truly wrote the rules and lived well.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm

For the rest of the story!

son of a prophet said...

"But after all these many years of great success, our dollar dominance is coming to an end."



Just remember, the dollar is at an end and going to take a fall, not because of its own doing, but because it is being planned that it b e that way.

just like the selling out of america, it is also being planned to happen.

all these keyboard 'tough guys' will be the first to cry to their mommas when the SS comes get them; or worse if a forign country rules here thru an occpuation.

i wanna see what all these fake tough guys do then. make sure they have plenty of immodium x-stregnth because they will need it.

the dogs that bark the most, rarely bite and usually run away if you scare them.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

And fuckin pussys like you who have no life outside the internet come and spam blogs with your own personal propaganda and agenda bullshit when all along you are a social derelict and most likely an online pedophile.

Come on pussy, show me the source of your so called prophetic (pathetic) authority. Afraid someones gonna find out you are a false prophet? Cut-n-paste queen who believes everything it reads on the internet. BOO!

son of a prophet said...

heheheheee...

the only place that you could get away with speaking as you do is the internet, because you have described exactly what YOU are.

but, keep on writin'....

you notice that i dont really respond to much of what you or anyone else who writes like you in here; you cant annoy me....

as i am at a physical AND spiritual level way beyond your comprehension and realize pitifully that you can only operate at the level of consciousness that you are given...

but enjoy using your 6th grade infantile language if it makes you feel good about yourself..... ;-)

heheheheee.......

neodemes said...

Your link was broken, ricco.

It should be http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm

Note that Paul won't be arrested for speaking out.

Nor would the Doreanites.

They aren't in the can for exposing fraud.

They are in the can for bilking folks out of big bucks by promoting a successful process that wasn't successful, and filing bogus paperwork that created the illusion of clear title.

Hey, yeahright, the best thing to do with SOP is scroll on past and ignore him.

He just likes the negative attention.

neodemes said...

Your link was broken, ricco.

It should be http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm

Note that Paul won't be arrested for speaking out.

Nor would the Doreanites.

They aren't in the can for exposing fraud.

They are in the can for bilking folks out of big bucks by promoting a successful process that wasn't successful, and filing bogus paperwork that created the illusion of clear title.

Hey, yeahright, the best thing to do with SOP is scroll on past and ignore him.

He just likes the negative attention.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

SOAP BOX, the reason you dont respond is because you havent got an original thought to respond with. Yeah, superior intellect, highly blessed by God... Stop, people are laughing at you now. Your on fuckin drugs.

Why dont you offer some REAL answers for those who are homeless now cause of this process? Or better yet, when will the website be up and the claim forms ready. Or better yet, how much longer until us clients can get paid to put our familys back in a home and so that we dont have to come here everyday to be subjected to your cut-n-paste, off topic bullshit spam rants?

So tell me tough guy, when the boogie man comes in whichever flavor you claim it will, what are YOU going to do about it, be our savior with your sorry ass bullshit?

Peanut Gallery said...

Son of an idiot said,

Yeshua said.....


"....the mytery of lawlessness doth already at work..."


looks like that where we are ultimately heading-total lawlessness which will spread around the globe. of course, thats exactly what the PTB want...'order from chaos'...so they can brng in the ac..



Hey nimrod, what do you think Yeshua's definition of lawlessness was? It had nothing to do with mans laws, he was talking about breaking Gods law(Torah)which idiots like you think were done away with.

So much for your higher spirituality. LOL

tcob247 said...

so little pp says

"as i am at a physical AND spiritual level way beyond your comprehension"

Is that why you cut and paste?

I know why you dont have your own Blog....
Cause NOBODY would read it.

The Holy Spirit told me you were an asshole.
He only speaks to me because I am spiritually advanced


Hey......so what are YOU going to do when the Communists take over?
What will all this knowlege do for you?

Is there a cut and paste heaven?
Cause I think you might make it
(You'll be the only one there)

yeahrightwhateverz said...

To further debunk this false prophet, this is what SOAP BOX said back in November:

I quite unexpectedly received a chat this morning from a gentleman from outside of the USA who belongs to an organization of apparently great power and one of their endeavors is righting wrongs done by governments. They have jurisdiction in many different countries he says. Im still not sure why he chose me to converse with. I guess it was because he knew I was the liason between you and Randy and to suggest for me to try and help out for just a little while so his wife an kids have groceries until this is all cleared up. It goes to show you we are being watched by many we are not even aware of and the name of the game is to keep your nose clean. If the holy spirit is within you, you do that anyway because of your love for the Saviour, not because you feel you have to. Its part of the sanctification process. Anyway, this guy tells me that Randy has been dealt a great wrong, they have been investigating this case and that charges against him were simply not true and they are going to clean up this mess, and soon, perhaps by the end of this month. He says you may see reimbursements as soon as mid Dec instead of a year from now, and they probably wont be coming from any receiver. He wouldnt tell me exactly who they were and told me I could not share much of our communication with you but to let you know there is light at the end of the tunnel, this thing is taking a turn for the positive, and that they ARE taking care of this injustice behind the scenes. I WAS able to communicate with Randy today afterwards to verify if what I had heard was true or it was just a hoax call of some kind. I get quite a few nasty emails over this item, calling me a low life and how I work for the devil and all. It was refreshing to get an uplifting communication for once. Randy told me it was true but he could not talk about it AT ALL. I havent seen him in such good spirits in a long time, especially considering the government has finally got him where they wanted him and confiscated or frozen every asset he owns. He said he had a prophetic dream or vision about this some time ago, that this is how it would all get resolved. You have to understand his history. His father is a pastor. He has done all these things with discernment and prayer. I have prayed with him over the phone. If he has a fault it is trusting other people who are not honest, especially upper echelon banking people. I know for a fact the things Crown Inc was funded into were legitimate businesses. I have a whole notebook full of the companies and what they did to make the money for us. Greed and theft of large sums of money is what this was all about. I dont think they are going to get away with it. They picked on the wrong person. Yahweh protects his people that do His will. Randy had several humanitarian projects underway these funds were needed for. He wasnt playing David Reed (Ive got an update on him too in this letter) and building mansions in Cancun with the money


So SOAP BOX, what ever happened to this sanctification process?

mogel said...

Yeahright: Speaking of the santification process, your quote about this Randy guy, who is the person that operated the program called "Crown", a high yield program, that stopped paying because assets were seized & investors were wondering when they were going to get paid. The person writing this quote is Berry Ball. The quote has nothing to do with the Dorean funding I'm sorry to say.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

Right, just debunking one of SOAP BOXs cut-n-paste theorys. BTW, glad to see your still around. Was getting a little worried that you dropped out.

yeahrightwhateverz said...

Speaking of which, where the hell is IMBIG O and all that CROW eating talk? Did he get early access to the claim form cause of all his support? Oh wait, naw he couldnt have, no one can get access to it without the website.

neodemes said...

mogel
said...

Yeahright: Speaking of the santification process, your quote about this Randy guy, who is the person that operated the program called "Crown", a high yield program, that stopped paying because assets were seized & investors were wondering when they were going to get paid. The person writing this quote is Berry Ball. The quote has nothing to do with the Dorean funding I'm sorry to say.

*****

There is a parallel, though.

Dorean has done squat to get money to its clients, too.

Not indicted yet, Byron?

Give it time.

Ed/WSOP said...

From Captain Kurt

Saturday, July 23, 2005
“All things are well”
The office is intact and still doing what needs to be done for the clients. Updates will still be given out both here and on the conference calls that are conducted on Mondays, Wednesdays, and twice on Thursdays. I shall gladly finish my task here, so please don’t panic, all is well and it shall get even better. This matter is just the remnants of the Utah, charges which are all but settled, thus my time here will be short, I am thinking not more then perhaps 30 days. There is a good chance that Scott will be getting out prior to me.

Clueless Fudd said...

Ed/WSOP said...
From Captain Kurt

Saturday, July 23, 2005
“All things are well”
The office is intact and still doing what needs to be done for the clients. Updates will still be given out both here and on the conference calls that are conducted on Mondays, Wednesdays, and twice on Thursdays. I shall gladly finish my task here, so please don’t panic, all is well and it shall get even better. This matter is just the remnants of the Utah, charges which are all but settled, thus my time here will be short, I am thinking not more then perhaps 30 days. There is a good chance that Scott will be getting out prior to me.

What does this have to do with anything dick-wad? Utah is over and this was prior to the federal case, fuck-face.

usarock said...

gospel according to Kurt


Sunday, October 09, 2005
We Are Close to the Finish
I have been in negotiations with the executives of the Feds, California and Utah. I am close to settling with all to put an end to this little charade. I would say about 85%. There are still a few terms left to come to agreement but I am very happy with the progress. Don’t worry, the prosecutors will be the last to know. They were just the puppets in a game way over their heads. Once finalized, they will be informed and have to act accordingly. The details of this settlement will appear on the disclosure webpage under the “client’s corner” section. Once you complete your paperwork, all credits supplied by you for our process will be returned. Please tell all clients to read this blog regularly for the future announcement. My gut feeling is about 2 more weeks to finalize the deal and 2 more weeks to set up the escrow account.

