Monday, January 29, 2007

Suffering (01-01-07)

Suffering comes in many forms. In my new jail it comes to me in noise pollution and isolation. The TV comes on at 7 am outside my cell and the radio joins in around 11 am until midnight. They play a station called KMEL, which plays the same 20 songs over and over again. Most all being rap (my favorite) which to me is like Dr. Seuss becomes a gangster. They consist of a second grade vocabulary and a toddlers self-absorbed morality. The isolation is self-induced mostly because I have no community with the element surrounding me. Even with these tortures I am reminded that I have not suffered unto blood for the sake of Christ. Privacy is gone, my wife suffers, reputation is under ridicule but this is not violent like the passion. Mel Gibson brought a cinematic portrayal but reality was far more violent. To think Jesus as a man chose this course willingly for the sake of the integrity of God’s word should humble anyone who thinks God should honor them for their suffering. Actually part of the comfort I receive in my suffering is that I have the opportunity to share in some of the suffering of Christ when for His cause I am persecuted. Even in this God does not give me more than I can bear or ridicule me from my wimpy tolerance. Many have suffered for Christ in this thing called Dorean but take comfort in having a savior who knows suffering in greater measure and therefore can be full of compassion. After all this by His resurrection power He conquered, overcame, the tortures and their results so He could offer you a share in His victory. Enjoy the victory and know that the world not seeing it is evidence of its existence.

22 comments:

son of a prophet said...

BEST POST ON THIS BLOG OF ALL TIME!

BAR NONE!

E.O.S.

son of a prophet said...

"...WHEN YOU FEAR ME, NOW YOU ARE BEGINNING TO LEARN SOMETHING; YOU ARE GETTING THE HANG OF IT."



"FEAR OF THE LORD, IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM."


which means, you cant learn anythin until you fear god.


until you fear god, you will be one of those the bible quotes as "those who study and study and never come to knowledge of the truth."


why, never come to knowledge of the truth??

because they study the bible, but are missing one thing; they dont fear the LORD.

so their study is like steam from a pot of boiling water; it just harmelessly evaporates into the air lost for good.

son of a prophet said...

OK. now for something light after the heavy meal.

FOR CATHOLICS:

"HOW DO MAKE 'HOLY WATER' "

TAKE A POT OF WATER AND PUT IT ON THE STOVE AND BOIL THE HELL OUT OF IT!

god said...

Hehehehehe!!!! SOP, you know how to make god laugh.

whataboutjere said...

Yeah Johnny, I'm distracting you from your Jones' koolaid wacko juice. Your fault is that you think the truth you thought you've found is everybody else's truth but your wrong, DEAD WRONG. You need to stop spamming this board. Just like when Judy yelled at you for spammin other fcusa members with this same hocus pocus crap.

whataboutjere said...

Now on to more important questions. Yetter, are you saying that you have proof of what you claim?

son of a prophet said...

"You need to stop spamming this board




what??? you dont like spam & eggs?

Yetter said...

jere.Is it hard for you to believe its true?Isn't fraud the operative word here, or is all about Kurt?Paper of all kind is transacted millions of times a day. The market is like giant casino, anything and everything is traded under very little scrutiny. We just assume its true because it's red,white and blue.Paper doesnt neccessarily need to be cashed. It can be "bet" on or "hedged" at a future date for a hoped for outcome.You will know the truth some time in the near future wether in trial or settlement.

justice77777777 said...

Yetter said...
jere.Is it hard for you to believe its true?Isn't fraud the operative word here, or is all about Kurt?Paper of all kind is transacted millions of times a day. The market is like giant casino, anything and everything is traded under very little scrutiny. We just assume its true because it's red,white and blue.Paper doesnt neccessarily need to be cashed. It can be "bet" on or "hedged" at a future date for a hoped for outcome.You will know the truth some time in the near future wether in trial or settlement.

Nice curve ball, yetter. But to quote Bob Ueker when he was smashed in the movie "Major League", "just a bit outside...."

