Sunday, March 26, 2006

The Walk of Faith (3/16/06)

I leave this as my dissertation of truth to explain to you what this journey has been. Though there have been many ignorant comments and commentators I would not want you to remain ignorant. This walk of Faith is highlighted because it is required of all men to please God, because it is the measure of all of you as to your own success and failings, and so that all can see that the ways of God are better than the ways of men. At first appearances men judge that because we went to jail and were accused of serious crimes that we were bad or evil. Notice though their double standard in judgement. We are bad so we suffer but they suffer not of their own account but are justified in placing the blame upon us. Men of faith do not have ears to hear such folly of the wicked. This reasoning is adolescent at best and incapable of understanding the ways of God. I may never meet some of you but I give you my life bound to truth as a gift that will bring you life, and that life being full of abundance.

Dorean was not a mortgage elimination company, scheme, artifice, or device to defraud. It was a righteous trap to ensnare wicked men who hold seats of honor in our world. It was set out as a cure, a remedy. It just so happened that mortgage fraud was the perfect vehicle to get to the matters of the heart. It dealt with your core issues of greed, trust, wisdom, apathy or diligence. It dealt with government as to integrity, honesty, greed, tyranny or service. It dealt with us as to honor, cares of this world, endurance and trust. One thing about God is He knows how to create the perfect storm to test the extremities of all parties effected.

Now in this backdrop our walk of faith had these markers that are constant to all walks of faith and are shared here to encourage you to find these markers in your own life as an anchor for your hope.

What is our hope, who is our hope? Both answers are Jesus the Christ. He is both the object of our hope and the subject of our hope. As the objective it is the Person of Christ as the subjective it is His ways. Before I go into the objective which justifies the subjective I will attempt to thoroughly explain the subjective by the walk of faith known as Dorean to this world.

The subjective walk of faith always begins in the ordinary course of life. Scott was an honest Christian businessman with great ability to organize and complete tasks. I was trained in estates and trusts, securities, contract law, banking and had been to prison. We were friends and challenged each other intellectually. Bank fraud became a topic of interest and we became thorough investigators. Mortgages became the focus for us because of its significance to the average family and the subject of credit was too broad to become prolific. After study we sought out those claiming remedy and studied them. Only then did we become aware there was a void in character and remedy in the market. Nothing super spiritual is happening here we are merely businessmen seeing an opportunity and a wrong which could be addressed. We continued to do the best we could as we cut a path through uncharted territory. We tried to buy the best help and information. We placed all our effort into a path of honor that we thought would be respected. Attempting to train a staff lawyer in hopes that he could codify our truth into the language of the court. Taking 17 cases into the federal court we drew Judge Alsup who went ballistic and threatened us with criminal prosecution. It was this response that first exposed to us our true opportunity for doing something greater than a change in the mortgage industry. This response exposes the judicial puppetry of the bankers and prolific corruption that provides no remedy for the people regardless of truth in their transactions. If we prove or can prove fraud in the contracts but the fiduciary is an owned agent of the fraudsters truth cannot prevail! Trained in truth by Christ we became aware that fixing the painting of the mortgage industry was secondary to repairing the torn canvas of justice. Here a choice had to be made; quit because the fight just got immensely bigger or grow my faith to apply a bigger portion of God to solve a foundational problem. Each side made their choices and each stoked the fires of their resolve. They used FBI and bully tactics. We used refies and media. They made criminal preparations and we made it clear that they were wicked, spineless, political hacks. Fear or faith has to be chosen here when the stakes are life and death. The Christ I believe in is either true and authority over the insubordinate agents or they will have their way with me. Christ the man had to choose the forever settled word or not put His life on the cross. Men of faith put their life on the line. Though Christ can easily defeat these arrogant fools He has certain methods or ways to consider.

