Saturday, August 05, 2006

My Faith is Fading

My faith is fading but do not be concerned it is only natural. On the 18th we went to court and successfully ensnared these tunnel vision lemmings into two traps. Faith is the substance of things hoped for. In the beginning my faith had to latch onto God’s word as a distant beacon of my destination beyond this trial. As faith tenaciously stays focused the distance is diminished and hope will obtain and posses its promise. Faith fades naturally as fact replaces hope with substance. September a year ago we were finally exposed to the rat in the woodpile of our business. God’s promise of extermination of these arrogant rodents is now turning to fact. They are so ignorant of the Uniform Commercial Code and contracting in general that they can’t see that our bait is always connected to a trap. I can now confidently say beyond a faith statement, that we are going to win. I don’t care what venue I enter we have now gained control of the factual evidence. He who controls the evidence wins. Creditors have the facts of a debt that is why they win. We have proven our creditor claims absolutely without question. It is only a matter of time until a reversal of fortune takes place. Time is their last useful weapon because damages increase with every extension. This tool will soon be our friend. Every extension will be painful to them. These guys laugh with Haman’s laugh in court and we laugh inside as we continue to feed them rope. Fading is a good thing especially when it is justified. Kind of like Fannie Mae’s stock.

36 comments:

neodemes said...

"It is only a matter of time until a reversal of fortune takes place. Time is their last useful weapon because damages increase with every extension. This tool will soon be our friend. Every extension will be painful to them."

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But, but...

You said it would be settled by August...now you say you are drawing things out?

Gosh, that's a contradicition, isn't it?

How much time do you need...30 years to life?

tick, tock

god said...

Neodemes: How much time do you need...30 years to life?

tick, tock



I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS "GOD NEITHER SLUMBERS NOR SLEEPS" , BUT YOUR POSTS MAKE ME YAAAAAAAWNNNNNN!!!!

Madtowne said...

Thanks for the encouraging news Kurt.
I'll keep praying for you.
Keep up the good fight.

guiltyassin said...

who are ALL the supporters? Farrell Le Compte?

son of a prophet said...

wha hoppen to me good ol' friend.......

who?

the moogel?????


you stll with us, guy??

son of a prophet said...

saw something disturbing on a forum today....

israel is going to withdraw frm the west bank.

now it doesnt mean much to me, BUT, if i lived in israel it would.

ehud olmert said it.

hmmmm..........

'mert- from the latin word

mertas/morte = death

does he mean death for israel?

illminati always make play on words/names

could olmert be the guy?

has he sold out isreal??

if so, just more evidence, like 9/11, you need somenone on the inside to sell you out.

cant be done without somenone on the inside.

has olmert sold out gods ppl???

just like 9/11, another inside job, brougth to you by you local sponsor...the illiminati

mogel said...

The government charges of bank fraud against the Dorean Group is ridiculous because the lender is the one guilty of fraud because they aren't the "holder in due course" or owner of the promissory note because they (1) gave no financial consideration for the note because they took no risk (2) altered the note for their benefit committing forgery (3) Showed bad faith through nondisclosure of what they did through their unjust enrichment.

Yes, I would say the ignorance of the lenders of UCC 11 is apparent or maybe they understand the law but prefer not going there because it exposes their own bank fraud.

When Kurt is attempting to obtain evidence of the banks fraud through his subpoenas, the government comes back to get the Court to quash this & says that the subpoenas ARE IRRELEVANT. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any evidence that can show the bad behaviour of the banks is nonsensical or irrelevant or creates an undue burden, according to the government prosecuting team.

UCC 11 proves that the bank is the party guilty of fraud by their illegal creation of monies through their forgery.

If a Court denies any evidence of this nature to be produced for the Court, the Court is also acting badly by not allowing the Defendants to properly plead their case & defend themselves.