Yetter said...

selective justice..quoting the lenders?

whataboutjere said...

Yetter, you said, If the banks didn't accept the Dorean bond as payment, why are endorsed copys showing up in banks in Europe?

All I asked for was proof. I didn't question whether or not the banks could do this or not, I'm sure they did and I'd like proof to be able to nail my bank to the phucken wall being that we havn't gotten said promised remedy. So, if you've got proof then prove your claim. Real easy, no arguing, no fussing, no unsubstantiated claims, NO B.S.

whataboutjere said...

SOP Said... eggs and spam.

Another Sopidity?

justice77777777 said...

All I asked for was proof. I didn't question whether or not the banks could do this or not, I'm sure they did and I'd like proof to be able to nail my bank to the phucken wall being that we havn't gotten said promised remedy. So, if you've got proof then prove your claim. Real easy, no arguing, no fussing, no unsubstantiated claims, NO B.S.

When was substantiated proof given at anytime in the dg process?

But, I will hand it to you, yetter. You surely did get Mogel and Papa don't preaches panties in an up roar......

Tony Tuba said...

yetter has nothing. scroll past.

Yetter said...

Your right. This is second hand information and is completly unreliable.

Stillwaiting said...

Kurt wrote....
Many have suffered for Christ in this thing called Dorean but take comfort in having a savior who knows suffering in greater measure and therefore can be full of compassion. After all this by His resurrection power He conquered, overcame, the tortures and their results so He could offer you a share in His victory. Enjoy the victory and know that the world not seeing it is evidence of its existence.

Kurt, please don't try to draw a parallel between Christ's suffering and yours. there is no comparison.

On another note....
Our paper is being sold in Europe and other countries. I know this because I know someone who is doing this with our mortgage documents and is attempting to bundle a huge sum of money on the first go around. I believe we are to know something in the next several months. Time will tell and like the rest of you I am SW3.

son of a prophet said...

"Kurt, please don't try to draw a parallel between Christ's suffering and yours. there is no comparison."



one cannot compare the suffering that yeshua went thrugh, becasue we are not gods and simply cannot withstand the punishment of someone with supernatural power.

however, for the strenght that we are given, we suffer to the maximum extent possible in order to understand the suffering that christ went through. we will be taken "right to the brink" of insanity in order to understand His type of suffering.

our suffering will all come in different ways for each of us and in different amounts as we are able to bear. some can bear more. and some can bear less, but it will be 100% for each of us, if we are christian.

k's suffering may be different than yours or mine, but neverhteless, it is still suffering. you cannot diminish that, and it may not be like you are suffering, but it is still suffering just the same.

and i dont believe thats it for the money either,as when he has completed this effort, money will not mean much to him either.

he will have more than enuf, but it wont mean anything; the reward he will get will pale the money tht he may recieve and will be priceless in terms of wisdom rec'd.

Stillwaiting said...

Ah...for once SOP I agree with you. I am not sure we can understand the suffering that Christ went through but I do know we are the benefactors of his suffering and commitment to us. However, when I am suffering and think that my world is coming down around me (and it is) I think about what Christ went through and I know I am not suffering or sacrificing nearly as much as he did for us. Like you, I think, and others on the blog I had put my trust in the people that brought Kurt's idea to me. I don't really blame Kurt. I don't really blame the people that told me about him. It was in the final moment my decision. I asked the questions and got the answers. It was just that the answers weren't true. So today I suffer. I believe that the system is broken based on what I have researched over the last 5 to 7 years. I am just not sure we can beat them. My hope is that I am wrong.
There is an interesting article in Forbes magazine dated November 13, 2006 about title companies. All should find it and read it.
It is sad that we need money to carve out a living in this life. But the bible says something about not being a slave to money. I don't know....SW#

son of a prophet said...

