Friday, February 23, 2007

The Tent of Dwelling (01-23-07)

I just finished reading on the tabernacle in Exodus. For most this is a boring section of meaningless statistics and measurements. For me a couple of things stood out. First was the contrast of God’s nature to ours built into the design. We think God wants us to present ourselves clean which is portrayed on this blog by all the self-righteous fruit inspectors who judge freely. That was not the case in God’s model. I say model because it is a copy of God’s meeting courts in heaven. The first thing to confront you upon entrance is not the washing basin or laver but the burnt offering. This is where everything is consumed for God’s benefit. To us it appears a waste. We are not yet clean or righteous only responding to our draw into God with honor. From there God takes us to the laver, which is the cleansing blood of Christ. Next Moses (chpt. 39) saw that they had built it according to all God commanded and he blessed them. God gives us commands that are for His plans we don’t have a say in it. There was no right to say put the laver first. What was clear is that obedience leads to blessing. One could teach a thousand lessons on all the symbolism of Christ in the tabernacle design so obedience was essential for our benefit and led to our blessing. God’s pattern of building has not changed and we should trust His purpose. Another thing 28:3 is that God endows with the skill and power so we can obey. We are without excuse. He makes the demand and supplies the way and in all things Christ is the focus. Though my walk may appear strange obedience has its just reward. My life, ambition, hopes, reputation, loves are all burnt up to the Lord’s enjoyment. That is first my cleansing and vindication will come later.

81 comments:

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drhfred said...

These are Kurt and Scott's correct addesses:

Kurt Johnson ULF796
Santa Rita Jail
5325 Broder Blvd.
Dublin, CA 94568

Dale Scott Heineman
12152-081
Dublin FDC
5675 8th St. Camp Parks
Dublin, CA 94568
As of Feb.23, 2007

mogel said...

Video showing a huge Concentration camp in Indiana, built in America
for dissenting Citizens against the New World Order which is coming, all funded by government money:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y&mode=related&search=

wantobefree said...

Near the end-Hmmm lets see here,we called the mall first and guess what no zales explain that one first you cocksucker,and i bet if i checked even harder theres no fishing tourney either,and do you think id give a real room #.1;00 at zales thats where were going to be,wait a min no such place hey everybody call them and see,nobody gives a fuck about what were talking about dum motherfucker see you at 1:00 he he he heha ha ha ha your so fucking dum, were going skiing later sissy girlie.

wantobefree said...

Now back to why I come to this stupid ass blog,wheres my fucking money at Mogel,did you think I was going to forget about it.As a matter of fact Im starting to wonder if Near the End really isnt Mogel POSTING AS A DIFFER NAME,Hmm kinda makes you wonder,god forbid your followers find out thats you,that would be hilarious.

near the end said...

wantobefree, You have no creditablity LIAR LIAR.

near the end said...

wantobefree, Your bitching is getting old.

If 3 or 4 thousand dollars is hurting you financially then you are one BROKE little girl.

Hell; I lose more than that at the Dog races in a weekend; Move on LIAR BOY!!!!!

Quite hideing behind your computer and post your cell phone # if you have any balls and I promise I'll call;

unlike you who lies about his rm. # and "ADMITS" it.

Your BUSTED caught in a lie. LIAR BOY!!!!

KYHOOYA said...

mogel said...
There's only 1 court record on a Richard Jones in Springfield, Illinois that I could find according to the website:

www.courtrecords.org

Course one has to pay for this information.

8:46 PM


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Pauligirl Justice7777777

So how about it I know that I have read here at least once that pauligirl has access to these record.
So why don't you post the case above for all to see?




Justice77777
someone would have to think after all of your 'fact of the matter' posting around here and your blog name you could produce the records on this case for all to have a look without haveing to pay.

If these records were made to be so hard to get at it is goes to without saying that the system is hiding something about it or they would be easy to see.

Funny how only the things that make the Gov't look bad at the time they are going on and the people can say and do something about it or the one 's responcable for it, all end up being sealed for national security or something along that line .
Whatever it is that is used to keep the truth from coming out in till enough time has past and there 'Act' is no longer in te public eye there fore leading if any explaining to do or price to pay for their actions.

If I remenmber right the case that was being thrown around here a few post back i regard to 'Case law' and the bank's being shown for the record that they were cheat's and theifs to the people & use tyhe Gov't to back them up.

KYHOOYA said...

If I were to go back and dig out all of the neysayers post where they have said things like:

'They know the system is doing wrong But!'
or
'How even though the banks are cheating us and the facts are coming out you'll never stop them'

Even to go as far as to agree the fact's that suround the Dorean processs in it's coreshowing the banks for there lies's but in the same breath they add that there is know way that the Gov't is going to let anything take down the bank and there by causing the folding of the U.S. Ecom. system.

It is cases that are shown above that are made to be more than easy to get to see than the other that are more in the favor of the bank's that along with all the other things that show them for their wrong doings and having the Gov't help them to hide this or by to let this continued without following the same rule and laws that everyone eles follow is what is killing this country.

If you set it up and make the rule by witch the game is to be plaied out, then in the middle when it's found that someone or many have found a way to play by the rulee and still win your game . You don't get to change those to suit your liking and bring you back into the winning side .

To do so is only to show you have set up a game wiitch is not worth the time it took to it set up to play why would anyone want to play a game on witch they all know that even if they find a way to win By the Rules that they will never win because the other side will just change it all around without care of showing it so they win.

That would be like putting all of you money for a horse to win after the race is over and he just lost or worst being tricked into doing just that without much recourse to stop because the system has gotten to much power and the people don't matter to them any more they do what they want with out check's and balances to keep from Screwing Us. U.S. ...


You know back 20 years or so whan we all would say joking that if thigs keep go the way they are we will have to pay $5.00 for a pack of Cig's. and a gal. of Gas. or how much was that loaf of bread going to cost us again?


It's here !!!

So how did that joke end anyway ?



I don't recall how it ended but I bet it was'nt a laughing matter how and when it does.


I would'nt worry about the bread so much not if you gert a planting that garden now you should have plenty to eat from it ... and what you'll need to make that bread will be there to.

But wait is that garden going to grown on that land your bank ownd house will be taken if so maybe not a good place to grow that garden after all.


You know I remember my grandma always had a garden and worked in it up in tilll she was inher 90's she lived from 1900 to 2000 what a life of seeingt this country through the feast and the fam.
the one thing her kid's could al way count on was that there would be food on the table know matter how little money ther was , it might be bread and squash all week but at least you you eat, witch at that time early 1900's you were licky if you did.

WE might want to get ready for that again why do you think the Gov't is getting those camp and all together for the training of the local cop' on how to handle civil unrest ? You don't think that much happen's tha the PTB Gov't don't know is going to long before it takes place do you?

How could you think the country and it's leaders would not plan for events that were fore seen and were not stopable.

You know something once put into motion can not be stopped they are like a juggernot and all in there path will be crush with little or no effect to slow or divert it from its path .

I was helping my father in law one day to clean out the house of his aunt who had past away who in her lifetime had lived throught the depression also. As I when through the house I had to wonder to my self what it must have been like and how much it would take to bring someone who had more money now than she new how to deal with as in (Checksthat came in every month from husbans investment before he died and were stuffed everywhere in books and such) totaling in the hundereds of thousands of dollars when they were are found, if they were all foundwho know's but the thing that I was wondering about was how bad it must have been for her backwhen she long before to bring her to the point with that much money to still be savint the lid's off of Spam can's or the many other item's that the was no throwing out by her cut in half egg cartons that had little item of no use really saved in them a house full of items that were out dated and in need of repair some of them were.

and yet she had all that money but just could'nt bring herself to spend it for fear that one day it would all be back to the same day's when there was nothing you had nothing you would be staring at times willing to work for any amount just to eat or pay for a roof out of the rain and cold . to hover around a steel drum with a fire going waiting watching for maybe even hoping that some ne might get hut or fall out of favor on a job site so that you would get their spot and what little money they were piad to do it.

You remember the thing that are so much the story telling to day like the Hover dam or the Golden Gate Bridge and so on were all made under cost and on time with the work from the people at a time there was nothing and peole were dying for lack of the basice we take for the normal rights today.

We are not going in a good direction know matter how you look at it. The people like that mentioed earlier in the post how the Gate, Chases , and money powers of the country are betting on the dollar falling well I would take a go look folk these peole don't do thing lik ethat without some fore thought and beleieve me they will be standing for the most part when it falls because like the Feds they win if it's up or down the still get paid.

times are a changing know doubt about that so what ch-you gona do when it doses or are you just hoping for the best and that's it?>


I would'nt do that if I were you cuzzz kno0w one willl give a shit about you if you don't have anything when it get .bad

L8r


Oh and one more thing

Have A Nice Day! :)

justice77777777 said...

Ibelieveinhope said...
Mogel and Yetter:

Thanks for the addresses. You efforts are appreciated.

Especially, moogies efforts. I could care less about those two knit-wits, I knew that johnson was no longer housed at Dublin, but yet "moogie" the idiot didn't know this!

I guess you haven't written at least johnson in the last two months huh "moogie".

"if I only had a brain"

wantobefree said...