First He never sought His own way. He always lived to reveal the spoken word of the father. The goals of my life even if just, had to become secondary to a revelation of the spoken word of God. God has already said He abhors injustice, that Christ has all authority in Earth as in heaven, without faith it is impossible to please Him, the faith of Christ saves, the governments are upon His shoulders, God moves the hearts of Kings and changes them at His discretion. The man of faith sees a circumstance that appears to defy the word of God and sees an opportunity to bring truth. Elijah appears on the scene in I Kings 17 exactly in this manner. There is no mention of this man prior to this moment. He lived in the desert and saw the government worshiping idols as forbidden by God with the warning it shall not rain. Well it was raining. Is God a liar? Perhaps faith applied here solidifies Gods word. Elijah choosing the immutability of Gods word and honor over his own comfort stood against evil. He a desert dweller would suffer most by a drought but reasoned he would suffer immensely more if the God he served had a word that was not reliable. We in the normal course of life arrived at the same place. Our fed government is no less powerful than Ellijah’s. We suffer most by confronting it, but prefer to know that God’s word is true and that every man is a liar than to enjoy the comforts of this world. Christ knew not only the word of God but also that the hour had come. There is a timing a season of fulfillment that must also be measured in the acts of obedience. A father may ask a son to get the car washed but not desire it at 2 a.m. God made it obvious we have discovered a void, a pocket of rebellion in defiance of His word but was this the right time, the moment in history for the fix. Time was needed to ferret this out. Though Utah is not blessed to receive their fix and cursed for their evil participation they were the tool to provide this time. The time to gain the wisdom and courage and to bridge the distance from knowledge to providence. Now knowledge of the timing and time of the action stir a man of faith to arrive with confidence at the point of destiny. God has blessed the USA. We are outside and on the restoration side of our 2520 years of punishment. We were punished for these same sins practiced by the Northern District. Our remedy is not destruction but mercy if God is true. Christ assures this by word and deed and we know God chastises His children in mercy but mercy is not apathy or slack. Next to consider is world prophecy and other governments. I’ll just say timing adds up here also. What about the work of the church; a match. There are about 15 tracks overlaid here to harmonize the symphony of God’s timing that confirm in heavenly tune that the timing is now. That men of faith were brought to this moment in history for such a time as this.

Last to all the confirmations of word is the heart of courage. The word is the voltage but the courage of the man of faith is the current. That zap or strike called at a particular moment needs both to be grounded as it were from heavenly to earthly. God being tender and nurturing knows just how to encourage His servant men. He gave us faith trophies, which are certain gifts that can only be obtained in faith. Some of these are lost in time and give credence to God’s timing. Some that stand out are listed here without great detail but mentioned for your comprehension to find your own trophies in your own battles.

1. Is our building. We chose many months ago not to sublease to bet on God’s deliverance. This was not reasonable, logical, or even smart business, but was a faith stand. After the 21st we lose this trophy of faith and reason appears to be a better choice.
2. Many counselors offered logical defenses and practical remedy to protect Dorean and clients from this onslaught. We felt God had a greater remedy. Our deliverance by God becomes a trophy to faith as opposed to reason.
3. Is God a provider? We gave away to Him our defense to trust Him. Not reasonable again.
4. I have a personal trophy over 20 years old that would appear to be a lie if allowed to be destroyed. It has had many confirmations to be true over time and would lose a major trophy (undisclosed) if this battle continues.
5. Scott would lose the souls of his children to a stupid ex-wife who doesn’t know the ways of God. This is a serious trophy of promise.

There are dozens of others but you will understand how to spot these in your own battles. Trophies give you a hope. There are other things as well. Timely words of people, prophecies, books from previous heroes of faith, divine touches of spirit etc. They all reflect God’s tender mercies towards His children. There are volumes that could be written here but enough has been said to inspire the chosen without enlightening the fools.

The subjective means nothing if the objective Person, the Christ is Himself a fraud. He is sold in this stupid world as a good and wise teacher respectable as any other great thinker. No recognition of divinity is required. Well this moniker is not one made available by the actions of Christ. He only gave you the cold-turkey choice of supernatural or super nut. He was who He claimed to be or Insane. Those who never come to this choice are lazy, unwise, and self-absorbed. Having settled this matter 30 years ago all the ways of God become persuasive. Faith will trust them even to what appears to be one’s own hurt because the forever settled word of God is an extension of the fixed and static, immovable integrity of the person of God. Who as creator has all rights Title and interest in His creation. Faith has the courage to respect title and to restrain the soul of trespassers.

