Thursday, May 25, 2006

Court Date (5/9/06)

The date was crowded with lawyers and defendants. After ancillary business we were handed the report from the Psyche with the intentions of performing the ferretta hearing. I took a little sidestep that appeared to me too great an opportunity to pass up. As you are aware there is a tremendous amount of drama to sell Court TV as reality. The State provided a witness and an assessment of my mental state and abilities, which is the fertile ground to verify my objective reality in my environment. Against the Judge and prosecutor's objection we managed to get a hearing to examine this witness on the 11th. I will update you on this after the fact but this is my goal; To have a 3rd party expert from the State verify I am a natural human of flesh and blood, a man with a mind that he assessed. The court's goal is to pretend the Strawman fiction is me. They do this by adhesion contract and not answering declaratory questions. I will have their witness lay the foundation for my separation from the Strawman. This petty particular is at the core of jurisdiction, which is the threshold of procedure. I cannot precede under a presumption only a fact. The good news is your trustee's are factually competent.

59 comments:

WillToFight said...

Kurt Said....

I cannot precede under a presumption only a fact. The good news is your trustee's are factually competent.
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Now Mogel I know you agree! That sentence from Kurt is one of the most important facts that all of us must use on our own behalf. Otherwise we contract with them under their jurisdiction and they can proceed against you on presumtive evidence not fact!

With RFID forced vaccinations and others liberty taking actions, we don't have a lot of time folks to understand what is going on!

WillToFight said...

Oh and you will most likely loose because the deck is stacked against you!

Presumption v. Fact!

Hey Kurt

I agreed that you were and are my Trustee chosen by My wife and I!

WillToFight said...

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern
/?articleid=9036


Eavesdropping, Gagging, and the Constitution

by Ray McGovern
http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=9036
Is the National Security Agency being "turned against the people," as the Congressional committee led by Sen. Frank Church warned might happen? We the people cannot know; it's classified.

son of a prophet said...

HEADLINE NEWS:

Wizard of Oz loses battle to STRAWMAN©


lol!

STRAWMAN SAYS..."I always knew I had a brain....the length of the hypotenuse of an isosceles right triangle is equal to the square root of the sum of the squares of the opposite sides...."

son of a prophet said...

BIRD FLU ON THE MOVE!


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son of a prophet said...

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jackie said...

Yes willtofight but he told me to call him as soon as I got all my paper so he can tell me how to open the bank acct.but no answer. there 3 of us here in miami waiting for him.I myself am leaving to Europe from 5/29 to 6/11 so I wanted to do that befor thank you.

dgwondering said...

Kurt allegedly said: "The good news is your trustee's are factually competent."

The bad news is their legal argument is doodoo.

Peanut Gallery said...

dgwondering said,

"The bad news is their legal argument is doodoo"

So dg, why don't you expound point by point just how their legal argument is doodoo?

Or is this just another "drive by" comment from you to make yourself feel important?
I would argue that you can't/won't explain why the legal arguement is doodoo.

mogel said...

Peanut Gallery: "Pauli Girl" somewhere on this blog presented a bunch of cases that apply to this Strawman argument. The information she presented is not favorable to Kurt's position. Just the other day, I was doing a credit report dispute & typed in my name in small letters. After I finished typing my name, my name automatically shows up as all Capitalized letters without me doing anything? I thought that was a little strange. Hey, I didn't even have a choice how my name was spelled on my credit dispute. Try telling the Drivers LIcense people you don't want your name in all Caps on your drivers license. They won't allow that either. If it's not such a big deal as "PauliGirl" has suggested, why is there no choice? That's a contradiction even she can't answer.