Near the end-post your cell I promise Ill call, what an idiot.Instead of meeting at your made up zales.We will hang out at Kays Jewerly at 1:00 for about 15min than were off to enjoy beautiful NC Ill prove to you who the liar is,look for orange jacket with wolf on the back,You will already have an advantage,i can give an idiot that.Dont swallow to much cum I dont want that hittin in the face when i hit you in that fat ass gut of yours,let me guess you spend what i make in a year on male prostitution rich bitch.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

wantobefree said...
Near the end-post your cell I promise Ill call, what an idiot.Instead of meeting at your made up zales.We will hang out at Kays Jewerly at 1:00 for about 15min than were off to enjoy beautiful NC Ill prove to you who the liar is,look for orange jacket with wolf on the back,You will already have an advantage,i can give an idiot that.Dont swallow to much cum I dont want that hittin in the face when i hit you in that fat ass gut of yours,let me guess you spend what i make in a year on male prostitution rich bitch.




You two should get a room together. I haven't seen this much hate since my ex wife and I.

near the end said...

Swami, Hey, Man no I don't hate the guy. It just started with me messing around and wantobefree took it. "Hook line an sinker".

It was just fun gettin his blood pressure up.

But dude wantobefree; take a pill I'm not meetin you and your not in NC.

Dude; you got more problems than me!!! to worry about.

I forgive you for your Filthy mouth. Want to be Friends?

mogel said...

Justice said: "I knew that johnson was no longer housed at Dublin, but yet "moogie" the idiot didn't know this!"
________________________________

I knew that too, because it was mentioned that he was moved, but I didn't have that address. Notice the date on Kurt's address IDIOT!!!

Again, you don't pay attention to details, hypocrite.

mogel said...

Justice: But as you remember, the person on the blog wanted Scott's address, not Kurt's.

It's just like you to bring up irrelevant information.

If you had Kurt's address, why didn't you do the courteous thing & post it immediately. Enough said.....

mogel said...

Kyooya, I sent an email to "Pauligirl" asking her if she could find this court case since she is admittedly good at this type of research, but to no avail.

My conclusion is that she is only interested in a one sided version like posting "vapor money case" losses, and not the truth. She is only interested in posting derogatory information & not both sides or knowing of any case that is pro Dorean.

son of a prophet said...

she works for the govt. LOLO!


got a feeling that a new world report will be coming out very late tonight, like after 12AM midnt.

son of a prophet said...

anyone here C2C last night and the honeybees story.

honeybees are dropping like flies, or honeybees. 50% of them are gone.

a true crisis. einstien said if there were no more honeybees, then we all daid in 4 years.

as hb's pollenate many plants, then the food chain is disrupted and then even livestock cant feed on grains, so they all daid too. eventuall no mo foo to eet fo noone.

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
My conclusion is that she is only interested in a one sided version like posting "vapor money case" losses, and not the truth. She is only interested in posting derogatory information & not both sides or knowing of any case that is pro Dorean.

...and your conclusions have came to such fruition in the past, huh moogie?

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
I knew that too, because it was mentioned that he was moved, but I didn't have that address. Notice the date on Kurt's address IDIOT!!!

...what relevance does this have to do with the fact that YOU posted an incorrect address, IDIOT?

You are such a fool and you know it. You call this an excuse for posting the incorrect address? You posted it, not me IDIOT.

near the end said...

justice77777777; Do you have a brain?

wantobefree said...

Near the End-yea I hear ya It was fun for awhile.You got to admit this blog slowed down for awhile,we had a little soap opera going,other than the smae ol boring shit.(Words of promise that isnt coming).Hey good luck at your tourney next weekend.Put the bullshit aside and let me know how you did.

near the end said...

Yeah will do, Don't worry we will get our settlement.

It's just takeing longer than they thought; Be patient!!!

justice77777777 said...

near the end said...
Yeah will do, Don't worry we will get our settlement.

It's just takeing longer than they thought; Be patient!!!

near the beginning,

You are a lying piece of crap, just like moogie. If I go back a few of johnson's posts, when you were on a tear of neo, you admitted that you were NOT a client and that you had a problem with neo.

Now you are saying you are a client, which makes sense with the foul language and below average intellect.

justice77777777 said...

hey dorean faithfuls,

why don't you ask h. fred who his son has asked to work on these "settlements" in europe that you all are expecting, and this person isn't touching these "judgments" or ANYTHING dorean related for that matter with a 10 foot pole?

I've already tried to tell you that you all are not getting told what's really going on, but instead of proceeding with caution, you all prefer to look like bigger fools in the eyes of us that know the whole story not just the introduction.

So, near the beginning, keep on slinging words of filth to the naysayers and encouragement to the non-naysayers, as your stupidity is quite transparent.

Moogie, for you the end is near at which time you will find another "product" to push, and this will be a glorious day for many, especially me. Hopefully, before the final chapter is written, your sorry hinny will be a defendant, and with the duo already convicted, there is no defense left for you.

near the end said...

justice7777777, Do you have a Brain?

I forgive you for your mouth and your lack of Faith and intelligence.

near the end said...

justice777777, Also you really need to stop acting like you no the whole story and outcome;

because you DONT. But I forgive you anyway.

near the end said...

justice777777, Can you explain why you or anyone else hear against this process won't explain about "Richard L. Jones".

What are you scared of my friend?

near the end said...

I have not used a foul mouth since I said I was sorry;

How come you did'nt mention that post justice777777.

How come How come comeon How come!!!!!

near the end said...

justice7777777; You got some explaining to do!!!!!

near the end said...

justice777777, No I'm not in this process but my brother is and I told him I would help him.

Dr. fred sent him a signed Doc. to deed his property back to him and he's going to hold off for now.

I don't no what the big deal is if you want out get out $3000 dollars is not very much money cut your losses and move on.

If $3000 dollars is alot of money to you then you need a new job.

son of a prophet said...

"WHEN YOU go forth to battle against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than your own, do not be afraid of them, for the Lord your God ... is with you." [Deuteronomy 20:1]

"Some trust in and boast of chariots and some of horses, but we will trust in and boast of the name of the Lord our God." [Psalm 20:7]

Tony Tuba said...

Justice77777777, just like in a club.........you keep asking until you get a yes. Someone will say yes to the offer..........it's a numbers game. Even Neo gets a yes every once in a while.

justice77777777 said...

near the end said...
justice7777777; You got some explaining to do!!!!!

I don't "got" anything to do. You all will believe whatever it is that keeps getting served via kool-aid and there's no "explaining" anyone can do about it. Hopefully, the kool-aid will run out in april for the people who have not had permanent brain damage.

near the end said...

justice77777,Why won't you explain about "Richard L. Jones" if you are so smart.

Hey Judge Roy or Neo what about this "Richard L. Jones" who won in a court of Law

"What are ya'll afraid of?"

near the end said...

Not trying to be a smarty but Kurt brought this "Richard L. Jones" up and this would be a great chance to show that Kurt is wrong about this guy.

I'll take that if ya'll don't post about this Mr. Jones then you are agreeing with Kurt on this one.

justice77777777 said...

near the end said...
Not trying to be a smarty but Kurt brought this "Richard L. Jones" up and this would be a great chance to show that Kurt is wrong about this guy.

I'll take that if ya'll don't post about this Mr. Jones then you are agreeing with Kurt on this one.

I'll take a shot in the dark that the case doesn't exist, just like the rest of the dorean arguments/evidence.

I have an idea, why don't you all get that retard lawyer from Lie-Bo, to look it up.

He's "friendly" to the dorean process. His name is Bob Lock.

near the end said...

justice, Kurt brought it up it's up to you now to prove it's wrong lazy boy.

Don't try and get me to do the work for you my friend.

It must be true or you would have already proved it to not be.

Your a Lazy Head!!! You lose on this one Big Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

near the end said...

Does anyone know what the Law is once you are arrested how many days can you be jailed without going to Trial?

mogel said...

Injustice said: why don't you ask h. fred who his son has asked to work on these "settlements" in europe that you all are expecting, and this person isn't touching these "judgments" or ANYTHING dorean related for that matter with a 10 foot pole?

SHOULDN'T YOU HAVE SAID, "WAS ASKED", INSTEAD OF "HAS ASKED". IF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU INTENDED TO SAY, THAN WHAT YOU REALLY SAID, IS THE SON ASKED TO DO SOMETHING & INTENDED TO DO NOTHING, SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF ASKING? IS THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG NOW TOO? OR MAYBE YOU THINK BECAUSE ONE PERSON CAN'T DO SOMETHING, OR IS AFRAID OF DOING SOMETHING, THEN WE'RE DOOMED-- WHICH IS JUST AS RIDICULOUS TO THINK.

I've already tried to tell you that you all are not getting told what's really going on, but instead of proceeding with caution, you all prefer to look like bigger fools in the eyes of us that know the whole story not just the introduction.

HOW CAN YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STORY WHEN THE WHOLE STORY HASN'T BEEN TOLD? OR MAYBE YOU JUST THINK YOU ARE NATURALLY SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. WASN'T IT YOU, THAT ALWAYS ACCUSED THE PRINCIPALS OF BEING 'NARCISSISTIC'. I WOULD SAY THEY DON'T HOLD A CANDLE TO YOU IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

So, near the beginning, keep on slinging words of filth to the naysayers and encouragement to the non-naysayers, as your stupidity is quite transparent.

I THINK YOU'RE HATE IS QUITE TRANSPARENT.

Moogie, for you the end is near at which time you will find another "product" to push, and this will be a glorious day for many, especially me. Hopefully, before the final chapter is written, your sorry hinny will be a defendant, and with the duo already convicted, there is no defense left for you.

