Tuesday, June 13, 2006

The 13th

I’ve written this in advance so the reports will verify my hopes. 13 has always been an important number in my life. It is normally associated with bad luck because it is a number synonymous with sin in the Scriptures. I’ve liked the number especially since my studies on the Tribe of Manasseh the 13th tribe of Israel. This tribe became the United States and it is no accident 13 was the number of this Country. I wore this number in softball for 20 years. I don’t view it as lucky but evidence that God keeps His promises. I’m feeling optimistic that the thirteenth will reveal God’s promises. This is not a prophecy as fruitty would declare but a hope that some advantage would be obtained. I’m praying for wisdom in the face to face battles for I’m certain that paper can be twisted by these people at any time. All the contracting really happens here. We have been given some great tactics I’m certain they’re not expecting. Maybe if we keep poking this beast we’ll find that one spot that reveals its nature. These guys are good, pros at this game I’m glad most of you can avoid this. It really is disheartening when you see these ministers of justice having no respect for Christ who called this country into existence as part of the promise to Manasseh thousands of years ago. Such great promise treated with contempt. Lawlessness being sold as the law. Fruitty, Christ’s great champion warrior can ignore this insult to God because she is called to fight two men in jail who by all her wisdom and experience don’t have a circumstantial chance. With faith like this a mustard seed must be gigantic. 13 is my shoe size and what I must use to walk through this battle to God’s promises.

43 comments:

you will know them by their fruit said...

Ah . . . ok.

Spin another fable for the following.

neodemes said...

http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/manasseh.html

tcab247 said...

FRUIT, THERE YOU GO AGIN BEING A ROTTEN FRUIT,TOOTIE FRUIT.

whyudothat said...

so what happened in court on tuesday?

someone
anyone

Justice7777777 said...

It is too bad this blog wasn't up and running when the scam was in its infancy. He would have only gotten a handfull of customers.

What a nut!

On a side note it has been very interesting looking into the criminal mind. I mean you have the stupids--SOP/WILLIE/ etc. But then you have the advanced criminal mind--Kurt. Very fascinating watching how he tries to weave his web (and how some people buy it).

I guess for some if you just say banks are evil you will get a following regardless of how wacky your presentation. "Banks are bad, give me 3k and the refi on your house if you think banks are bad too"

Sign me up!

You poor suckers. Where will you be 30 years from now when Kurt gets out? Still making excuses for your Latvian leader?

I just hope Mogel gets a date. I really do feel bad for you guys. Could you imagine SOP in public--yikes!!!!--better stay behind the keyboard buddy.

But I feel worse for the people who were lied to and robbed by these crooks (this is where doreanites tell us about the evils of banking justifying any and all behaviours--save your keystrokes).

Justice moves slowly but it has been very revealing.

I hope every con-artist is watching Kurt. Just like when people slow down on the freeway after seeing a wreck.

No need to repsond--I stopped reading dorean cult swap a long time ago.

WillToFight said...

Ace this is the Real NESARA!

http://nesara.org/articles/the_real
_nesara.htm

Peanut Gallery said...

whyudothat said,

"so what happened in court on tuesday?"

Probably nothing good, or we would have heard something by now

mogel said...

So according to Nemo's post, Manassah was "the founder of an idolatrous religion". Is the UNITED STATES an idolatrous religion, so to speak?

son of a prophet said...

pg,

c'mon. you know better than that.

christians are to keep His commandments, but we are not under the mosiac law any longer.

there are no atonements for braeaking the law; yeshua was the atonement.

but no one is ssaying that it is ok to not keep the commandments, just that if we were still nder the law, we would make animal saacrifices and for certain laws that we might break, the penalty wold be stoning or worse, death.

well, i guess that they are the same. stoning to death.

mogel said...

Fruit said: "Spin another fable for the following."

