Friday, January 12, 2007

Dealing with the disappointment (12-25-06)

I think the toughest thing to deal with in a man’s trial to me has always been the disappointment of what is perceived as missing the mark in your faith walk. I say perceived because our understanding is so limited. A lady gave Scott and I a prophecy we would be out by Christmas. God never gave us a check in our spirit concerning it and many other confirmations appeared. All this caused me to set my heart on this promise. At first glance it appears an exercise that failed but God works in strange ways. My wife and I cried some real tears of sorrow but were quickly nurtured by God. The healing was very contrary to what I would expect. I was called to praise God for His mastery over our circumstance even though my eyes were at the moment deceived. What was revealed to me was a weakness in my faith I hadn’t seen before. God addressing this was a blessing to me and an edification of my spirit. It is one of those baffling paradoxes in Christ where you are lifted up by going down. In my frustrated brokenness God’s wholeness whelmed me. It kind of recalibrated my resolve and faith to a more peaceful enduring faith that no longer needs my hope set on a moment in time but is content just to rest in God’s control. One great example of His control was the Roman soldiers not breaking the leg bones of Christ. For 200 years this pattern was not broken. God has always been in control. Never has He been in a position where He is wringing His hands in concern. Why do we fret or dread what our enemies are up to? God whose wisdom and intellect far exceeding our imagination knows how to get us through our trials. Out of my disappointment I hope you will find our common ignorance and our common cure. Praise, Praise, Praise let us get lost in His magnificence. Our Big God automatically shrinks the size of our problems. I wish for you the new peace I’ve discovered. No the suffering has not ended and I should be crushed by its unknown termination but somehow God made this state more comfortable. Evil has an end and God has a plan and my opportunity to trust is grand. Seize your opportunity. Don’t let the cares of this world distract your eyes from the glories of God. One thing you will notice when this is over is that all the false prophets on this blog will not be honest in the end. Serving Christ is not the living in perfection it is the perfection of living. God knows your downs and ups, you strengths and weaknesses. You are known, not forgotten, and the plans He has for you are good for a future and a hope Jer. 29:11.

13 comments:

son of a prophet said...

" A lady gave Scott and I a prophecy we would be out by Christmas"


chalk up another false prophet(ess)

guess the bibles record is still intact for no female profits, oops, prophetesses.

dont want to say that i told you so, but i will.

i still think that the dg will win, but k should go by his inner feelings which will be guided by the HS and no more false prphetesses.

son of a prophet said...

will the next female prphetess please sign in and fill out the apllication at the desk.

"...at prophets.com, we are an equal opportunity employer without regard to gender, etc...."


NOT!

son of a prophet said...

"ok, if you cant join 'em, then start you own site..."


www.falseprophetess.com



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!

neodemes said...

sop said:

"i still think that the dg will win"

*******

Is that a prophesy?

son of a prophet said...

neodemes said...
sop said:

"i still think that the dg will win"

*******

Is that a prophesy?


******************************



is dg gong to have a victroy party?


fier up the girll!!

son of a prophet said...

i never make propecies, just say what comes to me, sometimes right and sometimse wrong.

if i was a prpet, i would never be wdrong, right?

but i am used to listening to the HS for guidance.

QUESTION?

suppose i was a govt planted agent here. would that make any difference???

NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WHY??

because as long as i lead someone to the HS, thats all that is important in yeshuas eyes.

it wouldnt matter if i was a govt. agent or not.

IF I WERE NOT A GOVT. AGENT, BUT DID NOT LEAD PPL TO THE HS, THIS WOULD BE VERY BAD.

so the issue is ONLY wheter one leads another to the HS. not his type of employment.

i am not a govt. agent, but nor can i prove it, and nor does it matter as i stated above and nor is it important whehter or not anyone beleives me.

HS IS THE ONLY IMPORTANT ISSUE, NOT WHO THEY WORK FOR.

SOEMONE LED BY THE HS COULD NOT "BLINDLY FOLLOW ORDERS" LIKE TORTURING SOMEONE JUST BEACUSE THEY WERE IN THE MILITARY AND FOLLOWING ORDERS. NO. THOSE PPL WOULD OF SAID "NO, I WONT DO THAT" AND GOT THORWN IN THE BRIG IF THAT WHAT IT MEANT BY NOT FOOLWONG ORDERS.

