Monday, April 23, 2007

Booty Call (04-01-07)

In my rap infested environment this term means something that is a dissipation but to the war strategist it is a cherished moment in history. Once the enemy is vanquished the spoils or booty becomes the possession of the victor. As I see this moment of history approaching I’m beginning to imagine the problems of logistics and distribution that are attached to this. If you were certain of the Lord’s blessing do you have a plan? I think it is time for those of you that are certain, you should begin the planning now. To the fools this will never make sense but then they are more familiar with taking it in the booty than taking the booty.

We recently exposed our case to a legal expert. I’ll qualify the expert in their system and not one particularly lawful in training. From a mere examination of our set of facts under the scope of their statutes and procedures he said Dorean was the worst fraud he’d ever seen and we were stupid to initiate it. I will not explain to you what he meant by that because if you are possessed with the truth you will understand it. If you are not you will find another nugget to entertain your folly. I delight in both. What has become clear is the government has bet the farm on our surrender. What a silly wager. Behind this they have nothing. Only those with no accountability or responsibility can enjoy these fruitless endeavors in vanity. Criminals can never understand the motives of honest men so they always miscalculate. At the end of these miscalculations is a pile of spoils and a booty call.

20 comments:

realitycheck said...

Hey all you Dorean koolaid drinkers.
Do you really think that when the grifters,Scamman and Robbin'are found guilty, that there is still hope of some sort of windfall coming your way?. Yeah, I know. They are just playing this out so when they win their case, the "settlements" will be much greater than if they loose. Common sense would dictate that if there was a snowballs chance that there was any possibilty of a settlement to the victims, er, I mean clients, that option would have been played out by Scamman, Robbin',and Dr Dred, to help those victims, er,I mean clients that lost so much to this proven process. I think those that lost could give a crap if the "settlement" would be larger if a favorable outcome was attained. They would most likely be happy with anything at this point. Settlement? There is no stinking settlement. LOLOLOLOLOL.......

realitycheck said...

As I see this moment of history approaching I’m beginning to imagine the problems of logistics and distribution that are attached to this. If you were certain of the Lord’s blessing do you have a plan? I think it is time for those of you that are certain, you should begin the planning now.




Yeah, send Dr Dred some dead presidents and he'll hook ya up with your off shore account. LOLOLOL

habakkuk said...

"realitycheck".....Who's this new guy??? Or maybe its Neo or Taco re-incarnated.

realitycheck said...

Wrong-0, Habakkuk. Not neo or taco. Just someone who has been screwed by this "proven" process, and is sick and tired of all the bullshit put out by Scamman and Dr Dred.
Oh and mogle, don't tell me it was not the grifters fault that I lost my house. By the time word got around that we were not to stop paying our mortgages (remember that in the beginning we were told to stop paying after the re-conveyance was recorded:yeah I was in the first batch)it was too late. I had a buyer for the house,but once they saw all the crap surrounding the title, they ran like hell. And because there was no way to contact ANYBODY to get the trust dissolved, it went into foreclosure. So now I can't even buy a shithole house because of this deal, unkess I want to pay 14 fricken percent interest. Oh zippity, fricken , do dah day.

habakkuk said...

"I had a buyer for the house,but once they saw all the crap surrounding the title, they ran like hell. And because there was no way to contact ANYBODY to get the trust dissolved, it went into foreclosure. So now I can't even buy a shithole house because of this deal, unkess I want to pay 14 fricken percent interest. Oh zippity, fricken , do dah day. "

I refuse to believe any more of these stories.

mogel said...

Reality Check: "So now I can't even buy a shithole house because of this deal, unkess I want to pay 14 fricken percent interest."
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Hey Mr. Reality: Ever heard of Seller Financing? With Seller financing you can negotiate an interest rate lower than A paper interest rates from banks. You don't have to pay 14% unless you insist on doing business with thieves. Course with your tunnel vision, you've created your own victimized doom & the "I can't do it mentality" that comes along with that. How about a lease with an option to buy with 50% of the lease payments going to a down payment, or a hundred other creative ways to purchase a home? Here's a site that even gives $5,000-$25,000 unsecured loans from private sources to people with even E credit, or no credit at all, you know people like you that have charge offs & repossessed items on their credit reports:

www.prosper.com

You could take that loan & buy a home for cash on ebay & own a home free & clear. Might have to move to the Midwest to get such low prices like that, but oh well, at least you're not a renter. I've seen homes go anywhere from $5,000-$20,000, nice homes that need little fix up, homes that have as much as 4,000 square feet.

