Friday, January 26, 2007

New Dawn Psalm (12-31-06)

You set the sun upon its course
And the dawn of every new day is by your decree
Those who are bent down by their troubles
Rise to a new day by the same decree
Early I enter your court to give you praise
I love the harmony of the voices there
Every creature great and small knows your worth
Anxiety bites at my heals like a snake
But the Lord lifts me up to a safe path
Though my eyes dart back and forth looking for my salvation
My heart is fixed upon your promises
Delight my God in the praise upon my lips
And give me place to sing them over my enemy
Proud and wicked men judge me without equity
They disguise their evil intent under the category “justice”
How many times have you saved, how many generations
Are they still so dense not to fear you
Humble them and show that you will not be mocked
Enter in to my troubles to work your good
For who is not overwhelmed by your steadfast love
Your mercies and loving kindness renew me
My strength comes from you casting my fears afar off
Like the fragrance of flowers in bloom
My life is sweet and full of your glory
Exalt the Messiah my Lord and King
Make my life a treasure for His pleasure
For He has awed me by His faith
And proved to me your word is trustworthy

65 comments:

oksurewhynot said...

old news again.
Boring

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
We need some more crock and crow on the barbie. Great balls of fire, Imbigo, fire it up!

mogel the moron,

imbigo has ran out of propane, so there will be now crow-b-que anytime soon.

He is probably waiting for that compensation you so ignorantly referred to when feeding that line of BS to Dr. Jeff.

Don't worry though, moogie, the sand in the hour glass is running and soon enough it will all have run out on the dim duo and your pathetic cheerleading.

justice77777777 said...

Stillwaiting said...
Don't get me wrong I have not heard one good thing out of Kurt about mortgage cancellation. Not even sure what he writes is that good for a bible study class. I know as I attend one every week and sometimes we discuss what K has written. Most of the people in my BSC have no idea what he is talking about nor where it is going.

I have to say this is one of the best post by anyone in a long time.

The people I ask to read these writings don't call this man a hero, but do refer him to a calculating, and egotisitcal maniac.

mogel said...

Still Waiting said: "Don't get me wrong I have not heard one good thing out of Kurt about mortgage cancellation."

Kurt said: "Dorean followed the self-help remedy of an aggrieved party to the letter. Even if the bank thought they had a legitimate claim they failed to assert it in a timely manner."

Still Waiting said: "Wouldn't it be something to visit this blog and read something about the process, the trial,"

Kurt said: "Out of the 60,000 documents probably dozens of witnesses, 7 judges, about the same in prosecutors and not one testimony under oath that I have any liability to USC 18, 1341, 1343, 1344, etc. Without that EVERY OPINION IS A LIE WITHOUT MEANING.

Still Waiting said: "Most of the people in my BSC have no idea what he is talking about nor where it is going."

Mogel said: "May I suggest you attend another Bible study class where people's reading comprehension is better."

mogel said...

Justice said: "The people I ask to read these writings don't call this man a hero, but do refer him to a calculating, and egotisitcal maniac."
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How many egotistical people do you know ask people to seek the will of the Lord?

How many egotistical people do you know call themselves a sinner too and talk about the bad as well as the good in themselves and take responsibility for their actions?

How many egotistical persons do you know set up a blog to educate people & provide as much full disclosure as they can?

How many "maniacs" do you know that put their righteous cause & beliefs on the line by giving up their freedom rather than fleeing the country for safety?

A hero is a courageous person that puts others interests first. The Dorean Process was intended to put the Principals at legal risk, while getting the clients interests taken care of. The process is unique & controversial in that it's never been done before in that who would take title away from the lender & do it based upon legal and personal principals that haven't been challenged before? Why can't you see the heroism and risks inherent there?

I don't see a courageous person as egotistical. For the life of me, I don't understand where you are coming from. An egotistical person is selfish & doesn't have the ability to be humble.

A person who is "calculating" ISN'T A MANIAC. A maniac is a person who is out of control that makes decisions impulsively and selfishly and without rhyme or reason.

An out of control person doesn't have inner peace in times of extreme adversity and risk.

neodemes said...

LOL

What a crock.

mogel said...

Justice said: Don't worry though, moogie, the sand in the hour glass is running and soon enough it will all have run out on the dim duo and your pathetic cheerleading.
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Wasn't it you that said you believed things could be dragged out 3 years when you quoted something that someone allegedly heard Kurt say if the plea bargaining wasn't accepted?