Regardless of how things turn out, either way the trap is baited & the rodents will eventually take the bait & be stuck in the trap helpless and powerless.
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UCC 11
§3-1302. Holder in due course

(1) Subject to subsection (3) and section 3-1106, subsection (3), "holder in due course" means the holder of an instrument if:

(a) The instrument when issued or negotiated to the holder does not bear such apparent evidence of forgery or alteration or is not otherwise so irregular or incomplete as to call into question its authenticity; and [1993, c. 293, Pt. A, §2 (new).]


(b) The holder took the instrument:
(i) For value;

(ii) In good faith;

(iii) Without notice that the instrument is overdue or has been dishonored or that there is an uncured default with respect to payment of another instrument issued as part of the same series;

(iv) Without notice that the instrument contains an unauthorized signature or has been altered;

(v) Without notice of any claim to the instrument described in section 3-1306; and

(vi) Without notice that any party has a defense or claim in recoupment described in section 3-1305, subsection (1).
[1993, c. 293, Pt. A, §2 (new).]

guiltyassin said...

"Time is their last useful weapon because damages increase with every extension."


yeah, I've heard that before...trust me... the last thing they are worried about is "damages increasing with every extension." everyone says that when they are behind bars... because they want revenge Sooo bad... yeah right.. sorry, but you're not gettin nothin if/when you get out.. and you know it.

Judge Roy Bean said...

Byron - you still don't realize you can't defend charges against yourself by accusing someone else of some other crime.

"Your honor, I stole this car but the guy I stole it from was a drug dealer and I don't think he paid for it."

Doesn't work in the real world.

The Dorean process has already been ruled as fraudulent - the trusts' presentments and bogus filings are being overturned all over the place.

Face reality - the process has been ruled illegal in civil courts - in multiple districts.

Nothing Kurt and Scott do in their criminal trial will have any impact on any of the civil cases that have already been lost. Nor will any participants see any change in their case status in court. The civil rulings are what they are and the participants will have to live with the consequences of what they got into.

Trying to blend the criminal case into your goofy lending theories that have already been shot down in civil courts is just another exmple of your attempts to mislead people into holding on and not coming after you for what they've lost or are going to lose.

Elmer Fudd said...

Judge Roy Bean said...
Byron - you still don't realize you can't defend charges against yourself by accusing someone else of some other crime.

"Your honor, I stole this car but the guy I stole it from was a drug dealer and I don't think he paid for it."

Doesn't work in the real world.

The Dorean process has already been ruled as fraudulent - the trusts' presentments and bogus filings are being overturned all over the place.

Face reality - the process has been ruled illegal in civil courts - in multiple districts.

Nothing Kurt and Scott do in their criminal trial will have any impact on any of the civil cases that have already been lost. Nor will any participants see any change in their case status in court. The civil rulings are what they are and the participants will have to live with the consequences of what they got into.

Trying to blend the criminal case into your goofy lending theories that have already been shot down in civil courts is just another exmple of your attempts to mislead people into holding on and not coming after you for what they've lost or are going to lose.

7:06 PM



Couldn't of said it better myself!!

guiltyassin said...

"Face reality - the process has been ruled illegal in civil courts - in multiple districts."


It is not illegal to make what is wrong right. The problem is what is wrong cannot be made right because what is right can never be made wrong; its just that a wrong doens't make a right. Only right makes right and wrong makes wrong.

Pauligirl said...

Mogel said "Yes, I would say the ignorance of the lenders of UCC 11 is apparent or maybe they understand the law but prefer not going there because it exposes their own bank fraud."

Please explain what you are talking about here.
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neodemes said...

Pauligirl said...

Mogel said "Yes, I would say the ignorance of the lenders of UCC 11 is apparent or maybe they understand the law but prefer not going there because it exposes their own bank fraud."

Please explain what you are talking about here.
P

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Bear in mind, Pauligirl, Mogel comes from the Land of Moron.

Its a fanatasy land wherein dwell folks who believe they will be god of their own planet some day.

Consider the source.

climax said...

"Bear in mind, Pauligirl, Mogel comes from the Land of Moron."

It takes one to know one.

neodemes said...

climax said...

"Bear in mind, Pauligirl, Mogel comes from the Land of Moron."

