Tuesday, May 09, 2006

A Fishing Lesson (4/23/06)

Benjamin Franklin once said, “He that would catch fish, must venture his bait.” This is not a total fishing guide by M.T. Hook. Fish don’t bite empty hooks. The nature of the fish must be tempted. Either hunger, habit, color or movement must entice them to become prey. I am surprised that you think a giant fish like the bankers and their gleaning fish the government can be caught on an empty hook. I can imagine some of you entering a battle and getting nicked by a sword say a $3,000 wound then dropping your sword, crying out loud, “it isn’t fair!” Your enemy will drop his sword, come running to you to say, “I’m sorry.” No he will run you through and look for another victim. We knew the fish we were baiting and God gave us the wisdom to reel in the prey. We tempted them with their greed, their tyrant movements, their color of law, and their habit of attacking. We first chummed the waters of civil but the blood frenzy consumed them. Now they are hooked and hooked deep they cannot dislodge it. How do you expect to rid the waters of life of this leviathan of evil without venturing bait? Scott and I baited them with our lives and knew we must disappear in their belly for a season but it is not long before a fish whose appetite sustained discovers the taunt line of truth and learns fear for the first time. Perhaps if you grab hold of the truth we could reel in this beast faster.

31 comments:

neodemes said...

"I can imagine some of you entering a battle and getting nicked by a sword say a $3,000 wound then dropping your sword, crying out loud, “it isn’t fair!” Your enemy will drop his sword, come running to you to say, “I’m sorry.” No he will run you through and look for another victim. We knew the fish we were baiting and God gave us the wisdom to reel in the prey."

Dorean clients = $3000.00 prey

Thanks for clarifying.

TTFN

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Neodemes can you clarify what the judge did yesterday?(Shot Down)


Does anyone understand if settlements will still occur if Kurt remains in jail?

Thanks

neodemes said...

Sure thing, Leslie.

You will find a link to Alsup's May 8 order HERE

whyudothat said...

Leslie Spikes said...
Does anyone understand if settlements will still occur if Kurt remains in jail?

fact: fred of dorean said in spring 2005 on the phone calls that the settlement would be any week now and that it didnt matter in any way about kurt or scotts outcome.

fact: it is now may 2006.
make up your own mind on that one.

alas it is all gods will some say, that is like saying god went against his own will today, but will have a new will tomorrow, you know like a silly putty god. stretch and make your own device. if you dont get what you want, mash it back in a ball and get to try again, and again, again..
again make up your own mind on that one.

mogel said...

Nemo: Dorean's bait wasn't even intended for you, & you took it anyway. The bait must have been better than expected since it attracts even unwanted prey. You've taken the bait, & you haven't gotten released from the line yet either. You're still on the line kicking & fighting & you're still here. You're a fish that should be thrown back into the deep sea being the minnow that you are. You're not even good prey to eat. Thanks for helping me realize that. LOL

you will know them by their fruit said...

Nice Mogel

I guess you just use white out on parts of the Bible that are counter your behavior.

Very revealing fruit. Next you will be telling folks about scripture.

You, Kurt, Hab, and others suffer from "light switch" christianity. Turn it on and off as it meets your needs.

Shame.

mogel said...

ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY STATUS with Freedom Club USA:

Some recent events: 5/8/06
1) One group of AR liens has funded overseas after two months of delay due to international banking issues which are now resolved. We are awaiting member distributions.

2) Numerous AR processes have now completed their GL documentation and are being readied for the payment cycle. A new GL backend process (being tested) will allow us to convert our AR processes into payments for members.
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Rather than worrying about whether administrative judgments can be sold while Kurt is in jail, why not ask yourself, does the Dorean process perfect a legitimate lien against your lender according to the UCC? If it does, then, the status of Kurt or Scott in jail, does nothing to invalidate the validity of the judgment. If it's a judgment legitimately obtained, with the proper paperwork in order, it can be sold.

Maybe it's a question of getting more money for clients by getting all of the criminal charges dropped, first. Maybe the judgments are more valuable or investors would pay more for them, once this scenario happens. If that is true, then the Dorean Group is being smart by not seriously marketing them or seriously accepting offers at this point in time. Certainly marketing them & finding serious buyers while being out of jail makes the process much easier to finalize. Maybe the wait is a blessing in disguise? It all boils down to the question, do you believe your trustees are acting in your best interests?

If the Freedom Club can sell administrative judgments right now & find overseas buyers & close on them, then it follows that the Dorean Group can also, despite their current status in jail since the two processes are similiar.

mogel said...

Fruit: I seriously doubt if you've ever even read the Bible cover to cover. Have you?

You want fruit? Read my post about the Freedom Club actually providing good fruit.

Maybe you want to "white out" that post yourself since it doesn't suit your needs?

whyudothat said...

mogel said...
ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY STATUS with Freedom Club USA:
despite their current status in jail since the two processes are similiar.

out of curiousity mogel, do you know if freedomclub also used a bond or type of bond?

mogel said...