YOU'RE ALSO A DEAFIST, AREN'T YOU, AMONG YOUR MANY OTHER TALENTS SUCH AS BEING VINDICTIVE AND SPITEFUL TOO. ALOT OF FINE QUALITIES TO BE PROUD OF. WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE THAT, I'M SURE YOU WILL WIN ALOT OF FRIENDS & INFLUENCE PEOPLE. MAYBE YOU COULD WORK IN PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT SOMEWHERE. YOU'RE SUCH A PROBLEM SOLVER, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT DOWN YOUR ALLEY. LOL

KYHOOYA said...

justice77777777 said...
near the end said...
Not trying to be a smarty but Kurt brought this "Richard L. Jones" up and this would be a great chance to show that Kurt is wrong about this guy.

I'll take that if ya'll don't post about this Mr. Jones then you are agreeing with Kurt on this one.

I'll take a shot in the dark that the case doesn't exist, just like the rest of the dorean arguments/evidence.

I have an idea, why don't you all get that retard lawyer from Lie-Bo, to look it up.

He's "friendly" to the dorean process. His name is Bob Lock.

10:44 AM


***********************************


I seee your mouth running but what'a comming out of it is nothing more that your same old B.S. why don't you find a new hobby at least that would might keep you from saying all these little butt kissing apple polishing same old worn out line you use.

How about you post all these insider facts you say you have? Mr speical.

You trully are Just -An _ASS 777777

You act like your some kinda expert when all you really are is some lying backstabbing could'nt make it in the real world of courtroom action so you crawled bellie up to the piece of shit Title job your doing now.

Nice when your job is to do nothing more than hit a couple of key stroke's for a titlke search and ythen charge someone $1000 + for it. and all the rest of the back rooom buddy bull shi=t thing's you and the brokers do well patting their customers on the back telling them how your on their side looking out for their best interest ,.

That has got to be the biggest lie ever toll and I don't know how the bank and brokers are lety to keep saying the things they do without some kinda fine .

Your great for saying over and over how that one thing about the proccess that made it wrong was how they promoteed it by lies and that one thing where it said there was proven already done processesed.
That 's one you and your freinds tell more lies than someone could count on their hands and feet when doing their day to day job (more loke robbing theifs) Oh you betcha that mortgage broker or now the new one mortgage banker is on the customers side oh sure they are! Not for a second all they and your self want in someone who has a bunch of EQ and bad credit that has know idea how it all word (buy that don't matter much either) so you will be all smiles just long enough to get all the fact;' about hat kinda state the gut is in and how bad off more likly and that tell's you how much to sqeeze him right?

what a job talk about lies why don't we talk about them and how you and your tell more than a whore on Valetines day saying "Your the only one baby!"

how you can come one here and call someone eles a lier is beyond me.
When the bank back up the lies the title back's up the lies the brokers lie the hole dam thing from the stsrt is a bunch of B.S. lies with only one thing on it TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN WITHOUT YOU FINDING OUT ABOUT or at least not in till the 3 day rec. is over then they could care less right

it's such a jike you have a bunch of brokers running around now getting set up as mortgage banker so they can keep the lie going and not have to disclose there fees ,Like the new laws that are going into place after the paid off lawmakers wait out soem extra time to give you all to get set up that is

if as a contractor i were to have my business run in that way frist the lic. board would be all over me for so many business code viol. then there would be that.

look at it this way how many times do you see a contractor that gets to write up a contract full of nothing as a est.
then when he's all done with the job get's to charge what ever and get paid by the bank with out you say in it and on top have the bank back up the lie 's and all that he is telling you. the fucking unreal way that the brokers and banks get to run their business is just un beleivable just right in your face robbery and the lawmakers act all supprised when there is a bunch that get so fuck by the B& B gruop that there is just no way for them to over look it so the jusmp around and act as if their doing something with a commi. special to gather facts about the industry and then they can make some chosses on what would be best to put uinto law.
all the time their pockets are getting more & more fill by the B & B lobbiest who have the money to throw around by the bucket.

Then when it comes time to put that law into place and maybe catyhch some of these SOB's with their pants down what do they do but put a up a delay for the inactment so that the brokers can come up with away to get around it still .. What A bunchh of shit this is wait well the broker all become M banker over night so tehy don't have to disclose any fee's .. That's right folk did you know that as a Mortgage Banker not Broker that they will and don't have to tell you jack about what they made off of you ass when doinbg a loan for you and where that money is coming from again your ass.

This is the group that you Justices77777 want to come on here and call someone eles a lier for say one thing like prover in add for get ting customers

when your whole industryis doing thing like this and YSP (back room payoffs from bank to brroker ) NOt what it was in teneted for

Signing over rthye apperasal to the broker insead of 6the final lender after you are sure that is who will be doing you loan Your side usees that fact of that to hold your customer froim shoping your asss Once I could'nt count how many time this prick of a broker was running my credit report to 1 see if I was getting another quote or just bluffing him to give me the loan that was promise and set up for but he thought he coulsd set it up better if he got me less money and just enough to get by so I would have to get a nopther loan in a year and he coul make more money 2 to run my score in to the ground so that if i was going to shop as i said in would be harder to get a Apple to Apple quote that way cuz my score would be worse off. for all the hit's by him.

You see thing like tha are why this whole bunch are nothingf more than snakes and if you ask me they should get fuck every once or twice for allthe fucking they diush out..

What ball s you have to sit there and call any one a lier or anything for that matter when your nothing more than a shady part of the whole process yourself

so if you want run your mouth so much why don't you get soem facts and real life how the hole law thing and how much of it right and wrong on bothsides when you do.


shit
I give an est. of work or proposal and my cutomer signs it a Ibetter do it for that price or there better be a writen cghhange order to show for any different money charge


Tell me why is'nt it that way in the lending buzzzz Pal! what nerve calling someone eles names and telling how they were wrong for not saying the whole truth the way you wan't hear it in comparing your day to day every day business I would say that one or twpo from other ois not bad not when you spit out.


so tellme ome fact buddy , mr. titkle lawyer i'm dying to hear them. alongh with any answer to why the things i have said here are let to go on day after day . right in front of everbody and with the help of all the lawmakers and bank and everyone to try and keep the customer in the dark aboyt what is reallt going on with their money.


I'll wait


l8r

mogel said...

Injustice said: "Not trying to be a smarty but Kurt brought this "Richard L. Jones" up and this would be a great chance to show that Kurt is wrong about this guy."

WHY DON'T YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND? IF YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END LIKE YOU SAY, AND THAT ALL DOREAN FAITHFULS ARE MISLED, THEN, YOU WOULD KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE RICHARD L. JONES CASE TOO SINCE ADMITTEDLY THIS IS KURT'S DEFENSE. HOW COULD YOU KNOW IF KURT WAS GOING TO LOSE IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIS DEFENSE? YOUR OWN WORDS BETRAY YOU.

mogel said...

Injustice: This is your best post to date REVEALING YOUR TRANSPARENCY:

"Hopefully, before the final chapter is written, your sorry hinny will be a defendant, and with the duo already convicted, there is no defense left for you."
___________________________________

Let's analyze this. You claim to know the process is a scam & that there will be MORE Defendants, but you use the word, "hopefully". LOL

Maybe you've been talking with the prosecution too!!! Apparently, all these insiders are all of your friends too that feed you with information. How else would you think that there will be more Defendants?

You also make a conclusion that isn't even factual, "the duo already convicted". Is that a "hopeful" part of your thinking too?

Your biggest problem is that you can't tell the difference between assumptions and facts, but in your SORRY mind, you think you know it all FROM INTRODUCTION TO THE END. I guess in your narcissitic mind you ALSO think you are a prophet & a VINDICTIVE prophet at that, if such an entity exists. LOL

mogel said...

Justice: I'm just taking a "shot in the dark" but I think you are full of ............

mogel said...

Injustice said: "I have an idea, why don't you all get that retard lawyer from Lie-Bo, to look it up."
_______________________________

Retard lawyer? You must have some animosity towards this person too obviously. Maybe you even have a history with this person.

near the end said...

justice7777777 A title Attorney should not even be considered an Attorney.

Why are you affraid to answer my question about Richard Jones?

Please even thou I scared Neo from posting please keep posting; your funny.

I think Bruce is just scared I'll catch him in another lie!!!!!!!!!

son of a prophet said...

Putin To Meet With Pope aka "The Grand Inquisitor"

The Pope to give his evil blessings to another world leader on March 13, giving Putin as he has Bush the foolish justification to participate in the upcomeing Pope's crusade and genocide.

By Greg Szymanski

Feb 24 2007

The dirty hands of the Vatican continue to manipulate world politics as Pope Benedict XVI and President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, are planning to have a good ole' Mafia 'sit down' March 13 in Rome. This is Putin's first visit with the Pope and critics who really and truly know the Vatican's hidden New World agenda claim Putin is arriving in the City of the Seven Mountains to get his "satanic blessings" and his marching orders from the evil empire.


pop: "don worry, i gonna make yo an offer yo cant refuse..."

LOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

son of a prophet said...

maybe pop should have a "sit down" with the judges, and make 'em "sit up straight" and acquit the dg of any falsely accused wrongdoing

son of a prophet said...

"....by the way, pops, what year you was "straightened out?"

heheheheheheeeeeeeee.........

son of a prophet said...

hey, by the way pops, you ever make jerry capeci's weekly column?

you not big time, unless yo get yo name in one of his weekly colums, goes all the way back to 1997


http://www.ganglandnews.com/
previous.htm

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
Your biggest problem is that you can't tell the difference between assumptions and facts, but in your SORRY mind, you think you know it all FROM INTRODUCTION TO THE END. I guess in your narcissitic mind you ALSO think you are a prophet & a VINDICTIVE prophet at that, if such an entity exists. LOL

Stay off the mushrooms mormon boy. All the crap you have been spewing is fact, correct?

