Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Christmas Past (12-28-06)

Christmas is a holiday that has always represented the weakness of Americans. There is a ghost of all Christmas past that nobody wants to confront. My wife made commercials that sole purpose was to influence your mind. I only see the newspaper once a month and am never enlightened by the content. My grandmother was a General Hospital addict back in the Luke and Laura days while I was very young. I used to visit her and tell her what happened during the months of not watching with great accuracy. It used to amaze her but to me it was merely practical. Somehow I always had a sense about how the human mind works and how it is influenced. I’m not a bah humbug but this current trend of consumerism is like watching sheep bleeding on the way to slaughter. How many of you stop to analyze the things that are influencing you at Wallmart or the mall? There are engineers who know the smells, music, temperature, location, eye stimulus, vibration, subconscious, and other ways to reach you and get you to accept their agenda. Christmas is not sinister but reveals the epidemic of mental apathy that now plagues us as a nation. What is sinister is what the real leaders of the world can accomplish by this morass of easily manipulated flesh. They can have you fight over two puppet leaders who amount to the same thing as though different. They can make you desire an education and knowledge that make you stupid. People have committed suicide over taxes and statutes that didn’t apply to them. Marriages and families are destroyed by fantasy problems. Everybody slaves paycheck to paycheck and uses TV to relax. Hypnosis is very relaxing! Men who have the courage to take vengeance or obtain justice against the tyrants are vilified while endless tolerance is sanctified. We fight about imaginary rights none of us know how to defend. The hero’s of the past would be criminals today. Fat was vilified but skinny will soon be loathed. Do you have any original thoughts? Are you unique ready to brand the world with a special imprint or are you Mr. and Mrs. Jones? Look at this blog and look at the minds behind the comments. Is there any real debate or just worn out regurgitation? Does anyone truly want to learn? Sheepel just want attention and a pat on the back from other sheepel. Apple had a commercial where pc people were walking off a cliff and one lone mac user was walking against the crowd. If you are not experiencing that sense on subject matter far more important than products you need a check up form the neck up. People are buying gold, bankers are selling. People are buying Euros bankers are selling. People are voting bankers are getting representation. People are conditioned to be basically honest bankers are taught cunning. Are you starting to see the ghost lingering behind the holiday we have taken from personal accountability and soulish integrity. You are what you feed on. Give your brain some food for thought and try provoking some wisdom. Happy Holidays?

54 comments:

neodemes said...

This coming from the master of the greed gland?

LOL

son of a prophet said...

while you waitin' fo yo dg moeny....please...pass the veggies......


ALAN RUBIN, PhD, returns to support State and Federal research programs promising no risks to human health from the presence of both metals and organic pollutants in agricultural soils and materials, they prefer be called "biosolids" vs. sludge, that are being added to agricultural lands as a source of nutrients and as a soil amendment.
NOTE: "Organic Fertilizer" made from sewage sludge, is now EPA-approved for use on vegetables.





FRIDAY - JANUARY 18 - DOUBLE "Sludge Part 3" Feature:
CAROLINE SNYDER, PhD, returns on the "Sludge" issue to shed additional light on: The Integretiy of Science; Whistleblower Protection; Remedies.
Website: http://www.sludgefacts.org

Citizen activist LORRAINE POTTER details what has happened Campbell County, VA.
Website: http://www.stopsludgeva.com

son of a prophet said...

"ya, I'll have a tossed salad, extra sludge please...."

hmmmmmmmmmm..............

tcob247 said...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

snore


yawn

son of a prophet said...

US Attorney Purge?

Well, in legal circles, there seem to be two ways of reading the recent changes in US Attorneys. One way is to read it that US Attorneys who are not toeing the administrations line are being purged. The other is that it's a normal rotation of what might be called patronage jobs. Whichever, it seems to have its basis in the latest iteration of the mis-named "patriot Act"



Democrat Diane Feinstein says the total is now seven US Attorneys out.

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While the appointment of republicorps as US Attorneys is important because they can run federal grand juries (and investigate anything they want), we do notice the administration has backed off - a tiny bit- on warrantless surveillance. "bad laws are no substitute for good police work," Pappy used to say. Presactly.

see article below:

son of a prophet said...

this the dg us atty???





U.S. Attorney Ryan's Departure May Be Part of Bush Administration Purge


Justin Scheck
The Recorder


January 18, 2007



U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan
Christine Jegan
Just about the entire San Francisco federal bar figured U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan would be on his way out this year.

They just didn't bank on his departure being part of an apparent Bush administration purge of U.S. Attorneys.

Rumors of Ryan's departure have gained steam over the past year, as his first four-year term neared its end last July -- and since two Department of Justice audits knocked his management style and cited the office's flagging morale.

Then there was the fact that in recent weeks, law firms have been receiving resumes from Ryan and his top deputy, Eumi Choi, according to several sources.

But in a surprising twist, it appeared that Ryan may have been swept up in what some are calling a Bush administration housecleaning of several U.S. Attorneys -- and not a victim of the audits performed last spring by the Department of Justice's Evaluation and Review Staff.

Ryan spokesman Luke Macaulay had no comment on whether Ryan was leaving in connection with the audits. But Macaulay acknowledged that the decision was not Ryan's alone.

"Like all U.S. Attorneys, Kevin has always served at the pleasure of the president," Macaulay said. "It's a mutually agreeable departure."

Ryan sent an e-mail announcing his departure to attorneys in his San Francisco office.

"As my oldest son prepares to enter college this fall, I have been contemplating the next step in my career," he wrote. "After much thought, my family and I have decided that it is a good time for me to move on."

As of Tuesday, it wasn't clear what Ryan's next move would be, or who would be replacing him. One person with a large law firm said Ryan and Choi have been looking for jobs -- and sending their resumes out in tandem -- for at least a few weeks.

"They're not necessarily going together," the law firm source said. "He was being shopped around, and his resume has been sent out."

Since taking office in 2002, Ryan has embarked on several large and controversial undertakings. These include focusing his organized-crime unit on street gangs -- cases that have resulted in four ongoing capital cases -- and the seemingly endless investigation of steroid use in Major League Baseball. The BALCO steroids probe has encompassed several well-known ballplayers and resulted in prosecutions of steroid suppliers and coaches.

More recently, Ryan's office indicted the first case to come out of the nationwide stock option backdating investigations, as well as several large environmental cases.

Ryan's exit was first reported Tuesday in a Wall Street Journal story about an apparent purge of U.S. Attorneys by the Bush administration. The story followed complaints last week from three Democratic senators over a rumored push to fire a handful of top federal prosecutors.

"It has come to our attention that the Bush Administration is pushing out U.S. Attorneys from across the country under the cloak of secrecy and then appointing indefinite replacements without Senate confirmation," Sen. Dianne Feinstein said in a press statement last week.

She reiterated that sentiment on the Senate floor Tuesday, adding that somewhere between five and 10 U.S. Attorneys are being forced out.

San Diego U.S. Attorney Carol Lam also resigned this week, and on Tuesday, a spokesman for Republican Rep. Darrell Issa told a San Diego paper that Lam had been asked to step down.

WHO'S NEXT?

The Journal story took many in Ryan's office by surprise, and it wasn't until Tuesday afternoon that the U.S. Attorney sent the e-mail announcing his departure.

Ryan's message didn't surprise many in the local legal community, especially since Alice Fisher, the Department of Justice's criminal division chief, began looking into potential replacements for Ryan last summer.

Several people familiar with the communications said that Morgan, Lewis & Bockius partner Leslie Caldwell and Shearman & Sterling partner Patrick Robbins -- both registered Republicans and former San Francisco Assistant U.S. Attorneys -- were called, though the inquiries were described as "preliminary."

Those calls were not followed with formal interviews, and Justice Department sources say it seems unlikely that Caldwell and Robbins -- both of whom are better known for their legal experience rather than political connections -- are serious candidates to replace Ryan.

Who those candidates might be remains unclear.

"I haven't been asked," said Joseph Russoniello, a former San Francisco U.S. Attorney, active Republican and of counsel at Cooley Godward Kronish. But he said a string of departures isn't unprecedented.

"There were a number of U.S. Attorneys in my time who were asked to step down for one reason or another," he said. "We served at the pleasure of the president."

That statement was reiterated in a Tuesday letter sent by Richard Hertling, the acting assistant attorney general, to Feinstein and Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

U.S. Attorneys, he wrote, "may be removed for any reason or no reason."

