Tuesday, January 16, 2007

The Confused and Possessed (12-27-06)

Dorean followed the self-help remedy of an aggrieved party to the letter. Even if the bank thought they had a legitimate claim they failed to assert it in a timely manner. In a world of credit promises are assets. In a real monetary world promises are obligations. You see many on this site using monetary definitions in credit scenarios. If you draw it like line scale where zero is the fulcrum and negative is to the left and positive to the right it is easy to figure out. A promise to pay in a real money world goes left but in a credit fiat world it goes right. Fiction is strange to us in money matters because there is exchange and commerce always putting real products in our hand. Though the results appear the same they are not. In a real money scenario you would obtain the product with an absolute title. In the credit world you only obtain possession and use by privilege. Only because the real title holders are not asserting their claim do you get the milieu to remain confused. The UCC binds all fictional actors to the fictional commerce. When Dorean executed it upon the bank they were bound to it. Funny how obedience became a crime. What’s even more hilarious is comparing my two criminal cases. My first case said a promissory note was a security to be convicted this time it must not be. Oh to live in a world where coins have heads on both sides. That of course is American De facto Jurisprudence. Why would anyone want to argue in a venue of rhetoric like this. It only took me once to comprehend the insanity of the idea. Why should I not accept everything they say a true. Though all they speak is lies they are telling the truth. That is what is so bizarre about dealing with these knuckleheads. Let me use the BOP dopes for a moment’s example. They interfered with my case by the assertion of their statutory policy. Inherent in this act is legal determination that I had liability to their statute. No one anywhere swore out my liability. No one ever will yet they presume it exist. Without liability they accept charges on my behalf. This is a fiduciary obligation with liability attached. I demand damages and they claim foul. Now they testify in court that they are not my counsel and that all the terms of the contract have been fulfilled. They claim they have no liability while proving they do under their own oath. What is gained by getting every detail perfectly correct when the mass makes the point clearly. This is the microcosm. Out of 60,000 documents probably dozens of witnesses, 7 judges, about the same in prosecutors and not one testimony under oath that I have any liability to USC 18, 1341, 1343, 1344, etc. Without that every opinion is a lie without meaning. Until liability is a fact argument is unnecessary. It makes for good blog fodder but nothing judicious is happening. A trial is a farce. Does that mean they’ll stop it? No probably not but guilty or acquittal are no different and meaningless without liability. Think about it. I’m guilty of no liability. I accept! You’re acquitted of liability. I agree! See any room to argue? I don’t! This is the fine art of using the UCC. It takes a certain kind of wisdom stolen from the masses.

23 comments:

son of a prophet said...

"It makes for good blog fodder but nothing judicious is happening. A trial is a farce. Does that mean they’ll stop it? No probably not but guilty or acquittal are..."



i am not a profit, but i dont beleive that a tryal will occur.

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tcob247 said...

I'm not a profit either and I think you are an idiot

son of a prophet said...

tcob247 said...

I'm not a profit either and I think you are an idiot

didnt know that you could "think"??

glad to hear it1 LOLOLOLO!

son of a prophet said...

for stressed out people like tboc, relax, and have a bannana, (or 2)


Bananas
one every 4 hours.
After reading this, you'll never look at a banana in the same way again.