We'll see who has it right and wrong in just a short period, and I'll be LOL, LOL, LOL'ing for years to come at your stupidity.

As for near the end, kapooey, moogie, and any other retard, let me pose this to you.

It's obvious fred johnson watches this board, if I am so wrong and not speaking the truth, why doesn't he re-butt ANYTHING I say? Because he knows I know what I am speaking of.

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
Retard lawyer? You must have some animosity towards this person too obviously. Maybe you even have a history with this person.

Yeah, you know the one that was supposed to have a MOL that totally validated the dorean process, and then once the indictments on the federal level came down he just disappeared.

Yeah, and also the one that defended Todd Ellis Swanson at his CPA sanction hearing in South Carolina that he lost with flying colors as well.

So, yes "Retard Lawyer".

near the end said...

justice7777777; Why in the world won't you answer the question about"Richard L. Jones";

Why does that topic scare you to death?

I mean it should; but in your mind why does it; really why?

mogel said...

Justice: What is a MOL? Is that some sort of acronym I should be familiar with?

mogel said...

Justice: Is Todd Ellis Swanson still practicing accounting with a CPA license, or do you really know?

papa_dont_preach said...

The problem with In-Justice's posts is that he's not telling the whole story either. Such as the many banks that walked away from the lien that was filed against them due to the allegedly illegal process. It's been two years In-Justice (or is that Farrel?). Your threatening words are just that, endless rhetoric.

mogel said...

Injustice said: "It's obvious fred johnson watches this board, if I am so wrong and not speaking the truth, why doesn't he re-butt ANYTHING I say? Because he knows I know what I am speaking of.
_________________________________

A BETTER QUESTION MIGHT BE, HAS HE EVER REBUTTED ANYTHING THAT ANYONE HAS SAID ON THIS BOARD? MAYBE HE'S JUST NOT AN ARGUMENTATIVE PERSON LIKE YOU?

SINCE HE DOESN'T SPEND HIS TIME IN DEBATE WITH ANYONE ELSE TOO, CAN WE CONCLUDE ALSO THAT HE AGREES WITH EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS TOO AND CAN'T DEFEND AGAINST ANY ANTI-DOREANITE RHETORIC TOO BECAUSE HE CHOOSES NOT TO RESPOND?

YOU'RE LOGIC IS PRETTY FLIMSEY, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE? ARE YOU A MIND READER TOO? WITH A SKILL LIKE THAT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ASK, WOULD YOU?
________________________________


justice77777777 said...
mogel said...
Retard lawyer? You must have some animosity towards this person too obviously. Maybe you even have a history with this person.

Yeah, you know the one that was supposed to have a MOL that totally validated the dorean process, and then once the indictments on the federal level came down he just disappeared.
__________________________________

Robert Locke disappeared? Boy that's really funny. Ever heard of the CCDN (Credit collection Defense Network)? Robert Locke has been setting up lawyers to defend against the banks illegal collection activity in all the States in the United States. Is that you're definition of DISAPPEARING? He spends almost all of his time in defending the rights of clients who have gotten in trouble with the illegal collection of the banks. I think you're the one smoking the mushrooms, or maybe you're just the misinformed one.

Course you already know he is sympathetic to the Dorean cause & process & believes that the process is on sound legal footing. He has never deviated from that stance, nor can you prove otherwise. LOL

mogel said...

Justice: Robert Locke has had many victories for clients against the banks. Do you need specific cases to cite?

Course being the deafeatist that you are, you only are interested in naming the defeats of Robert Locke or corrupt cases where the Judges have lied or have disregarded the facts.

papa_dont_preach said...

Mogel, MOL is the Memorandum of Law he helped write.

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Kyooya, I sent an email to "Pauligirl" asking her if she could find this court case since she is admittedly good at this type of research, but to no avail.

My conclusion is that she is only interested in a one sided version like posting "vapor money case" losses, and not the truth. She is only interested in posting derogatory information & not both sides or knowing of any case that is pro Dorean.
-----------------------------------
Wrong conclusion-I've looked but, there is nothing on the case in Pacer or Findlaw
Illinois Supreme Court cases are archived only back to 1996 and it doesn't show up as a US Supreme Court case. I've also seached Versuslaw which carries
U.S. Supreme Court
Federal Circuits
Federal District Courts
State Appellate Courts

I even signed up for LexisOne's free service. No access to cases.
I don't have access in Westlaw for cases outside NC. (Not without paying a premium for them. Anybody willing to give me a credit card number for that?)

As for being one sided...there are no cases for "vapor money" wins and no pro-Dorean cases. I can't post something that doesn't exist. I could probably find cases that individuals have won against banks for other reasons, like predatory lending.

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son of a prophet said...
she works for the govt. LOLO!
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No, I don't.
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KYHOOYA said...
mogel said...
There's only 1 court record on a Richard Jones in Springfield, Illinois that I could find according to the website:
www.courtrecords.org

Course one has to pay for this information.
--------------------------
Better make sure it's the right case before you pay for it. There are several cases involving a Richard Jones in Illinois but none I could access had anything thing to do with banking or fraud. Kurt may need to provide a bit more information.
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mogel said...
Justice: Is Todd Ellis Swanson still practicing accounting with a CPA license, or do you really know
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Todd Ellis Swanson, #23573
Greenville, SC 08/21/2006
THIS CAUSE coming before the Board at its offices at 1101 Oberlin Road, Raleigh,
Wake County, North Carolina, at public hearing, with a quorum present,
the Board finds, based on the evidence presented at the hearing on
August 21, 2006, that:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The parties have been properly identified;
however, Respondent has claimed to be and is also known as "Todd-Ellis; Swanson."
2. The Board has jurisdiction over the Respondent and this matter.
3. Respondent received at least fifteen (15) days written Notice of Hearing of
this Matter by personal service, certified mail, or other approved personal delivery.
4. Venue is proper and the Notice Hearing was properly held at 1101 Oberlin
Road, Raleigh, North Carolina.
5. Respondent had no objection to any Board Member's participation in the
Hearing of this Matter.
6. Respondent was not present at the Hearing and was not represented by
counsel.
7. Respondent was the holder of a certificate as a Certified Public Accountant
in North Carolina and is therefore subject to the provisions of Chapter 93 of the
North Carolina General Statutes (NCGS) and Title 21, Chapter 8 of the North
Carolina Administrative Code (NCAC), including the Rules of Professional Ethics
and Conduct promulgated and adopted therein by the Board.
8. In November of 2004, the Board received a complaint from a representative
of Chevy Chase Bank, F.S.B., regarding letters prepared and signed by Respondent
in support of an unlawful mortgage debt elimination scheme.
9. In February of 2005, the Board received a complaint from a representative
of Downey Savings and Loan Association, F.A., regarding letters prepared
and signed by Respondent in support of an unlawful mortgage debt elimination
scheme.
10. These complaints were also filed with the South Carolina Board of Accountancy
since Respondent is licensed in both jurisdictions; however, Respondent
lives and works in South Carolina.
11. Pursuant to a hearing before the South Carolina State Board of Accountancy
on October 27, 2005, the South Carolina State Board of Accountancy
entered a Final Order (Attachment 1) which was signed and issued on
December 30, 2005, in the matter of Todd Ellis Swanson, CPA, a/k/a
Todd-Ellis; Swanson, CPA, License #4808.
12. The South Carolina State Board of Accountancy, based upon a preponderance
of the evidence on the whole record, determined the Findings of Fact as listed
in the Final Order pages 1 -3, numbers 1-
10.
13. The South Carolina State Board of Accountancy, based upon careful consideration,
determined the Conclusions of Law as listed in the Final Order pages
3-5, number 1-8.
14. In the Final Order, the South Carolina State Board of Accountancy revoked
Respondent's South Carolina certificate and ordered that Respondent could not
apply for the issuance of a new South Carolina certificate for a period of not
less than three (3) years.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. Respondent's conduct which resulted in the revocation of his South Carolina
certificate, and the revocation itself, and Respondent's preparation and distribution
of an opinion letter that is inconsistent with generally accepted accounting
principles and that could be misinterpreted by or mislead the reader are
violations of NCGS 93-12(9)d and e, and 21 NCAC 8N .0201, .0202, .0203,
.0207, .0210, .0212, .0301(a), .0303, and .0305.
BASED ON THE FOREGOING, the Board
orders in a vote of 7 to 0 that:
1. The Certified Public Accountant certificate issued to Respondent, Todd Ellis
Swanson, is hereby permanently revoked.
http://www.nccpaboard.gov/Clients/NCBOA/Public/Static/10-2006.pdf

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Justice: Robert Locke has had many victories for clients against the banks. Do you need specific cases to cite?
==================
Do you have some cites? I'll be happy to look them up and post them.

In the meantime...here's one for you to look up.
Wells Fargo Bank, NA v. Ward, 2006-Ohio-6744.

whyudothat said...

Pauligirl said...As for being one sided...there are no cases for "vapor money" wins and


PG, you were already notified in a previous post of the "credit river decision" and the banks lost to vapor money in front of a jury.