Fruit: Maybe you'll want to take out your white out pen yourself & start explaining all of the contradictions in the Bible:
http://www.evilbible.com/contradictions.htm

I hate to inform you, but the Bible is not 100% correct even though it is inspired. There are mistakes of men there. It's not God's doing though, it's man's doing due to the mistakes. A modern day prophet did try to clarify some of the glaring mistakes & precious things taken out of the Book by evil men, but that's another story far ahead of your intellect. Just return to your obsessive/compulsive ways.

mogel said...

No, Freedom Club, doesn't use a bond. A bond isn't needed to validate a lien against the lender & perfect that lien.

The bond's main purpose was for protection against criminal charges.

Freedom Club pays off the lenders alleged lien & doesn't take away legal title from the lender. They just obtain an administrative judgment, by defaulting the lender, & sell this judgment overseas, & part of the monies from the sale of the judgments go to pay off the lender, so it's much less confrontational & less controversial than the Dorean Process was.

whyudothat said...

mogel said...
so it's much less confrontational & less controversial than the Dorean Process was.


makes sense

provb1022 said...

I hate to inform you, but the Bible is not 100% correct even though it is inspired. There are mistakes of men there. It's not God's doing though, it's man's doing due to the mistakes. A modern day prophet did try to clarify some of the glaring mistakes & precious things taken out of the Book by evil men

What prophet are you speaking of? False or True?

WillToFight said...

Leslie Spikes:

Don't asked neodemes anything. He is a wanttobe, a virous that is attempting to keep you in the matrix of believing that the banks are ok. That living in complete debt is the way it should be.

He's like a criminal trustee to the banks, a sell out only thinking of himself!

WillToFight said...

So neodemes, why didn't you just post the article from Judge Alsup here?

You want people to go to your sorry site!

Anyway, the article is not on the link you provided.

If you have a copy post it knucklehead. Course I don't think it says much.

Think remedy idiot!

neodemes said...

gee, will, no need to be mean spirited.

The court order IS at the link I provided.

What have you provided, other than venom?

Have a nice day.

tcob247 said...

willtofight said.....

"Think remedy idiot"


fact: fred of dorean said in spring 2005 on the phone calls that the settlement would be any week now and that it didnt matter in any way about kurt or scotts outcome.


HMMMMMMMMMM.....

who's the idiot?

son of a prophet said...

FANNIE MAE 'LOSES TRACK' OF $1.4 BILLION


maybe the FNMA execs should be hauled in front of judge alsup.

what does nimo have to say??? curious?

this money sure didnt go to any dg clients.


http://www.bloomberg.com
/apps/news?pid=10000103&
sid=aGfA9I94AcA8&refer=us

good4info said...
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son of a prophet said...

"ALL scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." There are NO mistakes or contradictions."

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this applies ONLY to the ORIGINAL writings of the apostles....


as none of these are extant, it is safe to assume that some of the bible has/is being altered.

that is why the HS trumps what is in the bible, because the HS cannot be altered.

satan knows this too.

that is why yeshua did say..."there will come a time when you will be put out of the synagogue and they will kill you, thinking that they are doing gods work..."


the only way that this is possible, is that some will realize that gods word has been corrupted and that the HS is telling them what the TRUTH is.


someone said (in antoher foroum)..."can god preserve His word?".....


YES, HE CAN.

but who is to say that the way that HE does this is not through the HS giving wisdom to those who can tell what is true from what has been corrupted?


ultimately, the HS will show its superiority over the printed word, due the the printed word having been corrupted.....just like all churches, theology schools who produce teaching pastors, etc.


satan is the subtlest of creatures.

he knows that ppl would rather spend an hour a week in church, rather than an hour a week in the bible locked in quiet study.

light1rae said...

It would be nice if someone could post (that was at the hearing on 5/9) what was said?

imbigo said...

For those who really want to know....

They recieved the findings of the Doc. (mental eval) but Kurt and Scott had a problem with some of the wording in the report. So Kurt in his on was LOL (genius) ask the judge who the "me" was on this report, and that he wanted to question the Doc. on his findings. The Doc. has been requested to come into court and be questioned by both Scott & Kurt Thurs. 5/11. Should be very interesting!! to say the least.

GODS SPEED MY BROTHERS,

P.S. GOD BLESS YOU MOGEL AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR POST I DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE BY YOUR POST NAME, BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I'M SURE WE.VE MET AND WE'LL MEET AGAIN!!!

ZUP EVERYBODY!!!

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP!!!!

KEEP THE FAITH!!!

THE RACE IS NOT GIVEN TO THE SWIFT NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG BUT TO THEM THAT ENDURES TO THE END...

THATS BIBLE.

