Thursday, February 15, 2007

The Achilles Tendon (01-11-07)

Everyone knows you can bring down the strongest man with a strike to this tendon. It was the fact of the hero himself. I believe I have discovered the Achilles tendon in this commercial credit system. Nowhere and no one will come forward to validate their claims. I’m not talking about a dispute among neighbors but a bank or government entity will not verify any of their claims under oath. They take fake oaths for fake offices but this is not the same thing. If we as people begin to hold these frauds accountable they are powerless except as crooks. Fortunately these crooks do not prefer the honor of crooks but enjoy their stealth of a shinning exterior. I truly think this is what has them so spooked about Dorean. We in our honest understanding of the UCC may have unintentionally found the remedy to this unopposable Giant. They can’t be honest. If we demand it and prosecute it they will always crumble. This is the essence of what Dorean did. We demanded honesty and then took punitive action for dishonesty. I don’t think anyone to date had the balls to attempt this. Christ giving us courage is the only one who could breed fools eager to break this ground. If we succeed you really will have a model weapon to obtain victory. Think of piercing the delusion of these freaks that government will protect them from all liability. Imagine how the rats will leave the ship when their immunity proves false. Taking is what will halt the growth of this beast. You must identify your damage, contract for remedy or recovery, bond your actions, and take if they persist in evil. I recently got served a lawsuit over Dorean and I chose to use it as a model. I will publish my contract as a blog and you should study it in conjunction with the DVD or UCC. I was very careful to cover all bases to make it a good source. No judge, lawyer, clerk, officer, or official is immune. Sure the detractors will cower as sheepel but you must do the study and see if you see what I see. In its best form use a notary because they are a bonded witness. This gives you proof of claim (verification), which they won’t do. Make your claims true, your contact honest in fact and fair in dealing and let them do the rest. They can’t help being themselves. Finish the protest, convert into commercial paper, sell or lien-attach-take property. They can’t stop you because the money system can’t be tampered with by a sole Napoleon.

39 comments:

dgwondering said...

Sure, Kurt. Don't let reality tamper with your goofy legal BS that has never worked anywhere.

tcob247 said...

ured13 said...
Mogel... while I understand that the principles suffer just a bit in jail, I also understand that they are being housed and fed on a regular basis. Are you? I am sure you are! However, not all of the participants in this quest are. Just ask how many are losing their lives to this and are still hoping and praying that something happens. You say we receive information when the defendants post on this blog. Tell me what information was posted on this current post. I sure don't see it. Enjoy your bagel!!!

Ured13
The difference is that they are suffering for God
They dont give a rats ass that you are losing your house and family because of their lies.
They have their followers/koolaide drinkers who believe every word out of their mouths because they have heard the word direct from God and are suffering for his just cause.
You.............they could care less about
Plain and simple

tcob247 said...

Kurt said.....

"If we as people begin to hold these frauds accountable they are powerless except as crooks."

Guess what...........thats exactly what happened to you....you are a fraud and you are in jail and will be for a long time

"This is the essence of what Dorean did. We demanded honesty"

Oh yes....you were TOTALLY honest to your customers with your sales pitch. ie: thousands of successful mortgage eliminations and a customer service that really cares and will help with your every request

"I will publish my contract as a blog and you should study it in conjunction with the DVD"

Great another blog that Mogel and SOP can argue about religion and conspiracy theories.
How much was that DVD again?

My my....march is just around the corner.
WHere is that damn grill?
Git r fired up!!!!!!!!!

wantobefree said...

ured13-That question has been asked many many times,Mogel will turn it all around and make it out to be your fault.Eventully then youll be made out to be a cry baby, when your just like a bunch of us comeing to this blog wanting closure on this scam.It is what it is a SCAM.That money has gone to deep pockets and attourneys.Hey Mogel I noticed 1 of your post your tryin to get people to invest $2500 and you could get a return of 10% Dam hurry up sign me up I suppose i make money order out to Byron Gashler oooh by the way them other investments you got people into hows them going like Daily 12 every body invested then paypal shuts it down last i heard they were tryin to get everybodys money back to them.I was smart on that one.I cant believe your still tryin to get bye with your scams.TOTALLY AMAZING

ured13 said...

Okay, I read today's latest.... It's like talking to a doctor about a delicate procedure! Put it in laymens terms and I will only have to read half as much.

Also, are we on to another lawsuit to learn by? I have learned enough!

BTW, it looks like SOAP may have gone to Chucky Cheeze or another blog.... I hope!

mogel said...