COMING FROM THE BLACK WIDOW HERSELF, THAT IS "EXCELLENT IMAGERY." NICE CHOICE OF WORDS, THE WORD "SPIN" YOU UNDERSTAND SO WELL AS THE INSIGNIFICANT INSECT OR PESKY BUG THAT YOU ARE. LIKE THE SANDS AND HOURGLASS OF TIME, THE RED HOUR GLASS ON YOUR STOMACH, THE TELL TELL SIGN THAT YOU ARE POISION, IS RUNNING IT'S LIFE SAND OUT & SOON YOUR FRUIT WILL BE TOTALLY ROTTEN & EATEN UP BY ALL THE CROWS IN THE LAND, ALL PECKING WITHOUT MERCY, THEIR MANY BITES INTO YOUR DEAD AND INSIGNIFICANT CARCASS. THE BUZZARDS WILL COME LATER TO FINISH YOU OFF & AT LAST IN THE END YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED NO MORE AS THE NOTHININGESS YOU WERE IN THE BEGINNING.

JUSTICE 666, DO ME A FAVOR & COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT BEASTLY JOKE TO LAUGH AT & SAVE YOUR PIOUS PITY FOR THOSE THAT TRULY NEED IT.

light1rae said...

I say as always... you’re right NO MORE! As you know Kurt I have been in the lions den like you and have first hand knowledge of what you are going threw.
Everything you have been experiencing is there mode of operation lies on top of lies never getting to the real issues of the case. The system is just plain evil! Thousands of us are praying for you that TRUTH will prevail and you be vindicated.
As for these naysayers that are paid to give misinformation how shall you escape judgement of the TRUTH before your creator. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Exodus 20:16

Peanut Gallery said...

But SOP,
Christians do not keep many of the commandments. They have been mistakingly led to believe they have been done away with. (Sabbath, foods, festivals, etc)

BTW it would be breaking the Torah to sacrifice outside of the temple system(there has been no temple since 80 A.D)

WillToFight said...

It is often said that knowledge is power, but that is one of the greatest myths of all time. Men with great knowledge are easily enslaved if they do nothing to defend their freedom. Knowledge by itself is not power, but it holds the potential for power if we use it as a guide for action. Truth will always be defeated by tyranny unless human beings, just like you and me, are willing to step forward and put our lives into the battle. The future belongs, not to ideas, but to people who act on those ideas.

habakkuk said...

I'd like to address all the men and women of G-d on this blog who have been praying for victory in this case with Kurt and Scott....I'd like to call a special 7 days of prayer. A week of intense prayer for K & S and everyone involved. Starting today. Set aside a disignated block of time to pray for this situation....that our G-d would bring about a closure and release of these innocent men.

I was reminded of a scripture i believe G-d gave me concerncing this. Ezekiel 11:2

.....2Then [the Spirit] said to me, Son of man, these are the men who devise iniquity and give wicked counsel in this city,......

G-d was pointing out to Ezekiel who the wicked men were that were devising schemes on G-d's people. This men were leaders, judges, men of political influence (sound familiar?). But then you read in verse 13 that G-d struck one of them down as an initial sign and warning of His coming judgement on these men.

I hope G-d doesn't have to allow this in this case but i think we can all agree there is an obstruction in the bowels of justice and we need an overdue enema.

So, lets start the cleansing by praying and petitioning Heaven to release a flood of intervention. Not that anyone should die...but that justice would come forth. It is time!!

I encourage all to read Ezekiel 11 and let the Holy Spirit speak to you. If you are a naysayer and don't want to participate then disregard this message.

WillToFight said...

Prayer is good!

Meditation in a positive outcome, seeing the victory is very good as well.

I am in!!!!

whyudothat said...

court
tuesday
someone
anyone
good
or
bad
post

WillToFight said...