With every can't you come up with, I can think of a can.

So when you stopped making your payments, did you ever think to create an insurance sinking fund, just in case things didn't work out as planned?

How fitting that your username is "reality check", because you definitely need one.

mogel said...

"And because there was no way to contact ANYBODY to get the trust dissolved, it went into foreclosure."
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I doubt that very much too, but even if it were true in your particular case, even though highly doubtful, you could have always hired a lawyer to do the work to get title back in your name, so I'm not buying your hard luck story. After all, what a great cash flow treasure chest you must have saved not having to make any payments, right? Or should I conclude that you spent that money on frivolous things & saved nothing even though you had no mortgage payment for at least 6 months or longer? You could have saved your home, & even sold it, as many Dorean clients did, but your own negligence and tunnel vision, gave you no chance whatsoever since you must not have tried very hard to look at all of your options. You could have filed a TILA audit in Federal Court & that could have stopped any foreclosure. Many Dorean client did that & they still have their home even today, since it's tied up in litigation. After all, with all of the extra savings you had from not making any mortgage payments, you could have afforded an attorney to represent you to accomplish those things.

You say, you didn't think to do those things or didn't know of those options?

Yea, that's precisely my point. You didn't have a back up plan & you didn't plan at all. You wanted everything done for you & put on a silver platter with no work or responsibility of your own. When you live that way, it's hardly totally all the fault of someone else, but that's what you judge to be. Shame on you for glorifying yourself as a victim. "As a man thinketh, so is he."

mogel said...

Reality Check:

One more thing that is important to mention: There will be a settlement, just as certain as your arguments don't hold any water or intelligent thought.

SOP said...

rc, you lost you house to f-c, but just hole on, cause lik they say, what go round, comes round.


soon u can buy u own house like that. soon they will be '0000s of focloshers howses to buy for p-nuts.

jus' hang on a bit mo.....


the loomati are runnin' naked down the streets; dint yo see them yet? all they had on was they underwhere....


sumthins about the king had no cloths.....

SOP said...

and what happen to that son of a prophet....i heard that he cant login no mo because somehow his password did not work anymo......??

SOP said...

"cracking the REAL code"

seems like mathematical genuis jim mccanney has solved the mathematical equation for generating prime nimbers* that has remained an enigma for centuries.....

*prime number= a number that has only 1 and itself as multiplicative factors; ie., 1,2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29 etc...

he says that the luminates arent happy about this as it will f**k up their RFID tags on humans...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!

read the story below....


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April 24, 2007 posting ... i am not new to smear campaigns against my good name ... this has been going on since i was at cornell and has been constant ever since ... but lately and behind the scenes there has been an all out effort to get to people that are becoming educated and biased towards my work to stand down and remain clear of associations with me ... especially since the calculate primes book and DVD have come out ... there sure is a lot of professional jealousy out there also ... people that are ranking in their field who are grinding an axe ... like say the people who recently won mathematical prizes thinking they had proven that the prime numbers are random ... and my public release of the prime number solution shows that any third grader now can calculate and understand the patterns of the prime numbers ... but there is more than that going on ... WAAAYYYY more ... the other day during one of our regular internet searches one of my volunteer staff discovered a page some internet clowns were trying to bring on line attempting to claim that i am "one of their research staff for planet X" and attempting to associate me with ... yup you got it ... none other than the "zeta quack lady" ... we do what we now call the "deep internet searches" that dig farther into the internet for new items that have not surfaced yet ... and there they have me big as life associated "with the top planet x researchers of the day" including nancy nut case ... claiming that i have posted myself as one of their "research staff" on planet x ... they put what appears to be a map of sitchen's and claim that i am saying that it is my orbit for planet x ... pure garbage and of course i never post on any page other than my own as i always have ... so anyone who knows me would know that this is a bogus site run by bogus internet trailer trash ... when you go to internic on this page ... none of the web hosting information checks out either ... the phone contact numbers do not work and the email address bounces back ... this is being dealt with off line but there is another side to the current ploy at attempting to smear my name ... there are people very busy going around the planet to anyone who shows support for me or my work and keeping the topic of the calculate primes and other topics out of the news ... they are keeping a ridiculous flow of misinformation about me in its place ... there is far to much background effort being placed on 1) smearing my name amongst professionals and talk show hosts and 2) attempting to replace it with disinformation ... why would anyone be so worried about a little math problem that even third graders can understand ??? because every hacker on the planet now has the tools to start jamming the RFiD chip "industry" and don't forget those warehouses full of human RFiD chips that are already built and hard wired with the encryption codes that would make literal slaves out of all of you ... someone's plan is coming apart at the seams ... and for a lot more reasons than just this ... we are seeing a real panic from the nut cases that think they are running things on this planet ... this tells us 2 things ... they are really paranoid about their control status and are losing their grip and 2) as with any desperate people ... desperate people do desperate things ... keep your back side covered and be prepared ... keep your gas tank full and your water filter handy and be ready to take care of yourselves ... the shooting at virginia tech was one of their desperate moves in my interpretation ... a sideways move that is so characteristic of these insane people ... and just remember that the past 2 week's of "news" (from the controlled smooze nooze news media) has been dominated by diversion smoke screen news of the don imas story and the virginia tech shooting story ... lots of other things going on behind these smoke screens ... one last thought ... the next two presidents are already picked ... the next one will be hillary (of the bush clinton crime family) and then brother JEB who got a public nod the other day from the daddy bush to step down for 2008 and run in the "next round" ... by then people should be ready for another bush he claims ... and just remember one little facet of this ... if hitler would have won WWII, the first one to greet him with open arms in New York Harbor would have been presott bush and we would have the same gang running washington (probably renamed to hitlerton) as we have today ... the bush crime family ... jim mccanney

