Saturday, May 13, 2006

I Repent (4/26/06)

Fruit its time for me to get right with God. Many people are hurting so I need your help. It is apparent to me that your wisdom exceeds all others so please answer these questions for me that I might find my way from evil.

1. Is it the faith of Christ or my faith in Christ that saves?
2. How do I spot a false prophet?
3. Will serving Christ guarantee me respect in this life?
4. What convincing evidence is there that Christ is the Son of God?
5. Is Scott evil on his own or a byproduct of mine?
6. Do I have to obey the law of God or Christ?
7. Was I mistaken to see bankers as crooks because of the log in my own eye?
8. Was the Song of Kurt an addition to the Bible like Chris Taylor expressed, incompatible, or self-righteous?

Please post your answers here and I will tell you how you were used of God in a couple of weeks. Thanks for all your help in advance; I’m certain many on this blog would also benefit from your wisdom. May the Christ you serve richly bless this endeavor to His glory.

131 comments:

you will know them by their fruit said...

Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.

The key is denying yourself and your will. Your fruit is completely contrary to that of His will. The Bereans would never let you into Berea. They would justly recognize you and your message for what it is.

But you have a following because they do not understand or are unwilling to abide by Luke 9:23.

provb1022 said...

Fruit,

You did not answer Kurts questions. How do you know that Kurt and Scott are not denying themselfs to follow the Lord? What don't we understand?

you will know them by their fruit said...

Kurt said, "Was I mistaken to see bankers as crooks"

Crooks are everywhere. Your crooked approach to remedy the crooks in banking is clearly not of Christ.

When Jesus confronted Zacheus (a tax collector that was crooked) how did He handle it?

Did you use fraud?

Did He make promises He couldn't keep?

Did He get money?

Did He send the money to Latvia?

Did He curse family members who opposed Him?

Did He lie?

Did He file false documents?

Did He curse?

The list goes on and on.

You, Kurt, are known by your fruit! Christ is not in you!

you will know them by their fruit said...

Prov, don't be so simple, Kurt's questions are bait.

I think you already know that.

neodemes said...

Fruit,

For question #2, you might suggest a mirror.

LOL

imbigo said...

SOP I have a question!!!!

HAVE YOU EVER MET KURT OR SCOTT?

imbigo said...

I'm sorry that ??? was the fruit inspector!!!

imbigo said...

The reason I ask is that its somewhat hard to judge some one you never met!!! and its also hard to make a judgement on a system witch you have no knowledge!!!

imbigo said...

which***

provb1022 said...

Kurt said, "Was I mistaken to see bankers as crooks"
Fruit is that a crime in a general sense. Seems to me Jesus thought them same of the money changers. What part of “changers” don’t you understand about fraud, and deceit.

Crooks are everywhere. Your crooked approach to remedy the crooks in banking is clearly not of Christ.

I personally have not seen anything that is crooked in there approach. I have only seen fraud from the banks by not answering honest questions.

When Jesus confronted Zacheus (a tax collector that was crooked) how did He handle it?

He invited him to dinner at his house.

Did you use fraud?

I don’t see it. Apparently you do

Did He make promises He couldn't keep?

Yes he did. So.. Haven't you done the same. I don’t believe his was intentional under the circumstances of jail, disruption of the business.

Did He get money?

Yes. So what .. Don’t you get money for what you do.

Did He send the money to Latvia?

Who cares where he put it

Did He curse family members who opposed Him?

I don’t know. Didn’t Jesus say who is my mother, brother, sisters?

Did He lie? I don’t believe so? Apparently you do

Did He file false documents?

I haven’t seen any “false documents” filed on my behalf.

Did He curse? Maybe. So did Peter

The list goes on and on. What list???

If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be cursed. That’s as simple as Paul and I can be.

imbigo said...

Just to add....

ALL I'VE EVER SEEN THESE TWO DO WAS ASK FOR TOTAL DISCLOSER, EVERY THING HAS BEEN DONE IN OPEN!!! NOTHING SECRET!

you will know them by their fruit said...

Thanks for helping prov. I hope you post more often.

you will know them by their fruit said...

2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits....

you will know them by their fruit said...

Just some fruit samples for the blind.

Kurt's OWN words . . .

"As I have said before Dorean has taken in about 5 million credits. This would mean that the brokers took in about 10 million credits. I have decided that I will fund the payback escrow to cover even the broker fees. I will even allow the fools like Gayle Marie Bradshaw who already contracted out of a refund to participate. For you critics this would mean I will be losing 10 million in broker compensation, 6 million in Letter of Credit fees and 12 million in trust expenses. Which means for you “love of money” idiots I have lost 28 million. Now you can criticize me for being a stupid investor. For 28 million I managed to purchase thousands of self centered, lazy, blame specialist clients."

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"We will see our desires have their way with those who oppose our freedom."

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"I have been given the blueprints to your house of cards and I will plunder your house and expose every one of you as the political kiss-ass hacks that you are."

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"It appears to me that a few whiners have found their great opportunity to blame me for their woes"

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"You need to get off your self-pity sluggard asses "

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"Yes people are hurt, welcome to reality, no apology. Where I differ from you idiots is that I understand the value of my labor. Your free keystrokes aren’t even worth that price."

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"Should I owe you endless concern for the $1,500.00 that you paid me? Is that really your expectation? I owe no one except myself"

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"I should forgive you for your ignorance, absolve you of choice, show concern for your need, have compassion for your suffering, and love you unconditionally. Well I won’t."

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PRIVATE MESSAGE

This is solely for Evil Ex and forgotten son. I have not read your comments but know the content because I know the heart of fools. I am glad you posted the poison of your souls here so that your shame can easily find you. Both of you serve an idol of your own making by imagination and just because you named it “Jesus” you think it real. Finally you have a man of faith who loves you and who lives for the true living God and you think him evil. Actually you think him a fool overcome by the pure evil of me. Now that you are a man bright son you have come to that clear wisdom where you can judge your father. How stupid can you be. The prophet is known by the veracity of his words. Well this evil man prophesies this to you and though your ears won’t hear it your eyes will see it. The spirit of the locust has been sent out against you. Everything you put your hand to will not prosper. If you reach the harvest of your labor thieves will take it. If you are not robbed you will lose it by foolish decisions. You will crave respect but can not earn it. All the help that protected you by your father’s prayer is set aside. Evils will creep in upon you from every side. Though you say in your heart I ought to do this you will find no power to do it. Like pharaoh all the tenderness your heart was destined to shall become rock hard. This desert you will wander until you come to your senses and recognize the only deliver the Lord has given the map to for your exit is your father. Repent and it will be well with you. Even as you read this your heart takes offense and your dark journey begins.

Now Evil Ex whose only truth is in the appropriate title, I’m certain you spun your toxic web of blame. You probably set your sacred church above your husband in righteousness as you do yourself. Well a stupid son is the great trophy of your wisdom. Scott and I prayerfully sought hope for you but evil has not yet completed its circuit in you. Likewise this evil prophet speaks to you. The queerest thing about evil people they think themselves good. Now you and I stand opposed to each other slinging the same fact, “evil.” Only one speaks truth. Let God decide. You pray to your “Jesus” for this prophecy to be false and I’ll pray to mine for it to be true. You have craved all bitter food and though many efforts have placed the sweet words of God before you, your gut was not yet full. It is full now and is evidence by the vomit you project into the world as words. You have lusted for control and the comfort a god of your own making. Your hands will be busy trying to tidy your life but it is decreed to be a mess. The spirit that has possessed you will no longer be restrained, you are given over to its will. Judgment will be well defined in your mind but all those around you will see you becoming mad. The bitterness of your soul shall toxify your body and manifest itself as breast cancer. God will not hear your prayers for deliverance or healing. If you repent, come to your senses, and recognize the stench of your righteousness. God will hear the prayers of Scott. He will keep Scott’s heart tender towards you for a short season. Time is not your friend and grace has made the demand of your faith. Give it and even the evil will be worked to your good. Faith not and your suffering will make your “woe is me” comments seem like the days of joy.

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YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT

Justice7777777 said...

Ouch

Be careful fruit. In two weeks Kurt is going to show how god used you.

Where have I heard that "two weeks" thing before?

I think my favorite is when Kurt predicts breast cancer for Scot's wife. What a swell leader. How do people follow this crap?!

provb1022 said...

IMBIGO "ALL I'VE EVER SEEN THESE TWO DO WAS ASK FOR TOTAL DISCLOSER, EVERY THING HAS BEEN DONE IN OPEN!!! NOTHING SECRET!"

That’s all I see them do without knowing them personally. I have heard Kurts voice on the phone and I have a friend who knows Kurt on a business level and spiritual level. He is convinced of their sincerity and their commitment to the Lord. This is what I hear in Kurts posts and voice.

Fruit, Happy to be of service...

I understand what you are dealing with based on the words you have copied from Kurt. The statements I see above the Private message as taken out of context. Perhaps Kurt says it all in his private message when he says "You pray to your “Jesus” for this prophecy to be false and I’ll pray to mine for it to be true." Some fruits take time to ripen. The season for fruit ripening, and tasting is upon us.

son of a prophet said...

mog,

we agree that the HS trumpt the written word as the written word can be corrupted.

we disagree on whether polygamy is allowed; remember, the HS (taht little voice in your head) just says that there is something wdrong about haveing more thatn one wife. you can just sense it.

this is a problem that i have with those who do not stick soley to the NT when trying to make a point; they use the OT when it suits them and the NT when it suits them.

IF i did that, i coould live one jolly old life; as takeing the best of both would do just fine.

mulitple wives when it suits me; allowing to kill when it suits me (as david and moses did) and just about anythkng when it suits me; and then going to the new testament whent it served my purpose (yeshua turning over the tabvles, and cursing the moneymen/bankster)

mog,

a lot of fourms i go in all do this; use both old and new to make thier point, but you just cant have it both ways.

and does the HS give 'apparetnly' different wisdom on the same issue to different ppl.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT; YES, HE DOES.


THE HS ONLY GIVES US WHAT IS GOOD FOR US TO KNOW AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME. SO FOR EACH OF US, WHAT IS GOOD FOR US TO KNOW WILL BE DIFFERENT AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME AS WE ARE WORHTY TO RECEIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, 'THOU SHALLT NOT KILL' IS ONE.

THERRE ARE THOSE WHO SAY IT MEANS THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, BUT OK FOR MILITARY TO KILL. THEY ARE WRONG!

BUT HOW MANY THINK THIS? THOUSANDDS AND PERHAPS MILLIONS.

THEY COMPLETYELY FAIL TO LOOK AT YESHUAS LIFE AND SEE THAT HE WULD NOT KILL. SO WHY HASNT THE HS GIVEN THEM THIS INTREPRETAIN???

THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT WORTHY TO RECEIVE IT YET, OR THEY WULD KNOW THAT THE HS DOES NOT ADVOCATE KILLING FOR ANY REASON.

RMEMBER, WHOSE KINGDOM THIS IS?

TO KILL IS TO HOLD ON TO SOMETHING IN SATANS KINGDOM, AND YESHUA WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS.
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re; the banking licesne, yes we will see, but it seems like a good place to park some money or even a moderate amount of meony.

i am looking sereoulsy at the galleion fx. seems good and they are trying to bring down the inintal investment from 25K

son of a prophet said...

imbigo said...
SOP I have a question!!!!

HAVE YOU EVER MET KURT OR SCOTT?
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imbigo said...
The reason I ask is that its somewhat hard to judge some one you never met!!! and its also hard to make a judgement on a system witch you have no knowledge!!!
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No, i have never met them, BUT, WHERE IN THIS BLOG HAVE I EVER JUDGED THEM IN ANY WAY. IN FACT I HAVE SAID NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEM THE FEW TIMES THAT THEY WERE MENTIONED IN MY POSTS.


where did you get the idea from that i judged them??

son of a prophet said...

seeing a multiple question test in front of me is like waving a RED FLAG IN FRONT OF A BULL!

i just cannot resist....
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1. Is it the faith of Christ or my faith in Christ that saves?

IT IS THE FAITH OF CHRIST IN YOU THAT SAVES.







2. How do I spot a false prophet?

THERE ARE MANY WAYS, WHAT HE SAYS, HOW HE ACT, WHAT HE DOES....BUT, ULTIMATELY, THE HS IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO KNOW; THE HS WILL TELL YOU THAT ONE IS A FALSE PROPHET. AND EVEN THIS IS ONLY IF YOU ARE WORTHY AND ITS GOOD FOR YOU TO KNOW. GOD EVEN USES SOME OF THE FALSE TV PROPHEETS FOR A PURPOSE TOO. ALSO, THERE ARE NO WOMEN PROPHETS, THESE WOULD BE A PROPHETESS, JEZEBEL COMES TO MIND.



3. Will serving Christ guarantee me respect in this life?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! IN FACT, IN MOST PARTS IT WILL GIVE YOU LESS WORLDLY RESPECT.

REMEMBER, YESHUA SAID...'WHEN THEY HATE YOU, REMEMBER, THEY HATED ME FIRST...'


4. What convincing evidence is there that Christ is the Son of God?

TECHNICALLY, THERE IS NONE. ANYTHING CAN BE FABRICATED, OBJEXTS OR THE PRINTED WORD ETC.

ULTIMATELY, THE HS IS THE EVIDENCE FOR US TODAY. IN YESHUAS TIME, THERE WAS EVIDENCE; RAISING THE DEAD, HEALING THE SICK, 500 SAW HIM AFTER THE RESURRECTION, ETC.

TODAY, WE JUST HAVE THE HS INSIDE US THAT TELLS US THAT HE WAS THE SON OF GOD.



5. Is Scott evil on his own or a byproduct of mine?


NOT SURE WHAT IS MEANT BY THIS. AND ANYWAY IT WOULD REQUIRE ME TO JUDGE, WHICH I CANNOT DO.





6. Do I have to obey the law of God or Christ?

GOD AND YESHUA ARE THE SAME, BUT IF ONE MEANS GOD FROM THE OT, THEN THE ANSWER IS YESHUA FROM THE NT.




7. Was I mistaken to see bankers as crooks because of the log in my own eye?



AGAIN, THIS REQUIRES MAKING A JUDGEMENT. ONLY THE WRITER CAN DO THIS ON HIMSELF. IN ANY CASE, NONE OF US IS PERFECT, SO WHAT WE SEE IS A PRODUCT OF SOME BLINDNESS TAHT ALL OF US HAVE IN SOME FORM OR ANTOHER. NOT EXCUSING THE BANKERS HERE.

IF I AM HONEST, AND COULD HAVE OPENED A BANK AND MAKE MONEY BY THE BUSHEL, WOULD I HAVE???

OF COURSE I WOULD HAVE. WOULD I STILL DO IT TODAY? I HONESTLY DONT KNOW. SO I CANNOT JUDGE EVEN THE BANKERS, EVEN THO I KNOW THAT THEY ARE CORRUPT. MONEY IS A POWERFUL CORRUPTER OF MEN, FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.








8. Was the Song of Kurt an addition to the Bible like Chris Taylor expressed, incompatible, or self-righteous?

NO COMMENT. NOT SURE WHAT IS MEANT HERE.

Please post your answers here and......

mogel said...

Furit: "Your crooked approach to remedy the crooks in banking is clearly not of Christ."

I'm most interested in an explanation or proof of this & all of your specific reasons why you affirm this as truth. Please feel free to use scripture too or any proof that is available to you. Where is the crookedness when the Dorean presentment is plain & all questions are specific & their is full disclosure in the presentment in what happens upon default of the lenders. Please use the presentment to explain the fraud. If you can't do that, then, it's obvious you are ignorant of the process, & your voice is meaningless.

mogel said...

Furit: "Crooks are everywhere"

Does this mean crooks live in your own home & you have invited them in?

mogel said...

Fruit asked: "Did you use fraud?"

WHERE IS THE FRAUD & WHERE IS THE PROOF. ISN'T FRAUD AN ALLEGATION?

Did He make promises He couldn't keep?

WHAT PROMISE HAS NOT BEEN KEPT OR IS BEING WORKED ON AS WE SPEAK?

Did He get money?

IS GETTING MONEY EVIL? CAN I ASSUME YOU HAVE NEVER RECEIVED MONEY FOR JUST COMPENSATION?

Did He send the money to Latvia?

SENDING MONEY OVERSEAS IN & OF IT SELF PROVES NOTHING. MONIES WAS SENT TO LATVIA SO THE THIEVES YOU SAY ARE EVERYWHERE WOULDN'T TAKE IT LIKE THEY DID THE $280,000 OF DOREAN'S MONIES. ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT HAVE OVERSEAS ACCOUNTS CROOKS?
SHOULDN'T ONE HAVE FREEDOM WHERE DO PUT THEIR MONIES? DO YOU NOT BELIEVE IN FREEDOM?

Did He curse family members who opposed Him?

"COME FOLLOW ME. HE THAT LOVES FATHER OR MOTHER, OR BROTHER OR SISTER MORE THAN ME IS NOT WORTHY OF ME." "LEAD THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD." ALSO KURT SAID IT WASN'T A CURSE, BUT A LOVING REMINDER TO REPENT. FRUIT, DO YOU CURSE GOD BY FIGHTING HIM OR HIS SERVANTS?

Did He lie?

WHAT LIE ARE YOU REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY & WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THAT LIE? NOT INTERESTED IN GENERAL UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS

Did He file false documents?

AGAIN THIS IS AN ALLEGATION THAT HAS NEVER LEGALLY BEEN SHOWN IN COURT. THE PROOF OF DOREAN'S RIGHT TO FILE DOCUMENTS IS THE BANKS DEFAULT. THEIR DEFAULT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT SCOTT HAS POWER OF ATTORNEY. THE AGENCY BY ESTOPPEL DOCTRINE OF LAW. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE LAW CITES TO SUPPORT YOUR VIEW? CAN YOU?

Did He curse?

HAS GOD EVER CURSED SOMEONE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS?

The list goes on and on.

NOW THE LIST DOESN'T GO ON & ON. THAT'S ALL YOU CAN THINK OF. AGAIN, YOU HAVE SHOWN NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.

You, Kurt, are known by your fruit! Christ is not in you!

YES, HE IS KNOWN BY HIS FRUIT. AND THE SEED IS GOOD, HENCE, IT WILL SPOUT UNTIL A LARGE CROP FOR ALL CLIENTS. YES, CHRIST IS IN HIM, BUT YOU ARE TOO BLIND TO SEE. NOW WORK ON ANSWERING HIS QUESTIONS, GENIUS.

mogel said...

fRUIT SAID: "Prov, don't be so simple, Kurt's questions are bait.

I think you already know that."

SO WHAT IF THEY ARE? IF YOU ARE SUCH A SMART LITTLE FISHY, LIKE YOU PROFESS TO BE, YOU CAN TAKE THE BAIT, EAT IT & STILL GET OFF THE HOOK, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, CAN YOU? YOUR FRUIT OR YOUR ACTIONS OR YOUR DERFAULT PROVES IT BY STEERING AWAY FROM THE BAIT. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE BANKERS WHO DON'T TAKE THE BAIT EITHER. YOUR FRUIT IS TO DEFEND THE CROOKS, HENCE YOU ARE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION & BY MORAL SUPPORT.

mogel said...

IMBIGO SAID TO FUIT: I have a question!!!!

HAVE YOU EVER MET KURT OR SCOTT?

OF COURSE SHE HASN'T, MET HIM IN PERSON OR FELT OF HIS SPIRIT, NOR HAS SHE LISTENED TO HIM SPEAK ON CONFERENCE CALLS, NOR HAS SHE STUDIED HIS WORD. NOR HAS THE HOLY GHOST CONFIRMED TO HER THAT HE IS A SERVANT OF THE LORD ENGAGED IN A RIGHTEOUS CAUSE BECAUSE SHE IS NOT ONE OF HIS SHEEP & SO THE HOLY GHOST DOESN'T SPEAK TO HER. SHE IS COLD HEARTED, HARD HEARTED, A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING, PHARASEE FOLLOWING HYPOCRITE, NONFRUIT BEARING PIECE OF VINE THAT NEEDS TO BE THROWN IN THE FIRE, PURE & SIMPLE. AND THOSE ARE ONLY THE NICE THINGS I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HER. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF CURSING OR SWEARING TOO.

mogel said...

Fruit: I have a question for you. WHERE IS YOUR LICENSE TO BE A FRUIT INSPECTOR? LOL

Have you received any formal training for this, or did you just have to pay some money or a fee to get a piece of paper & where is your certification? Are you practicing illegally?

mogel said...

FRUIT: DOES KURT HAVE ANY GOOD FRUIT WHATSOEVER? A SIMPLE YES OR NO IS SUFFICIENT. CAN AN EVIL MAN PRODUCE ANY GOOD FRUIT?

AGAIN, WE ARE AWARE OF THE SCRIPTURES YOU QUOTE, BUT WHEN YOU POINT & SAY THE SCRIPTURE APPLIES TO KURT'S UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SHOWN NO UNRIGHTEOUS YET IN HIM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO BETTER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO BECAUE THE JURY IS GOING TO ACQUIT WITH WHAT YOU'VE PRODUCED TO DATE. YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER BROUGHT FORTH YOUR CASE. YOUR FRUIT IS STILL ROTTEN.

mogel said...

you will know them by their fruit said...
Just some fruit samples for the blind.

Kurt's OWN words . . .