43 comments:

son of a prophet said...

nice posting.

having said that, let me give some onsolicited comments.....


we know waht you are doing and what and how your faith has carried you thru.

however, unless writing constantly about scripture strenghtens you, i would begin to refrain writing about scripture on your header blog and more about the progress of your battle with the 'g'.

not for any other reason, but that if you continue, you risk making yourself a martyr for your cause, and not for Yeshua.

remember, Yeshuas crusade for Truth, cost Him his life, and UNLESS this is what you wish, start to tone down the scripture on your blog and just deal with DG events as much as possible, because there is a point at which the line becomses crossed and it is a very dangerous one to cross. no matter how faithful you are, you can get transfixed by what you are doing and risk getting "all puffed up" and then Yeshua Himself will chop you down as He sees that it is not aabout Him, but about YOU and YOUR CAUSE (AND OURS)

yes, Yeshua did in fact turn over the money changers tables, and He was right to do so, but remember, all this cost Him his life, so unelss you want to take it that far, tone down the scriptural relevancies to what you are doing. just do it and Yeshua knows your heart and dont worry about what others will write here.

agian, i think what you do is honorable and would hope that you see this as CONSTRUCTIVE CIRTICISM and not in any way to demean what you are doing.

your level of HS understaning will determine how you interpret what i have written. hopefully, it will be seen as helpful.

rembember, the case of Ananias and Sophira; they LIED to the HOLY SPIRIT and no sooner finished telling their lie, when they DROPPED DEAD ON THE SPOT.

MAXIM: LIEING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT ENTAILS GRAVE DANGER.

MAY THE PEACE OF YESHUA BE WITH YOU.

habakkuk said...

SOP said...

yes, Yeshua did in fact turn over the money changers tables, and He was right to do so, but remember, all this cost Him his life

ACTUALLY, HE LAID HIS OWN LIFE DOWN. HIS ACTIONS DIDN'T TICK THE AUTHORITIES OFF UNTIL THEY FINALLY CRUCIFIED HIM AS IF THEY WERE PUSHED TO THEIR BREAKING POINT. THEY HAD NO CONTROL OVER HIM THAT GOD HIMSELF DIDN'T GIVE THEM ALREADY.

MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS EITHER A SPIRITUAL BATTLE OR ITS NOT. IF IT IS, THEN I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH KURT USING SPIRITUAL WEAPONS (THE WORD OF GOD). EVERYTHING NATURAL/ VISIBLE WAS MADE FROM THE INVISIBLE/SPIRITUAL. SO WHICH IS PRIORITY?

tcob247 said...

SOP.....

You are telling Kurt to tone down the scripture on the blog???????



LOLOLOLOL

What about you?

Just in case you didnt notice, this is Kurt's blog and not yours

Why dont you go start your own blog?

Oh I know

Nobody would read it.

you will know them by their fruit said...

THE JESUS YOU HAVE CREATED FOR YOURSELF IS A FRAUD. His children know his voice and you are false.

Jesus turned over those tables because he found a group that was scamming in His name. PERFECT EXAMPLE. Fraud was taking place all over the land, but He reserved His anger for those who were robbing folks in His name. Kurt to a "T".

Matthew 7:15,16

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits....

neodemes said...

"He reserved His anger for those who were robbing folks in His name. Kurt to a "T"."

Actually, Kurt didn't start the religious blather until after he was busted.

So when he says "Dorean was not a mortgage elimination company, scheme, artifice, or device to defraud. It was a righteous trap to ensnare wicked men who hold seats of honor in our world." it rings pretty hollow, doesn't it?

It would have been mighty nice of him to let folks know they were nothing but bait for his trap if that's what he was about.

I guess someone had to be collateral damage...

son of a prophet said...

i support what kurt is doing.

howevr, i dont agree with what you ahve said...


"MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS EITHER A SPIRITUAL BATTLE OR ITS NOT. IF IT IS, THEN I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH KURT USING SPIRITUAL WEAPONS (THE WORD OF GOD). EVERYTHING NATURAL/ VISIBLE WAS MADE FROM THE INVISIBLE/SPIRITUAL. SO WHICH IS PRIORITY?"
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it goes without saying that everything IS a spiritual battle; HOWEVER, kurt is not in iraq and trying to convert muslins to chirsitanity. there is a huge difference. kurt IS usinging Yeshuas strenght to fight goliath, true.

howweer, as the rewards will be monetary, NOT SPIRTIUAL, (ie., will those who get their title cleared and settlement money, all of a sudden convert to christianity?? no, they are poebably already christians just looking to get out of debt, granted a fraudulent one)
and if he fails, did Yeshua fail
??? of course not!

so, i stand by waht i say, continuing to drag Yeshua thru this battle entails risk and danger. this is what my HS wisdom tells me. sorry.

i didnt have to say anyting at all avbout it.


remeber, i am not telling kurt not to pray, or anytihng like this, just keep the scriptual refs to what he is doing to a minimum. he is not in iraq quoting scripture to muslims here. and the danger is going to far, and then its too late. he should just continue to read scriputer everyday and pray, just not associate to much his success or failure to Yeshua. when he WINS, THEN GO ALL OUT WITH PRAISE. WE DONT KNOW YESHUAS ULTIMATE PLAN. HE MAY WIN, HE MAY LOSE, HE MAY LOSE BUT WIN ON APPEAL. ETC. ETC.