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
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Wasn't it you that said you believed things could be dragged out 3 years when you quoted something that someone allegedly heard Kurt say if the plea bargaining wasn't accepted?

According to the latest info, the March date for trial is holding its course.

Tobias took a deal of 33 months and that hearing wasn't without its own monkey wrench during his actual sentencing.

So, yes I did say that, but as it stands now, by April of this year, you will have no more crap to spew.

mogel said...

Justice said: "So, yes I did say that, but as it stands now, by April of this year, you will have no more crap to spew."
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Certainly you don't believe the trial will only take one month, to prove the prosecutions case of fraud?

mogel said...

Justice: The latest OHIO case (2006) where another "vapour money" case bit the dust, the Judge cited the following in his ruling:

Nixon v. Individual Head of the St. Joseph Mortgage Co. (N.D.Ind. 1985), 615 F.Supp. 898, 900 ("a bank or mortgage company check can be converted into legal tender. * * * It represents a liability of the company, so that the Mortgage Company has in fact given something of value — IT'S PROMISE TO PAY THE FACE AMOUNT OF THE CHECK").

In other words, a PROMISE to pay in and of itself ALONE, is considered VALUABLE CONSIDERATION when it suits the Court's rulings.

I can't wait to see the prosecution rebut the validity of the Dorean "subrogation bond" when a PROMISE HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AS GOOD ENOUGH CONSIDERATION IN THE LATEST COURT RULING ON THIS SUBJECT. The lenders accepted this consideration from the Dorean Group, so why are they know changing their viewpoint & calling fowl or fraud? You can't have it both ways. It's "like a two headed coin".

The Dorean Bond paid off the debt, is valid consideration, if the debt ever existed at all. After all, the Courts consistently say that you don't need legal tender to pay off a debt. You just need a promise to pay AND THAT'S LEGAL AND VALUABLE.

Maybe the hypocrisy and lies of the Court rulings in the past can be used against them to throw their whole basis of fraud against the Dorean Group out of court.

Course reason and fairness hasn't always been the Court's standard or something that can be counted upon.

rom8:9 said...

The prophet in his day is fully accepted of God and totally rejected by men.

Years back, Dr. Gregory Mantle was right when he said, "No man can be fully accepted until he is totally rejected." The prophet of the Lord is aware of both these experiences. They are his "brand name."
The group, challenged by the prophet because they are smug and comfortably insulated from a perishing world in their warm but untested theology, is not likely to vote him "Man of the year" when he refers to them as habituates of the synagogue of Satan!
The prophet comes to set up that which is upset. His work is to call into line those who are out of line! He is unpopular because he opposes the popular in morality and spirituality. In a day of faceless politicians and voiceless preachers, there is not a more urgent national need than that we cry to God for a prophet! The function of the prophet, as Austin-Sparks once said, "has almost always been that of recovery."
The prophet is God's detective seeking for a lost treasure. The degree of his effectiveness is determined by his measure of unpopularity. Compromise is not known to him.

He has no price tags.
He is totally "otherworldly."
He is unquestionably controversial and unpardonably hostile.
He marches to another drummer!
He breathes the rarefied air of inspiration.
He is a "seer" who comes to lead the blind.
He lives in the heights of God and comes into the valley with a "thus saith the Lord."
He shares some of the foreknowledge of God and so is aware of impending judgment.
He lives in "splendid isolation."
He is forthright and outright, but he claims no birthright.
His message is "repent, be reconciled to God or else...!"
His prophecies are parried.
His truth brings torment, but his voice is never void.
He is the villain of today and the hero of tomorrow.
He is excommunicated while alive and exalted when dead!
He is dishonored with epithets when breathing and honored with epitaphs when dead.
He is a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, but few "make the grade" in his class.
He is friendless while living and famous when dead.
He is against the establishment in ministry; then he is established as a saint by posterity.
He eats daily the bread of affliction while he ministers, but he feeds the Bread of Life to those who listen.
He walks before men for days but has walked before God for years.
He is a scourge to the nation before he is scourged by the nation.
He announces, pronounces, and denounces!
He has a heart like a volcano and his words are as fire.
He talks to men about God.
He carries the lamp of truth amongst heretics while he is lampooned by men.
He faces God before he faces men, but he is self-effacing.
He hides with God in the secret place, but he has nothing to hide in the marketplace.
He is naturally sensitive but supernaturally spiritual.
He has passion, purpose and pugnacity.
He is ordained of God but disdained by men.