Tcob said: "I also understand that they are being housed and fed on a regular basis. Are you? I am sure you are! However, not all of the participants in this quest are."
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Let's look at what you said. If someone loses a house, they also lose a debt they need to pay on. Wouldn't that give them more money for food from their discretionary income? If they are poor enough, they can get government aid, can they not? Or they can get Section 8 housing that pays 80% of their rent payment. Can you rent a home generally at a lower payment that buying? Can you purchase a home with little or no down payment in this market right now & find seller financing? So I fail to see how the process made people go from homeless to starving. Necessity is the mother of invention is it not? Don't you think people have alternatives? Or do you see starving as the only alternative & end result?

So you think K&S are suffering "just A BIT " huh? How would you know? Maybe people that have lost their homes are only suffering "just a bit too".

Who do you know that is personally starving? You must know that since you know I eat well. I eat bagels & hence I eat well? I think if I eat well, I can do a BIT BETTER than that, don't you think?

Besides when all things are said & done, any suffering will more than be made up for anyone's temporary status, whatever it is.

mogel said...

Tcob said: "Just ask how many are losing their lives to this and are still hoping and praying that something happens."
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Course that EXCLUDES YOU, RIGHT? Am I just a BIT correct on that?

mogel said...

Tcob said: "Great another blog that Mogel and SOP can argue about religion and conspiracy theories.
How much was that DVD again?"
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No, it would be more like a blog where you can complain with every post, and whine and cry that your Utopian existance hasn't been achieved yet.

mogel said...

Want to Be Enslaved said: "1 of your post your tryin to get people to invest $2500 and you could get a return of 10% Dam hurry up sign me up I suppose i make money order out to Byron Gashler"
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Want to Be Free: Stop being an idiot and perverting the truth AS USUAL. The $2500 money is money put in a Currency trading account where the client has sole control over these funds to withdraw or deposit monies. The funds AREN'T made out to another person like myself. The company has an impressive historical track record. Besides, you weren't PERSONALLY invited into it, were you?

ured13 said...

Gracious Mogel... It appears we have hit a nerve.

No more semi-intelligent disortations as to the rhetoric at hand. Your labor of love, K&S, sold a bill of goods of which they have not been able to deliver. I just want to know if it is ever going to be delivered this lifetime. My after-life is none of you or SOAP's business.

Faith in Christ and his power is one thing. Faith in the pursuit of this solution is another.

If you can answer with facts then answer.... If not let K&S answer preferably in layman's terms.

Is this all going to come to a head in the near future?

Simple question..... Should be a simple answer!!!

mogel said...

Want to Be Free said: "you got people into hows them going like Daily 12 every body invested then paypal shuts it down last i heard they were tryin to get everybodys money back to them."
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Yea, PAYPAL, SHUT THEM DOWN. LOL
What a coconut maroon. "Daily 12"? Never heard of a business enterprise with that name. Get your facts straight & then will talk again later, OK? Or better, shut up, so you don't embarass yourself further.

Or maybe you would like to talk about how Paypal shut this non-existant company down? Are you sure it was Paypal? So Paypal took the money, just to give it back, huh? Would you bet your abillity to get facts straight that you are exactly correct? Would you stop lying if it can be shown you are wrong on this material presumed fact? A simple yes or no, would do. I'll await for your response.

near the end said...

Do you guys do anything but piss and moan about this. It's not over yet.

Let it play out dumbasses.

It's not over yet it is not over yet. Let it play out.

The court date is set for the end of March.

Certainly the Gov. won't pospone it; of course unless they don't really have a case now. Am I right or am I wrong comeon now think.

god said...

ured13 said...
Mogel... while I understand that the principles suffer just a bit in jail, I also understand that they are being housed and fed on a regular basis. Are you? I am sure you are! However, not all of the participants in this quest are. Just ask how many are losing their lives to this and are still hoping and praying that something happens. You say we receive information when the defendants post on this blog. Tell me what information was posted on this current post. I sure don't see it. Enjoy your bagel!!!

OH GIVE ME A FRICKEN BREAK......HOMELSS AND NOW STARVING? WHY DONT WE PITCH IN AND SEND YOU TO THE SUDAN FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND LET YOU SEE REAL STARVATION.

I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU AND I'M god

ured13 said...

OMG, some information!

"The court date is set for the end of March."

Thank you, it is nice to see the info. flowing in already!

The huddled masses thank you too!

justice77777777 said...

Pre-trial is set for March 23 and trial starts the following week.

tcob247 said...

mogel said...
Tcob said: "Just ask how many are losing their lives to this and are still hoping and praying that something happens."

mogel said...