It takes one to know one.

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Nope, not me. I don't strive to be a god. A little "history" for you, climax:

"The hill Cumorah was the scene of the final battle between the Nephites and the Lamanites, but Moroni tells us that it was also known as the hill Ramah, where the Jaredites perished (Ether 15:11). The Jaredites had occupied the land northward, where they built their principal city called Moron. We are given several indications of the relationship between Moron and Nephite territory. Ether 7:6 says: "Now the land of Moron, where the king dwelt, was near the land which is called Desolation by the Nephites." Ether 9:3 states further that Omer, a Jaredite king, "departed out of the land with his family, and traveled many days, and came over and passed by the hill of Shim, and came over by the place where the Nephites were destroyed, and from thence eastward, and came to a place which was called Ablom, by the seashore." Another passage says: "their flocks began to flee before the poisonous serpents, towards the land southward, which was called by the Nephites Zarahemla" (Ether 9:31). Therefore, Moron was north of Desolation and the hill Shim, but the land of the Jaredites was close enough for their flocks to wander into the land southward."

Tony Tuba said...

Swami please contact me.

son of a prophet said...

neodims said...

"Bear in mind, Pauligirl, Mogel comes from the Land of Moron."


C'mon neo,

you lose credibilty when you say stuff like this.

Even tho I believe that J Smith was a false prophet, you cannot convince others by insulting them.

This is not the christian way of doing things.

HOw are you setting an example?

When I first came on this blog, I was called just about every derogatory name tht you can think of, from pornographer to homo to pedophile, and if you go back, I HAD NEVER EVEN ONCE RESPONDED IN KIND.

Trading insult for insult does not a christian make. You have to be able to take it and keep quite.

Its hard, but that is the task if you have the HS to keep you and not let it bother you.

I dont agree with what you say regarding banks being honest, but when you talk about religioin, keep it on point and dont insult.

To his credit, mogel has not done this and god is keeping track.

son of a prophet said...

re: the case, i have a question tht i have not seen anyone ask on this blog?

if what the banks do is ok, then why cant I open a PRIVATE BANK and issue promissory notes (securities) and get rich like the bnk does???

anyone care to respond.

then i could create promissory notes and sell them and make a forutne and dont need much money to begin with and wont need to keep the money in deposits either.

just need to fractionalise the money and circulate the the fed reserve does.

neodemes said...

Point taken, SOP.

It's just frustrating to see mogel beat the dead Dorean horse and continue to promote the notion that anything good will be coming from the mess they made of many lives.

I see a parallel between mindless belief in Dorean and following the teachings of the false religion that is stealing millions of souls, including his own.

What is the proper way to witness to a Mormon? Help me out here.

Or, HERE, if you prefer.

w said...

son of a prophet said...if what the banks do is ok, then why cant I open a PRIVATE BANK and issue promissory notes (securities) and get rich like the bnk does???

the question has been asked many times in the past, you would be jailed for securities fraud. as some here have been in the past.

neodemes said...

FYI

www.startabank.com/how-to-start/

Note: I have NO IDEA of the validity of this site. Beware.

neodemes said...

oops. Try this:

www.startabank.com/how-to-start/

Note: I have NO IDEA of the validity of this site. Beware.

neodemes said...

never mind :(

mogel said...

Judge Roy Obscene said: Byron - you still don't realize you can't defend charges against yourself by accusing someone else of some other crime.

"Your honor, I stole this car but the guy I stole it from was a drug dealer and I don't think he paid for it."
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First of all your anology doesn't fit because the Dorean Group stole nothing. Second of all, I'm not necessarily accusing the banks of fraud, even though that's true. I'm saying the bank is not the holder in due course, so the bank isn't damaged. If the bank isn't damaged, where is the fraud? There is none. There's also the issue of the bond that was tendered in the presentment that protects the Dorean Group from any fraud charges.

Go twist the words of someone else. I leave for a few days and get some work done & the rats come out in full force. Where is an exterminator when you need one?