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he will do as he will anyway, but i believe that after he has had time to think about what i have said, he will agree with it. life itself is a spiritual battle, DG or no DG.

truth is sometimes hard to accept at first.

willtoflght said...

Neodemes,what a misguided ....... jerrrrrk.

Gforce said...

SOP----I for one am very encouraged that Kurt is "dragging" Yeshua into all this. Jesus' blood was shed and sealed the New
Covenant so that the righteous would be free from ALL oppression.Is54. Don't you think He would have a vested interest in a fradulent and oppressive system of finance that hovers over the righteous? The transfer of wealth from the wicked to the righteous in the last days has been prophesied long ago. Even if we were not in the last days of this age, the righteous are promised freedom from ALL oppression. Possession of money and wealth has a lot to do with the inheritance of the righteous and preaching the gospel throughout ALL the earth and then the end will come. You are right, DG will win--in God's timing and God's way--Kurt and Scott WILL BE VINDCATED.

willtoflght said...

Gforce, your right on the money!.

Peanut Gallery said...

SOP said

so by your logic, the ppl in china or russia who cannot do the feasts and celebrations of them as you say must still be done, CANT worship YESHUA????

WHATS STOPPING THEM.
BTW MANY BELIEVERS OLD AND NEW ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE DOING JUST THAT.


what, so YOU are a better christian than them, or stand before Yeshua any closer than them??? you are t-r-u-l-y cluless of the HS, BUT ALL KNOWLEGEABLE OF THE LAW. YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PROSECUTOR WODRKING FOR THE 'G'

DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH NIMROD

you have shown your total igonorace of the HS, taht is why i do not respond to your questons, you do not have any HS understanding, or probably compassion either. like i said, a pharisee, and dont compare yourself to paul, paul was refferring to himself befoer he wsas converted.

NO YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR TOTAL IGNORANCE BY NEVER BACKING UP MY QUESTIONS W/ SCRIPTURE

COME ON HS MAN SHOW ME DA SCRIPTURES

tcob247 said...

TIME HAS EXPIRED
NO BIG SUPRISE IS IT?

Dr Fred said...........

Kurt shared that this will go away in a spectacular fashion and many mouths shall be stopped and surprised. The week of the 20th is the time that you shall see the hand of God performing.

Mogel said.....

" At least at this point in time, an oddsmaker would have to side with Dorean due to history alone.

Kim Clement said.......

A blessing from GOD would help people be debt free in 2006. The link below is a prophecy from him in January and it talks about this blessing happening in March - six weeks before the prayer request from Dr. Fred.


Sherri H said.........

I can't wait until next week! Get the crow ready boys! TCOB, we will fill your belly next week!

habakkuk said...

i think deep down tcob really knows we are actually going to win this battle

imbigo said...

FIRE UP THE GRILLS, NOW SERVING...
1.B.B.Q. CROW
2.SMOTHERED CROW
3.FRIED CROW
4.CROW KABOOB
5.SMOKED CROW
6.CURRY CROW
7.WELL YOU GET THE MESSAGE!

WillToFight said...

Brilliant!!!!

It is coming to pass. Just Brilliant. Unstopibly Brilliant!

tcob247 said...

Sherri H

My belly is empty

Are you going to fill it for me?

What about your "prophet" Kim Clement?

Tony Tuba said...