That statement is unlikely to placate Feinstein, who pointed out that the Arkansas U.S. Attorney was recently asked to resign, and replaced by a 37-year-old Bush administration lawyer.

"We know that this is not an isolated occurrence, but we don't know how many U.S. Attorneys have been asked to resign," Feinstein told the Senate.

son of a prophet said...

starnge????


they metntion BALCO and other cases, but NO DG CASE????


wnder why????

the dg case was a farce, maybe???

hmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

tcob247 said...

son of a prophet said...
this the dg us atty???

Yes it is

Bush is getting ready to pardon Kurt and wire transfer billions into your account

Do you have your secret bank account yet?

If not..........

Please send $149 to Dr Fred and he will get you set up.

Hurry!!!!!!!!!

This should all be wrapped up by the end of January

son of a prophet said...

full article here:

http://www.law.com/jsp
/article.jsp?id=1169028144620

mogel said...

Tycob: Where did you get the idea that one has to set up a secret bank account? That is not necessary, nor is it necessary to pay anything to Dr. Fred if you have all of your trust paperwork already, many clients do. You can set up a trust bank account yourself anywhere you want in the U.S.

Some people set up trust bank accounts even before all of this talk of settlement monies anyway.

Is everything a joke to you?

On another note, it looks like Kevin Ryan was never meant to finish anything:

"Ryan's message didn't surprise many in the local legal community, especially since Alice Fisher, the Department of Justice's criminal division chief, began looking into potential replacements for Ryan LAST SUMMER."

KYHOOYA said...

tcob247 said...
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

snore


yawn

6:04 AM

***********************************


I see that your word is as good as it alway's was and that would be in reference to your statement's made here that went something like this.

"I give up there's know use trying to get through to any of you and I have wasted enoughtime here already. I have better thing's to do with my time than spend it here."

I guess you don't have anything better to do and you like spending your time trying to push your distain for anyone and anything that might be the least bit out of the box or over that pea brain of your. I say this only because of the fact that your posting more and more of that dribble that could only be had by years of backwords brainwashing.

You are one to be studied if not for anything of use but for the hope that some day they will find out how to stop what ever it is that causes you and others like you to post the comments you do.
It is quite scary to think that you go through life in such a way as to follow anything and anyone who can put two rock's together rub them in till they are become brite any shiny and then in one big display of showmanship (or better yet anything equil to that of of street performers trick shell game) they get you to go along with what ever it is they want to have you believe and before the dust settles there you are ready to be the perfect nieve by stander who unknowingly help's them convince passer by's that they really can win at the con because look you can do it almost every time. As you show them how you can find the joker out of the three card (noy really but your convinced you can and that good old street con is more than happy to make be the card you pick and pay you that tid-bit sucker money) I mean would be a good convincing act if you did'nt think it was all your 'gifted' skill that has you finding that card 2 out of three times now would it?

I have to wonder sometimes how people like your self ever stand to look at themselfs with the lacking of effort to resurch or find a real fact on their own instead of always trying tocut ahead in line so they can say they were the one who thought of it , made it, got to it, or any number of way's to say it but it all come's down to one thing and that is you want to be the Big Shoot without have to do the work it takes to really understand what it is your bosting about.
I would have to beleive at the belittlement or expence of anyone you can just as if you were that guy standing there next to the conman never the wiser as you play the big shoot who keep's showing every passer by that 'Your The Man' cus you got whatit takes tio find that card almost everytime. At least you have know proble getting back up on that from your new best supporting friend and puppeteer that is.

You know what I'm saying here? you just never know you might suprse your self and just think if take the time to learn a few things for YOURSELF when someone starts to play you like a fool to be a fool you'll know the rael geal and just might not follow the path your used to taking (you know the one I'm talking about right? Right the same one you've taken all your life. Quit looking over the shoulder for the answers to the test and do it your self for once.) you just might need that info that your not learning.

son of a prophet said...

pres to fight against new world order.

what!??


January 18, 2007 posting ... join me tonight on my weekly radio show as i talk about the deadly chess game of oil and wars that is playing out as i write this and how the little monkey (GEEE DUBYA) and his merry band of incompetent side kicks have really messed up the New World Order bunch plans ... and it all comes back to the fact that there is oil in great abundance all over the world ... they are in a deadly catch 22 situation where they are desperate people who may make some desperate moves ... as chavez controls world oil prices and production from venezuela and the the new world order bunch plans to control south america is quickly falling apart ... while the new player ... a trillion barrels of canadian sand oil comes on line and at a decreasing production price that by the way ... eliminates the big international oil corporations from that equation including the large international shipping of mideast oil that is a huge portion of the oil corporation profits (as in oil tankers named after condi rice) ... so listen as i describe the dire situation as the little monkey has really bottomed out the new world order plans ... even donald trump is angry and demanding a quick solution ... but a you will see ... there is no solution due to the mess we are in ... i will talk about the science of comet c/2006/P1 McNaught as the main science topic ... and big energy efforts to keep low cost wind energy off line ... jim mccanney

son of a prophet said...

does any US Jibroneys read this bog???

son of a prophet said...

another article, still no mention of DG....




Yardsticks of Success?

The Recorder
By Justin Scheck


March 8, 2006


It's easy to imagine U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan's dismay last week when he heard that a longtime prosecutor had written the Justice Department with harsh complaints about his management of the office.

But the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of California couldn't have been surprised. Criticizing Ryan's management has become a cottage industry since he was appointed by President Bush in 2002, with prosecutors, defense lawyers and at least one judge complaining about office management and the handling and selection of cases.

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Just over the past 15 months, Ryan has endured two withering letters from subordinates, a string of attorney departures and two embarrassing Justice Department investigations — one looking at his firing of a top administrator, the other into the handling of a drug case that featured a Drug Enforcement Administration agent melting down on the witness stand and pleading the Fifth last fall.

All of that is now being pushed in front of a group of Justice Department evaluators performing a comprehensive audit of the office — a process done every three years, but which has gained a heightened sense of importance thanks to the soap opera of discontent in Ryan's office.

The sharply worded letter by Assistant U.S. Attorney George Bevan Jr. expresses critics' hope that the review — known as EARS, since it's performed by the Evaluation and Review Staff of the Executive Office of the U.S. Attorney — will take Ryan to task for dozens of attorney departures and rancor among some longtime prosecutors, perhaps to the point of affecting his expected renomination later this year.

But while Bevan's letter to the head of the Executive Office harshly judges Ryan's management and blames him for "an unprecedented exodus" of attorneys that's left the office "in crisis," it says little about how Ryan is performing his job.

That's a more complicated question than whether Ryan rubs some the wrong way. Judging by the raw number of cases filed under Ryan, whatever discord there is within the office hasn't much hindered the development and filing of cases. Information compiled by a Syracuse University data service indicates that while some categories of prosecutions, including white-collar cases, have declined, others are booming. Reflecting a push to combat violent street gangs, for example, the number of organized crime filings quintupled between 2003 and 2005.

Ryan's spokesman and one of his top prosecutors said they can't vouch for the Syracuse numbers, and don't know how they were compiled. Mark Krotoski, the acting criminal chief, said last week that the office doesn't track the numbers itself, but disputed the apparent 50 percent drop in white-collar cases since 2002. By comparison, national white-collar filings fell by 20 percent during that period.

Krotoski said he believes that white-collar prosecutions are not down in the Northern District, and even if they are, that wouldn't reflect the quality of cases being brought.

"I question a numeric approach to fighting crime, and we have a track record that speaks for itself," Krotoski said.

HARSH ASSESSMENTS

Lawyers in and out of the U.S. attorney's office were surprised by Bevan's Jan. 13 critique, and not because of the strong language — through 24 years in the Northern District, Bevan has become known for sending off-the-cuff communiques within the office.

What is striking, they say, is that Bevan took those complaints outside the office, taking the risk of making it look bad to outsiders. Bevan himself would not comment on the letter, nor would he provide a copy. "I can't talk about that," he said when reached by phone.

In his letter, the prosecutor blames top office management for a string of departures: "The departed AUSAs include top-notch, experienced prosecutors whom I believe would have remained in the office but for the gross mismanagement of the office."

Bevan's letter doesn't describe what those management missteps might be. But, he wrote, the defection of more than 40 prosecutors from the 85-lawyer criminal division since 2002 "has caused serious long-term damage to the office and its infrastructure." He also asked that EARS reviewers contact departed AUSAs to ask about management.