"As I have said before Dorean has taken in about 5 million credits. This would mean that the brokers took in about 10 million credits. I have decided that I will fund the payback escrow to cover even the broker fees. I will even allow the fools like Gayle Marie Bradshaw who already contracted out of a refund to participate. For you critics this would mean I will be losing 10 million in broker compensation, 6 million in Letter of Credit fees and 12 million in trust expenses. Which means for you “love of money” idiots I have lost 28 million. Now you can criticize me for being a stupid investor. For 28 million I managed to purchase thousands of self centered, lazy, blame specialist clients."

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YES THAT'S A GOOD FRUIT. HE IS OFFERING TO GIVE BACK MONIES. HOW IS THAT A BAD FRUIT? YOU COMPLETELY LOST ME THERE. WHY DIDN'T YOU EDITORIALIZE OR COMMENT FOR THE BLIND SO THEY CAN SEE? DO YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THEY SEE WHAT YOU SEE?
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"We will see our desires have their way with those who oppose our freedom."

AGAIN, ANOTHER GOOD COMMENT & GOOD FRUIT. RIGHTEOUS DESIRES ARE A GOOD FRUIT. OPPOSING TYRANNY & PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS IS ALSO A GOOD FRUIT. AGAIN, YOU LOST ME THERE. THAT COMMENT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE WHAT A PATRIOT WOULD HAVE SAID LIKE MAYBE GEORGE WASHINGTON OR SOMEBODY DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.

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"I have been given the blueprints to your house of cards and I will plunder your house and expose every one of you as the political kiss-ass hacks that you are."

ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. WORKING FOR JUSTICE, AND GETTING A JUST REWARD BACK, IS GOOD. AGAIN YOU LOST ME THERE FRUIT. JESUS ALWAYS CALLED IT THE WAY IT WAS TOO. HE CALLED THE PHARASEES LIARS & HYPOCRITES.

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"It appears to me that a few whiners have found their great opportunity to blame me for their woes"

ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. TELLING THE TRUTH WITHOUT PULLING ANY PUNCHES. COURSE, FRUIT, MAYBE YOU PREFER A WEAK OR A SOFT MAN WITH NO BACK-BONE? IS THIS THE KIND OF MAN YOU ARE MARRIED TO?

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"You need to get off your self-pity sluggard asses "

ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. MOTIVATING PEOPLE & CALLING THEM TO REPENTANCE TO GET THEM OFF THEIR LAZY IGNORANCE HOPEFULLY.

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"Yes people are hurt, welcome to reality, no apology. Where I differ from you idiots is that I understand the value of my labor. Your free keystrokes aren’t even worth that price."

ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. NO APOLOGY MEANS NO ADMITTED WRONG DOING. I AM A CLIENT & I'VE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PRICE OF KURT'S LABOR OR WORK. I AGREE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BARGAIN. IT'S A GOOD FRUIT TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE VALUABLE. IT IS A BAD FRUIT TO HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM OR A PERCEIVED VALUE OF WORTH OF ONESELF. FRUIT, YOU LOST ME THERE TOO. AGAIN, WHY DIDN'T YOU COMMENT ON THESE THINGS?

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"Should I owe you endless concern for the $1,500.00 that you paid me? Is that really your expectation? I owe no one except myself"

AGAIN ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. IT WOULD BE A BAD FRUIT IF KURT CONTINUED TO ENABLE CLIENTS DUE TO THEIR BAD BEHAVIOUR, THUS CRIPPLING THEM SPIRITUALLY OR MAYBE FRUIT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY & HOW TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE FROM WITHIN?

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"I should forgive you for your ignorance, absolve you of choice, show concern for your need, have compassion for your suffering, and love you unconditionally. Well I won’t."

AGAIN ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT, TELLING THE TRUTH & BEING PLAIN IN SPEAKING. GOD DOESN'T LOVE US UNCONDITIONALLY EITHER. HE HAS CONDITIONS IN HIS GOSPEL. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO NOT REPENT & BE BAPTIZED, YOU ARE DAMNED. IS THAT GIVING BLESSINGS OR LOVING UNCONDITIONALLY? DOES HE NOT SEND THE WICKED TO HELL? YOU HAVE TO LOVE A MAN THAT TELLS THE TRUTH.

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PRIVATE MESSAGE

This is solely for Evil Ex and forgotten son. I have not read your comments but know the content because I know the heart of fools. I am glad you posted the poison of your souls here so that your shame can easily find you. Both of you serve an idol of your own making by imagination and just because you named it “Jesus” you think it real. Finally you have a man of faith who loves you and who lives for the true living God and you think him evil. Actually you think him a fool overcome by the pure evil of me. Now that you are a man bright son you have come to that clear wisdom where you can judge your father. How stupid can you be. The prophet is known by the veracity of his words. Well this evil man prophesies this to you and though your ears won’t hear it your eyes will see it. The spirit of the locust has been sent out against you. Everything you put your hand to will not prosper. If you reach the harvest of your labor thieves will take it. If you are not robbed you will lose it by foolish decisions. You will crave respect but can not earn it. All the help that protected you by your father’s prayer is set aside. Evils will creep in upon you from every side. Though you say in your heart I ought to do this you will find no power to do it. Like pharaoh all the tenderness your heart was destined to shall become rock hard. This desert you will wander until you come to your senses and recognize the only deliver the Lord has given the map to for your exit is your father. Repent and it will be well with you. Even as you read this your heart takes offense and your dark journey begins.

Now Evil Ex whose only truth is in the appropriate title, I’m certain you spun your toxic web of blame. You probably set your sacred church above your husband in righteousness as you do yourself. Well a stupid son is the great trophy of your wisdom. Scott and I prayerfully sought hope for you but evil has not yet completed its circuit in you. Likewise this evil prophet speaks to you. The queerest thing about evil people they think themselves good. Now you and I stand opposed to each other slinging the same fact, “evil.” Only one speaks truth. Let God decide. You pray to your “Jesus” for this prophecy to be false and I’ll pray to mine for it to be true. You have craved all bitter food and though many efforts have placed the sweet words of God before you, your gut was not yet full. It is full now and is evidence by the vomit you project into the world as words. You have lusted for control and the comfort a god of your own making. Your hands will be busy trying to tidy your life but it is decreed to be a mess. The spirit that has possessed you will no longer be restrained, you are given over to its will. Judgment will be well defined in your mind but all those around you will see you becoming mad. The bitterness of your soul shall toxify your body and manifest itself as breast cancer. God will not hear your prayers for deliverance or healing. If you repent, come to your senses, and recognize the stench of your righteousness. God will hear the prayers of Scott. He will keep Scott’s heart tender towards you for a short season. Time is not your friend and grace has made the demand of your faith. Give it and even the evil will be worked to your good. Faith not and your suffering will make your “woe is me” comments seem like the days of joy.

AGAIN, A GOOD FRUIT. "THE LORD CHASTIZES WHOM HE LOVES." YOUR FRIENDS WILL WARN YOU OF IMPENDING DOOM, YOUR ENEMIES WON'T. THIS WAS ALL DONE IN LOVE, UNFORTUNATELY YOU SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE A DIFFICULT ONE TO TEACH FRUIT. HEY, IF IT'S THE TRUTH, TAKE IT LIKE A COURAGEOUS PERSON & CONSIDER THE SOURCE OF TRUTH, NOT THE ONE THAT IS DELIVERING THE MESSAGE.

_________________________________

YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT

Yes, Fruit, that is one thing we can both agree on, you do know someone by their fruit. Why can't we agree on the different conclusion we draw from the fruits listed?

11:07 PM


Justice7777777 said...
Ouch

Be careful fruit. In two weeks Kurt is going to show how god used you.

AGAIN, FRUIT YOU AREN'T LISTENING, SO WHAT'S NEW?

Where have I heard that "two weeks" thing before?

I DON'T KNOW, YOU TELL ME?

I think my favorite is when Kurt predicts breast cancer for Scot's wife. What a swell leader. How do people follow this crap?!

SOMEONE'S CRAP IS ANOTHER MAN'S TREASURE.

mogel said...

SOP: YOu are very insightful. YOu bring forth many excellent points. The polygamy issue is tough to understand even for Mormons, probably more difficult to the ladies, even difficult for me to grasp it's purposes & why it has been required in some generations as opposed to in others. Yes it is wrong for most people to practice a higher law because they can't do it in righteosness & these people would just screw things up anyway. The New Testament is the higher law to bring people to Christ. The Old Testament contained the lower law for people who were less spiritually oriented. People that only use the O.T. are probably people of lower intelligence that have not progessed spiritually. The Lord gives to us based upon our ability to understand & grasp His concepts & live accordingly. We are all at different levels & the Lord expects us to do the best with what we have. If we can do that, we are living with his approval. Where much is given, much is expected, where little is given, little is expected. Kind of like the parable of the talents. Most people can't love the one wife they have, let alone loving 2 people the same way. By the way, I am a single man. I have never been married. I don't let difficult concepts trouble with too much.

mogel said...

"What convincing evidence is there that Christ is the Son of God?"

HOW ABOUT THE EVIDENCE OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SEEING HIM IN THE FLESH AFTER THE RESURRECTION, NOT ONLY IN JERUSALEM, BUT ON THIS THE AMERICAN CONTINENT, AS RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF MORMON? PRETTY CONVINCING STUFF THERE WHICH CAN'T BE EXPLAINED AWAY. THE APOSTLES FELT THE PRINT OF THE NAILS IN HIS HANDS & IN HIS FEET ALSO. HE WAS CRUCIFIED & CAME BACK? ONLY THE LITERAL SON OF GOD IN THE FLESH COULD HAVE DONE THAT. HE DID WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.

mogel said...

"Was I mistaken to see bankers as crooks because of the log in my own eye?"

REMEMBER FRUIT, AN UNRIGHTEOUS MAN WOULD NOT ADMIT TO HAVING A LOG IN HIS OWN EYE, ONLY A HUMBLE MAN WOULD DO THAT. IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW A HUMBLE MAN. AGAIN, ANOTHER GOOD FRUIT. DESPITE THE ALLEGED LOG IN HIS EYE, HE IS STILL 100% RIGHT ON IN CALLING A SPADE A SPADE & CALLING THE BANKERS CROOKS. NO UNRIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT THERE. JESUS WOULD NEVER COMDEMN A MAN IN RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT. APPARENTLY, YOU ARE ABOVE THAT THOUGH, HUH? HOW PRIDEFUL IS THAT?

mogel said...

"And I would exhort you, my beloved brethren, that ye remember that he is the same, yesterday, today, and forever, and that all these gifts of which I have spoken, which are spiritual, never will be done away, even as longa s the world shall stand, only according to the UNBELIEF of the children of men.

Wherefore, there must be faith, and there must be faith, there must also be hope, and if there must be hope there must also be charity.