The problem with "Law" is that you get two lawyers with opposing interests citing a bunch of case precedences that supposedly support their position. The problem is that different Court precedences can support either position. So how does a Judge decide sometimes? I think when the Judge gets perplexed, the Judge just goes back into his chambers & just flips a coin sometimes & comes back with His decision. That way he can make it ontime to his golf appointment with little effort. Hey, it happened to me recently, the Judge cited no law whatsoever in reference to his opinion of judgment. His decision was based upon NOTHING. NO FACTS WERE PRESENTED IN THE COURT BY THE JUDGE, NOR BY THE DA. The Judge just gave his opionion & he expects me to honor it. Very strange how the Court system works sometimes. LOL

WillToFight said...

SOP

STRAWMAN SAYS..."I always knew I had a brain....the length of the hypotenuse of an isosceles right triangle is equal to the square root of the sum of the squares of the opposite sides...."
__________________
lol
Just love it!

Many don't realize the Wizard of OZ
was really all about?

WillToFight said...

Jackie

I think all will be done. Relax!

There are still hurdles to cross.

get your all you paper work done. Send it in to be notarized. When you get back you whould be able to open the account.

All you need are signatures. Then you open the account.

WillToFight said...

Mogel I take that as agrement?

NO FACTS WERE PRESENTED IN THE COURT BY THE JUDGE, NOR BY THE DA. The Judge just gave his opionion & he expects me to honor it. Very strange how the Court system works sometimes. LOL

We can LOL lol but the populace must quit being in acceptance of just your situation!

WillToFight said...

Peanut

I guess there was no reason to respond to me! Although you made all those juvinile allegations?

WillToFight said...

Dog

So dg, why don't you expound point by point just how their legal argument is doodoo?

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I'd like to hear that too!

newgurl said...

WillToFight said..get your all you paper work done. Send it in to be notarized. When you get back you whould be able to open the account. All you need are signatures. Then you open the account.

are the trustees signatures needed to open a account?

WillToFight said...

Of all forms of tyranny the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of plutocracy” : John Pierpont Morgan

=
We have got rid of the fetish of the divine right of kings, and that slavery is of divine origin and authority. But the divine right of property has taken its place. The tendency plainly is towards ... “a government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich.” : Rutherford Birchard Hayes (1822–1893),

++++

I'll tell you, if this is not exactly is going on now but on a much greater/global scale.

neodemes said...

"The court's goal is to pretend the Strawman fiction is me."

They really don't care if you are KURT F. JOHNSON or Kurt F. Johnson or kurt f. johnson.

Go ahead, try the nom de guerre argument. Can you name ONE case where somebody won using it?

All you will do is further destroy any credibility your 'process' has.

neodemes said...

"After I finished typing my name, my name automatically shows up as all Capitalized letters without me doing anything?"

Gosh, it MUST be a consipracy, moog. Good thing you noticed.

OR

The computer programmer who wrote the program that captures user input knew enough to idiot proof the program so if someone entered thIeR nAMe, the data would be saved in an organized manner as THEIR NAME.

The programmer could have chosen to format the entry as Their Name, but
the program wouldn't be able to distinguish names like McDonald or McPherson, etc., so why not standardize form input as all caps?

Would all lower case, i.e., their name, be less sinister to you?

oksurewhynot said...

Reality check
The court will play for awhile and then reel it all in - like a dealer at a Vegas table.

Pray for these 2 misdirected souls.

whyudothat said...

the user, indeed, whoever you are.

you have till next week, june 1st,you said all charges would be dropped.

ahh, you care to put your money where your mouth is?

papertiger said...

If the court can't admit they have a body in custody then what gives them the right to accuse you (the body) of a crime? Once they admit they have captured a body, the game is over, because they have to produce an injured party. (Habeaus Corpus) If the goverment cannot admit that you are a body, then how can there ever be a crime? No body = crime.

WillToFight said...

Neodomenes Said...

Go ahead, try the nom de guerre argument. Can you name ONE case where somebody won using it?
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If all charges are dropped then, effectively there was no case Neodomenes.

Think you Knome! I'll give it to you, your trying!

Furthermore, the very fact that you can define a portion of the tactic (nom de guerre) Kurt is employing gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective.