Our national need at this hour is not that the dollar recover its strength, or that we save face over the Watergate affair, or that we find the answer to the ecology problem. We need a God-sent prophet!
I am bombarded with talk or letters about the coming shortages in our national life:
bread, fuel, energy. I read between the lines from people not practiced in scaring folk. They feel that the "seven years of plenty" are over for us. The "seven years of famine" are ahead. But the greatest famine of all in this nation at this given moment is a FAMINE OF THE HEARING OF THE WORDS OF GOD (Amos 8:11).
Millions have been spent on evangelism in the last twenty-five years. Hundreds of gospel messages streak through the air over the nation every day. Crusades have been held; healing meetings have made a vital contribution. "Come-outers" have "come out" and settled, too, without a nation-shaking revival. Organizers we have. Skilled preachers abound. Multi-million dollar Christian organizations straddle the nation. BUT where, oh where, is the prophet? Where are the incandescent men fresh from the holy place? Where is the Moses to plead in fasting before the holiness of the Lord for our moldy morality, our political perfidy, and sour and sick spirituality?

GOD'S MEN ARE IN HIDING UNTIL THE DAY OF THEIR SHOWINGFORTH.
They will come. The prophet is violated during his ministry, but he is vindicated by history.
There is a terrible vacuum in evangelical Christianity today. The missing person in our ranks is the prophet. The man with a terrible earnestness. The man totally otherworldly. The man rejected by other men, even other good men, because they consider him too austere, too severely committed, too negative and unsociable.
Let him be as plain as John the Baptist.
Let him for a season be a voice crying in the wilderness of modern theology and stagnant "churchianity."
Let him be as selfless as Paul the apostle.
Let him, too, say and live, "This ONE thing I do."
Let him reject ecclesiastical favors.
Let him be self-abasing, nonself-seeking, nonself-projecting, nonself- righteous, nonself-glorying, nonself-promoting.
Let him say nothing that will draw men to himself but only that which will move men to God.
Let him come daily from the throne room of a holy God, the place where he has received the order of the day.
Let him, under God, unstop the ears of the millions who are deaf through the clatter of shekels milked from this hour of material mesmerism.
Let him cry with a voice this century has not heard because he has seen a vision no man in this century has seen. God send us this Moses to lead us from the wilderness of crass materialism, where the rattlesnakes of lust bite us and where enlightened men, totally blind spiritually, lead us to an ever-nearing Armageddon.
God have mercy! Send us PROPHETS!

neodemes said...

moogie gushed:

"In other words, a PROMISE to pay in and of itself ALONE, is considered VALUABLE CONSIDERATION when it suits the Court's rulings."

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WOW! You got 'em right where you wan't 'em now, cowboy!

(Hey, don't it get drafty wearin' nothin' but chaps?)

They didn't say the promise to pay paid off the debt, genius, hence the need for collateral value of the house in a home mortgage.

The conviction of Tobias ought to give you a clue that your heroes are toast.

rom8:9 said...

son of a prophet,

amen to last four posts

tcob247 said...

SOP

another great Chinese philosopher said

"he who go through turnstile sideways going to bangkok"

neodemes said...

Ancient Chinese Secret

"Nude girl who drink beer on beach get sand in her Schlitz"

mogel said...

Nemo the croc: Read what was said slowly: ("a bank or mortgage company check can be converted into legal tender. * * * It represents a liability of the company, so that the Mortgage Company has in fact given something of value — IT'S PROMISE TO PAY THE FACE AMOUNT OF THE CHECK").

A check is money is it not? A bond is money, is it not? It can be converted into legal tender sometimes, can it not, so why can't a check which is not backed by anything, much like a promise to pay, or a bond, be used to pay a perceived obligation off? All of these instruments are accepted and acceptable in the world of commerce. The banks can convert these instruments into the value they want or need through their computer entries.

The mortgage company didn't give a true loan, but it doesn't matter according to the ruling because the lender did give something of value, according to the latest court ruling in Ohio, if you read between the lines & read the whole ruling in it's proper context.