GODS LAW REIGNS SUPREME OVER ANY AND ALL MAN MADE LAWS.

son of a prophet said...

REMBER:



"YOU CANT KNOW GOD, BUT ONLY THROUGH HIS SON YESHUA; AND

YOU CANT KNOW HIS SON YESHUA, BUT ONLY THROUGH THE HS..."

son of a prophet said...

well.....as this board will be closed soon, as there will no longger be a need for it, i fugured i have done my job.

when i first came to this board, no either knew very much about, much less talked about the HS.

for all the relgion talked aoubt on this board in its very early stages, i dont recall EVEN ONE POST speaking abuot the HS.

now, at least, i got it into everyones vocabulary.

i figure, like k, my job is done here. its been fun, but there is still much more work to be done.

will have to see where the HS leads me to his next project.

but i will still be around until the board is closed completely.

ITS BEEN FUN!

son of a prophet said...

"YOU CANT KNOW GOD, BUT ONLY THROUGH HIS SON YESHUA; AND

YOU CANT KNOW HIS SON YESHUA, BUT ONLY THROUGH THE HS..."


THE MISTAKES THAT BOTH CHRISTIANS AND JEWS MAKE:


jews think that they can know GOD without knowing HIS SON, YESHUA

christians (99.9% of them) think that they can know yeshua without knowing the HS

BOTH OF THESE ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.

neodemes said...

sop sez:

"fier up the girll!!"

:-O

son of a prophet said...

OK. now you got you dg money. where you gonna put it?

govt. thiefs wont get it?


January 14, 2007

Military Is Expanding Its Intelligence Role in U.S.

By ERIC LICHTBLAU and MARK MAZZETTI

WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 — The Pentagon has been using a little-known power to obtain banking and credit records of hundreds of Americans and others suspected of terrorism or espionage inside the United States, part of an aggressive expansion by the military into domestic intelligence gathering.

The C.I.A. has also been issuing what are known as national security letters to gain access to financial records from American companies, though it has done so only rarely, intelligence officials say.

Banks, credit card companies and other financial institutions receiving the letters usually have turned over documents voluntarily, allowing investigators to examine the financial assets and transactions of American military personnel and civilians, officials say.

The F.B.I., the lead agency on domestic counterterrorism and espionage, has issued thousands of national security letters since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, provoking criticism and court challenges from civil liberties advocates who see them as unjustified intrusions into Americans’ private lives.

But it was not previously known, even to some senior counterterrorism officials, that the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency have been using their own “noncompulsory” versions of the letters. Congress has rejected several attempts by the two agencies since 2001 for authority to issue mandatory letters, in part because of concerns about the dangers of expanding their role in domestic spying.

The military and the C.I.A. have long been restricted in their domestic intelligence operations, and both are barred from conducting traditional domestic law enforcement work. The C.I.A.’s role within the United States has been largely limited to recruiting people to spy on foreign countries.

Carl Kropf, a spokesman for the director of national intelligence, said intelligence agencies like the C.I.A. used the letters on only a “limited basis.”

Pentagon officials defended the letters as valuable tools and said they were part of a broader strategy since the Sept. 11 attacks to use more aggressive intelligence-gathering tactics — a priority of former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. The letters “provide tremendous leads to follow and often with which to corroborate other evidence in the context of counterespionage and counterterrorism,” said Maj. Patrick Ryder, a Pentagon spokesman.

Government lawyers say the legal authority for the Pentagon and the C.I.A. to use national security letters in gathering domestic records dates back nearly three decades and, by their reading, was strengthened by the antiterrorism law known as the USA Patriot Act.

Pentagon officials said they used the letters to follow up on a variety of intelligence tips or leads. While they would not provide details about specific cases, military intelligence officials with knowledge of them said the military had issued the letters to collect financial records regarding a government contractor with unexplained wealth, for example, and a chaplain at Guantánamo Bay erroneously suspected of aiding prisoners at the facility.

Usually, the financial documents collected through the letters do not establish any links to espionage or terrorism and have seldom led to criminal charges, military officials say. Instead, the letters often help eliminate suspects.

“We may find out this person has unexplained wealth for reasons that have nothing to do with being a spy, in which case we’re out of it,” said Thomas A. Gandy, a senior Army counterintelligence official.