A Marine platoon commander in Vietnam, Bevan is known as an aggressive prosecutor specializing in gang, gun and drug cases. Lawyers within the office said that while Bevan has always been extremely loyal to the department, he has felt alienated for some time, since Ryan demoted him from a supervisory position shortly after being appointed.

And last year, while Bevan was on leave after suffering a heart attack, prosecutors released a key defendant in one of Bevan's gang cases.

Ryan spokesman Luke Macaulay said Ryan didn't know about the letter until last week. But its criticisms were not new.

A letter similar to Bevan's was sent around the office by former AUSA John Hemann as he left in January of last year for a partnership at Morgan, Lewis & Bockius.

"People in the office — lawyers and staff — are unhappy and frustrated. People outside the office are critical and, increasingly, derisive," Hemann wrote.

Acting criminal chief Krotoski said last week that attrition in the Northern District is about the same as in other offices — approximately 10 percent per year. "We have not seen the track record of this office suffer because of that," he said. And Macaulay blames departures on financial incentives, like lucrative law firm partnerships and retirement packages for career prosecutors.

But Rory Little, a professor at Hastings College of the Law and a former federal prosecutor who is generally supportive of Ryan, said it's unrealistic to say office turnover is unrelated to a white-collar decline, especially since the securities and white-collar sections have seen some high-profile personnel losses.

"A change in personnel, it doesn't matter why the change is, means things are going to be disrupted," he said.

PAR FOR THE COURSE?

While the nexus between management complaints and performance isn't always clear, recent history suggests that a San Francisco U.S. attorney will become known for one or the other.

Robert Mueller, who led the office in the late 1990s before becoming FBI director, is still spoken of with reverence; his predecessor, Michael Yamaguchi, was run out of office after a series of problems.

While these two represent extremes, Joseph Russoniello — the last Republican appointee thrown into the difficult role of San Francisco U.S. attorney — said public perception is always a concern.

"You basically work a little harder to make sure that reporters, instead of looking at how I ran my office, looked at the cases I was bringing," he said recently.

Ryan's failure to accomplish that has been attributed to a range of things. For example, Russoniello says, U.S. attorneys have become increasingly constrained by the Justice Department.

"It's very difficult now for the U.S. attorney, as I understand it, to have much of a say in the cases that are brought," he said. "Everything is micromanaged from Washington."

Others point directly to Ryan's temperament: they say the transition from a state judgeship to the hornet's nest of the federal building made him hunker down shortly after taking office.

Indeed, criticism can come from all angles, like well-publicized courtroom barbs from judges Charles Breyer and Jeffrey White last year, along with more private avenues: In 2004, Judge Marilyn Hall Patel complained about Ryan's management of the office to a high-ranking Justice Department official, said sources familiar with the communication. Patel didn't return calls seeking comment.

Over the past two years, lawyers in the office say Ryan has come to rely on his top deputy, Eumi Choi, for much of his communication with other prosecutors. And in recent months, Choi has been at the center of several troubling episodes for the office.

SECOND IN COMMAND

"Under the Ryan administration," Bevan wrote in his letter, "many good people have been badly mistreated, and more particularly, by his first assistant/criminal chief, Eumi Choi, and there have been abuses of management's authority, and instances of lack of integrity and candor."

Bevan did not specify what those alleged abuses were, but Choi — who has been out of town on a family emergency and was unavailable to comment for this story — has certainly taken her share of hits recently.

As the author of a letter firing the office's top administrator last year, Choi has been at the center of an investigation by the Office of Special Counsel, a federal whistle-blower agency probing whether the administrative officer, Caroline Krewson, was improperly terminated for criticizing Choi's and Ryan's management.

According to a copy of his letter reviewed by The Recorder, Bevan also sent it to Ira "Butch" Perkins, the OSC investigator looking into Krewson's complaint "for whistle-blower protection."

More recently, Choi has been in the middle of a separate probe of whether prosecutors mishandled a drug case when a DEA agent gave conflicting trial testimony before invoking his Fifth Amendment rights.

That situation has been a persistent, and potentially expensive, bete noire for the office, thanks to a defendant whose case was dismissed as a result of the agent's meltdown — and to Breyer, who vocally expressed his irritation with the situation last fall before ordering a Justice Department investigation.

The dismissed defendant, Nabil Ismael, is now trying to recover attorney's fees. In connection with that attempt, Breyer recently ordered Ryan, Choi and four other prosecutors to be deposed by defense lawyer Ian Loveseth.

Loveseth claimed in court filings that prior to dismissing the case, Choi made a plea offer to his client contingent on the defendant signing a statement that the DEA agent did not lie on the stand.

Choi has denied that, but the government — which rarely pays out fees in such cases — seems to feel there's a problem. Sources with direct knowledge of the case say the L.A. U.S. attorney's office, which is now handling it, has been authorized to settle the defendant's fee claims for up to $50,000. L.A. Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick McLaughlin, who's in charge of the case, did not return phone messages requesting comment). McLaughlin's investigation has also been taken seriously by the assistant U.S. attorneys who were handling the case: at least two of them have retained counsel to represent them in the probe.

Office spokesman Macaulay said Ryan stands by Choi. In a statement delivered via Macaulay, Ryan said Choi "has not only my respect and support, but also of those who know her and work with her on a day-to-day basis."

CRUNCHING NUMBERS

Like other criticisms, those aimed at Choi generally involve management and personnel issues — with the notable exception of the controversial plea deal, few call into question the development and execution of cases.

And from the outside, assessing such things with statistics is treacherous — numbers are difficult to compile, hard to analyze, and don't offer insight into the quality of cases being brought.

Ryan's office is quick to make those points. And while Ryan said, in an e-mail sent via his spokesman last week, that statistics requested by The Recorder aren't "readily available," he also said he knows his office is performing well "based on the quality and quantity of the cases we are bringing."

Ryan said that numbers don't provide an accurate picture of the office's efforts. He pointed, for example, to the BALCO steroids case, which counts as just one case and led to only four convictions but, he argues, also pushed Congress and Major League Baseball to address the problem.

He also points to Operation Copycat, a nationwide crackdown on game, software and movie piracy. Though the operation has thus far accounted for just four indictments here, and thus counts as just four "cases, " Ryan said the impact of the probe "is international in its scope."

Still, the Syracuse data show that white-collar prosecutions declined from 181 in 2002 to 93 last year.

Little, the Hastings professor, says this is likely due, in part, to shifting office priorities since Ryan took over.

"Kevin has made it a priority, or a focus, to prosecute violent crime in this community," Little said. "If you're going to up your emphasis in one area, you're going to go down in another area."

Defense lawyers generally agree, and say they are seeing fewer, and less complicated, white-collar cases than in the past.

"My perception is that there are much fewer cases being brought, and the cases that are being brought are much less complex," said Cristina Arguedas, a partner at Arguedas, Cassman & Headley in Berkeley and a top white-collar defense lawyer. She echoes other defense lawyers when she says that most of her big cases these days are out of town, a trend she attributes to a declining amount of white-collar work emanating from the Northern District.

But at the same time, defense lawyers and prosecutors — almost without exception — speak highly of the white-collar unit's management over the past few years, first Miles Ehrlich from 2003 to 2005 and, since he left for private practice in Berkeley, Michael Wang. Both are known as effective prosecutors comfortable with complex cases.

While the reasons for a white-collar decline are not clear, prosecutors insist that if there is a decline, it isn't a reflection of the office's performance or priorities.

"Numbers are for someone else to argue," Krotoski said. "We have plenty of work to do."

son of a prophet said...

another still and no DG case mentioned.





Priorities Not Always Clear

One difficulty in separating U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan's performance from complaints about his management style is the lack of a clear measuring stick. While Ryan's spokesman says white-collar cases are as important a concern as ever, the perception among defense lawyers is that the focus on gangs and guns has come at the expense of corporate fraud cases.

Officially, Ryan says terrorism is the office's top priority. But sources inside and outside the office say there's relatively little terror work for lawyers to do.

Largely for that reason, a 2004 reorganization got rid of the full-time terror unit, a change the office has been reluctant to admit, but that spokesman Luke Macaulay confirmed last week — and that has been applauded by many outside the office, who said the unit was drawing lawyers away from other investigations.

The current terrorism unit is made up of attorneys in other divisions who move over to terror cases whenever necessary as a top priority. The unit is headed up by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathan Schmidt, and while Macaulay said the names of other terror lawyers are secret, sources familiar with the unit said the group also includes white-collar chief Michael Wang and Assistant U.S. Attorneys Monica Fernandez and Elise Becker.

