Thursday, November 30, 2006

The Plea Agreements

Plea agreements are contracts. I’m the contract expert in this case not any of these yahoos. I know what has been endorsed, what it means at law, and the benefits to the parties. Contracts are the money of this world. It is why the UCC is so powerful. All law is contract. How many of you signed a mortgage contract without knowing what was really happening? Well two can play that game and he who knows always has the advantage. You have heard me mention our 11 attempts at guilty and finally they have heard us. A trial is only necessary to settle disputed facts. No such situation exists here. Imagine we are playing Monopoly as friends. Our friendship is real. Now in the middle of the game you claim I owe you money and I call you a cheat. The facts are absolutely irrelevant to the true substance of our friendship because in reality you are not a cheat and I owe you nothing. The confusion some of you are having is that you haven’t made definitive lines between fact and fiction. I have and my decisions always reflect the clear lines I see. I play in both fields but never confusing the two. You think reality has made an agreement with reality and what is said on that paper is in reality relevant. Even Keller thinks so. That is why you are free to complain and I was enslaved to deliver. Robin Williams once poked his finger through an empty eyeglass rim and asked “what is reality?” It’s a very good question.

24 comments:

dgwondering said...

"I’m the contract expert in this case not any of these yahoos."

Right. That's why you're in jail and people have been screwed by your scam, because you're the "expert."

justice77777777 said...

we've heard this arrogance how many times before?

let's see, scott was going to be out in a week, and then you go to jail.
at least three times you said this would be over
the brokers would deal with a temporary distraction.
judge alsup will be removed.
settlements were due any day now a year ago.
the prosecutor is a goat.
you set a trap.
all of your solid motions are denied, including the appeallate level.

the list goes on and on, and by the few mentioned above, everyone can tell you have everyone right where you want them, "expert".

tcob247 said...

How dare you two question the expert

Yetter said...

The teacher is about to take the students for a few rounds.

god said...

I know what all the idiots are saying.....but theres something about this kurt guy that leads me to believe this thing is going to go his way.

Why do i know this? Well, its like in boxing when one guy gets a good shot in on the other guy and then the guy that took one on the chin starts getting cocky and trying to convince people it didnt hurt.

I think kurt (and God; of course) is about to put the oponent on the canvas.

mogel said...

Justice said:
we've heard this arrogance how many times before?

let's see, scott was going to be out in a week, and then you go to jail.
at least three times you said this would be over
the brokers would deal with a temporary distraction.
judge alsup will be removed.
settlements were due any day now a year ago.
the prosecutor is a goat.
you set a trap.
all of your solid motions are denied, including the appeallate level.

the list goes on and on, and by the few mentioned above, everyone can tell you have everyone right where you want them, "expert".
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There's no argument that the prosecution has a tough time in distinguishing reality from fantasy.

Once they realize the difference, things will go our way. Be patient!!

mogel said...

Kurt said: "The facts are absolutely irrelevant to the true substance of our friendship because in reality you are not a cheat and I owe you nothing."
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So you are saying it's irrelevant that you plead guilty and signed this in an affidavit? Can we assume that the signed agreement includes an admission of guilty on all counts?

Are you saying in reality you committed no bank fraud or other fraud because the banks lent nothing?

So since you aren't a cheat and a fraudster, the Court's can't prosecute you & give you a long jail sentence: "no harm no foul", therefore no punishment?

Why is the prosecution hearing you now after the 11th effort of pleading guilty when they couldn't see the facts from the fiction before? What's the difference or wherein lies the difference in them hearing you now? Is the 11th contract worded differently from the other 10?

Why is there no controversy at this point in time as you say a controversy is necessary for a trial to happen? What has recently taken place to totally eliminate any controversy or misunderstandings between the parties?

What are ALL the implications of the agreement that you & Scott signed?

Is the prosecution & the Judge AWARE of all the implications that exist?

12:33 PM

GR82BMOI said...

Why does Mogel form all sentences as questions? Is he deliberately trying to annoy all the intelligent people that post here? Or, is he trying to suck up to Kafoolee? Why are Mogel’s questions always so stupid? Is Mogel the biggest idiot posting on this blog?

near the end said...