US: Court backs government broadband wiretap access. Reuters 2006 June 9

US: Colin Powell says many in government use hypnotic drug with bizarre side effects. News Target 2006 June 8

Alex Jones detained 15 hours on orders of Bilderberg Group. Prison Planet 2006 June 8

Interview of film maker Aaron Russo on his documentary "America--Freedom To Fascism." Google Video Posted 2006 June 8

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: Dead Again. Kurt Nimo 2006 June 8

Marxism grinds Zimbabwe economy into dust. Collectivism always does. Investors 2006 June 7

G. Edward Griffin comments on increasing number of Americans in jail. Free Market News 2006 June 6

US: Lieutenant defies Army over 'illegal and immoral' war. Honolulu Advertiser 2006 June 6

Italian election puts Communists in office. Leninism is alive and well. New American 2006 June 6

Former CIA analyst says Bush Admin may launch phony terrorist strikes against U.S. to justify Iran strike set for June or July. Prison Planet Posted 2006 June 3

Israel warns that Iran may attack World Cup event. Analyst says this may be disinformation to prepare public to accept phony attack as real. Kurt Nimo Posted 2006 June 3

Osama tape appears fake, experts conclude. Yahoo News Posted 2006 June 3

Global warming predates mankind. Investors Posted 2006 June 3

Southern California high school sued for silencing student on issue of illegal immigration. CFP Posted 2006 June 3

US: Fleet of super blimps to spy on every inch of land - to protect against terrorism, of course. Athens News Posted 2006 June 3

Venezuela spending billions on defense against US. Two brands of collectivism vie for dominance. Yahoo News Posted 2006 June 3

WillToFight said...

Court on Tuesday

Good! Kurt and Scott are pleased with the outcome.

It still goes on though, be patient.

light1rae said...

We have been and will continue to pray for Kurt and Scott so yes we will collectively pray with you all for TRUTH,Freedom, and Settlement amen!

;)

son of a prophet said...

Peanut Gallery said...

But SOP,

Christians do not keep many of the commandments. They have been mistakingly led to believe they have been done away with. (Sabbath, foods, festivals, etc)


pg,

there is no special sabbath day, as every day is a sabbath day by believing on yeshua.

paul said all foods are ok.

christians do not have festivals to celebrate, the NT makes no mention of keeping festivals for belivers. praciticing jews (non believers) however do keep festivals.

habakkuk said...

SOP said....

"paul said all foods are ok."

Tell that to my uncle who died of diabetes and a host of other conditions brought on from his love of pork and other bad foods. And paul didnt say it like that,....he said: I corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

In other words, pork is lawful (not sinful) but it sure ain't helpful to u living out your days to the fullest.

SOP said....

"christians do not have festivals to celebrate, the NT makes no mention of keeping festivals for belivers. "

I have to respectfully disagree again. In Acts 18:21 paul said: "I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem...."

As far as the feasts go, i really believe the enemy wants to hide the significance of these special seasons G-d said should be observed FOREVER.

habakkuk said...

By the way, if you are "brought under the power" of any food (addicted), it IS sin.

mogel said...

SOP said: "there is no special sabbath day,"

The Ten Commandments were not ever done away with, even though the Supreme Court may think so. The 10 commandments are applicable forever, whether it is the lower law, (OT) or the higher law (NT). "Remember the Sabbath day & keep it holy.":"Six days shalt thou labor & on the 7th day, thou shalt rest". "God is the same yesterday, today, & forever." Somehow, I think God would not do away from his "special day" SPECIFICALLY set aside in remembrance of him. Maybe He changed the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday, (many believe that & even quote scripture to support this), even the Seventh Day Advenists who are Christians, believe that the Sabbath was always Saturday, but I always think that a special day has always been set aside. Sure, we should "always remember Him," which infers that we should live his commandments 7 days a week. That goes without saying.

Judge Roy Bean said...

13th:

Docket Text: Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge William H. Alsup :Status Conference as to Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson, The Dorean Group, The Oxford Trust, Baylor Trust, Universal Trust Services, William Julian, Farrel J. Lecompte, Jr, Sara J. Magoon, Charles Dewey Tobias held on 6/13/2006. Government's request to appoint advisory counsel is denied. Government's request for a referral for the Quit Claims is granted. Case is re-designated for electronic filing. Time is excluded from today until 7/18/06. Motion/Trial Setting Hearing set for 7/18/2006 02:00 PM in Courtroom 9, 19th Floor, San Francisco before Hon. William H. Alsup. (Court Reporter Connie Kuhl.) (dt, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/13/2006)

"Government’s request to appoint advisory counsel to defendants Heineman and Johnson is
denied. Government’s request to refer the case to a Magistrate Judge for the Quit Claims is
granted. Government shall submit a proposed form of order.