I don't know of any of my clients that have lost anything other than the upfront fees they paid for a legitimate service which upfront fees have been promised to be returned as a credit by the Dorean Group. I have been threatened by no one, not my clients nor the government, other than a few threats by you and your kind on this blog. Go threaten someone else that can be bothered by your lies. I'm not affected by your rhetoric.

mogel said...

SOP said: "C'mon neo,
you lose credibilty when you say stuff like this."
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SOP: With all due respects, you can't lose something you NEVER HAD. Nemo, doesn't strive for excellence or perfection. That act of being the best you can be is some sort of cult like doctrine to him and is somehow unchristian in his mind. I don't understand why he thinks that it's some sort of soul saving grace NOT to strive for excellence or perfection & that to do so, one's soul is somehow lost. It is undeniable that Jesus said in Matthew 5: 48 "Be ye therefore perfect even as your Heavenly Father is perfect". If ye become someday perfect and all knowing, then what are you? Do Fathers want there sons to be just like them and would they be proud of that?

However, Nemo thinks he's saved in his natural and sinful state & doesn't have a worry in the world.

Nemo, asks the question how do you witness to a Mormon, but I think a better question is, how do you motivate or inspire someone that ENJOYS settling for mediocrity and who enjoys accepting lies by the bankers in his MINDLESS STATE.

mogel said...

Nemo: As far as your moronic geography lesson is concerned and conclusions you arrived at just from reading a few passages, you need to first understand that the Jaradites, Nephites and Lammanite peoples lived in places ranging from South America, to Central America, all the way up to North America. They had plenty of time to migrate and populate many places, and the races came from and lived in MANY DIFFERENT places, not just the City of Moron.

neodemes said...

Don't get your shorts in a bunch, mogel.

As far as your migrating tribes BS, DNA tests have eliminated the possibility that tribes of the Americas came from the Middle East.

The premises you espouse are proven to be false.

You are also false in your assertions on both religion and Dorean.

Face it.

neodemes said...

mogel rambles:

"Second of all, I'm not necessarily accusing the banks of fraud, even though that's true."

What kind of double speak is that? You most assuredly do accuse the banks of fraud, over and over.


"I'm saying the bank is not the holder in due course, so the bank isn't damaged. If the bank isn't damaged, where is the fraud?"

4,000 clients renegging on their loans is bound to damage someone, moogie. Not to mention you and your cronies collected upfront fees promising free & clear title in 45 days, or whatever. It never happened and don't use the tired "bank bad behavior" excuse.

Do the right thing. Admit you were wrong.

god said...

Yawn!!!

mogel said...

Nemo said: "As far as your migrating tribes BS, DNA tests have eliminated the possibility that tribes of the Americas came from the Middle East."
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There's no evidence of that kind to prove your theory beyond all doubt. There has never been DNA tests on all things found to prove that such a possibility could never exist, nor can anyone proof your conclusion. YOur conclusion necessitates finding all hidden things too which is an impossibility. You might find some bones to prove it didn't come from the MIddle East, but that doesn't prove that a civilization couldn't have had their roots from the MIddle East.

You might check out the archealogical proof of a video produced by the Church entitled, "Ancient America Speaks" where many proofs are given of this origion.

There is actually more evidence to the contrary that America was populated by people from the Middle East.

There were many prophets in Jerusalem prophecying & calling the people to repentence before it was destroyed in about 600 B.C. Also ancient writings & writings of Josephus say that one of prophets that was there preaching of it's destruction was a man named Lehi, the same Lehi that traveled on a ship here to the Americas with his family who escaped the destruction & capture of Jerusalem by their enemies.

Do you think the pyramids in Central America similar to the construction of pyramids in Egypt is a coincidence & all the archeaological proof & books written on the subject was done by morons too?

You're no expert on this subject. Go talk about something you think you are an expert on something like say--- real estate. LOL

Tony Tuba said...