Tony Tuba said...

Do Canadian Banks Serve the People of Canada?
NOT IF THEY DEFRAUD US!!
LEARN MORE ABOUT
THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
The People v. The Banks
NOW PROCEEDING
In the Supreme Court of British Columbia
http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ AND
http://www.theclassactionsuit.com/index.html
YES!! YOU CAN JOIN THE CLASS ACTION!!
(See websites for details & join online


We need your support, let’s fill up the courtroom as we have always done. Those who cannot come, please pray for us. This is our fight. We cannot afford to lose this one. Let us show the corrupt courts and the banks that will no longer tolerate their deceptive practices.

Help us regain the equity that was stolen from us by the banks and their corrupt lawyers.

The class action suit “The People vs The Banks” is scheduled to be heard on February 27, 28 & March 1, 2006.

Time: 9:45 a.m.

Where: Supreme Court of British Columbia 800 Smithe Street, Vancouver, B.C.

When: February 27, 28 and March 1, 2006


For more information, please e-mail: classproceeding@yahoo.ca or thepeoplevsthebanks@yahoo.com or thepeoplevsthebanks@hotmail.com

“United we stand, divided we fall”

Please pass the information to friends and family

son of a prophet said...

....ya gotta love this one...




GET RICH QUICK!!!





1. The following steps are sequence of events that must occur to get your treaty established and enacted as the supreme law of the land.

a. Word process the Treaty for all of the correct information

b. Print the Treaty out, read it several times for correctness and MAKE SURE YOU DESIGNATE A THIRD PARTY RECEIVER WITH NAME AND ADDRESS, then get it notarized

c. Send the Treaty by registered mail, return receipt so you have proof that they received your Contract you are in the process of creating.

d. If you have not received a response in twenty (20) days, send Notice of Default and Entry of Assent to Contract allowing Respondents ten (10) additional days to respond.

e. Send the copies of the above documents to the Respondent(s) and keep the originals

f. After ten (10) additional days get take the Certificate of Assent to the THIRD PARTY RECEIVER and have them Notarize their signature.

g. Word process the NOTICE OF COMMERCIAL LIEN and notarize it

h. Take all of the Notices that you have done from the Treaty and arrange them in a package from the first on the bottom to the Certificate of Assent on the top.

i. Place the NOTICE OF COMMERCIAL LIEN on top of the package, copy the package, then staple the original together, then record the document at the County Recorder. Take the receipt of the recording, make a copy and send it along with the copy of the lien you just recorded to the Respondents.

j. File a UCC-1 Financing statement with SECRETARY OF STATE for your state, with John Snow US SECRETARY OF TREASURY as the DEBTOR,****** for $100 Billion,***

(no need to be greedy here, $10B would be fine, but this is what it says to do; geez, i could even buy my own blog server, heheheheheee!)


and you the CREDITOR and assign the security interest to a TRUST with you as BENEFICIARY, a third party as TRUSTEE and the DEBTOR (corporation) as GRANTOR/TRUSTOR. No documents need to be drawn up for the Trust and it does not need to be recorded - ANYWHERE - because it is a PRIVATE TRUST. You do not need to file all of the other notices with the UCC-1, but you do need to reference the county docket and page or filing number. The reason you use a trust is that it is a third party (like the banks use - such as a Title Company or a Reconveyance company) and therefore a witness if this is ever brought up in court. For reference look up UCC 1-202, and Blacks Dictionary under prima facie evidence. You will see that this cannot be refuted unless by other similar evidence.

k. Within a month after you recorded the COMMERCIAL LIEN, send Respondent, now as DEBTOR, a NOTICE OF DEBT COLLECTION giving them 30 additional days to pay you the amount of the lien. Notice them again in 60 days.


2. You now have a perfected lien that has been seasoned. You can do several things at this point;



3. You can deposit this lien in a bank as a Certificate of Deposit and get a whopping 4% annual interest rate



4. You could sell it for cash (at a discount) at anywhere from 25 - 90% of face value.



5. Keep the lien and pay for products you want, such as vehicles or real estate, by filing a UCC-3 as a partial assignment of the lien until you have used it up.



6. You could initiate involuntary bankruptcy where you have a forced sale of the Respondent’s property. This is the exact procedure the banks use to take property from people and never set foot in the courtroom. This is basically how the IRS takes away property;

a. When the Respondent does not pay you, this is called a BREACH. You see, the Trust (testator) actually "dies" when the trust is breached and as a result, the first Trustee becomes the grantor and has to be substituted by a third party in order to execute or carry out the Deed (the will) by liquidating the property. You will need to make a second TRUST and SUBSTITUTE the first Trustee so they can record a Notice of Trustee Sale in 60 days if the Respondent breaches.

b. After 60-90 days from the time you recorded the lien, record 2 documents;

1. Notice of Substitution of Trustee Sale - the cover page

2. Statement of Breach and Non-Performance - attachment

c. Have the Trustee that you substituted sign by notary the Notice of Trustee Sale, then record it at the county Recorders. This action gives the Respondent 90 days to pay you the amount owed or you have a public Sale, in which all of the collateral goes up for auction and the highest bidder gets the collateral. You keep selling off their collateral until you satisfy the lien. Designate a public place where you are going to have the public auction. Then advertise it in the local monthly paper that lists all of the foreclosures, and Trustee Sales for 90 days. Also put a copy on the public notice board at the Superior Court where all the other foreclosures are advertised.

d. When sale day comes, have the Trustee describe the property by reading the Notice of Trustee Sale, which includes giving the legal description and amount against the lien. Whoever is going to bid must have in their possession $1,000.00 cash, not a check or money order. Start opening bids and keep a record of who is bidding and how much they bid. The last one to bid is the winner.

e. The Substituted Trustee then gives the highest bidder a TRUSTEE’S DEED, which is signed, notarized and recorded.

f. If no one shows up, then the property you listed as collateral is yours. The Substitute Trustee then gives you a TRUSTEE’S DEED, which is prima facie evidence in any court if challenged.

g. If the collateral is real estate, you can now have a Realtor sell it, or sell it your self.




DISCLAIMER:

THESE PROCESS ARE UNTESTED AND WE ASSUME NO RESPONSIBILTY FOR THEIR USE.







THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. IT IS CERTAIN THAT THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PROCESS AND WE WILL STRIVE TO GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU. IN THE MEANTIME, LEARN IT, IMPROVE ON IT YOURSELF, AND SPREAD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO IS DETERMINED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CREATION OF THEIR WORLD.

GR82BMOI said...

Clueless:

I can’t speak for “ed/wsop”, but I interpreted the point to be that those comments were posted over seven months ago. Not only were things NOT settled in 30 days, but since then the Feds have indicted the Dorean principals and put them out of business. Then the Fed’s filed more charges and indicted more of Dorean’s top brass. Contrary to “Whistleblower’s” fantasyland rantings, the Fed’s sure aren’t backing down, are they? No – in fact if Kurt and his lackeys can finagle anything less than twenty years in a Federal pen, they should count their blessings.

In the past seven months, there have been no settlements, no refunds, no web site, no “claim form”, and absolutely no relief for those poor saps that have found themselves smack in the middle of foreclosure. If I were a client, Kurt’s continual assurances that there are “no problems” would be…well…a problem. The facts are what they are and any suckers still clinging to the hope they haven’t been the victim of a scam are seriously in need of psychiatric evaluation.

Ed/WSOP said...

yah.....
so there clueless

who's the dickwad now?

Clueless Fudd said...

Ed/WSOP said...
yah.....
so there clueless

who's the dickwad now

You still are, considering you posted about the state of utah, dick-wad

Ed/WSOP said...

Utah or California

For Kurt it's still spelled

JAIL

neodemes said...

Clueless Fudd said...
Ed/WSOP said...
yah.....
so there clueless

who's the dickwad now

You still are, considering you posted about the state of utah, dick-wad

****

Face it. The "dickwad" that originally posted that crap is Kurt.

whyudothat said...

GR82BMOI said...
In the past seven months, there have been no settlements, no refunds, no web site, no “claim form”, and absolutely no relief for those poor saps that have found themselves smack in the middle of foreclosure.The facts are what they are and any suckers still clinging to the hope they haven’t been the victim of a scam are seriously in need of psychiatric evaluation.

That is the most important part, the facts, and unfortunately that is correct. fred keeps saying the same thing over and over like a parrot, everything is fine and blah. the fact is the clients have not received that which was stated by fred, that is what will be accounted for.

Stillwaiting said...

I have been in the hospital and have missed alot of what sounds like nothing going on with the MC. So I will ask this questio to Dr. Fred "does this mean the paperwork we were going to get near the end of Dec won't becoming?"

tcob247 said...

LOL

Peanut Gallery said...

stillwaiting said,

I will ask this questio to Dr. Fred "does this mean the paperwork we were going to get near the end of Dec won't becoming?"

Of course it will be coming, in 30 days, no wait 60 days, no wait,did I say 60 days? I meant 90 days. Ooops, I meant 120 days. No no, 6 months, no wait.....

Stillwaiting, don't hold your breath, or you may wind up back in the hospital.

WillToFight said...

Calm Down Everybody.

