Thursday, December 14, 2006

You’re All Retarded

One of the greatest misunderstandings about Dorean is what truly educational significance it has. All your lives you have professed yourselves economic retards. You are incompetent merely taking up space. Of course knowledge of God would lead to wisdom to see the truth of the value of a man among other truths but you created a Christ out of your retarded minds instead of listening. That is why I oppose these fools here friend or foe because they are the greatest retards when they even embrace the tolerable religion of their slave masters. The true Christ teaches you that you are truly a slave so you can be a son in training to master. This crap displayed here is retards claiming to be masters while professing their incompetence. They have not even the adolescent wisdom of the world to see their true state. That is why they can easily judge me falsely and act as false profits. They are blind to their own imminent peril but can see mine clearly. Please! Dorean was a start to finish hands on lesson how to be the master, the creditor in all your affairs. Even with my constant encouragement and faithfulness in remaining the teacher you piss and moan because I can’t do it for you. The classic evidence of a retard. They won’t take responsibility for their own affairs. I did not take the trustee role to be your caretaker for life. I was willing to nurse you out of your incompetence so you could function as a creditor and prosper. Unlike patriots and conspiracy theorist I see the design of the enemy and the brilliance in it. You won’t destroy it to hope so is retarded. You must learn to use it an make it a tool of your competence. It was designed that way to separate the weak from the strong. All those men you fear judges, lawyers, FBI agents, IRS, media these are all retards, absolutely no threat to the creditor. Here’s my question to you, are you ever going to stop being retarded (TV sports, politics, world news, blah, blah, blah!) and become the master? Learn how to own property, rights included. Slaves own nothing. Children own everything even while they are learning to master. I will continue to teach once my retarded debtors cave which won’t be long. Even if it takes longer the creditor always outlast the debtor. That’s the nature of economics. Creditors never doubt. They always defend their rights. Debtors lie and cheat because they have no rights, title, or interest. They can only live as a parasite on creditors who become retarded. Like a virus that attacks as habit it does not know which immune system is healthy until it proves so. Want to be immune? Then get healthy. Invest in your well-being and follow the Dorean lead. If not enjoy being retarded but have no great expectations of a creditor.

43 comments:

justice77777777 said...

Even with my constant encouragement and faithfulness in remaining the teacher you piss and moan because I can’t do it for you. The classic evidence of a retard. They won’t take responsibility for their own affairs. I did not take the trustee role to be your caretaker for life. I was willing to nurse you out of your incompetence so you could function as a creditor and prosper.

if this is true, then why did the trust application say that we will do everything to keep you out of the "repudiation process"? this means you were going to handle EVERYTHING for the clients. Is this another lie?

Pauligirl said...

newgurl said...
hey Neo, with all your saved quotes you have.

do you have the one with any Dorean agent claiming a 'proven process' in it?

curious

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There is now a PROVEN legal and moral way of eliminating your mortgage while adding $32k* to your pocket.
http://www.ccrsolution.com/index.php?
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All those websites are gone now. But all you have to do is go to google and type in "a PROVEN legal and moral way of eliminating your mortgage" and see what you get.

neodemes said...

Kurt, you raving fool.

There is nothing in this world that does not belong to God.

You mishandled stewardship and you are a ward of the state. You encouraged others to mishandle stewardship and many lost their homes.

Now you wash them all with the same broad brush - "You're All Retarded"

There you have it folks. Now you know exactly what your chosen savior thinks of you.

Drink deep of the bitter cup you have freely grasped.

neodemes said...

Newgurl -

http://web.archive.org/web/20050209171427/www.ccrsolution.com/about-us.html

;-)

Scroll down.

My favorite part:

We Have Over 600 "FREE & CLEAR" TITLES TO DATE.

LOL

mogel said...

Justice777: How did you participate in the "repudiation process"? Are you assuming that this "repudiation process" will never end?

mogel said...

Nemo: Since when is it being a good steward to believe in a lie and perpetuate that lie for further generations?
Isn't that slavery, not good stewardship?

We all agree that Christ created the world and has ownership to it & we are mere stewards, but you must also admit there are also creditors and debtors.

How can you read the same words and think that "all are retards" referring to all Dorean clients?
All are retards that believe in the same lie that they are the debtor when in fact they are the creditor. If a client truly believes that, he wouldn't whine and moan or find fault with the Dorean Group.