Just because you wish ill upon everyone in this process, shouldn't allow you to push B.S. upon the unsucpecting! It also shows your lack of courage!

Your days of buying foreclosed and confiscated property are numbered NeoFascist!

WillToFight said...

Neodomenes Said...

Go ahead, try the nom de guerre argument.
______________________

You make that statement like someone (Kurt) should have confided in you before using this tactic!

lol!

Your an arrogant......

WillToFight said...

Gnome

neodemes said...

"gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective."

OK will, show us a case where it has worked. Just one. Please.

WillToFight said...

You don't read very well Neodomens!

You don't think very well either!

WillToFight said...

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CNN

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Lou Dobbs says President Bush and Congress are part of an "elitist war on the middle class"

NEW YORK (CNN) -- President Bush says that the installation of the new Iraqi government was a "watershed event," but at the same time warns Americans of the challenges and loss as we continue to prosecute the war against Iraqi insurgents. Sen. Harry Reid declares that legislation that would render English the national language is racist.

Thirty-seven Democrats vote for full amnesty for all illegal aliens in this country, even though nobody really knows whether the number is 11 million, 12 million or 20 million. The Senate Republican leadership demands that a "comprehensive immigration reform" plan must be passed before this Memorial Day weekend. And the president signs into law a tax cut that raises taxes on the educational funds of teenagers saving for college.

Never before in our country's history have both the president and Congress been so out of touch with most Americans. Never before have so few of our elected officials and corporate leaders been less willing to commit to the national interest. And never before has our nation's largest constituent group -- some 200 million middle-class Americans -- been without representation in our nation's capital.(Watch why Dobbs said Mexico's leader is in charge of U.S. immigration policy --

See the rest of the story!

WillToFight said...

Furthermore, the very fact that you can define a portion of the tactic (nom de guerre) Kurt is employing gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective.

Ponder that for a moment NeoFascist!

WillToFight said...

If all charges are dropped then, effectively there was no case Neodomenes.

Ponder that Neo!

I have to break it down. Now if you spin this one there is no help for you!

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jackie said...

willtofight I do have all my paper notarized and trustbook that dr fred send me I just have to know how to open the bank acct. but my friend is missing her trustbook she got bank paper notarized but not the trust we all did all the paper work at same time thank you.

KYHOOYA said...

neodemes said...
"gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective."

OK will, show us a case where it has worked. Just one. Please.

So what your saying with this statment is that inorder for you use something it has to have been used before you?

That bring one question to mine for you
How is "CASE LAWS" that your saying is not on the books become Case Law in the first place?



Someone has to do it first don't you think?

No No realy DON'T YOU THINK!

mogel said...

"After I finished typing my name, my name automatically shows up as all Capitalized letters without me doing anything?"

Gosh, it MUST be a consipracy, moog. Good thing you noticed.


OR

The computer programmer who wrote the program that captures user input knew enough to idiot proof the program so if someone entered thIeR nAMe, the data would be saved in an organized manner as THEIR NAME.
__________________________

MOGEL REPLIED: IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WHY DID YOU SAY THIS: They really don't care if you are KURT F. JOHNSON or Kurt F. Johnson or kurt f. johnson. If they don't care, what the hell does organization have to do with it, assuming that it would be disorganized to put it in regular form: Kurt F. Johnson
You're a host of contradictions and your serious answers are even comical.


Nemo continued: The programmer could have chosen to format the entry as Their Name, but
the program wouldn't be able to distinguish names like McDonald or McPherson, etc., so why not standardize form input as all caps?

Mogel replied: "I'M NO COMPUTER PROGRAMER, BUT THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL THAT THE COMPUTER PROGRAM COULDN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU SAY THEY CAN'T. HOGWASH I SAY.

Nemo continued: "Would all lower case, i.e., their name, be less sinister to you?"

AS I POINTED OUT, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION IF YOU WANT A DRIVERS LICENSE. YES, THAT WOULD PROVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT WHETHER IT IS MY STRAWMAN OR MY FLESH & BLOOD PERSON.

