Friday, August 11, 2006

Courting Continues

Sept 5 is our next court date. 5 times now we have plead guilty and had it refused. Mr. Alsup said we have to confess. We already submitted an affidavit of felony confession that accomplished this task. Still it is refused. They are merely interested in getting a buffer called a jury to protect them from the havoc they have created by their crimes. This is not going to happen. You want to play games with peoples lives you're going to stick around until the finish without shelter. These wimps know how to dish it out but they don't want to feel the heat of a scorching retort. I wish all of you would do some study so you too could see how futile their claims are. You would know that you have your fraudulent lender by the balls and no purchased crony judge can protect them. You would know that the pain you have suffered is proportionate to your reward. You would know that all along I was the best trustee you could hire for the job because even beyond personal suffering, your ignorance, and displaced blame I finish the fight for your benefit. The government plants as detractors on this page are not knowledgeable to even offer reasonable debate. This should lead you to truth easy enough. We are still in the battle and working hard to make Sept. 5 another glorious day to remember. One of you will be informed of our strategies and can post your opinion without exposing the mechanics. Let this person be a witness to you that we are in great command of our faculties and battle plan. Let his confidence affect yours. He is a suffering client as yourselves and is not looking for vanity or puffery.

60 comments:

tcob247 said...

Kurt said.............

"This should lead you to truth easy enough. We are still in the battle and working hard to make Sept. 5 another glorious day to remember."

Question.
When were the other glorious days?

Pauligirl said...

KYHOOYA said...

"maybe tin cup can answer that one as to why it is that the bank take you doc signed for in front of a notory public to wittness and they change itto what they intended to have as in the first place. Why not just do tha from the start so it can be seen up front why take the chance of someone finding out a making a big deal and saying that they (the banks) were stealing,lieing ,and hide facts and shit why's that? anyone

why don't the banks just tell what there going to do in plan everyday wording and discloser with out the tricks to civer it up ??"

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What exactly do you think the bank is changing on the documents?
P

god said...

TCOB247=GOVT PLANT 24/7

LOL!!!!

tcob247 said...

god said...
TCOB247=GOVT PLANT 24/7

LOL!!!!


Hey God
You are wrong
You must be the anti-christ

I love America but not a big fan of the Govt.

But, go ahead and think whatever you want

You should know....you are God

(has your holy spirit been talking to SOP lately?)

son of a prophet said...

totally corrupt obnoxious blogger said....


(has your holy spirit been talking to SOP lately?)

2:08 PM

why do you involve me in your battles?

i have no quarrel with you.

kaz4541 said...

So, this won't be over in August??

newgurl said...

right, what happened to done by August?

newgurl said...
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tcob247 said...

sop said....

why do you involve me in your battles?
i have no quarrel with you.

SOP...
What battle?
What quarrel?

It's a little joke with some sarcasm.
Don't be so sensitive

You are always claiming to hear the exact words of the zHoly Spirit while talking down to everyone else here.

You also warned us about numerous pending terror attacks (remember the super bowl?)

Surely my remark didnt cut you to the quick?

I think everyone on here can dish it out as well as take it
(except maybe Kahooya, but I can never tell cause I cant decipher his posts)

neodemes said...

kaz4541 said...

So, this won't be over in August??


newgurl said...

right, what happened to done by August?

*********************************

Gosh, you mean it won't be done by August???

What a shock!

:-o

neodemes said...

"The government plants as detractors on this page..."

LOL

You're not important enough to warrant plants. Get over yourself.

imbigo said...

kaz4541 said...
So, this won't be over in August??

3:59 PM

newgurl said...
right, what happened to done by August?

4:47 PM


I sure hope you faithless vipors are'nt Dorean clients, if you are then I have a question, WHERE IS YOUR FAITH???

IF YOUR NOT A CLIENT KEEP ON BEING THE HATER THAT YOU ARE. THE MORE YOU HATE THE MORE GOD WILL BLESS US RIGHT IN YOU FACE!!!

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU ALL AT THE TOP!!!!

WHAT UP SOLVO, GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND

HAY WILL, K-LUU, UNK, PINK..

GOD IS GOOD "ALL THE TIME"

kaz4541 said...

I am a Dorean client, I would like to believe this will go through and I appreciate what Mr.Johnson and Mr.Heineman have been doing for us. But at same time, this blog is the only place I can get information from since I don't really know whats exactly going on and all i can do is just wait...so, I was just hoping to see this to be over in August like that was said that should happen. I thought something remarkable thing happened on July 18th at the court but I don't even know what happened. I don't mean to upset anyone with my comments, I just wanna know whats going on... Thanks again Mr.Johnson and Mr.Heineman, I am believe in you.
P.S. Whats your e-mail address, Mr.Johnson?? Mine is kaz4541@safe-mail.net

tcob247 said...