Bananas containing three natural sugars - sucrose, fructose and glucose combined with fiber, a banana gives an instant, sustained and substantial boost of energy.
Research has proven that just two bananas provide enough energy for a strenuous 90-minute workout. No wonder the banana is the number one fruit with the world's leading athletes.
but energy isn't the only way a banana can help us keep fit.
It can also help overcome or prevent a substantial number of illnesses and conditions, making it a must to add to our daily diet.
Depression - according to a recent survey undertaken by mind amongst people suffering from depression, many felt much better after eating a banana. This is because bananas contain tryptophan, a type of protein that the body converts into serotonin, known to make you relax, improve your mood and generally make you feel happier.
PMS - forget the pills - eat a banana. The vitamin b6 it contains regulates blood glucose levels, which can affect your mood.
Anemia - high in iron, bananas can stimulate the production of hemoglobin in the blood and so helps in cases of anemia.
Blood pressure - this unique tropical fruit is extremely high in potassium yet low in salt, making it the perfect to beat blood pressure. So much so, the usa food and drug administration has just allowed the banana industry to make official claims for the fruit's ability to reduce the risk of blood pressure and stroke.
Brain power - 200 students at a twickenham (middlesex) school were helped through their exams this year by eating bananas at breakfast, break, and lunch in a bid to boost their brain power. Research has shown that the potassium-packed fruit can assist learning by making pupils more alert.
Constipation - high in fiber, including bananas in the diet can help restore normal bowel action, helping to overcome the problem without resorting to laxatives.
Hangovers - one of the quickest ways of curing a hangover is to make a banana milkshake, sweetened with honey. The banana calms the stomach and, with the help of the honey, builds up depleted blood sugar levels, while the milk soothes and re-hydrates your system.
Heartburn - bananas have a natural antacid effect in the body, so if you suffer from heartburn, try eating a banana for soothing relief.
Morning sickness - snacking on bananas between meals helps to keep blood sugar levels up and avoid morning sickness.
Mosquito bites - before reaching for the insect bite cream, try rubbing the affected area with the inside of a banana skin. Many people find it amazingly successful at reducing swelling and irritation.
Nerves - bananas are high in b vitamins that help calm the nervous system.
Overweight and at work - studies at the institute of psychology in austria found pressure at work leads to gorging on comfort food like chocolate and crisps. Looking at 5,000 hospital patients, researchers found the most obese were more likely to be in high -pressure jobs. The report concluded that, to avoid panic - induced food cravings, we need to control our blood sugar levels by snacking on foods every two hours to keep levels steady.
Ulcers - the banana is used as the dietary food against intestinal disorders because of its soft texture and smoothness. It is the only raw fruit that can be eaten without distress in over - chronicler cases. It also neutralizes over - acidity and reduces irritation by coating the lining of the stomach.
Temperature control - many other cultures see bananas as a "cooling" fruit that can lower both the physical and emotional temperature of expectant mothers. In thailand, for example, pregnant women eat bananas to ensure their baby is born with a cool temperature.
Seasonal affective disorder (sad) - bananas can help sad sufferers because they contain the natural mood enhancer tryptophan.
Smoking - bananas can also help people trying to give up smoking. The b6 & b12 they contain, as well as the potassium and magnesium found in them, help the body recover from the effects of nicotine withdrawal.
Stress - potassium is a vital mineral, which helps normalize the heartbeat, sends oxygen to the brain and regulates your body's water balance. When we are stressed, our metabolic rate rises, thereby reducing our potassium levels. These can be rebalanced with the help of a high-potassium banana snack.
Strokes - according to research in "the new england journal of medicine, eating bananas as part of a regular diet can cut the risk of death by strokes by as much as 40%!
Warts - those keen on natural alternatives swear that if you want to kill off a wart, take a piece of banana skin and place it on the wart, with the yellow side out. Carefully hold the skin in place with a plaster or surgical tape!
So, a banana really is a natural remedy for many ills. When you compare it to an apple, it has four times the protein, three times the phosphorus, five times the vitamin a and iron, and twice the other vitamins and minerals. It is also rich in potassium and is one of the best value foods around. So maybe its time to change that well-known phrase so that we say, "a banana a day keeps the doctor away!"
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PS - BANANAS MUST BE THE REASON MONKEYS ARE SO HAPPY ALL THE TIME!

mogel said...

"My first case said a promissory note was a security-- to be convicted this time it MUST not be."

It's interesting that the naysayers have in the very beginning and even up to now, pointed out that Kurt is a con artist because he has gone to jail once before, for "securites fraud". Now Kurt is using that in HIS FAVOR. When life throws you lemons, make lemonade. Now, it appears that this experience and reasons of going to jail before, will only benefit him as a precedence to use in the courts, for the all important fight, the big one, he is in right now, the fight he was meant to fight.

The promissory note is the foundation of the lending transaction. The UCC governs this, not any other laws. If it is true that the Dorean process, followed the UCC to the letter of the law, then it follows that NO bank fraud was committed. If no bank fraud was committed, there can't be any proof that there was any mail fraud, or wire fraud, so there goes out the window most of the other charges or counts.

If there is no fraud of this kind, than any contempt of court is also OUT OF ORDER & IMPROPER, as also any actions done by the courts of shutting the business down, confiscating records, the FBI's involvement, the confiscation of dorean's bank accounts, and any slander and libel in the press that the process is a scam, & arrest and imprisonment of Kurt & Scott and the continued keeping of them in jail.

Now the prosecution is going to say that "other laws" were violated because they can't argue the UCC, but since these "other laws" don't involve the promissory note, the foundation of all of this, the prosecution is wasting their time with a trial or bringing up these "other laws", SO THAT'S WHY THERE WON'T BE A TRIAL since the burden of proof is on the prosecution, and why would the prosecution want to be embarassed? Since the prosecution can't prove damages, let alone swear so in an affidavit by anyone, there is no liability on the part of Kurt & Scott, so no sentence & no jail time in the future. No harm, no foul, no sentence, no victory, for the prosecution. Game, set, match, and win for the Dorean Group and settlement damages to follow for all clients.

mogel said...