Tcob said: "I also understand that they are being housed and fed on a regular basis. Are you? I am sure you are! However, not all of the participants in this quest are."


Hey dickhead
I never said those things
Get it right

mogel said...

Ured 13 said: "Gracious Mogel... It appears we have hit a nerve."

Actually not! I often end posts with a "LOL" to help people understand that no nerve was hit, and that I'm still in control of my emotions & really not as offended as you might think.
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No more semi-intelligent disortations as to the rhetoric at hand. Your labor of love, K&S, sold a bill of goods of which they have not been able to deliver.

ACTUALLY WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED CAN BE DEBATED TOO. DOREAN DELIVERED A DISCHARGE OF MORTGAGE FOR CLIENTS. THAT WAS THE PROOF THAT AGENTS ADVERTISED OVER THE INTERNET ANYWAY AS THE PROOF THAT WAS RELIED UPON. ONLY THE COURT IS THE LAST ENTITY STOPPING THE AFFIRMATION OF THE FACT THAT THE DISCHARGE WAS DONE PROPERLY AND LEGALLY.

KURT & SCOTT DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE COURT'S GAMES AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SO I FAIL TO SEE HOW YOU CONCLUDE THAT THIS IS THEIR FAULT, OR THAT LACK OF GOOD FAITH HASN'T BEEN EXHIBITED BY THE DOREAN GROUP SINCE THE BEGINNING.


I just want to know if it is ever going to be delivered this lifetime.

WELL IF YOU READ & UNDRSTOOD THE SCRIPTURES AND BELIEVED THEM & HAD THE FAITH & POWER IN CHRIST YOU SAY YOU DO, "WHICH IS ONE THING" THEN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS, BECAUSE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU & IS SIMPLE. THE ANSWER IS AN UNEQUIVOCABLE YES, BUT WHEN SCRIPTURES ARE QUOTED TO AFFIRM THIS, PEOPLE LIKE YOU GET OFFENDED BECAUSE A NERVE WAS HIT & YOU SAY START ANOTHER BLOG SOMEWHERE ELSE.

My after-life is none of you or SOAP's business.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS, NOR DID HE. NOW WHO SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A NERVE HIT?

Faith in Christ and his power is one thing. Faith in the pursuit of this solution is another.

ACTUALLY THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME, BUT YOU DON'T SEE IT WITH YOUR EYES.

If you can answer with facts then answer.... If not let K&S answer preferably in layman's terms.


HOW CONVENIENT THAT YOU DEMAND FACTS, BUT PROVIDE NO FACTS OTHERWISE. SOUNDS LIKE A DOUBLE STANDARD TO ME.

Is this all going to come to a head in the near future?

EXCELLENT QUESTION. DR. FRED IS A PHONE CALL AWAY. A BETTER QUESTION, MIGHT BE, WHY DON'T YOU BOTHER TO CALL HIM & PERSONALLY ASK HIM HIS THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT & SEE IF HE HAS A SIMPLE ANSWER FOR YOU?
COURSE THE ANSWER PRESUPPOSES THAT YOUR QUESTION REALLY IS SIMPLE AS YOU SAY.

Simple question..... Should be a simple answer!!!

10:56 AM

mogel said...

Ured13: The court date toward the end of March is old news.

mogel said...

Tycob said: "I never said those things Get it right"
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thanks for the correction.

near the end said...

Where did the Gutless and mindless trolls; Neo and Judge Roy go?

Oh there checking this blog every 30 min. believe me they are.

Ured13 said...

Mogel... I have to admit.... I am speechless... How can you say so much and say so little? My hat is off to you and I will try and spend the next 3 hours of my day trying to figure out what you said.

In the end, people just want to know what's going on... If you can't provide information then don't respond... If you can then do so...

wantobefree said...

Mogel-You cocksucker you know what im talking about dont play fucking stupid with me I might not have the name correct and i cant find it cause i deleted it over a year ago,cause i figured it was a scam.Im really hurt byron that I wasnt personally invited to whatever scamm you have going now.I dont care how stupid you make people feel smart guy Im making a personal vendeta to try to make your life a fucking hell on this blog lets put it this way im getting my money back I wish you lived down the road it would be easier.

god said...

Mogel-You cocksucker you know what im talking about dont play fucking stupid with me I might not have the name correct and i cant find it cause i deleted it over a year ago,cause i figured it was a scam.Im really hurt byron that I wasnt personally invited to whatever scamm you have going now.I dont care how stupid you make people feel smart guy Im making a personal vendeta to try to make your life a fucking hell on this blog lets put it this way im getting my money back I wish you lived down the road it would be easier.

