Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Introducing My Great God (4/1/06)

God is part of the subject matter of this forum because He is at the core of life. The mortgage is at the core of just about everybody’s financial life. Here the two meet for a lot of people. Some men enter large battles foolishly but most prayerfully consider their path. Many of you detractors ridicule my reliance on God and think I use it as a front. Some have even said I didn’t talk of Him before jail. Well to this there are a couple of thousand witnesses that you are wrong. Your retorts are that you know God and I’m a liar. Let’s examine your Great God. He has not taught you love, but that might not be one of His traits. He has not taught you caution otherwise you would not have fallen prey to a cheat. Perhaps He can’t overpower the will of a man. Maybe He doesn’t know the future and can’t forewarn. Your God appears to be no more powerful than your reason. But then again if you are His creator what more could you expect. A mental idea or a wooden idol is still a dead God that doesn’t exist. My God whom you claim to know which name you slapped on your idol is not my creation. He has already defeated 10 felonies. Given me wisdom and courage. Forewarned me of perils. Taught me love hope and courage. Shared and gave me opportunity to use His model of victory by shame and weakness. Now the Feds who thought their play book of breaking men (99% reliable) would bring them sure victory, (they never imagined it not working because the man was already broken) are now trapped by their own folly they don’t know the cure to continue their fraud. They have to convict which is impossible and I won’t quit. Perhaps your idol is not that clever in dealing with His enemies. Maybe He is just sleeping. Hang in there He’ll prove Himself in the end.

39 comments:

oksurewhynot said...

"God is part of the subject matter of this forum because He is at the core of life. The mortgage is at the core of just about everybody’s financial life."

No, mortage is only at the core for those that can't or won't pay for the house they agreed to buy. A) sell the house B) rent

"Many of you detractors ridicule my reliance on God and think I use it as a front. Some have even said I didn’t talk of Him before jail."

If the shoe fits...

"Well to this there are a couple of thousand witnesses that you are wrong."

Where? ???

"Your retorts are that you know God and I’m a liar."

Retorts? what retorts?

"Your God appears to be no more powerful than your reason."

Sing it brothers: My God is better than your God, my God is better than yours!!

"Given me wisdom and courage."

yea, ok, let's move on....

ricco7777 said...

Hang in there He’ll prove Himself in the end.
Hey Kurt and Scott....some children of Jesus fully appreciate the sacriface your making! You all do the same!
Rich-Colorado Springs

wantobefree said...

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH WHERES MY DAM MONEY AT IM WORKING 20 HRS OVERTIME A WEEK TO MAKE UP FOR THIS SCAM.THERE WASNT NOTHING METIONED ABOUT GOD WHEN YOU CASHED THAT MONEY ORDER.

oksurewhynot said...

"Hang in there He’ll prove Himself in the end."

What? God doesn't have to prove himself. So what are they doing in there? Why don't you join them?

imbigo said...

oksurewhynot said...
No, mortage is only at the core for those that can't or won't pay for the house they agreed to buy. A) sell the house B) rent

FYI...& ???

Have you been paying any attention to what has been taught here?

Dont you know if you have a mortgage its already been pay for over and over and over again?

If want to keep giving the real crooks your money (the bankers) keep right on paying!!! you have no clue to wants really happening here, and I fill sorry for you.

To all you so called and self proclaimed scholors, and prophets, the bible says "judge the spirits by THE SPIRIT wheather they be of GOD"... which spirit are you hearing?

wantobefree said...
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH WHERES MY DAM MONEY AT IM WORKING 20 HRS OVERTIME A WEEK TO MAKE UP FOR THIS SCAM.


YOUR ALREADY FREE AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW IT WHAT A SHAME!!!

BUT YOU FIRST MUST CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART.... THEN YOU WILL TRULY BE FREE!!!

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP!!!

ZUP EVERYBODY!!!

HAPPY RESURRECTION WEEK!!!!!

HE IS RISEN!!!

oksurewhynot said...

"Have you been paying any attention to what has been taught here?"