realitycheck said...

Hey, moogle. I don't doubt that you doubt what I said. You know what??? I don't give a crap what you or habakkuk of kahooya, sop, etc,etc,etc think. I could not contact ANYBODY. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????? ANYBODY. NO EMAIL, NO PHONE,NO POOL NO,PETS.NO SMOKE SIGNALS, NO SIMAFORES, NOTHING. COULD NOT CONTACT FLEA LE ICOMPETENT, NO ONE. SO STFU ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!


HEY AND ABOUT SELLER FINANCING. YEAH I HAVE HEARD OF IT AND HAVE LOOKED INTO IT> MOST OF THE SELLER FINANCING HOMES I HAVE SEEN HAVE SOME TERRIBLE ISSUES. MOSTLY THEY ARE PIECES OF CRAP. I HAVE A LARGE FAMILY AND CANT JUST GO LIVE IN SOME TUMBLEDOWN TWO BEDROOM FIXER UPPER.

So because of these two scammers, I should compromise and just live anywhere? Buy a house on ebay????LOLOLO what kind of stuff are you smokin. It must be laced with LDS, er I mean LSD.

clueless_fudd said...

realitycheck said...
By the time word got around that we were not to stop paying our mortgages (remember that in the beginning we were told to stop paying after the re-conveyance was recorded:yeah I was in the first batch)it was too late.

realitycheck said...
COULD NOT CONTACT FLEA LE ICOMPETENT, NO ONE.

Hey RC, maybe YOU should stfu! You just contradicted your own statements.

If you were "part of the first batch", why would you be attempting to contact a broker? If you truly were part of the first batch, then you would NOT have had a broker?

You are an idiot or a lying fool, and probably deserve all you get from life, because you do not take any responsibliity for your actions.

realitycheck said...

HEY fuddpucker. I did not say I was part of the first batch of non-broker victims now did I. FLEA was my broker asswipe. So no contradiction there, O.K. buddy?
How compassionate of you.Are you one of the so called "Christians" that like to twist Scripture to fit your needs? Or are you one of the conspiracy whack-o's that beleive all of SOP's rants?
So I deserved to loose my house on this "proven process" Tell that to my wife and kids, dickwad

GYHOOYA said...

It would seem that Googles has screwed things up and the only way to post now is that you have to first go to the page where you would sign up for a new acct. then pick the spot that says ("If you already have an a Googles acct") and click that then when sent to the page to sign in you have to enter your e-mail that was given for your acct and pass word . Then it will send you back to this page.