“Like you, I think, and others on the blog I had put my trust in the people that brought Kurt's idea to me. I don't really blame Kurt. I don't really blame the people that told me about him. It was in the final moment my decision.’
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I think that you will eventually be rewarded, even if not in the manner or time that you think you will. But, you will have to wait, I believe. Somehow I just have a feeling that what they are trying to do is already accomplished, just waiting for the right opportunity to present it.

Just like when the govt announces that they will do something that they know most people will find objectionable; well, by the time they announce it, you can bet you mortgage that they have already been doing it for a while.

Take the Iran situation, and all that they are saying about it. You know that war is coming, and I will bet my last dollar that the govt. already has SOF forces inside the country and doing operations. By the time they announce the war, you already know that it has been going on for a while.



“It was just that the answers weren't true”

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All I can say, is that they probably felt that they had to protect security against those who would try to stop it form proceeding. Sort of using the same tactics that the govt. uses against the people.







“I am just not sure we can beat them. My hope is that I am wrong.”
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YOU are not wrong, but its tricky for most to understand. When you think that you have beaten them, you have not, you have just joined them. That is, when you think that you have accomplished your goal against them, they have let you win as you now have a cause to fight for which you truly believe in, but they have found a way to manipulate it for their own purposes. This is (will be) the hardest concept of all to understand, and can fool all of us at a given point, (me included) because it will require constant vigilance and as humans, we grow weary to continue to fight. You cannot fight and/or maintain vigilance indefinitely against the enemy. What you have to pray for, is at that point, if you’ve done you homework, you can put on cruise control and let the HS take over. You will no longer need to worry about being vigilant. You have paid you dues, and Yeshua knows it. You can see it coming. Each apostle knew when the time was coming to “put off my tent.” “To live is Christ; to die is gain.”

A good example of this is in the bible, when yeshua is praying in the garden at Gethsemane and found His apostles asleep. What did He say to them? It is the hour, cannot you stay awake just one hour and pray with Me? Yeshua already knew the answer. That they could not. Why? Because the apostles were very weary and tired. Not because they didn’t love Him. Yeshua knew that they did. But the bible makes it seem otherwise; that in His hour of need, they deserted Him.

So, how do I know this? The bible doesn’t say it, but this is what I mean when I say that Holy Spirit wisdom trumps the written word; you must feel it from the HS to know this is true, otherwise, it seems like “see, even the apostles couldn’t pray at times with Him.”

The reason was that they were weary. The bible doesn’t tell you this though, that’s why its important to cultivate the HS to the maximum extent possible and you will be given wisdom to understand things which others w/o HS wisdom cannot.

Also remebmr, that if they could be beaten, then this means that the Millenial Kingdom could be brought in, but the bible says that this is impossible w/o Yehsua physically comong to earth. And Yehsua is not coming when thinkgs are going well, he will be coming when all hell has broken loose. He will be coming to save the 1440,000 spiritually undefiled Jews in Israel; 12000 from each tribe.

son of a prophet said...

"He will be coming to save the 1440,000 spiritually undefiled Jews in Israel; 12000 from each tribe.

of course, christians neednt worry, as they will not be here for those who beleive in the rapture or whatever word you like to call it; transfigured.

becasue god said...

"i have not appointed you to wrath, but to salvation....'

and make no mistake about it, the tribulation is defintily gods wrath against this evil planet.

mogel said...

"It IS THE HOUR, cannot you stay awake just one hour and pray with Me?"
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It "is the hour" is the clue. Even Jesus knew the exact time where he had to perform & stay strong & endure his greatest trial. He had prepared his entire life for this HOUR. All mankinds fate depended on this small amount of time that goes unnoticed by the rest of the world, even his 12 apostles were unaware of what was going on.

Anyone would be angry when left alone at a time when moral support surely would be welcomed.

oksurewhynot said...

Did anyone read the post itself? The guy doesn't fit in. He went from Camp Bay Boy to Camp Bottom Feeder. His dad Fred needs to talk some sense into him before he gets beat up over a pack of gum.
It's unbelievable that a father can watch this happening. This is total denial.
Better start planning an exit strategy father and son.