Taught? You mean like in Christ Kurt's teachings? Teaching implies you know something. So that rules out anything being taught here.

whyudothat said...

kurt said..
They have to convict which is impossible

tell that to Irwin Schiff.

just-the-facts said...

Let's see...mortgage of 80K plus closing cost, etc...etc...etc...no money down (yeah), 30 yr note (signature) house cost 230K...Got it. What a deal? (Forthebank)

tcob247 said...

Kurt (messaih) says....
"My God whom you claim to know which name you slapped on your idol is not my creation."

Translation...I am the only one who knows God, you all dont have a clue.

" He has already defeated 10 felonies."

Does that include the first time you went to jail for fraud and scam?

"Given me wisdom and courage."

OK

"Forewarned me of perils."

If that is true, why are you in jail and why was your lunch money stolen?

"Taught me love hope and courage."

Is that why you placed a curse on your wife so have breast cancer?

Just-the-facts and Imbigo...

If you dont like the mortgage industry.....DONT USE IT!!!!
Otherwise....make payments until you pay it off according to their terms.

IMBIGO....one more for you...

That is a typical response by a Doreanite to someone (wanttobefree) who actually believed Kurt's promises and paid money for it to occur.
Then you lambaste him and tell him he is already free!!!

LOLOLOL
Yah ....that piece of paper that said my mortgage was free and clear sure worked
It made good toilet paper.
Yah....and Kurt is free too right?
Or is it just a mind thing?
We are captive in our minds because we dont believe you?
LOLOL

son of a prophet said...

neodemes said...



If you want to fight bank scams, go for it.

But

Don't use the perception of bank scams as an excuse to fill Latvian bank accounts, at the cost of those conned into your scams.

Its just wrong.

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IF....one assumes that the banks are scams/frauds, then one must assume those that protect them are frauds, then one must assume that nay money(ies) that one uses to fight this issue is subject to confiscation by alphbet soup agencies, then one must assume that the only place to protect clients monies must necessarily
be OUTSIDE the jurisdiction of the alphabet soup agencies, thus this would be why money could have been sent outside the country to a 'safe haven' pending resolutin of the issue.

of course, this ASSUMES that banks in Latvia or wheever, themselves arent corrupt??

son of a prophet said...

J and K Global - the old Rent and Mortgage program of 2000


If you were part of the Rent and Mortgage program back in the year 2000,
you may want to go to http://www.jkglobalreceivership.com/index.htm
which is the website of the receiver for the government agency dispersing what's left of any refunds and sign up for a refund.

wantobefree said...

imbigo-EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IM FREE AND I DONT KNOW IT.

son of a prophet said...

With all the sites now covering the upcoming religious holidays, I thought that I would offer my thoughts on an important issue:

SHOULD ONE CELBRATE EASTER/PASSOVER?


The first answer is EASY!
But doing it is hard. NO. Easter is a roman pagan holiday.

Yes, I will be 'celebrating' easter with family and friends. its impossible to convince anyone not to, but i do at least tell them that it is a pagan holiday.

am i beign a hypocrite?
sort of, but then again, i say that i have HS wisdom, but never say that i am not a sinner or perfect. just that i know what 'perfection' is.
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Regarding passover. As a Christian, i feel that the answer is no.

true, the OT does tell the Israelites to forever keep the feast day and celebrate it. HOWVER, this was before Yeshua came to become the ultimate sacrifice for sin and tore open the curtain to the temple, signifying the END of any and all sacrifices for sin.

I would say if one is a jewish NON-BELIEVER on Yeshua, then they should celbrate the passover.

Just bear in mind that celebrating th e PASSOVER does not mean that one believes on Yeshua.

Possession of the Holy Spirit determines this only.