The original consideration of the agreement was that the lender was to give a loan. They did not do that, but that contention by the Appellant is irrelevant according to the court since the lender gave the borrower, a promise to pay (much like what a check is) which is all the consideration the court says is necessary to fulfill the agreement. We gave the same valuable thing back through the bond, hence the debt is gone. Value for value, a debt for a debt. How fairer can one get? How can fairness and fraud exist at the same time? If you treat someone the same way that you were treated, does that make you a crook?

HJR 192 says you can't discriminate on the manner of payment as long as the manner of payment is acceptable in commerce, since legal tender (gold or silver) can't be demanded as payment due to the country's bankruptcy in 1935.

A Federal Reserve note (US Dollar) is not legal tender. It's a promise to pay. It's widely accepted, even though it's not constitutionally based, but the court doesn't care about constitutional issues anymore because the country sold out long ago to the interests and agenda of the banks.

Want to have a little fun. Go to a restaurant like Dees and ask the cashier if they accept "Federal Reserve Notes" for payment of the meal. Most of them will respond by saying "no", we just accept cash or credit cards or checks. Then you can say, "well that's all I brought with me was Federal Reserve Notes, what am I to do?" The point being, just because someone says they don't accept them, doesn't mean they don't or shouldn't or they don't have value.

Isn't money, simply money, whatever name you give to it.

mogel said...

SOP said: "who sold out samson. he allowed a "hairdresser" female to cut his hair, (and he also probably "did her") and then all his strenght was gone."
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Delilah, the hairdresser, was of another faith & didn't believe in God & God's ways. That's why Sampson lost his spiritual strength. He was told not to cut his hair. However, she was able to seduce him to do whatever she desired, so he no longer followed God nor was he receptive to God's spirit; that's how Sampson lost his strength because he lost his perspective. Sampsons strength came from God. God stopped supporting him because he stopped listening to specific instructions. Sampsons hair was just a symbol of his strength. There was no magical powers in his hair locks.

It's Christian like you, that also believe that a rib from man created a woman. No, that's just a figurative explanation, not intended to be taken literally.

mogel said...

SOP said: "that why the davinci code try to say that yeshua was intimate with mary magdalene, because if the ptb can bet peole to believe this lie, then yeshuas power would be diminished, as would anyones."
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"It is not good for man to be alone." "What God has joined together, let no man put asunder". There's a dozen other scriptures on this topic.

To say that marriage is not ordained of God, is to go against God's teachings.

If God wanted to create a super race of spiritually enlightened men only, he wouldn't have created a woman EVER.

To say that Jesus wasn't married, is to make God a hypocrite and a liar. It's like saying, "Come follow me, but do as I say, not as I do." What kind of leader is that?

The Catholic church perpetrated the myth that Jesus wasn't married because putting women on the same footing as men, like a true marriage should be, takes away from the power of man & the power of man's evil designs to control and manipulate women kind. Dominating & manipulating women's status, power, and position, "to make them know their place" throughout the centuries has been common place, especially in the old Church.

There is more evidence to say Jesus was married, than that he wasn't married.

The marriage issue whether he was married or not, is more of a "control issue" than a "spiritual issue".

What if having a fulfilling relationship with a woman actually brings you more spiritually intune with God & his purposes? That's a premise you have totally ignored to consider.

What about the apocraphal Book of Phillip that says, "Jesus often kissed Mary on the lips."

His culture at the time demanded he to be married to be a rabi. If he wasn't married, he would have been criticized specifically about that. That was never an issue which suggests he was married.

In the Jewish culture back then, the mother of the bridegroom was responsible for refreshments. At the "marriage of Cana", who told Jesus they were out of wine? Why it was Jesus's mother that brought that problem up to him. That suggests that his first miracle in public was in essence done at Jesus's own wedding.

mogel said...

Crockadile tongue said: "They didn't say the promise to pay paid off the debt, genius, hence the need for collateral value of the house in a home mortgage."
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Actually the UCC 3603 does say that. "A tender of payment refused is acceptance that the payment obligation is paid in full." If the banks are refusing the bonds, there is no more controversy or debate necessary. It's a settled issue or case, not worthy of the courts consideration. Therefore, why are we in court?

If the obligation no longer exists, how can fraud be proven? Filing paperwork in accordance with that is just finalizing the agreement and following the law.

Read it and weep, crocidile boy.

Kreike!!!!!!!

habakkuk said...

Mogel said...

If the obligation no longer exists, how can fraud be proven? Filing paperwork in accordance with that is just finalizing the agreement and following the law.