Hey Kaz I'm a client too
Don't be too disappointed when Sept 5th rolls around and nothing happens, it's been like that for two years
There will be another date after that, it too will be the MOST important date yet.
Sorry if the truth hurts
I think Imbigo needs another tank of propane for his grill
Hopefully you didnt lose your house

tcab247 said...

KAZ4541; I AM A CLIENT,AND CAN TELL YOU,IF YOU LISTEN TO ANYONE BESIDES MOGAL AND IMBIGO, YOU WILL BE GREATLY MISLED ON THIS BLOG. I BELIEVE MOGUL IS RIGHT ON EXCEPT FOR MOGAL'S MORMAN DOCTRINE. I FEEL MOGAL IS MISLED HERE.

son of a prophet said...

"it will be over by august" siad...


dun worry, it will be over when its over.

it like money in the bank; the logner it stays in the bank, the more interest you will get.

you be gettin lots of interest.

son of a prophet said...

" Regardless it is going to prevail as such and Mr. Alsup on August 15th will be recused. I actually like this guy."



if alsap is excused, does this mean that you go back to 'go' and start the game all over again from the beginning?

is it like having a new trial all over agian?

tcob247 said...

tcab247 said...

I speak for myself not anyone else

I'm so lame I have to try and make up a name that resembles others on here

Hi Farrel

~~The Swami~~~ said...
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~~The Swami~~~ said...

~~S~~~ said...
Rumor has it that Ms. Cleo is carrying Bruce Macomber's baby!






A DINGO ATE YOUR BABY!

son of a prophet said...

careful when buying cell phones....

and BS continues......man arrested as terrorist when buying cell phones.


http://hosted.ap.org/
dynamic/stories/
M/MI_PHONES_
TERROR_CHARGES_MIOL-?SITE=MIDTN&SECTION=
HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

mogel said...

Kurt said: "They are merely interested in getting a buffer called a jury to protect them from the havoc they have created by their crimes."
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I'd like to play the devil's advocate for a minute simply for the purpose of debate and to get deeper into the meat and heart of these issues.

Can't a jury work against the government's agenda too? Is a jury so easily manipulated by the Judge & prosecution? I always believed and thought that cases were won in their intelligence of picking the right jury selection mostly, not so much in the Court battle, although all phases of the battle are important and shouldn't be overlooked at all so no mistakes are made anywhere. Apparently, we saw that in the Schiff case that a bad and stupid jury was picked. Now Schiff is paying the price for that oversight even though he is an innocent man. I just hope he doesn't die in prison.

Maybe Schiff didn't spend enough money and time to buy the best jury consultants, that money could buy. OJ Simpson spared no expense and got off scott free. Scott free---that must be an omen of some kind or sort.

Does it need to be that way that this case going to a jury trial is a mistake or too big of a risk? Is that not the risk to take then since there is a better and faster battle plan to victory?

I would like to see more disussion of how a person can plead to the guilty charges 5 different times and why the court still won't accept this. Apparently at one time, if not each time, it was believed that the Court would accept these pleas, or why even bother spending the time to thoughtfully give them in such a way with the conditions and implications imposed?

Why would pleading guilty to anything EVER be a benefit, unless it placed some sort of trap for the judge & prosecution? Explain exactly the nature and purposes of this trap if you will. If the government is not taking the bait, then, maybe their smarter than what credit has been given to them?

I'm concerned of the accusation that the government is trying to steal the commercial value of the dorean administrative judgments and what is being done to stop this. I think more discussion is warranted on that issue too, to explain exactly what that means and how the government and Court plans on doing that.

Does the Court setting up control of allowing clients or not, to quit claim out of their family trust have anything to do with the government's agenda and plan? Certainly if quit claiming out of the trust at will, is more difficult, and takes much more time, and becomes much more expense by having an attorney & going through the Court, it is also more difficult for clients in financial trouble to refinance at will in the timely manner they need to should that be an issue.

Could it be that the government's plan is at some point in time is to force all clients to quit claim out of their Family Trust by the government's hopes to show according to the Court, that the process is fraudulent and unlawful? Will such a forced event effectively stop Dorean's plans of success? If that isn't true, then, why is it a condition imposed to be in the trust and set up a trust bank account domestically and interntionally, in order to receive the eventual settlement monies?