After terrorism, Ryan wrote in an e-mail last week, the office has other priority areas that are not ranked. As articulated by U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales last week at a U.S. attorneys meeting, they are: violent crime, drug trafficking, cyber crime, civil rights, public and corporate corruption, environment, intellectual property theft and health care fraud.

By all accounts, Ryan's office has been successful in bringing violent crime prosecutions, with several large gang cases resulting in a nearly eightfold jump in organized-crime cases from 2004 to 2005. Weapons cases went up modestly last year, as did environment and civil rights prosecutions, the latter thanks to a massive case against an alleged prosecution/immigration ring.

Ryan — through Macaulay — and acting criminal chief prosecutor Mark Krotoski declined to discuss whether the filings reported by Syracuse reflect their priorities.

"Statistics do not fully capture the effort of our office," Ryan wrote. "For example, a gang case with twelve defendants only counts for one filing, yet can bring safety and peace of mind to an entire community."

— Justin Scheck

tcob247 said...

kahooya

idiotic post as always
some things never change

KYHOOYA said...

i WAS JUST WONDERING JUST HOW MANY DAY'S THERE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO 45 DAY'S TO BE BROUGHT TO TRIAL ( YOU KNOW AS IN ONE'S RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF) LIKE ONE'S RIGHTS!

IN THE EYE'S OF THIS (JUST) COURT OF LAW IT WOULD SEEM THAT 45 DAY'S = SOMETHING LIKE LET ME SEE... Nov. Dec. Jan. that's 90 then we have Feb & March that's another what I'll try and be fair about this so I will say 28+10 so that 's 38+ 90 that gives us 128 day's

So if I'm doing my math right that would 128 day's carry the 1 sided judge & multiply the sum by the total lack of any fair and due process and you have the

Total Bull shit of a legal system that is railroading these guy's right in front of all without any concern what so ever their going to have to pay a price or be brothered by anyone asking silly question like this one.


aSK THIS WHY IS IT THAT THE SO CALLED PAPERS THAT KURT HAS FILED HAVE BEEN TH EBASIS FOR THE DELAYS WHEN JUDGE ALSUP HAS ALL BE MUST TROWN THEM OUT ON TH EBULLSHIT LIK EDID'NT HAVE BARRING ON THIS CASE WERE UNRELATED OR HAVE NO CONECTIN OR REDICULESS ANDUN RALATED . AND ONLY A FEW HAVE BEEN LET TO BE SEEN AND HEARD . AND WITH THE FORETHOOUGHT OF KNOWNING THEY WOULD BE THROWN OUT . SO AGAIN LET'S GIVE THAT SO ME TIME LIK EWHAT ?2 3 MONTH S THA COULS OF DELAIED AT THE MOST SO WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF TH EYEAR OE ABOUT THE 2YEARS NOP BAIL HOLD ON A WITHE COLLOR AND SUCH

yOU ALL BETTER CHECK YOUR SELFS AND SEE WHAT YOUR LETTING GO BY HERE CUS IT JUST MIGHT BE THE mom & pop STORY SOME DAY WERE IT'S YOUR AND THE JUDGE AHS IT OUT FO RTGHEM DO TO THE FACT THAT SOME oLD pAIR GOT HIS LITTLE DOGGY ALL STONED AND MADE HIM A POT JUNKEY CUS WHAT EVERY AND THEN ONE DAY THEY GET PICK UP OM A NO BAIL WARRENT FOR BEING pOT SMOKING bUT HAVE TO MUCH MEDICAL USE POT ON THE AND THEY GET CHARGED WWITH TRAFFICING AN DTHE THEY GET THE SAME JUDGE ...

aRE YOU SEEING A BAD PATTERN AROUNGD THE LACK OF INTEREST ABOUT THESE GUYS AND THEIR RIGHTS NOT BEING UPHELD


lAST THING AND I'LL STOP BUT LOOK AT SOMETHING HERE

IT'S BEEB 2YEARS

THEY HAVE'NT FILED THAT MUCH TO DELAY
THE COURT HAS GONE WAY OVER BOARD TO SHOW IT DISLIK EAND INSO HAS STOMPED ON THESE GUYRIGHTS
THE TIME CLOCK WELL RAN OUT LONG AGE IF ALL FARE WAS BEING GIVEN

tHE ADDION OF OTHER TO A CRIMINA; CASE IN TH E11 HR IS UN HEARD OF AND WHERE IT IS IT SHOWS VEREY GOOD CAUSE FOR SO AND IN MOST IT WAS NOT A DEL;AY I TH EDEF. RIGHT TO SPEEDY TRIAL

ADUE PROCESS NOT AT ALL FOLLOWED i HAVE NOT SEEN A CASETHAT HAS SO OPENLY DISREGARDED THE RIGHTS AND PLAIED TO IT OWN ( TH EJUDGE AND COURT ,da) AGENDA IN LONG TIME AND EVEN WHEN I HAVE IT WAS NEVER AS INTENCE AS THIS GET ING .

THERE IS MORE BUT JUST THINK ABOUT THIS


THERE IS MORE THAN 128 DAYS TO THE NEW TRAIL 9sO WHERE IS THE 45 DAY'S RIGHT NOE ) LOST DO TO ADDED DEF. THAT MUST BE EXPOT. ) HOW CRAZY IS THAT WHY NOT JUST SAY WERE GOING TO KEEP THESE GUYS LOCKED UP INTILL WE DAM WELL FEEL LIKE IT AND THEN WELL SEE IF WE WANT TO PUT THEM IN A BIGGER BADER JAIL FOR SOME MORE . WHY GHAV EA TRAIL AT ALL WHY NOT JUST HANG THEM NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH WAY ALL TH EDELAY

i'LL TELL YOU BECAUSE THE LONGER THE MORE PEOPLE STRT TO DROP OFF AND FOGET AOR LOSE INTEREST SO IT WORK'S TO THEIR FAVOR AND IT'ONE OLD TATCIC USE FOR EVER


HOW ABOUT THIS ONE IF EVERY EFFORT WAS BEING DONE TO KEEP TO A SPEEDY TRIAL THEN WHY IS THE

Jury not beinmg selected now instead of after march


You see that s why it won't be going to trial not soon just that could take a bit of time how about 2 years locked no bail hold

no rights upheld
transfered all over and back again
charge being lodged and then droped

time waiver not followed no resonalble effort being made to broing this into line and carried out to keep the time to delay at a very min. in fact all has been done to extend

these thing's alne with some others and whatyou have to see is your rights no matterr the charge or how yopu feel here it's fucking you big time any court is let to do this and go unchecked one day you'll be screeming that it you or your's and how the right's your intitled to ar ebeing stomped on but who will lissen then like you are now and won't ypou be fucked then..

128 day till march dates or so. then they might start looking at a jury selection date . and then so what were talking 3-4 years to trial complet fucking . you bey

and you know what the public gose fopr it be cause they heard some wghere that triasls last that long


The thing ;sis that is a CIVIL TRAIAL not criminal hell the o.j . set free faster than this

l8r

My rant and all fo rthe day .

Right wrong or indifferent


the RIGHTS you have ar elost evey time a judge or DA or anyone that has the power to do so over stepes nad declairs him self as the peace keeper and all knowing power tpo declair sentance or there by causeing things just as bad ..

son of a prophet said...

"Total Bull shit of a legal system that is railroading these guy's right....right to the BANK."

Fill'er up!


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

KYHOOYA said...

To:
Tin Cuppy as always your three steps behind and a man of your ever changing word . Are you sure your not a judge in one of our ecourt systems. Cause if not you might want to get with SOP about that info he posted and seeif you can apply for one of the new openings for thejob of DICKSTRIK ATTHORITY NOT WITH-UNDER-STANDING


..... OF MUCH THAT IS ...

hOW MANYTIMES IS THAT NOW THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE THROUGH POSTING HERE AND THEN IT WAS BACK ! A NEW MOVIE THE BIG op MOUTH THAT YOU COULD'NT GET TO STAY AWAY.


WHAT A JOKE OF A MAN . WHY DON'T YOU GO FIND SOME ONE TO TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK AND DO BEFORE YOU HEART YOUR SELF TRYING TO THINK ON YOU OWN.