That brush you speak of applies to everyone whether they are a client or not that chooses to believe a lie and be enslaved by their own ignorance and to be manipulated due to their own ignorance.

mogel said...

Justice777: I hate to break it to you, but only retards expect everything to be done for them.

Maybe you should take your own advice & have your mental retardation checked again. It might be getting worse.

neodemes said...

moogie -

Long before Dorean reared its impotent head, the principles of finance have been laid out in God's Word.

Proverbs 22:6-8 (King James Version)

6Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

7The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

8He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail.

son of a prophet said...

neodemes said...


"Such language from a good Mormon boy."


c'mon moog,

i hate to agree with neodemon, BUT he is right here.

you cant let this s**t, i mean stuff get to you.


keep you cool, as you have been doing; you will be vindicated in the end. if this stuff is getting to you, then take a break for a few days buddy. i think you need a break, man. if you dont, then you are going to lest them win.

what good is it if the DG wins and then you have a nervous breakdown???

take a break my friend and come back in a few days-SERIOUSLY.

when this is over they will need people like you who have the knowledge; but you got to keep you head on straight.

take a break and come back in a few....

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
Are you assuming that this "repudiation process" will never end?

it has long since ended, unless their jail terms get "repudiated" back to the clients.

son of a prophet said...

YOU BESTER WATCH WHAT YOU SAY....IF SENTOR MCCAIN HAVE HIS WAY.....


YOU WILL BE HELD COUNTABLE FOR WHAT YO' SAY.....(LAYERS WILL JUST LOVE THIS; MORE LAWUITES FOR WHAT PPL POST ON BLOBS)....
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McCain's legislation could deal a serious blow to the blogosphere. Lacking resources to police their sites, many individual blogs may have to shut down open discussion.



http://www.infowars.com/articles/media/blogs_mccain_legislation_out_destroy_blogs.htm

son of a prophet said...

http://www.infowars.com/
articles/media/blogs_mccain_
legislation_out_destroy_
blogs.htm


above link for article

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mogel said...

7The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

8He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail.
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You know I didn't realize this until now, but isn't it interesting that verse 7 talks about the relationship between the borrower and the lender, and then the next verse talks about sowing inquity and reaping vanity and God's anger is against
something that involves the relationship between the alleged creditor and borrower, otherwise, the connection of the verses make no sense. Makes you wonder who
"will fail" in verse 8 or maybe it's clear to some. Isn't it the alleged lender: "the rod of his anger shall fail."

Who is sowing iniquity? The alleged lender? Or the alleged borrower who is allowing the lender to take control through lies and manipulation?

"The rod will fail." I like to think that the "rod" refers to the "tools" that the lenders have used to create a lie. Anything built on a shaky foundation, and not the words of Christ will fail.

God wants his people to be servants to him, not to some earthly system that is unfair and causes iniquity and that will fail.

Yetter said...

The excellent earnings from Goldman,Lehman, and Bear Stearns has put glee into the hearts of the heartless money changers that populate the trading floor.
"Credit derivatives are doing really well" said Douglas Burtnick, who manages 250 million at Gartmore Global Funds in West Gonshohoken, Pennsylvania."There are a lot of innovative instruments out there that are getting some pretty significant uptake in the market". Well thank you Doug.. I'll just pass on that on to Neo and Selective Justice 7, eternal supporters of an honest financial industry."Debtors lie and cheat because they have no rights, title or interest."

mogel said...

Here is a newspaper article concerning the history of the Dorean Group according to Chris Thompson that I found by following Pauligirl's suggestion of a google search:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rawilson/msg/1a6a5f48b80e9c1d?

I'll bet he'll write another article before all of this is said and done.

mogel said...

After this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rawilson/

Add the following to the link by typing it in the URL because it won't cut & paste properly:

msg/1a6a5f48b80e9c1d?

KYHOOYA said...

justice77777777 said...
mogel said...

So if Bill Julian isn't extradited & doesn't ever appear, then, does that mean that the Court date will be continued from 3-26-2007 to another date too?

Or maybe the excuse will be because Sarah Magoon doesn't appear?

Or maybe it will be due to some other "stunt" caused or filed by Kurt?