Be aware that I did NOT say, "KNOWLEDGE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT".

there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Just like there are COUNTLESS MILLIONS of Christians and Jews who can recite the bible forwards and backwards, and can tell you ALL ABOUT YESHUAs life AND ALL ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT, but they DO NOT POSSESS THE HOLY SPIRIT.

they are fooling themselves. the knowledge of yeshua or of the holy spirit alone is not going to get it done. it is only possession of the HS that makes one a christian. thats why i do not debate ppl on the bible or scripture, becasue there are many, many who are more knowledgable about the bible than me, both the OT and the NT. but this knowledge makse them feel secure in yeshua, but they are fooling themselves.

so, regarding passover, its like the same deal. there are jews who keep all the feasts and holidays, and know whey more because of their tradition about yeshua, becasue yeshua was jewish, than i could ever HOPE TO KNOW IN A LIFETIME.

but these same jews do not realize that woithut possession of the HS, THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF YESHUA AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH.

they could fool the avg. christian, as the avg. christian looks up to their pastor who can recite the bible chapter and verse, forgetting that without the HS possession, that they are not even saved.

this is why i do not 'debate' in fourms or anywhere.

i simply state my wisdom given to me by the HS and let it go at that.

PEACE OF YESHUA BE WITH YOU.

WillToFight said...

Tell It Like it is Kurt!

___________
OkNOTsurewhyNOt

You can't know what you don't understand! You can't get what you can't get!

habakkuk said...

SOP said....

Regarding passover. As a Christian, i feel that the answer is no.

true, the OT does tell the Israelites to forever keep the feast day and celebrate it. HOWVER, this was before Yeshua came to become the ultimate sacrifice for sin and tore open the curtain to the temple, signifying the END of any and all sacrifices for sin.
__________________________________

I know where your coming from and i sense u are a good Christian man but i hope that one day soon the HS will give u a revelation of the significance of us celebrating the Passover Feast (and all the Feasts).

Paul kept the feasts (read Acts 18:21, 1 Corinth 5:8)

Most importantly G-d says they are HIS FEASTS or HIS special days that are to be celebrated forever (Lev 23:2). Its not a jewish thing nor a christian thing. Its a G-d thing. Of course we know there is so much revelation and fulfillment when we realize that Yeshua is our passover lamb and there is no more need for animal sacrifices. And we now take communion in rememberance of his sacrifice.

Why do u think throughout history there have been demonic atempts to snuff out the celebration of the feasts?.....Constantine made it illegal to celebrate it....and now we have easter.

G-d is a G-d of seasons and timing and if we flow with his timing we can be blessed all year round. The passover season is the beginning of the year (according to G-d) and it sets the tone for the rest of the year.

The devil hates this season because he knows the power in it.

mogel said...

On conference calls, Kurt has told Bible stories from time to time & has related these morals to the story to his motivations & to the process. Any person in the process that doesn't understand this, hasn't truly kept up with all of the talks that both Kurt & Scott have given in the past. As individuals, I would have liked both of these men even if I weren't in the process, just by listening to what they had to say & their deep convictions. Con-men don't have deep convictions. They are only self motivated.

At the convention in Las Vegas Kurt mentioned his Christian roots in many statements. There were thousands there at the conference. Not everyone there at that conference was in the process or had paid fees at the time I'm sure. When I was in California, Scott PERSONALLY told me "he was a christian believer" even before I was in the process. That statment or his inclination to tell me that came out of nowhere at the time I thought. Not even sure why he brought it up to me, other than he probably felt inspired to do so.
Come on people, give Kurt & Scott a break.

On the Utah case, Kurt beat 10 felonies & let's not forget Scott beat 13 felonies. The score is 23-0 at this point & it is the 4th quarter. I feel comfortable with that lead. And if you want to count the false charges of the State of North Carolina, the score should be higher. How many of you naysayers believe that history repeats itself? Those that want to just pick out certain statements & mock them on this blog, go ahead & do so, but all of your words will condemn you in the end when victory happens & the Federal charges are dismissed. Those that mock have no vision, and as it says in the Old Testament, "those with no vision perish". Those that can't be perceptive enough to see that Kurt has everyone's best interests at heart are truly blind or proud or both.

willtoflght said...

GREAT POST, MOGEL!.

tcob247 said...

OK Mogel....

First of all, anyone can tell Bible stories. Satan himself quotes scripture. (I'm not saying Kurt is Satan)
Second, I was at the Vegas conference. There were not "thousands" there. Thats a bit of a stretch. At most there were 400-500. Yes he did mention his Christian "roots". David Koresh had Christian roots.