If the government and courts can shut the dorean business down effectively, and permanently and do this in such a so called legal manner, what is going to stop them from accomplishing some sort of judgment saying that all trusts created are declared to be illegal and must be dissolved of all assets-- assuming this is the government's objective and agenda?

Has the opposition effectively already accomplished a limbo state of Dorean not being able to finish the race, as long as the Principles are in jail and not declared free? If that is not true, then discussion needs to go into more depth, why this isn't true.

tcob247 said...

sop....you are an idiot

You can buy a cell phone no problem.......

but if you have 1000 of them in a car with you along with other suspicious items then you could be in trouble

wake up man
quit trying to believe that everything is a govenment conspiracy

There are people out there who hate America and want to destory it and us
Or is it our fault?

Why don't you post the relevent info instead of saying
"careful when buying cell phones....
and BS continues......man arrested as terrorist when buying cell phones."

How about posting a little more info like this.........

"Police stopped the men's van about 1:30 a.m. and found nearly 1,000 phones, most of which were prepaid TracFones, along with a laptop computer and a bag of receipts, police said. The receipts were from several locations, including a Wisconsin store.

"The cell phones can be used as detonators. Batteries can be disassembled and used to make methamphetamine.

Investigators in Marietta, a city of about 14,000 near West Virginia, found a map in the men's car showing locations of Wal-Mart stores in Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina and South Carolina. Authorities also said the men had information about airline flights and airports in their car.

Prosecutors in Ohio have said the prepaid phones can be used to make hard-to-track international calls and have been linked to use by terrorists

son of a prophet said...

but if you have 1000 of them in a car with you along


DIDNT KNOW THAT IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO BUY 1000 CELL PHONES.

QUOTE THE APPLICABLE LAW.



There are people out there who hate America and want to destory it and us


YES. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY ARE ALREADY WODRKING FOR THE US GOVT.

GOT TO HAVE SOMENONE ON THE INSIDE REMBER?


lololololo.........


"could be used as detonators"

hehehehehehe.....dont eat raw cabbage....it could cause a fart that could be used as a detonators!!!


GEEZ! THE GOVT. MUST BE LAUGHING THEIR B**LS OFF AT THE S**T THAT THEY CAN PUT OUT AND PPL WILL BELIEVE IT.

AND WHEN THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS, IT JUST TELLS THEM TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE....

GUB: "LETS SEE; MAYBE WE CAN LET A MONKEY ESCAPE WITH A BANNANA AND SAY THAT WE CAUGHT A POTENTIAL TERROIST.

AFTER ALL, THE MONKEY CAN BE TRAINED, AND THE BANNANA CAN BE USED TO CONCEAL A DETONATOR."


yup, they gotta be laughing their b**ls off at how stupid the ppl are.


why not? if you stupid, they (govt) feel that you deserve it.

neodemes said...

Trunk Monkey

~~The Swami~~~ said...

SOP, the black helicopters are outside your house again!

tcob247 said...

SOP

Actually...I'm laughing my balls off at how stupid you are.

Did the Holy Spirit teach you how to talk like that?

son of a prophet said...

how to talk like what??


AND even IF i said anything wrong, i never said that i was perfect, REMEMBER?

BUT, the HS giving one wisdom has nothing to do with being perfect.

so, whats your point?

noah was a drunk

david a murderer

rahab a whore

moses a killer

etc.

need i go on.....

thats just the point...

you lack of HS wisdom allows to to believe that pastors/priests are perfect, which allows them to BS you because of this belief.

tcob247 said...

SOP....said
you lack of HS wisdom allows to to believe that pastors/priests are perfect, which allows them to BS you because of this belief.

Now who said I believe that?
Did I say that?
Why would you say that is the way I think?


Yes, all the Bible heroes were as you say.
Why is it you dont go to church again
Because they arent perfect like you?

Oh, I'm sorry. You arent perfect

So why be a "lone ranger" CHristian?

imbigo said...

kaz4541 said...

P.S. Whats your e-mail address, Mr.Johnson?? Mine is kaz4541@safe-mail.net

Hay kaz4541...

If you are who you say you are you should have somewhat of an idea about whats going on, If your not in the loop maybe its best with that kind of faith!

and tcob247 ("PLANT") you speak with fork toung!!!

imbigo said...

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP!!!!!!!!

MY BAD!!

whyudothat said...

mogel said..what is going to stop them from accomplishing some sort of judgment saying that all trusts created are declared to be illegal and must be dissolved of all assets--


mogel, the govt has no legal remedy of any kond to shut down any trust and say it is illegal.

at the very most they could try and argue the title of ONE OF the PROPERTY'S title in the trust was unlawful (which can be proven that it was lawful), that doesn't affect the trust as a whole, how could that if I have 20 different properties in the trust, ONE improper titled piece of property couldnt negate the whole trust. much less all of its remaining assets from one improper filed title.

whyudothat said...

of any 'KIND'

tcob247 said...