If you have an acct I would not think it will work here because I have tried it all sorts of ways and it's not It would seem that Googles is attempting to do some kind of info gathering as they do. If it is not well know by now that Googles is a company that will do what ever it is aked by the Gov't then it should be because the facts are this I have seen this take place with all sorts of things on the net from when doing a search for on line pharmacies that was turning up allof these results but if you clicked on them they were going tothese different not where they were say sites as in

Googles is blocking thing in searches that it deems to be some it dos'nt want you to get to or that have'nt gone through their processes of verified and selected process. witch is nothing more than cencorship of the internet. Know doubt this would be do to presure from Gov't saying it would like them to do to complants like the one we here hear about the mortgage ME and the online drugs through online pharacies being delt with by this rather than waiting and going through the legal means they sould be weather time consuming or not that is the way the process work you have to follow the chain of putting through it to get new laws to stop things

Well as we see all around us these days there are different ways to skin a cat and the Gov't is no stranger to how these work and how to use them don't believe me try and do a search for online pharms. and see what you get bact then read what it says on the to of one or more of a selected site then read the bottom of it where it reads the true adderes where you will be sent and the go for it and see if you get to the one you were staring with .

Now do this not on the first page but go in about 2 or three because by now most of the companies that were'nt sign up to Google process of verification at the begaining of the year are now so it willl go to their site .
But you either do or not believe me at the start of the year there were all kinds of site that were blocked by Googles and I'm sure went un seen by most.

Just the fact that Googles blocka ny site that are run on their search eng. is scary enough to say that they are working aith the PTB to block things that THEY DON'T want you to see.


if trying that is not enough to show you that it true thetry this do a search to find where to get registered to be listed on Gooles as a online Pharmacy and look what shows up and tell me that I'm wrong.

Gooles and this kinda thing is the cencership of the net and needs to stop

Just one more thing to think about Was'nt it kind strange how you hads this well set in and stable company that was doing very well in fact as the top search eng. on the NEt called Yahoo and then over night this company who by the way is way to close to Ebay in the adderess way for them not to be linked somehow but it strike me odd to say the least that this company Googles went straight to the top and right over Yahoo in just a blink of an eye .

I wonder how you do thatwhen most companies that are as strong as Yahoo once was don't go down with out a fight like this took place strange and things that just make you go HUMMMMMM! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN IS WHAT I THINK.


GOOGLE IS BEING TOLD WHAT THE GOV'T WANTS THEM TO DO WHEN THEY FOIND THERE IS SITES THAT ARE A PROBLEM AND THEY DO IT AS TOLD TO BECAUSE OF SOME KINDA BACK ROOM DEAL THAT GOT THEM TO THE TOP AS THEY DID SO FAST AND WITHOUT ANY FIGHT OUT OF THE REST OF THE COMPANIES OUT THERE. THAT S HOW i SEE IT AND AS CLOSE TO THE REAL DEAL THEN ANYTHING i WOULD BE.

EVEN WITH OUT THE HOLE UNDERCOVER CRAP THE FACT i DO NO IT GOOGLE WASBLOCKING LOST OF MY SEARCHES AT THE START OF THIS YEAR AND THEY DID IT IN A WAY AS TO NOT TRY AND LOOK AS IF THEY WERE BY POSTING JUST AS MANY HIT RESULT BUT WHEN YOU CKLICKKED ON THEM YOU WENT SOME WHERE COMPLETELY WRONG AND NOT WHAT WAS THE TITLE ADDERESS THAT WAS POSTED.

nOW YOU WATCH IF THIS EVER DOSE GET OUT i BET GOOGLE WILLL JUST SAY IT WAS SOME KINDA GLICH OR SHIT LIKE THAT.

GLITCH MY ASS!

i WENT TO YAHOO AND A FEW OTHER SEARCH RENG, AND DID THE SAME SEARCG AND FOUND OUT WHAT ? RIGHT THAT THEY GAVE ME THE RESULT THAT WENT TO THE SITE IT SAID IT WAS .


sO WHAT AM I SAYING HERE IS THAT I DON'T NO WHY THEIR UP TO CHNGEING ALL OF THE SIGN IN CRAP BUT ITS AN PAIN IN THE ASS AND MAKING A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT GET POSTED RIGHT NOW AND FOR THE PAST WEEK . WHY WOULD A COMPANY DO THAT WHEN THEY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING BACK ?
WHY WOULD THEY MAKE IT SO IT WAS SO HARD OR EVEN WORSE WHEN I FIRST CLICKED TO GET SIGNED ON WHEN IT SENT ME TO THE OTHER PAGE I LOST MY WHOLE POST AND YOU ALL KNOEW HOW LONG MY POST ARE NOW DON'T YOU ?