"On the Utah case, Kurt beat 10 felonies & let's not forget Scott beat 13 felonies. The score is 23-0 at this point & it is the 4th quarter."

Weren't those charges dropped so the Feds could prosecute them?

"all of your words will condemn you in the end when victory happens & the Federal charges are dismissed."
IRWIN SCHIFF>>>>IRWIN SCHIFF


"Those that can't be perceptive enough to see that Kurt has everyone's best interests at heart are truly blind or proud or both"

If that is true he would not have lied and said it was a proven process with hundreds of success stories. After he gets arrested he tells us we were guinea pigs. NICE!

Go ahead and revere him as your leader but dont make him out to be something he isn't

son of a prophet said...

hab, my brother....


remember one thing, the bottom line...and that is whether one has POSSESSION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT or not......

that is the deciding factor...if i have the HS in me but dont celebrate feasts, i go....if you celebrate feasts but do not possess the HS, you dont go....simple as that....

AND....if you say that if i had the HS in me i then i would celebrate feasts....that is not true...because i am a sinner...so on the very extreme chance that i am wrong about not celebrating feasts....Yeshua knows that I am a sinner....my sin would be not celebrating feasts while the person that does celebrate them probably commits another sin that i am not committing...so it becomes a wash...and the deciding factor STILL becomes....DOES ONE POSSESS THE HOLY SPIRIT?....


this is what they should be concering themselves about...not about whether one celebrates feasts, for the reasons previously given...

son of a prophet said...

regardng ppl criticzing k&s, remebrer, God used all kinds of ppl....i dont remember all the kinds that he used, but some were like......


noah....a drunk

moses.... a killer

david....an adulter and a killer

and on and on.....

in fact, none of them were perfect except yeshua, if i remember correctly.

this leads me to believe that one must go into the pits to go into the sky...ie., the farther the fall from grace, the greater the potential for understnading and HS wisdom....

i actually believe taht most murderes in prison today, have the potential to gain greater HS wisdom than the avg. person...NOTE: I SAID "POTENTIAL"

this does not mean by any means that all of them do...i just think that if they truly applied themselves, that they wuld realize that they have already been given a heapful of grace and could parlay that into graeater HS understanding.....


REMEMBER: "WHERE SIN ABOUNDS, GRACE ABOUNDS E-V-E-N M-O-R-E.

this shoudl be self evident, as the fact that the terrible sinner is still on this planet alive, means he is already cashing in most of his "Grace Bonds" from Yeshua, otherewise, he would have been taken out a long time ago.

habakkuk said...

Hey tcob,

I'm curious...Are u a client of Dorean?

mogel said...

Tycob: You said: "Weren't those charges dropped so the Feds could prosecute them?"

Why would you believe that? Kurt & Scott were first extradited to Utah, were they not? If the Feds in CA wanted to press charges FIRST they could have done that if they wanted to initially when they were in CA. The extradition & all the fanfare to Utah & the stay there & Court trial was a waste of time, pure & simple from an observors point of view.

The FEDS in CA did not choose to prosecute first, so it's hard to buy your statement. When they were arrested in CA there were only 2 charges. Later, extra charges were brought by the State of Utah to buy more time. It is obvious to me it was a hurry up effort to get them off the streets & to disrupt their business & Dorean's ability to effectively & timely finish people through the process & to "divide & conquer" and further disrupt Dorean's credibility & to make clients angry and disillusioned.

Sure, anyone with Christian roots can mislead, but wouldn't you rather follow someone that at least claimed to be Christian & tried to back up their claims with their actions, rather than someone who preferred to be an atheist with no moral values such as lacking courage & fortitude to finish the race. Rather than looking for reasons why you think this is all a failure or won't work, why not look at reasons why it will & can work?