Don't get caught by Neodomenesfuckface or the TACO!

Continue patience! You do know that the beast has much power. But the beast gets it's power from you, those
who submit and are negative and are weak in the knees.

Don't sell yourselves like Utah, Neodomenes and the like!

What up Big O, clueless, solvo, habakkuk and everybody else!

habakkuk said...

Hey Hey Willtofight....I'm still here. Just sitting back, being patient, and ignoring all the other crap thats been posted on this blog.

I'm excited about the future. When you know how the movie ends it helps you relax;)

GR82BMOI said...

So...I guess willtofight, clueless, solvo, habakkuk and "everybody else" fall into the "seriously in need of psychiatric evaluation" group. Doesn't surprise me.

imbigo said...

Zup yall BIG"O" IS STILL HERE TOO. I'LL BE GOING TO SEE OUR FRIENDS ON SAT. WILL BE IN TOUCH!!!

ZUP EVERYBODY...

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

whyudothat said...

WillToFight said...
Calm Down Everybody. what bullsht is that

calm down everybody?
hey did you work for some of the other mort elimin groups that have have come and gone, becuase you are saying the exact same thing they did. this is looking all too familiar.

1.get the ppls hopes up
2.dont deliver what you said
3. when they inquire tell them to calm down?
4. over and over, as the months, years go by hoping for some new theory maybe in the future
can you say lawsuit?

Tony Tuba said...

This is a HUGE development!



“The People vs The Banks”

Vancouver, British Columbia, February 27, 2006

The People shut the court down after about twenty minutes into the hearing scheduled to be heard on February 27, 28 and March 1, 2006. After intensive questioning by the People represented by John-Ruiz: Dempsey, Pavel-N: Darmantchev, Pedro Liong and Otto Luinenburg, the presiding judge, Nicole Garson got out of the courtroom and left after she gave the Sheriff an order to clear the courtroom. Game over, the banks’ motion to dismiss the People’s claim will not be heard – at least for now.

The People came prepared, knowing they are being led to the slaughter by the banks’ lawyers and the judge who prior to becoming a Supreme Court judge represented the banks lead counsel for one of the defendant banks – TD Canada Trust; obviously a clear conflict of interest which she refused to admit. Pavel said: “she had lots of chances to recuse herself in order to avoid confrontation but she failed miserably, presumably under the order of someone higher than herself.”

John filed a Notice of Motion to be heard by the Chief Justice Donald Brenner. Judge Garson took it upon herself to “hear” the motion in clear violation of the Rules of Court which gave the moving party the sole right to set his own motion for hearing. John was never given the opportunity to file a Notice of Hearing; in fact it is not too clear how the motion came to be heard or what caused John’s motion to be heard; the People suddenly received a “Reasons for Judgment” released by judge Garson on December 9, 2005. The People have no recollection of any hearings being set or heard regarding John’s motion (see http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/05/17/2005bcsc1730.htm - Dempsey et al. v. Envision Credit Union et al., 2005 BCSC 1730). It appears like Garson J. decided to “hear” the motion and become the judge of her own cause – in violation of the legal maxim: nemo judex in sua causa.

Apprehension of bias has been clearly evident since justice Garson was appointed as case management judge. Her first biased act was to prevent John from representing others despite the fact that John had private power of attorney agreements with Pavel, Ian (Gravlin), Pedro and Otto to represent them in court. As attorney-in-fact, it is trite law, established by generations of jurisprudence, John can do all things that his principals can legally do. The law regarding power of attorney has existed long before any statute such as the Legal Profession Act came into existence. Yet, the same judge who is supposed to be our protector and public servant decided to violate and impaired the People’s right of contract.
As humans, we have human rights and our rights are not subject to statutory control. It falls within the sovereign individual paradigm as reflected by the following US Supreme Court case:
"The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land [Common Law] long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 at 47 (1905).
Justice Garson has shown her true colors and where her allegiance lies by barring John to carry out his fiduciary duties to those who have agreed to be his lawful attorney based solely on “judicial discretion.” Judicial discretion has no validity when there is positive law; judicial discretion cannot abrogate a living man or woman’s natural rights; judicial discretion cannot overturn common law or statutory law. In the case of the said power of attorney contracts entered into between John and the people he represents, the contracts are even protected by the Power of Attorney Act of British Columbia. Garson J’s blatant disregard for the law is recorded in her Reasons for Judgment in Gravlin et al. v. Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce et al, 2005 BCSC 839 (http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/05/08/2005bcsc0839err1.htm).

Justice Garson has shown her willingness and determination to bend over backwards to the whims and wishes of the banks by bulldozing all the bank class actions into one single action despite the objections of all the representative plaintiffs involved in these class actions including “The People vs. The Banks” class action. Although the class actions involve similar causes of actions, not all the defendants are the same. One thing is obvious however; the banks lawyers are clearly attempting a judicial holocaust by herding all the class actions into one single gas chamber (or judge chamber) so that all the class actions can be slaughtered by one single judge/executioner in one fell swoop. John and his co-plaintiffs will not allow that to happen. They represent the People of Canada; they have the duty to ensure that such a planned massacre against the People does not happen. “The People are counting on us,” John said, “this is not up to one single judge to decide on our class actions, it is the People who will ultimately decide on the People’s fate, not judge Garson, this is the law of the land.”

There are other reasons why John and his friends believe that they are being led to the slaughter such as: Garson J refused to strike the banks’ statements of defence that really forms no reasonable defence. For example, all the banks’ defence says that the class actions are frivolous, vexatious, scandalous and an abuse of process, a typical boiler plate defence that corrupt court courts always allowed corrupt defendant lawyers to get away with. Such a defence is no defence at all because it does not state why the class action suits are frivolous, vexatious, scandalous or an abuse of process. It is an insult to the People who know the truth.

Garson J has also allowed the banks to get away with serious violations of the Rules of Court and established legal procedures by allowing the banks’ lawyers to refuse to produce documents, answer Interrogatories, and Notices to Admit. Based on our observation, it has been the normal practice of the Supreme Court and the Court of Appeal, the highest courts in the province to apply the rules only when they see fit. Unrepresented litigants, particularly those who are not too familiar with the rules of court have lost their cases due to such unfair double standards. The People must follow the Rules of Court, but the lawyers and judges, particularly those who gets paid handsomely by the banking cartel need not be concerned about any rules. They make up their own rules as they go along, and they have judges that makes them right all the time.

As living men and women, we can only deal in truth. We can only deal with what is wrong and what is right. The admiralty courts like the supreme courts and appellate courts of the province only deal in arguments, in fictions, in make-believe laws created by them, the “just us” society. This is only one of the reasons why we have to shut them down. We have no time for their arguments. Either they deal with us in truth, or we will have nothing to do with their corruption. We are here to set the People free, by way of the truth, not by arguing in court. People lose in court because they argue. People are not allowed to argue in court, only the “officers” of their admiralty courts are allowed to make arguments in court. We play our own rules in their courts – “for we can do nothing against the truth but for the truth.”

Justice Garson could not stand truth in her court room. Pavel asked her many times: “are you a public servant?” Garson J refused to answer a simple question with the truth. We already know the answer – she is nothing but a public servant, she is our servant. Garson J. lost it when the People in the court room themselves asked her: “why can’t you answer a simple question – are you a public servant?” That was all the heat she could take that day. She stood up and started to leave and ordered the sheriff to clear the court room. However, before she managed to get out of the court room, John and Pavel told her: “You’re fired Nicole.” And all the People in the court said so: “You’re fired.”

At any rate, the matter is res judicata or already decided by virtue of the fact that the banks have no answer to John’s Affidavit of Truth he filed in court. The affidavit was intended to solicit answers from the banks and establish the truth. In commerce, truth is established by an affidavit. An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in commerce. The time for filing a reply has now passed. This means that the People have already established the truth in accordance with the law of commerce. In commerce, truth is sovereign and as sovereign, we, the People have already established the truth. We have no time for the banks’ and their lawyers’ arguments. They are precluded by estoppel.

So that was the end of that. We are ordering the transcript to make sure that no one could tamper with the records if they have not yet done so already. We will publish the contents of the court transcript as soon as we receive it. What’s going happen next? Nothing. We, the People are not going back into that temple until the court has established that they have in rem or subject matter jurisdiction over us. As sovereign men and women, they have no power over us, unless it was given to them from above; or unless we accept their assumed power or jurisdiction. God bless you all.

John-Ruiz: Dempsey

One of Many

Tony Tuba said...

Anyone in the know, can't dorean use some of this Canadian Court outcome in their fight?

Justice7777777 said...

no

Itstooquiet said...

Wonder where the author of this blog went? It's been a week and nothing posted.
what's going on?

Yetter said...