Tcob, unlike the many on your side, I will admit when things aren't going my way. Yes it does appear that Dr Fred might have been a little to eager for some good news. I'm sure he did not misguide us on purpose. Dr Fred, Kurt and Scott still keep fighting. That's what I lean my hope on.

son of a prophet said...

gf,

i still think that he has already said enuf about Yeshua and all.

i think that he should just focus on the task at hand and not write so much about scriptual relevancy to what he is doing.

remvbember, scrupture is meant to be used to witness and for conversion of the non belivers, and in this manner as he is using it, that is not beign done. i think its playing with fire.

i am just trying to help.

he must judge whether my intentions are for good or bad as the HS gives him wisdom.


this is the reason many many pastors in churches take a downfall. they get 'puffed up' and forget why they are there. it becomes about them and not Yeshua. they start to believe their own hype and before you know it, Yeshua Himself chops them down. they have become the 'nicolaitans', whom God hates. those that belive that they are better or closer to Yeshua than the rest of the christians. dangerous territory to be in.

same as those early new christans that insisted the law must still be kept.


and the pastors in churches who believe that 'they' are saavign ppl, not the HS. this comes form getting too 'puffed up', but Yeshua chops them down.


the HS allows a very wide berth for a christian in my experience. He doesnt tell you always what is right, but begins to tell you what is wrong, gently at first and gradually more forcefully if you continue on the wrong path.

as i keep reading kurts blog, today i just got the feeling that it becoming uncomfortable to read, whihc to my previous experiecne with the HS means that something it beginning to go wrong. and taht 'something' is to much scriputaral relevancy to what he is doing. he has said it enuf times now.

take it for waht its worth. just trying to help.

my exp has been honed dto where when i start to feel something begin to be in error, it usually has been.

remember, Heb. 6, Yeshua will not allow a christian to continue to shame Him. he will send gentle reminders and more moderate ones, up to and including 'taking someone out' if He has to, as otherwise, if one continues in error, this allows ppl to point the finger and say, "look, there is the 'christian' "

gives Yeshua a bad name, and He wont allow it for long.

fixerone said...

I don't mind Kurt's scriptual perspectives, but I do agree that an update on where things are at would be nice. After all many of us are faithfully waiting. We have made a faithful investment through faith and money.

In the least it would be nice if Dr. Fred could send out an email update to those on his mailing list.

fixerone said...

I don't mind Kurt's scriptual perspectives, but I do agree that an update on where things are at would be nice. After all many of us are faithfully waiting. We have made a faithful investment through faith and money.

In the least it would be nice if Dr. Fred could send out an email update to those on his mailing list.

willtoflght said...

Good post SHERI!, Your right on.

willtoflght said...

fixerone,Dr.Fred just sent out a new e-mail to the faithful.Contact him for your copy, of the March up date.

dgwondering said...

"The Christ I believe in is either true and authority over the insubordinate agents or they will have their way with me."

Well that tears it for me. Daring Jesus to act or not act on your behalf to prove your point is pretty conclusive. I'm not wondering any more. Even reading this blog should be chalked up to entertaining blasphemy.

willtoflght said...

dgwondering, just go back to your sand box, and play, forget the blogg, to many negitive posters anyway.

neodemes said...

Life's little ironies:

Address used for CCR

CCR
601 S. Pioneer Way
Suite F-300
Moses Lake, WA 98837

Same address as 'Faith to Faith Friends' run by CCR's web dude, Rich Brimer

Faith to Faith Friends 106 S Pioneer Way, PO Box F300 Moses Lake

http://www.f2ff.com

LOL

Justice7777777 said...

Sherri said . . .

"I'm sure he did not misguide us on purpose"

Holy cow! Which Dorean story have you been watching?

Just two more weeks. Hang in there.

Oh brother. Don't you guys get it? It will always be two more weeks. Even after conviction. Even after they have served 5 years, 10 years, 30 years. It will always be "just two more weeks".

WillToFight said...

Justass in your adolesence, you would still deny us the answer to the question. Is "mortgage banking" fraudulent?

Can we get an honest answer?

I am sure you would rather we did not, you agree with fascism, don't you?

Kurt said....

Taking 17 cases into the federal court we drew Judge Alsup who went ballistic and threatened us with criminal prosecution. It was this response that first exposed to us our true opportunity for doing something greater than a change in the mortgage industry. This response exposes the judicial puppetry of the bankers and prolific corruption that provides no remedy for the people regardless of truth in their transactions. If we prove or can prove fraud in the contracts but the fiduciary is an owned agent of the fraudsters truth cannot prevail!

WillToFight said...

Kurt said....

If we prove or can prove fraud in the contracts but the fiduciary is an owned agent of the fraudsters truth cannot prevail!

Would those that disagree with Dorean say that this opportunity should not be a right of Dorean, and that all banking practice, i.e. ledger, accounting be bought into evidence?