And except ye have charity ye can in nowise be saved in the kingdom of God; neither can ye be saved in the kingdom of God if you have not faith; neither can you if ye have no hope.

And if ye have no hope ye must needs be in despair; and DESPAIR COMETH BECAUSE OF INIQUITY.

And Christ truly said unto our fathers: If ye have faith ye CAN DO ALL THINGS WHICH ARE EXPEDIENT UNTO ME."

Fruit, you have no faith, hope, or charity, and must be in despair due to ininquity. You have NOT once expressed any of these 3 qualities in ANY of your posts towards Kurt. You have inspired no one with any faith, hope, or charity in regards to the purpose of this blog. I affirm that Kurt has provided, faith, hope, & charity. What comfort or charity, or hope or faith fruit have you profited to those hurting? Have you inspired anyone to believe the truth?

Why is that? Is that one of your unrighteous fruits, just wrongful judgments that have no good bearing fruits? How has your doom & gloom & condemnation provided comfort to anyone? What good purpose have you served other than to prove that you are TOTALLY WRONG? I don't feel the Spirit in you, nor have I seen any spiritual fruit coming from you. Why is that?

tcob247 said...

I hope nobody ever accuses me again of spending to much time on this blog.

I think Mogel and SOP are the clear winners

Just a bunch of hot air and no resolving of issues

mogel said...

Tcob: Be just a little more patient. Just because you can't see the resolving of issues happening, doesn't mean things AREN'T BEING RESOLVED. I was about to say, just "hang in there", but there's no fun in being hanged, is there?

mogel said...

Fruit: Here is some lessons in judging that you didn't learn in your school academy:

"Wherefore a man being evil CANNOT do that which is good; neither will he give a good gift."

For behold a bitter fountain cannot bring foth good water; neither can a good fountain bring foth bitter water; wherefore, a man being a servant of the devil CANNOT FOLLOW CHRIST; and if he follow Christ he cannot be a servant of the devil.

Wherefore, ALL THINGS which are good cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against him continually, and inviteth and enticeth to do sin, and to do that which is evil CONTINUALLY.

But behold that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good CONTINUALLY; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is INSPIRED OF GOD.

Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or, OR THAT WHICH IS GOOD AND OF GOD TO BE OF THE DEVIL.

For behold my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye MAY KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL; and the way to judge is as plain; that ye may know WITH A PERFECT KNOWLEDGE, AS THE DAYLIGHT IS FROM THE DARK NIGHT.

For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; where I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth bv the power and gift of Christ; where ye may know WITH A PERFECT KNOWLDGE IT IS OF GOD.

But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge, it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, NOT ONE; netiher do his angels; neither do they WHO SUBJECT THEMSELVES UNTO HIM.

And now, my beloved brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that YE DO NOT JUDGE WRONGFULLY; FOR WITH THAT SAME JUDGMENT WHICH YE JUDGE YE SHALL ALSO BE JUDGED.

Wherefore, I beeseech of you brethren, that ye should search diligently in the light of Christ that ye may know good from evil, and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, AND CONDEMN IT NOT, YE CERTAINLY WILL BE A CHILD OF CHRIST."

Fruit, has Kurt ever denied the Christ or has he always given credit and praise to Him? Why is that? Is that because he is a child of the devil telling lies? Who are you following, the Christ or the Father of all lies?

neodemes said...

"People that only use the O.T. are probably people of lower intelligence that have not progessed spiritually."

Way to slam God's chosen people, moog.

Are you anti-semetic?

Try to keep your answer to a 5 page dissertation.

LOL

Rodney King said...

Can't we all just get along?

Happy Mother's Day!

neodemes said...

mogel sez:

"HE IS STILL 100% RIGHT ON IN CALLING A SPADE A SPADE & CALLING THE BANKERS CROOKS. NO UNRIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT THERE. "

Really? He and you paint with a broad brush, don't you?

Do you know all these bankers personally? Any of them? Could some, or all, be brothers in Christ, even?

You have no way of knowing, yet you label them all 'evil banksters', and preach to the rest of us, calling us pharisees and sadducees (two diametrically opposed groups, btw).

You think you have Fruit all figured out.

You're the Blogs answer man, presenting speculation as fact.

Good grief.

mogel said...

No, Nemo, I have alot of Jewish blood on my Dad's side. Not anti-semetic. The Jews will accept Christ in the latter days in large numbers & see the error of their ways, especially after Jesus literally saves them from their enemies. They have not up to this point because they are following the lower laws. That will change soon enough. That is just a fact & has already been prophesied. I meant no disrespect. God is no respector to persons, he loves the Jew & the Gentile alike & all people regardless of where they are on their spirituality. Sometimes when people are plain in speech, it offends. Maybe I should work on that fault.

neodemes said...

Right.

Happy Mother's Day to ALL you Mothers.

;-)

mogel said...

Nemo: Bankers can repent too. Although none of the lenders decided to come clean & repent when the presentment was presented for any clients. All we can go on is what has been experienced to date. Maybe you have some evidence otherwise?

If you prefer that I call the loan process that the bankers promote as a scam and the person passing off this scam as a brother in Christ, I suppose we could do that, although I feel a little uncomfortable doing that if the loan officer is fully aware of what he is doing & promoting. Let's assume that many bankers are unaware that they are stealing. OK, let's give some mercy to them, as long as they don't deny the cold facts after they have studied them, and have been challenged the facts. Maybe you have a valid point in some respect. You seem to care alot about the bankers interests. Course it's hard to continue a practice when you know it's wrong, is it not if you are indeed a brother in Christ? I'm all for showing some mercy towards the ignorant if that's what they truly are, ignorant and nothing more.

mogel said...

Nemo: Do you have Fruit all figured out? If you do, I'd like to hear your view? Is she a prophet? Is she 100% correct in her accusations? What say you?

mogel said...

Nemo: Are you saying that Fruit is the answer person & we should follow her?

Does she present speculation as Facts?

Is it a fact that Dorean cannot succeed in delivering it's promises & that Kurt is evil? I would say that you have presented that premise as a Fact, or am I mistaken? Do I need to go through your forum with a fine tooth comb to show this? Maybe YOU ARE THE ANSWER MAN? Could that be?

Why have you never chastized Fruit for presenting speculation as Facts? Or do you believe she has never done this? Or are you saying she deserves no intelligent response from you? Have you never presented speculation as Facts, not admitting that I have done this, mind you. Are you perfectly perfect on this accusation from your mouth against me? I'm confused & need some wisdom from you.

What say ye, oh Lord of flatulence & defender of the ignorant? For it is now the day to choose whom you serve & be counted before the judgment day.

mogel said...

Nemo: I'll give you a few extra days to answer my questions if you need it.

money said...

1.Your faith in Christ.
2.By their works you will know them
3.They hated me first,you're next.
4.The word of God who cannot lie.
5.Every man must give account to God for himself, and will be paid according as his work shall be.
6.Obeying the law of Christ,(love) is obeying the law of God.
7.You shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free.
8.I never heard the song -of-Kirt,nothing can be added to the bible, it is close and settled in Heaven. "Willie"

mogel said...

Nemo: Has not the Federal government indictment against the Dorean Group presented allegations or speculations as FACTS in order to show criminal conduct?

If so, why have you never commented on that & chastized the Federal Government's motives or actions?

Can I assume that you are a fair person & objective & open minded?

Or in the alternative, maybe you sincerrely believe that the prosecutor is presenting all facts & that the Dorean fate is sealed for doom?

Which is it?

Or maybe you are just ignorant & unsure?

If you are unsure, why have you been so vocal against the Dorean Group from day one criticizing them always?

Or maybe I'm mistaken.. Maybe you would like to tell us all of the good that Dorean has done now, before Judgment day? Here is your chance. Take it before it may be too late.

History will be recording your words.

mogel said...

Kurt said: "When this voice called me to start the Dorean Group I knew instantly I was headed for trouble. The fact that this did not hinder me is where the misinterpretation begins. I am seasoned at hearing His voice and knowing its reliability. But the courage I have to trust it is a gift. You are viewing this man who is being worn as a cloak with the power of expression coming from Him who has put me on. I am honored to be of service to my Master, even if I am stained, torn, tattered, and or destroyed. The battle is not mine nor is the honor I am simply along for the ride."

Fruit, have you heard the voice of the Lord to inspire you to fight this work & dishonor it? I need a simple YES OR NO.

If you don't answer, one way or the other, I will conclude that you have been sent by Satan to disrupt a holy cause.

neodemes said...

You must have a heck of a lot of free time on your hands, mogel.

You scenarios of success hinge on agency by estoppel, to a large degree.

I've pointed out this one in the past...here it is again.

promissory estoppel - A type of estoppel that prevents a person who made a promise from reneging when someone else has reasonably relied on the promise and will suffer a loss if the promise is broken.

May the best estopple win.

Justice7777777 said...

Mogel,

Do you have to sniff clue or smoke pot in order to justify kurt? If you don't answer in the next five seconds I will assume you do both.
(I used dorean tactics for that last question--I got it off the dvd)

Dorean = Zero accountability. This fruit lady (or fello I don't know) ripped you guys a new one and your only response . . . "who are you to judge?"

Short of kurt committing murder I don't think anything will persuade the cult following that kurt is the king of crap.

Game, set, match, fruit took you guys to the cleaners.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck . . . "who are you to judge us, quack, quack!!"

Thanks for the laughs.

I don't know much bible but I think I know more than that proverbs guy. He is a walking contradiction. I think he had three fights with himself, losing all three times. And Mogel--well you are special. You could give three blind mice a run for their money. Your logic couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a shotgun . . . . with you standing IN the barn.

SOP skoot on over. We are going to have to make some extra space in the rubber room. At least you are making friends.

neodemes said...

mogel sez:

"Maybe you would like to tell us all of the good that Dorean has done now, before Judgment day?"

Alrighty then.

Here is my list.

1.)

neodemes said...

Back to agency by estopple -

Again, this has been pointed out before, but, maybe it will sink in this time:



http://www.businesspowerlaw.com/12/44

B. WAYS THAT AGENCY MAY BE ESTABLISHED
It has traditionally been recognized that agency may be proved to exist in four ways: first, by direct evidence of an expressed contract of agency; second, by proof of facts which raise the implication of such a contract (implied agency); third, by ratification; and, fourth, by estoppel (i.e., one who avails himself of such acts as are beneficial to him cannot repudiate the burdens which accompany such acts).......

"Creation of authority: General Rule. Except for the execution of instruments under seal, or for the performance of transactions required by statute to be authorized in a particular way, authority to do an act can be created by written or spoken words, or other conduct of the principal which, reasonably interpreted, causes the agent to believe that the principal desires him so to act on the principal's account." .........