SO THAT NEVER GOT POSTED AND I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS EVER SEEN IT WOULD LOOK AS I'LL END WITH THIS THE PROGRAMS CALEED eARTHLINK , NETSCAPE AND GOOGLES, AOL , ARE ALL PROGRAMS THAT HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT SCREW UP MY COMPUTERS IN THE PAST AND MADE FOR ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS . tHE FACT IS DO TO THEIR OPPERATIONS THE THING THAT SHOW UP AS RETURNS OR ERROR OR THAT DON'T GO TO WHERE THEY ARE SAY OR JUST ACT AS IF THEY ARE BUT KEEP YOU FROM THEM OR ACT AS IF YOU ARE ONLINE AND ALL THAT WITH A FEW PAGES BUT IN THE REAL DEALL YOU ARE NOT.


i AM STARTING TO HAVE THE SAME THING GO WRONG THAT WERE A PROBLEM BACK YEARS AGO WHEN i HAD EARTHLINK AND JUST A FEW MONTHGS AGO WHO BOUGHT OUT MY ip BUT NO LESS OTHER THAN NETSCAPE THE SAME DEAL THAT EARTHLINK USED AND LOOK WHAT NOW I'M GETTING THE SAME AND EVEN WORSE PROBLEM THAT START SLOWLY THEN GET BAD THE FACT IS IT WAS SO BAD LAST TIME AN BEINGNEW AT THE TIME IN COMPUTERS THE MESSAGES THAT WERE COMING UP MADE MY COMPUTER LOOK LIKE IT WAS THE PROBLEM SO MUCH SO WHEN MY WIFE CALL CUSTOMER SERVIES AT EARTHLINK THEY WERE WORKING WITH HER AND TOLD HER TO RESET ALL THESE THING IN OUR COMPUTER THAT MADE IT SO BAD I ENDED UP JUST SHITCANNING IT AFFER SO MUCH TIME. NO BUG FROM THE NET JUST EARTH LINK CAUSE AFTER SOME YEARS I WENT BACK TO THAT SAME COMPUTER AND WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THEM PUT IT BACK ONLINE LOADED A DIFFERENT ip AND LET ME TELL YOU LIKE DAY AND NIGHT HOW ELL IT WORK THEN BUT TO THIS DAY WITHOUT FORMATTING THE SYSTEM AND LOSSING EVERTHING i STILL CANT GET THE DAM EARTHLINK PROGRAM OUT OF THAT COMPUTER IT IS LOCK ON IN SO MANY AREAS THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT AND THEY CANT HELP DO IT EITHER AND SAY THEY DON'T NO WHY IT IS LIKE THAT.
YA OK SURE .

yOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE DAEL IS NO THE REAL DEAL AND NOT BEFORE THE TRIAN HITS YOU AND IT IS TO LAT TO CHANGE IT FROM THE DAMAGE IT WILL DO OR THE WHAT EVER ITR IIS AFTER FROM YOU IS DONE .

SO WHATS GOOGLE WANT OR ARE THEY JUST FISHING

WHY AR ETHEY DOING THING BEHIND THE PICTURE INSTEAD OF JUST SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO LIST THINGS LIKE ONLINE PHARMACIES THAT ARE NOT LISTED THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF VERIOFIED AND FOLLOWING OUR RULES FOR THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE LIC. AND DOING BUSINESS EVEN THOUGH THE LAW STATES THATTHEY ARE LEGAL NOW.?

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND LET THE REAL STORY OUT INSTAED OF TRYING TO HIDE IT BY GIVEING ALL THESE B.S RESULTS AND ACTING AS IF THEY ARE NOT TRYINGTO CENCER YOU WITH THE AMOUT OF RETURNS ON YOUR SEARCHES

I THOUGHT THE NET WAS FREE TO SEARCH AND FIND ALL OFF THE LISTED SITES THAT WERE OUT THERE NOT JUST THE ONES THAT SOME ONE WANTS YOU TO BARRING THE FACT THAT YOU PAY TO BE ON TOP THAST A GIVEN BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE FIRST PAGES AND THEN YOU CAN'T GET TO TAHT SITE BCAUSE OF THE COMPANY BLOCKING YOU AND MAKING YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS BIG DEAL TO BE LISTED AND SEEN WHEN YOUR RUNNING A SITE THAT IS QUOT UN QUOT PERFECTLY LEGAL BY ANY MEASURE OF THE LAW.