It was a proven process for a while, not to say it isn't a proven process, because the battle is not over yet. If the Courts can't prove fraud, then, the process must be accepted as being legal. If the process is legal, all the mortgage discharges must be accepted as valid, pure & simple & the process IMMEDIATELY becomes a proven process due to the Court's default to show no wrong. That's why in my opinion, Kurt said that it was the stupidest thing to do to bring criminal charges into the Court's domain. There are 3 things that are difficult to prove: (1) fraud, (2) rape, & (3) Murder. Remember OJ Simpson got off, did he not? Look at all of the evidence against him in the criminal court. It wasn't enough to convict him & he roams free in FL, a state where it's difficult to get at assets.

The banks have used the Court's to justify their criminal actions. If the Court's can't back up the banks actions, then, the banks are in real trouble in relation to all of the Dorean clients. Don't you think that all of the hundreds of thousands of documents that are entered into the Criminal Court's records in California
are probably all of the client's paperwork challenge to show a paper trail of justification of why all clients mortgages SHOULD BE LEGALLY DISCHARGED & acknowledged as such? If the Court defaults, EITHER THROUGH DISMISSAL OR LACK OF EVIDENCE TO SHOW CRIMINAL CONDUCT, THEN, THE COURT'S ABILITY TO PROTECT THE BANKS IS GONE as far as clients are concerned.

Then, the Court's must acknowledge
all of those records filed in Court as evidence that all of the client's mortgages ARE IN FACT, FREE & CLEAR. Maybe you got out of the process prematurely? Do you want to reconsider your past actions & repent? Maybe it's not too late even for you?

Now if you were a financial instrument buyer oversees, & had all of this as extra evidence of the validity of the judgment against the banks, & the legality of the Dorean Process,
wouldn't you be more willing to pay cash for these debt instruments?

I thought at one time, I wrote down that there were 2 billion in judgments for Dorean clients. That probably is a low figure. Still think this is not worthy of being reported on CNN?


Scott's lender did not foreclose until after 2 years. That is very unusual. For a long time, it was believed that his lender would not foreclose because of the long time factor & Scott's house was labeled a success for a long time. It's interesting is it not, that the lender waited that long to foreclose? It wasn't until after the Judge Alsup trial that things started to change. Maybe the lender was waiting for Judge Alsup's Court proceedings & the press to put on more pressure on the process & to label everything a scam first for World Savings to justify their illegal foreclosure activities against Scott.

Irwin Schiff still has many justifications for an appeal. I don't think it is over for him. His case is surely different from the Dorean Process case. If you want to know of a success against the IRS, just look at the Bannister case. You can either be postive or negative. The choice is yours.

tcob247 said...

mogel said...
Tycob: You said: "Weren't those charges dropped so the Feds could prosecute them?"


That wasnt a statement I made.
It was a question.

Habbakkuk...

I was a client
I fired the trutees for mishandling my trust

mogel said...

"A ship is SAFE in harbour, but that's not what ships were intended to do."

Does a con-man take the safe or the dangerous route? What do con-men do? They use flattery & words & mind manipulations to get what they want & make sure that they do so at no or minimal risk of Court or jail. A con-man does not take great risks & lacks courage & does not put their freedom, luxuries & assets on the line, so to speak, so all of those that want to label this process a scam, don't understand the psychology how con-men work.

For those that want to bad mouth the Dorean leaders, don't understand the high risks & costs that are being paid, but the grace & the benefits in the end is for all clients & is for all intents pretty much free.I think "Dorean" means free, someone once said. You don't even need to believe to be a partaker of the financial benefits in the end, how easy & generous is that?

habakkuk said...

Tcob said....

"I was a client
I fired the trutees for mishandling my trust "

Yeah, but cant u still benefit from the settlement (if there is one) if u can document u were a client?

habakkuk said...

mogel said....

Does a con-man take the safe or the dangerous route? What do con-men do? They use flattery & words & mind manipulations to get what they want & make sure that they do so at no or minimal risk of Court or jail. A con-man does not take great risks & lacks courage & does not put their freedom, luxuries & assets on the line, so to speak, so all of those that want to label this process a scam, don't understand the psychology how con-men work.

MOGEL, THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE....EVEN POLICE DETECTIVES WHO STUDY HUMAN BEHAVIOR WOULD TELL YOU THATS WHAT CON-MEN DO. AND BY THE WAY, CON-MEN DONT INVITE THE MEDIA TO INTERVIEW THEM SO THE WORLD CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOIN.

tcob247 said...

habakkuk

#1
There will be no settlement

#2
If there is, I dont want it

#3
see #1

habakkuk said...

mogel said...