I honestly believe that the US stock market and the US dollar have now become national security issues in the minds of the powers that be in this nation.For this reason,intervention into these markets will continue to be justified.Given enough money from thin air or from a derivitive mkt coupled with bogus economic reports, explains the serious disconnct from reality thatI see in the movement of the market place on a daily basis.The institutional investment world has gone over to the dark side in my opinion. Its called the computorized trading system(BLACK BOX),it is easy to move markets in whatever direction that is desired given the huge trading volume on any day.I recall a statement back in the early 1980's from a devoloper of computors speaking of all its virtues, but to never, never allow it to facilitate in electorial voting. Venture a guess why?
Iran becomes "economicaly nuclear" this month when it opens its energy trading market.This would replace dollar based oil with euros's. In late 2006 when the bi product of its light water plant(platonium)reaches a stock pile large enough to be threatening.I womder which nuclear event will happen first?Both will occur unless the worlds no1 enemy is hit by a nuclear deep penetrating bunker buster immediately. It is sad and terrifying that the most effective way to prevent the Middle East from becoming nuclear is to nuke them.This information came from Janes intelligence service. If you are not familiar with this organization, they are the last word on weapons. Experts in the dark world of what kills.

Yetter said...
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Itstooquiet said...

It's 2 quiet. where did fred go?

tcob247 said...

does it matter where fred is?

has he EVER delivered anything as promised?

Why would it matter where he is if all he does is lie?

As for Kurt not posting.......

I belive he is in another battle over his meal money

son of a prophet said...

yetter said....



"It is sad and terrifying that the most effective way to prevent the Middle East from becoming nuclear is to nuke them."




WHY? WHY?? WHY????



IF you believe that the banks are a fraud and controlled by banksters, why would you believe that Iran or Iraq or anyone is OUR enemy??


just because the PTB says so doesnt make it true.

dont let them win by feeding on the hate. the PTB continue to cntrol ppl by weakening their energy and they continue to weaken their energy by stealing it and they continue to steal energy by feeding on fear/hate.

just say no. dont let them do it.

dont buy into anyone they tell you is the enemy. THEY are the enemy!


they will tell you that this country or that country is the enemy and then sell out your ports from under you. lol!

the fact is that those ports along with the rest of the USA was already sold out a long time ago.

you cannot change this fact, but at least by being aware of it, you can stop letting them feed on your emeotins of fear/hate which just drain you and make you more pliable like putty in their hands...

tcob247 said...

I'm aware

I feel so much better now

Thank you SOP

son of a prophet said...

Gulags For American Citizens In Final Planning Stages
Halliburton sex slave trade criminals prepare camps for political dissidents

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | March 1 2006

Bush administration and US army preparations to target American citizens and intern them in forced labor camps has vastly accelerated in the past month and commentators from all over the political spectrum are sounding the alarm bells that the round-ups may begin soon.

Once the bane of the media's stereotypical 'tin foil hat wearing' caricatures, concentration camps in America are now serious news and no one is laughing.

Following the news first given wide attention by this website, that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency, the Alternet website put together an alarming report that collated all the latest information on plans to initiate internment of political subversives and Muslims after the next major terror attack in the US.

The article highlighted the disturbing comments of Sen. Lindsey Graham, who encouraged torture supporting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to target, "Fifth Columnists" Americans who show disloyalty and sympathize with "the enemy," whoever that enemy may be.

It is important to stress that the historical precedent mirrors exactly what the Halliburton camp deal outlines. Oliver North's Reagan era Rex 84 plan proposed rounding up 400,000 refugees, under FEMA, in the event of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States.



The real agenda, just as it is with Halliburton's gulags, was to use the cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for targeting political dissidents. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.

The current terrorist suspect list was recently revealed to contain the names of 325,000 people. The government claimed that only a tiny fraction were American citizens living in America but when compared to the potential terrorist list in the UK, which under section 44 of the terrorism act has ensnared at least 119,000 people, most of them innocent protesters, the number is likely to be far higher. Britain's population is only 60 million compared to the US at 295 million.

Halliburton, through their KBR subsidiary, is the same company that built most of the major new detention camps in Iraq and Afghanistan. KBR have been embroiled in a human sex slave trade that their representatives have lobbied to continue.

We have a company that has been handed a contract to build prison camps in America that is engaged in trafficking young girls and women. Can this horror movie get any more frightening?

A much discussed and circulated report, the Pentagon's Civilian Inmate Labor Program, has recently been updated and the revision details a "template for developing agreements" between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations."



The plan is clearly to swallow up disenfranchised groups likes prisoners and Muslims at first and then extend the policy to include 'Fifth Columnists,' otherwise known as anyone who disagrees with the government or exercises their Constitutional rights.

Respected author Peter Dale Scott speculated that the "detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law."

Daniel Ellsberg, former Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense, called the plan, "preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters. They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."

George Bush has declared himself to be dictator and to have supreme power over and above the limitations of the US Constitution. Bush administration officials like Alberto Gonzales have declared Bush to be "above the law." White House advisors are openly discussing the legality of crushing a child's testicles as part of the war on terror. Preparation for the internment of thousands of Americans who are 'disloyal' in times of emergency are afoot.

The next step is clearer than it has ever been. One more large scale staged terror attack in America and the result will be martial law. When even famous singers like Morrissey are being detained and questioned by the secret service for "speaking out against the American and British governments," we know we are in a lot of trouble.

tcob247 said...

Guess what SOP

YOU ARE ON THAT LIST!!!!!

RUN and HIDE!!!!!

"White House advisors are openly discussing the legality of crushing a child's testicles as part of the war on terror."

I believe they are talking about you here

How do I know?

The Holy Spirit told me so.

No one can question me because I am at a higher piritual plane than anyone else

son of a prophet said...

Totally Controlled Obnoxious Being said......


you know what tcon, even joking that is not very funny...i am not afraid, but if they really did say that, your kids and g-kids arent safe either....

and if it is true, we are ALL in deep s**t and this includes YOU too my friend...

this is how sick the govt. has become that they would crush a childs testicles???

doesnt really surpirse me tho, as the worship the evil one...

and even tho i know you are joking, you do a disservice to those who read your retarded comments and then dismiss these articles as pure fiction...

as this is what the govt. wants, I can only conclude that you are the 'g'....


the thing is tho, that those wroking for the
'g' will become worthless too and will be done away with....


so enjoy, for now........

habakkuk said...

Sherri H said....

Justice Garson could not stand truth in her court room. Pavel asked her many times: “are you a public servant?” Garson J refused to answer a simple question with the truth. We already know the answer – she is nothing but a public servant, she is our servant. Garson J. lost it when the People in the court room themselves asked her: “why can’t you answer a simple question – are you a public servant?” That was all the heat she could take that day. She stood up and started to leave and ordered the sheriff to clear the court room. However, before she managed to get out of the court room, John and Pavel told her: “You’re fired Nicole.” And all the People in the court said so: “You’re fired.”

HOW I WISH I WAS THERE TO SEE THAT SCENE.

WE ARE GETTING CLOSER:

Habakkuk 2:6-11

In their greed they have gathered up many nations and peoples. 6But the time is coming when all their captives will taunt them, saying, `You thieves! At last justice has caught up with you! Now you will get what you deserve for your oppression and extortion!' 7Suddenly, your debtors will rise up in anger. They will turn on you and take all you have, while you stand trembling and helpless. 8You have plundered many nations; now they will plunder you. You murderers! You have filled the countryside with violence and all the cities, too.

9"How terrible it will be for you who get rich by unjust means! You believe your wealth will buy security, putting your families beyond the reach of danger. 10But by the murders you committed, you have shamed your name and forfeited your lives. 11The very stones in the walls of your houses cry out against you, and the beams in the ceilings echo the complaint.

tcob247 said...

"then dismiss these articles as pure fiction..."


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO................

REALLY?????????????????????

tcob247 said...

I AM THE G

I WILL CRUSH YOUR TESTICLES


LOLOLOLOL

habakkuk said...

Tcob said....


I AM THE G

I WILL CRUSH YOUR TESTICLES


LOLOLOLOL

Hey Tcob, aren't you a father (with a son in the military)???.....I wonder if your kids know you spend all day writing stuff like this that even they have grown out of. Your son is off defending the free world and your writing "I WILL CRUSH YOUR TESTICLES". Hmmmmmmmmm

tcob247 said...

Hey Asshole

Don't you recognize sarcasm??

I don't "spend all day writing this"

It was a quote from your spiritually superior friend SOP

What does my son being in the military have anything to do with with what SOP and I write back and forth.

Why bring that up?

?????????????????????
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

habakkuk said...

Ok...My Bad. If SOP originally said it then he's the immature one.

But like they say: "kids in the sandbox always attract other kids"
So if half the stuff he says is ridiculous to you...why do you respond? You should have started ignoring him a long time ago.....But he keeps drawing you back in like the kid in the sandbox.

You ask:

"What does my son being in the military have anything to do with with what SOP and I write back and forth.

Why bring that up?"

My Answer:

HEY A#!$@#$@,

DONT YOU RECOGNIZE IRONY? I FIND IT IRONIC THAT YOUR SON IS OFF FIGHTING BATTLES LIKE A MAN AND YOUR ON THE INTERNET ALL DAY LIKE A HIGH SCHOOLER FIGHTING WITH SOP AND SAYING "I WILL CRUSH YOUR TESTICLES".

HEY, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GONE MONTHS AGO...... REMEMBER???? BUT LIKE THAT SNOT NOSED KID YOU KEEP COMING BACK AROUND THE CORNER. GO HOME TACO!!!!!

tcob247 said...

Habbakkkkkkk........