Acquiescence by Principal in Agent's Conduct. Acquiescence by the principal is conduct of an agent whose previously conferred authorization reasonably might include it, indicates that the conduct was authorized; if clearly not included in the authorization, acquiescence in it indicates affirmance." (emphasis added) ..........

G. COURT PRECEDENT
There is, of course, long established precedent, both from the courts and the NLRB, for the proposition that one who has promoted an act from another and has accepted the benefit from such act cannot hide behind the argument that there was no agency between the actor and itself in order to existed an agency relationship between a creditor and a collection agent when the collection agent acted in a manner which insured a benefit to the creditor and the creditor made no effort to divorce itself from the actions of the collection agent. .......

http://august1.com/lectures/mgr/lect-01/notes01.htm
B. Termination by Operation of Law: the law provides that agencies shall terminate in certain circumstances:
1. Circumstances in which law terminates an agency relationship:
a. Death of the principal or agent.
b. Insanity of the principal or agent.
1) Durable agency ("durable power of attorney") can expressly provide that it will continue despite the disability (but not the death) of an agent.
c. Bankruptcy of the principal.
d. Loss or destruction of the subject matter of the agency.
e. Change in business conditions that would make an agent believe that the principal would want the agency terminated.
f. Change in the law that makes the agency relationship illegal.
g. Disloyalty of the agent – if an agent breaches his duty of loyalty to the principal, by acquiring, for example, interests adverse to the principal without the principal's knowledge, the agency is terminated.
h. Outbreak of war when the principal and agent are from opposing warring countries.

http://www.oz.uc.edu/~stedmabn/Chapter16.pdf.
States the agency exists for the benefit of the principal and the agent must endeavor to use his/her best efforts to advance and support the principals best interest.And because the agency is required to act for the principals' benefit and under his/her control, the agent must obey all reasonable instructions. avoid liability. For example, in Wolverton Associates v. Official Creditors Committee, 909 F.2d 1286 (9th Cir. 1990), the Ninth Circuit found no fault with the lower court's assertion that there
http://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/search/display.html?terms=principal%20((agent%20or%20agency)%20or%20authority)%20not%20liibulletin&url=/nyctap/I97_0028.htm
It is undisputed that Public Service Mutual never signified any acceptance of the terms and conditions of the financing agreements, as the notices required. Thus, no express ratification by Public Service Mutual ever took place (see, Restatement [Second] of Agency § 82 & cmt a [principal may become liable for its agent's unauthorized acts by adopting the agent's actions and electing to become a party to the transaction]). Moreover, the rule that ratification may be implied where the principal retains the benefit of an unauthorized transaction with knowledge of the material facts (see, Deyo v Hudson, 225 NY 602, 614, rearg denied 226 NY 685; 2 NY Jur 2d, Agency §§ 170, 171, 173), has no application here, since it is undisputed that Public Service Mutual received no premiums or any other benefit in connection with the fraudulent financing agreements.

V. Agent's Duties to the Principal
A. Agent's Contractual Duties: because most agency relationships are based on a contract, express contractual duties apply.
B. Agent's Legal Duties: the law of agency establishes 5 duties that agents owe to principals.
1. Fiduciary Duty: this duty is based on the idea that an agency is a relationship based on trust and confidence.
a. Loyalty: agent is to act in good faith and solely in principal's interest.
b. Confidentiality: agent may not use or disclose confidential information obtained in the course of the agency for his own interest and contrary to the principal's interest.
c. Avoid conflicts of interest.
1) Not represent a principal in transactions in which agent has an interest.
2) Not compete with principal or act on behalf of a competitor.
3) Not enter into a dual agency without authorization of both principals.
a) Dual agency: agent represents two principals who have an adverse interest in the same transactions.

And as far as agency by estoppel............
: an agency that is not created as an actual agency by a principal and an agent but that is imposed by law when a principal acts in such a way as to lead a third party to reasonably believe that another is the principal's agent and the third party is injured by relying on and acting in accordance with that belief
NOTE: A principal has a duty to correct a third party's mistaken belief in an agent's authority to act on the principal's behalf. If the principal could have corrected the misunderstanding but failed to do so, he or she is estopped from denying the existence of the agency and is bound by the agent's acts in dealing with the third party.

mogel said...

Justice666:

I don't use any drugs.

5 seconds huh? Aren't you exaggerating a little bit that you got it off the DVD? Even a court usually gives you 20 days to answer & even then you must be notified. If I am not here on the blog doing other things, how can I respond fairly to your statement in time? How just is that?

Hey did I tell you, I like your username? It tells me alot about who you THINK YOU ARE.

Kurt's prophecy of breast cancer was a sign that he isn't a wicked man spewing all B.S. & that he does have the gift of prophecy & EVEN A SIGN THAT HIS WORK IS SANCTIONED BY THE LORD.

A wicked & an adulterous generation seeketh after a sign. Well, a sign was given. You naysayers only got what you asked for. If you pray hard enough, & seek after false gods, you'll get what you want....even if it isn't good for you. Actually many signs were given, but the one sign that people paid attention to was very specific, the cancer sign, so there is no question about Kurt's perception & judgment & prophetic prowess once this comes to pass. It doesn't look like Scott & Evil X will get back together, nor that Evil X has repented, so I can't be hopful for her, nor for her future health.


A sign of a true prophet is that the prophecies come true. Read it & weep, criticize & laugh, it makes no difference to me. The truth is the truth regardless of your snied comments.

mogel said...

Justice 666 said: "Game, set, match, fruit took you guys to the cleaners."

OH REALLY? She has NOT responded at all to my rebuttal. She is just a fruity as you are.

mogel said...

Nemo: "You must have a heck of a lot of free time on your hands, mogel."

YEA ABOUT AS MUCH FREE TIME AS YOU HAVE. I ATTRIBUTE MY FREE TIME TO LISTENING TO YOUR VOCATIONAL ADVISE. THANK-YOU VERY MUCH.

mogel said...

jUSTICE666 SAID: "I don't know much bible but I think I know more than that proverbs guy."

OH REALLY? SOMETHING TELLS ME WHO YOU THINK IS A HE IS A SHE.

Prov 10:22, Are you a male or a female because I honestly don't know intellectually? I'm just curious. Please satisfy my curiosity.

neodemes said...

Mogel sez:

"Kurt's prophecy of breast cancer was a sign that he isn't a wicked man spewing all B.S. & that he does have the gift of prophecy & EVEN A SIGN THAT HIS WORK IS SANCTIONED BY THE LORD."

Was Scott's wife diagnosed with breast cancer?

(just for the record, its 'snide' - the first time I assumed it was a typo, but you've used 'snied' a couple of times now - hth)

mogel said...

Justice 666 said: "Dorean = Zero accountability."

NO JUSTICE, 0 ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHEN YOU TAKE THE MONEY & RUN & YOU ARE NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN & HAVE NO CARE WHATSOEVER ON WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO SOMEONE & DON'T EVER CARE TO FULFLIL OR TRY TO FULFILL YOUR PROMISES. HEY, I'M GLAD YOU AREN'T MY JUDGE. AS FAR AS JUDDGING, I GAVE A STANDARD BY A HOLY PROPHET. DON'T LIKE THE STANDARD? DON'T REALLY MUCH CARE WHAT YOU THINK. YOU ARE NO ONE I RESPECT.

ACCOUNTABILITY INCLUDES CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THIS BLOG TO DISCUSS PROGRESS, & WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, & WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE TO THE FINISH LINE.

DON'T LIKE MY LOGIC? I DON'T LIKE YOUR DONALD DUCK EXAMPLES THAT DON'T EVEN FIT THE DISCUSSION. IS MAGIC ACTUALLY TRUE, BECAUSE THE TRICK LOOKS LIKE IT REALLY HAPPENED, THEFORE THE MAGIC TRICK IS A FACT? DOES THOSE MAGICIANS IN LAS VEGAS REALLY DISAPPEAR ELEPHANTS OFF THE STAGE IN 5 SECONDS? I SUPPOSE BY YOUR ANALOGY YOU BELIEVE THAT, SO LOGICALLY SPEAKING, I THINK YOU ARE A MORON. AFTER ALL, IF IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, WALKS LIKE A DUCK, IT MUST BE A DUCK. iF MY EYES TELL ME THE ELEPHANT IS NOT THERE, WELL, IT MUST NOT BE THERE. YOU'VE BEEN SEDUCED TO BELIEVE THE BANKERS LIE BECAUSE YOU DEFEND IT. YOU'RE THE BLIND IDIOT, NOT ME. YOUR OWN WORDS DECEIVE YOU & SHOW YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE.

I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY YOU DON'T LIKE ME. I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE YOU AS A FRIEND. WE HAVE THAT IN COMMON AT LEAST, A NATURAL DISGUST FOR EACH OTHER. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, YOU MOTHER....... I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOUR HERO, NEMO SAID THAT WHOM YOU RESPECT.

Justice7777777 said...

rebuttal???????????????????

lol

Reload that shotgun Mogel

hint: the barn is the big red thing

Justice7777777 said...

Mogel said, "By the way, I am a single man. I have never been married."

Shocker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't see that coming.

Justice7777777 said...

My bad on the zero accountabilty.

Dorean = low fat milk accountability












02%

neodemes said...

MOGEL, YOU SURE ARE YELLING A LOT LATELY.

Take a deep breath. It will be OK.

Here is a mantra for you:

O -WA

TA-GOO

SIAM

Just repeat that until you feel better.

:-)

Justice7777777 said...

Mogel said,

"I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY YOU DON'T LIKE ME. I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE YOU AS A FRIEND. WE HAVE THAT IN COMMON AT LEAST, A NATURAL DISGUST FOR EACH OTHER. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, YOU MOTHER....... I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOUR HERO, NEMO SAID THAT WHOM YOU RESPECT."

Losing our cool a little bit ey ducky. Quack , Quack.

Not even one date . . . c'mon! The chicas don't dig your ramblings on the evils of Wells Fargo? Well you are better off. The only thing the Dorean Group has had success discharging is marriages (It's ok to laugh--you know that was good).

mogel said...

Nemo asked: "Was Scott's wife diagnosed with breast cancer?"

WAS A TIME FRAME GIVEN FOR THIS PROPHECY TO COME TRUE? DOES IT MATTER THE TIME FRAME, AS LONG AS IT DOES COME TRUE EVENTUALLY? YOU & ALL NAYSAYERS ARE SO CAUGHT UP IN TIME RESTRAINTS. SIT BACK & RELAX & ENJOY THE RIDE. IT'S MEANT TO BE ENJOYED.

MAYBE EVIL X CAN COME TO THE BLOG & COMMENT ON HER HEALTH AT THE PRESENT TIME & ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW SHE IS DOING IN GENERAL RIGHT NOW & IF HER LIFE IS GOING TO POT DUE TO HER DECISIONS & CONTROL ISSUES. HEY THE WORST THING ABOUT THE PROPHESY WASN'T THE BREAST CANCER, (YOU CAN BEAT THAT, MANY PEOPLE DO), THE WORST PART WAS THAT HER LIFE WOULDN'T PROSPER IN ANY RESPECTS.