Now you say quote "there are no cases for "vapor money" wins"
are you lying on purpose or do you jsut have the memory of a fly?

pick one

whyudothat said...

http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/02-04-05/discussion.cgi.1a.html

I suppose you will say it never happened then?
and you cant look it up right?

whyudothat said...

http://www.freedomdomain.com/banking/credit_river1.html

Pauligirl said...

whyudothat said...
Pauligirl said...As for being one sided...there are no cases for "vapor money" wins and


PG, you were already notified in a previous post of the "credit river decision" and the banks lost to vapor money in front of a jury.

Now you say quote "there are no cases for "vapor money" wins"
are you lying on purpose or do you jsut have the memory of a fly?

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I say it because it was declared a nullity.

Minn. Stat. § 480.04. The death of the justice of the peace rendered the proceedings against him moot, but the attorney was guilty of contempt for intentionally and deliberately advising the justice of the peace, who was not a practicing attorney, to disregard the stay order.....
However, to avoid the necessity of further proceedings to vacate and set aside any action taken herein by Mr. Mahoney or by any successor in office (see, 42 Am. Jur., Prohibition, § 47), we declare all proceedings in this matter in the justice court subsequent to relator's demand for removal of August 15, 1969, a nullity. Minn. St. 531.115 provides [**2] for removal as a matter of right from a justice of the peace court to a court presided over by a salaried judge, and it requires the justice of the peace to transmit the file of such action "forthwith." See, Smith v. Tuman, 262 Minn. 149, 114 N.W. (2d) 73.

Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case. I'll post the whole thing if you want it.

mogel said...

Justice: According to the sanctions board review: "6. Respondent was not present at the Hearing and was not represented by
counsel."
___________________________________

Justice, didn't you say that Swanson was represented by Locke at this hearing & dove down into flying colors defeat? Apparently the CPA review board said otherwise & that he WASN'T represented by counsel. Shows what you know!!! And as far as writing a "memorandum of law" for the Dorean Group, who's to say he DIDN'T do that? Because it wasn't shown to you, you therefore say it doesn't exist? Apparently, you didn't get your facts straight on the Swanson case, so why should we believe you know anything about this MOL?

Apparently, Swanson lost his South Carolina CPA license certificate for 3 years for "espousing incorrect accounting principles" according to the Board's conclusions & his North Carolina CPA license is on conditional review for 1 year from the judgement entry according to the last paragraph because he didn't renew his license fee on a timely basis in North Carolina.

What is the State accounting CPA professional Board going to say---that Swansons conclusion were factual? Get real!!!! That alone would probably bring the banks down & prove their fraud if they aren't operating according to correct accounting principles (GAAP). The accounting industry is about as corrupt as the banking & lending industry. Their symbiotic relationship is much like the Court system has with the banks & mortgage industry.

I hired a corrupt CPA (didn't know he was at the time), to do an audit on a HUD property I owned in Texas. He charged me $4,000 upfront fees, & never gave me a finished product AFTER THREE WEEKS OF WAITING TIME. He wanted another $4,000 to "finish the work." My audit on my property was never done timely, nor did I see any evidence that he did anything, nor would he ever produce anything. When I demanded that he produce his partial work, he replied "that it was his property" & that he didn't have to produce it or anything for that matter. I filed a complaint with the AICPA (licensing authority for CPA's), because he in essence stole my money, refused to return it, & refused to produce what I paid for. The hearing concurred with the corrupt CPA & THEY DID NOT SANCTION HIM OR FINE HIM, OR REVOKE HIS LICENSE of force him to do the right thing. I even threatened to put a stop payment on my check at my bank. Even my bank turned on me & wouldn't honor a stop payment. In defeat, I just hired someone else to do the job that a reputable CPA only charged me $2500 for & they did the work in 1 week's time.

So these governing bodies CREDIBILITY on making good decisions or to do the right thing, don't mean much to me based upon my own harrowing experiences.

whyudothat said...

Pauligirl said... Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case. I'll post the whole thing if you want it.

Even if that were true, that does not change the FACT that the president of the bank is ON THE RECORD under oath for saying,

"we create money out of thin air"

on the witness stand.

No difference of judge or technicality can or will change that truth. So the pres of the bank doesnt know any better either? hmmmm
something does not add up here, very very bad.

So yes, please post that part of the case for all to see when the president of the bank said that on record.

Would you?

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Justice, didn't you say that Swanson was represented by Locke at this hearing & dove down into flying colors defeat? Apparently the CPA review board said otherwise & that he WASN'T represented by counsel. Shows what you know!!!
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You may want to go back and read it again. The one I posted was from NC. He didn't go and he didn't have an attorney. NC permanently revoked his certificate.

Locke did represent him in SC and lost.

http://www.llr.state.sc.us/POL/Accountancy/Minutes/2005-10%20Meeting%20Minutes.pdf
A hearing was held on a complaint against Mr Todd Ellis Swanson, holder of CPA Certificate 4808, Case No. 57-1107. Geoffrey Bonham, Esquire represented the Board, Shirley Robinson acted as advice counsel to the Vice Chairman, while Robert K. Lock, Jr., Esq. and Marlene T. Sipes, Esq., represented Mr Swanson.
After the testimony of witnesses and the arguments and rebuttals were presented by counsel and rebuttal by Respondents, on motion by Debra Turner, seconded by McRoy Skipper, and unanimously passed, the Board went into Executive Session to receive legal counsel. On coming out of executive session on motion by Robert Foster, seconded by McRoy Skipper, and unanimously passed, the Vice Chairman announced that the Respondent had violated the CPA Practice Act, and his license is to be revoked for three years before he can apply for reinstatement.

mogel said...

"The death of the justice of the peace rendered the proceedings against him moot,"

Hence, the decision to void the Credit River Case is ALSO MOOT. Still a victory then against the lending establishment.

Course since the Judge died under mysterious circumstances, it also makes you wonder about the corruption to try to challenge this lower case ruling in Municipal Court.

Course the case you cited Pauligirl doesn't apply because a "salaried Judge" never heard the case, so the case you cited is also void, which is the justification to void the municipal case ruling. They just declared it a nullity WITHOUT HEARING THE EVIDENCE OR HAVING A CASE and having all relevant parties present. So by citing the authority (Smith vs. Tuman), they used to make it a nullity, makes no sense either as a justification.

"Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case" because he wasn't a salaried Judge on the corrupt payrolls? Is that your basis of law?

Also, how does a dead man transmit files to another Court to hear to perfect the spirit of Smith vs. Tuman?

I don't think the Court's basis to make the Bear River Case a nullity sounds very sound to me!!!

Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case???????? What do you mean by that, Pauligirl? Do you mean that all Justice of the Peace Judges that aren't salaried, don't have to be obeyed because all of their decisions are void by law, or at least in the State of Minnesota?

mogel said...

Pauligirl: If Swansons license in North Carolina was permanently revoked, & I remember reading that, what does paragraph 2 mean:

Conclusion of law

2. Respondent's certificate shall be placed on CONDITIONAL STATUS for one year from the date this order is approved.

If his CPA license status is permanently revoked in North Carolina, why would the board feel a need to mention any conditional license status at all?

At best, the boards findings appear to be very misleading to his status in North Carolina.

Pauligirl said...

whyudothat said...
Pauligirl said... Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case. I'll post the whole thing if you want it.

Even if that were true, that does not change the FACT that the president of the bank is ON THE RECORD under oath for saying,

"we create money out of thin air"

on the witness stand.


No, actually, he's not on record as saying that. This is a lower court decision. Non-appellate court decisions in Minnesota are not published; however, there is a related opinion of the Minnesota Supreme Court, In Re Jerome Daly, that was released on September 5, 1969. If what you were reading at that site was an offical transcript of the record, it would have the banker's name in it. It doesn't. While Daly entered an affidavit accusing the bank of "creating money" there is no offical record of that in court. In fact in a "Return to Order to show Cause" filed by Mahoney, he makes this statement "5. That the Plaintiff "Bank" did not appear at the hearing set by me
to consider the legal basis for their claim that the paper fiat Pederal Reserve
Notes are a legal tender."
Most of the filings are available here: http://www.fights4rights.com
/1/daily.php

Here is the offical statement:
285 Minn. 503, *; 171 N.W.2d 218;
1969 Minn. LEXIS 996, **


Jerome Daly v. Savage State Bank and Another

No. 42157

Supreme Court of Minnesota

285 Minn. 503; 171 N.W.2d 218; 1969 Minn. LEXIS 996


November 14, 1969

PRIOR HISTORY: [**1]
Petition in this court for a writ of prohibition by Savage State Bank to compel Martin V. Mahoney, justice of the peace of Credit River Township, Scott County, to refrain from enforcing certain orders and from further proceedings in an action brought by one Jerome Daly against petitioner and Eugene T. Kearney, postmaster at Savage, Minnesota.

DISPOSITION: Application dismissed.

HEADNOTES: Courts -- justice of peace court -- demand for removal -- effect.

COUNSEL: Fredrikson, Byron & Colborn, Ltd., James L. Baillie, and Keith Libbey, for petitioner.

OPINIONBY: PER CURIAM

OPINION: [*503] Petition for a writ of prohibition in the above-entitled matter instituted before Martin V. Mahoney, Justice of the Peace of Credit River Township, Scott County, Minnesota.

The death of Mr. Mahoney on August 22, 1969, makes these proceedings moot as to him.

However, to avoid the necessity of further proceedings to vacate and set aside any action taken herein by Mr. Mahoney or by any successor in office (see, 42 Am. Jur., Prohibition, § 47), we declare all proceedings in this matter in the justice court subsequent to relator's demand for removal of August 15, 1969, a nullity. Minn. St. 531.115 provides [**2] for removal as a matter of right from a justice of the peace court to a court presided over by a salaried judge, and it requires the justice of the peace to transmit the file of such action "forthwith." See, Smith v. Tuman, 262 Minn. 149, 114 N.W. (2d) 73.