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Hey mogel, these guys dont understand that because they refuse to research for themselves....and then they come on this blog and say we're ignorant.

mogel said...

Defendants assert that the debt is discharged according to the Uniform Commercial Code, Title 13, Section 3603 (b) by tendering the Dorean bond. A copy of the bond is attached in every presentment for each client.

If the bond is refused, since it's a legitimate tender of payment, the debt is paid according to the Uniform Commercial Code. If the dorean tender of payment wasn't legitimate, it would have been proven long before now and the trust company would have been out of business long ago.


If the bond is accepted, through the behaviour of the lenders keeping the bond instruments, and not returning them or refusing them, then, why are the Defendants in Federal court on this witch hunt of fraud allegations. If no debt exists, the contract is fulfilled, there can't be any damages, much less any fraud that can be proven. Also the Court and prison system is exercising jurisdiction they never were entitled to over the Dorean Group and Brokers through false charges.

Either way the prosecution has no case, so why the gloom & fear by the naysayers?

mogel said...

SOP said: "again, it seems as with ANY ENDEAVOR a man pursues, once the woman factor is removed, he can only then reach the highest levels of concentration."
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So in other words, women are a liability, a drain on a man's potential or concentration to achieve?

So there can't be a synergistic effect with a man & a woman?

If that's true, why would God sanction marriage?

You still can't see why I came to the conclusions I did based upon what you said?

mogel said...

SOP said: "of course, tho marriage has NOTHING whatsoever to do with spritual enlightenment."
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Don't ever let your wife hear you say that. :o)

mogel said...

If Jesus wasn't married, it would not have been culturally accepted in his day to often kiss Mary on the lips with such familiarity & in many public places that he did. If they were married, it would have been expected & accepted. The Book of Phillip, comes out & says that, & immediately the idea is rejected simply because it's an apocryaphal writing?

Didn't Jesus appear first to Mary shortly after he was resurrected & even BEFORE he appeared to his SPIRITUALLY ENLIGHTENED beloved 12 Apostles. See Mark 16: 9 "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared FIRST TO MARY MAGDALENE, out of whom he had cast seven devils."

Why would that be if there wasn't a real close relationship between Mary Magdalene & Jesus? Mary called out "Rabonaii", meaning something significant; might even indicate the close relationship they had. Mary Magadale definitely was in the "inner circle" of Jesus's close friends or primary relationships; another intriguing thing.

Mary was told to tell the other apostles that He had risen. Why is that? Why her if not a real close relationship like his wife? What better witness of the resurrection than a wife?

Mark 16: 10 "And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept." Isn't Mary being a comfort and a leader so to speak, to the 12 apostles by giving them the news?

How did the spiritually enlightened 12 apostles react:
Mark 16: 11 "And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been SEEN OF HER, BELIEVED NOT."

Don't you think Mary Magdalene had a special devotion to Him after Jesus cast out many devils that were in her? Don't you think that was God ordained for special reasons TO BRING A CLOSENESS BETWEEN THEM & CREATE AN EVERLASTING BOND?

Wasn't Mary Magdalene was also near the cross when he was crucified? In several movies I've seen, this was only allowed for "family".

A good argument could be made, that she was Jesus's best friend if not his wife, don't you think?

There's too many events involving Mary Magdale to totally ignore or discount or try to explain away her real relationship.

mogel said...

John 20: 1

"The first day of the week cometh, Mary Magdale EARLY, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre."

Now isn't that more than devotion or worship to come EARLY unless some sort of special relationship existed? Again, she was the first to notice that the rock was gone.

vs. 9 talks about the enlightenment of the apostles who obviously were spending too much time with their wives since it must have wrecked their spiritual concentration to get even the very basics down: LOL "For as yet, they knew not the scriptures, that he must rise again from the dead."

vs. 10: "Then the disciples went away again UNTO THEIR OWN HOME.

vs. 11: "But Mary STOOD WITHOUT AT THE SEPULCHRE WEEPING." Why was she weeping? Because that was HER HOME, HER FAMILY, HER HUSBAND, SO SHE STAYED WHEN THE OTHERS LEFT TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOMES AND FAMILY.

