Wednesday, May 31, 2006

Would you trust a snake that bit you (5/12/06)

The antitoxins to the poisonous snakebite is of the same nature. In fact it is a poison to the poison. In math 2 negatives make a positive. The mortgage poison has certain relationships. First there is an asset introduced called a note. Then an agency relationship is created by its transfer. (Not title only possession) Generally some mortgage broker but can include a bank employee. He then creates a trust by deposit with a 3rd party. Now the poison seeps into the bite they just took out of you. The broker agent in his dual capacity conspires with one side to enrich himself and conflicts with your interest. Non-disclosure hides the deposit and successful funding of your financial asset. He now seeks a pledge of property (real-estate) to further enhance his self-enrichment and the assets of his co-conspirator. After pledge also known as a chose-in-action a servicing fee is the next booty. Legal title is then moved to the creditor and equitable title remains vested with the debtor in possession. Of course this is all presumed and not factual. Do you really think it was an accident that Dorean used the same toxins to cure the bite. We used a trust / fiduciary relationship, title change, chose-in-action, pledge and agency. Even Carm Kidd could recognize the fruit from this tree of knowledge of good and evil. The serpentine path had many turns but only one goal.

40 comments:

Illusions No More said...

Kurt,

Your dad has been out of contact for almost 3 weeks... can you tell us what is wrong???? We are all worried.

thank you & Scott for your diligence and stawlwartness (sp)!!

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you will know them by their fruit said...

As spoken by the mighty prophet Kurt to his cult:

It’s time to Peel the Fruit (5/18/06)
Fruit was a broker/agent for Mortgage Alternatives a known fraud. They took money for years and did nothing. She then sought that relationship with us but would not participate in training. She is not a client but supplied a few of her old MA clients. This is honorable to seek a remedy for those you’ve hurt even if no intent was present. What was not honorable was to charge those clients a premium above our fee to help them. What do you call that? Profiting from fraud, taking money, or just compensation? Never in an entire year has she let out her dirty little secret. Oh yes you can remove the splinter in my flesh as soon as you remove the log in your eye. MA is not being prosecuted because they did nothing and never will. People can be ripped off and government doesn’t care. That is status quo, but upset the status quo and you are a target. Dorean is a target because we did something not nothing. Your clients also talked with us many times about how you lied to them and that they didn’t trust you. Perhaps one of them would be kind enough to expose you for what you are. Don’t give me your Christian crap. Christ Kingdom is an honest one. You should change your name to they will know me by my peel. You repent and help us help your clients or piss-off. Your voice is a fraud!

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I don't know who this lady is but I know it isn't me. How do you folks fall for someone who is so evil? Why would you let this blind man lead you?


YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT

you will know them by their fruit said...

Sorry if I was gloating a few posts back.

Sometimes God lets us enjoy a taste of the victory to come.

God is good . . . all the time.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Fruity I don't read your shit anymore! Zoooommmm I skip over the ramblings of an idiot.

habakkuk said...

I havnt spoken to dr. fred in about a month but i know we just got back our bank resolution minute from him a little over a week ago.

Solvo said...

Illusions No More said...
Kurt,

Your dad has been out of contact for almost 3 weeks... can you tell us what is wrong???? We are all worried.

thank you & Scott for your diligence and stawlwartness (sp)!!

Don't fret, Dr. Fred will be back in touch and returning phone calls by the end of this week or early next week.

If next week comes, and he is still not available, I will update, but expect him to be back up and about by Friday

mogel said...

Fruit said: "I don't know who this lady is but I know it isn't me. How do you folks fall for someone who is so evil? Why would you let this blind man lead you?"

THEN WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? WHAT IS YOUR FULL NAME? I AWAIT PATIENTLY FOR YOUR ANSWER. YOU KNOW KURT'S FULL NAME, WHAT IS YOURS?

mogel said...

Is Kurt suggesting that "Fruit" IS Carmella Kidd? Say it isn't so. hMMMMMMMMMMMM..................

mogel said...

No, I wouldn't trust a snake that bit me, however, I might shoot it though.

jbenda said...

I hope Fruit isn't Sara Jane Magoon! The other biggest crook I know!

mogel said...

A good detective makes a list of the things that THEY DO KNOW & THEY GO FROM THERE. WHAT DO WE PROBABLY KNOW:

1. Fruit is female
2. Fruit is misled
3. Fruit has an ax to grind
4. Fruit is a religious fanatic
5. Fruit doesn't have the Spirit
6. Fruit knows that lenders commit fraud
7. Fruit doesn't fully disclose her intentions or her purpose
8. Fruit could be Carmella Kidd, the former number 2 person with that fraudlent company that promised perfect credit through a Federal Trade Commission dispute using an Advocate Person. Help me people, what was the name of that company? They also claimed debt elimination. The name of the company escapes me now. I'll think of it later, I'm sure. The head of the company was a Black man from Texas. She left the company because she claimed it was a fraudulent company & that they never helped any of her clients, THAT THE BLACK MAN WAS A CROOK & the head of the company NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING. Sound familiar? It wasn't Mortgage Alternatives, another scam company, although she probably was affiliated with them too. Oh, I remember the name of the company now: "JONAH" named after an Old Testament prophet. BOY, I SURE HOPE IT ISN'T CARMELLA KIDD, FROM FLORIDA BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T KNOW ORANGES FROM APPLES IF SHE IS MASQUERADING AS A FRUIT INSPECTOR.
"JONAH" WAS ANOTHER SCAM COMPANY & CARMELLA KIDD WAS THEIR MARKETING DIRECTOR FOR A LONG TIME.

mogel said...