The application for the writ of prohibition is dismissed.





This is a lower court decision. Non-appellate court decisions in Minnesota are not published; however, there is a related opinion of the Minnesota Supreme Court, In Re Jerome Daly, that was released on September 5, 1969. The citation for the decision is 171 N.W.2d 818 - or 284 Minn.567. A brief overview of this case: After a justice of the court issued a stay of proceedings against respondent attorney and a justice of the peace in an action brought by the attorney on behalf of a client against another individual and a bank pending resolution of the bank's petition for a writ of prohibition, the justice ordered the attorney and the justice of the peace to show cause why they should not be permanently restrained from further proceedings in the justice court.
After the stay order was served, the justice of the peace, upon motion of the attorney, entered findings, conclusions of law, and a judgment for the attorney's client. The attorney admitted that he and the justice of the peace intentionally violated the order because in their opinion the court did not have jurisdiction to issue it. The court held that it had the power to issue writs of prohibition restraining a court of limited jurisdiction from exceeding its power pursuant to Minn. Const. art. VI, § 2 and further had the power to issue ex parte an order to maintain the status quo pending a hearing on an application for a writ of prohibition. Acts by the justice of the peace court in excess of its jurisdiction were a nullity and subject to control by a writ of prohibition. The order executed by the justice of the court, acting in the name of the court, was a proper exercise of the court's authority pursuant to Minn. Stat. § 480.04. The death of the justice of the peace rendered the proceedings against him moot, but the attorney was guilty of contempt for intentionally and deliberately advising the justice of the peace, who was not a practicing attorney, to disregard the stay order.

If you can find an offical, from the court record, transcript that shows any different, please let me know.

Pauligirl said...

whyudothat said...
Pauligirl said... Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case. I'll post the whole thing if you want it.

Even if that were true, that does not change the FACT that the president of the bank is ON THE RECORD under oath for saying,

"we create money out of thin air"

on the witness stand.


No, actually, he's not on record as saying that. This is a lower court decision. Non-appellate court decisions in Minnesota are not published; however, there is a related opinion of the Minnesota Supreme Court, In Re Jerome Daly, that was released on September 5, 1969. If what you were reading at that site was an offical transcript of the record, it would have the banker's name in it. It doesn't. While Daly entered an affidavit accusing the bank of "creating money" there is no offical record of that in court. In fact in a "Return to Order to show Cause" filed by Mahoney, he makes this statement "5. That the Plaintiff "Bank" did not appear at the hearing set by me
to consider the legal basis for their claim that the paper fiat Pederal Reserve
Notes are a legal tender."
Most of the filings are available here: http://www.fights4rights.com
/1/daily.php

Here is the offical statement:
285 Minn. 503, *; 171 N.W.2d 218;
1969 Minn. LEXIS 996, **


Jerome Daly v. Savage State Bank and Another

No. 42157

Supreme Court of Minnesota

285 Minn. 503; 171 N.W.2d 218; 1969 Minn. LEXIS 996


November 14, 1969

PRIOR HISTORY: [**1]
Petition in this court for a writ of prohibition by Savage State Bank to compel Martin V. Mahoney, justice of the peace of Credit River Township, Scott County, to refrain from enforcing certain orders and from further proceedings in an action brought by one Jerome Daly against petitioner and Eugene T. Kearney, postmaster at Savage, Minnesota.

DISPOSITION: Application dismissed.

HEADNOTES: Courts -- justice of peace court -- demand for removal -- effect.

COUNSEL: Fredrikson, Byron & Colborn, Ltd., James L. Baillie, and Keith Libbey, for petitioner.

OPINIONBY: PER CURIAM

OPINION: [*503] Petition for a writ of prohibition in the above-entitled matter instituted before Martin V. Mahoney, Justice of the Peace of Credit River Township, Scott County, Minnesota.

The death of Mr. Mahoney on August 22, 1969, makes these proceedings moot as to him.

However, to avoid the necessity of further proceedings to vacate and set aside any action taken herein by Mr. Mahoney or by any successor in office (see, 42 Am. Jur., Prohibition, § 47), we declare all proceedings in this matter in the justice court subsequent to relator's demand for removal of August 15, 1969, a nullity. Minn. St. 531.115 provides [**2] for removal as a matter of right from a justice of the peace court to a court presided over by a salaried judge, and it requires the justice of the peace to transmit the file of such action "forthwith." See, Smith v. Tuman, 262 Minn. 149, 114 N.W. (2d) 73.

The application for the writ of prohibition is dismissed.





This is a lower court decision. Non-appellate court decisions in Minnesota are not published; however, there is a related opinion of the Minnesota Supreme Court, In Re Jerome Daly, that was released on September 5, 1969. The citation for the decision is 171 N.W.2d 818 - or 284 Minn.567. A brief overview of this case: After a justice of the court issued a stay of proceedings against respondent attorney and a justice of the peace in an action brought by the attorney on behalf of a client against another individual and a bank pending resolution of the bank's petition for a writ of prohibition, the justice ordered the attorney and the justice of the peace to show cause why they should not be permanently restrained from further proceedings in the justice court.
After the stay order was served, the justice of the peace, upon motion of the attorney, entered findings, conclusions of law, and a judgment for the attorney's client. The attorney admitted that he and the justice of the peace intentionally violated the order because in their opinion the court did not have jurisdiction to issue it. The court held that it had the power to issue writs of prohibition restraining a court of limited jurisdiction from exceeding its power pursuant to Minn. Const. art. VI, § 2 and further had the power to issue ex parte an order to maintain the status quo pending a hearing on an application for a writ of prohibition. Acts by the justice of the peace court in excess of its jurisdiction were a nullity and subject to control by a writ of prohibition. The order executed by the justice of the court, acting in the name of the court, was a proper exercise of the court's authority pursuant to Minn. Stat. § 480.04. The death of the justice of the peace rendered the proceedings against him moot, but the attorney was guilty of contempt for intentionally and deliberately advising the justice of the peace, who was not a practicing attorney, to disregard the stay order.

If you can find an offical, from the court record, transcript that shows any different, please let me know.

mogel said...

The problem with telling lies is that the government entities can't plug all of the loopholes, and that achilles heel will be their downfall. The Bank President in fact said on the court record, that "banks create money out of thin air".

No matter what the courts say about this lower case ruling, The Credit River case, you can't change what was said under oath.

If anything, the Bank President would know the truth how things work. He told the truth & this is one loophole that can't be plugged EVER.

All the lies ever told on this subject, still doesn't change the Fact that once upon a time, there was a fair hearing, with truthful witnesses and an honest Judge, a courageous attorney, and a fair judgment.

And all the legal mumbo jumbo & justification to make this case go away and become a so called nullity is just a pussy way to cover up the truth as if it never really happened.

mogel said...

Pauligirl said: "No, actually, he's not on record as saying that."
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How would you know that? The transcripts were never relinquished to another Court Judge. Wasn't that the reason Jerome was cited for contempt because he advised not to give up the transcripts of the proceeding?

mogel said...

Pauligirl said: "In fact in a "Return to Order to show Cause" filed by Mahoney, he makes this statement "5. That the Plaintiff "Bank" did not appear at the hearing set by me
to consider the legal basis for their claim that the paper fiat Federal Reserve
Notes are a legal tender."
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First of all, there are usually many hearings in a court proceeding and besides the Bank's President's statement was at the trial itself, not a preliminary hearing that went unattended by the bank.

Why do you think the higher court wanted the transcript so badly to be relinquished by Judge Mahoney? Why do you think Mr. Daly fought so hard that they didn't get it, even at his peril of getting disbarred? The Bar Association wanted to make sure that there wasn't any incriminating evidence that they couldn't dispose of and make a nullity too. Part of that evidence & testimony was the Bank President's testimony. His testimony was testified to also on exactly what he said. There were witnesses in the court on what was said too. Doesn't matter if it's not a recognized publication or not if there's a true record of it somewhere. It was said & the banks president testimony was affirmed by the testimony of others. That's good enough for an affirmation of truth. Sounds like you are just looking for reasons to minimize or change the truth.

mogel said...

Pauligirl said: "The court held that it had the power to issue writs of prohibition restraining a court of limited jurisdiction from exceeding its power"
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How did Judge Mahoney specifically EXCEED his jurisdictional power? How do you exceed your jurisdiction when you just rely on the constitution & what it says?

Oddly enough, that was the same defense that Mr. Daly said against the higher court that they were exercising jurisdiction they didn't have & so they ignored the higher court's unrighteous dictates.

The constitution is the highest authority in the land & that's the authority Mr. Daly & Judge Mahoney cited & stood upon. How is that ever improper?

Jurisdictional issues were never an issue during the municipal trial, or ever brought up as an issue by the Judge or by the bank, so both parties subjected themselves to the decision and jurisdiction of the Municipal Court. Why isn't the lower courts decision proper due to the acquiesence that existed before the verdict was rendered?

How about Bill Julians plea to have the Federal Court hear his issues in his own case & the Federal Court denied to hear his appeal of the District Court's ruling when he was fighting the foreclosure on his own home? How was that proper of the Federal Court to deny a valid appeal when there were Federal law issues that existed & were violated? The District Court didn't have jurisdiction to decide on Federal law issues, but did anyway, but both courts turned a blind eye to proper jurisdiction.