LEAVE .. BACK YOUR GOING ... BUT YOU STAY .... YOUR DONE BUT YOUR NOT ... ENOUGH TIME SPENT BUT YET THERE IS MORE TO BE HAD ....


YOU MADE $12000.00 IN A MONTH ... BUT YET YOU WERE LOOKING AT mORTGAGE eLIM. PROGRAMS.

yOU SAID ALOT .... BUT IT MENT NOTHING ...

yOU HAD A GOOD IDEA (AS IN LEAVING) BUT COULD'NT EVERN DO THAT......!



hOW YOU DOING SWEET CAKE YOU THINK YOUR UP TO THE JOB AND WANT TO PLAY SOMEMORE?

bRING YOUR BAD SELF WITTLESSNESS ON JERKY !I'LL SPEND THE 10 MIN. IT TAKES TO SHUT YOU DOWN WHEN I TAKE A DUMP A LITTLE LATTER O.K.
????????


by by PECKER BREATH.

I DID'NT WANT TO DIS APOINT YOU AND LEAVE OUT SOMETHING FOR YOUR PENIS FEDISH so there you go .. Just don't hurt your self ...
l8r

son of a prophet said...

see all yo foks latta. got to gets to pamana, to get me money.....


vitorcy patty!

dun no why they choose panaama. i mean its not like monte carlo, or hawaii, or anywhere else.

guess they can get a good look at the canal from there from the crooz ship.

the dedling is past yesterday.

toot late!

wahts the pastword?

tcob247 said...

kahooya

quick
look behind you

the penis is in your ass

thats the way you like it though isnt it?

At least you know HOW to spell dick


MENSA MAN

neodemes said...

45 days to trial, yes, BUT, measured in DG days...like the 45 days to your free and clear title.

LOL

~~The Swami~~~ said...
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~~The Swami~~~ said...

I'm taking three Viagra pills a day to straighten out my golf swing.

mogel said...

Nemo: It appears that the Court time clock isn't any better. Where is Bill Julian? He isn't in the States yet, even though by their clock he was suppose to be here in mid December 2006:

"The government has informed the Court that defendant William Julian has been
apprehended in Panama. The government expects that he will be extradited to the United States
BY MID DECEMBER. Accordingly, the trial date currently scheduled for JANUARY 8, 2007 is
hereby VACATED. The pretrial conference currently scheduled for DECEMBER 18, 2006 is also
VACATED. A status conference will be held on DECEMBER 11, 2006 AT 2:00 P.M.
Under the Speedy Trial Act, TIME IS EXCLUDED until December 11, 2006, for the reasons
previously stated and because at least one at-large defendant is now in the process of extradition
back to stand trial.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Dated: November 8, 2006"


The Court has already cooked the goose and it isn't eadible since it's been on high too long.

I particularly like the part: "TIME IS EXCLUDED"

Of course they have no concept of time when it involves innocent people.

LOL

mogel said...

Nemo: How do you expect the Court to accept the deed of reconveyances that Dorean Group filed, when they
think that time is something that CAN BE EXLUDED?

I always thought that TIME was the most precious thing we have on earth. It's like the most scarce thing there is. Ask a cancer patient that has days to live. We all only have a certain number of days and that's it & then we die.

The court doesn't recognize this commodity as something important so how can they recognize the importance of the Dorean documents?

Maybe if they did, than the 45 days would have more significance. LOL

mogel said...

The Federal Court has hereby ordered that Reason be vacated due to lack of interest in time.

Under the "speedy trial act, time is excluded".

Since time is gone, than the speedy part is gone too. Kind of an oxy-moron.

Kind of like the "Patriot Act". In order to be a Patriot, you have to take away people's rights and freedoms. That's what patriotism is all about, isn't it?

Hey if we give you the right name, than we can believe that you're something else too, or something that you are not. How about "Neo-genius"?

Dr Jeff said...

HI, Just one question for anyone that has paid more than the "mortgage fee" to enter into this program: Kurt or Scott,can you please send back my funds that were wired offshore so I can save my home and family??? These funds were paid in good faith that this program worked and my first two mortgages were finished thus allowing me to get two more mortgages and send you 50%. The services were never rendered so I should receive a "refund" of the 50% amount of the new refi. I cannot tell any of you what I nightmare this is! How come Kurt, Scott or Dr. Fred never respond to my comments, letters, or postings? I did my part in good faith and now have been suffering. Please respond with just straight answers and spare me the rhetoric.

Thanks!

Dr. J

tcob247 said...

kahooya...........

why don't you call Dr Jeff an asshole for coming into the program and believing Kurt?

Mogel..........

Tell Dr Jeff he is ging to get his money. The Govt. and bankers are just misbehaving right now


Dr Jeff........

Not too suprising that you don't get any answers from the criminals.
They got your money
You are not alone.
There are hundreds out there.
If they all were aware of this blog it would be loaded up with stories just like yours


SOP

Why dn't you copy and paste some more irrelevant shit

son of a prophet said...

"SOP

Why dn't you copy and paste some more irrelevant shit




my pleasure. as soon as i find some. i know you just wait fo me to post/paste. lol

mogel said...

Dr. Jeff: Why don't you get a TILA audit done for a small nominal fee? There should be enough violations to stop your lenders from foreclosing by you having an attorney working on a contingency basis to file a complaint in Federal Court based upon the findings of the TILA audit. That should buy you the time to save your properties & family until Dorean can finish what they started.

son of a prophet said...

jus fo yo, tocb,

here is so mo irreverant s**t fo yo:



As trial goes on, he hunkers down
By SCOTT BROOKS
Union Leader Staff

Thursday, Jan. 18, 2007



The government's case against a Plainfield couple who refused to pay income taxes for more than a decade has drawn the ire of tax protesters and militia members from around the country, including some who have pledged to defend the couple with firearms if necessary.
Ed Brown has invited sympathizers, both armed and unarmed, to join him in an ongoing protest at his home in Plainfield. Brown has been holed up in the house for five days and says he has no plans to leave while his trial continues without him.
Several supporters -- including one who brought a gun -- have already come to his aid, vowing they will stand guard against government agents who would come for Brown.
"If they're coming, we will do what we've got to do," said John Miller of Farmington, one of about a half-dozen supporters at Browns' house yesterday.
U.S. Marshal Steve Monier dismissed talk of an impending confrontation, saying he has spoken with Brown several times and is keeping the line of communication open
Our discussions with him have been very low key, amicable, non-threatening," Monier said. "And I can tell you any discussion as to an armed standoff, some kind of siege at Mr. Brown's residence, is not even on the table for discussion."
Brown, who keeps a handgun tucked in his waistband, has said he is prepared for an armed standoff but maintains he hopes that can be avoided.
"I've threatened no one. They're threatening me," he said. "Doesn't anybody get that?"
Authorities say Brown and his wife, Elaine, did not pay income taxes for 11 years. Both Browns are charged with conspiring to evade taxes, conspiring to disguise large financial transactions and disguising large transactions. Elaine Brown faces two other charges, also related to tax evasion.
The Browns maintain the U.S. Constitution does not require them to pay taxes and challenged federal authorities to prove otherwise.
Elaine Brown, who works as a dentist, had been considering a plea deal with the U.S. Attorney's Office. She rejected the deal and has since returned to court, where she took the stand before resting her case yesterday. Jury deliberations are now under way.
Brown is being tried in absentia.
"Most Americans," Brown told The Associated Press yesterday, "would cower and cringe and raise their hands and surrender like a good little slave.
"I won't. Under no circumstances. I do not tolerate cowardness, oppression, bulliness, and I certainly don't tolerate a federal agency that has absolutely zero jurisdiction in my state, never mind in my county, in my town."
►Plainfield neighbors take it all in stride
►Tax trial defendants skip court, asking 'What's the point?'
►Location of the Browns' rural home
Anti-government crusaders throughout the country have taken an active interest in the Browns' case. Last week, an Internet radio host from Denver called on his listeners to descend on Plainfield, "armed to the teeth" with firearms and video cameras.
Those who plan to make the trip have said they would not initiate any violence, but would arm themselves "for defensive purposes only," said radio host Rick Stanley.
Other sympathizers have suggested a violent standoff may be imminent.
One letter writer, a New Hampshire man who calls Brown a close friend and mentor, says a standoff is developing and "like Waco, will result in the deaths of innocent people."
The writer, 41-year-old William Miller, also called for the judge in Brown's case, the U.S. attorney in New Hampshire and other officials to be "hanged for treason."
Miller -- whose brother, John, and mother, Marie, stood by Brown's side in Plainfield yesterday -- now says his letter was more inflammatory than it should have been, but maintains he does not regret writing it.
"Somebody's got to do it," he said, "otherwise nothing's going to change around here."
Some supporters, such as Fred Smart, have urged non-violence. Smart is the national volunteer coordinator for the America: Freedom to Fascism network, a group that believes the government is imposing illegitimate taxation on its citizens.
Most people following the case want a peaceful resolution, Smart said.
"I think it could easily go in the other direction," he said. "But I'm very hopeful, and I'll remain hopeful, that it doesn't have to."
A retired exterminator, Brown has been a prominent figure in anti-tax and anti-government circles for more than a decade. He is the founder of an organization called the Un-American Activities Investigations Commission, whose members purportedly seek out criminal elements within the government, "from the President on down."
Brown is also a former head of the U.S. Constitution Rangers, a national organization that looks to defend citizens against perceived encroachments by the government. He still ranks among the group's leaders.
The Constitution Rangers were formed in Arizona in the 1980s, although the group frequently claims to take authority from the U.S. Constitutional Convention, according to Mark Pitcavage, director of investigative research for the Anti-Defamation League. Members wear badges and claim to be officers in a legitimate law enforcement agency, he said.
Pitcavage has been researching Brown and other suspected militia leaders since the mid-1990s, when the movement gained steam in the United States, he said. Brown, he said, was one of the most prominent New England militia leaders in the 1990s.
U.S. Marshal Steve Monier said the Constitutional Rangers do not have a history of violence in New Hampshire.
Monier said his office does not plan to confront Brown. That might not be the case if Brown was charged with a violent felony, he suggested. This case, he noted, is about income taxes.
"You've got to keep this in perspective," Monier said.