Someone said: "I hope Fruit isn't Sara Jane Magoon! The other biggest crook I know!"

rollerhockey said...

I have hear of a company called watchman ministries that use the F.T.C. to clear debt on credit cards and one of the agents sounds like the guy in Texas you are talking about...

mogel said...

Nope, it can't be Sarah Jane Magoon as the Fruit Inspector, because the Fruit Inspector is NOT a Dorean client; Sarah obviously is a Dorean client being a Dorean Broker, no less one under indictment, not that an indictment means anything.

mogel said...

Roller Hockey said: "I have hear of a company called watchman ministries that use the F.T.C. to clear debt on credit cards and one of the agents sounds like the guy in Texas you are talking about..."

I UNDERSTAND THAT WATCHMAN MINISTRIES DON'T USE THE SERVICES OF "JONAH" ANYMORE. THEY CLAIMED THAT HIS SERVICES WERE POOR SO THEY MOVED ON TO ANOTHER COMPANY THAT IS USING A SIMILIAR PROCESS OR THE SAME PROCESS. KIND OF IRONICAL IF THE SO CALLED EXPERT IS NOW AN AGENT FOR ANOTHER COMPANY THAT CLAIMS TO BE THE REAL THING. I HAVE THIS BLACK MAN'S REAL NAME WRITTEN DOWN IN MY NOTES, HIS NAME ESCAPES ME RIGHT NOW, BUT AGAIN, IT'S IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. Maybe "JONAH" is an acronym for his real name, SOMEHOW THAT RINGS A BELL.

mogel said...

I listened to a conference call with "Jonah" once just out of curiosity. Someone affiliated with "Watchman Ministires" a so called Christian help organization, also the person being in a top leadership position, was conducting the call. I asked too many questions & I obviously offended the moderator conducting the conference call though not intentionally. He really lost his temper with me & many on the call sensed that too. He obviously embarassed himself publicly. He claimed that his credit was completely wiped clean through the process & that he had a credit score in the high 700's. Can't say I believe him though.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "How do you folks fall for someone who is so evil?"
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HOW CAN SOMEONE FALL FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LICK OF SENSE? IF YOU ARE SO RIGHT, PROVE IT FOR THE TRUTH CAN WITHSTAND ALL & STILL VINDICATE. YOU'VE PROVED NOTHING EXCEPT BEING AN EMBARASSMENT TO YOURSELF. EVIL? WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU LOOKED IN THE MIRROR & TOOK A SERIOUS LOOK?

papa_dont_preach said...

Or, maybe fruit is the dreaded sarahsmum from p-sites? ;-)

Hab, can you say what it was that Dr. Fred did to your Bank Resolution Minutes?

Indeed, today's your day to shine. I'm sure all are waiting in anticipation for your good news, indeed.

WillToFight said...

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habakkuk said...

papa,

all i said was we sent it to his address so he could have it signed and notarized....It was sent back fairly quick....so he must be alive and well.

papa_dont_preach said...

Hab, I knew what you said, I was just after what Dr. Fred actually did for you.

It sounds like he actually got the signatures of the trustees?

If that's the case then it sounds like I missed some piece of instruction that said I needed to get the trustees signatures.

Thanks.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "Sorry if I was gloating a few posts back."

LET'S SEE!!! YOU HAVE CLIENTS IN OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HAVEN'T HAD THEIR PROMISES FULFILLED BY OTHER PROGRAMS, SO IF YOU ARE ACTING IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS THAN YOU WOULD WANT KURT TO SUCCEED, WOULD YOU NOT? IF NOT, THEN, YOU DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR CLIENTS. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. IF THAT IS THE CASE THAN YOUR GLOATING IS MERELY SELFISH & AGAINST THE BEST INTERESTS OF YOUR CLIENTS. EVEN NEMO, YOUR HERO, SAYS YOU ARE DOING A FINE JOB BY YOUR POSTS, HOWEVER, EVEN NEMO WANTS DOREAN TO SUCCEED DUE TO THE CLIENTS BEST INTERESTS. ARE YOU ONE NOTCH LOWER THAN HE? IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN YOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR NARCISSISTIC TENDENCIES ONCE AGAIN. NARCISSISM IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH GOD'S NATURE & HIS WILL, AN OBVIOUS FRUIT THAT EVEN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF SEEING. SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE SORRY, ARE YOU SORRY FOR BEING NARCISSISTIC OR ARE YOU SORRY THAT YOUR CLIENTS WON'T GET THEIR PROMISES FULFILLED DUE TO THE TASTE THAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED? WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC CAUSE OF YOUR SORROW THAT YOU FEEL A NEED TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS? I'M NOT TRYING TO TWIST ANYTHING, I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE FACTS.

mogel said...