"My first case said a promissory note was a security-- to be convicted this time it MUST not be."

It's interesting that the naysayers have in the very beginning and even up to now, pointed out that Kurt is a con artist because he has gone to jail once before, for "securites fraud". Now Kurt is using that in HIS FAVOR. When life throws you lemons, make lemonade. Now, it appears that this experience and reasons of going to jail before, will only benefit him as a precedence to use in the courts, for the all important fight, the big one, he is in right now, the fight he was meant to fight.

The promissory note is the foundation of the lending transaction. The UCC governs this, not any other laws. If it is true that the Dorean process, followed the UCC to the letter of the law, then it follows that NO bank fraud was committed. If no bank fraud was committed, there can't be any proof that there was any mail fraud, or wire fraud, so there goes out the window most of the other charges or counts.

If there is no fraud of this kind, than any contempt of court is also OUT OF ORDER & IMPROPER, as also any actions done by the courts of shutting the business down, confiscating records, the FBI's involvement, the confiscation of dorean's bank accounts, and any slander and libel in the press that the process is a scam, & arrest and imprisonment of Kurt & Scott and the continued keeping of them in jail.

Now the prosecution is going to say that "other laws" were violated because they can't argue the UCC, but since these "other laws" don't involve the promissory note, the foundation of all of this, the prosecution is wasting their time with a trial or bringing up these "other laws", SO THAT'S WHY THERE WON'T BE A TRIAL since the burden of proof is on the prosecution, and why would the prosecution want to be embarassed? Since the prosecution can't prove damages, let alone swear so in an affidavit by anyone, there is no liability on the part of Kurt & Scott, so no sentence & no jail time in the future. No harm, no foul, no sentence, no victory, for the prosecution. Game, set, match, and win for the Dorean Group and settlement damages to follow for all clients.

mogel said...

SOP said: "I'm not a profit either and I think you are an idiot

didnt know that you could "think"??"
____________________________________

You know SOP, you're absolutely right!! If you look at Tycob's short statement, there is no thinking whatsoever, just a statement, no reasons, no proof nothing to back it up of any substance whatsoever why you're an idiot, just an idle statement of judgment. NO THINKING WHATSOEVER.

Course we both know he doesn't think you're an idiot in reality, because in reality, he said he wouldn't come back to this blog again, remember? You just think he's there and said that. You just think me made a slanderous statement to you, but in reality, his statement doesn't exist. Only an idiot would believe that you are an idiot.

I think......therefore I am. I don't think....therefore I am not.

tcob247 said...

"You know SOP, you're absolutely right!! If you look at Tycob's short statement, there is no thinking whatsoever, just a statement, no reasons, no proof nothing to back it up of any substance whatsoever why you're an idiot, just an idle statement of judgment. NO THINKING WHATSOEVER."


LOLOL

I was wrong
You are both idiots

Excuse me for making a statement.

Isn't that what SOP does all the time? (if you can decode them)

At least I don't copy and paste all kinds of crap all the time.


Lets look at this carefully

Sop said:
"i am not a profit, but i dont beleive that a tryal will occur."

Mogel said:

"there is no thinking whatsoever, just a statement, no reasons, no proof nothing to back it up"

Were you talking about me or SOP?

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loooooooooooooonnnnnneeeeyyyyyyyy

son of a prophet said...

tobc,

even tho yo thik thet i am an idoit, i still luv yo!


"...but, I say to you, love your enemies; bless those who persecute you and spitefully use you. Of what good is to love only those that love you..." anyone can do that....

son of a prophet said...

this gotta be one of the best yet:

i just put $10 in a HYIPs

this program has the follwoing disclaimer in it: (and i am not kidding)



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tcob247 said...

Why did you put $10 in?

son of a prophet said...

its like buying lottery tickets which i also buy but have never won.

if its still there 6-12 months from now, then i can put in a little more and maybe its not a total scam.

tcob247 said...

good luck

by the way

did you ask the HS for discernment in this area?

mogel said...

"Until liability is a fact--argument is unnecessary."
_________________________________
So if the prosecution presents no facts, the Judge accepts nonsense
as facts, and sentences, based upon NO FACTS, then the Court also becomes liable for their actions. Why would any Judge put themselves in that predicament of liability?

Also, when is it a crime to act in good faith, to present a challenge to a bank, the bank doesn't answer, their non answer is accepted as a fact of all the issues that would justify a change in title and with no argument of the facts,
and through estoppel, it is shown or proven that the lender has no financial interest, so the trustee out of previous agreements and obligations that already exists,
between Dorean client and trustee,
and trustee and lender,
and agreement that
has been accepted and ratified
too, therefore the trustee
is so obligated to release the
lender's interest and record things accordingly and correctly. Since when is a settled case, suddenly a case for fraud?