But even when the initial suspicions are unproven, the documents have intelligence value, military officials say. In the next year, they plan to incorporate the records into a database at the Counterintelligence Field Activity office at the Pentagon to track possible threats against the military, Pentagon officials said. Like others interviewed, they would speak only on the condition of anonymity.

Military intelligence officers have sent letters in up to 500 investigations over the last five years, two officials estimated. The number of letters is likely to be well into the thousands, the officials said, because a single case often generates letters to multiple financial institutions. For its part, the C.I.A. issues a handful of national security letters each year, agency officials said. Congressional officials said members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees had been briefed on the use of the letters by the military and the C.I.A.

Some national security experts and civil liberties advocates are troubled by the C.I.A. and military taking on domestic intelligence activities, particularly in light of recent disclosures that the Counterintelligence Field Activity office had maintained files on Iraq war protesters in the United States in violation of the military’s own guidelines. Some experts say the Pentagon has adopted an overly expansive view of its domestic role under the guise of “force protection,” or efforts to guard military installations.

“There’s a strong tradition of not using our military for domestic law enforcement,” said Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker, a former general counsel at both the National Security Agency and the C.I.A. who is the dean at the McGeorge School of Law at the University of the Pacific. “They’re moving into territory where historically they have not been authorized or presumed to be operating.”

Similarly, John Radsan, an assistant general counsel at the C.I.A. from 2002 to 2004 and now a law professor at William Mitchell College of Law in St. Paul, said, “The C.I.A. is not supposed to have any law enforcement powers, or internal security functions, so if they’ve been issuing their own national security letters, they better be able to explain how they don’t cross the line.”

The Pentagon’s expanded intelligence-gathering role, in particular, has created occasional conflicts with other federal agencies. Pentagon efforts to post American military officers at embassies overseas to gather intelligence for counterterrorism operations or future war plans has rankled some State Department and C.I.A. officials, who see the military teams as duplicating and potentially interfering with the intelligence agency.

In the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has complained about military officials dealing directly with local police — rather than through the bureau — for assistance in responding to possible terrorist threats against a military base. F.B.I. officials say the threats have often turned out to be uncorroborated and, at times, have stirred needless anxiety.

The military’s frequent use of national security letters has sometimes caused concerns from the businesses receiving them, a counterterrorism official said. Lawyers at financial institutions, which routinely provide records to the F.B.I. in law enforcement investigations, have contacted bureau officials to say they were confused by the scope of the military’s requests and whether they were obligated to turn the records over, the official said.

Companies are not eager to turn over sensitive financial data about customers to the government, the official said, “so the more this is done, and the more poorly it’s done, the more pushback there is for the F.B.I.”

The bureau has frequently relied on the letters in recent years to gather telephone and Internet logs, financial information and other records in terrorism investigations, serving more than 9,000 letters in 2005, according to a Justice Department tally. As an investigative tool, the letters present relatively few hurdles; they can be authorized by supervisors rather than a court. Passage of the Patriot Act in October 2001 lowered the standard for issuing the letters, requiring only that the documents sought be “relevant” to an investigation and allowing records requests for more peripheral figures, not just targets of an inquiry.

Some Democrats have accused the F.B.I. of using the letters for fishing expeditions, and the American Civil Liberties Union won court challenges in two cases, one for library records in Connecticut and the other for Internet records in Manhattan. Concerned about possible abuses, Congress imposed new safeguards in extending the Patriot Act last year, in part by making clear that recipients of national security letters could contact a lawyer and seek court review. Congress also directed the Justice Department inspector general to study the F.B.I.’s use of the letters, a review that is continuing.

Unlike the F.B.I., the military and the C.I.A. do not have wide-ranging authority to seek records on Americans in intelligence investigations. But the expanded use of national security letters has allowed the Pentagon and the intelligence agency to collect records on their own. Sometimes, military or C.I.A. officials work with the F.B.I. to seek records, as occurred with an American translator who had worked for the military in Iraq and was suspected of having ties to insurgents.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Rumsfeld directed military lawyers and intelligence officials to examine their legal authorities to collect intelligence both inside the United States and abroad. They concluded that the Pentagon had “way more” legal tools than it had been using, a senior Defense Department official said.