Government has provided defendants with supplemental discovery. Defendants Lecompte and
Tobias request time to review the discovery. Public Defender’s Office will be substituting in
Josh Cohen for David Fermino.
Court will re-designate the case for electronic case filing, with the caveat that defendants
Heineman and Johnson continue to be served by mail and file by mail.
The US Marshal’s office and Steve Moore shall follow-up on defendant Tobias issue regarding
using the phone from the SF County Jail. Defendant Tobias’ request to be moved not ruled on.
Defendant Heineman and Johnson filed documents. Court finds they have no legal bearing.
Time is excluded from today until 7/18/06."

Dumb and Dumberer keep on keeping on.

imbigo said...

What fudge boy jean failed to post was that Kurt & Scott also filed a a GUILTY PLEE and it was DENIED!!!! GO FIGURE!!!!

mogel said...

Imbigo: What guilty plea on what issue specifically are you referring to? Maybe guilty of getting a fair hearing?

papa_dont_preach said...

I don't get it Imbigo, how is that a good thing? How does that play into Kurt and Scott's plan for their case being dismissed? This doesn't make any sense.

neodemes said...

Must be true. little o sez so,

Guilty to all counts?

What was their plea bargain?

Something so inane that it would, of course, be denied, no doubt.

papa_dont_preach said...

Then that would make sense. A guilty plea if condition x,y or z are agreed upon.

mogel said...

Judge Bean said: "Defendant Heineman and Johnson filed documents. Court finds they have no legal bearing."

IMBIGO, SO IS IT THIS SPECIFIC MOTION OR FILING THAT THE JUDGE DENIED THAT CAUSE YOU TO SAY, "GO FIGURE"? HOW IS FILING OF DOCUMENTS TANTAMOUNT TO A PLEE BARGAIN? AREN'T PLEE BARGAINS INITIALLY DONE OUTSIDE OF THE COURTS BY DISCUSSION & NEGOTIATION & OUTSIDE OF FILING OF DOCUMENTS? MAYBE I'M MISINTERPRETING WHAT IS REALLY BEING SAID & WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITHOUT ALL OF THE FACTS. HELP--- ANYONE?

KYHOOYA said...

What you all should be asking is ..
what legal case law or the equal was there that the Judge used to make that bases of no legal grounds and then dismiss.

It seems to me that no one here on either side is asking the question that should be asked. the one that should concern us all and that is are these POB following the rules or are they making them up as they going and just acting out the look of process for the crowd.

Never say never . You just might find yourself standing in front of one of these so called piece keeper and law interpreters

mogel said...

Judge Bean: What is the "quit claims" issue all about & why is the government/court so interested in expediting this?

mogel said...

I've never thought of this before, until now, but "Kyooya" is right. They aren't "peace keepers", but they are in fact, "piece keepers", because by the time they get threw with you & take a piece out of you, they never give the "pieces" back they took from you. They keep it. Actually I like his spelling better since it is much more telling of their true function and nature.

imbigo said...

If you all remember correctly its not Kurt Johnson & Scott Heineman being accused but KURT JOHNSON & SCOTT HEINEMAN. its the ALL caps... K&S that filed the docs...

mogel said...

Imbigo: Can ficitious "straw men" file court documents?

And if the Courts say that the Strawman is the same as the flesh & blood person, whether it's true or not, why would one want to plead guilty on any counts if the Courts refuse to recognize the profound difference?

Pauligirl said...