Who really is in control of the courts and the times toward resolution? The Defendants? LOL

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mogel, your starting to look pathetic more and more each passing day.

especially when your last few posts you ended them with "lol", but i doubt if anyone sees the humor. you are the only one "lol" at your own comments.

3:42 PM
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why is it that you never answer the question put to you with anything that could be seen as a real truth based answer?
You always have some sidestep of a post or put down to say instead of adderesing the real issue.

I find the fact that you do'nt answer the question a real eye opener to how the thinking of the neysayers and the way they will suport the court wrong doing when it fall's itto their way of want's and possably need's for the out come of this to favor the bank's

Why is it that the court has extended the trial date and or have found one way or another to keep this from trial; and doing so have not followed the right 's ofthe defendant 's in so the waiver of time not being waived and there by it should be 45 day's to trial or quit.

GO AHEAD AND TELL ME THE TRUTH OF YOUR BACKING ON THIS QUESTION OR JUST SIDESTEP IT WITH SOME COMMENT LIKE "YOU NOT SPELLING RIGHT OR i SKIP PAST YOU R SHIT OR I CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS YOUR TRYING TO SAY OR ASK. GO AHEAD TO DO SO SHOW' ME AND OTHER THAT THERE IS NO GOOD ANSWER TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS HAS BEED GOING THE WAY i SEE IS A CRIME OF THE RIGHT'S OF ANYONE NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE DINE WE HAVE RIGHT DAM IT IF YOU DON'T WANTTHEM THEN YOU CAN GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT DOES WAHT IT WANT'S WHEN IT WANT'S ..
HOW ABOUT THAT ..

THE FACT PLEASE AND ON TOPIC PLZ AND WITHOUT ANY OTHER CRAP AND PUT DOWN'S PLZ OR GIVE UP AND GO.

justice77777777 said...

KYHOOYA said...
THE FACT PLEASE AND ON TOPIC PLZ AND WITHOUT ANY OTHER CRAP AND PUT DOWN'S PLZ OR GIVE UP AND GO.

the "facts" have been told time and time again with the court record as proof, but you and moogie and papa please preach, and the like don't want to see things for what they really are.
the "facts" are the presiding judge told h&J to turn their efforts to a viable defense instead of this hogwash they keep submitting. they should look at this as a blessing to get their asses prepared for a trial that will happen, instead of this fantasy land belief that their will not be a trial.

those are the "FACTS".

now that was answered without any insults to anyone.

newgurl said...

Thanks for the link Pauli, and Neo.

So it is true that 'proven' WAS actually advertised and Dorean knew about it.
That doesn't sit well with me Mogel.

Mogel you asked in a previous post "did anyone at Dorean actually say it was proven"?

What do you have to say?

tcob247 said...

"IF YOU DON'T WANTTHEM THEN YOU CAN GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT DOES WAHT IT WANT'S WHEN IT WANT'S .."

What country you gonna move to Kahooya?

neodemes said...

God does not want folks in debt. Fair or otherwise. Period.

More importantly, God sent His only Son so none should perish, but have life everlasting.

Remove yourself from false teachings and put as much effort into spreading the Truth and Good News of God's Word as you spend spreading BS.

tcob247 said...

newgurl

Let me have a shot at what Mogel will say......

Those mortgages were indeed free and clear, it's just that those crooked banks wouldn't recognize it.
The process worked the banks are scammers


I bet it will be along those lines.
Mogel, I held my reconveyence in my hand.
The only thing worth doing with it was wiping your ass


By the way Mogel
Thanks for posting that link.
Now I have even less respect for King Kurt than I did before if that was possible.
Millins of dollars in Latvia huh?
While people were losing their houses

Rot in Jail Kurt

neodemes said...

Great link, moog. Thanks. I loved the part about giving Hanover properties a sight draft and making an FBI agent responsible for their truck payments.

Nothing shady there!

ROFLMAO

btw - learn to make a working link, will you?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rawilson/msg/1a6a5f48b80e9c1d?

neodemes said...

"Do not worry,about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." Matthew 6:25,32-33

mogel said...

Justice 777 said: "mogel, your starting to look pathetic more and more each passing day."

