Sunday, May 07, 2006

The Eye of the Storm (4/19/06)

We are now in the 3 week lull before our next hearing on 5/9. This is when they expect to go forward with the Faretta hearing. We are past the mental competency farce though some of you got your chance for sport. I am hoping for some good developments this day. This down time we are using to sharpen our skills and to relax in prayer and praise to get ready for battle. No battle has yet taken place in this case so it will be interesting to learn of the other players. Just the staging events has revealed many reasons to be optimistic. I am still thankful for you many supporters. I’m certain you have no idea how valuable you are in enhancing our courage and strength. If it were possible to explain how much pressure this system places upon a man to fold, even with my many years of training I have to bring my best game to compete, I would be able to give you some clue. Only those who have had to stand in a pack of hungry wolves could truly understand. Your kind words and faith are weapons that gives hope of surviving this eminent peril. Thanks are not enough I must bring you victory.

30 comments:

Beavis & Butt-Head said...

Butt-head: Huh-huh, huh-huh, kick em' in the nuts, Scott and Kurt, huh-huh, huh-huh.

Beavis: Yeah, Yeah, Scott and Kurt, kick em' in the nuts, and like then kick em' again, and then like steal the money they've been stealing from all of the clients and then like, go buy everyone hot dogs and nachos, heh-heh, heh-heh.

Butt-head: Yeah, hot dogs and nachos rule, huh-huh, huh-huh.

Beavis: Heh-heh, heh-heh.

Madtowne said...

Kurt & Scott,
I will continue to pray for you. What I heard from my pastor this morning I will pass along to you: "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you where ever you go." Joshua 1:9

just-the-facts said...

Oh great...this butt-head idiot again.
Let's just stick to the mortgage elimination, shall we?

mogel said...

Hopefully the documentary will be available soon. See the link:

http://www.opendoordoc.com/americandream.html

Hot fitting it will be to have all charges dropped & Scott & Kurt to be free first before it comes out.

Can't imagine how difficult things have been, but I surely appreciate the good fight you are doing in our behalf. To the victor, goes the spoils.

mogel said...

Does the "eye of the storm" show possible trouble for Pres. Bush ahead, possibly impeachment proceedings. Judge for yourself as the State of Illinois is not standing idly by due to the illegal spying that the Bush government has been doing on the people illegally:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22383530

The problem is that corruption in government & the Courts are rampant & if not kept in check, by calling people on the carpet, allows leaders & the banks to do whatever they want as if "they are a law unto themselves," or "above the law". I copied that phrase from Nemo since he believes that phrase applies to me. I'm giving him due credit for that phrase assuming of course he didn't get it elsewhere.

Beavis & Butt-Head said...

just-the-facts said...
Oh great...this butt-head idiot again.

Butt-head: Your whinning gives me "just the craps", so piss off ass-wipe, huh-huh, huh-huh.

Beavis: Yeah, Yeah, piss off, cause' like you give me the craps too, heh-heh, heh-heh.

mogel said...

Seen It in Utah: Here is what an attorney like yourself has said about your industry that you are so proud of.

Mr. Mulligan esq. ---Regarding the mortgage lending industry: “…the ability to perpetuate a fraud of any kind from the over charging of fees to higher interest rates than they should be to something as silly and worthless as title insurance (which by the way is silly and worthless) is all there and no one is watching out for you except for yourself.”

That is true that title insurance is worthless & silly. Why pay thousands of dollars for something that you can do yourself. Just go to the County Recorder's office & do a search on the property from their computers. You can pick up all encumberances on the property there of record anyway so you know exactly what you are buying as far as claims on the property. Title insurance doesn't cover unrecorded liens or unrecorded claims anyway or things that can't be ascertained through public records.

neodemes said...

Thousands of dollars for title insurance?

I don't think so.

If you paid that, you're an idiot.

Nothing personal.

mogel said...

Why couldn't it be thousands of dollars for an expensive piece of property? It's a sliding scale depending on how much you are insuring as you know. Course living in a Florida trailer park, maybe you wouldn't know what prices of real estate are in expensive States like California. The point was that it's still too much whatever the cost for something you can do yourself. It could be argued you're an idiot whatever you paid for title insurance. No offense.

Tony Tuba said...

After June 1st, when the charges against Kurt and Scott are dropped, I will reveal my true identity.

Justice7777777 said...

We already know who you are.

You are the guy who is always wrong.

WillToFight said...

"Protecting the American Dream
Mortgage Fraud and Abuses: The Silent Stealing of American Equity"
__________
No matter how many facts are shown in this DVD, naysayers will still cry out "it's a scam"!

Their ignorant protection of the banking industry as if it where god shows what they really worship!

just-the-facts said...

Hey butt-head...did you say something?

just-the-facts said...