Here is the latest stuff filed at Pacer--the format is screwy, but I can't do anything about it.
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06/13/2006 101 ENTRY OF GUILTY PLEAS as to Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson (rhw, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/13/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
06/13/2006 102 NOTICE of corrections of caption of superceding indictment to reflect the removal of the ens legis for the placement of the natural man by stipulation of the parties by Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson (rhw, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/13/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
06/13/2006 103 DEMAND for surrender of bond verified blaim and notice and dishonor contract by Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson (rhw, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/13/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
06/13/2006 104 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge William H. Alsup :Status Conference as to Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson, The Dorean Group, The Oxford Trust, Baylor Trust, Universal Trust Services, William Julian, Farrel J. Lecompte, Jr, Sara J. Magoon, Charles Dewey Tobias held on 6/13/2006. Government's request to appoint advisory counsel is denied. Government's request for a referral for the Quit Claims is granted. Case is re-designated for electronic filing. Time is excluded from today until 7/18/06. Motion/Trial Setting Hearing set for 7/18/2006 02:00 PM in Courtroom 9, 19th Floor, San Francisco before Hon. William H. Alsup. (Court Reporter Connie Kuhl.) (dt, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/13/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
06/14/2006 94 ORDER DESIGNATING CASE FOR LIMITED ELECTRONIC CASE FILING as to Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson, The Dorean Group, The Oxford Trust, Baylor Trust, Universal Trust Services, William Julian, Farrel J. Lecompte, Jr, Sara J. Magoon, Charles Dewey Tobias . Signed by Judge William H. Alsup on 6/14/06. (whalc2, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 6/14/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
06/14/2006 CASE DESIGNATED for Electronic Filing. (Entered: 06/14/2006) 06/14/2006 105 Proposed Order by USA as to Dale Scott Heineman, Kurt F. Johnson, The Dorean Group, Farrel J. Lecompte, Jr, Charles Dewey Tobias Excluding Time Under the Speedy Trial Act, 18 U.S.C. 3161 et seq. (Keller, James) (Filed on 6/14/2006) (Entered: 06/14/2006)
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There is nothing else entered about the gulity pleas as of yet. K & S are given the option of e-filing docs, and the court will have theirs on line again. There is a letter that will be linked to that will explain the quitclaim comment. All of this is copied from Pacer, which is a free service ( free as long as you don't go over $10.00 worth of docs a month @ .08 a page. Anybody can sign up and look at this stuff.
P

neodemes said...

Here is the link pauligirl referred to:

http://www.rei-resource.com/dorean/kurt-quitclaims.pdf

imbigo said...

ITS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE STRAW MAN AND THE HUMAN IS SEPERATED, THE DOCTOR PROVED THAT ON RECORD!!!

whyudothat said...

thnx for the update, roy, pauli,neo

just the facts

neodemes said...

imbigo said...

ITS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE STRAW MAN AND THE HUMAN IS SEPERATED, THE DOCTOR PROVED THAT ON RECORD!!!

****************************

Really? Show us.

KYHOOYA said...

Justice7777777 said...
It is too bad this blog wasn't up and running when the scam was in its infancy. He would have only gotten a handfull of customers.
Speaking of infancy with that of a true expert I see Justnass or should we call you Tin cup ,Tcob247 or Utah you all sound the same.

By your ending comment it show’s your mentality is = to that of some little kid on the play ground who’s lack of quick of wit might have him yell out something like (“I’m rubber your glue what ever you say ect…..as the only Zinger in his dwindling bag of
Comment’s
To have anyone think that you don’t read the post on this Blog is about the same no matter who wrote them, is again a good example of your infant under no aged brain showing through.

Try not to get to much DREWLE ON YOURSELF as you try to sound like someone of importance well posting you BABBLE, my guess is that you have about as much real working knowledge of the LAW & how it’s is intended to work’s as a two year old .

So run along now Justy a nasty boy and play in another sand box for a change you have over stayed your time in this one , being how you don’t read the comments anyway and couldn’t interpret what’s interesting even if you were by now run along and stay out of trouble you little TWITT!

I FOR ONE DON’T GIVE YOUR SELF PROCLAIMED INSITE MORE THAN THE TIME IT TAKES TO SAY WHAT A DUMB ASS.

anonymous0909 said...

Kurt,
I hear that Power in Unity owes Advocates for Justice $30,000 for performing audits and won't pay them.

anonymous0909 said...

I heard that Power and Unity owes the TILA auditors $30,000 and refuses to pay.