THE FACT PLEASE AND ON TOPIC PLZ AND WITHOUT ANY OTHER CRAP AND PUT DOWN'S PLZ OR GIVE UP AND GO.
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That's right. I forget that there is a double standard here with you.

45 days from what date? Give me a break. 45 days have come and gone from all the other dates the court hasn't kept.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "Remove yourself from false teachings and put as much effort into spreading the Truth and Good News of God's Word as you spend spreading BS."
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Back atcha as you would say.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "I loved the part about giving Hanover properties a sight draft and making an FBI agent responsible for their truck payments."
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The FBI became the Dorean Group's fiduciary when they stole their monies through their confiscation. As a fiduciary, they should have paid the truck payment based upon Dorean's request to do so.

Just because you steal something doesn't allow you to do whatever you want with it, especially if you are directed otherwise.

mogel said...

Justice 777 said: "now that was answered without any insults to anyone."
_____________________________
No one ever said that you didn't know how to be civil if you put your mind to it.

newgurl said...

mogel, you completely avoided my question.

are you trying to make it sound like dorean didnt say it was 'proven process'??

neodemes said...

moogie,

I don't know who the fiduciary is for your brain trust, but, its time to make a deposit.

LOL.

mogel said...

"Millins of dollars in Latvia huh?
While people were losing their houses"
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Tycob, Do you also have less respect for the FBI who took $300,000 of Dorean's monies & apparently didn't help the foreclosed clients either?

mogel said...

Newgirl: I didn't avoid your question. I already answered your question before. You avoided reading many of my past posts or understanding them obviously. The process was never a cookie cutter method where a programed response could be expected for every lender. The Dorean Group never siad the lenders would roll over & die & give up without a fight, but you already knew that anyway, you're just looking for contention.

mogel said...

Justice777: Can a fact be presented as a fact, even though it hasn't happened yet? Like as you say it's a "fact" that a trial will happen?

It's a fact the trial didn't happen when it was suppose to or as previously scheduled. Sure you can say that times get changed due to circumstances. But how long is that going to fly as a legitimate argument?

If you look at the fact that K&S have pleaded guilty 11 different times & the court has rejected all those pleas, might indicate a propensity for a trial in and of itself maybe.

neodemes said...

$300K? Funny, original reports said $178K, didn't they?

Anyway, ill-gotten gain has a way of going sour.

We Have Over 600 "FREE & CLEAR" TITLES TO DATE.

Sounds like a lot of cut cookies, to me, moogster.

BS cookies.

neodemes said...

Just 90 more days!

Honest!

No kiddin'!

Seriously!

LOL!

w said...

newgurl, thats all mogel can come up with.

mogel said...you're just looking for contention.

So its ok to deceive ppl, and then just call it looking for contention??

what manmade religion are you again?

neodemes said...

moogiw would have gladly repeated his previous defenses of the 'proven method' lie, but tcob had him nailed.

Its a tired, old song, anyway, hard to dance to...I give it a 2.

newgurl said...

Is that your definition of 'proven process' then?

Pauligirl said...

newgurl, here's something else you might be interested in....from the ccr site

The "proof" they offer is reconveyances.
Look at them:
CCR Group has three (3) PAID Refinances as of March 31st, 2005 !!!
Date Evidence Available Only By Forum Registration
YOU MUST REGISTER TO THE FORUM TO VIEW MOST AREAS

NEW Full Reconveyance-Page 1- More In Forum
NEW Full Reconveyance-Page 1- Steve Gyman
NEW Full Reconveyance-Page 1- Don McPhail
NEW Full Reconveyance-Page 1- Alan Johnson
Full Reconveyance-Page 1- Farrel LeCompte
Full Reconveyance-Page 2 - Farrel LeCompte
Subsitution of Trustee - Farrel LeCompte


Gyman got his reconveyance in January. Nothing else has been filed. Guess he's still making payments. (Update–Wells Fargo filed a document 5/4/05 stating that the reconveyance was forged and fraudulent and re-instated their Deed of Trust . A foreclosure was started, but Gyman sold the property and paid Wells off.
McPhail actually made it to the refinance, but his first lender has filed a notice of foreclosure.
Alan Johnson tried to refiance in December, but the title company said no.
Farrel had to pay $8,000.00 in December to reinstate his mortgage.