How is it proper for the Credit River decision to be challenged in a higher court & not proper in the Bill Julian case regarding the foreclosure of his home that involved Federal laws that were being violated? Can you explain the hypocrisy there of the Courts?

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son of a prophet said...

articbeacon.com says some interesting thins about the fromer pres.

KYHOOYA said...

Pauligirl

First off let me say that I think you post without biest for the most part, or that from my view you seem to be someone that is interested in 'case' and it's outcome more based of fact's rather than OP and what you post here is your best effort of that.

That said, In the case we are refering with Mr. Daily I beleave that there were part's of the original case that were pulled from record in regard to there use for Case law in other future trial's and this was one way to get it done (blocked from use)

Minn. Stat. § 480.04. The death of the justice of the peace rendered the proceedings against him moot, but the attorney was guilty of contempt for intentionally and deliberately advising the justice of the peace, who was not a practicing attorney, to disregard the stay order.....
However, to avoid the necessity of further proceedings to vacate and set aside any action taken herein by Mr. Mahoney or by any successor in office (see, 42 Am. Jur., Prohibition, § 47), we declare all proceedings in this matter in the justice court subsequent to relator's demand for removal of August 15, 1969, a nullity. Minn. St. 531.115 provides [**2] for removal as a matter of right from a justice of the peace court to a court presided over by a salaried judge, and it requires the justice of the peace to transmit the file of such action "forthwith." See, Smith v. Tuman, 262 Minn. 149, 114 N.W. (2d) 73.

Mahoney didn't have the authority to hear the case. I'll post the whole thing if you want it.


Now in this part of record first stating that Mahoney did'nt have the right to hear the case was'nt correct from what I have read.
There were more than one atempt to have this heared by other courts and the reponce in these were that the courts either said it was not in there jurisdiction or the judge could not do to a biest and others this was do to the fact that they were on federal payrolls and could'nt hear the case for that fact in so causing the biest for the Federral bank. So this came down the line of court to court in till it reach the Justice of the peace M court who agreeed to hear it . there are the facts around this case writen in a letter from Mr. Daily just to keep the record on this case from getting changed by the higher courts as he new they would be effort to do so.

In his letter he refers to the trial where the Bank was rep. by the bank Pres. and on the record the justice asked the bank pres if it was true that the money was created out of banking entriesas was stated, the bank Pres. did say that was the way it was done with all the bank under the fed.

I beleive that there has been great effort to keep this case from use as Case law in trial dio to it's obvious content and the resulting other case law that would cause the banks to lose.
Let's all aggree to this one thing if we might and in so doing we can have the understanding of it fact.


The bank's are set up the way they are under the Federal Res. sys. and that system is one based on entries not having anything tangeble backing them. That the only thing that keep's our system going is the peoples trust that is will keep working and that they will be able buy the thing they need with the notes they carry.
This sysytem came into play because of many thing and eventsone being the depresion, and the stock market crash , witch brought on the run on the bank's

now we could but I won't go into all sorts of different talks about why that happended but the fact is it what caused the system of today to created.
that being the case and the facts that if this system were to fall itto the minds of the country men and women that the money they carry is only a Note and has no worth than most of the people would be scared into a panic that would cause the colapes of this countries money system and another great depresion (one thing that would cause it I still think that its going to happen soon with or without this) and the PTB will breeak evry law in their effoert to stop anyone from causeing this colapes of the country and it's lose of faitth in this money system.

It show in all thing today hat the Gov't has taken a lot of time to make sure that the peoplke of today are not ED in the way the money system and the Federal Res work do to the nature of the system and the fact that show it for what it is along are enough to send most common people into a non truting frame of mind and there by lose of their faith in the dollar.

So again when we talk about this we must get by the fact that the gov't is try and will keep on doing what it deems neede to stop larger efforts to expose this system because they no it's is not going to keep working but there is no replacment at this time ( THeir working on it with the ERO and the one world Gov't system) theonly way it can be corrected without throwing this country into a total messs and don't think they are not keeping the fact that it could happen as in this would be why you hear of the training of police to deal with civil unrest and why you see andhear they are setting up camp's to house people should this come about.

When you have power like Gates & Chase bank and the rest all betting on the fact thta theU.S. dollaris going down then you should take a good look at it these peole have been around and they are not going to lose on these kinda investment trust that if anything. sure the dollar went up last year and I think one investor lost like 14 billion but watch he's still sticking with the fact that the dollar wioll be goibng down even with that lose he just said they were early in their investment not wrong. the Gov't is running around right now doing all it can to keep everyone thinking that the Dumb ass up in the white housse did'nt make a mess of thing in the past 8 years on his way out . as do the REP say all the time they don't ant the whole thing falling apart well their in power they want to be able to blame that on the DEM's after teir out. they all ways say that the DEM"s screw it up then they fix it and as soon as the demm get it again they mess it up again .. Right o.k. sure I;ll by that lets seeyou had the books in the Black when the REp's got a hold of it and were now in the RED by how much ? I just can't wait to har their spin on this one when they leave office.

One last thing as I have to go and have gotten way offttrack here .

Hav'nt anyone of you ever thought about the fact that the guy (Bush) running thing is the son of the the guy running things just 8 years prior I mean come on how in the hell did we let this happen there has to be some kind of record or lotto number that is way out there to think of the facts that the the father and son would be the pres. of this country .

That one thing has to be the most blantant act showing the lack of caring or effort by the People for the Peoplke inn thius country and a sure sign that the Gov't is being run not by the poeple .

WE all better wake up and start to get involoved here this old I'm to busy crap is 'nt going to put food on the tabkle when the shit hits the fann


and the Gov't is for sur making a big play in the regards of this case with Dorean they had to the group got to large and was making a threat on the bankingf system .. that dos'nt make them playing unfare any more right it just show how iun perparired they are for they thouth all the dimbing up of people would keep this fact aboutr the Fed res. sys . hidden for a lot longer.

And then there was the internet at light speed the info flowed from one side of the country to the other what a great little invention this is but with all things there is good abd bad for it's creators and the ones who use it .


Mr. daily made the effort to have this heard in high court but for more than one was shout down to the jutice court that did. and for the higher courts to come back now and say that it is viod do to that one thing is B.S. and another show of how the case was going to hurt the moneyt system and the Gov't can't have that and that is it there is no other big thinbg going on


you have two guy's loscked up for two years w/o bail or a trial and doid not wave there rights to a speedy trial witch by anyone good resone should have taken placve long ago and the delays tha somje will post that the hole thing is do to a view doc that kurt put up to the court is B.S.

look

judge who shopuld'nt be sitting on this case because of his biest and who has made it a great effort to want to sit this case.

their shipping out of state attempt to cause the guys to fold their hand 9 mo. did'nt work

they have kept them away from everything for two years on a white collor crime without bail or trial and for what ???

TO GET THEM TO FOLD AND SO THEY DON'T CAUSE A PROBLEM (WITCH THEY WERE STARTING TO DO BY THE WRITEN LAW)

THE GOV'T HAS BEEN PLAY THE WIATING GAME LOCK THEM UP TALKE WAY EVERYTHING AND WAIT IN TILL THEY BREAK.

THERE IS NO OTHER GOOD RESONE FOR THE DELAYS AND ALL OF THE RESRT OF THE CRAP AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO WORD FOR WORD ON THE TOPIC I'M HERE LET LOOK AT THE DOC THAT KURT HAS FILED AND SEE HOW THEY DELAIED THINGS, LETS LOOK AT T5HE COURTS RESONE FOR NO BAIL , LETS LOOK AT THE FACT AROUND HOW TIME ON THE CLOCK CAN STOP DO TO SOME ONE BEINGT ADDED TO A FED CASE AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF TIME HAS GONE BY .


TELL ME HOW THE GOV'T IS PLAYING BY THE RULE AND THE THESE GUYS HAVE NOT HAD THEIR RIGHTS STOMPTED ON . THE GOV'T HAS THE ONE THAT COULD HELP TO SCARED TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY HAFVE STOOT DOWN ANYON WHO TRIED SO FAR WITHOUT RECORS


JUST LET THEM KEEP GOING THE WAY THEY ARE AND SOON GUESS WHAT THE PLAY THEIR MAKING IS GOINJG TO SHOW THEM FOR WHAT THEYARE BECAUSE IT HAS NO OTHER CHOOSE BUT TO. THEY ARE LOOKING BAD NOW WITH JUST WHAT I SAID ABOVE LET ALONE ALL THE REST .

PG please post5 anything that would show how these two are locked up for the 2 yaers time when they never waived their right son time and anything you might have to shoiw other case l;aw that this would be o.k. and also really more so the case if any that the court can add some def. to a case after 1 1/2 years and stop the clock for it. just would like to see if there is anything I doin't5 know of on this cause I have never heard of such a thing un lesss it's unlawfull in do so .

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Pauligirl said: "In fact in a "Return to Order to show Cause" filed by Mahoney, he makes this statement "5. That the Plaintiff "Bank" did not appear at the hearing set by me
to consider the legal basis for their claim that the paper fiat Federal Reserve
Notes are a legal tender."
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First of all, there are usually many hearings in a court proceeding and besides the Bank's President's statement was at the trial itself, not a preliminary hearing that went unattended by the bank.