So who is the child now?

LOL

You are an idiot.

IF SOP can post his cut and paste drivel, then why do YOU have such a problem with me responding???

If you are upset with me saying that I was not going to post awile back, then why arent you upset with Kurt and Fred who promised to eliminate mortgages and took people for millions of dollars?

Looks like your anger is directed in the wrong place asshole.

I'm startin to see a pattern of the Kurt cult here
(actually I saw it a long time ago)

You are just confirming it

Thank you

son of a prophet said...

habakkuk said....




"Ok...My Bad. If SOP originally said it then he's the immature one."


I did not say it. It was in the article that I posted.


I think that for anyone to joke around about stuff like that is S-I-C-K.

EVEN IF THYE ARE POSTING UNDER DIFFERENT IDs all the time.

its very sad that the govt. would resort to doing stuff like this in the name of fighting terrorism.

whom are they kidding??

son of a prophet said...

....and another thing, why doesnt doesnt the media, like Controlled News Network (CNN) report on stuff like this....where were they when the 'g' said that they woould cut your kids b**ls off!!!!


these s-i-c-k b****rds.

habakkuk said...

Hey Tcob,

I've given you enough of my time....i dont want to waste anymore. Dont talk to me.....go play with someone else.

tcob247 said...

hey sop

The media wont report on it CAUSE IT AINT true

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Good bye habakkukkkkkkkkkkkkk

WillToFight said...

gr82bmoi what is that some kinda code for idiot!

Whyudothat if you would do a little study you would see the truth behind the product.

I keep asking. When yah gonna wake up?

WillToFight said...

Sherrih. said

This is a HUGE development!



“The People vs The Banks”

Vancouver, British Columbia, February 27, 2006

The People shut the court down after about twenty minutes into the hearing scheduled to be heard on February 27, 28 and March 1, 2006. After intensive questioning by the People represented by John-Ruiz: Dempsey, Pavel-N: Darmantchev, Pedro Liong and Otto Luinenburg, the presiding judge,

WillToFight
Said...

Sherri

Many americans just have their head in the sand. They actually trust big banking, Big Business, the government to just make sure everything is OK.

Folks you betta wake up. Government Business, and everything is By and For the People!

This country is Fascist. Look up the definition. Savor the definition by THINKING! Unless you are a complete unadulterated IDIOT you will see what is going on!

WAKE UP WAKE UP!

We are not the enemy here!

We the people in the KNOW are trying to make a change that will help your children and grandchildren and may allow a little bit more happiness in your life today.

STAND UP

TO THE GOOD FIGHT!

whyudothat said...

willtofight said.. Whyudothat if you would do a little study you would see the truth behind the product.

the jury will study your testimony, and the lack of product that you stated over many times that the ppl paid $ for that you ddnt deliver as those that have gone before you.

whyudothat said...

stillwaiting,
no we're not talking kurt and scott. stop putting kurt and scotts seperate trial into what your accountable for.

we are talking freds false claims on delivering the settlements, and the jury will listen to you

good4info said...

We haven't heard from Kurt or Scott for a while, so I thought I would post what I have learned. (go to Pacer.com, the Federal Court System's web page).

A 68 count superseding indictment was issued against H/J, LeCompte, Julian, Magoon and Tobias. LeCompte has been arrested. H/J went before a Magistrate Judge and have been assigned to Judge Alsup for their criminal charges. They had a court date on Thursday and another this morning (March 1).

good4info said...

oh, they are looking at 30+ years for each of their counts for a total of over a thousand years of potential prison time.

tcob247 said...

LeCompte has been arrested.

He will sing.....
He's not as big and bad as he says or thought he was

He will give it up in a heartbeat.
No way he will go to JAIL and leave his family and Mercedez


And you wonder why we dont hear much from the supporters now.

Fred has his tail between his legs looking for cover

Stillwaiting said...

So this means we aren't getting the paperwork by the end of December??? If this is true and most of you feel it is, why are you still here???

complainers suck said...

tcob247 said...
LeCompte has been arrested.

He will sing.....
He's not as big and bad as he says or thought he was

He will give it up in a heartbeat.
No way he will go to JAIL and leave his family and Mercedez

Actually, fle got out on bond on Friday. So much for no bail warrants for all defendants.

Please enlighten us on what there is to "sing" about?

Would you say this to his face, I bet not?

Please enlighten us on what it is to give up?

Give us the substance you always talk about, since you gave no substance in reference to you above dribble....

Patiently waiting.....

complainers suck said...

good4info said...
A 68 count superseding indictment was issued against H/J, LeCompte, Julian, Magoon and Tobias. LeCompte has been arrested. H/J went before a Magistrate Judge and have been assigned to Judge Alsup for their criminal charges. They had a court date on Thursday and another this morning (March 1).

Did you get details? Such as judge brazil from oakland recusing himself without ever getting s/k arrained, and transferred to san fran. See if "pacer" will give you details on this move....

wantobefree said...

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah just a bunch of bullshit comes out of that Kurts mouth.Hey everybody who thinks they are getting their money back are thinking this whole mortgage thing is going to go thru.GREAT NEWS EVERYONE the best news in a year and a half I JUST FIRED THEIR SCAMMING ASSES OFF MY TRUST they COST ME $4000 BUT FREEDOM AT LAST.Thanks alot for your time just remember you pieces of shit you will be judged some day and when you are i truly feel for every dam one of you scammers.

Clueless Fudd said...

wantobefree said...
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah just a bunch of bullshit comes out of that Kurts mouth.Hey everybody who thinks they are getting their money back are thinking this whole mortgage thing is going to go thru.GREAT NEWS EVERYONE the best news in a year and a half I JUST FIRED THEIR SCAMMING ASSES OFF MY TRUST they COST ME $4000 BUT FREEDOM AT LAST.Thanks alot for your time just remember you pieces of shit you will be judged some day and when you are i truly feel for every dam one of you scammers.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, fuck-face.

tcob247 said...

hey clueless.......

Are you Farrel......????

Cause he has this gutter mouth just like you and always challenges people to say that to his face....

Guess what.....I'll say it to your fucking face. You are an ASSHOLE with a capital A

Go to hell you lowlife scammer

Thanks for dragging me down to your level

usarock said...

Hey congrats want to be free

I did the same thing

Fired them for not doing their job

Cost me $400 but it was worth it

I have control of my house now not a con man

wantobefree said...
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wantobefree said...

Clueless-Pudd as a matter of fact that door came no where near my ass.You obvious are on here for no other reason but to stir shit up on you way to your porn site to beat off because if you for one second think this mortgage group is going to help you your out of your mind.Have a good one make sure and grab your towel jerky boy

blind101 said...

Hey Clueless and USArocks,
How did you go about removing these guys off your trust and putting your property back in your name, it looks like that is the direction everyone should be headed right now! Help a fellow victim out!

usarock said...

Blind101

I would be happy to help you out of your Trust
(unlike Dorean principles)

I went to an Attorney who specializes in Wills and Trusts.

After reading over the trust he stated that it was poorly written and very confusing (no suprise there)
But he found this......... Paragraph 7.15 of ARTICLE VII (Assignment of Duties to the Trustees) of the XXXXX Family Trust dated XXXXXX,2004 specifically grants the Trustors the following power, " To remove and replace any Trustee(s) who shall in any material way act to change the express terms of the contract.

So he drafted an Affidavit of Trustees that among other things said........
The two current Trustees have materially changed the terms of the contract through fraud, deceit, and mismanagement of the Trust and are therefore subject to removal by the Trustors.

He drafted three documents ($100 each)
1) Affidavit of Trustees
2) Removal of Trustees (Removing Kurt and Scott)
3) Removal of Trustees (Indicating that Kurt and Scott were removed and appointing myself as the NEW Trustee)

I sent it to the Title Company who was doing my Re-FI (they were the ones that requested that it be done this way)
They approved it and my loan went through!!!!!

Goodbye scammers

complainers suck said...

usarock said...
Blind101
I went to an Attorney who specializes in Wills and Trusts.

After reading over the trust he stated that it was poorly written and very confusing (no suprise there)
But he found this......... Paragraph 7.15 of ARTICLE VII (Assignment of Duties to the Trustees) of the XXXXX Family Trust dated XXXXXX,2004 specifically grants the Trustors the following power, " To remove and replace any Trustee(s) who shall in any material way act to change the express terms of the contract.

So he drafted an Affidavit of Trustees that among other things said........
The two current Trustees have materially changed the terms of the contract through fraud, deceit, and mismanagement of the Trust and are therefore subject to removal by the Trustors.

He drafted three documents ($100 each)
1) Affidavit of Trustees
2) Removal of Trustees (Removing Kurt and Scott)
3) Removal of Trustees (Indicating that Kurt and Scott were removed and appointing myself as the NEW Trustee)

I sent it to the Title Company who was doing my Re-FI (they were the ones that requested that it be done this way)
They approved it and my loan went through!!!!!

Goodbye scammers

If my memory serves me correctly, Fred Johnson gave these very same instructions to clients months ago, so you could have completed the same task without paying for an attorney.

complainers suck said...

tcob247 said...
hey clueless.......

Cause he has this gutter mouth just like you and always challenges people to say that to his face....