Dorean played by the rules of the game, of notification, and proof of default of the lender,
so when is playing fairly, charged as a crime?

Lenders play the same game to get judgments against you, seize assets, and foreclose on real estate and evict you from property
all the time through your default.
Why does the alleged
borrower not have those same rights
to play this game of commerce.
Since when is exercise of those rights, suddenly a crime?

I'm confused where all the fraud came in due to this historical
scenario and why the
prosecution seems to think fraud
happened at all somewhere along the line.

All the prosecutions has done in their filing is saying that this game is a crime to play, but lenders who the prosecution suggests have been damaged, with no facts at all to support this,
play this game all the time.

I say, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

son of a prophet said...

tcob247 said...
good luck

by the way

did you ask the HS for discernment in this area?


LOLO! Of course not!

He would not anser such a trivial question, even if I asked Him.

neodemes said...

moogie oozes:

"I say, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander."

******************************

Forget the crow...your goose is cooked.

LOL

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mogel said...

"Until liability is a fact argument is unnecessary."
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Couldn't it be said that the "prosecution has stated a claim upon which relief CANNOT be granted", therefore, this is a defense to dismiss the case. No harm, no liability, no foul, no relief possible. End of story; end of case.

Kind of reminds me of a case where I filed a forcible entry & detainer against a tenant. She had left some of her property in the home, didn't return the keys to the house, and left, but said she would come back to clean the home. I knew she probably never would, since she broke every other commitment made, but I was uncomfortable about disposing of her personal belongings and later being accused of taking possession or improperly dispossing of her junk when real possession was at least in my mind an issue not really certain or established.

I entered the home, started making repairs, and filed a forcible entry & detainer since legal possession was kind of shaky I thought in my own mind, & wanted to remove all doubt so I filed the eviction paperwork. Course 90% of her stuff was taken out & what was left was her junk she didn't want. I ended up renting a U-Haul truck & putting all her stuff in it & taking a trip to the dump.

Based upon my experience with tenants, it is very common for tenants to leave their junk & take their nice stuff. They expect you to dispose of the junk at your own cost, but I didn't want her coming back & sueing me saying her junk was worth thousands of dollars or saying I had illegally took possession.

Course filing the paperwork I did was improper since deep down, I had to agree with what her attorney said, "I was arguing I didn't have possession even though I was there repairing the home & cleaning it up and I had turned the utilities on in my name. So I was arguing I didn't have possession, but I did have possession. Kind of like a coin with two heads. "See how far you get in court arguing that," her attorney said. In essence I had filed a claim upon which relief COULDN'T be granted. So it was immaterial that she had trashed the house, owed me rent, and left property at my house & didn't return the keys to me. The Judge probably would have entirely thrown my filing out of court, so I settled the day of the court trial. She cost me probably $12,000 in rent & house damages. My only victory was that I forced her to hire an attorney to defend herself & I cost her probably $5,000 + in attorney fees. She could have easily paid me the $5,000 voluntarily, without all the fuss & bad feelings & legal crap, but that would have made too much sense to do that. It made sense to her to say if I won huge damages in court, she would just immediately file bankruptcy & I wouldn't get anything.

I should have settled earlier & not waited so long & not waited until the last minute because that showed my weakness in my bargaining position. I should have filed a money claim, NOT a forcible entry & detainer which was the wrong paperwork to file.

Similiarly the prosecution in this Dorean federal case has done a simliar snafu, that will eventually bite them in the butt. They can settle now, or they can settle later. It will hurt them less, the quicker they settle.

Since I settled later, I ended up getting less money than what I was entitled to, so in essence I lost in most respects. Since I filed the wrong paperwork, I screwed myself.

I think the Federal Court prosecution team in essence has done the same thing. They are crying fraud, when no fraud exists & the Dorean Group has no liability under the relevant statutues in question, & the prosecution are purposely not rectifying their mistake when they know they've made a huge one. The more they continue this charade, the more they will see that there is egg on their face everywhere they look & even in places they don't even readily see.

The prosecution truly are "the confused and possessed". They have possession of their confusion!!! :o) Maybe that can be evicted, I really don't know.

son of a prophet said...

btw, its been 2 weeks now.

whatever happen to storys cheney/paulson story??

was it just a gaff?

nothing else seems to going on with it.

son of a prophet said...

guess that they must have told the tirbunal to wait a bit, until after the us/iran war is over.

they cant be busy testifying whan they got antoehr war to start shrtly.

get you popcorn ready, make sho yo cable is all hook up so yo can watch the us/iran war on the Controlled News Network 24/7, or CBS, CONTROLLED BROADCASTING SERVICE