Anyway, best of luck Kurt and Scott. All prayers are with you. Too bad CNN isn't in the courtroom covering the story...sorry, I forgot this mortgage fraud must be a secret.

Stillwaiting said...

Just the Facts........have you not been reading this blog. They don't talk about mortgage elimination here. they haven't talked about it in months. The reason being is it is easier to quote scripture than it is to find a solution to what Kurt and Scott have not been able to accompllish because they didn't tell the people who send them money and paperwork that they only thought they could do it. The bottom line is they have never completed one mortgage elimination transaction. Even Dr. Fred who had the conference call in Nov 2005 stating that within 30 to 90 days we (K&S) would be cancelling our mortgages and we would be getting what they promised.
today you can log into the blog and read passages from the bible or crap. But at no time can you read about mortgage elimination because not one person within this blog knows who to do it. Neither does Kurt or Scott. Again, had I been told in July of 2004 that they think they can I could and would have made an educated decision of sending my money and paperwork to them based on that premise. My and mostlikely everyone else made their decision based on the premise of being told that they could do it.
K&S&Dr.F see you in a couple of weeks.

WillToFight said...

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This event can be billed as "Two Days Of Truth" and it is a challenge to the establish mouthpiece media that resolutely defends the government fairy tale version of what happened on that fateful day.

The conference will witness the premiere of Alex Jones' newest and most powerful film which largely focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and how the British government ran and exploited the attacks to accelerate big brother's control grid and cashless society.

Seen it in Utah said...

Moogie,

Your Dorean messes are the very poster child example for why people need title insurance. Once you people start foulding up the title to property, it takes people like me to straighten them out later. And you can see from many posts over the last many months--a lot of Dorean clients have had to seek serious help to fix up the mess you Dorean peddlers leave behind.

papa_dont_preach said...

So indeed, why hasn't Dr. Fred made mention to this yet? Why is it that he's denied this when asked?

habakkuk said...

seen it in utah said....

--a lot of Dorean clients have had to seek serious help to fix up the mess you Dorean peddlers leave behind.

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The only reason there was a mess is because some clients (including myself and family) were already in a mess in terms of paying their mortgage...i understand that and i'm not gripping about it...in fact, the Lord helped us out of that mess and is positioning us for more blessing to come:)..i aint gonna sweat it.

There would have probably been foreclosures even without dorean...The only difference is that they would'nt have the hope of settlement without dorean.

Utah, you and your brothers never like to discuss facts. I hope everybody on here recognizes how big of a joke you are.

Seen it in Utah said...

Habby,

If you had been paying attention over the last many months, you would see that people like me have been discussing the facts in great detail--explaining the futility and dishonesty of the Dorean mess...but people like you did not want to hear it. Instead of rational responses, Doreanites would turn to ad hominem attacks and shrilly use their "religious" faith to support their new Dorean saviors. We have given up trying to explain facts--Doreanites, by and large, would argue with signboards. All we can do is kind of watch the train wreck that is approaching. And the people in the wreck are going to be Doreanites.

habakkuk said...

Utah said...

If you had been paying attention over the last many months, you would see that people like me have been discussing the facts in great detail--explaining the futility and dishonesty of the Dorean mess...but people like you did not want to hear it. Instead of rational responses, Doreanites would turn to ad hominem attacks and shrilly use their "religious" faith to support their new Dorean saviors. We have given up trying to explain facts--Doreanites, by and large, would argue with signboards. All we can do is kind of watch the train wreck that is approaching. And the people in the wreck are going to be Doreanites.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever....but u didnt respond to what i just said about people who were already in danger of foreclosure and then wanting to blame dorean. I can sypathize with them because i can relate.

Train wreck? Ok whatever utah Bob.

By the way, kurt and scott were never and will never be my "saviours"....i knew about this whole process before i met them and nobody had to tell me this was just as much a spiritual battle as it was an earthly one. You think kurt likes to quote the scriptures.....you otta meet me pal.

Why do i bother? This is getting boring responding to u guys. I think i'll go outside and enjoy the sunshine.

neodemes said...

Moogie says
"Course living in a Florida trailer park"

LOL.Funny stuff, there. Nope. ever lived in a traler in my life, park or otherwise.

You, on the otherhand, were trying to sell one some time back.

Should I assume it was your home sweet home, moog 'ole pal?

neodemes said...

correction: never lived

mogel said...

Seen It In Utah: If people need someone like you to prepare & file a simple quit claim deed, or follow simple instructions, I feel sorry for those that are so lost or so lazy to understand a simple process that they could do themselves.