VS. 11 continued: "And as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,

vs. 12: "And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had laid."
Now mind you, the apostles weren't having this SAME spiritual experience because they lacked the concentration to stay.

vs. 13 "And they say unto here, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN AWAY MY LORD, AND I KNOW NOT WHERE THEY HAVE LAID HIM." It wouldn't be uncommon for a wife in that day, to refer to her husband, as her lord, would it? She's kind of possessive & personal in her speech, is she not, when she says, "MY LORD".

vs. 14 "And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing; and knew not that it was Jesus.

vs. 15: "Jesus saith unto her, "Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou has laid him, and I will take him away."

What take him away? What right would Mary Magdalene have to take away the body of Jesus if she weren't his wife?

vs. 16: "Jesus saith unto her, Mary, She turned herself, and saith unto him, RABBONNI, WHICH IS TO SAY, MASTER.
If they were married, certainly Jesus would be her Master. I'm not so sure that Master doesn't mean husband in this context.

vs. 17: Jesus saith unto her, TOUCH ME NOT; FOR I AM NOT YET ASCENDED TO MY FATHER; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father."

SOP: Why would Mary Magdale have the gall to even naturally think to touch Jesus if she wasn't his wife? Doesn't that one verse alone add credence to the Book of Phillip, when it said: "Jesus would often kiss Mary on the lips."

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
Either way the prosecution has no case, so why the gloom & fear by the naysayers?

Why didn't you explain this to Tobias before he decided to take a 33 month sentence without even going to trail?

Give us a valid explanation for this one, moogie?

There is no valid explanation. You can keep trying to convince everyone of the same old BS over and over again, but the ship started taking on water a long time ago, and started to sink when Tobias got 33 months.

mogel said...

Justice: I don't know what's going through Tobias's head or what motivates him or what motivated him to take a chance. 33 months still seems like a long time, although it does sound better than 10-15 years.

Maybe there's relief in knowing something is over rather than wondering & not knowing for sure where he stands & exactly how much time he is facing.

People will sometimes do unreasonable things for immediate satisfaction & immediate relief & removing all doubt.

Course I don't know everything that was said, or everything that was threatened against him either, or all of the issues that this sentence entails either, nor do I understand his mental or emotional state.

Maybe in the long run, he'll learn to regret his decision.

Maybe even he has mixed feelings in what he did; I can't say.

Some lose the faith due to their trials that are heaped upon them. I'm not qualified to judge him.

oksurewhynot said...

Let's forget about all this stuff until March. That gives us practice for when the trial is over.

mogel said...

The trial isn't going to be over in March if it even begins then.

son of a prophet said...

no, the HS does not tell me who keeps removing my posts....


as this is not important for me to know.....

son of a prophet said...

but, as they say about the most flak when over the target, i obviously have somebodys attention.

so who/why would they want to remove all my posts????


does what i say somehow threaten them???


well, the truth is always threatening i guess......

son of a prophet said...

i guess they have just provided me more info as i alwasys assume tht all blogs are somehow monitored.

yes, the HS told me that and now "they" have confirmed it be removing my posts....

son of a prophet said...

when faced with irrefutable truth, they will somehow react as the truth is like poison to them and they can bear it...

son of a prophet said...

"...and they can bear it."


correction: "and they CANT bear it"

son of a prophet said...

the HS by allwoing my posts to be removed confirms to me that i am on target as i have had what, the last 4-5 posts removed.

this lets me know that i am locked on to the truth as thousands of people post religious nonsesnse and are not censored.

why?? because they dont have the truth. but when you have the truth, it bothers people and eventually, if you bring the turht often enuf, as yeshua said, they will begin to dislike you.

but, as yeshua also said, when they begin to dslike you, its a blessing, as you know that the HS is working and you have the turht and that the evil cant bear to hear it.

son of a prophet said...

truth is like when you sitting in an F-14 Tomcat and the bogey is directly ahead of you and you get ready to fire when the console says tht you have "missile lock"

thats the truth; like a heat seeking missile tht acuires the target in missile lock

IT DOESNT MISS! -------> +

neodemes said...

Aw, gee SOP, are your posts being removed?

Funny, but, I hadn't noticed.

Whoever posts Kurt's crap for him is the entity deleting your crap.

Whatever his/her name may be...THANKS!

tcob247 said...

actually the HS told me that he was removing your posts

said he was embarrased that you were using his name

son of a prophet said...