Imbigo

I'm going to change my name to plant247 because you have just outed me and blown my cover

Thanks dude

plant247 said...

SORRY tcob247......THIS NAME IS CURRENTLY BEING USED. PLEASE USE A DIFFERNT NAME AND NOT TRY TO STEAL SOMEONE ELSES IDENTITY.EVEN THOUGH YOU SEEM TO HAVE A REAL IDENTITY PROBLEM.........

tcob247 said...

LOL

Good one

neodemes said...

Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.

Colossians 3:12-14 NIV

whyudothat said...

mogel said...I'm concerned of the accusation that the government is trying to steal the commercial value of the dorean administrative judgments and what is being done to stop this.

kurt said..It's a sham, a farce, a ridiculous scheme to steal my commercial value while pretending my honesty was criminal.


the statement was made that they are trying to steal 'Kurt's' commercial value in court room tactics, NOT the administrative judgements.

neodemes said...

No need for concern, just more meaningless drivel.

imbigo said...

neodemes said...
No need for concern, just more meaningless drivel.

1:37 PM


So things you dont understand are meaninglass drivel???

P.S. I dont claim to know it all but there are some things that are just obvious, "RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG!!!"

GOD BLESS YOU ANY-WAY

BIG"O" 1+1+1=1

SEE YOU AT THE TOP!!!

P.S.AGAIN...

TCOB247,PLANT2.. WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS, I USE MATCH LIGHTS THEY START UP PRETTY FAST!!! LOL

tcob247 said...

Imbigo
"TCOB247,PLANT2.. WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS, I USE MATCH LIGHTS THEY START UP PRETTY FAST!!! LOL"

Are you running out of matches?
LOL

neodemes said...

"GOD BLESS YOU ANY-WAY"

You, too.

"I USE MATCH LIGHTS THEY START UP PRETTY FAST!!!"

Planning on visiting some Judges?

:-o

wantobefree said...

HEY MOGEL I RECIEVED AN E-MAIL TO SET UP OFFSHORE BANK SO MONEY COULD BE WIRED THERE BEFORE CHRISTMAS BUT THIS HAD TO BE DONE BEFORE END OF AUG THE COURT DATE ISNT UNTILL SEPT 5TH IM A LITTLE CONFUSED THERE BUT WOULDNT IT BE SMARTER TO WAIT TILL THEY WIN THE COURT CASE.IT ALL SEEMS VERY FUNNY HOW YOULL NEED $230 TO SET STUFF.WOW $230 X 5,000 THATS A GOOD PROFIT.VERY INTERESTING TELL US MORE.BESIDES THAT SOME OF THE THINGS IVE READ YOUR NEXT ON THE CHOPPIN BLOCK.JUST WHEN IVE WIPED MY HANDS OF THIS SHIT BAM GET AN E-MAIL AND BACK WONDERING AM I GOING TO SEE SOME OF MY MONEY.HEY I TELL YOU WHAT KEEP YOUR MILLION ILL JUST TAKE MY 4000 BACK AND BE TICKELED.

neodemes said...

wanttobefree,

Is that true? They are charging $230.00 to set up an offshore account to receive settlement or 'administrative judgement' money that hasn't even come close to fruition?

Is Dr. Dread behind these emails?

Mogel next on the chopping block, you say? Says who? Seems to me, as vocal as he has been throughout all this, for a couple/few years now, he would have been nabbed along with the rest...unless he never actually had any clients. Can't imagine any other reason he has been left out, other than selling out, of course, but the moogster wouldn't do that.

son of a prophet said...

can someone tell me if the urbansurvival.com site has been hacked?

i read it everyday and it seems like there is a different page there. this would be caused by hacing, right?

WillToFight said...

"I know of no civilized country, indeed, in which liberty is less esteemed than it is in the United States: certainly there is none in which more persistent efforts are made to limit it and put it down.

Liberty is not for these slaves; I do not advocate inflicting it against their conscience. On the contrary, I am strongly in favor of letting them crawl and grovel all they please before whatever fraud or combination of frauds they choose to venerate...Our whole practical government is grounded in mob psychology and.. the Boobus Americanus will follow any command that promises to make him safer." --H. L. Menchen -- 1956. --

Seen it in Utah said...

Does anybody have any idea how or if it were possible for Kurt and Scott to be in Arizona on February 22, 206 and also on March 29, 2006? I have two deeds on my desk that purport to be signed by Kurt and Scott on those dates. They were notarized in Arizona--with language in the jurat declaring that the signatures were made personally and before the notary--in Maricopa County.