son of a prophet said...

look lik s**t go hit da fain....

defand them with firearms!


whoa! this ot to be intrasting!!

we see wha ahppens??

son of a prophet said...

"Anti-government crusaders throughout the country have taken an active interest in the Browns' case. Last week, an Internet radio host from Denver called on his listeners to descend on Plainfield, "armed to the teeth" with firearms and video cameras.



someone need to pray for you seriously. you dont want to do this!!

you dont bring a knife to a gunfight.

the govt. all costs will bring in armored personnell carriers/tanks if they have to. you will all get youself killed for no reason.

yes, there is no contitutional amendent for income taxs, but this is not worth dying for. the govt. will kill you, no questions aksed.

think of you kids. please!

the govt. is run by the devil and they will kill you like waco/ruby rindge. thnk aobut it.

son of a prophet said...

link



http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=As+trial+goes+on,
+he+hunkers+down&articleId=
c1b55d17-dcb6-4e42-9f98-e174d02e66a4

KYHOOYA said...

mogel said...
Dr. Jeff: Why don't you get a TILA audit done for a small nominal fee? There should be enough violations to stop your lenders from foreclosing by you having an attorney working on a contingency basis to file a complaint in Federal Court based upon the findings of the TILA audit. That should buy you the time to save your properties & family until Dorean can finish what they started.

8:32 AM

Dr. Jeff

I beleive we met for a brief time at the Vagas Convension. You were with Irwin and in line behind me. At the time I do recall you had made some coments about how "known about this kinda info for a long time" " it's was nothing new " is what I think you said and that Dorean had just found away to get it done right. I also remember you saying something to the like you " had lost other homes do to the taxes owed and fallowing Iewins advise "

Now don't get me wrong here I'm not bring this up to pour salt on it what I am saying is that it show's you have a determination to getthe right thing at what ever cosst done or that you may jump in withh both feet when it might have been better to sit backfor a moment and see how thing's went.

Enough said on that in regard to what Mogal posted I think that to be very good advise and if your wanting to save your home than I would seek that hlep rather than to come here and for lack of a better word "piss in the wind" gaining the result's are as displeasing as that.

You have posted here a few time and it always seems to be around the context of af posting that moght look in somewhat "Good light " for the dorean pair. I have to ask you is that just timing or what?

Dir sir. I would have to question your motives as to the posting's you done when looking back at them. You seem to be fixated on the ofshore moneies rather why not ask the now famied Kevin Ryan to dip into the larger amount of money that they took in there two raid's to help you with a home saving needs.

I will be interested tio see what becomes of that money when this is all said an done. Will it be returned to the so called victoms or will it just go quitly into the night never to be seen again.

You know you people and planted brainwashed are a interesting bunch . I mean when the out come of betterment to all would be to have some good real law's get enforcesd around thge papers that were file with all good intention and by the law to the banks and to have them follow those law as everone has to and not to see the gov't inject it's own brand of change to suit what they need at the time no matter what it is that is been said as law and no matter trhat everyone has been made to follow those



I fined it oh so funny (Not ) how when the bank's are just stoping on up from left to right nd it is nmore than out there to see the underhanded way's they do business. When the chete and do thing like jump the interest because your report show's (what ever they want it to , Just try and get it fixed in any real time and you'll quikly findout how much they work for the banks to) your were late on a PG&E bill 6 months ago. per their terms of aggerment they sent you after you got that balance up a little by their urgging you to use it with such thinbgs as ) % interest and no payments for a year. Yhay one right there is a big one "No payments &NO interest for one year or 12 months.
Now why is it that the rest is put in little tiny print is this do tosaving space on this alraedy filled but still has plenty of space doc. or is it to HIDE THE REAL FACTS AROUND THE OFFER THEY DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU IN TILL YOUR MAX OUT AND HAVE NO CHOSES BUT TO PAY THEM. AND THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM NO!... THEY DON'T JUST WANT TO GET THE REG. %% RATE THEY WANT TO USE ANYTHING THEY CAN SO THEY CAN GET THAT RATE UP TO "LOANSHARKING RATES ' SO THEY FEEL THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROPERLY SCREWED.

WHY not fight the problem and leave the rest of the plant's to a waterless soil of nothing.

The only thing that matter's is that the BANKS are snakes and out to get as much of your money as they can what ever way they can and the do this withh the help from our dear gov't as we stand in a wake of helplessness stoped and cover to the point of confution with paper forms and buricradial barrusaids to slow us down.

No wounder the banks charge so much and are sneeky about it they have to get that money to line all those LAWMAKERS paokets somewhere ,,, know don't they?

dDr. seek help that makes and upward turn and stop with the poor me crap o.k. un less you are noy who I met or are siply heree as other so to disrupt with know real goal in mind.

tcob247 said...

"dDr. seek help that makes and upward turn and stop with the poor me crap o.k. un less you are noy who I met or are siply heree as other so to disrupt with know real goal in mind."

That sure is some good sound advise isn't it Dr Jeff?


SOP

That was a good cut and paste

I support the Brown family 100%

son of a prophet said...

but, you know, it really goes even deeper than that, i mean not getting killed.

suppose the "good guys" could somehow win?

what would it prove?

nothing.

if the devil could have his way, would not he want everyone fighting against one antoher??

a civil war?

you would have chirtians shooting at and killing who??? other christians.

people get so "wrapped up" in beign right and winning, they completely lose sight of the "big picture"

that is what is in iraq today. iraqis killing other iraqis; total lawlessness which can never be controlled; at least not in iraq and not now.

"...the mystery of lawlessness doth already at work.."

there are those who dont understand this verse, but it says exactly what it means and it applies exactly to iraq (babylon)

and it applies exactly, that as time goes on, babylon (lawlessness) will spread to everywhere. usa included.

will revert back to the days of GUNSMOKE and my all time favorite, THE WILD, WILD, WEST.

everyone will be walking around packing heat in their holsters just like in those days.

mogel said...

Tcob said: "I support the Brown family 100%"
________________________________
So will you be bringing your guns & person too to back him up 100% if needed? Or is that just an idle moral stance of lip service only?

tcob247 said...

mogel said...
Tcob said: "I support the Brown family 100%"
________________________________
So will you be bringing your guns & person too to back him up 100% if needed? Or is that just an idle moral stance of lip service only?


If I knew them personally I would for sure

Are you willing to go to jail for life like Kurt for his cause or is yours just an idle moral stance with lip service only?

mogel said...

Tcob said: Are you willing to go to jail for life like Kurt for his cause or is yours just an idle moral stance with lip service only?
__________________________________
Will that make the simple difference in the outcome? The FBI knows where I'm at. Don't believe anyone is going to get life, so I don't see how your example fits. I never believed that, & I knew what I was getting into when I started with Dorean. I still don't believe that things are anywhere as bleak as you believe or cry about.