"Whoever posts Kurt's crap for him is the entity deleting your crap.


i dont think mogel would do this even tho we disagree on a lot of thinkgs biblical.

son of a prophet said...

all the deleted posts related to my refuting mogels idea that yeshua was married to mary magdalene.

mary magazine was a good friend, but they were definitely not married and were not sex partners.

mogel said...

SOP: You're right! Some of your posts have been removed. Are you sure it wasn't a mistake on your part & you accidently deleted some of your own posts? If not, then someone or something has deleted some of your posts. Can't understand why someone would do that. There was nothing worth editing or deleting such as offenses or bad language.

I was answering some of your comments that no longer exist, now it looks like I'm talking to myself and answering myself now on some comments I made. :o)

Computers do funny things sometimes. Maybe it happened by mistake with no mal intent whatsoever.

son of a prophet said...

i thoght that this tobias charcter was in for tax evasion, trying to protest taxes like schiff, not moongage elimation???

somenone is making this S**t up.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "Whoever posts Kurt's crap for him is the entity deleting your crap."
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That seems to be the best explanation, but there seems to be no motive if that's true, so it's hard to accept that too. Or maybe I'm just missing the motive here.

Maybe we should just go with Tycob's explanation. If we go with Tycob, then, it might be reasonable to say, Jesus was married & the H.S. was performing a miracle or an act of deleting wrong information said by you, S.O.P.

Or we can go with you, S.O.P, & say that your truth offended someone, or someone is playing with you.

If anyone has a better explanation, I'd like to hear it.

It's a fact that posts were deleted.

Another possibility is that some spyware was sent to your computer SOP, & someone deleted some of your own posts. If that's the case, I'd be a little concerned someone has gotten into your system.

Or I do remember someone hoping someone else would send you a computer virus. I kind of doubt that happened though, but it's kind of strange the threat was previously made in the first place not too long ago.

Or it's just a computer fluke with no offense intended or something mal functioned on this website.

Anyway, this is all strange!!!!

mogel said...

SOP said: "i thoght that this tobias charcter was in for tax evasion, trying to protest taxes like schiff, not moongage elimation???"
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That's exactly the point I was making earlier that could have been in part or in the whole that contributed to the 33 months Tobias received.

Maybe his participation in other activities made him a government target too on the mortgage challenge/elimination issue since they were already watching him & in fact he was already in custody for other activities.

If the government sends a message that participation in either activity has a cost associated with it, then, the government obtains their objectives & discourages others from trying to prove anything.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

S op's
W ords
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whataboutjere said...

I agree with TCOB, I believe that the HS got sick of Johnny's (AKA SOP) B.S. and sent Johnny a message. It's a no wonder the brass at FCUSA can't stand when he gets on their calls and babbles on and on and on. SWAMI, let's hope it stays that way.

Yetter said...

Kurt said..."God is a respector of free choice. He has given all associated with this battle a chance to place their flag in the territory of their heart."
If the banks didn't accept the Dorean bond as payment, why are endorsed copys showing up in banks in Europe?

Peanut Gallery said...

mogel wrote

"The first day of the week cometh, Mary Magdale EARLY, when it was yet dark,
Now isn't that more than devotion or worship to come EARLY

Early the next day means after sundown of the preceeding day , not just before sunrise the next day.

the days were kept from sundown to sundown, not sunrise to sunrise.
This is why sunrise services are so stupid, because the Messiah Yeshua rose just after sundown on the Sabbath after passover and not on easter Sun(whorship)day

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I'm feeling my little finger get a little itchy. Should I delete more of SOP's posts or not? Please let's have a show of hands. Better yet......like in the days of the Roman Empire...........Thumbs Up...or Thumbs Down? I do hope the lions enjoy the taste of SOP.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Yetter said...
If the banks didn't accept the Dorean bond as payment, why are endorsed copys showing up in banks in Europe?




Yetter, can you share proof of this? If this is true, this charade and game by the banks............IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

I once participated in the Old Propertysites forums until our old friend Neodemes scared the owner to shut them down. I've started a thread called " The Old Propertysites Gang" on another forum. Below is the link. I strongly suggest you participate just in case this blog is no more. It would give everyone another way to stay in contact with each other.

http://www.nobodyswatching.tv/board/viewtopic.php?p=10836#10836

son of a prophet said...

"Are you sure it wasn't a mistake on your part & you accidently deleted some of your own posts?



IMPOSSIBLE. I CHECKED THE POSTS TO SEE IF THEY WERE POSTED AND THEY WERE. THEY WERE APPARENTLY DELETED SOME TIME AFTER I CHEKCED THEM.