"You don't even need to believe to be a partaker of the financial benefits in the end, how easy & generous is that? "

Thats why i think its hillarious that tcob, fruity, and the rest of the naysayer super friends will be happy even if they were wrong...because like the rest of us they'll be walkin around with a loaded atm card. And like i said before, TCOB, FRUITY, Justice -7777, and the others will be retiring their usernames and will at that point cease to exist as bloggers. But the real tcob (mr. x)will be taking his 20th trip to disney world thanks to the dorean "scammers".

I can see the commercial now:

"Hey Tcob where are you and your family going this summer now that the dorean case has been dropped"

TCOB: "we're goin to disney world...Weeeeeeeee"!!!!

habakkuk said...

tcob said...

#2
If there is, I dont want it

CMON NOW...YOU DONT EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT DO YOU? THE REASON YOU BECAME A CLIENT TO BEGIN WITH WAS BECAUSE U WANTED A FREE AND CLEAR MORTGAGE AND MAYBE A LITTLE SOMETHING EXTRA TO BOOT. AND NOW YOUR TELLING ME U DONT WANT IT BECAUSE OF PRINCIPLE....CMOOOONNNNNN!!!!

CAN U HEAR EM TACO? THE WHOLE DOREAN BLOGG COMMUNITY IS LAUGHIN AT U RIGHT NOW....YOU DONT THINK WE'RE STUPID, DO YOU?

drhfred said...

Well we see there is at least one who will stand by their conviction and I have an affidavit ready to send to you Tcob247 allowing you to recuse yourself from any of the settlement and hold no one harmless. All I need is for you to send me a private (I shall share your name with no one) communiqué via e-mail. I shall with dispatch send that document to you to be signed and notarized, and when the settlement is finalized I shall on your behalf donate 10% of the proceeds to any charity of your choosing in yours or family name if you wish. Likewise at the same time I shall cut you a refund cheque in the amount of all the funds Dorean collected from you for the mortgage elimination either for the first, second, etc. By the way this proffer is for any and all that wish to partake.

habakkuk said...

Tcob,

So what do u say bro? Dr Fred has made u an offer that a man of true conviction like yourself cant refuse. A portion of your settlement can go to the charity of your choosing.....wow...what an opportunity to do something wonderful for those in need.

Dr Fred,
Thank for that offer:) Please keep us posted as to whether tcob has taken the offer....prooving he is the man of principle he leads us to believe he is.

tcob247 said...

Dr Fred....

I take you up on that offer.
In a heartbeat

Let me just make one thing clear though

You are saying that you will send me my $4,500 now when I sign the affidavit, not when the settlement occurs right?

Why would you all not think that I would take that?
It's a good deal!
I bet MANY more will follow.
Wait and see

Answer my question please Dr Fred and then send me the instructions

Thank you

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wantobefree said...

MOGEL;SHUT YOUR DAM MOUTH YOUR THE BIGGEST SCAMMER THERE IS.

mogel said...

Want To Be Free: What financial incentive do I have to defend the process at this time? Biggest scammer there is??? That's quite a statement. YOu have the advantage of knowing me I would assume, but I'm not sure who you are. I could guess however. That's hardly fair that you have the advantage here in that I'm not sure who I am talking to. It's difficult to be hostile to someone I don't know.

I defend the process because I believe it will be successful. Why are you so hostile & tell me to shut up? Have I said that to you? I seriously doubt I will shut up simply because you said so. Did you really think I would listen & obey that request? Obviously you don't believe things will work out well. I suggest you take Dr. Fred up on his offer.

neodemes said...

moogie sez:
"It was a proven process for a while"

NO, it wasn't. It was only marketed, heavily, as a proven success.

That is called lying, moogie, and you continue to promote the lie.

Hab sez:
"YOU DONT THINK WE'RE STUPID, DO YOU?"

Yep. Pretty much. LOL.