Pauligirl said...

"Nom de Guerre":
According to a book written by Berkheimer, a "nom de guerre" is a war name symbolized by a given name being written in capital letters. The argument contends that because of events in 1933, we have been made "enemies" and government indicates our status as enemies by the nom de guerre. If this is true, then why have the styles of the decisions of the United States Supreme Court since its establishment been in caps? This argument has gotten lots of people in trouble. For example, Mike Kemp of the Gadsden Militia defended himself on state marijuana charges with this argument and he was thrown into jail. I have not even seen a decent brief on this issue which was predicated upon cases you can find in an ordinary law library. In any event, at least one case has rejected this argument; see United States v. Klimek, 952 F.Supp. 1100 (E.D.Pa. 1997).
From Destroyed legal arguments:
http://www.caught.net/prose
/deadissu.htm#Nom

and another case where it didn't work:
http://www.kscourts.org/ca10/
cases/1998/06/97-6282.htm

Defendants' assertion that the capitalization of their names in court documents constitutes constructive fraud, thereby depriving the district court of jurisdiction and venue, is without any basis in law or fact.
And a whole list of other cases where it didn't work:
Objections to name printed in block letters (all-caps
http://www.adl.org/mwd/
suss4.asp#capitals

KYHOOYA said...
"So what your saying with this statment is that in order for you use something it has to have been used before you?"

Nope, not at all. Anybody is welcome to use a new or novel defense in their own behalf. And sometimes, new and novel wins. However, when the same stuff is used over and over and each time it is declared a frivolous argument because it has no basis in law, that should tell you it's a bad argument.

Can anyone find a case where a defendant used the "all Caps/nom de guerre" argument and won on the merits of that argument?

And Mogel, that Strawman vs Flesh & blood person is just more of the same junk.

P

mogel said...

Nemo said: "All you will do is further destroy any credibility your 'process' has."

MAYBE NEMO, YOU COULD BE CALLED AS A WITNESS JUST SO YOU COULD BE ASKED ONE QUESTION: "DOES THE DOREAN PROCESS HAVE CREDIBILITY?"

IF YOU SAY NO, THEN YOU ARE REFERRED TO YOUR WRITTEN STATEMENT. IF YOU SAY YES, THEN, THIS HELPS REBUTT THE PROSECUTION'S 68 COUNT ALLEGATIONS. AFTER ALL, ALL OF THE CRIMINAL COUNTS REFER ONLY TO THE PROCESS ITSELF & ARE DERIVED SOLEY FROM THE PROCESS ITSELF. THE CRIMINAL COUNTS AREN'T ABOUT THE INJURIES TO THE CLIENTS, & BY YOUR ADMISSION THAT IS ALL YOU CARE ABOUT & THAT IS WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE KURT WIN. AS YOU INDICATED IN PREVIOUS STATEMENTS, THE COURT DOESN'T CARE WHETHER YOU REFER TO YOURSELF AS FLESH & BLOOD OR TO YOUR STRAWMAN, IT'S ONE & THE SAME. IF THE COURT DOESN'T CARE, WHY WOULD THAT PUT LESS CREDIBILITY UPON HIM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPIN ANOTHER LIE?

AGAIN, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS NEMO. AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES YOUR GLARING CONTRADICTIONS ALMOST EVERYTIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH?

P.S. I'M TYPING IN ALL CAP LETTERS SO YOU & YOUR COMPUTER CAN RECOGNIZE WHO'S SPEAKING. I'M ASSUMING YOU AREN'T AS SMART AS YOUR COMPUTER. PLEASE DON'T ASSUME THAT I AM ANGRY.

mogel said...

Pauligirl said: "If this is true, then why have the styles of the decisions of the United States Supreme Court since its establishment been in caps?"