Has anyone here been in contact with the swami? He hasn't returned my e-mail for six weeks or so.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "4,000 clients renegging on their loans is bound to damage someone, moogie. Not to mention you and your cronies collected upfront fees promising free & clear title in 45 days, or whatever. It never happened and don't use the tired "bank bad behavior" excuse."
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A very high percentage of clients are continuing their payments until there is a resolution to all of this. I doubt if more than 300 clients actually lost their homes due to stopping their payments either voluntarily or involuntarily. When Dorean learned that the banks would continue to do whatever they want & still foreclose despite title being taken from them, due to the best interest of the client, the policy was changed from stopping your payments to continuing your payments, but doing so "under protest" & stating that these monthly payments are "overpayments" that are expected to be returned by the lender upon settlement of the clients account.

The whole point is not to admit that the banks are owed anything when you become enlightened & know better. I won't give up on that point since the bank never validated that they loaned their own monies through producing the original unaltered promissory note, or through their own bank accounting records audited by a CPA of choice, because the lenders can't validate a lie, so that's why the banks were silent to the Dorean presentment in ALL CASES. One would think if banks legitimately took a financial risk & are capable of being damaged since they loaned their own monies, at least a few banks would want to eliminate any confusion & try to at least document the loan & where the funds came from, but alas, even that expectation is totally unrealistic in the real world.

Don't tell me the banks are under no obligation to validate a loan & produce requested records either because the UCC says differently.


If the lenders NEVER brought any equity in the transaction how are they EVER damaged? All monthly payments from day one is pure gravy to the banks, not to mention all of the other fees a bank makes from a loan, so don't tell me the banks HAVE to be damaged. YOu might say the Dorean process exposes the greed & lies of the banks.

My free & clear title was given & recorded by Dorean in less than 45 days, & Dorean Principals took a very high risk doing so & due to their stand to look after the best interests of clients are now imprisoned and their reputation slandered & family life taken from them. Is that honorable service not a cost that ethically should be paid by the clients even though clients have been promised a credit on these upfront fees paid, not out of obligation, but as a bonus in addition to their original agreement?

The banks just don't honor the mortgage discharge because they are greedy & always want more & have been dishonorable from day one; ever since the inception of their advertising saying they have monies to loan which was a lie.

The clients will get more from the Dorean Group than they bargained for in the end. Nemo, just admit that you aren't patient then & lack hope if something needs to be admitted to?

Dorean has negotiable paper (debt instruments) that can be sold & converted to cash. They'll get the job done when the time is right. This asset by Dorean can be sold whenever they want. They have chosen for whatever reasons to wait to finalize the sale of these assets they possess. I assume this has something to do with having leverage to get Dorean's freedom assured. I suspect the Dorean Group always considered the possibility of criminal charges being laid at their feet & even imprisonment as a possibility. I knew from the beginning what the trustees risks were & was more than wiling to pay the upfront fee in light of me knowing & acknowledging those risks.

Dorean had interested buyers long before now, but probably felt that 7 cents on the dollar wasn't a fair deal to accept. I even remember what country's government was even willing to buy these judgments & even know which individuals went to this country to look into finalizing a deal. People don't travel to a foreign country just for the sake of traveling if Dorean didn't know they had something valuable to sell. MOst clients didn't now what was going on behind the scenes. Don't you remember a passing comment from Kurt on this blog saying that "our government threatened a particular foreign country due to these negotiations to buy this paper"? Maybe you missed that comment along with many other comments.

Dorean is not going to be manipulated into a forced sale situation and get less than what they feel the negotiable paper is worth, due to being imprisoned unjustly.

The sale of Debt instruments is a huge & worldwide business even if you don't understand all of the ins and outs of this specialized market. YOu think you are even an expert on real estate and archeology and theology even though you have no degrees in either of these areas.

Dorean will get top dollar based upon the market for all clients in the end & wait until the time is right to finalize all of this. I don't care if you believe this or not. The time of finalization is closer than you think or will ever know.

My trust owns a house. To say that since the trust hasn't sold the house that it owns, makes the asset not saleable or even valuable is also fallacious reasoning.

The administrative judgment which is the legal paperwork that exists that has monetary value, just like a promissory note has value, can and will be sold for value, just like the house asset that exists which has value too.