I READ YOUR AGENCY LAW. DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC POINTS THAT YOU WANTED TO RAISE? THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.

mogel said...

Nemo: Ducks are horrible spellers. It's a fact that I have never to date found a duck that can spell that word correctly, you know, "snide".

mogel said...

Well, we have established that Justice666 has a sense of humor. Good for you.

mogel said...

Nemo: I feel better already. You must know more about natural healing than you do about mortgage fraud, you think?

you will know them by their fruit said...
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down but not out said...

Neo said to moog,

"People that only use the O.T. are probably people of lower intelligence that have not progessed spiritually."

Way to slam God's chosen people, moog.

Are you anti-semetic?

Try to keep your answer to a 5 page dissertation.


Of course he is neo,

Don't you know that the Mormons(as well as other Christians, right SOP?) have replaced the Jews as the chosen people.
The new Jerusalem will be built by Mormons in the U.S, somewhere in the mid west.

Isn't that what they teach moogie?

neodemes said...

You're a good speller, mogel, especially in contrast to some who post, not that its a big deal. Just trying to give you a heads-up on a particular word.

Regarding the breast cancer prophecy...

Your wording made it sound like the prophecy had already come true, else why would it show that he has a gift for prophecy???

you will know them by their fruit said...

Thank you for your reply Mogel. Thank you for showing everyone how doreanites try to spin even the worst behaviors by Kurt.

Kurt was unknowingly right. God was able to use my response for His will. But that's God for ya, He has been battling Satan for years.

Mogel, I pray you will find the error of your ways. I hope the same for Kurt. But you both have been wasting these pearls. I will continue to post to fight the good fight but I must not waste time on swine. My Father told me so. And His will is my only concern.

Justice7777777. If you could please show some restrain. As much as the world in me would love to respond to these guys in your chosen fashion, let’s leave the name calling to willie and the others (but you did make me laugh).

God Bless all

neodemes said...

uh-oh Down. I don't want to be in the middle of this one.

Just to clarify, the part about the O.T. - "People that only use the O.T. are probably people of lower intelligence that have not progessed spiritually." - was a qoute from mogel, and not me speaking.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "an agency that is not created as an actual agency by a principal and an agent but that is imposed by law when a principal acts in such a way as to lead a third party to reasonably believe that another is the principal's agent and the third party is injured by relying on and acting in accordance with that belief"

I'm sorry but that isn't even a complete sentence or coherent thought. Would you like to elucidate on that mess to explain it's meaning?

mogel said...

Down But Not Out:

Just curious, what is your definition of "chosen people"? God has had many "chosen people" throughout time. He loves those & chooses those that serve him & obey Him? Didn't you read the scripture I quoted about "the first shall be last and the last shall be first"? Maybe you didn't understand it?
This is not ncecessarily simply Mormon doctrine but Biblical doctrine as well. The chosen people rejected Him, remember, crucified him & put him to death? Or have you forgotten your history? What kind of spiritual awareness & acumen does that take? To answer your question, here it is:

"We believe in the literal gathering of Israel, and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes, that Zion, (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent, that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory."

neodemes said...

First, here is a missing link:

http://dictionary.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/results.pl?co=dictionary.findlaw.com&topic=bd/bd3cf34aea1cecb1dca20bdb3484f8c0

Try this on for size, it should help clarify that mess.

http://www.4554.com/Glossary/ESTOPPEL.html

Why you persist in believing that Agency by Estoppel is a magic bullet for Dorean is beyond me. (Feel free to run with that - lol)

down but not out said...

Moog,
there are 12 tribes, not ten. The Jewish people as a whole did not reject the Messiah. In fact most all of the first converts where Jews, like the twelve desciples? Christianity was thaought of as a sect of Judiaism for much of the first tweo centuries, until the anti-semitism of the Romans crept in. That is when you see the blending of Roman paganism and Chrisianity firstn starting.

The reason Jews reject Jesus is because the modern Christian church teaches that He broke the the Law(Torah) of God on repeated occasions, which is just no true. OT prophesy strictly states that if the Messiah breaks the Torah, or causes it to be null, he can not be the true Savior. That is why they reject him today. The church tries to hit them over the head with a pork eating ,Sabbath breaking, Torah abrrogating Messiah, no wonder they reject Him.

As for the New Jerusalem in the U.S pure unabulterated B.S.

A spiritual leader at the war crimes trial of one of the German S.S. in charge of gassing the Jews at Aushvits was asked about the salvation of a man responsible for killing millions of Jews, "he was afterall baptised a Christian" so his salvation is ironclad. As for the 6 million Jews, he was asked?
"Of course they are all in hell" was his reply.
You're in good company man

down but not out said...

Neo,
I know moogie posted that, sorry for the confusion.

mogel said...

Nemo: That's a good question about the breast cancer issue. I would just say that Kurt felt inspired to post that "private message". You've got to know Kurt KNEW he was going to get slack from posting it, before he posted it, he's not that insensitive as people have accused him of being, BUT HE HAS HIS PRIORITIES, but when you are inspired to do things, for WHATEVER PURPOSE THE HOLY SPIRIT TELLS YOU (AND YOU DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND AT FIRST), you DO IT ANYWAY, regardless of the consequences. It'
all about the "gift of trusting" & this is one of his special gifts, & you listen to what the still small voice inside of you that tells you to do. It is a higher power & knowledge than what most people possess. It is how God works through people to inspire them to do great things. It's all about integrity & presenting a message irregardless of what people think of you or say to you. THE MESSAGE MUST BE DELIVERED for the benefit of those that need to hear it. Actually that's one of the signs of a true prophet. You tell it like it is, according to the inspiration received, without any regard to other people's feelings. Do you think the people of Ninevah liked it when Jonah told them that they were evil & needed to repent & if they didn't, their City was going to be destroyed? I'm sure he was called many slanderous things, maybe even a swaddling Duck too, & even worse. Remember he feared for his life & didn't want to preach to the City when he was commanded to do it. God punished him by a great fish swallowing him up & this gave him time to ponder things & develop the courage to go to Ninevah to present the hard to deliver message. That story had a good ending though. The people repented, so God's justice was stayed & they weren't destroyed. Prophets are generally not popular people & throughout history, they have been stoned, spit upon, thrown out, killed, and pretty much, rejected by the masses. I guess the ironic thing or funny thing was that Jonah was mad when God spared the City.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Big difference between Jonah and Kurt.

Jonah was delivering the message of God.


Kurt was delivering the message of Kurt.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "I will continue to post to fight the good fight but I must not waste time on swine. My Father told me so. And His will is my only concern."

It's so nice to know that you think I'm a pig, but you will pray for the pig anyway. How sweet.
How funny, My God tells me that He is patient towards his people & never gives up on them like you do. So I'm not worth even an hour of your time or an hour of response to my questions, huh? & your god thinks the same way? He won't even spend an hour of His time to save me from the error of my ways? Hmmmmmm.

Even I show more patience with people than that & give people more time & chance to repent than that. Not sure I like your god too much. He is a hard taskmaster & unforgiving & unmerciful & quite impatient. Well, continue to do his will. I'm sure you will get the just reward of the master that you so faithfully serve. I will pray for you too. I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Kurt was just upset because Scott's wife and son posted some of the most powerful stuff on this blog.

It is the way Truth trumps lies. Kurt had to resort to slime.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel shared

"I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE."

Thanks again. You make my job easy. Excellent fruit.

neodemes said...

Well, Kurt may be truly God inspired and chosen to break the backs of the bankers.

I'm not in a position to say, with certainty, otherwise.

Having said that, I believe that the only one inspiring Kurt to do and say the things he does, is Kurt.

Please let me know when his prophecies start coming to fulfillment.

I'll wait.

mogel said...

FRUIT SAID: Thank you for showing everyone how doreanites try to spin even the worst behaviors by Kurt."

Make up your mind people. Am I a spider that spins, or a duck that waddles or a pig that is so selfish, I deserve no time of concern? Do I look like a spider or a duck or a pig?

So if everyone knows the worst behaviour of Kurt & many STILL esteem him highly, I would say that's a fine tribute to him. I think Fruit, maybe even you could agree with that.

I don't even know the worst about you, and I disliked you from the start, but I'll still pray that you get what you deserve. Hopefully you'll do the same for me?

Have you ever met people or felt of their Spirit & you just have a feeling that you know you can't get along with them no matter what you do or say? Why is that?

dgwondering said...

Byron, you still have a temple recommend?

you will know them by their fruit said...

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

neodemes said...

"Have you ever met people or felt of their Spirit & you just have a feeling that you know you can't get along with them no matter what you do or say? Why is that?"

Pheromones.

I personally think that the high divorce rate can be partly attributed by the use of perfumes and colognes, masking pheromones and resulting in mismatches.

"Do I look like a spider or a duck or a pig?"

Can't say, never seen you. Post a pic in your profile and we'll let you know.

;-)

Justice7777777 said...

Mogel said "Do I look like a spider or a duck or a pig?"

Evidently to the ladies the answer is yes, yes, and yes.

(sorry fruit I couldn't pass it up)

mogel said...

fRUIT SAID: "I must not waste time on swine. My Father told me so. And His will is my only concern."


I think the scripture says: "Do not cast your pearls before Swine."

The Bible doesn't say, don't WASTE your time with sinners. We're all sinners. We all need plenty of time to repent. Maybe you've forgotten from your Bible study, that Jesus spent alot of his time with publicans, harlots & sinners, tax collectors, & pretty much the downtrodden of the earth.

It's OK to call me a Pig, but it's not OK for Willie & the like to call names? Hmmmmmm. I guess that is another license that you possess. You're a lady of many talents & licenses. How did you become who you are anyway. If a book ever is published about you, I'm wanting to read it. Let me know who the publisher is, OK?

you will know them by their fruit said...

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Try to keep up.

mogel said...

Nemo asked: "Your wording made it sound like the prophecy had already come true, else why would it show that he has a gift for prophecy???"

I would bet you that if you knew the truth---you would know too that Evil X's life & outlook on life is pretty depressing right now & has been for a long while. The prophecy was that whatever she put her hand to, she wouldn't succeed at & that things would not get better for her, financially & spiritually. Don't you remember when she posted how bad things were for her as if she was looking for support & public sympathy from this forum? I guess you've forgotten about that Nemo.

Evil X knows if Kurt is right on his private message & if the things said are true deep down in her heart. The prophecy was mostly meant for Evil X, but is also a sign that Kurt's heart is in the right place concerning his mission.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

mogel said...