WHO THE FUCK DO THEY RTHINK THEY ARE .. OH NEVER MIND THE FEDS JUST PULLED UP IN MY DRIVEWAY I SHOULD HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUSESTION SOONER THEN YOU ALL CAN GET IT TO ME

BY B!!!
HOPE TO SEE YOU LATER

mogel said...

Reality said: "So I deserved to loose my house on this "proven process" Tell that to my wife and kids, dickwad"
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No one said, you DESERVED to lose your house simply because you participated in the Dorean Process. That's your own victim mentality speaking!!! Maybe you should STHU yourself, because you are continuing to say things that aren't 100% true or even fair.

How compassionate is it of you to place blame unfairly? Did I tell you to shut up first? No, that would be you!!! How compassionate is that?

If you can't bother to justify your position, WITHOUT getting your feathers ruffled a bit, don't even bother to attempt to criticize or judge.

The fact that you are angered by what others say, shows that you do care, no matter how much you want to mask that lie too. People that don't care, brush things off without getting angry & without cussing.

Not buying that your Broker was unable to be contacted. Now if anyone believes that, then, they truly are stupid. Maybe there's more to the story than you are telling? Did you alienate yourself from your Broker by your own actions or words?

When you tell people you don't even know to shut the hell up, it makes people wonder? Maybe you are just naturally abraisive? I can't say for certain because I don't know you. Don't pretend to know me, let alone the Principals of the Dorean Group.

By the way, there are homes on Ebay that don't need fixed up that can be bought real cheap in the parameters I said previously & are ready to be moved into immediately. I'm bidding on one TODAY myself. Send me your email address, & I'll send you pictures of it. Maybe I'll even be the high bidder, who knows? Pictures don't lie!!!! By the way, it has at least 2400 square feet; maybe even more room than that because the County records don't always include extra square footage that was added onto & it's 4 bedrooms, not the 2 bedrooms you seem to think that should be a fixer upper. I figure it has at least $50,000 equity in it. It's a "no brainer" to bid on. I never suggested that you should move into a hovel. Again, that was your own interpretation of what I DIDN'T SAY.

As far as "the proven process", it was proven. The process was proven time again every time to take away title from the lender. That proof was recorded in the county records. Now the prosecution is attempting to show taking of legal title to be fraud. Has that been done yet? No it has not. How compassionate is it to speak before something becomes FACTUAL? Isn't the act of doing such a thing very presumptuos? How compassionate is it to be presumptous? I suppose you would know since you made "compassion" your subject expertise area of knowlege by opening your mouth & judging.

GYHOOYA said...

realitycheck said...
HEY fuddpucker. I did not say I was part of the first batch of non-broker victims now did I. FLEA was my broker asswipe. So no contradiction there, O.K. buddy?
How compassionate of you.Are you one of the so called "Christians" that like to twist Scripture to fit your needs? Or are you one of the conspiracy whack-o's that beleive all of SOP's rants?
So I deserved to loose my house on this "proven process" Tell that to my wife and kids, dickwad

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I must say that I agree with Hab on this and you are hust here to stir things up. Buy Let's play your game for second OK ?

KNow I know that this is mostly a waste of time because you are someone that is beyonud any hope of thinking or changing the way your mind is set for what ever reason that may be I could list many that I think but you know what you are and why you are oposting under a new name is either due to the resent Googles-Gov't ties Blog screwing or your just to much ashamed to post under your reg. because you have been told the facts of life before and can't understand them so you need to be told again.

One more thing before I do ask you just a couple of questions that should be easy for you to answer with some kind of 'real' common sence answer and not with just the rants of a colorfull mouth and bulshit. So if you feel the need to run your mouth to me with words like fuck asshole and the like go right aheade and do so but thats easy to do for anyone if that s all you have to say then go for it my twistwed little man!

Or you could offer some real debate to your delema and maybe hear some real feed back . That is if you can TAKE IT I doubt it but will give it a go . right then here we go


If you were a client from the start or begeining group somewherebefore the end but not the first person then when you were told to stop paying what did you do with thwmoney that you had been paying up till then?