Most Dorean clients never needed to quit claim temporarily out of their family trust. Personal unforseen financial problems of clients & the government's little game of shutting down Dorean & arresting the Principals has caused
the biggest mess to date. However, all of these messes can & will be overcome & when that happens & charges are dropped, your perceived futility of the process will be an acknowledgement that the process must be accepted universally. If there is no fraud, all of the paperwork must stand as recorded & hence, it isn't a mess, but a blessing & clients mortgages are in fact discharged. Who knows, maybe part of the coming settlement & dismissal of charges might even be an acknowledgment by the lenders that all discharges will stand & be finally acknowledged by the banks for all clients.

However, should that not happen, still a dismissal of charges would prove to any international investor/buyer of the administrative judgments that the negotiable paper is valid & good & marketable. Then when they are purchased & everything is closed in escrow, all clients will be monetarily paid, so an acknowledgment of the discharges is not necessarily needed, but would simplify things. Clients will receive far in excess of the mortgage amount, so clients will get far more than they originally bargained for, so I can't see how anyone is going to be displeased.

See, there are no personal attacks in this post, & I am even giving rational reasons without any scripture or religious tone to show that your skeptism could be totally off the mark, so your last generalization doesn't stand as being true.

mogel said...

Nemo: I have probably owned over 400 mobile homes or manufactured homes is the proper notion to be politically correct, in my lifetime. You see my former business was the management, operation, & ownership of manufactured home communities & I've owned many in the past.

Some manufactured homes, are even nicer than some conventional homes. In Malibu, CA, there are manufactured homes in a mobile home park that are well worth over a million dollars. Not all parks are "trailer trash" as you call them.

Course, you already know I have a conventional house with land in the Dorean process. You were told by many people that a requirement of being a Broker was having a property in the process, however despite this, you were dead bent on saying I didn't own a home, didn't have a property in the process, didn't take a risk & lived in a trailer. So my little joke, was a reminder of your prejudices & false assumptions & inability to listen to people.

If I own extra income properties, what is it any concern of yours?

Where you live doesn't determine your character or even your economic position. Not all perceptions that you hold are true.

neodemes said...

umm...you brought up the trailor thing, not me, but, whatever.

Have a good night.

neodemes said...

Hab,

Regardless of whether the client ended up in foreclosure or went merrily along making so-called administrative overpayments (a fancy term for 'you have to keep paying your mortgage, because our discharge is meaningless') the title to every Dorean property has been royally screwed up by the paper storm filed by Kurt and the gang.

Accept it, or don't.

Peace.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "the title to every Dorean property has been royally screwed up by the paper storm filed by Kurt and the gang."

The banks foreclose regardless of the new Title report, if payments aren't met, so no big deal to the lender according to their actions. They still get paid for their alleged lien, do they not, if payments are made under protest, so where is the damage & what is the big deal in your last statement? Bidders at foreclosure sales still bid on these foreclosed properties, despite the Title, do they not? Lenders still bid on them, do they not & eventually get paid AGAIN through the sale of the asset.

One might even conclude that it seems that the banks actions seem to indicate that they do not care about the paperwork that Dorean has filed because they ignore it anyway. Didn't you say that you believe the process is not successful at all for anyone? Isn't that the same thing as saying that the bank doesn't care in 100% of the cases then since it is a fraudulent process & can be ignored? All fraud is not accepted & never stands anyway & if fraud has been committed, the title goes back to the way as it was before the fraud, if fraud is established in Court. Not very often do lenders challenge this change of Title in the courts, they just foreclose if payments aren't met which is something they would have done anyway if payments stopped coming to them. Where is the real damage here to the lender or to the client for doing the process & "royally screwing" up the Title then?

However, if there is no fraud in the Dorean process, then, I can see why the banks would care that they lose legal title, & would care about the "screwed up title", because of the implications here, but you don't believe this, so this couldn't be your concern.

If a client needs to refinance or sell, he just has the trustees quit claim the property back to them, no big deal again.

Why do you say "royally screwed up"? You make it sound like it's something that can't be resolved or changed if desired.

Besides, if the lender doesn't have a legitimate claim, they shouldn't hold legal title anyway, so if you assume that premise, which seems to be a believed by all clients, then, you are just creating the truth or rectifying a mistake in the County record.

neodemes said...

mogel, you obviously have no idea the sh*t people are having to go through after buying a Dorean tainted foreclosed property.

But that doesn't stop you from playing expert.

Alsup hosed down your boys, btw.

Rave on!

God loves you.

neodemes said...

mogel said...

Nemo: I have probably owned over 400 mobile homes or manufactured homes is the proper notion to be politically correct, in my lifetime. You see my former business was the management, operation, & ownership of manufactured home communities & I've owned many in the past....


....Course, you already know I have a conventional house with land in the Dorean process. You were told by many people that a requirement of being a Broker was having a property in the process....

*****

moogie, you have always side-stepped the question of whether you had your own home in the process...you still are being evasive.

I believe you got a relative to risk their property for your benefit and you live in, not own (at least, not the park), a trailor on lot #23 (full address will remain undisclosed, as a courtesy to you)