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Not in this case. Daly had been foreclosed prior to this and refused to vacate. This was supposed to be a simple hearing on unlawful detainer. The bank's attorney, Melby,was surprised when
Daley called for a jury. According to Melby, here's what happened:
I, Theodore R. Mellby, being duly sworn, on oath,deposes and states:
I am the attorney for plaintiff in the above entitled action.
The procedure followed in this action is important to a thorough understanding
of the deliberate attempt on the part of Martin V. Mahoney and Jerome
Daly to harass bank officials, lawyers and the Court by disregarding the Order
of the above Court dated January 30, 1969.
On June 26, 1967, the First National Bank of Montgomery, Minnesota, (hereinafter
referred to as Bank) foreclosed its mortgage on real estate owned by
Jerome Daly. The mortgage is dated the 8th day of May, 1964, and recorded in
the office of the Register of Deeds for the County of Scott, State of Minnesota,
as document #113751. The redemption period expired on June 26, 1968, and Jerome
Daly refused to peaceably relinquish possession of said real estate.
On August 28, 1968, the Bank commenced an unlawful detainer action against
Jerome Daly. Service was not effected at least three (3) days prior to date of
hearing.
The unlawful detainer action was refiled with Justice Vern Mabee on 9-9-68
and 9-26-68 but service could not be effected at least three (3) days prior to
the date of hearing.
On October 10, 1968, the unlawful detainer action was refiled with Justice
Vern Mabee and Jerome Daly was duly served. Jerome Daly served an affidavit of
prejudice against Justice Mabee and the file was transferred to Justice Ben
Morlock. On October 14, 1968, I filed an affidavit of prejudice against Justice
Morlock. The file was transferred to Justice Martin V. Mahoney.
The unlawful detainer action was tried before Justice Martin V.
Mahoney, Credit River Township, Scott County, Minnesota, by a jury of Twelve
(12) on December 7, 1968. The Court also included Justice William E. Drexler,
1602 Selby, St. P1, Minnesota, who informed he was an attorney.
The trial began promptly at 10 o'clock A.M. The defendant, in open
Court, requested a jury of twelve (12). This was the first time defendant knew
the matter was to be tried to a jury. A jury of twelve (12) was impaneled.
I requested to see the list of jurors required by M.S.A. 531.34. The court
was unable to furnish me with a list of petit jurors or explain the manner in
which these perspective jurors were selected. Because of noncompliance with
M.S.A. 531.33, 531.34, and 531.35, I challenged the jury panel and my challenge
was denied. At this point Justice Drexler admonished me "Get Going', because
he wasn't going to spend all day trying this case". Justice Drexler asked the
jury panel several introductory questions and permitted the respective parties
to conduct the voir dire. I was personally aware of the fact that William
Wildinger, a member of the jury panel, was a handy man in the defendants law
office. I asked several questions calling for answers intending to indicate
this juror could not be fair and impartial. I moved to strike William Wildinger

for cause and Justice Mahoney granted the challenge. Next, I asked Mr. Daly
had represented any of the jury panel in the capacity of an attorney. Ray
Warren, a juror, indicated that Mr. Daly had represented him and that his case
had been settled on Friday, December 6, 1968. I moved to strike Mr. Warren
for cause and Justice Drexler informed me that motions to strike for cause were
not allowed in Justice Court. I protested very strongly and was informed by
Justice Drexler that the voir dire could not be conducted on an individual
jury basis and I would be permitted to ask only questions directed to the
entire jury panel. Justice Drexler again announced that he wanted to "get going
with this trial so it didn't last all day"' With respect to my motion to strike
jurors for cause in Justice Court, see M.S.A. 531.41.
At the conclusion of the voir dire the jury panel was down to eleven (11)
members. Three talesmen were called making a panel of fourteen (14) jurors. The
defendant waived his pre-emptory challenges but I did not. I informed the court
that if I exercised all pre-emptory challenges the jury panel would be less than
the twelve (12) requested by the defendant. Justice Drexler informed me that
Justice Mahoney's brother was in the back of the Courtroom and that he would
be called as a perspective juror if I insisted on using all of my pre-emptories.
I objected, my objection was overruled. I struck Mr. Warren and Eric Alstrand
and waived my remaining pre-emptory challenges.
Prior to the submission of my evidence I cited M.S.A. 530.03 and
requested to the Court to convene the trial in a more suitable quarters. The
Courtroom was connected to a saloon by two inside doors. The saloon and the
Courtroom was divided by an area where groceries were on shelves. My motion was
denied.
At the conclusion of the trial the defendant submitted requested questions
to the jury. I objected, citing M.S.A. 530.04 which indicates that no Justice
of the Peace shall charge the jury. Justice Drexler sustained the objection.
Justice Drexler indicated, however, he would allow the defendants requested instructions
as an exhibit. I objected and my objection was overruled. The exhibits were
numerous and included several books offer by defendant. Plaintiffs exhibits
included the banks foreclosure record. The jury deliberated ten minutes.
On march 28, 1969, I was informed that Jerome Daly represented William E.
Drexler, William Wildinger, and Leo Zurn in the recent past. The legal issue
raised by Jerome Daly in representing these people, all of whom were involved in
the unlawful detainer action before Justice Mahoney, was the unlawful creation of
money and credit. I am attaching documents to substantiate this fact. I am also
enclosing a list of the jurors I prepared at the time of the unlawful datainer
action trial.
The sole argument used by Jerome Daly at the time of trial of the unlawful
detainer action was that Federal Reserve Notes did not constitute legal tender and
that Plaintiff unlawfully created money and credit. Attached is a permanent
injunction restraining Jerome Daly from commencing or prosecuting any suit, action
or proceeding in any Court regarding unlawful creation of money and credit.
On December 9, 1969, judgement for defendant was entered in Justice Court,
Credit River Township, County of Scott, Justice Martin V. Mahoney. Affiant verily
believes Jerome Daly drafted the judgement and decree aid memorandum of the Court
attatched thereto.
Plaintiff duly appealed therefrom to the District Court, Scott County,
Minnesota. On January 6, 1969, Justice Martin V. Mahoney, Credit River Township,
Scott County, Minnesota, issued in NOTICE OF REFUSAL TO ALLOW APPEAL, a copy of
which is attached. Affiant verily believes Jerome Daly drafted said document
asserting the Two dollars ($2.00) remitted to Justice Mahoney was not legal tender.
On January 8, 1969, Honorable Harold . Flynn, Judge of District Court, Scott
County, Minnesota, issued an ORDER requiring Justice Martin V. Mahoney to show
cause before his Court on January 17, 1969, why he should not make a return on
appeal.
On January 15, 1969, defendant filed an affidavit of prejudice against the
Honorable Harold E. Flynn with the Clerk of District Court, Scott County, Minnesota.
On January 16, 1969, Honorable Harold F. Flynn issued ORDER TRANSFERRING
TRIAL to the Honorable Arlo E. Haering, the Chief Judge of the First Judicial
District. Haering on the Order to show cause was noticed for hearing on January
24, 1969.
On January. 20, 1969, defendant obtained an exparte order from Justice Martin
V. Mahoney ordering plaintiff to appear before said Justice on January 22, 1969,
to show cause why the Justice Courts notice of refusal to allow appeal therein
should not be made absolute. Plaintiff did not appear.
Hearing on the District Court Order to show cause was duly held on January
211, 1969. On January 30, 1969, Honorable Arlo E. Haering, Judge of District
Court, McLeod County ordered Martin V. Mahoney, Justice of the Peace, Credit River
Township, County of Scott, State of Minnesota, to make return on appeal to the
Clerk of District Court in and for the County of Scott, State of Minnesota.
On February 25, 1969, defendant appealed to the Minnesota Supreme Court.
Defendant did not comply with Rule 107, Civil Appellate Procedure. On March 26,
1969, plaintiff made application to the Minnesota Supreme Court for an order dismissing
defendant's appeal.
On April 15, 1969, the Minnesota Supreme Court dismissed defendant's appeal.
On : – -- 1969, I contacted the Clerk of District Court, Scott
County, Minnesota, and was informed that Justice Martin V. Mahoney had not complied
with the order of the Court dated January 30, 1969, by making a return on appeal.
Further Affiant sayeth not
Theodore R. Melby
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Please excuse the missing letters and mispelling. I was copying from old files converted to pdf docs.
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Oh, and Drexler was one of Daly's clients (for not paying his income taxes) From his case:William E. Drexler,
Defendant.
NATURE OF CONTROVERSY
The state of Minnesota served a summons and complaint on the
defendant, William B. Drexlor, on September 9, 1968, alleging that
he has not paid the penalty and interest on his 1965 and 1966 Minnesota
individual income taxes. The plaintiff received, within twenty days
after service of the summons and complaint, an answer and a counterclaim
from Jerome Daly, attorney for defendant, and an answer from
William R. Drexler, attorney pro so. The counterclaim alleged that
the State of Minnesota is in conspiracy with the Federal Reserve and
national banking system to defraud the defendant and the people generally
by the illegal creation of money and bank credit. One million dollars is
the relief requested in the counterclaim.
(They lost)
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Do you see a pattern here? The jury was made up of people that either worked for Daly or were his clients. The attorney Drexler was a client. Daly wrote the opinion.

How did Daly end up? Disbarred.

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Pauligirl: If Swansons license in North Carolina was permanently revoked, & I remember reading that, what does paragraph 2 mean:

Conclusion of law

2. Respondent's certificate shall be placed on CONDITIONAL STATUS for one year from the date this order is approved.

If his CPA license status is permanently revoked in North Carolina, why would the board feel a need to mention any conditional license status at all?

At best, the boards findings appear to be very misleading to his status in North Carolina.
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I finally figured it out. You read into the next column on somebody else's disciplinary
action.