My thought is that anyone with half a mind would be putting it away just in case this hole 'NEVER DONE BEFORE THING BLOW UP' so they would be prepared to keep their house and there by the family could stay.

aAgain this assumes that you wer'nt behind on payments or about to be out of money in the first place.

1.)SO WHAT DID YOU DO WUITH THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING TOWARDS YOUR HOUSE PAYMENT WHEN YOU STOPED PAYING IT TO YOUR MORTGAGE COMPANY?

That's an easy question for you to answer right ?


2.) If yourproblem as for not getting a hold of anyone after the stated shit hit the fan and you said you were one of the first group I would ask when was it that you tried to get someone what dates and such because I was one of the people that was the last to get into this and was still able to get in touch with Le Compte and a feww others , Now I'll say it was'nt as easy as at the start but this was well after the 2Nd conference and the FBI raids so when were you having a problem.

Oh and about you having some one to buy your house that ran when they saw all the bull tied to it I have to wonder when that was to as in the dates and all

sothose two question would be this

here all just make a list and you can work off that i think i have stated my disbeleif for your side already but if you need anythiong you just sak OK


One morething before I give the list is
If you plan to post back with the same old crap like "Idon't care if you or Kafoya or mog, don't want to believe me"
You go right ahead and do so but the fact is if you have know good rael answers to these simple question I list here then your story must not be true .

That would be by anyones mind or actions facts If someone tellss you something that has nothing of any real backing to it and they can not themselfs give any linda answers or facts to say why something in their story is not seeming to be right then again the story must not be true or they are one bad lier because even a lier can keep some b.s. going with false info for awhile before it breaks up.

so here you go and these are easy and to the point questions to answer and should be understood by you without any effort. I n fact I'll right them so the kid could understand them and give a reasonable strieght answer without getting off the track withother thing and insults ort the like to keep from doing so.

1) what did you do with the money you were paying your mortgage with after you were told to stop paying it?

2)If you were one of the client at the start of this and were told to stop paying what were the dates (about or around the time)

3) When you were not paying your payment what were you doing to keep on top of what was being done with regards to this process?


4) when you said you had a buyer for your house that ran away because of the problems what were the dates that happened and why did the run ie: the Trust,Price, Area, FBI, ect.?
and year this happened.

5)If you got into this and were of the mind to think with some real understanding of life and how things work then why didn't you just repay your payment arrears or back missed payment when the trouble started?
6) Why is it that there were many who could get in touch with the people that were in charge even after the problems statred and you could not what did you try in your efforts to do this?

7) If you lost your home do to this process and what you were told and beleived out right how exactly did that hole process go? Did'nt you get the normal 3 months till they notified you and recorded the default and intent of sale and some more time after that. Was'nt there at least 6 mouths of time between that and any real action?

8) if you had 6mouths or so time and as you stated you have a big family and such why did'nt you all pitch in and get the needed money to save it?

9) assuming the fam. was to little to help i have to ask why did'nt you get a new loan like a second or third or hard money to at least give you more time or was the house already mortgaged out past any real EQ to gain from you trying to stay afloat?

10) What made you go looking for this kinda process any way or how did you find this process and get in it at the start?

If all you say is the truth and the way you say it then there has to be more to it because the statements you have posted up till now don't add up. there is either missing info or something that you not telling. what is the full real story and ifd you could please post it with out the added distain comments so that it is clear and with a time line.

Now that said with out any offer of further information from you and going by what I haveread so far I would have to think this .

You were in bad shape when it came to your house payment to start with you might have been upto date but I would bet that was only do to the fact that you had the house already mortgagaed out as far as you could and had gone through that money and were about to run out in fact the money you spent on the Dorean process was more than lokly some of the last money you had and the joining was just the last effor you had to save your house. I think that there was no money to save after you stopped paying your payment because you had none to start with and this was your last hope .