WHAT DOES THE SYLES OF THE DECISIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FLESH & BLOOD HUMAN BEING VS. THE STRAWMAN? YOU LOST ME THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARGUMENT MEANS IT'S A BAD ARGUMENT IF IT LOSES EVERY TIME NECESSARILY, IT MIGHT MEAN THAT THE COURT'S CAN NEVER ENTER THE TRUTH INTO THE RECORD, JUST LIKE THE COURT'S CAN'T ENTER INTO THE RECORD THAT THE 'VAPOR MONEY" ARGUMENT HAS MERIT THROUGH A DECISION. SUCH A PRECEDENCE WOULD FLOOD THE COURTS WITH LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BANKS. THAT'S THE LAST THING THEY WOULD EVER WANT.

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Pauligirl said: "If this is true, then why have the styles of the decisions of the United States Supreme Court since its establishment been in caps?"

WHAT DOES THE SYLES OF THE DECISIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FLESH & BLOOD HUMAN BEING VS. THE STRAWMAN? YOU LOST ME THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARGUMENT MEANS IT'S A BAD ARGUMENT IF IT LOSES EVERY TIME NECESSARILY, IT MIGHT MEAN THAT THE COURT'S CAN NEVER ENTER THE TRUTH INTO THE RECORD, JUST LIKE THE COURT'S CAN'T ENTER INTO THE RECORD THAT THE 'VAPOR MONEY" ARGUMENT HAS MERIT THROUGH A DECISION. SUCH A PRECEDENCE WOULD FLOOD THE COURTS WITH LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BANKS. THAT'S THE LAST THING THEY WOULD EVER WANT.

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It's just that all-caps, strawman and vapor money arguments are bogus. Try it in court all you like. Let me know how it turns out.
P

neodemes said...

moogie sez:

"P.S. I'M TYPING IN ALL CAP LETTERS SO YOU & YOUR COMPUTER CAN RECOGNIZE WHO'S SPEAKING. I'M ASSUMING YOU AREN'T AS SMART AS YOUR COMPUTER. PLEASE DON'T ASSUME THAT I AM ANGRY."

Ooooh. I thought your strawman was typing. LOL.

Gosh, moog, you seem a little edgy lately. It'll be OK. Not to worry.

Let me put it this way.

If Kurt has a tight case and all his ducks in a row to nail the evil bankers and the feds down, why is he dicking around with strawman/flesh and blood/fictious bull shit?

He's like Custer at Little Big Horn...got the Indian's right where he wants them.

Can you say Massacre? Sure you can.

Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

neodemes said...

WillToFight
said...

Furthermore, the very fact that you can define a portion of the tactic (nom de guerre) Kurt is employing gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective.

KYHOOYA
said...

neodemes said...
"gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective."

OK will, show us a case where it has worked. Just one. Please.

So what your saying with this statment is that inorder for you use something it has to have been used before you?

That bring one question to mine for you
How is "CASE LAWS" that your saying is not on the books become Case Law in the first place?


Someone has to do it first don't you think?

******

Let's try to get on the same page...

willy said it has been effectively used before, I asked to be shown a case where it has worked.

I'm still waiting.

neodemes said...

WillToFight
said...

If all charges are dropped then, effectively there was no case Neodomenes.


******

If the IF is gone, then spout off, willy.

neodemes said...

moogie sez:

"IF THE COURT DOESN'T CARE, WHY WOULD THAT PUT LESS CREDIBILITY UPON HIM?"

Simply because it makes him sound like a whacko ... kinda like telling judges their houses are going to burn down.

Yetter said...

No court can make up rulings, the function of a court is to answer the question posed to it, and in order to pose a question a person needs standing. The petioner has to show that an action has occured which affects him,hence giving him that standing. The trick employed by the goverment is to get you to claim that you are an officer of that goverment giving the goverment juristiction to proceed against you via your oath.You must understand juristiction and the history behind it. Remember Jesus comanded that his followers "swear not at all". What did the goverment do to Jesus. It tried to obtain juristiction on the false oath of a witness, charging him with sedition for the out of context statement that he'd tear down the temple (burn the judges house). At that trial Jesus stood mute, refusing the oath. The judge became so frustrated that he posed a trick question " I adjure you in the name of the living God, are you the man". Jesus replied " you have so said". He didnt take the oath.Jesus tossed the false hood back where it belonged, back on the court. The court couldnt get juristiction.So are Kurts words the rantings of a Kamakazi pilot?.