But that information was never put on the website. They continued to hold out those "reconveyances" as proof that this works. Seems in reality, it's neither proof nor truth.

KYHOOYA said...

So let me see if I understand you correctly.
The information that you are getting about this is from the court record's and in your read of the case doc's you and that only you have made your mind up that the court is right and that the two guy's are wrong because the court said they are?

If that's is the caseI would have to ask you this:
Do you alway's beleive everything that is told you by someone or group, agency or the like that is in a possion of power or law and court fed, cop, judge, sheriff, hwy patrol and the list gose on as in Jailor, warden,clerk, (dirty screw)= Gaurd or any one that I have mist that is employed by the state county or gov't?
I ask this not to be a smartass (as is my nature) but to understand your idles and mind set around authority figures and the legal system in this country.

Withthat I will for the sake of time and typing aready go with some assumion on your possion in this as based on your post past.

If it is your mind set that the court's are alway's right and that's it then there is no further need to discuse this realy because with that way of thinking how could anyone show you something of a nature that may show the system may not be on the up and up.

Example: In the new just recently there was a judge who got 5 yr.

(I have to think this must havebeen more to the story than was printed as to convict a judge is no easy task)

It was discovered that he had been using a vaccum pump or Penis pump during the day's calendar for more than a yr.

Now I bringthis up as just to point a fact that the system has it's own misguided one. and that the cases that were on calendar well he was engauged in this activity will no doubt come back up and say that they were not given a fare trial or that amistrial will be declaired for this judge and his actions being what they were then he could not have had his full attenion on the case and what was said so there fore he could not of made sound chose when it came tiome for instucting the jury or wellmaking his on sentances and verdicts at the time.

Now again I ask you this as more a two part question and the same for any other's that want to answer it to because your answer will help show your mind set when it come's to the system and the court that you have many timehere said to be right and the two guy's are wrong based onthe judges record of the whatever was before him that day regarding this case.

So the question here is what do you think about this judge and the chose he made ? right ,wrong or moral or emoral or anything around that area of thought of this

2 what do you think about the sentece they gave him is it right wrong or to short or to long of one?

and last what do you think about the fact that there willl be cases that are found to be over turned and such or maybe they won't but I can't see how not. so do you think that the one that are convicted at this time should be set free because of his actions or not what about a new costly trial yes no and what about the sentanceing they got if not set free shoul it be lowered or not ECt.

The last question being the one higher on the list than the others. as for your real mind set around this.

I am not messing around and looking for anything but the way you might think in this regard so that I can understand your mindset and way of thinking when it comes to what's fare or not. Also it gives a good idea of how you may think when it is someone that is maybe in your mind that of someone that is never wrong or you don't question themand such.


The door's open for anyother's that want to give what they think in this case and show a little light on the way you view the courts and the system

The resone for this is because I have a hard time undertanding the people on here who are so much the onesided suporters of the banks and the courts without question to them and their motive's.
I have been hear from the start and i know that most are not stupid (well other than Tin Cuppy) I just could'nt help myself there. So with that said I have a hard time thinking that you can not see and read and look up the thing's that you do and not see the courts and what is the real driving factors around this case.


So I will have a better idea about that if you could plz answer the question's that i just put up and I will condence in the next post so to make it easier to read and see for everyone. I never said I was one to get to my point typing without many many words used getting there so hey sue me.

Now i am post to be as nice and as unconfrontational as I can be I would thank you to be the same in your responce as you just were in your past and that way maybe we can keep it that way in the future. Or not that is up to you again evryone involved to post in this way maybe we can get beyond the b/s and see what is real and not.
Now I will repost on the next post along with my thoughts about the way i realy think has been the driving force around the court' fed's and the system including the main body of bank's that are in volved in this so this post consider to be tha ofan warm up and the outline if uyou will


Coming up next the main attracion.

Oh if you did'nt catch it when i said that I can be a real smart ass by nature most times. Well now you have, I alsofind that when typing i tend to play on word's I not able to type at te speed my brain is working and being the
English major, Roadside Scholar and Academic Scholarly one you all know me to be here. You might understand what it takes for me to post lik ethis and be completly without derog comment's. (Wel except for tin cuppy I can't stop that and how can most blame me anyway) I mean you put him up the the light add tow sticks and you just might get enough light after striking ..... O.k> striking with match and the hollowness of his head becomes enlighten for a breif moment but read fast.