NO U ARE.

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
There's no argument that the prosecution has a tough time in distinguishing reality from fantasy.

Once they realize the difference, things will go our way. Be patient!!

ok, so lets get this straight. now you are telling us that not only does the prosecution control what goes on in judge alsups court, but they also control the appellate court as well, is that correct?

Yetter said...

K,S and friends. Scoma's for lunch?

mogel said...

Great to be Me said: "Why does Mogel form all sentences as questions? Is he deliberately trying to annoy all the intelligent people that post here? Or, is he trying to suck up to Kafoolee? Why are Mogel’s questions always so stupid? Is Mogel the biggest idiot on this blog?
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't your last post COMPLETELY FULL OF QUESTIONS WITHOUT EXCEPTION?

I'm glad to know I didn't annoy you by my questions.

mogel said...

Justice said: "ok, so lets get this straight. now you are telling us that not only does the prosecution control what goes on in judge alsups court, but they also control the appellate court as well, is that correct?"
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I think all of those entities are playing on the same team in this particular case, although they may appear to have different interests or differnt functions.

mogel said...

With a 97% conviction rate, they must have alot of control.

papa_dont_preach said...

Yetter, can you provide an address so that I can google map it?

Wouldn't want to miss that lunch. ;)

Yetter said...

Papa, its a dot com.

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
I think all of those entities are playing on the same team in this particular case, although they may appear to have different interests or differnt functions.

you "THINK" and they "MAY"? thanks for the explanation. you just said a mouthful with your answer to the question. thank goodness that we know all you say and feel to be truth and fact! Whewww that makes us feel soooooo much better now.

whataboutjere said...

Anybody know if libo got shut down? There number don't work no more 212-990-8000.

neodemes said...

212-990-8000

KYHOOYA said...

GR82BMOI said...
Why does Mogel form all sentences as questions? Is he deliberately trying to annoy all the intelligent people that post here? Or, is he trying to suck up to Kafoolee? Why are Mogel’s questions always so stupid? Is Mogel the biggest idiot posting on this blog?

1:23 PM
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Here I have something for You to suck up to.

Thank you for the mention as you know that s why I'a here for you acceptance.

Not!

Kiss off drip!

You think alot about your self don't you? being how you self proclaim to be of some intelligence. I would say a very little sum.

Did you have a point on the topic or was it your intention to drop in and disrupt instead?

Once again the light shines on why most of the neysayers like this one are here, only for the sake of trying to cause the flow of information to stop or be deverted so not to have any gain in a upward direction .


I ask this again: what good comes for the client or anyone for that matter if the dorean group loses?

what gain iis there for the bank's if the same happens ?

why is itso hard for people to see that the bank's have broken their aggrement by fraud and the cause of it is do ti their braking the law .
The law states the the bank's can not lend you their credit they have to fund your loan by use of their own money BEFORE THEY SELL YOUR NOTE if they don't do this the accounting will show it and the banks will be braking the LAW there by VOIDING THE CONTRACT .

That is if the banks were made to follow the law like the rest of the world has to without sidesteping or what ever other way they have to not.

Boy I wonder why it is that anyone of any power that has gone up against the banks in our history heve all beeen killed or at least they had an attempt at it. that fact is easy to look up now is'nt it?

What a cheese ball for a brain you have if you can not understand what the fuck is going on with all this. No wonder you jump right in with both feet when someone tell you to without ever checking it out or waiting to see what is going to happen. Know there was no way you were ever in trouble with your loan before you got involve with this process and all you troubles stem fro there after ... Sure they do ! you keep telling your self that and one day you'll be able to look in the mirror and beleive it true, but by then the whole country will be screwed and it won't be of to much comfort in all.

KYHOOYA said...

dgwondering said...
"I’m the contract expert in this case not any of these yahoos."

Right. That's why you're in jail and people have been screwed by your scam, because you're the "expert."