Seen it in Utah said...

What? I'm just asking a question. Does anyone know if the dim duo were in Arizona at the two times they deeds were notarized?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

utah you're so damn smart - why don't you figure it out

papa_dont_preach said...

"Personally Known By Me..."

"Power of Attorney..."

Go spread your misinformation somewhere else.

climax said...

Seen it in Utah:

Contact the Notary and request a copy of Kurt and Scott's signature from the Notary book. If they signed the book then technically they were there in Arizona.

mogel said...

http://www.worldreports.org/news/15_highest_office-holde

I agree that the government doesn't have authority to shut down any trust or call it illegal, however, look what the government has ALREADY DONE in the Leo Wanta affair.

Course there's a big difference between 70 trillion & 80 billion.

wantobefree said...

WELL I GUESS MY QUESTION ISNT GOING TO GET ANSWERED,BUT I KINDA FIGURED THAT.INSTEAD OF $230 TO GET THIS SET UP HELL ILL DO IT FOR EVERYBODY FOR $150 AND MAKE ME A QUIK $750,000.5,000 CLIENTS TRUST ME WHEN I GET THE MONEY ILL TAKE CARE OF YOU.YEA RIGHT BOY I TELL YA THERE IS SOME SCAMMING PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD.AND YOU HONESTLY THINK YOUR GOING TO GET INTO HEAVEN ROBBIN THE POOR TO FATTEN YOUR OWN WALLET.NOT HERE YOUVE TAKEN ENOUGH MONEY FROM ME YOU BASTARDS.

Judge Roy Bean said...

Wantobefree - nothing that happens in Kurt and Scott's criminal trial will affect your trust or property.

If a lender wants to challenge the validity of the conveyance and presentments they can do so without regard to the criminal trial, and there is established case law that will allow them to prevail and make the conveyance a nullity in the eyes of the courts. The local civil court will then order the property records corrected and you'll be back to where you were before signing up for the scam - minus a few thousand dollars and your property.

If you can make up the payments and don't get prosecuted for being a perpetrator, you may be able to keep your property. Chances are, like many of the few-hundred or so (not thousands) of actual cases, you were headed toward eventual foreclosure when you started or shortly thereafter when you stopped making payments.

The Federal court in CA has set up a magistrate to handle the process for getting out of the bogus trusts (via Kurt and Scott's signatures) during the trial. At least your attorney may be able to prevent you being prosecuted if you decide to act before the lender sues you.

As far as setting up a foreign bank account to receive the funds from some alleged settlement, it is yet another bogus attempt to keep people on the hook as if they are going to get something from nothing.

Again - the criminal trial has nothing to do with the legally-ruled invalidity of the process itself as determined in the civil courts. The Dorean process is legally bogus no matter how many stupid posts Gyron Gashler keeps making. Those civil court decisions have not been appealed and until someone actually turns one over on appeal, they are citable decisions lenders will use if they need to.

Don't confuse the two situations.

tcob247 said...

mogel asid....80 billion.

Is that how much you are going to get?

Did you pay your $230 for your bank account set up?

Hurry....quick

$80 billion on the way

(two weeks)

mogel said...

Judge Idiot Bean said: "At least your attorney may be able to prevent you being prosecuted if you decide to act before the lender sues you."
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Name 10 clients that are being sued by their lenders for fraud for being in the dorean process. If there are hundreds of clients, certainly you can name at least 10. If you can't, you need to shut up yourself for being stupid and spreading lies.

Also, go somewhere to learn how to spell. At least you can attempt to spell my name correctly. Apparently you can't.

mogel said...

Judge Beanhead said: "The Federal court in CA has set up a magistrate to handle the process for getting out of the bogus trusts"
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The trusts are separate from the dorean process. Please name one legal reason why the trusts that were created are bogus.

If you can't, then, may I suggest that you are stupid.

mogel said...

Judge Beanhead said: "At least your attorney may be able to prevent you being prosecuted if you decide to act before the lender sues you."
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Lenders don't prosecute bonehead.

mogel said...

Judge beanhead said: "If a lender wants to challenge the validity of the conveyance and presentments they can do so without regard to the criminal trial."
______________________________
Not too many lenders have attempted this challenge. I wonder why?

Mr. Concha said...

You're all idiots for being taken in by such a simple scheme.

And kaz4541 is a pedophile who got caught on NBC Dateline. Nice job retard.

not that anyone is every going to read, much less reply to this comment. not sure why i posted it.