WOW!! YOUR ONE WICKED SOB AREN'T YOU
WANNABE??

justice77777777 said...

god said...
WOW!! YOUR ONE WICKED SOB AREN'T YOU
WANNABE??

You didn't know this? You created him dick-god, I mean wad.

getmeoffthisride said...

I'm studying loan origination right now and what Kurt is saying about those notes being turned into money is all true. Our mortgage papers are being turned into cash.

getmeoffthisride said...

Oops, according to SOP, I'm not supposed to say anything....

wantobefree said...

I can be when people owe me,so far my record of collecting has been %100 im getting closer.

mogel said...

Ured13 said: Mogel... I have to admit.... I am speechless... How can you say so much and say so little? My hat is off to you and I will try and spend the next 3 hours of my day trying to figure out what you said.
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No, I am the one dumbfounded to think that you would actually spend 3 hours of your day trying to figure out one post of mine. I don't think anyone has given me that much time ever. Thank-you.

mogel said...

Want to Be Free: Believe it or not, I want the best for you. In a strange way, you still deserve it.

wantobefree said...

All i deserve is my money back i could give a rats ass about the other shit you stirred up.You must of had a real good time.Be honest to me how long did my money last did you invest it give it to a sick person or did you indulge your self into a buying spree,put it to an end brother and release yourself,I might just give ya break to see you be honest....nah

Stillwaiting said...

To All......I said this a year or so ago, can't remember time has passed on this topic for so long. I recant what I said before. Had I been told in the very beginning that the notes on our properties could be sold but they (K&S) weren't sure if they could pull it off - I would have been okay with knowing that info.
However, I was told by the idiots in my area that we had to get our money in before the end of the month (july)and that they could do it and it would only take a few months. I believed them, didn't know K&S, however the one guy in our group did, but it was our guy that we knew that didn't tell us the whole story.
As for the notes, we have someone who is selling the notes and we are supposed to have the answer very soon, March or April.
I have a friend who is also doing the mortgage cancellation through another program. His loan should be canceled in the next few months. I am confident from what I know that it will be for his is not the first to be canceled in that group.
Over the last 6 years or so I have studied everything I can on the banking industry, IRS and the Constitution. No, I am not an authority but I am not blind to what I know, have seen and heard.
Don't be surprised if the court date is delayed and if it is....I am stillwaiting3..........

mogel said...

Want to Be Free: If you must know, I directly sent your money to my own mortgage holder, of course. Unlike you, I have continued to make my payments. Thanks to you, they were brought current within minutes. So the big bad banksters have your money.

oksurewhynot said...

The deeper the rhetoric, likely, the more the heat.

mogel said...

ured13 said: "Also, are we on to another lawsuit to learn by? I have learned ENOUGH!"

Ured 13 also asked: "Tell me what information was posted on this current post."
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Conflicted personality syndrome at it's best. Sybil has nothing on you. To learn or not to learn. That is the question.

mogel said...

Want to be Free said: "I can be when people owe me,so far my record of collecting has been %100 im getting closer."
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You're the solution to the banks biggest problem; collecting on bad accounts. Maybe you should have a change of careers & get into the collection agency business? With a resume like that, who wouldn't hire you? It must be, "I have a size 14 shoe size approach, that is so effective for you." Or maybe it's just your charizma. It's really hard to say, but one can't argue statistics.

wantobefree said...

Mogel-So the truth comes out you used my money to pay your mortgage at least thats the way i take it.Im the 4 generation of collecting money,when people owe my family money we collect no matter what.Your a special situation Im taken my time with you.And my shoe size is very very affective,hope this gets settled soon cause you dont want to see my shoe size in person.Lets hope for the best.

Ured13 said...

Goodness Mogel, you sound like someone higher up the chain trying to save his butt. Let it go, I am just looking for answers!

WillToContTheFight said...

Where did this URed13 person come from....Has it taken over for the others that would attempt to keep everyone in darkness?

Haven't been here in a while but have not given up... WillToFight!

I'm seeing things in my case...If we only had good attorneys, this would be easy, the "so-called" lenders have no standing!

Just like Kurt is saying here right now, they will not make any claims under oath. They only try and intemidate you into falling for the OKYDOKE, contract!

I will not explain myself to tcoasswipe or StickyDogWonderingindarkness or NeoInfiltrate.

Ured13 said...

Darkness? I am a person, who know other people, who know other people who are simply looking for answers. Straight ones. That's all!