7:32 AM

Hey I was just wondering their dg. Do you beleive everything you hear on " ASSEEN ON T.V." or do you just pick somethings and roll with those?

exactly what was the screwing you speak of here how the court's put restraining orders and injuntions in place to stop dorean from doing anything . How the feds lock up the bank accounts that I sure no one will eve see that money ever again no matter what the out come is . Or is it how the judge took and put his own feelings before that of the law and due process and deemed this a scam and would'nt even hear the defence side of thing. Even went as far as to fine the lawyer to make it clear that anyone who might want to stand up and rep. these guy's will have the ball's cut from them in his coourt room. Because he dos'nt like this deal one bit and thats what he was told to think and dan nabit he's going think that way come hell or high interest rates .. oh I mean water. What he says is the NEW LAW AND ORDER in town no matter if it goes against all the other writen law there is.

Is that waht you mean by screwed ?

Because if it is then I with you on that.


Wake up people and go find out for your self what is truly going on here . Imean for real find out without someoone telling you what it is or what they think it is so you are sure about what it is you are standing for because if your wrong about it your are making alot of change based on hear say and that change will be in place for a long time to come.

remember we only borrow this world from our kids and what we do today they will have to deal with Good and Bad .
like if you throw your garbage on the ground they will live in a garbage can as if you don't learn and make your choses based on the truth and understanding about it will cause them to pay for those choses .

they could be hard to live with and some legecy to say the least.

don't go through your whole life thinking that just because the larger group is saying that it is right or that the Gov't tell's you iit's o.k. that you can go along with it with out worry cuz I telling you it;s not ever the case that the powers to be are willing to just syep down and go with out a fight when their call to do so as in the FRB do you think thatthey would just say oh you want us to give up all that money and leave cus you don't think it is woking out for the country anymore ..oh sure will go just let's us pack a few thing's and will be on our way. Is that how you see it happening?

Cus we have to agree on this that the feds can't go on the way things are now forever right?

so how do you see it if you don't think their going to put up just a bit of a fuss about closing down here?

It's a simple set of rule they follow and we are a simple bunch to make do what they want all's they have to do when something goes wrong is follow that simple plan if we do this they do that and if we do theat they do this and we act out in the same way every time simple little people to menipulate really we are and now aday's even easier for then with all the people stuck in front of that box watching all the REALITY T.V. cus real life is just to boring.

how hard is it to get us to beleive anything ? really ? how hard ?


Just because the guy's did'nt make the best chooses in the way they went about this dos'nt meann they were out to screw you it just means they are people and they make mistakes to.

Hey but they were your best freind at the start when you had the mind they were goiing to get you your house clear and free and with out any fuse right ?

You might have been thinking you would sell this to you family and freinds to profit by it your self all bet. who knows all i do know is this I have do the leg work and the law is the law and the banks are getting away with not following it as they expect us to and they are getting away with railroading these guy's for finding their loophole and acting on it in a big way.

You want a bett had there not been such a following there would have been a whole nother outcome to how this story went.

but you might want to take the time like I said to find out the real story for your self instead of what the courts or the feds or dorean tells you then you'll know and can make the right choose about it and be able to live with the mind that at least you did the best you could and with as much info as possable . Now who could fault you for that right?

that's it! Not much to say today hahahah, lol

l8r
q8^]>- x|=========\/

KYHOOYA said...

justice77777777 said...

A hole lot of crap but we know what it is so we expect it from you.


Hey do you think everything that the court tell's you is the truth ?

Do you think that everthing that the cout does is good and the right thing?

Do you think if you answered yew to the questions above that you might be a little one sided in you thinking about this and for that matter that you might have you head just a bit to far up the but iof the system?

just wondering what you might think about this , thats all.



l8r

You think you self to important and somewhat a asset to the legal system when if fact your nothing more than the lemming in facto.

justice77777777 said...

KYHOOYA said...


whatever you just said to me, thanks! I think????????????

tcob247 said...

Kahooya said

"Once again the light shines on why most of the neysayers like this one are here, only for the sake of trying to cause the flow of information to stop or be deverted so not to have any gain in a upward direction ."

Am I missing something?
What flow of information?
If there is none, how can it be stopped?

No gain in an upward direction?
Do you need to take viagra again Kahooey?