The facts of what you have said so far don't add uup to much more that some one like many who went looking for something to help them out of the spot they were in . Now how you got to that point would be something I would like to hear was it you lost yopu job giot hurt or something prior and you were refinacingb to try and keep up with the payment and bill andf were taken by some Broker and lenders out there ? I would berleive that before the story so far

The fact is that thousansds of people got into this and there are thousand across the country that have had the banks and brokers and lenders all take them for most of their worth by their greedy and back room kickback filled loans that were only for one thing to keep you coming back for more and to rip you off of all your EQ

the system is still letting this go on and there are people lossing their ho,me s do to the fact that so many Brokers aggents across this country are let to do work that they do without a good real knowledge of the industryand the pit falls and just like if you have someone work on your car and they tell you it the fuel pump that needs to be replaced but latter after they start find out they were wrong but just charged you a lorge amout and paid to get the part they are not going to tell you that it was the key and a bad trandsponde in it that was the real problem your car would'nt star. they are going top cover it upo and tell you sopme other thing needs to be re[placed now that is the real deal that takes place every day.

You see the News every once and awhile get out and do a sting to show this.

Why hav'nt we seen the same in the lending buzzz ?

the way I see it what you my freind should be doing is to swallow your pride and stand upo and admitt that theproblem was'nt Dorean and what they said it was that you were out of money and had no way to save it the fact that you were out of money was more than likly do to the underhaded way you had been taken by the banks and broker for you EQ in the home and I bet that is more the case than anything ele

mogel said...

Reality Check said: "Are you one of the so called "Christians" that like to twist Scripture to fit your needs? Or are you one of the conspiracy whack-o's that beleive all of SOP's rants?"
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So I take it from your question, those are the only two possibilities your feeble mind could come up with? :o)

Maybe you should consider the field of journalistic reporting as a profession. The press needs more people like you.

mogel said...

I Corinthians 13: 2-11

"and though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, AND HAVE NOT CHARITY, I AM NOTHING."

Reality check: Let's assume that you are entirely correct on EVERYTHING YOU SAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECTS YOU SPEAK, just for conversation purposes. If you lack charity or compassion, doesn't that sum everything up about what you say regardless of all your knowledge? Could it be that everything you say is ABOUT NOTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING OF RELEVANCE TO SAY?

Tell me, I only ask these questions because you are the professed authority on this subject of compassion & charity, for what judgment we judge, we shall also be judged. Is this not just? Here are the questions for you to honestly answer in order to seek the real truth:

(1) How charitable is it to swear?

(2) How charitable is it to tell someone to shut the hell up?

(3) How charitable or compassionate is it to not be able to suffer your trials long enough or well enough?

(4) How charitable is it to be easily provoked?

(5) How charitable is it to behave unseemly by placing blame on everyone except yourself & your lack of foresight?

(6) How charitable is it to rejoice in inquity? The inquity being of judging unrighteously?

(7) How charitable or compassionate is it to NOT believe in all things, specifically not believeing the Dorean Process will prevail in the end.

(8) How compassionate is it to not accept your burdens and bear them well & without complaint or injury?

(9) How compassionate or charitable is it to have no hope whatsoever in the Dorean Process?

(10) How compassionate is it to rejoice in a lie believing the process to be a scam now when you knew it wasn't in the beginning when you joined?

(11) How compassionate is it to believe that you have failed because you have been cheated? Does charity ever fail?

(12) How charitable is it to not be able to "endure to the end". Is Dorean over with? Has Kurt & Scott quit or given up? Are you in jail suffering for 2 years without your family, yet you choose to judge them & their intentions?

(13) How charitable is it to rejoice and proclaim lies?

(14) How charitable is it to seek your own needs & seek out your own problems through complaining as if you are a victim? Does charity or compassion seek after their own needs or complain of their plight?

(15) How charitable is it to think evil of someone else?

(16) How compassionate is it to be as "rash" as you are using terms of "Scamman", "Robbin", and "Dr. Dred"?

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

How about you, reality check? What childish things have you put away in your Dorean experience?

You expect compassion, but throw out harsh judgments & show no compassion whatsoever!!! Why is that? Maybe in a strange way there is justice after all? Course, I don't know. I'll leave that to greater minds and purer minds than my own to decide and judge.

pebbles said...

I was also involved with the Dorean group and Mission finance, So in my case a "double wammy" in other words they sucked me dry. The same company Kurt had his account.
Suprisingly he ended up with 3 million in his account and me with nothing. According to Douglas Cameron, one of the manager of that bank, my money got lost in Japan BS. I heard rummors about Kurt being partners with this dude. Therefore the money in Kurt's account belongs to me,and a bunch of his fiends that he got also involved.
For now my question is does anybody know who is filing a legal action against the Dorean group. Also how do I get the title of my home back in my name