"Or, maybe fruit is the dreaded sarahsmum from p-sites?" ;-)

I DON'T BELIEVE I EVER REMEMBER "SARAH'S MOM" QUOTE SCRIPTURE, SO I DON'T BELIEVE FRUIT IS HER. COURSE, ONE THING THAT THEY BOTH HAVE IN COMMON, IS THAT THEY BOTH HAVE A ONE TRACT MIND, SAYING THE SAME THINGS OVER & OVER AGAIN & SAYING THE SAME THINGS USUALLY IN A VERY ILLOGICAL WAY. COURSE BOTH INDIVIDUALS SUFFER FROM SELF ESTEEM PROBLEMS WHICH CAUSE ONE TO BEHAVE TOWARD THE NARCISSISTIC SIDE THOUGH, SO I CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULD COME TO THAT CONCLUSION. ALSO I COULD SEE THE TWO BECOME BEST FRIENDS TOO IF THEY EVER MET, KIND OF LIKE KINDRED SPIRITS, OR THE LAW OF ATTRACTION, SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS BASED UPON SOME GOOD INFORMATION IN THE VERY LEAST.

whyudothat said...

papa_dont_preach said... Indeed, today's your day to shine. I'm sure all are waiting in anticipation for your good news, indeed.


Times up, Indeed.

speak up or shut up.
how did all those charges getting dropped go today, june 1st?

you will know them by their fruit said...

Mogel--since you are the only one who can't seem to figure this out . . .

I am not or have ever been a broker or client or anything else related to your or anybody's MA scam

I have nothing to do with this other than a couple friends of mine getting robbed by Dorean and Lyle Davies/Peter Kim.

(I tried to type real slow for you Mo).

rollerhockey said...

Hay Mogel I think that guy in Texas was Jay Oneil

rollerhockey said...

Hay Mogel that guy in Texas is Jay Oneal

mogel said...

Yep that's the black man's name.

mogel said...

Fruit: "I have nothing to do with this other than a couple friends of mine getting ROBBED by Dorean and Lyle Davies/Peter Kim"

DOESN'T THE VERBIAGE "ROBBED" DENOTE FORCE OR THE USE OF WEAPONS? WAS YOUR FRIENDS FORCED INTO JOINING THE PROCESS? HAVE YOUR FRIENDS QUITCLAIMED OUT OF THE TRUST? HAVE THEY MADE YOU THEIR REPRESENTATIVE NOW? SO YOU ARE NOT ONLY THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, BUT ALSO CHRIST'S REPRESENTATIVE NOW?

mogel said...

Mogel--since you are the only one who can't seem to figure this out . . .

DIDN'T KURT SUGGEST YOU WANTED TO BE A DOREAN BROKER AT ONE TIME BUT WOULDN'T COME TO TRAINING. IS HE ALSO CONFUSED OR MISTAKEN? IF HE IS CONFUSED OR MISTAKEN, THEN ISN'T IT REASONABLE TO CONCLUDE THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T FIGURE THIS OUT?

I am not or have ever been a broker or client or anything else related to your or anybody's MA scam

OK, SO THAT THAT IS YOUR STORY & YOU ARE STICKING TO IT.

Fruit said: "I have nothing to do with this other than a couple friends of mine getting robbed by Dorean and Lyle Davies/Peter Kim."

I THINK LYLE DAVIES & PETER KIM SHOULD VOICE THEIR VIEWS HERE JUST TO SEE IF THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH YOURS. I DON'T KNOW THEM. I ASSUME THAT THEY ARE DISSATISFIED CLIENTS WHO ARE IMPATIENT WITH SEEING THINGS THROUGH. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS? I THINK YOU HAVE ALOT TO DO WITH THIS AS LONG AS YOU VOICE YOUR OPINIONS.

(I tried to type real slow for you Mo).

AND THAT ACCOMPLISHES WHAT? POSSIBLY A LONGER TIME TO EXPRESS YOURSELF?

neodemes said...

mogel said...

Yep that's the black man's name.
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And race relates this this, how, moogie?

mogel said...

I offered no correlation whatsoever, Nemo. I couldn't remember his name. I only could remember he was black. Is that OK, my friend & watcher from the NAACP, protector of all minorities such as Dorean victims, & prey alike? Maybe you would like to offer a correlation or conclusion. You are pretty good at that.

mogel said...

Nemo: I'm sure if I said he was a white caucasion American with a bald head, my statement would have gone un-noticed, would it not? Why is that?

neodemes said...

mogel said...

Nemo: I'm sure if I said he was a white caucasion American with a bald head, my statement would have gone un-noticed, would it not? Why is that?

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oh, you must be referring to Son of Dale

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