Hey, Dr. Fred, moogie explained how y'all were nice enough to put the client monies safely in a Latvian bank.

How about putting the money where your mouth is and pay them all back their fees NOW if you are so cock sure there will be a settlement coming?

You ARE that sure, right?

KYHOOYA said...

Mogel

What a great post. This is by far the best post & explaination I seen on hear .
If only I could get my point across as clear as that in so few word's .If they can't understand it after that then they never intended to and there part in this, to help try & put a stop it. the fact is that they have nothing to say back to you. they deserve nothing of anyone's time after this any more time spent is useless. Although I no how har it is to stay quite when around you is the sound of fools

Hab
You to as for your effort if there were more here that saw the bigger problem and could look beyond them self's what a wave we could make.

Not that any of you need telling this but let's face it we all like to be told every once and again right? ways go to no your doing good right?

and go's for anyone that fill's these pages with a positive nature over the neg.

THANK'S


q8^)> \/piece

KYHOOYA said...

whyudothat said...
kurt said..
They have to convict which is impossible

tell that to Irwin Schiff.

12:24 AM

sure thing it's nice to no that the people that we all rely on to carry out the law in this country are in powered to do what ever they want to and disregard anyone's basic right to due process and a fare trial. then get that new out to people and you would think that there would be some rally for this man's right weather you think he is right or wrong. think about it Only by the grace of.....

irwin was told by the judge that he had put any ??? he wanted to ask in hi (jury trail) in writing and give it to the judge &and he would let him know if he could ask that or not this all the time acting as his own defence lawyer. the other two defendants were not asked to do this one rep by atty. who said "that there was no way that he could of defended him self with the trems the judge" What a set up like the ??? to be ask in a jury trial that can't be asked. What could he have said that was so bad that the judge had to stop it from happening. Don't let that make any diff with you thought you just keep on keepin on and hope you never find your self in need of the same rights that he did'nt get no big deal right? who needs things like right to full dicovery or due process or right to present any evd. in you def. those are no big deal who needs them anyway is that your stand on this matter aswell as the one you have here God help us all! were doomed! if thats the way this country thinks

every man for himself and fuck the rest

Youpeople don't get it at all the only way to get change in positive dir. is that you have to rally the masses there not going to change because someONE walks up and said " you better or all alll alll ... well you just better come on people you all want the cake with out the work what a lazy country we have become

I wounder what's going to happen next?


the pres. vote rigged & proven dist. w/653 reg. voters & he got over 4000 votes my my howed they dooo that? must be specials sause or something like that huh?

RIGHT IN PLAIN SITE, AND WE STILL CAN'T SEE IT COMING OR STOP IT!

It's like sitting across the street and watching your house getting robbed and doing nothing , just watch go ahead just keep watching everyone your going to be fine

nothing a that you should worry about you just keep your eye on and soc.sec. will be there to cover your ass when it's time to reti. no problem

I thought that when you put a ceiling or fix rate or cap on something that that was it there was no going past that I guess I was wrong cause I have seen c cards take a % rate from adj. to default fix rate and than if your go they then take that same FIXXED RATE and lower it ti the then going adj. HOW DA DO THAT?

HOW ABOUT THAT NATIONAL SPENDING CAP FOR THE GOV, 8.2 TRIL NO MORE THAN THAT WELL o.k WE CAN GO HIGHER HOW ABOUTT 9 TRIL BUT NOT A PENNY MORE o.k.? ANOTHER FIX THAT SEEMS IT'S NOT FIXED BUT HEY IT SOUNDS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU RIGHT'S THEY SOUND GOOD ON PAPER DON'T THEY

gOOD LUCK HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE TO FIND OUT
MAYBE BY THEN SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE STEPPED UP AND TOOK ON THAT FIGHT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN RELAX ISINT THAT NICE FOR YOU.

HEY "Right on!" now that's funny ha!ha!

l8r

habakkuk said...

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Drhfred said...

Likewise at the same time (of the settlement disbursment) I shall cut you a refund cheque in the amount of all the funds Dorean collected from you for the mortgage elimination either for the first, second, etc.