WillToFight said...

Neodomenes

At this point "If" is the logical verbiage. I can't read the future can you?

I believe the question was the tactic Kurt is employing. I think YETTER explains it very well.

If you would think critically and with fact you could understand that because dom de guerre is itentifiable than it must and has been used as a defense.

What you fail to realize is that the courts have enjoyed duping us into giving them jurisdiction. You just can't seem to get it through your head.

I understand though! You only which ill on this process.

WillToFight said...

Newgurl said....

WillToFight said..get your all you paper work done. Send it in to be notarized. When you get back you whould be able to open the account. All you need are signatures. Then you open the account.

are the trustees signatures needed to open account.

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No, the signatures need to be on the "Bank Resolution" form.

WillToFight said...

Jackie

willtofight I do have all my paper notarized and trustbook that dr fred send me I just have to know how to open the bank acct. but my friend is missing her trustbook she got bank paper notarized but not the trust we all did all the paper work at same time thank you.

_______________

Take the Bank Resolution form to a bank that will allow you to open a Private Trust account.

If I were you i'd look for a private bank. I think Mogel discussed that in an earlier

WillToFight said...

Neodomens idiotly said.....

Simply because it makes him sound like a whacko ... kinda like telling judges their houses are going to burn down.

__________________

What do have a BLOCK HEAD or something?

Portugeuse would sound "whacko" if you knew nothing about it!

Neo What education in Law do you have? I'm curious.

People like you with a typical "status quo" approach would make us all slaves.

I don't want any of what you say Neo!

WillToFight said...

Pauligirl

Good points. Lots of facts and info.

But, we really don't know that this is the whole of the Defense Kurt is employing. And establishing jurisdiction is not necessary a Dom de guerre argument.

Neo came up with that! We all only responded to him trying Kurt here on this Blog!

If Kurt is using this defense, then within the defense there is a body of evidence that goes along with that.

Kurt believes he is innocent because there are no facts supporting guilt .

The fact must be produced, that he in fact committed a crime.

You can not "Stand-Under PRESUMTION! That is what the court is attempting to do! Everyone should be outraged by the courts tactics!

jackie said...

Thank you willtofight when I come back from vacation I will do that but Dr.Fred told me he assist someone to open a bank and he went to bank of America which is international and it went well. thank you and I will let you know when I come back 5/29 through 6/11

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KYHOOYA said...

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mogel said...

Mr. Rogers says: "If Kurt has a tight case and all his ducks in a row to nail the evil bankers and the feds down, why is he dicking around with strawman/flesh and blood/fictious bull shit?"

That's a good question Nemo. Maybe he's going for the easy dismissal, since they can't get his flesh & blood person in Court & have jurisdiction. Without jurisdiction, he can always get an appeal just in case an insurance policy is needed. Why fight if you can get an easy win? Besides, the government & courts have been dicking him around for over a year now. Turn around is fair play, is it not? Maybe someone else has a better answer.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "Simply because it makes him sound like a whacko ... kinda like telling judges their houses are going to burn down."

How many people think that you are a whacko when you tell them that banks don't loan out their own assets, the conditioned response being that 95% of the people already have that you are going to the bank to get a loan? When you tell people for the first time they didn't get a loan, the first response is that the other person who has been brainwashed to believe that THINKS YOU ARE NUTS telling them they didn't get a loan. After all, they did get a house, did they not, so there must have been a legitimate loan that took place.

If the psychiatrist gives the OK that K&S can defend themselves without a lawyer, isn't the mental competency issue moot?