Guess what.....I'll say it to your fucking face. You are an ASSHOLE with a capital A

I'm the one who asked you this, tcob not clueless, and I didn't ask it using a "gutter mouth" that you seem so astute in using (please look up hypocrite in dictionary) yourself.

Now, how about that substance, since you didn't give it in your "gutter mouth" reply?

tcob247 said...

complainers

You are right
I am wrong
I apologize

However,that doesnt change my opinion about Farrel et al

complainers suck said...

tcob247 said...
complainers

You are right
I am wrong
I apologize

However,that doesnt change my opinion about Farrel et al

Well, at least you admitted to the truth about something, which is that this was based on your opinion and not fact. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but most often opinion are not based on fact or truth, but emotions.

good4info said...

compaliners suck in answer to your question:

K/S were arrainged before Magistrate Judge Brazil. K/S waived a bail hearing so they are being held without bail. They have been transferred to a District Court Judge in SF, who will handle their case.

son of a prophet said...

99.99% of the world said...


"yep, it MUST BE TRUE, I saw it on the Controlled News Network (CNN)..."


lol BIG TIME!

WillToFight said...

Why Americans Know More About The Simpsons Than The Constitution
And why it is a benchmark of how much danger we are in

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 2 2006

More Americans can name Simpsons characters than they can the freedoms that the 1st Amendment upholds. This is a benchmark of how much danger the country is in and the blame can be laid with public education.

Only one in a thousand Americans can name all five first amendment freedoms. The BBC reports, "The names of American Idol TV show judges and popular advertising slogans also proved more memorable than the five freedoms - speech, religion, press, assembly and petition for redress of grievances."

This kind of poll gives aid and comfort to the enemy. The Globalists read this kind of thing and it only enhances their myopic zeal to dominate and enslave us for our own good. They have brainwashed themselves using Straussian theology to believe that they have a divine right to subjugate and rule stupid people for the good of the planet.

From the very foundation of the public school system the elite made their plans clear. The goal was to psychologically mould people to create mindless drones and bricks in the wall of the system, via learning monotonously by rote and the day being divided up by pavlovian bells.

In his 1905 dissertation for Columbia Teachers College, Elwood Cubberly—the future Dean of Education at Stanford—wrote that schools should be factories "in which raw products, children, are to be shaped and formed into finished products...manufactured like nails, and the specifications for manufacturing will come from government and industry."

Similarly, the Rockefeller Education Board—which funded the creation of numerous public schools—issued a statement which read in part:

"In our dreams...people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions [intellectual and character education] fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, educators, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians, nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have ample supply. The task we set before ourselves is very simple...we will organize children...and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way."


WillToFight Said...
Read More If you can face the Truth!

They think you IDIOTS folks.

Support yourselves (The People) Dorean = Soveriegn Freedom

Judge Roy Bean said...

FYI - the boys are being transferred from the Glen Dyer facility to the Dublin facility so they have access to the law library there.

pasak said...

I heard that the swiss bank that issued the bonds for the dorean group to use are now going after kurt and scott looking for thier money. They are saying that many of the bonds are being used. Has anyone else heard this or is this just crap?

If this is true than they should go after the banks and not kurt and scott.

Seen it in Utah said...

I explained a long time ago that the face of the bond obligates Kurt personally--and that the bonds are worthless. Does anybody still think the bonds are worth the paper they are printed on?

complainers suck said...

Seen it in Utah said...
I explained a long time ago that the face of the bond obligates Kurt personally--and that the bonds are worthless. Does anybody still think the bonds are worth the paper they are printed on?

I do. If the bonds are not "worth the paper they are printed on", why haven't they been charged at least one count relating to the bonds?

Also, you lost your credibility once utah disappeared, when YOU insisted that they would "get first crack"....

son of a prophet said...

WATCH OUT HOW YOU PAY YOU CREDIT CARD BILLS!

now what does this have to do with terrorism!? not a thing!

wouldnt surprise me if this Dorean business turns into a terrorism case by homeland insecurity; all the while they sell out the ports and now apparently also a cirtical parts military mfg. plant sold to "the enemy". lol


from the cuting edge site....








Pay too much and you could raise the alarm

By BOB KERR
The Providence Journal
28-FEB-06

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Walter Soehnge is a retired Texas schoolteacher who traveled north with his wife, Deana, saw summer change to fall in Rhode Island and decided this was a place to stay for a while.

So the Soehnges live in Scituate now and Walter sometimes has breakfast at the Gentleman Farmer in Scituate Village, where he has passed the test and become a regular despite an accent that is definitely not local.

And it was there, at his usual table last week, that he told me that he was "madder than a panther with kerosene on his tail."

He says things like that. Texas does leave its mark on a man.

What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that "everything changed after 9/11" thing.

But not Walter.

"We're a product of the '60s," he said. "We believe government should be way away from us in that regard."

He was referring to the recent decision by him and his wife to be responsible, to do the kind of thing that just about anyone would say makes good, solid financial sense.

They paid down some debt. The balance on their JCPenney Platinum MasterCard had gotten to an unhealthy level. So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.

And an alarm went off. A red flag went up. The Soehnges' behavior was found questionable.

And all they did was pay down their debt. They didn't call a suspected terrorist on their cell phone. They didn't try to sneak a machine gun through customs.

They just paid a hefty chunk of their credit card balance. And they learned how frighteningly wide the net of suspicion has been cast.

After sending in the check, they checked online to see if their account had been duly credited. They learned that the check had arrived, but the amount available for credit on their account hadn't changed.

So Deana Soehnge called the credit-card company. Then Walter called.

"When you mess with my money, I want to know why," he said.

They both learned the same astounding piece of information about the little things that can set the threat sensors to beeping and blinking.

They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.

Walter called television stations, the American Civil Liberties Union and me. And he went on the Internet to see what he could learn. He learned about changes in something called the Bank Privacy Act.

"The more I'm on, the scarier it gets," he said. "It's scary how easily someone in Homeland Security can get permission to spy."

Eventually, his and his wife's money was freed up. The Soehnges were apparently found not to be promoting global terrorism under the guise of paying a credit-card bill. They never did learn how a large credit card payment can pose a security threat.

But the experience has been a reminder that a small piece of privacy has been surrendered. Walter Soehnge, who says he holds solid, middle-of-the-road American beliefs, worries about rights being lost.

"If it can happen to me, it can happen to others," he said.

tcob247 said...

I agree with that totally

son of a prophet said...

...as the govt. tighten the noose around you neck, pretty soon "breating" will be declared "terrorist act"....


how anyone can not be on the Dorean side makes no sense to me unless they is the 'g'

and if they is the 'g', they a fool to thik that thye is 'safe'

after the 'g' use them up, the 'g' will go after them too.

if you a 'judge', you think you work fo the 'g' you is safe?? lol

dun worry, the 'g' come after you too eventually, and someday they cut off you kids b**ls too!

you not safe b-coss you a juj, even if you da hangin' juj...

the dishonorable roy lupeeni...hehehehehehehehehe.....

Seen it in Utah said...

Well, SOP, I just have a general aversion to siding with scam artists and criminals. I object to people taking money from others, making promises, and then letting their homes be foreclosed. I object to people cursing others that they don't like with cancer. They don't make promises to people that are desperate and then ignore them afterwards.

No, I don't think I want to be in the Dorean camp.

son of a prophet said...

seen it in hell said....




"I object to people taking money from others, making promises, and then letting their homes be foreclosed."





...then why not hate the 'g'. they are responsible for all the 'scams' that you have attributed to the DG, no??

cant get a bigger scam than the 'g'

theyve been running scams since day one; yes, the evil one, satan, himself, he worked for the 'g'

he was SES (Senior Executive Service) lol

tcob247 said...

"dun worry, the 'g' come after you too eventually, and someday they cut off you kids b**ls too!

you not safe b-coss you a juj, even if you da hangin' juj..."


Can you like......speak in a language that is easier to understand

Secondly.......

What are you going to do to escape the big bad G????

Seems like you would be the first one they would go after
How are you going to escape it???

Jus wonderin

son of a prophet said...

Can you like......speak in a language that is easier to understand

*****g, (did i say g!??) cant we all has sum fun, with everthing else going to hell, migh' as well have fun o' it)*****

Secondly.......


What are you going to do to escape the big bad G????


*****nothin; what am i gonna do. what that movie that say, "you cannot escape, resistance if futile"

and besides, the biggest weapon we have is the mind and the tongue;

Yeshua said...."the tongue is like a sword..." book of James, I believe.

all we can do is educate ppl to the truth; the truth is very powerful. you cannot fight them with their weapons, you cannot win. like brigning a knife to a gunfight. but the truth cuts them down.

like i said, its the judges, FBI, HomSec, ATF, ppl you must convince that the ppl who sign thier paychex are out to destroy them and their kids eventually. but you fight them with guns and knives, you will lose everytime.

must convince them that its in their best interest to see the truth. (NOT EASY WHEN THEIR $$$$ WAS MADE BY SELLING OUT TO DEVIL; YOUR ASKING THEM TO GIVE UP $$$ AND CUSHY LIFESTYLE)

remember, killing is satans tool, and this IS satans kingdom. you play by his rules, you lose. play by Yeshuas rules, you win.******

Seems like you would be the first one they would go after

****your probably right, because although I am harmless to them, I know the truth that cuts them down like a sword. ppl who know the truth are dangerous to them. they are called dissidents. they rather face those with knives and guns as then they can kill them with impunity, but "dissiednts" are like "pain in the *ss" to them*****



How are you going to escape it???