O.K. that will give himsomething to keep bust and now on to the clean page

KYHOOYA said...

Now my qusetion's are these
but first:

Again this is just to find some idea of the thought process and mind set of these who ost in there favoor of the court's and seem to do so without ties to the process but more so out of some connection to this whole thing by whatever means' ie: title comp. or loan officer, broker, banker, ect. the suporter's of the system that has jailed these guy's Kurt and Scott.



Justice 77777 and anyone else who care's to .


1. do you beleive that the court's are right about everything they say reegarding this case and in general are most of the time?

2 Do you think that by their very title they would never cloud the fact's or make it seem as if there was some wrong doing in a case?

Do you find that it's easy to see and understand the fact's that support the side that you are on in this case? Are these facts of the nature that anyone could understand or are these the kinda fact's that most could not ubnderstandwithout a law school ED or some form of legal working abckground.

3 Do the item's that you see as clear and can show how what and where as for the bases in the law book's or some larger case law to back it.

example of reverse: Judge is convicted and sentence to 5 yr. for using a penis pump or vaccum pump behaind the bench well in the process of his day to day calendar of court cases this took place for more thatn a year and it wasthe court staff that provided the needed testmony that used at trial.


4 Do you think that this judge should be let go or given more time?

5 Do you think that he was'nt doing anything wrong ?

7 Do you think he was able to make good sound choses well engaged in this activity ?

8 the chances are that many cases will come baack to court and some dismist and some claimed mistrial's over this what do you think is this o.k.or not like in the one who were sentenced should just stay there and that's it?

9 How do you think about this and the fact it show someone in the power set of the system is put up to show the what is he after this act?

10 are all the fact's that you ghave based you post and answers that of the court record's and that someone with in that system has said it to be true. Or is it that you have real hard copy record'a that show what you say is the truth and nothing more ?

11 do you think that the dorean group principals are that of men who are stupid or dumb by their schooling and or do you by reading ther posting's think them to be un-ED ?

11 The doccuments and the law that was used for the bases of this Dorean process were that of real based legal writings or not and what bring's you to this idea ?

12 if the fact's that are in play here are real legal ideas what do you think was the bases for the legal action going on now?

13 If the court is following the law the way it was writen and is expexted to be done the why it should be or is there part's that you see as not following the law and such ?

14 If you think that there are part of this jailing and the right of the guy's are being followed the right way can you explain why that is or is it just more of your own want's by the fact of being involved with that industry of banking and such ?

15 If the court's have been following the law in the right of these guy and that it has been all kust's doning as you have posted in the delay's then can you show by cut and paste or some other way the baeses fo r this and in the ame light if the law is followed than where is it that it read about the right's of one and the Due process and waiving time and the rules that are involved in it's admin.?

16 If the court's have been on the up and up without and dirty play and all the right as you see them are being protected and all by the court's in regard to Kurt and Scott how is ittat this has gone on so long if you say this to be the case then can you show case by case or item the fact' sthat suround them and the link to the law or case law that show's that the right's are indeed being carried out without any personal or byest thinking or inacment in this case ?

17 The few that have steped up in the show of support in this process have used the marketing of lies to sel this do you think that it is aome way out of proproion with that witch you find everyday on t.v. radio, or the paper ?

18 If the bases of your complant is mostly for that they said it was proven if they had not said this would you still think they should be in jail now and should they be treated the same or not

19 If you beleive that the court's are right about the infothat support this claim is all untrue then is that fact something that is supported by hard copy or just hear say?


20 I this case so far with e extradion and back the time of 19 month 's w/o bail and the rest of the real known fact that show this case are all done with the most care and do dilliegnce on the sytems part and that they are in know way miss guidied or misusing their power out of whatever is their motive?


So there you go just a few as it is getting early to late here and i need slep if you don't mind I would like to hear back from yopu on these it would give me a grat deal as for what you thinking is and all that o.k.

I will leave you with this as a summry of my thought's to add to you thinking when answering these.