Since you don't understabd UCC law or understand anything about negotiable instruments & the market for them, doesn't mean that there isn't value there, or that the salvation for all clients has ALREADY been assured, and that clients should just give up because it's taken longer than their expectations.

Again, such reasoning is your narrow minded view. Your narrow minded view even on religion or even archaeology, I don't accept either, so what's new?

I should give up because my view doesn't coincide with yours? LOL
Are you sure your roots didn't come from Nazi Germany? Maybe your more fascist than you give yourself credit for Nemo?

son of a prophet said...

"how does one witness to a mormon... (or anyone for that matter)


all you can do is try to correct (gently) with scripture.

BUT still, ULTIMATELY the HS must convict them of their false beliefs and convert them to the truth.

see, we all get into the problem of perfection, and its a difficult one to correct because none of us is perfect.

as long as someone confesses on his lips and heart to believe on yeshua, there is really nothing you can do, because altho we may not be mormon, we may have other inaccuracies with OUR beliefs.

for example, i am not catholic (was born one tho) but i cannot convince anyone of the power of the HS. this was given to me and i can tell ppl about it, but thats about it. the HS himself must convince other of His power.

so roman cathlics worship saints and statues BUT still confess to belief on yeshua, so ultimately through suffering, (which is how the HS teaches) they will come to complete truth and disavow saints and statues of clay.

mogel will be refined as will you of any false beliefs. as will i of any inaccuracies. i still learn everyday, even tho i feel that i am at a high level, there is still much learning to be done for me.

so i have come to realise this about others. as long as they cnfess to beleif in yeshua, the HS will do the rest thru suffering.

for example, an earthquake hits and splits you house in two...you think you now worrying about....you car, you house, you mortgage not geeting paid, what color you were going to paint you house????

NO. YOU WORRIED ABOUT SURVIVAL OF YOU AN YOU FAMILY AND FOOD FOR TOMMORROW.

the focus has just gottne narrowed to survival and if you a christian, it will narrow to prayer for survival.

this act (the earthquake) has just gotten you closer to yeshua and the HS. ALL OTHER THOUGHTS HAVE JUST BECOME IRRELEVANT.

tahts why in end times will be 'quakes, 'canes, 'nados, terror. etc. all this will bring christians who believe closer to yeshua and become refined like fine gold.

just like after 9/11. all of sudden, everyone believes and prays and all that, for about 6 months, then all is forgeotten and back to work and play, etc.

see,it was all phony to befgin with. they could care less about god. and when it happen agian, they will pray again for 6 months and then back to normal...

suffering causes refinement.

so basically, all you can do is pray for mogel to get more truth, as well as yourself to get more truth.

someday, he will come to understand taht smith was a false prophet, but that will be for the HS to show him, not you (or me)

as the HS will show you things that you formerly believed are not true, but this does not affect your salvation, or his, or even roman catholics who worship statues and saints. they too will see the light, even if just before death.

mogel said...

Nemo don't conclude & say that hope should be lost because the banks are still playing charades.

It's in the banks best interest to settle sooner than later because damages increase over time due to their continued violations and bad behaviour & the increased value over time of the assets that the lenders are encroaching upon. However,t even if the lenders don't settle voluntarily, they still don't have victory because they've never had the best poker hand in the first place.

In the end, the clients will be victors over the so called lenders because their own laws they have incorporated and live by, also condemn their actions.

The fact is that Dorean through what they have already done through their paper trail they've created, has already assured a financial victory FOR ALL CLIENTS, regardless of future events. That's what you don't see or are unable to see.

Things aren't always as they appear to be. I believe that the clients are in a much better financial situation after the dorean process than some believe they are in. All clients will eventually see this light too.

neodemes said...

moogie, I've never claimed to be an expert on any topic.

Kurt stated loud and clear it will all be settled by this month. I'm charitable enough to make good on his big mouth (for once) till the end of the month, before I call him and you a big, fat loser.

TTFN

neodemes said...

correction: to wait for him to make good