I think I've done more than lip service. Do you do anything other than tear a good cause down?

Somehow it doesn't ring true to me that you would put your life in jeopardy for Brown even if you knew him. Little things seem to bother you; that's why I say that. Little things like a few thousand dollars. When's the last time you physically put your life in jeopardy for someone or for a worthy cause?

I don't think Brown's best option is guns & a stance giving the government reason to make an example out of him. Besides he is a former militia leader & it wouldn't surprise me if the government wants a show down, despite what they say. The government may want to use him as an example just to stomp him into the ground because they can. They've done it before without repercussions to them. That seems to be the real problem that the government doesn't think they are accountable & when's the last time they were held accountable for something real huge? You'll probably have to think on that one.

son of a prophet said...

mogey,

i know you in utah so do you know what ever happen with this from last year at this tiem??



IN THE UTAH COURT OF APPEALS
----ooOoo----
Wayne R. Bevan,
Plaintiff and Appellant,
v.
David B. Boyce; HSBC Mortgage
Services, Inc.; Wilmington
Finance; Backman-Stewart Title
Services; Mortgage Electronic
Registration Services; and
Household Finance Corp., III,
Defendants and Appellees.
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MEMORANDUM DECISION
(Not For Official Publication)
Case No. 20051043-CA
F I L E D
(February 2, 2006)
2006 UT App 31
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Fourth District, Provo Department, 050402234
The Honorable Gary D. Stott
Attorneys: Wayne R. Bevan, Provo, Appellant Pro Se
Bryan W. Cannon, Randy L. Robinson, and Drew B.
Quinn, Sandy, for Appellees
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Before Judges Greenwood, McHugh, and Orme.
PER CURIAM:
Wayne R. Bevan appeals the district court's order dismissing
his complaint against the Appellees. This matter is before the
court on Appellees' motion for summary disposition.
"The district court's determination that a plaintiff's
complaint 'failed to state a claim upon which relief can be
granted,' leading the court to grant the defendant's motion to
dismiss under rule 12(b)(6) of the Utah Rules of Civil Procedure,
is a legal conclusion that we review for correctness." Summit
Water Distrib. Co. v. Summit County, 2005 UT 73,¶12, 123 P.3d 437
(citations omitted). On appeal, Bevan argues that real estate
transactions involving deeds of trust are governed by the Uniform
Commercial Code as enacted by the Utah Legislature. See Utah
Code Ann. §§ 70A-1-101 to 70A-11-108 (Supp. 2005). Bevan asserts
several other issues; however, these issues are inherently
related to Bevan's claim that the deed of trust is governed by
the Uniform Commercial Code. Accordingly, if Bevan's original

son of a prophet said...

i cant seem to get the other half of the PDF file on the board, it keeps getting cut off.

son of a prophet said...

i figured it out now.



20051043-CA 2
claim concerning what law governs the deed of trust fails, his
other claims necessarily fail as well.
The Utah Legislature has enacted a specific statutory scheme
to deal with conveyances of property. See id. §§ 57-1-1 to -44
(Supp. 2005). Within this broad statutory scheme, Utah Code
sections 57-1-19 through 57-1-36 deal specifically with the
creation and regulation of trust deeds. See id. §§ 57-1-19 to
-36. Accordingly, contrary to the arguments of Bevan, trust
deeds are not regulated by the Uniform Commercial Code but
instead are regulated by Utah Code sections 57-1-1 through
57-1-44. Cf. Utah Code Ann. § 70A-9a-109(4)(k) (stating that
secured transaction provisions do not apply to transfers of
interest or liens on real property). It is under these
provisions, for example, that trust deeds may be assigned and
substitute trustees named. Thus, because Bevan's causes of
action were based entirely upon his adherence to the belief that
trust deeds were regulated by the Uniform Commercial Code and in
no way alleged that actions concerning the trust deed violated
Utah Code sections 57-1-19 through 57-1-36, the district court
correctly dismissed Bevan's complaint for failure to state a
claim for which relief could be granted.
Affirmed.
______________________________
Pamela T. Greenwood,
Associate Presiding Judge
______________________________
Carolyn B. McHugh, Judge
______________________________
Gregory K. Orme, Judge

son of a prophet said...

see, i remember that name in the Ryan article, US atty Bevan, but ccouldnt remember where i knew it from?


so I had to go look thru '00s of files on my computrer to find where i read about some guy named Bevan in a real estate case. i knew that someone had sent me some stuff about it, but i dont put good file names on them so its takes a lot of time to manually look up each file contents.

could these guy be related and the real estate case be a "setup case" to lose intentially???

son of a prophet said...

The sharply worded letter by Assistant U.S. Attorney George Bevan Jr. expresses critics' hope that the review — known as EARS, since

A Marine platoon commander in Vietnam, Bevan is known as an aggressive prosecutor specializing in gang, gun and drug cases. Lawyers within the office said that while Bevan has always been extremely loyal to the department, he has felt alienated for some time, since Ryan demoted him from a supervisory position shortly after being appointed.

And last year, while Bevan was on leave after suffering a heart attack, prosecutors released a key defendant in one of Bevan's gang cases.

Elmer Fudd said...

son of a prophet said...
The sharply worded letter by Assistant U.S. Attorney George Bevan Jr. expresses critics' hope that the review — known as EARS, since

A Marine platoon commander in Vietnam, Bevan is known as an aggressive prosecutor specializing in gang, gun and drug cases. Lawyers within the office said that while Bevan has always been extremely loyal to the department, he has felt alienated for some time, since Ryan demoted him from a supervisory position shortly after being appointed.

And last year, while Bevan was on leave after suffering a heart attack, prosecutors released a key defendant in one of Bevan's gang cases.



And this pertains too???

mogel said...

"My first case said a promissory note was a security to be convicted THIS TIME it MUST not be." What could the prosecution provide to prove that?

Kurt followed the UCC to the letter of the law in what he did. The UCC was his authority to do what he did. Obedience of the UCC isn't a crime, nor can it be made to be a crime. So if fraud was committed it must have been committed outside the UCC, but how can that be, when ALL OF THE DOREAN GROUP'S ACTIONS WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE UCC? So if you followed the law, how can fraud exist?

To complicate this further for the prosecution, no affadavits have been filed that any liability exists on Dorean's part. In other words, what law has been broken and why & who is testifying under oath that there is liability, and where is the authority of law for that liability ON THE PART OF THE DOREAN GROUP. To be guilty, you must have liability. No liability, no guilt, no enforcement of jail time. "Guilty of no liability".

Looking at the power of attorney for the bank and the substitution of trustee, and the deed of reconveyance or discharge of mortgage for clients signed & filed by the Dorean Group, all were done under the authority of the UCC's rules and guidelines. Even the sections for that authority were even cited in that paperwork for the lenders to read and see in the presentment packages they received. The lenders call that fraud, but following the law can't be fraud. Does calling out a name, make it truth that should be widely accepted? It's like my brother who presumes since the Dorean Group are in jail, and are charged,& have received so much bad publicity, they must be guilty, and therefore, they deserve whatever they get by giving false hope to people that thought they would have their mortgages annuled & didn't after spending lots of money for this service. Well clients didn't completely get the results they wanted or expected, since the lenders don't honor the law, pure & simple!!!!! So where should the blame be put? For fair results, there must be fair playing of the game. Do you sanction a cheater? Obviously, most people do and do it under good conscience or so they have conditioned themselves to believe in their false self pride and self righteousness like my younger brother has, because he gives the banks NO BLAME whatsoever.

Now if the argument is being given that Dorean dealt with secured properties & real estate put in trusts & secured properties aren't governed by the UCC, so Kurt's arguments are bogus, one has to think about a few things.

The promissory note is the center of the transaction. Without the promissory note being signed with the anticipation of getting a loan, the lender could never get you to sign the deed of trust or mortgage. Since there is fraud by the lender in deceiving you, giving you the false impression you are getting a loan, the lender is able to attach his interest quickly in the property & secures his interest by recording a security interest, even before a real loan is given, so immediately the promissory note and the deed of trust or mortgage, kind of become related in the lender's crime scenario of conversion and misrepresentation. It's hard to separate the two when misrepresentation and conversion takes place.