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p.s think this why is the banking business one of that hides many thing in your deal with them and do so to get your money (cus no matter how they dress it when the broker gets paid it's you money when the bank's charge fee's or give you credits and gift's and anything in theway of any value to you it 's your money they give nothng away without knowing they will get it and plenty more back from it and yougo skipping along as if you just ot over or some deal that knowone gets ya right sure you did tTHE BANK'S LIE AND LIE ALOT THEY DO IT TO GET YOUR MONEY OR MORE OF YOUR MNEY THEY HAVE TOLD MANY A LIE IN FACT ONES I THINK ARE FAR WORSE THAN ANYONE OF THE CLAIM ABOUT 'PROVEN' THAT DOREAN MADE THROUGH ITS BROKERS AND YET KNOW ONE EVER BRINGS THA UP THEIR LIES CAUSE PEOPLE TO LOSE THEIR HOMES EVERYDAY BUT KNOWONE SAIES A WORD THE LIE EVEYDAY AND IN SO DOING THE CAUSE MANY TO BE CHEATED OUT OF WHAT TOOK THEM A LIFE TIME TO BUILD AND WILL NEVER BEABLE TO DO AGAIN AND YET THEY ARE LET ALONE TO DO THIS EVERYDAY AND KNOW ONE CRIES AWORD

The laws tha are in place are ajoke the bank's and broker's are geared up for any change that will effect them well before it takes place the system to say protect the customer is even a bigger joke and it is next to laugh able to see the hoop's that one is made to jump only to find that in the end there will be nothing of any reprisel to the bank or broker they will go on doing what makes them the most of your money everyday with fear of anything .

I been told 'I don't want ask them about those chaareges , you knoe I have to woirk with these guy's lonbg after this loans is done so just sign it and let's get on it just a bandaid loan any way it 's not that much money in the first place I charge way more for others getting the same loan." THIS AFTER HE NEARLY MOVE THE RATE TOWO POINT AT THE CLOSE.

yOU KNOW I MUST BE THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE THE BAD LUCK TO RUN INTO THESE GUY'S THAT MUST BE IT JUST MY LUCK .. YA RIGHT AGAIN IT'S IS MORE LIKE i HAVE HAD THE EXPENSIVE TRAINING TO NOW SEE THE TRICK AND LIES THATTHEY DO EVERYDAY AND GET AWAY WITH YOUR MAONEY

THE MOST DON'T HAVE ONE CLUE AS TO WHAT IS A GOOD DEAL OR NOT, iF THE BROKER MAKE IT SO THATTHE PAYMENT IS WHATTHEY WERE LOOKINF FOR THEN THEYSIGN AND THERE O.K. BUT THE FACT WAS THAT HE GAOTTHE PAYMENT AND THE BROOKER GOT THE ARGIN WAYNUP OR A PREAY LARGE AND THE YSP TO BOOT EVEN THOUGHTHE BUT NEVER EVNE KNOW'S WHAT TAT NUMBER IS OVER IN THE CORNER OUT OF VIEW OR VERY LITLE MAYBE YOUR SHOWN A COPY OF A hUD-1 THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT ON IT AND THE OLD SWITCH AROOO IS DONE SO IN THEHEAT OF SIGNING UP WARD TO 1000 PAGES YOU DON'T SEE IT THAT TIME BUT MAY BE LATER BUT HEY IF YOU DO ITS OK RIGHT THEIR BANKERS THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING THEY WILL MAKE IT RIGHT WON'T THEY ?//


suRE THEY WILL THEIR BANKERS AND THEY ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING


hERE II'll say good by with this quote for no
:

When you control all the money of a country , You care not what LAW'S they have or the like . You make and brake lawmakers amd the like you CONTROL EVERYTHING


so with that how could you not be of the mind that banker will alway's do the right thing for sure nknow kidding ....

The right THING FOIR THEIR OWN ACCT. AND WHAT WILL MAKE THEM THE MOSE MONEY DOING SO OTHER THAN THAT YOU FUCKED CUS THEY WON'T SHEAD A TEAR OR LOSS ONE NIGHT SLEEP OVER YOUR PROBLEMS UN LESS IT CAN MAKE THEM MORE OIF YOUR MONEY.

How can antone not see this ?