Justice said: "Not even one date"

Didn't Kurt give a date to Fruit? You want more?

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

mogel said...

I know there are 12 tribes, but only 10 tribes need to be RESTORED. Readng comprehension is the key here.

neodemes said...

I have no way of knowing if username evilex (sp) was even really Scott's wife.

Sometime back, someone registered at my forum as Laura (I think) Heineman and I deleted it, because I assumed it was a hoax and wasn't in the mood for whatever flack might arise from it.

Perhaps I was hasty. I'll never know, I guess.

"Private Message" on this blog probably wasn't the best title for a public flagellation. It really didn't sound like a "right-hearted" thing to do, to me.

mogel said...

DG Wondering: So you are LDS? LOL

mogel said...

DG Wondering: So are you my Bishop now? YOu want to get personal with me? LOL

Justice7777777 said...

Ah

"Not even a date"

I meant as in courting, courtship . . . you know movie and a dinner kinda thing.

Sorry dude. Not ytying to be funny now. How sad.

mogel said...

Fruit said: Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-

You forgot to add, "but don't give them an hour of your time to answer sincere questions if they are a pig."

mogel said...

Fruit said: Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Try to keep up.
______________________________

As far as keeping up, that command was given by Christ personally to the 12 apostles SPECIFICALLY whom were entrusted with a special calling of missionary work among other things. If you have literally thought that this command & gift & job belongs to you, "to shake the dust off your feet" to unbelievers like me, whom you have alleged is true, you ARE VERY SADLY MISTAKEN. You know what happens when you take the mantle of authority or assume you have that authority upon yourself that has NOT been given to you? I can think of one story in the Bible? You want to tell it? Do you even know what that means, "shaking the dust" off your feet MEANS? I await your response.

So in other words, you will pray for me, but secretly you have cursed me? LOL

You're a piece of work, Fruit. You're right, by their fruits, ye shall know them.

So you DO CLAIM to be a prophetess or apostle AFTER ALL? i WONDER IF THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH GOD'S WILL, NO OFFENSE INTENDED.

mogel said...

Fruit: Are you insinuating that I have mistreated you? Gee, I'm sorry, I thought I was just giving you what you deserved, being the just person that I am. I love & respect people that give that quality back to me. I'm glad that you can find it in your heart to forgive me, that's very Christian of you! I guess the difficult question is, can you forgive me for being a pig?

I thought maybe you could appreciate that fruit of mine...I guess not though. Justice is a concept far above your head I guess.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel,

Your arguments are so flimsy what am I supposed to respond to? Your thoughts are a convoluted mess.

__________________________________

Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

mogel said...

Nemo said; "I personally think that the high divorce rate can be partly attributed by the use of perfumes and colognes, masking pheromones and resulting in mismatches."

So potion number 99 doesn't make everyone fall in love with you? It's not a conspiracy is it, the perfume industry trying to attck the family fabric of American society? Are you suggesting I don't use colognes?

mogel said...

Fruit: Stop playing games. I have presented several question, Kurt has presented several questions that you still fail to answer & give full disclosure. It isn't becoming of a true Christian to play this "holier than thou game" that you have perfected to an art form. If that's too much work for you, here is one question of importance, " are you a prophetess sent by God"?

mogel said...

Fruit said: "Crooks are everywhere. Your crooked approach to remedy the crooks in banking is clearly not of Christ."

How interesting that you see & admit that the bankers are crooks in your statement above. Yet you still defend them by putting down Kurt's sincere effort to bring justice due to the crooks of the banks for the clients. In other words, you really don't care about the Dorean clients after all, otherwise you wouldn't defend the "bad guys". It's all been a ruse by you apparently, this pretended mask of caring about the clients & talking about promises unkept. Shame on you.

you will know them by their fruit said...
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you will know them by their fruit said...

My job is simple. I am here to make sure you, Kurt, and the others don't mislead people.

Luckily for me your own words reveal the truth. It is clear to any person who chooses to see that Christ is not in you, Kurt, or Dorean.

While you guys want money, I want to do the will of my Lord. And He wants people saved.

While the government and authorities will reveal your fraud, I am here to reveal dorean as wolves in sheep’s clothing. You guys chose to bring in a godly claim into your money making scam. So just like the money changers in the temple--the tables have been turned.

To God it is eternal life that is at stake, for Dorean it is money.

I'll do God's bidding, you choose for yourself.

Your fruit reveals you!

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Mogel:

I will pray that you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE.


Christ:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

You will know them by their fruit.

mogel said...

DG Wondering: YOu want to get personal with me, by asking personal questons, but you won't even tell me your real name?

You're about as funny & hypocritical as Fruit, maybe more so, I dare to say.

oksurewhynot said...

Did you hear that someone predicted testicular cancer for Kurt?

provb1022 said...

"I don't know much bible but I think I know more than that proverbs guy. He is a walking contradiction. I think he had three fights with himself, losing all three times." Thanks Justice I'm still laughing. Want to take me on. Go for it. Any particular Theological persaution?

Mogel says, "OH REALLY? SOMETHING TELLS ME WHO YOU THINK IS A HE IS A SHE."

Mogel... You got the wrong burning in your bosom. I'm male. That's the trouble with the subjective, selective part of your HS theology. Hit and miss. It's one reason why I do not believe in the HS trump card. Your HS trumps my HS or vise versa to justify anything I want. If He doesn't agree with the Word of God i.e. Scripture, truth (not the book of Mormon) it's not of God. Otherwise I like you.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "My job is simple. I am here to make sure you, Kurt, and the others don't mislead people.

KURT'S JOB IS NOT SIMPLE & NEVER HAS BEEN. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN DOREAN WAS FORMED IN THE BEGINNING? SHOULDN'T YOUR JOB INCLUDED WARNING PEOPLE FROM THE START? OR MAYBE YOUR god WAS ASLEEP ON THE JOB, YOU THINK? WHAT PURPOSE DO YOU SERVE BECAUSE ALL BETS ARE ALREADY ON THE TABLE & NO MORE MONEY CAN BE BET & NO BETS CAN BE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE. WE WILL SEE HOW THE CARDS PLAY OUT SOON ENOUGH & WHO HAS THE BEST HAND. IN SUCH A SCENARIO, I DON'T SEE YOUR NEED TO DO ANY BIDDING.
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Luckily for me your own words reveal the truth. It is clear to any person who chooses to see that Christ is not in you, Kurt, or Dorean.

SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERTAND YOU. YOU WERE SENT HERE BY A god TO REVEAL THE TRUTH, BUT IN ALL ACTUALITY, YOUR PRESENCE IS NOT NEEDED HERE & YOUR WORDS ARE NOT NEEDED BECAUSE I DID YOUR WORK FOR YOU THROUGH MY OWN WORDS THAT AUTOMATICALLY REVEALS THE TRUTH THAT I AM A DEVIL? DOESN'T THIS MEAN YOU god IS NOT ALL KNOWING? HE SENT YOU TO DO A JOB BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT I COULD DO YOUR JOB FOR YOU & THAT YOU WREN'T IN FACT NEEDED. CERTAINLY NOT A god I WOULD FEAR. THAT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS DION WARWICK STARTING HER "PSYCHIC NETWORK" BUSINESS, YET DIDN'T HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO KNOW THAT HER BUSINESS ENTERPRISE WAS GOING TO GO BANKRUPT DOWN THE ROAD WITHIN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. LOL Yea, I want to call her & get my palm read. Dear Dion Warwick, will Dorean pay out great riches? LOL

AND I DON'T GET ANY THANKS OR MONEY FROM YOU OR YOUR god FOR DOING YOUR SIMPLE JOB FOR YOU? IS MY LABOR WORTH NOTHING TO YOU or your god? LOL KIND OF AN UNGRATEFUL STINGY god YOU WORSHIP, DON'T YOU THINK? And you call Kurt a money monger? Your god is so tight he squeaks when he walks. COULDN'T YOUR god FIND SOMEONE MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU TO REVEAL THE WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING? ARE YOU THE BEST THAT YOUR god COULD FIND? FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BOWING DOWN TO YOUR god, DUE TO HIS LACK OF FORESIGHT, KNOWLEDGE OR POWER.
________________________________

While you guys want money, I want to do the will of my Lord. And He wants people saved.
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NO DOREAN WANTS JUSTICE, NOT MONEY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY JUSTICE COSTS MONEY. I THINK CHRIST IS FOR JUSTICE ALWAYS & TO DEAL WITH OUT FELLOW MEN IN A JUST WAY & SEEK JUSTICE IS ALWAYS HIS WILL, BUT YOU ARE THE BLIND ONE THAT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. SURE CHRIST WANTS PEOPLE SAVED, BUT YOU CAN'T BE SAVED IN IGNORANCE SWEETY. THE CHRIST I WORSHIP SAID; "AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH & THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE." HOW FREE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN DEBT UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS & THEIR FAMILIES BREAK APART BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY FOR THE NECESSITIES OF LIFE & DON'T HAVE A HOME TO LIVE IN?
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While the government and authorities will reveal your fraud, I am here to reveal dorean as wolves in sheep’s clothing. You guys chose to bring in a godly claim into your money making scam. So just like the money changers in the temple--the tables have been turned.
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SWEETIE PIE, IF THE GOVERNMENT REVEALS DOREAN'S FRAUD, DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU ARE NEEDED AT ALL? AND WHAT DOES THAT ACCOMPLISH THIS WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING REVEALING IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT DOREAN HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE GOVERNMENT FOR SOME TIME NOW? IF IT IS A GIVEN THAT DOREAN IS A SCAM & THE COURTS WILL CONVICT, ISN'T IT A MOOT POINT SHOWING KURT IS A WOLF INSTEAD OF A MEEK LAMB? WON'T PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT ANYWAY WITHOUT YOU BY THE COURT JUDGMENT DECREE THAT YOU ARE SO SURE WILL HAPPEN? YOU MUST THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY STUPID? And by the way it's a "Godly claim" with a capitalized G. No, it's not just like the moneychangers in the temple with the tables being turned. You see Christ did that. Christ did not give the misfortunes that they face to Dorean. You are so screwed up. Your use of the scriptures & the examples that you give are an abomination to Him & HIS WILL. I'm sure all Dorean clients that have lost their homes are even more comforted now to know that God has punished them for being clients & that you, the Prophetess has so declared that. I'm glad you are here still providing HOPE, & faith to the one's that need it the most.
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To God it is eternal life that is at stake, for Dorean it is money.
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SO ALL DOREANITES ARE SELFISH PIGS TOO & DON'T CARE ABOUT SPIRITUAL THINGS TOO? SO ALL DOREANITES DON'T GO TO HEAVEN NOW & WE'RE ALL LOST WOLVES? NEMO, PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE. YOUR INPUT IS REQUESTED ON THIS PAINTING BRUSH OF HERS. SHE HAS A PAINTING BRUSH THAT IS GETTING PRETTY BIG. I DON'T LIKE THE PICTURE SHE IS PAINTING NOR THE BRUSH THAT SHE IS USING. SO YOU BELIEVE MONEY CAN'T DO GOOD THINGS? KEEP SPREADING THE CHRISTMAS CHEER.
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I'll do God's bidding, you choose for yourself.
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DIDN'T YOU ALREADY SAY THAT YOU WEREN'T NEEDED BECAUSE I ALREADY DID YOUR JOB FOR YOU? YOU DO REALIZE THAT IF YOU ARE WRONG, THAT YOU HAVE OFFENDED GOD BY ASSUMING, PRETENDING, OR BELIEVING YOU HAVE HIS POWER OF ATTORNEY TO DO HIS BIDDING YOU PRESUPPOSE IS YOUR MISSION? HOW WERE YOU CALLED TO THIS WORK, BY VISION, PERSONAL VISITATION, REVELATION, DREAM, HEARTBURN, OR WHAT? YOU DO REALIZE IF YOU ARE WRONG THAT IN FACT YOU HAVE "USED HIS NAME IN VAIN," & HAVE PURPOSELY DECEIVED PEOPLE WITH NO AUTHORITY, & THIS CARRIES SERIOUS SPIRITUAL CONSEQUENCES, DO YOU NOT? ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THOSE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU ARE FOUND OUT TO BE WRONG? REMEMBER THE GUY IN TEH BIBLE THAT TRIED TO STEADY THE ARC OF THE COVENANT & DIDN'T HAVE THAT RECOGNIZED RIGHT? WHAT DID GOD DO? HE STRUCK HIM DOWN & TOOK HIS LIFE, DID HE NOT? THAT'S HOW ANGRY GOD CAN GET IF SOMEONE TAKES UPON A JOB OR MISSION OR PRETENDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT GOD HAS NOT AUTHORIZED WHEN SACRED THINGS ARE INVOLVED. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU THAT YOU WILL SEE THINGS MORE CLEARLY & BE CAUTIOUS NOT TO ASSUME MORE AUTHORITY THAN YOU HAVE, ESPECIALLY IF IT ISN'T HIS WILL.
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Your fruit reveals you!