Isn't it true that most of the public think that people that do a "mortgage challenges" are also whackos?

All inspired people with a new idea are at first considered whackos too. The list is endless of people that have made a difference in society were all shunned due to their revolutionary ideas, including people like Columbus, Einstein, Fulton, Galileo, Wright Bros., etc.

Who cares what people think anyway? Popularity & truth are often diametrically opposed to each other anyway.

As far as the Judge's house burning down, who knows, maybe it will happen at some point. Maybe telling the Judge that, is all part of Kurt's game plan. You're not going to get in Kurt's mind completely, so don't even try. He keeps some secrets to himself.

Many prophets have been considered whackos by the public, generally speaking. That's nothing new. Kurt is trying to do something that hasn't been successfully tried & accomplished before, so naturally he is going to be looked at as someone that is wierd. So what? He obviously doesn't care & isn't moved by what other people think. That's why he got a huge backlash at one time, remember? He only cares about fulfilling his mission as his priority, people's feelings are secondary. Once that happens, all clients who spoke ill of him, will praise him as a hero & will pretend to be with him in Spirit from the beginning. One thing is for sure, everyone wants to be associated with a winner.

neodemes said...

mogel said...

Mr. Rogers says: "If Kurt has a tight case and all his ducks in a row to nail the evil bankers and the feds down, why is he dicking around with strawman/flesh and blood/fictious bull shit?"

That's a good question Nemo. Maybe he's going for the easy dismissal, since they can't get his flesh & blood person in Court & have jurisdiction. Without jurisdiction, he can always get an appeal just in case an insurance policy is needed. Why fight if you can get an easy win?

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Moogie, you recently accused me of contradicting myself.

What you are suggesting contradicts Kurt's stated game plan in which he has maneuvered the 'powers that be' into a confronational position...he's going to beat them at their own game and save the world. Remember, moog?

And a few lines down here, you contradict your previous statement above...

mogel sez:

"He only cares about fulfilling his mission as his priority, people's feelings are secondary. Once that happens, all clients who spoke ill of him, will praise him as a hero & will pretend to be with him in Spirit from the beginning."

So, pushing for dismissal on jurisdictional grounds isn't exactly taking the bull by the horns, is it moog?

Once that happens? Getting the case dismissed on jurisdictional grounds isn't going to accomplish squat. There will be no magic happening, no judgements, no damages, nada, nicht, zilch.

Not to worry, though. Patriot tactics will only add contempt charges, not dismissal.

dgwondering said...

Byron, it sounds like you just lost a case. Gosh how could that be? You being the expert and all: "Hey, it happened to me recently, the Judge cited no law whatsoever in reference to his opinion of judgment. His decision was based upon NOTHING. NO FACTS WERE PRESENTED IN THE COURT BY THE JUDGE, NOR BY THE DA. The Judge just gave his opionion & he expects me to honor it. Very strange how the Court system works sometimes. LOL"

What did they prosecute you for? I didn't know they had laws against stupidity. Or was this just another one of your made up stories?

If it did happen, it's not strange at all when you pull stuff out of your $%^ and expect the Judge to simply accept your stupid arguments.

Still waiting for a winning case eh? Aren't we all. Any of your clients sued you yet?

WillToFight said...

Neodomenes said....

willy said it has been effectively used before, I asked to be shown a case where it has worked.

I'm still waiting.
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You have no truth in you! Now your addig words to my statement!

Effectively used!

Like I said before, you alonely wish ill on this process.

neodemes said...

willy said:

Furthermore, the very fact that you can define a portion of the tactic (nom de guerre) Kurt is employing gives credibility to the fact that it is a legal defense that has been used and has been effective.

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That's the same as saying it has been effectively used, willy.

Make sense for once, willy you?

neodemes said...

oh, and how about that case where it has been used and has been effective?

Cough up.

neodemes said...

dgwondering said...


Still waiting for a winning case eh? Aren't we all. Any of your clients sued you yet?


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