Maybe it' shas to do with a welll thought out system that was in powered to not teach you a thing about it and keep you right in the dark and that part is easy just look areond you evenright here at all the people that still don't have a clue or can only see the B.S they want them to vocas on instead of them looking at the banks tha waythey keep going.

ask you slf this what ws it that got this country into such a state of that witch put us into a depresion when the country was doing so well for so long what made us slide so far out of place tha would cause a run on the banks and whywas is so hard to fix it a ns so lonf you would think a giov't could crush counrties with a single bond could fix the little old mistrust they have from the people now could'mt they .


why is it that are Gov't is running around ith enough man power to train local cop's on how to handle a mass amout of the general public in the event of a brake down and the inactment of civil unhrest and marshal law all the way down to bring in actors to make up the large groupe the general public to be put into camp and dis armed if neededwhy is that the same Gov't could not find the man power to train and police the rebuild of Nwe O and they had to hire outside pri. armed gaurds to do this job at a cost to you and me of $300 per man per day and a total of 300 men brought in on a 1&1/2 year contract for that many with the look at the reducing after that butthe contract was intotal tim and still is for 3 years that is 32 mill a year for the cost 96 mill over the contract . I sure bet there are a few people in that area that could use the work and be traned just as well by the one's that were sent to oakland Cal. to train there cop how to do it and all with the extras brought in as actors for un rully poblic and arestees .detainees I meant.

wonder why the Gov't is so wooried about it's public becoming unhappy to the point of neeing to be disarmed and put into camp's to detain us pepole with full linactmentof our RIGHT'S I'M SURE RIGHT I don't think they would treat use like we did'nt have any right would they (Heroshimo) make you open your eyes alittle this witch I have take my time to post here is of the nature that make's me not one thin dime and I get nothing for it and i was not provolck in to by other 's making claim to some thing I did this for the only resone that is pur selfish one at that and that ws


My hope to have someone who understands that there are thing going on around them and are being carried out by our Gov't that make it seem that we are headed for a tome tha twill be in the more marshal law type and they are readig for this as I see it there is no resoneother than that for what is taking place today and the out right act's of some in power thatshow their concern with the future and the law to make them acountable for the act's they do toay will be those that will be our kidds to deal with and what will w say went that happens but


Neverseen-it coming who would of thouhjt this country could be filled in less that a hundered years with aenough people that are so stupid and brain washed to the point they can't see the same fucking thig that put them into a nightmare of a strving country with no work and mo money that hppened just before the nice feds were brought to power by are lack of fight and need of work . and food .


Can you not see this is the only resone for all of the events that are going on around us to day


You didnot hea this kinda stuff a feww yeares back and I know there havs been the tax stuff and the bankstuff floatinmg arounf but i.m talking about the other stuff like camps and training and all the rst that show their prepo for bad new's even if I wrong about who it iis or wht it is fore I bet what ever it can'y be good noway so again wake up and stop thinking so simgular and broden you rmind to see alll of the crap that they would like to pish away with the oh that s just crazy talk theres nothing going on.

that it rally for now there is just so much it make it hard to get it out there so maybe it wil make what ever it is not so bad for the younger gen but hey there getting ready abd don't even know it to JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE VID GAMES AND WHATTHE MAJOR TOPIC IS ON THEM.

ALL THING COME CLOACKED BEFORE THE HARMYOU CUS IF NOT YOU COULD SEE TEHM COMING RIGHT.

THE MEN IN OUR PAST THAT SAW THING NOT SO GOOD FOR US HAVE TRIED TO WARN US AND TELL US THE WAY TO SYOPT IT BUT THAT MAY BE MADE OF WORK AND HARD WORK GETTIN G IT DONE .. bUT WERE TO LASY AND BUSY WITH ARE NEWEST GAGET TO SEE OR HEAR THE WRRNING SO HEY TALKE ALOOK ANS SEE IT'S NOT SOME RDICAL TELLING YOU THESE THING'S BUT BEING LASY AND WANTING TO HAV ETHE NEXT BEST THING IN TOYS OR THE REST OF IT MAKE FOR A HARD TIME TO GETUP.

thINK i NUTT GO RIGHT AHEAD CUS THE FACTS ARE CLEAR TO SEE i DID MAKE THESE UP THESES AREE NOT FORCED ON ME AND THE DEALS IS THAT IT'S RIGHT THERE TO SEE JUST LOOK.

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