***already answer; see above.****

Jus wonderin

son of a prophet said...

remember, IN ALL CASES, knowing the TRUTH is better than not knowing it no matter wht the consequences of knowing the truth are.

ex.

take a soldier fighting in the military;

if a soldier thinks that he is fighting for "our freedom" or "our country" then he is likely to want to join/stay in the military to kill/support a killing machine (the military)

HOWEVER,

if a soldier knows the truth, ie., tht the soldier is in fact fighting for the NEW WORLD ORDER, then he will be less likely to want to join/stay in the military.


***What about those who say...

i joined to get a paid college eduaction, or a better job when i get out, or to see the world..or.....


Yeshuas command is clear..."thou shalt not kill"

you may not get a college eduactoin, or a better job, or see the world by not joining the military, B-U-T,

***M-A-X-I-M***


+++YOU CAN NEVER COME OUT FURTHER AHEAD BY VIOLATING GODs COMMAND THAN BY OBEYING IT+++


agian, this is where truth comes in.

many will not agree or dispute this MAXIM, but those wiht high level wisdom will know instinctively that its true. (OR WILL EVENTUALLY FIND OUT THRUOGH LIFE EXPERIENCE)


easy example, take divorce.

God prohbibts divorce, but many do so anyway thinking tht they will be happy. so much for better or for worse.

after they get divorced and remarry, they have 1 or 2 good years and then the misery begins. much worse than if they had just stayed with their origianl spouse and suffered a little.
again, most will not understand this, due to lack of high level wisdom, but experience will later prove it true to them.

remember-

YOU CAN NEVER COME OUT FURTHER AHEAD BY VIOLATING GODs COMMAND, THAN YOU WOULD BY KEEPING IT (EVEN IF AT FIRST IT DOES NOT APPEAR SO)

tcob247 said...

boy you just know everything about anything dont you

The gospel according to SOP

Oh thats right ....you dont go to church cause no one has the truth like you

We havent attained your level yet

Hey if Yeshua prohibits killing and you dont believe that the OLD Testament is valid.......

How do you explain all the killing God is gonna do according to REVELATION????????????


So ourMilitary is wrong no matter what.......... right?

let them Kill us but we cant kill them

You are too cool for school dude

I wanna be jus like U

son of a prophet said...

tcob said....



"Hey if Yeshua prohibits killing and you dont believe that the OLD Testament is valid.......


WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. C'MON DUDE, THAT WAS 2000 YRS. AGO. YOU BEEN SLEEPING THAT LONG??

How do you explain all the killing God is gonna do according to REVELATION????????????

THATS GODs BUSINESS, NOT OURS; SINCE WHEN DID WE BECOME GOD??


So ourMilitary is wrong no matter what.......... right?


THE MILITARY IS NOT WRONG AS THEY REPRESENT THE GOVT. (SATAN) EACH INDIVIUDAL TAHT JOINS IS WRONG AND HELD PERSONALLY ACCOUNTABLE AT THE JUDGMENT

let them Kill us but we cant kill them


THE BIBLE SAYS FOR CHRISTIANS TO OFFER THEMSELVES AS A 'LIVING SACRIFICE'

WHETHER OR NOT ONE CHOOSES TO KILL IS HIS CHOICE, BUT THE BIBLE IS PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THE ISSUE.


You are too cool for school dude


THANK YOU.



I wanna be jus like U"



AGAIN, THANK YOU. LOL


12:49 PM

tcob247 said...

So if someone breaks into to your house and wants to steal from you and rape your wife and kids........
You would not kill him?

Peanut Gallery said...

tcob,

You should know by now that SOP will not answer any questions that challenge him. He is completely ignorant.

It is funny how he thinks the O.T. is obsolete, but yet he quotes it all the time. More shmorgasbord (sp?) theology. I guess SOP is the only human in the world that can say Gods word is obsolete, it's that higher plain of spirituality I guess.

you will know them by their fruit said...

SOP= Cult and Paste

son of a prophet said...

tcob said...




"So if someone breaks into to your house and wants to steal from you and rape your wife and kids........
You would not kill him?'





I do not know what I would do.

Nonetheless, the bible is perfectly clear on it.

Yeshua would have done nothing. A perfect Christian would do nothing.



Some ppl have an issue with pride, one of the sins God hates. they cannot admit tht someone has more knowlege of the bible than they.

but, no matter, as they go on, life experience (suffering)will teach them the truth.

at the root of most ppl's problems with not being able to see the truth, is that they dont believe, or understand that we live in satans kingdom.

failure to understand this completely leads them to be misguided on understanding scripture and prevents the HS from giving them wisdom. they are those whom the bible (Paul)says...."study and study, but never come to the knowledgge of the truth"

the Pharisees did exactly that, try to use reasoning; it cannot be done.

by not udnerestanding that this is satans kingdom, one believes mistakenely that wars and killing can bring peace.

what they are saying is that they can bring in the millenial kingdom of peace thrgoutout the world.

but Yeshua said that this cannot be done, so anyone who would try to do this is anti-christ thinking.

it like..."get over it, it aint happening"

but those who dont understand truth, or dont want to, believe that they can bring in the good life. they will have to wait to find out it wont happen.

eventually when one doesnt understand the truth, the ppl they follow will sell them out.

just look at all the repubs now turning on the Pres.

why??

because the Pres has just sold them out.

same for the dems or any other pols that say that they can change things and make them better.

its a lie and eventually they will sell you out because they know it can never be done; but they do a good job of selling it to the public.


it is said to seek the truth and you will find it; but what it doesnt tell you is there is much suffering on the way to the truth.


suffering that no one wants to do.

they want easy chair truth but get lies that they cant recognize and thus get dissapointed later.

when one realizes that this is satans kingdom, then one can begin to understand what is going on and why and begin to see the truth which is Yeshua.

tcob247 said...

SOP said.....

"A perfect Christian would do nothing."

Is there such a thing?

Do you sin SOP?

neodemes said...

"Nonetheless, the bible is perfectly clear on it."

Actually, there is some seeming contradiction on the subject...

Luk 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Mat 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Yetter said...

In 13 months we have had four bankruptcies of auto parts suppliers to GM. Today Dana blew up.Of course no one cares but us. As suppliers hit the fan the chances of GM joining them comes into focus. The implications of GM going broke is major investment bankers following suit. The intrest sensitive so called bond insurance of over the counter derivitives are instruments of mass financial destruction. The explosive fuse for this junk paper is GM.

son of a prophet said...

tcob said....



"A perfect Christian would do nothing."

Is there such a thing?


NOT ON THIS EARTH.

Do you sin SOP?"


NO. OF COURSE NOT! LOL! :-)




there is not cotradiction. Yeshua knew that they were going to kill him and did nothing.

that is what a perfect christian would do. nothing.

are theyre any pc's on this earth.

no. even if there were one who would let them kill him or their family w/o doing anythng, he wuld still not be perfect as Paul said..."there is no one good, no, not even one..."

the heart is inherently evil; its only thru the HS that one can contol its evil desires.

son of a prophet said...

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT FROM


THE 'G'



PLEASE BE PATIENT!

WERE WORKING AS HARD AND AS FAST AS WE CAN TO SELL YOU OUT, BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

YOU AMERICANS ARE VERY IMPATIENT!

GIVE US JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME, AND YOULL SEE, WE WILL HAVE YOU ALL SOLD OUT TO THE ENEMY!

NOTE: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE GREASED UP YOUR APPLE CARTS; AS YOULL ALL BE SELLING APPLES ON THE STREET PRETTY SOON, ASSUMEING OF COURSE, THAT YOU HAVE THE REQUIRED LICENSES AND PASS HOMELAND SECURITY SCREENS. (BUT DON WORRY, WE WILL APPLY THE SAME STANDARDS USED TO SELL OUT YOUR PORTS)







UAE buys British firm that runs U.S. military facilities






Friday, March 3, 2006
WASHINGTON — The United Arab Emirates intends to**** operate U.S. military factories.*****

The Bush administration has informed Congress of a review of the UAE acquisition of a British manufacturer of engine components for U.S. military aircraft and main battle tanks. The British firm operates nine factories, including military production facilities in Connecticut and Georgia.



Officials said Dubai International Capital has acquired the London-based Doncasters Group for $1.2 billion. Doncasters produces engine components and turbine blades for military platforms, and its clients include Boeing, General Electric, Honeywell and Pratt and Whitney, Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's a standard business deal by a consortium that seeks opportunities," an official said. "But it also fits in well with Dubai's plans to create an aerospace industry."

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States completed a standard 30-day review and last week decided to extend the investigation for another 45 days. Dubai International is part of Dubai Holding, the third-largest shareholder in DaimlerChrysler.