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newgurl said...

drhfred said...
newgurl:
The only time you would have to use your SS# is on the SS-4 (IRS)
opening a bank acount for the Family Estate Trust.


thanks, so then it is ok for the bank to ask for my soc sec # for their records and a copy of the trust? isnt that a bit too public for a private trust?

gotlight said...

Yes it is true. You have to keep some information private. You only give certain pages of the Trust documents and only certain portions of the page. Dr. Fred can give you the percise information. Call him...

gotlight said...

Hope this helps. Newgurl

WillToFight said...

Neodemes said...

gee, will, no need to be mean spirited.

The court order IS at the link I provided.

What have you provided, other than venom?
___________________________
My spirit is not mean at all Neodomenese. I understand what your about.

Nothing!

I will not be nice to those I do not like. I even have not respect for your opinion! You are one that is for destruction of those good things this country is capable of. Your misdirection and greed will not allow me to say anything good about you.

I would take a snake bit personal!

midwesttoo said...

what is wrong with this picture

Woman Wins Nearly $5 Million Verdict Against Ameriquest.
An Oklahoma borrower, who claims Ameriquest Mortgage Co. ruined her credit because it didn't pay off mortgages in refinance transactions, has won the largest individual verdict ever obtained against the massive subprime company.

NOT SO BAD.....BUT NOW THIS

Ameriquest Settlement May Be Near.
Ameriquest Mortgage Co. may settle charges brought on by 33 states and clear a path for the company's billionaire founder to take a job with the U.S. State Department.

read the last line again
"clear a path for the company's billionaire founder to take a job with the U.S. State Department."

WHY ON EARTH WOULD THIS BE A GOOD IDEA

mogel said...

Prov10:22. In answer to your question:

You can read the Book of Mormon, I Nephi 13: 21-34. Any library would have this book. This talks about how much of the plain doctrines originally intended & written were taken out of the Bible we have today & was done by evil men for their evil designs.

The Book of Mormon was originally written by ancient prophets that lived in the Americas from 600 B.C. to 421 A.D. with the exception of a civilization that lived in the Americas about 2200 B.C. (The Jaredites) spoken of in the book of Ether).

Joseph Smith translated this record from the gold plates that he found in Cumorah, New York, the exact place being told to him by the Angel Moroni, an ancient prophet, who was the last survivor & caretaker of this record & one of the last survivors of the Nephite race, this angel being a resurrected personage, one of many angels who instructed Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith had a personal visit from God & Jesus in the flesh when he was only 14 1/2 years old concerning an answer to prayer & from this visit he learned that God & Jesus are 2 separate & distinct personages unlike what Catholism teaches about the Trinity that Jesus & the Holy Ghost are just different manifestations of the same Being. Both beings spoke to him & instructed him also.

The people that lived here in the Americas were also Christians & the gold records they kept contained their history & religious dealings. The original family that settled here were from Jerusalem before it was destroyed & were lead by God over the waters to the Americas where they settled, God sparing them from this destruction had they have stayed in Jerusalem.

In the Book is a record too of Christ's visit to the Americas right after his resurrection (page 421-455). Indian stories that have been passed down say that Christ did visit here. The Book is regarded as a second witness with the Bible for Jesus Christs & his divine mission. The Book of MOrmon is the 2nd most widely published book in the World, the Bible being the most widely published Book ever.

Even the Bible refers to Books (lost books) that are not canonized in the Bible we have today, The King James Version. That is one of your clues that the Bible we have today isn't complete.

Your question, true or false prophet who translated parts of the Bible, the answer is 12 million people believe he was a true prophet, the prophet Joseph Smith. He never finished his retranslation of the complete Bible though, but his translation does give extra clarity to many verses, especially in the the first several books of the New Testament.

Was Joseph a true prophet? Here was one of his prophecies INTENDED FOR OUR DAY:

D&C 117: 16: "And again, verily I say unto you, let my servants in the land of Kirtland remember the Lord their God, and mine house also, to keep & preserve it holy, AND TO OVERTHROW THE MONEYCHANGERS IN MINE OWN DUE TIME, SAITH THE LORD. EVEN SO. AMEN."

mogel said...

SOP: I really like your explanation of the correctness of the Bible & what that means & implies. I agree with you 100%. So true that the Holy Ghost is your Best Bible & is your personal revelation for You & DOES IN FACT TRUMP WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU KNOW OR WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU HAVE READ. Also it is true that the original writings were perfect as it was originally written down by ancient prophets. What we have today that has been translated a hundred times or that has been altered is NOT the original text. That's the kicker right there.

WillToFight said...

Midwesttoo

Ameriquest Settlement May Be Near.
Ameriquest Mortgage Co. may settle charges brought on by 33 states and clear a path for the company's billionaire founder to take a job with the U.S. State Department.

WHY ON EARTH WOULD THIS BE A GOOD IDEA
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It's the same old game Midwestto. They get in to goverment to change the law to protect which ever industry they come from! The insurance co's have been doing it for years.

This is something we must stay on top of.