Now the naysayers will say that the UCC doesn't apply to secured transactions involving deeds of trusts or real property and that the UCC only applies to personal property. Promissory notes ARE personal property and are securities, & not negotiable instruments, so security laws apply too. Naysayers may even cite the Utah case involving Mr. Bevan to discredit the Dorean Process, trying to say that the instruments Dorean filed were done without authority, IF THE AUTHORITY TO DO THOSE THINGS WERE COMING FROM THE UCC.

Well, where does the fraud first take place, it takes places in the conversion of your promissory note which IS PERSONAL PROPERTY. This fraud involves the real property and the security instrument shoved in your face to sign so you can get the benefit you are expecting. Instead of getting the benefit promised, the lender converts your promissory note to enrich himself first and then violates a bunch of security laws which is securities fraud.

So aren't the lenders coming to court with "unclean hands"? If they have unclean hands, how can they swear to anything when their testimony and credibility is shot, not that they can or will swear to anything because they won't and can't. Without any sworn testimony, where are the facts? Without facts, where is the evidence? Without evidence, how can fraud be proven to convict fairly? Aren't we talking about charges of bank fraud as the center of all of this?

If the lender has unclean hands, how can he maintain any liability on Dorean's part or use the courts to prove or recoup anything since this is contrary to the "unclean hands doctrine". If the banks aren't damaged, where is the liability? If the banks were damaged, how do they intend to prove that? So why is there even a trial?

son of a prophet said...

mog,

waht was the final result of the utah case i posted above.

was it fuerther appealed?

waht happen with this?

is that case only local to utah?

KYHOOYA said...

"The government has informed the Court that defendant William Julian has been
apprehended in Panama. The government expects that he will be extradited to the United States
BY MID DECEMBER. Accordingly, the trial date currently scheduled for JANUARY 8, 2007 is
hereby VACATED. The pretrial conference currently scheduled for DECEMBER 18, 2006 is also
VACATED. A status conference will be held on DECEMBER 11, 2006 AT 2:00 P.M.
Under the Speedy Trial Act, TIME IS EXCLUDED until December 11, 2006, for the reasons
previously stated and because at least one at-large defendant is now in the process of extradition
back to stand trial.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Dated: November 8, 2006"
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So for all the smartasses out there that like to answer back with one line bullshit, it show's you have about as much though into wheather the truth or law is being followed as the court do. You know being stupid or blind is not a defence last I checked but hey you go right on an believe the spoon feed crap your so happy to pass on to others as fact. The onlt facts you known are the ones that you are feed to be the truth you don't even take the time to check whats facts and whats not.
"jess I don't know Brain , what do you want to do today? I don't know what do you want to do Patar? I don't know Spongar what do you want to do? I don't know what do you want to do? I don...... Oh what's the use you dumb asses are are the same just like any other public office that someone wants or holds it's all nothing but a bunch of bullshit coming out of there mouth when thying to get a straight answer ti a simple question. I f anyone has read the book the "Making of a President" or The Making of a retarded pupit. then you will come to a part in it that talks about the Rowe paart and how he used things like triping up Kerry on little time lines or nit picked little fact's to take the focaus off anything real when the two Bush & Kerry were to debate . Why cus the first one they had Bush was shown for the dumbass he is and could'nt keep up with the question. So if you can't win with what you know than I geuss it's win bt cheating and lie's RIGHT? Right the samething the court's are doing now in this and many other cases they know have to lose. The judge said in his oder to vacate the dates for pre trial and trial that he was doing so based on the fact that a defendent now correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall every seeing andone but Kurt J. Scott H. on the charges for this case and being it is a criminal case and the defendents have not waive time where exactly are we in that referance of the clock are we 29 day into it or are we 40 , 10 maybe what exactly is the correct TIME anyway or should I call POPCORN to get that answer? The chances are I would most likly have a better chance there than with the system of Neo Nothing but B.S. That reside around here speeking as if they holsd some kinda higher power of insight to the thinking ofthe court and the corruptttt.

How is it read on the charges to the two in this case is it Kurt & Scott or is it Kurt & Scott and others to be added as the court see's fit to do so when it is needed to delay the clock.

Jess is this far or what I just don't understand it if all the fact the court has are in the favor of the two being wrong and this all a big scam then why do they have to use all these trick to win?

Oh a please ssomeone get on here and tell me how the court & DA don't use the system's andthere power to twist it it to their side of advantage when wanting things togo their way when there not and the law has know writen way for them to get it the way they want come on say it? say it ? they meaning the DA & court sytem all involved are as pure as the driven snow and would never use and LIE"S OR TRICKS OR BACKHANDED DEALS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT .... OHHHH KNOWWWW THAT WOULD NEVER BE THE WAY THE GOD FARRING FOLK UP ON THAT BENCH WOULD HAVE IT.

MAYBE WE NEED TO GET THAT JUDGE THEY JUST GAVE 5 YEARS BACHK AND HAVE HIM SIT THIS CASE WELL HE SIT BEHIND THE BENCH AND pUMPS YOU uP THAT S RIGHT i SAID pUMP'S YOU up WITH HIS OVER USED BUT STILL WORKING pENIS VACUUM PUMP!

Hey Tin Cuppy being how you have such a big atraction to the topic of little penies getting bigger you might be of help to that judge you already have the mind set to think like he did when he sat for months on that bech and over saw cases well pumping it up what do you think can you help him? Oh never mind I for got who I was talking to for a second you just go on and stay where you are and use you own penis pump but just alittle word of advise you might want to take it off you head before you try and talk cus your hard to hear when your mouth is all streched out like that. dickhead !!!!!

hey I would like anyone that has that copied fro that case listing the persons originally charge in this case .

then if you say to be true that there has beedd add on's to it where in the law books is that read I would love to read it and see just how upstanding the courts are being with regard to Time and it's beiong stoped or excluded in the wavier and these two guy's having there rights upheld.

Funny how the court has a side that is so negg. to the two You would have to wonder why that is when you know that there are hundered's of cases out there that involve thing like this what the steak the judge has in it anyway ? is he afraid he will lose money on his realastate investments or what?
no need to answer that I already no whats up with that.


Show me the papers that have all these deff. on it cus my read is not andthen it is tohow do you add deff. in the middle of a trial case no lessa crininal one ?
Let them get their own trial.

KYHOOYA said...

WHERE IS THE CLOCK AT AS FAR AS HOW MUCH TIME IS GONE FROM IT SO FAR

45 DAYS - X? = Y?

LETS SEE TAKE 365 X 2 =730
THEN YOU DIVIDED THAT BY THE SUM
SO 730 /X HOW MANY DAYS THE PAIDOFF JUDGE SAID THAT HE WOULD STOP THE CLOCK FOR THAT WAS 689 SO IF WE TAKE INTO ACCT. THE FALSE RETAINMENT AND EXTRADION OF THE FIRST P[ART THEN ADD BACK IN THE = OR GRATER SUM AND THEN WE TAKE INTO THE FACT THAT IT IS ALL CALCULATED ON A PIREODIC DALIY THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE NEED SUM TO GET THE ANSWER WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND THATISSSSSSSS....




WHAT-EVER + WHEN-EVER = NEVER NEVER LAND AND PETERPAM IS REAL OH YOUR KIDDING GET OUT HE IS WELL THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING NOW DOS'NT IT?

I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT .. RIGHT..... ! SURE YOU WILL ...

KYHOOYA said...

HEY MOGEL

COULD I GET ANY INFO YOUHAVE ON THE tILA LAWYERS AND AUDIT STUFF i HAVE SOME BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY OTHERS OUT THERE i'LL TELL YOU WHY IN A E-MAIL IF YOU COULD POST YOUR AGAIN i GO THERE OR i GEUSS I COULD GO BACK THROUGH THE POSTINGS YOU HAVE PUT IT THEE A FEW TIMES TO , i HATE TO ADD TO THE JUNK MAIL ON MY E-MAIL BEING HOW YOUR IS ALREADY POSTED I FIGURE THAT IT WOULD'NT GET ANY MORE ON YOUR END. WITCH EVER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE i WOULD JUST LIKE TO TOUCH VBASE ON A FEW THING TO DO WITH THAT TOPIC O.K. ?

L8R

mogel said...

SOP said: "waht was the final result of the utah case i posted above."
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I don't really know. Pauligirl might know. I can kind of see where they were going with it, but not sure if the appeal was successful or even heard.

Kyhooa: Here is my email based upon your request: mogel007@safe-mail.net

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