The latest reviews by CFIUS came amid sharp opposition in Congress to the panel's decision to approve the UAE takeover of operations of six U.S. ports. In January, CFIUS approved the $6.8 billion takeover of Dubai Port World of a British company that has long operated the American ports.

Congressional sources said the Senate Banking Committee was informed of the CFIUS investigation of Dubai International on Feb. 27. The committee was also informed that the Treasury panel has ordered a 45-day review of a proposed Israeli takeover of a U.S. contractor for the American intelligence community.

On Thursday, Deputy Treasury Secretary Robert Kimmitt said the additional review of Dubai International stemmed from what he termed unresolved security questions. He would not elaborate.

Officials acknowledged that CFIUS has reduced security reviews of foreign companies that aim to establish a presence in the United States. In 2005, 65 foreign companies were investigated, compared to 204 in 1989.

"We clearly have to do some things inside the departments, and we clearly have to do quite a bit in finding ways to provide you more promptly with the information you need," Kimmitt told the Senate Banking Committee.

Officials identified the Israeli suitor as Check Point Software Technologies, a company traded in Israel and the United States. Check Point has offered $228 million for the Maryland-based firm Sourcefire, which supplies security software for the Defense Department and intelligence agencies.

"Check Point and Sourcefire are both committed to working cooperatively with the committee during the investigative period," Check Point said in a statement.

Earlier this week, Congress was informed that CFIUS would undertake an additional 45-day review of Dubai Port World. The first review lasted for the standard 30 days.

"Dubai cannot be trusted," House Armed Services Committee chairman Rep. Duncan Hunter said. "I intend to do everything I can to kill the deal."

son of a prophet said...

FEDERAL PRISONERS SOON TO BE USED IN LABOR CAMPS???








Its Real: Prison Labor for the Military

We received an interesting news tip yesterday - and one that we find quite interesting. It has to do with official plans of the US Army to enact something called the "Civilian Inmate Labor Program." The general idea is that with troop manpower running low, and local demand for prisoner housing running high, the US Army can pick up some cheap labor from the Federal Bureau of Prisons and perhaps State prisons.



As you may recall, we reported a few weeks back that we've heard that troops are in such short supply in Iraq that ordinary seamen off Navy Trident subs are being given quickie training as sentries, rather than serving on strategic missile platforms, and off they go to Iraq. Now, with the receipt of the Army plans to use federal prisoners for labor, we have to ask what kind of picture this paints of the military's state of readiness?



Specifics of the program, outlined in official Army Regulation 210-35 at http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf include some of the following:

The newest set of changes quietly went into effect 14 February 2005.

The unclassified regulations describe their purpose as follows: "This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations. Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section 2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the demonstration project authorized under Section 1065, Public Law (PL) 103–337. Otherwise, State and/or local inmate labor from off–post corrections facilities is currently excluded from this program."

"(2) Under no circumstances will the following types of inmates be permitted in the Civilian Inmate Labor Program: (a) A person in whom there is a significant public interest as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in coordination with the installation commander. (b) A person who has been a significant management problem in their current corrections facility or in another facility. (c) A principal organized crime figure. (d) An inmate convicted of a sex offense or whose criminal history includes such conduct. (e) An inmate convicted of a violent crime or whose criminal history includes such conduct. (f) An inmate convicted of the sale or intent to distribute illegal drugs who held a leadership position in any drug conspiracy, or has been involved with drugs within the last 3 years while in prison. (g) An escape risk. (h) An inmate who poses a threat to the general public as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in coordination with the installation commander. (i) An inmate declared or found insane or mentally incompetent by a court, administrative proceeding, or physician, or under treatment for a mental disease or disorder. (j) An inmate convicted of arson. (k) A Federal inmate convicted while on active duty, presently serving a sentence for that conviction.

In short, this seems to be a low key program, perhaps driven in part by state facilities that are trying to find "creative ways" to offload minimum security inmates because of the huge number of prisoners in US prisons today. Nevertheless, some of the wording is troubling:

Chapter 3 Establishing Civilian Inmate Prison Camps on Army Installations 3–1.

Policy statement It is not Army policy to solicit offers from correctional systems to establish civilian inmate prison camps on Army installations. Nevertheless, the Army recognizes that these correctional systems may approach installations to lease land on which to build corrections facilities, or to lease unoccupied facilities. The Army will evaluate requests to establish civilian inmate prison camps on Army installations on a case by case basis. These prison camps will house minimum and low security inmates, as determined by the correctional systems. However, the Army’s primary purpose for allowing establishment of prison camps on Army installations is to use the resident nonviolent civilian inmate labor pool to work on the leased portions of the installation.

The regulations are not particularly complex, and are an interesting read if you have worries about the Army building prison camps at which a nonviolent civilian could be impressed. Has as kind of World War II-ish kind of ring to it, doesn't it?

KYHOOYA said...

Toco

There is just nothing eles for you to do is there? you live for this Blog, it's become your daily T.V. Soap like day's of our lives. (not to be confused with S.O.P)who is not a T.V, SHOW. Come on, Get a grip, Pull yourself together man! I mean not that I give a shit, and I've started to injoy your new found likening for word like Fuck,Asshole,Dick ECT... and such, But can't you see how much time you spend here? and for what?
To trade biblical interpatations with S.O.P what's the point?

If you came on here to warn people and to offer the other side to this hole "Picture Book Story" that has invelopt so many than I think that you have done just that and now have cross over.

Let me ask you this, what was it That made you make this statement in the first place, ("I'm through, it's pointless to keep trying, I've wasted enough time here already, I have a life to live") ect.ect.ect.....?

I would have to beleave it to be some brief momment of FOGGeST-OH-LIFTeST, not to be confused with (FOGeST-O-LEFTwingEST) Cus. that's Another story, One that as I think about it, would be better suited for a more special trained person someone thats more connected on the Higher-in-Powered people, Hey! Maybe someone like (SOP) could fill that spot.
You Think just maybe?

Dude get a grip and take a few step's back and I say this with the fore thought that when you did posted that your were done hereand would check infrom time to time That you had done just that! but it took you less than 24 hour's to get sucked back in.
TAKEN A STEP BACK.
do a puzzle, work in the yard, do some art's & crafts anything has got to be a better use of your time than this.
No matter how you look at it. Don't you think?
But hey, No sweet off my highly protected so the... ("G" CUT THEM OFF,"BALLS")

What you do is your business, just a thought from the outside. Now that's about it from me on the "NICE SIDE", Two time's is my limit when it come's to this shit. So don't go getting any ideas you still need to wake up Dickwade your a fucking losser and always will be, your a pethedic piece of trowl shit, so get of your lazy, red eyed about to spill over the side of the chair from all that fat-lard ASS of your's get out there and get a fucking real JOB! Cus that pices of shit PAYCHECK WANT-A-BE you sent me. Whatis that what you call a copy of your paycheck or is it some kind of lame attempt to pass it off as one in hope that I would'nt no the differance. Come on dude don't you think I've seen a acct's sheet from a payroll copany before , alls that show's is that you can go through a garbage can why don't you at best show a real check with all the name and anything that I.D's you as being the owner on it blacked out so you can't read it. What? it was a joke right? maybe we should scan it up here and see what everyone think of it. get there thought's if it's anything close to what you said you would be offering up as proof. By the way no one made you offer that nether that was your doing, so don't be falling back on that B.S. "I don't have to prove anything when Kurt make's and brakes his word all the time. Everytime I hear you say that I have to think what a hippo-critt you must be for real. Because if you can come on here and point a finger at someone and say that there telling lie's, Then excuse yourself for doing that very same thing as if it make's it all o.k. how did that old phrase go ...
Oh it escapes me right now, But I'll bet you no it right?

Now that's said I feel sooo muuuch betterrr,
I was starting to get all sticky from that sappy asss nice talk shit.

L8R You-ALL q8^}>~

neodemes said...

Back to the topic of Dorean clients:

Good news!

Dr. Fred has announced he will help y'all out for only $150.00/hr.

What a guy!

son of a prophet said...

neo said....

"Actually, there is some seeming contradiction on the subject..."

Luk 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Mat 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.


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Actually, there is no difference between the two, howver, again, high level discernment is required to understand the first one.

the first one is a parable of the highest level.

remember, Yeshua was always 'testing' even his disciples to see if they 'get it'.

the first one was said to see if the disciple understood that the sword is useless in the coming battle.

certainly, the apostle could not have hung around Yeshua all this time and not begin to see how Yeshua thought. nonetheless, Yeshua constantly tested them by setting 'traps'. only by this way can progress be determined.

exactly why Yeshua spoke in parables. the HS is required to decipher their meaning. those w/o HS discernment could not understand and is gibberish to them.


'...those who see but cannot believe; those who hear but do not understand...'

this is why there are many churches who are leading their flock to perdition.

the bible speaks about this, they would all agree, the time of the apostasy, but cannot conclude rightly, that it is a time in the future. they are wrong. its time is now. all organized churches are apostate and all true belivers will leave them...


"...come out of her my people, lest you suffer their wrath..." (that God is going to put on them for their false teaching)


as 501c inorporations, churches are agents of the state, whether or not they believe it or acknowledge it. the state as an arm of the govt. reps the anti-chirst

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