Would there be any agreement here Justice7777, Neodomenes, etc, etc.?

son of a prophet said...

well, it looks like the 'webbots' were right again, as the had previously predicted some 'event' on the week of mar 21-26.

well, some 'event' has happened.

no question taht the estimated 500,000 ppl immigrants marching in LA qualifies as an event.

most strikeing, is that first, that is a lot of ppl. and 2nd) tah t the govt. allowed it. (or more likely caused it; no way you can organise 1/2 a mill ppl without help from the illums)

thats means just as i said about jobs; ie., if you manufacture something, it will soon all be done in china, and if you are in the sevrice industry, your job will soon go to a mayheecan.

comprende muchacho????


how you gonna pay you mtg. with no job??


better hope the DG wins!

WillToFight said...

NeodomenesStillKnarling/Knashing said...

So when he says "Dorean was not a mortgage elimination company, scheme, artifice, or device to defraud. It was a righteous trap to ensnare wicked men who hold seats of honor in our world." it rings pretty hollow, doesn't it?
___________________________

You are a hypocrit.

You just pick and choose portion of the writing to make a worthless point. It does not ring hollow at all. You wouldn't see the forrest for the trees, idiot!

Why are you here?

WillToFight said...

Taco said...

TIME HAS EXPIRED
NO BIG SUPRISE IS IT?
____________
Idiot, How can Dorean control what the courts decide in relation to the docket, hearing trails etc.

No defense has control over that!

WillToFight said...

Justass777, Neodomenes, where are your reactions to stories like this?


Mainstream Media Blackout On Sheen 9/11 Piece
Controlled gatekeepers and delusional Neo-Cons attempt to kill story

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | March 22 2006

Despite a huge reaction amongst the alternative media to Charlie Sheen's comments on 9/11, in part due to a brief link on the Drudge Report which was mysteriously pulled after a few hours, newswires and entertainment outlets have actively sought to impose a blackout on the story.

son of a prophet said...

MUST READ!!!

story here->

http://www.ken-welch.com

tcob247 said...

WillToFight said...
Taco said...

TIME HAS EXPIRED
NO BIG SUPRISE IS IT?
____________
Idiot, How can Dorean control what the courts decide in relation to the docket, hearing trails etc.

No defense has control over that!

...................................

Hey dumbass

Looks like you are the IDIOT
I'm not the one who said that God had decreed that it would be over last week.

I believe Kurt and Dr Fred are the idiots who made that statement

Along with you who believed it

MR.....

Brilliant!!!!

It is coming to pass. Just Brilliant. Unstopibly Brilliant!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

If you had believed it you would have bet me $1000 for my challenge

NOBODY believed it
I dont blame yall

Peanut Gallery said...

Nemo said,

Life's little ironies:

Address used for CCR

CCR
601 S. Pioneer Way
Suite F-300
Moses Lake, WA 98837

Same address as 'Faith to Faith Friends' run by CCR's web dude, Rich Brimer

Faith to Faith Friends 106 S Pioneer Way, PO Box F300 Moses Lake


Wrong again Nemo. Rich was not the CCR webmaster as you so erroniously stated. The real webmaster also did a web page for F2F and allowed them to use the existing address.

This address was set up by Travis Leudke, who left CCR to persue other endeavors that have bilked many people out of a total of several 100K's dollars and has since disappeared to Mexico. Now there is a real criminal, not Kurt and Scott

Tony Tuba said...

I've seen when dr fred comes on this blog and responds to someone who needs help with their situation. So i'm hoping he will respond to this. Dr fred can you give us any new information? How are Scott and Kurt doing after last weeks poor example of judgemanship.

watcher said...

to all those who take god out of their box and use him as a puppet, and you know who you are,

as a dog returns to its own vomit, so is a fool to his folly, so are those who use god for their own devices.
what was it again that your god was going to do again last week?

or is it this god you have fashioned is one that is man-created and formable for your bidding that does what you tell it to? or perhaps it tarries and was away on holiday last week?.
so either your god is wrong or you are, I wonder which one it could possibly be.
perhaps you still are not able to receive from the real creator yet.

do yourself and everyone else a favor, dont ever use, "god will" in a sentence or communication again for the rest of your concious existence. you'll be glad in the long run.
consider you really shouldnt be speaking for a god that you like to think you know, and enjoy trying to convey to others that you are aligned with this god, that you obviously do not and are not, proven by your own methods and words yet once again that it did not come to pass. let me guess, you're going to say it was god's fault somehow and you are still correct in some way soon, right. that somwhow god lost his power to the court last week?