HMMMMM...........SO NOW WE HAVE A "MYSTERY" ON OUR HANDS, DONT WE???


THE MYSTERY OF THE DISAPPEARING POST.


IF SO, THEN SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THIS BLOG

MORTGAGE ELIMINATION OR NO MORTGAGE ELIMIATION.


THIS EVENTS HAS THROWN THIS WHOLE BLOGS LEGITIMACY AND INTEGRITY INTO QUESTION.

son of a prophet said...

as far as a computer virus, i would think that it would be difficult (not impossible)

as there are no attachments to this blog or .html tags and i have pretty decent virus scan programs running, it would be hard.

not impossible, becasue if the CIA is running this board, then they have the wizards who know all the backdoor holes in WINDOWS yet to be "discovered" and patches created for.

so if the illuminati CIA wanted to plant a virus then they could. but then this is a level of sophistication beyond the average person.

no. the operator of this board has done it. who that is, the HS hasnt told me.....yet......

son of a prophet said...

of course someone did place a site on here a couple of days ago in a post which went to a site that contained a trojan horse in it.

but i use a separate computer to chekc those types of things and firefox in safe mode whihc means no script.

and the other computer is loaded to the hilt with anti everything

spyware, virus, firewall on high, etc. etc.

so anything would be virtually impossible to plant there unless like i said, it was CIA s**t.

but then again, why would CIA bother with this piddly S**T
when if they wnated to, they could just come in the middle of the night and kidnap yo, and nver be found again?

son of a prophet said...

somebody try to put a


Win32:Zlob-SR Trojan Horse


the virus software nailed it.

son of a prophet said...

agree with TCOB, I believe that the HS got sick of Johnny's (AKA SOP) B.S. and sent Johnny a message. It's a no wonder the brass at FCUSA can't stand when he gets on their calls and babbles on and on and on. SWAMI, let's hope it stays that way.



and only becasue i think that fcusa is a good program, i will tell you that i do read their site occasionally but do not know who "johnny" is and do not call in on their confrence calls.

you may beleive me or not, but i would never try to harm a progarm that i think is good for people.

so i dont know wheter you are just making this up or not, but i am not/would not calling fcusa and harrassing them.

mogel said...

If the banks didn't accept the Dorean bond as payment, why are endorsed copys showing up in banks in Europe?
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Wow, that would be nice to show the court! That would be kind of hard to explain away. I got paid, but I want to get paid again.

papa_dont_preach said...

Yetter, are you freakin SERIOUS???

whataboutjere said...

Okay "Johnny" heres where you have been caught in a lie. Only members would know that offshore site you keep referring too that your going to.

Yeah Yetter, wheres the proof or are you getting your information from the prophet?

Yetter said...

All proper documents are numbered and transactions are traceable,even if they are bundled and sold on the derivative market.

son of a prophet said...

OK, OK, you got me.

i am not jonny, but he calls me up all the time and told me tht offsho site you talkin about.

jonny must be lucky one, as theres only 12 people who know that offsho site. jonny and 11 otheres......


LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOOOLLLOO!!!!!!!!!

son of a prophet said...

AND ONE OF THE 11 OHTERS IS YOU, AS YOU SEEM TO KNOW WHAY IT EEZ.

SO HOW DO U KNOW ABOUT IT?


MAYBE DR. F tole yu.

son of a prophet said...

you just trying to distrack me form talking about HS

but i already know what you tryin to du so it won wurks.

whataboutjere said...

Yeah, I'm distracting you from your Jones' koolaid wacko juice. Your fault is that you think the truth you thought you've found is everybody else's truth but your wrong, DEAD WRONG. You need to stop spamming this board. Just like when Judy yelled at you for spammin other fcusa members with this same hocus pocus crap.

mogel said...

Yetter said: "All proper documents are numbered and transactions are traceable,even if they are bundled and sold on the derivative market."
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So how does one go about tracing or tracking these Dorean bonds? Where does one start? Come to think of it, I do remember numbers on the subrogation bonds, or maybe there are other numbers that go on the documents in the shuffle?

So is it harder than tracking down a money order uncashed or a check uncashed? Seems to me this tracking might involve bank cooperation. Good luck with that.

So why not track this down & buy some of these instruments back & then file all of that in court as evidence that the debt was paid?