Military officials say the Right to Financial Privacy Act of 1978, which establishes procedures for government access to sensitive banking data, first authorized them to issue national security letters. The military had used the letters sporadically for years, officials say, but the pace accelerated in late 2001, when lawyers and intelligence officials concluded that the Patriot Act strengthened their ability to use the letters to seek financial records on a voluntary basis and to issue mandatory letters to obtain credit ratings, the officials said.

The Patriot Act does not specifically mention military intelligence or C.I.A. officials in connection with the national security letters.

Some F.B.I. officials said they were surprised by the Pentagon’s interpretation of the law when military officials first informed them of it. “It was a very broad reading of the law,” a former counterterrorism official said.

While the letters typically have been used to trace the financial transactions of military personnel, they also have been used to investigate civilian contractors and people with no military ties who may pose a threat to the military, officials said. Military officials say they regard the letters as one of the least intrusive means to gather evidence. When a full investigation is opened, one official said, it has now become “standard practice” to issue such letters.

One prominent case in which letters were used to obtain financial records, according to two military officials, was that of a Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, who was suspected in 2003 of aiding terror suspects imprisoned at the facility. The espionage case against the chaplain, James J. Yee, soon collapsed.

Eugene Fidell, a defense lawyer for the former chaplain and a military law expert, said he was unaware that military investigators may have used national security letters to obtain financial information about Mr. Yee, nor was he aware that the military had ever claimed the authority to issue the letters.

Mr. Fidell said he found the practice “disturbing,” in part because the military does not have the same checks and balances when it comes to Americans’ civil rights as does the F.B.I. “Where is the accountability?” he asked. “That’s the evil of it — it doesn’t leave fingerprints.”

Even when a case is closed, military officials said they generally maintain the records for years because they may be relevant to future intelligence inquiries. Officials at the Pentagon’s counterintelligence unit say they plan to incorporate those records into a database, called Portico, on intelligence leads. The financial documents will not be widely disseminated, but limited to investigators, an intelligence official said.

“You don’t want to destroy something only to find out that the same guy comes up in another report and you don’t know that he was investigated before,” the official said.

The Counterintelligence Field Activity office, created in 2002 to better coordinate the military’s efforts to combat foreign intelligence services, has drawn criticism for some domestic intelligence activities.

The agency houses an antiterrorist database of intelligence tips and threat reports, known as Talon, which had been collecting information on antiwar planning meetings at churches, libraries and other locations. The Defense Department has since tightened its procedures for what kind of information is allowed into the Talon database, and the counterintelligence office also purged more than 250 incident reports from the database that officials determined should never have been included because they centered on lawful political protests by people opposed to the war in Iraq.

provb1022 said...

Sometimes our worst perceived accidents, end up being a blessing in disguise in the end. When your life is out of control, you still have control of your thoughts and that's the most precious and valuable real estate there is between your two ears.
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Mogel thanks for an excellent sermon .. You really impress and encourage me with your knowledge and experience. You really are a blessing to me and Im sure many others.

son of a prophet said...

Scenario of "24" Parallels Real Plan!

IS FOX SET TO BLOW THE NUKES ON '24'?

Scenario for new season parallels real plan - to use domestic terrorism as excuse to suspend Constitution, imprison people with a wide net, and end liberties as we know them



Premier Episode of '24' Very Disturbing In Light of Current Erosion of Personal Liberty and Freedoms Lost Since



IS FOX SET TO BLOW THE NUKES ON '24'?
Sun Jan 14 2007 18:14:34 ET

As Washington continues to raise concerns about terror threats on The Homeland -- a recent CIA report outlined a scenerio of possible "series of explosions using 'low charge' nuclear weapons" -- Hollywood and FOX-TV are set to up the ante with the new season of 24!

Few outside of the 24 set know the exact details of the new season unfolding, but studio sources claim producers are pushing hard to take it radioactive this time -- and keep it there.

"Time to wake the country up!" a top FOX source told the DRUDGE REPORT over the weekend. "I do not think there has ever been TV done like this, the viewer is going to be completely riveted."

The source claims executives are prepared for any fallout from local municipalities that may be on the receiving end of plot turns and twists. How many cities 24 puts on 'nuke alert' is unclear.

FOX has set a highly-controversial espisode of 24 to air Monday night, opposite NBC's GOLDEN GLOBES.

In 2002, White House officials questioned the timing and release of PARAMOUNT's action movie SUM OF ALL FEARS -- a movie which depicts a nuclear bomb unleashed on an American sporting event!

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