you were obviously not put here to be in any position to be speaking on behalf of the creator. correction, maybe for your god that you fashion, you do indeed speak well of, and your self-serving methods are considered acceptable.
there are words for these fill in the blank gods, that people use to justify any means for their ends, they are called idols. formable, bendable, use them to justify whatever method you wish and whatever message you want to convey and speak on their behalf for your self-serving result, like the majority of mankind does. almost the exact definition of man made religion with god sprinkled in somewhere in between for desired effect.

but do continue in posting your alignment with this god, it reveals what you truly are able to understand and comprehend, or lack thereof.
your negative comments that flow from ego will not change that which is true, but serve only to solidify your belief in such.

tcob247 said...

WELL SAID

willtoflght said...

tcob, you probably didn't read the post just above your last post.

son of a prophet said...

watcher said....


"....to all those who take god out of their box and use him as a puppet, and you know who you are..."


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i dont believe that kurt is taking god out of a box.

i do believe that he need sp;iritual stregth for what he is trying to accomplish and just thought that by relating it to scripture, that doing so is a good thing.

AND I DO BELIEVE TAHT IT IS....UP TO A POINT.

but just as sports players have coaches...or as they say..."coaches coach, and players play..."


i dont believe that anyone is capable of both at once. i could not do what he is trying to accomplish. and i dont believe taht he can be totally objective as to how he is being perceived in constantly referencing every action that he takes to scripture.

thats why i said taht i now believe that he just needs to focus on the task at hand. IF it be Yeshuas will, then its already accomplished and it doesnt need to be compared constantly to what Yeshua did or what God did in the OT.


remember, IF Yeshua is NOT helping him, he already NEVER GETS THIS FAR.

he would of been stopped a long time ago.

tcob247 said...

Willie.....

Are you speaking for me now????

I was replying to the post right above me.


Did you see the one I posted for you?

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Hey dumbass

Looks like you are the IDIOT
I'm not the one who said that God had decreed that it would be over last week.

I believe Kurt and Dr Fred are the idiots who made that statement

Along with you who believed it

MR.....

Brilliant!!!!

It is coming to pass. Just Brilliant. Unstopibly Brilliant!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

If you had believed it you would have bet me $1000 for my challenge

NOBODY believed it
I dont blame yall

Gforce said...

It is "God's will" that "no weapon(evil scheme) formed against the righteous will prosper, and EVERY lying tongue that comes against you, YOU will condemn. This (peace, righteousness, security, TRIUMPH OVER OPPOSITION) is the HERITAGE of the servants of the Lord; this is the vindication that they obtain from me, SAYS THE Lord."Is54 Amp.para. --

son of a prophet said...

"It is "God's will" that "no weapon(evil scheme) formed against the righteous will prosper, and EVERY lying tongue that comes against you, YOU will condemn."



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very very poweerful verse, taht i have already been quite familiar with myself for a long time.

some caveats to rememvbre tho;



this as writtne in the OT applied strictly to jews at that time.

it sort of applies a little differently in the current times that we are in.

while it is true that no weapon shall prosper against the workers of the LORD, this applies to the workers of the LORD spreading the Gospel; ie., trying to prevent the gospel from going out, not necessarily to tryiing to correct the banking system or any other corrupt practice. agian, this IS satans kingdom.


if no weapon were to prosper in THIS world, all the apostles would have lived to a ripe old age; yet every one of them but John was killed while spreading the gospel.

and john (the 'beloved' apostle, becuase Yeshua kept him alive longer than all the others and did not share their fate of murder) was kept alive so someone could wdrite the book of revelation.

somehow, i dont think kurt wants to be a martyr right now.

Peanut Gallery said...

This was also written in the OT so it must also only applies to the Jews at that time.

Thou shalt not have sexual relations with animals.

Thou shalt not lie with another man as you lie with a woman

Have fun SOP

willtoflght said...

tcob247, this is willie, there you go agin, running off at the mouth agin.As always.....ZZZZZzzzzzz.

neodemes said...

"remember, IF Yeshua is NOT helping him, he already NEVER GETS THIS FAR.

he would of been stopped a long time ago."

He was!

champ said...

stay strong My brother
The Champ Alexio