I HAVE NEVER DENIED THAT & THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON, THAT YOU CAN KNOW PEOPLE BY THEIR FRUITS, BUT YOU HAVE NO QUALIFICATIONS OR SPIRIT OR KNOWLEDGE & USE THE WRONG STANDARDS TO DETERMINE HIS WILL OR BE A FRUIT INSPECTOR. YOU'RE IMPERSONATING A FRUIT INSPECTOR.
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mogel said...

OK Sure Why Not, SAID: "Did you hear that someone predicted testicular cancer for Kurt?"

It wasn't the same person & doctor that affirmed your retarded mental capacity and your AIDS diagnosis was it? I heard that doctor is practicing without a license. Maybe he should be turned into the AMA to protect the general public.

mogel said...

Prov 10:22: Actually I'm surprised. You have never been controversial or offensive or let your testosterone disrupt your cool demeanor, so in a strange way, I was paying you a compliment. I just assumed your mellowness was becaue you were female. Sorry, my mistake. I've enjoyed your comments by the way. I find you to be very sincere & informed & have appreciated what you have said.

mogel said...

Down But Not Out said: "OT prophesy strictly states that if the Messiah breaks the Torah, or causes it to be null, he can not be the true Savior."

I've heard that....where exactly does it state that in the OT?

Do you believe the New Jerusalem will be built in Jerusalem or where and what is your basis for thinking that way? Are you Jewish?

Of course I agree with you that all Jews DIDN'T reject the Messiah, but before his death, many that originally believed on Him did turn away. Does it not seem strange to you that the majority wanted HIM to be put to death, His chosen people? After all, they did free Barabus & the Jewish people had a choice & voted & the majority didn't have any support for Jesus of Nazareth, so he was in fact crucified. The majority vote could have changed that. He was very unpopular in his last days of life as far as the Jews saw him.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "It is clear to any person who chooses to see that Christ is not in you, Kurt, or Dorean."

ANY PERSON? CLEAR? AREN'T YOU ASSUMING QUITE A BIT? SO YOU NOW SPEAK FOR EVERYONE? ON THE CONTRARY, I BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY SINCERE PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG WHO CHOOSE TO SEE CLEARLY THAT DON'T BUY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? WHY WOULD PEOPLE NOT CHOOSE TO SEE WHO ALREADY HAVE AN INVESTED OR VESTED INTEREST TO SEE THAT DOREAN SUCCEEDS? DO YOU THINK KURT IS BLINDING HIMSELF PURPOSELY AS HE PREPARES FOR COURT?

IF YOU TRULY CARE ABOUT A CAUSE, WHY WOULD YOU PURPOSELY CHOOSE TO SHUT YOUR EYES TO ALL THINGS AROUND YOU THAT AFFECT THE CAUSE YOU LOVE? IS THAT LIKE CUTTING YOUR NOSE OFF TO SPITE YOUR FACE?

mogel said...

FRUIT SAID: "Your arguments are so flimsy what am I supposed to respond to? Your thoughts are a convoluted mess."

YOU DON'T SEE THE MESSES IN YOUR LOGIC OR YOUR THOUGHTS? SO YOU ARE REFUSING TO SEE, THE SAME THINGS YOU ACCUSE THE DOREANITES OF, OR HAVE YOU JUST NOT READ MY COMPLETE REPONSES? PLEASE SPECIFICALLY EXPLAIN THE INCORRECTNESS OF MY "CONVULUTED MESS" OR CONFUSION. IT SHOULD BE EASY FOR YOU THEN, AFTER ALL, YOUR JOB IS SIMPLE. KURT'S QUESTIONS WERE VERY CLEAR, VERY SIMPLE, NOT CONFUSING AT ALL. YOU DIDIN'T RESPOND TO HIS EITHER. AFRAID TO? YOU DON'T CHOOSE TO RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS OR MY RESPONSES. YOU LOSE BY DEFAULT THEN. A WIN IS A WIN, EVEN IF IT'S BY YOUR DEFAULT. THAT WON'T FULFILL YOUR MISSION YOU KNOW. AFTER ALL, YOU ARE HERE TO PROVE THAT WE ARE WOLVES.... OR IS IT THAT YOU WON'T RESPOND BECAUSE I'M A PIG AND YOUR god told you not to respond? I WISH YOU WOULD MAKE UP YOUR MIND EXACTLY on this issue & WHAT YOU MISSION IS & HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO ACCOMPLISH IT & WHAT BASIS your god HAS INSTRUCTED YOU to fulfill your mission. YOU ARE THE ENIGMA. IT'S NOT FAIR TO MAKE JUDGMENTS OF MY FLIMSY ARGUMENTS WHEN YOU SAY NOTHING ABOUT THEM & DON'T RESPOND YOU KNOW.

mogel said...

agency by estoppel
: an agency that is not created (nothing formally signed between Scott H. & lender) as an actual agency by a principal (lender)and an agent (Scott H.) but that is imposed by law when a principal (lender) acts in such a way (silence by default to the Dorean presentment) as to lead a third party (Dorean client) to reasonably believe that another (Scott H.) is the principal's (lender's) agent and the third party (Dorean client) is injured by relying on and acting in accordance with that belief.. (client injured when bank foreclosed after the discharge done by Scott H.)


Note: A principal (lender) has a duty to correct (answer dorean's presentment) a third party's mistaken belief (Dorean client's belief that the lender is the creditor) in an agent's authority (Scott H.) to act on the principal's (lender's) behalf. If the principal (lender) could have corrected the misunderstanding (was in fact given the legal time to do so) but failed to do so, he or she (lender) is estopped from denying the existence of the agency and is bound by the agent's (Scott H.) acts in dealing with the third party (Dorean client).

On the contrary Nemo, it's an open & shut case & a clear legal victory for Dorean on this issue. Dorean's discharges of mortgages must stand & the lender can't do anything about it. Therefore, there is no fraud, according to the law & no false documents were recorded by taking Title. Alleged fraud is a joke. The law is clear.


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WillToFight said...

Fruit Cake said...

My job is simple. I am here to make sure you, Kurt, and the others don't mislead people.
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A self proclaimed savior! Wow!

I think it has been said many times here. We don't want any!

Take your selfrighteous, selfappointed B.S. to someplace that ask!

It is just unbelievable how you idiots stay here attempting to force a negative conclusion to an issue not yet settled.

Again you naysayers sound like Fascist from the dark ages. Fruit is obviously a Jerry Falwell lacky!

You post all these verses from the bible, I can not believe that you live by them. If you did, you would be infront of the white house taking on the real criminals and frauds in this society.

Again, I don't understand where you people think we do not deserve a voice to question validity of this issue!

Well I guess I do understand that your fascist in attitude. Be careful what you ask for......

WillToFight said...

Neodemes = A dictatorial person!

Fruit Cake = A dictatorial person!

Justass666 = follower of a dictatorial person!

provb1022 said...

Mogel says Prov 10:22: Actually I'm surprised. You have never been controversial or offensive or let your testosterone disrupt your cool demeanor, so in a strange way, I was paying you a compliment. I just assumed your mellowness was becaue you were female. Sorry, my mistake. I've enjoyed your comments by the way. I find you to be very sincere & informed & have appreciated what you have said.

The burning in my bosom told me you were paying me a compliment. I appriciate that. I find you to be very sincere and VERY informed and have appreciated what you have said also. I really enjoyed your last posts to fruit lol lad (laugh all day).. its odd but I think we (the fruit and I are of the same background) (burning in my boson again) but don't find the same sincerity for truth that I see in you. Got to run see you later MOOG.

neodemes said...

but that is imposed by law when a principal (lender) acts in such a way (silence by default to the Dorean presentment) as to lead a third party (Dorean client) to reasonably believe that another (Scott H.) is the principal's (lender's) agent

I think you will find that the courts aren't going to support the contention that the banks had to give any credence to the presentment package. Thus, your case has no basis.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

neodemes said...

"Again, I don't understand where you people think we do not deserve a voice to question validity of this issue!"

Is anyone trying to silence you?

I'm not.

Give me the same courtesy, please.

I don't dictate to anyone. I just express my opinions.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "I think you will find that the courts aren't going to support the contention that the banks had to give any credence to the presentment package. Thus, your case has no basis."

If that is the best that the Court or opposing attorney can come up with, I feel real comfortable with the "agency by estoppel" doctrine as justification for taking legal title from the lender & defending the fraud charge. I think a person can easily run over your contention though & show that it isn't a valid defense by the lender that justifies ignoring the serious issues of the presentment.

GREAT AUNTIE said...

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GREAT AUNTIE said...

I wish you would all speak english!!

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